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October 2

07:41, 2 October 2024 review of submission by Sargimaanmusic

Sargimaanmusic (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Sargi Maan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

submitted links of All Songs of Sargi Maan through times of india and You tube links of respective channels on which songs are released

kindly guide what reliable source can be added to verify the page Sargimaanmusic (talk) 07:41, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You declared a conflict of interest, if you work for her, you are required by the Terms of Use to make the stricter paid editing disclosure.

You misunderstand what a Wikipedia article about a musician should do. It should summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable musician. We don't want just documentation of her work, but independent sources discussing her.

YouTube is not generally a reliable source as it lacks editorial oversight and is user-editable- unless the video is from a reputable news outlet on its verified channel. The Times of India is generally not considered a reliable source.

The awards do not contribute to notability as the awards themselves do not seem to have articles(like Grammy Award or Nobel Peace Prize). 331dot (talk) 07:47, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Read WP:42; it could be helpful when looking for sources. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 12:14, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

09:22, 2 October 2024 review of submission by Jooliah

Jooliah (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Adam Hunter (interior designer) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, is there anyway I can improve this submission for approval? Jooliah (talk) 09:22, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Jooliah, you may read HELP:YFA and WP:42. Keep asking questions, and keep improving the draft, that way, you may appeal to the rejecting reviewer to consider. Cheers! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 12:12, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

09:39, 2 October 2024 review of submission by Kavanihelper

Kavanihelper (talk · contribs)
- User:Kavanihelper/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This is my first article. I am a young researcher who loves to research about Indian Football. I would request wiki admins to kindly help me to publish my research page and suggest improvements if any. I am ready to answer all the questions! Kavanihelper (talk) 09:39, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Kavanihelper Some of the best help I can give you is to ask you to note the comment by SafariScribe when they declined it. They asked "What's the purpose of this compilation?" and I agree with them. You have worked hard, but without purpose, without the end result in mind.

Please answer for yourself their question and you will have a clearer idea how to edit this.

By the way, admins are here by coincidence, but their primary role is to clear up the messes the rest of us leave behind. They are janitors more than anything else. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:06, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

10:05, 2 October 2024 review of submission by Annaleshiapillay01

Annaleshiapillay01 (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Mama Money South Africa (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Please can I get my article reviewed I have added citations to my article. Thanks Annaleshiapillay01 (talk) 10:05, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a "resubmit" button to get your draft re-reviewed. But it is pretty clear, first that you have written the draft WP:BACKWARDS, and secondly (just from the titles - I haven't looked at the sources themselves) that the citations you have added are not enough to establish notability, as they are mostly either interviews or routine business coverage.

Where have independent commentators written in depth about the company? ColinFine (talk) 10:58, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Annaleshiapillay01 I have left a comment on the draft. It tells you that it woudl be declined if it were reviewed today. It suggests further work. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:17, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

15:01, 2 October 2024 review of submission by Karinvanderlaag

ACCEPTED

This discussion has led to the editing and acceptance of the draft. No further action required 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 17:55, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Karinvanderlaag (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Karin van der Laag (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Draft:Karin van der Laag was originally published in another language called Hasha. I can't seem to access the original page in English as I would like someone to work on it and re-instate it in English. I have many more sources than the original article that appeared. Karinvanderlaag (talk) 15:01, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Karinvanderlaag There are some difficulties you will face, especially since any new work by you will be an autobiography. The first and most important is that almost no-one is able to write a neutral draft about themselves. This means that any reviews that decline the draft will have a personal effect on you. It will feel as if you are being attacked. You will not be attacked, but the feeling will be there.

The next, of at least equal importance, is the finding of references which meet the English Language Wikipedia's very strict criteria.

Most people write WP:BACKWARDS, starting with what they wish to say, especially about themselves, and finding references which are not a good fit. Do the reverse. Start with excellent references, see what can be said and sort the references into a storyboard. Then, write in your own words what others say about you in those references.

Know in advance that others who review the draft may disagree with you. You and I have too much history for me to review your putative draft, so I will not do so.

It may be possible to translate the Hausa article. Please do not use machine translation. If you do translate it please deploy {{Translated page}} on the draft's talk page with parameters filled in to the best of your ability. Please be very clear that the Hausa Wikipedia may have substantially less strict criteria for acceptance.

"Many more sources" may not be useful. A few excellent sources are better than any number of poor ones. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:05, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please will a reviewer here who has not been party to prior discussions with the creating editor offer her advice, especially if it differs from mine. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:38, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think you've about covered anything anyone else would have to say. -- asilvering (talk) 21:06, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was hoping so. While we can't provide a full manual in the creation of articles on this help desk, especially autobiographies, we have not always advised Karinvanderlaag as well as we might have done, and have caused her annoyance. I want to seek to ensure that we are doing the best for her that we are able to do, the more so since we are now out of the two areas where she has been a (declared) paid editor. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 05:24, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

15:40, 2 October 2024 review of submission by 128.235.159.4

128.235.159.4 (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Fahad Akhtar (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

My submission for this page was decline. I was looking for more information to fix the errors before resubmitting. 128.235.159.4 (talk) 15:40, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is no indication in the draft that the person is notable according to Wikipedia's definition. In addition to that, all the references point to his own website. As the decline notice explains, sources must be independent and secondary in order to show notability. And looking at the "Personal Life" section I'm not even sure if it is supposed to be a serious attempt at writing an article. --bonadea contributions talk 17:08, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

17:59, 2 October 2024 review of submission by Amanatadverse17

Amanatadverse17 (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Ashish Chanchlani (youtuber) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Subject: Request for Help Regarding Rejected Draft of "Ashish Chanchlani"

Message: Hello,

I recently worked on creating a draft for the article on Ashish Chanchlani, and after putting in significant time and effort, the draft was rejected despite my attempts to modify it properly. I understand that one of the reasons for rejection might be related to notability, but I firmly believe that Ashish Chanchlani is notable enough to warrant a Wikipedia page, given his prominence in the digital content space.

I would really appreciate it if an experienced editor could help me understand what specific improvements are needed to make the article meet Wikipedia's notability standards and guidelines. I have added sources, but there might be gaps or areas I did not cover adequately.

Additionally, I would be grateful if, after the necessary improvements are made, the draft could be restored from the rejected status and moved to the main article space.

Your guidance will be very helpful for me to get this article accepted, as I strongly believe it deserves to be part of Wikipedia.

Thank you so much for your time and assistance.

Amanatadverse17 (talk) 17:59, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid no amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability, and Wikipedia's definition of notability is completely unrelated to popularity. There have been several exhaustive discussions about Chanchlani's notability, and the current draft doesn't show any indication that he has become notable since the most recent discussion a couple of years ago. --bonadea contributions talk 18:19, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And even if the rejection were reversed, the article can't be created except by an administrator, because the title has been fully protected after years of relentless attempts to use Wikipedia as a promotional platform by Chanchlani's marketing people. That kind of full protection is not put in place very frequently. --bonadea contributions talk 18:22, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Amanatadverse17, I know it seems strange that wikipedia doesn't think a youtuber with millions and millions of subscribers is notable, but the only thing we really care about is WP:42. The last discussion was in 2021, so he may have become notable since then, but you'll have to show that with high-quality sources that postdate 2021. -- asilvering (talk) 21:05, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

20:30, 2 October 2024 review of submission by EnochRoot1969

EnochRoot1969 (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Jesus Chrysler Supercar (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I am not quite sure how to improve the citations (which I am given to understand are problematic and preventing the article from being published.) I am not sure if it the formatting of the citations or the nature/source of the citations themselves or a mixture of both. Any assistance or direction would be very helpful and appreciated. EnochRoot1969 (talk) 20:30, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@EnochRoot1969, it will really, really help the reviewers if you can provide URLs to the newspaper articles you're citing. If you can't do that, because you accessed the newspapers offline, please at least give us enough information to be able to find the relevant article - the title, the date, and the page. -- asilvering (talk) 21:02, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

20:36, 2 October 2024 review of submission by Amirziaow

Amirziaow (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Milad Bagherifard (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

om i want know how i can edit this draft for publish Amirziaow (talk) 20:36, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry @Amirziaow, this is a resume/CV, and is not suitable for wikipedia. My advice is to abandon the effort and work on something else. -- asilvering (talk) 20:59, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Amirziaow press Edit on the top right of the draft to edit it. Press “Resubmit” at the end of the red box at the top of the draft to submit for publishing, but only after the issues are fixed or it will just be declined again. — Karnataka 20:59, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 16:26, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

21:09, 2 October 2024 review of submission by 71.167.113.184

71.167.113.184 (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Venhue (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

HI, how do I make this wiki compliant? Would love to document restaurants in the East Village of Manhattan. Citations provided. 71.167.113.184 (talk) 21:09, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rejection typically means that resubmission is not possible. 331dot (talk) 21:26, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]