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Sadads- I have no issue with your edits but I had a question for you. I saw that 22 days ago you edited the page "The Mind's Eye (radio company)" There are no external links nor references on this page. I am really interested in learning more about these productions and seeing if I could attain copies of them. I grew up listening to them on cassette tape and really miss them. I was hoping perhaps you had some info. Thanks, Leon — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.248.247.237 (talk) 05:37, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Copyright question (3d object images)

Hello Sadads, I have a question and I was wondering if you have any idea about the following: I would like to upload some images with 3D objects (coins and engraved gems) that belong to the Cornell University Library (CUL). I read that I have to specify the copyright of the objects which are in public domain, using PD-Old tags and with a second copyright license for the photographer and the description, using creative commons. Do I need to archive this permission in the Wikimedia OTRS system? If yes, should I submit a letter of permission from CUL and send it to the OTRS team? Do you know where I could find a sample such a letter? I found a sample letter at https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Model_projects/OTRS_letter. Would this letter work? Or should we start a GLAM-project first? Thank you very much in advance.EVDiam (talk) 18:39, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

@EVDiam: Hi: 3D objects need to be release by the copyright holder of the images, because in the United States: only copies of 2D Public domain items automatically get released into the Public Domain. The Standard OTRS letter should work well: I would strongly recommend consulting with other people in your team, to figure out what license that you would like the images released under (Wikipedia can't do a "one time" use permission, it needs to be either a) public domain or b) a free license like CC-BY-SA). I would recommend CC-BY-SA, in that it requires other people to share the image under the same license and give credit to the CUL libraries. If your team likes the experimental release of the first couple images, it might be worth identifying the whole set of images on your Library's website as under a free license- so that its not only Wikipedia that benefits, but researchers and members of the public that stumble across the collection in its original context, Sadads (talk) 15:30, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

@Sadads:Hello Sadads, Thank you very much for your useful comments. I will definitely discuss this with the interested parties. Again, I really appreciate for taking the time to answer me. I look forward to future exchanges. EVDiam (talk) 01:34, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Template red links

Hi. I don't think it's canvassing to let you know about this discussion involving red links in templates, since you were the editor who was in at the start of the discussion, which has now gotten quite large on another page. Randy Kryn 21:49, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Ticktock Reassessment

Thanks for your prompt reassessment. I tend to agree with your comments, esp. plot summary too long, but I was reluctant to prune someone's hard work. I think the original Importance of "mid" was justified as the work is out-of-genre for Koontz, but I bow to your broader experience. Mainly I wanted to upgrade it from Stub to Start & I see that is done - thank you. Would you agree that the plot summary should be redacted? D A Patriarche, BSc (talk) (talk) 20:03, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

@D A Patriarche: Yep, plot summary definitely needs a good trim, lots of small and unnecessary details, and very poor writing. Sadads (talk) 20:28, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Wanted to ask why an article is not under WikiProject Novels's scope

Hi, I was wondering why you removed the tags stating Carter Kane is of interest to WikiProject Novels and the fantasy and Percy Jackson task forces. As far as I can tell, it is probably under the scope of the parent project (Novels), and it is most definitely under the Percy Jackson task-force's. Seems to be a similar case with the article Percy Jackson; both are about a fictional character in a children's fantasy series by author Rick Riordan -- and yet Percy Jackson is under the project's scope and Carter Kane is not. Thanks in advance. 2ReinreB2 (talk) 17:14, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

@2ReinreB2: Sorry that was a silly mistake (I was moving through the articles quickly). Normally fictional characters woudn't be in scope, except we have a task force :P I have made a similar mistake once or twice before with Harry Potter actor articles. Sadads (talk) 01:18, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing it up! Good to know about fictional characters though, I'll be sure to keep that in mind when I'm classifying things. 2ReinreB2 (talk) 02:15, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

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List of Breweries in Vermont

Hi--

I wanted to touch base with you about some recent edits to the List of breweries in Vermont. There are a few of us who regularly curate the beer-related pages, and any extra help is appreciated. We've tried to be pretty diligent about keeping unsourced redlinks out of these "List of beers" pages [ie. WP:ListBrew. That one, in particular, has a pretty large number of redlinks. In your editing note you noted that it was "fine." I wasn't too clear on what that meant in the context of a page full of redlinks. Any clarification is appreciated. Prof. Mc (talk) 22:35, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

@Prof. Mc: Sorry for taking so long to respond, I have been running around doing other work: the list of breweries had been removed from the article wholesale during an earlier revision of the article; the list was source (tied to the index created by the Vermont Brewers Association), and didn't have any oddball items listed on it. I will be happy to help more around New England and Kansas breweries, after I finish up a few more other projects: I am working on meta:100wikidays, and just settling in after a move to Vermont. I will probably be filling in a number of those redlinks in the process, of #100wikidays, Sadads (talk) 23:32, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

@Sadads: No worries about response time. I completely understand. Yeah, I had removed the redlinks, though not the entire list. In genera we try to remove unsourced redlinks and unsourced breweries--otherwise the lists would be overrun with non-notable breweries. The various state Brewers' Association webpages aren't usually sources that are OK, since the state Brewers Associations will list anyone who pays a fee, not necessarily a notable brewery. But, if you're going to work on those and add some news sources at some point in the near future, I won't do any culling--I'm glad to have as many breweries listed as we can verify as notable. Thanks for the reply, and thanks for working on these. Prof. Mc (talk) 12:51, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Hiding in Plain Sight

I got carried away. At any rate, I din't realize that the NPR source would have sufficed: "as close as Basra was to me, falling victim to terrorism". The same article is found here plus the transcript of the interview.

Would this suit you?

• ... that novelist Nuruddin Farah's sister died in a terrorist attack, similar to how a character dies in his then newly finished novel Hiding in Plain Sight?

I guess this was your intention of using "newly finished".

--Efe (talk) 11:02, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

@Efe: Responded in the nom, but yes that is closer to my intention! Thanks for the energy, I always appreciate when others come through and do work on my articles :) I have been on a push recently to work on African literature, so I always find it interesting to see if other editors will come along and help: we are sorely undercovered in that area, and their is not a huge editor base looking at the overlap of literature and Africa due to WP:Systematic bias. Sadads (talk) 13:42, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Most welcome sir. --Efe (talk) 13:46, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Dragon Boy reviews

I sent you an email with the reviews of Dragon Boy. Fearstreetsaga (talk) 16:26, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

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Ant and Grasshopper

Dear Saddad, Since you have a literary focus, I ought not to have to point out to you that adding material unsanctioned by an [original text http://mythfolklore.net/aesopica/perry/373.htm] counts as OR. I italicize the redundant words in your suggested revision that come from your personal reconstruction of the fable: "grasshopper carelessly enjoying a warm summer, not preparing for the impending cold winter, while an ant works tirelessly to prepare for winter." The Greek original starts in the actual winter with the grasshopper begging from the ant and that is where all comment should begin. I hope you'll appreciate where I'm coming from now.

It was not a good idea to delete my new online direction to the text, rather than to a printed edition that few have by them to check. And since I also added that my later revision included putting right faulty grammar, you should not have reverted wholesale. I think you are not crediting me with good faith and are turning this into a contest. Mzilikazi1939 (talk) 15:20, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

@Mzilikazi1939: There are a number of problems with the assumptions that come with you revisions:

1. its a fable, and has taken on a narrative of its own as its been shared across the cultu: the summary of how the story is experienced across all tellings, is more important in the lead, than the "sanctioned" version. Authority does not lie in original texts: but rather in their cultural legacy
2. Descriptive redundancy of language is good in these cases, because it emphasizes the framework of the moral of the story.
3. You talk about authority, but point to a version with no editorial control, and no clear authority (the website doesn't document permission for taking the translations, nor does it have very clear sourcing: its a clearly commercial site promoting sales of books via Amazon). The textual work, on the other hand, is coming with the authority of OUP's editorial standards . Thats not to say the mythfolklore link shouldn't be in the external links, but it most certainly should not be a citation.

I am going to revert your change: please move disagreements to the articles' talk page, so that its not just a two person conversation, Sadads (talk) 16:36, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

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Suspension bridge

Please don't add images of non-suspension bridges to an article on suspension bridges (and which has too many, too small, images already). Andy Dingley (talk) 00:16, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

@Andy Dingley: 1) there is not too many images, the history section is almost barren: and media is a big part of making articles engageable, 2) chain bridges are a type of supension bridge according to the very article you are referring, and 3) the very same bridge is mentioned in the article. Your reaction to the images appears very trigger happy; please take a bit more time to reflect before removing images. Sadads (talk) 12:34, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

There are many, many images of chain bridges to be had. The one you added is an unrealistic representation of Telford's Menai bridge, some years before the bridge was built. Whether by being based on an early draught, or (far more likely) by having been inaccurately copied from Telford's drawing, the version shown here is technically nonsense. There is no strength to the supporting towers, the chain anchorages are in the wrong place. A bridge like this could never stand (and it's certainly not a representation of Telford's bridge). An encyclopedia should not propagate unrealistic images like this in an article on the main technology.

The second image you've been restoring isn't even a suspension bridge. There are two adjacent bridges at Conway (at this time), this is Stephenson's tubular bridge, not the suspension bridge. Also it's part of a gallery of far too small images. Andy Dingley (talk) 13:13, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

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Your interest in peer reviews

Hi Sadads; Your user page indicates your interest in literature articles. The GAR at Auden has been open for just over one full month now, and there appear to be no editors coming forward to support the top editor there or the old 2009 assessment. I did list it at all of the WikiProjects listed on its Talk page. Could you close out the GAR for Auden as you see best for the article. MusicAngels (talk) 19:51, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

@MusicAngels: Thanks for reaching out, I did a pass, and SilkTork's review seems to do a very good job at highlighting the main points: we will see if there is any more work on it, I would hate to see such a conversation cut off early. Sorry for the delayed response :) Sadads (talk) 13:41, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

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template: cite archive?

Hi Sadads, at Wikiconference I believe you said that people are working on a template for {{cite archive}}. I know someone who would love to work on that. Do you have any contacts? (Thanks again for all that you did at the conference.) - kosboot (talk) 04:03, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

@Kosboot: you want to talk to @The Interior: who is leading the charge at Wikipedia:The_Wikipedia_Library/Archivists/Citation). We would love to find someone who can build the template, since it will need to interact with the Koha Citation standards. Sadads (talk) 17:38, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Sadads! - kosboot (talk) 19:09, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

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Recent assessments

Thank you for your recent assessments to these four articles -- Nine Yards of Other Cloth, The Doors of His Face, The Lamps of His Mouth, The Gold at the Starbow's End, and The Man Who Lost the Sea. All four were assessed as Start class, suggesting that you see some need for improvement. If referencing is your concern in these four articles, I'm interested in hearing your comments on the following observations.

First, if your concerns are about the unsourced plot summaries, it is my understanding that the work itself serves as the source for the summary (see WP:PLOTSUM#Citations and WP:FICTIONPLOT). I also note that the plot summary for The Sun Also Rises (a Featured Article) does not use sources in its plot summary. Two more Featured Articles (To Kill a Mockingbird and Pattern Recognition) do cite references, but only for exact quotes from the text.

Second, if your concerns are about the Publication History sections, I note that there is an in-text attribution of the source (see the final sentence of each section). I chose in-text attribution because there seems to be a general practice of including the ISFDB site as an external link in articles about science-fiction works, and I didn't want to duplicate the link with an in-line citation. But I have no strong objections to doing that. Alternately, the final sentences could be re-written to read "The foregoing was taken from the story's listing at ..."

Third, if your concern is about the failure to reference the various award nominations, I was under the impression that non-contentious material did not need to be referenced, especially given that the linked articles on each award contained that referencing. But I also believe that this is a minor point and it would be little trouble to duplicate the award articles' references in the instant article.

Of course, you might have concerns other than referencing. If so, I would greatly appreciate hearing about those, as well. Thank again for looking at these articles. NewYorkActuary (talk) 19:12, 18 October 2015 (UTC) NewYorkActuary (talk) 19:13, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

@NewYorkActuary: Actually, I have no concerns about the Plot summaries or the content currently in the articles. There are several elements of those articles, that prevent them from going beyond start class:

1. Referencing on content like the publishing history, critical elements, etc; even though non-controversal content, in theory, can go without referencing, you might as well footnote it to ensure that we have longterm WP:Verifiability, and lack of citations would prevent promotion to any of the reviewed classes.
2. The lack of various elements typical to most articles about fiction: thematic/stylistic notes from the reception; critical opinions by outside experts about the relative importance/quality of the articles. For more information about typical sections in these kinds of articles see Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Novels.
3. Without the above elements, there is not a well rounded real-world sense of the importance of these novels, so we don't know the "why" of their notability, beyond nominal importance created by the awards. As someone who is unaware of the stories and the author, they don't thoroughly help me understand the works as real-world cultural objects with legacies, rather than static "simply-published" works. This kind of breadth is hard to develop for short stories.

In general, their are very few short stories that have sufficient scholarly literature to become B/GA/FA, because of the relatively limited authoritative commentary about them: there are clearly things to understand/know about the works beyond their plot/publication history/awards, but there is no good way to verify that, so as individual story articles: they simply can't come up to snuff. That being said, some editors merge groups of articles about short stories, into thorough conversations about series of works, or an author's corpus, etc. The best way to figure out what the appropriate group is, is to look at the landscape of authoritative critical works which talk about the stories, author, etc.

I hope the feedback helps! Keep up the good work; I have written plenty of articles, which I would have a really hard time bringing up to sufficient breadth for B/GA/FA, but they still are important contributions to human knowledge. For instance, I don't think I would be able to push Whetstone Brook beyond start, without Extensive archival research, and creative use of public records. However, that doesn't mean you aren't providing an important contribution to public knowledge: its just recognizing that the best research on a topic, is sometimes hard to compile because of the nature of the topic or its scholarly community. Sadads (talk) 01:31, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the helpful response. I have some follow-up questions:
Prior to your assessments, I simply hadn't given much thought to the subject at all. I knew at the start that these short-story articles were never going to be Good or Featured articles, but that's as far as my thinking took me. Now that I've had occasion to look into the assessment criteria, I see that B-class is really what I ought to be shooting for. I agree that these articles are nowhere near B-class and, indeed, might never be. But I'd still like to try. It's clear to me that they all currently fail criterion B-2 for "obvious omissions", with the omissions being of the type you mentioned in your response (i.e., context, commentary, etc.). But my question here is -- do you see any of the other B-class criteria not being met here?
I noticed that, although you assessed all of these articles as "Low" importance for the Novels project, you did not make any assessments of importance for the Science Fiction project. Was that an oversight, or were you deferring to the SF project for those assessments? My feeling is that these stories truly are of "Low" importance under the broad scope of Novels, but that being nominated for prestigious science-fiction awards makes them of "Mid" importance to the science-fiction project. (Before typing this, I did a random check of novels that either won or made the short-list for the Pulitzer Prize and noted that, with only rare exceptions, these novels generally are granted "Mid" importance status by the Novels project.) Do you see any reason why I couldn't (or shouldn't) classify these as "Mid" importance for the SF project?
Two minor points. First, I noticed that you subsequently assessed another of my new articles (i.e., not one of the four listed above), but also noticed that you had not looked at a sixth one, Exploration Team. This last was not a new article, but an expansion of a stub. I'll go ahead and assess it as Start-class/Low-importance for the Novels project, because I don't see how you would have reached an assessment that was different than the other five. But if I'm wrong about that, please let me know. Second (and final!), thank you for the barnstar. However, I'm not much into self-promotion and will be removing it from my Talk page. I trust that you won't be offended by that. Please know that the good thoughts were appreciated.
I look forward to your response. Nothing here is urgent, so please feel free to answer at your convenience. Thanks again for the help. NewYorkActuary (talk) 20:40, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Mission for you

Your mission if you decide to accept it, Mr. Sadads, is to see if you can get The Mariner's Mirror added to the Taylor & Francis Arts & Humanities package. I really, really want online access as thumbing through bound issues is really pretty hit or miss.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:10, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

@Sturmvogel 66: Persuing as part of my official job :) We are going to ask for their Strategic Studies collection, which should provide a bundle of additionally useful sources. Astinson (WMF) (talk) 15:43, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

That would do quite nicely!--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:29, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 5

Newsletter • October 2015

Hello there! Happy to be writing this newsletter once more. This month:

We did it!

In July, we launched five pilot WikiProjects: WikiProjects Cannabis, Evolutionary Biology, Ghana, Hampshire, and Women's Health. We also use the new design, named "WPX UI," on WikiProject Women in Technology, Women in Red, WikiProject Occupational Safety and Health. We are currently looking for projects for the next round of testing. If you are interested, please sign up on the Pilots page.

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The work continues!

There is more work that needs to be done, so we have applied for a renewal of our grant. Comments on the proposal are welcome. We would like to improve what we have already started on the English Wikipedia and to also expand to Wikimedia Commons and Wikidata. Why those? Because they are multilingual projects and because there needs to be better coordination across Wikimedia projects. More details are available in the renewal proposal.

How can the Wikimedia Foundation support WikiProjects?

The Wikimedia Developer Summit will be held in San Francisco in January 2016. The recently established Community Tech team at the Wikimedia Foundation is interested in investigating what technical support they can provide for WikiProjects, i.e., support beyond just templates and bots. I have plenty of opinions myself, but I want to hear what you think. The session is being planned on Phabricator, the Wikimedia bug tracker. If you are not familiar with Phabricator, you can log in with your Wikipedia username and password through the "Login or Register: MediaWiki" button on the login page. Your feedback can help make editing Wikipedia a better experience.

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Thank you for the helpful hint!

Hey Sadad, I really to appreciate the warm welcome. I will make sure to sign from now on :). As of right now I don't have any questions. But I'm sure something will come up and I'm glad I have you here. Talk to you soon and happy editing!GregoryBenjamin (talk) 19:19, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

WP:ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:47, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

@Liz: Thanks Liz, don't have any strong feelings about that one, just the reasoning for the delete wasn't clear (since learned that individual was also a global block). Going to let the wall of text conversations work themselves out, Sadads (talk) 10:04, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

As you are uninterested in participating in these discussions, I will be re-deleting the articles. Please note my comment here. Poor judgement on your part. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:46, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

@NeilN: I have no problem with re-deleting the content, now that I am aware of the users' global block and other behavior issues. However, that is not because of poor judgement: that was never a reason communicated for the initial speedy, and speedy deletions are NOT for lack of sourcing, but for lack of notability or an egregious violation of another policy, and the article clearly demonstrates notability. Sadads (talk) 17:04, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

There was a clear reason provided for the speedy deletes. It even provided you with a link to the user's page where you would have seen the global ban, "Consistent with the Terms of Use, Leucosticte has been banned by the Wikimedia Foundation from editing Wikimedia sites." So, either poor judgement or sloppy checking. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 17:12, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

@NeilN: Thats the thing: site or topic ban's don't necessitate that all content must be deleted: Wikipedia:Banning_policy#revert. I had reviewed that content in WP:NPP and found it to be reasonable, notable, and grounded in a wide breadth of scholarship. I have since learned that Global Ban's however, are a complete violation of the terms of service, therefore necessitate a much more thorough enforcement; however, the user page does not indicate that this is the best protocal for that content. Thus I was operating under the G5 notice, which was not sufficient to justify blanket deletion of the content by someone who is known from sockpuppetting (unlike, say, someone who has a history of COPYVIO, and their is evidence of it). 18:21, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcoming in and the tea...

I do have a question, however. Was the bit about signing messages on talk pages a helpful tip, or did I mess something up? I believe that this is my first posting on a talk page. And my primary purpose is to say "thank you" and "wow, you have an impressive profile!" Scott E 541 (talk) 18:23, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

@Scott E 541: Thats the advice I send everyone I welcome, I like to encourage socialization with the community :) This is the first time you have used a talk page, and you signed correctly here! I am glad you are interested, and hope you keep working on articles. Your work on cleaning up Pandorum's plot section, is quite a common problem (see Category:Wikipedia_articles_with_plot_summary_needing_attention ). Keep up the good work! And if you get a chance, I highly recommend the The Wikipedia Adventure: its fun, and does a really good job showing the breadth of different things to pay attention to on Wikipedia :) Sadads (talk) 18:30, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Patlıcan kebabı

Sadads, can you re-name the article as such, please. --176.239.129.171 (talk) 16:49, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

 Done Sadads (talk) 16:55, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much; can you please also re-name Patlıcanlı Kebap as "Patlıcanlı kebap". No need for capital letter. --176.239.129.171 (talk) 16:59, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

 Done Those articles look good, but don't have any references to them. It would be awesome if you found some references (such as reputable recipe books or cuisine studies), that could help back up the assertions about the dishes, and ensure that future editors don't questions them. Sadads (talk) 17:03, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

 Done Thanks again.

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Hi Sadads— it looks like you might be running a tool or something that is linking the string "author's home" to writer's home in cases where it is not correct or appropriate to do so. For example, this edit produced "author's home country" and this edit produced "author's home town", neither example having anything to do with writer's home. Could you double-check those edits and make sure that they're appropriate for each case? Regards, Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 00:57, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

@Orange Suede Sofa: I deliberately did the "authors home town" ones, because they have the same literary tourism value (people visit because its the "home" of the author, that overlaps with the setting of the work). I am stilling working on defining the scope of the article; in part, I am trying to figure out how the concepts are being used through Wikipedia. The sourcing defines the concept variably, so I am not committing entirely :P Thanks for the oversight, and feel free to revert ones that don't have a close enough association. Sadads (talk) 01:01, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

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Books and Bytes - Issue 14

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Issue 14, October-November 2015
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• New donations - Gale, Brill, plus Finnish and Farsi resources
• Open Access Week recap, and DOIs, Wikipedia, and scholarly citations
• Spotlight: 1Lib1Ref - a citation drive for librarians

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Patlıcan salatası

Hello Sadads, can you kindly rename Patlıcan salatası as Patlıcan kızartması? Thank you very much. --176.239.119.162 (talk) 22:36, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CXVII, December 2015

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@Modernist: Thank you so much! I hope your holidays also went well! Keep up the great work on creating quality content! Sadads (talk) 15:04, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

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Ta for barnstar. It's fun loading up photos from wiki commons into articles that need photos. Johnscotaus (talk) 00:27, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

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Library Interns

Hi Alex - I got the ping for this, Education Program:The Wikipedia Library/Library Interns (Spring 2016). Where do we go from here? --Rosiestep (talk) 04:03, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

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Thank you kindly - glad someone saw it. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:51, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

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WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 6

Newsletter • January 2016

Hello there! Happy to be writing this newsletter once more. This month:

What comes next

Some good news: the Wikimedia Foundation has renewed WikiProject X. This means we can continue focusing on making WikiProjects better.

During our first round of work, we created a prototype WikiProject based on two ideas: (1) WikiProjects should clearly present things for people to do, and (2) The content of WikiProjects should be automated as much as possible. We launched pilots, and for the most part it works. But this approach will not work for the long term. While it makes certain aspects of running a WikiProject easier, it makes the maintenance aspects harder.

We are working on a major overhaul that will address these issues. New features will include:

• Creating WikiProjects by simply filling out a form, choosing which reports you want to generate for your project. This will work with existing bots in addition to the Reports Bot reports. (Of course, you can also have sections curated by humans.)
• One-click button to join a WikiProject, with optional notifications.
• Be able to define your WikiProject's scope within the WikiProject itself by listing relevant pages and categories, eliminating the need to tag every talk page with a banner. (You will still be allowed to do that, of course. It just won't be required.)

The end goal is a collaboration tool that can be used by WikiProjects but also by any edit-a-thon or group of people that want to coordinate on improving articles. Though implemented as an extension, the underlying content will be wikitext, meaning that you can continue to use categories, templates, and other features as you normally would.

This will take a lot of work, and we are just getting started. What would you like to see? I invite you to discuss on our talk page.

Until next time,

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	Black Women's History online edit-a-thon 1 to 15 February 2016 Hosted by Women in Red Sponsored by AfroCrowd Supporting Black WikiHistory Month

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Novelization a link-worthy term?

I'll leave your linking of "novelization" alone for the time-being, but have asked here whether it's appropriate. My feeling is that the term is common enough that it shouldn't be linked. DonIago (talk) 14:08, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Chris Ryan

Just curious about this edit. Why do you feel he doesn't qualify for WP:WikiProject Novels, but does for WP: WikiProject Children's literature? Just seems odd. - ^theWOLFchild 09:07, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Good question @Thewolfchild: Novel's scope is very clearly defined as only the narratives and no biographies (see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels#Scope) whereas Children's literature includes authors and more real life stuff, like adaptations and author articles (see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Children's_literature#Project_scope). I have been curating a large portion of the articles tagged as novels for a few years now, so the definitions are pretty well followed :) It also helps keep the scope of work down to one type of research/writing, which helps make the backlog more managable. I would love to have your help in this, if your are interested :) I have managed to keep the backlog shrinking for about 2 months by working on the lower hanging fruit! Sadads (talk) 14:37, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

While I have admittedly not read all of Ryan's books, I do believe that his initial book was based on his military experiences, but many of his works that followed are fictional. I didn't know that he had written anything for children. I was under the impression that if anything, the projects would be the other way around (as in add 'novels' are remove 'children'), but I thought I would seek clarification from you if you're more familiar with his writings. Cheers. - ^theWOLFchild 14:49, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

@Thewolfchild: I am not familiar with his writings, but based on the article's content: novels only includes the articles about the narrative pieces of fiction, or the "works" themeselves, whereas he is an author of a "Quick Reads" novel, which means that he is an author within the scope of Children's literature. I am sure if someone runs across the article and works on Children's literature more, they might decide that that is a marginal amount of inclusion within the scope --> feel free to remove it if you want. I didn't add it, and tend not to work on those articles. Sadads (talk) 14:56, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

I don't have an issue with the 'children's project' header (I know I reading that genre before my teens), but I was thinking that it would be appropriate to retain the 'novel project' header... if you don't object. - ^theWOLFchild 15:05, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

@Thewolfchild: I guess I don't understand: why would you want the article in a WikiProject when its clearly not in the scope of the project? What value does that add, besides making the project's listing less useful? Of course there is error on other articles, the banners are added manually, but it doesn't contribute to the article itself. The project's scope is well established, and helps us figure out what needs to be maintained under the Novels MOS and other guidelines, Sadads (talk) 16:13, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps I'm missing something? Is it that the type of works he has written do not come under the scope of the project? Or is it that only articles about the novels themselves, and not about the author qualify? If it's the latter, I can understand, but even then this author has about 50 books and only one (1) currently has an article. The article we're discussing has a 'listed works' section which is the only point of reference and information about his novels. Perhaps the Novel project would benefit from this? Anyway... as I said, I'm not as familiar with these particular projects. I will leave this to you and support whichever way you decide to go. This has been enlightening however, and I thank you for that. Cheers. - ^theWOLFchild 16:32, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

@Thewolfchild: Yes, only articles about narrative fictional works (novels, short stories, myths, fairy tales) and their components or literary elements are within Novels scope: not lists on author pages. We let other projects maintain the biographical content :) Oh confusion! Happy editing! Sadads (talk) 16:37, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

All-righty then, good to know. Thanks again - ^theWOLFchild 16:40, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Thewolfchild, as an author of 20+ children's novels (see [1]), Ryan is definitely within the scope of Wikipedia:WikiProject Children's literature. Feel free to add words/reviews about these books Coolabahapple (talk) 12:25, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Against vandalism

Hello! I ask you make warning to any vandal on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Criticisms_of_Marxism&action=history 2.94.244.159 (talk) 18:41, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

This ip is just another incarnation of Need1521 (see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Need1521) himself a sock of community banned User:Crazy1980. Same editing patterns and quacking. Valenciano (talk) 19:00, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Brewing in Vermont

Hi--

Notability for the breweries needs to be demonstrated by footnotes to newspaper or other media, showing that these breweries: 1. Exist (most important!); 2. Are notable in some way. The section of the page at WP:ListBrew contains some guidance on this. I see from your most recent edit/revert that you plan to "work on this later," which I think is awesome. These breweries have been redlinks for a long time, so anything to improve that is much appreciated. A group of us including @IronGargoyle: and @Mudwater: are trying to patrol the various "Brewing in <State>" pages to clean them up a bit. So instead of us reverting and you re-reverting and going back and forth, maybe you can give an idea of the <very general, of course> timeline for adding footnotes or other evidence of notability. That way we can let the Vermont page rest a bit before coming back to it. Prof. Mc (talk) 21:47, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Sadads. According to WP:NNC, it's not necessary for each brewery listed in the article to be notable in the sense of WP:GNG. But, that's sort of beside the point. What we'd really like would be for each listed brewery to have at least one second-party reference -- something showing that the brewery is definitely there and producing and selling beer -- but not the brewery's own web page or social media account. Here's an example, to get you started. I just found that using Google. You can ping me here if you have any questions. Thanks. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 22:43, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Here's a couple more. Again, I'm just finding these using an internet search. (It's not necessary to do this for breweries that already have Wikipedia articles -- those are presumed to be sufficiently documented.) — Mudwater ^(Talk) 23:40, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

@Prof. Mc and Mudwater: Done, mostly local sources, but enough to prove notable enough for the list and in their local context. Its just really irritating to see all those removed by IronGargoyle without a good faith attempt to verify. I mostly patrol novels, and its very rare that I remove factual data without at least an attempt to check it against Google. Such blanket removal, is very poor form, unless you have reason to believe its bad information. If I were a new editor that would be very discouraging. Sadads (talk) 02:02, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Looks good! Thanks for your work on this. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 02:15, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

List of Ulysses characters

Per the AfD, I have merged the stubs and added some information about the non-stub articles. All yours now. Best, Yash! 05:26, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, I will add bits and pieces over the next couple weeks (don't really want to dive too deep into Ulysses). I will make sure that we are focusing on the (going to get rid of the gradesaver citations, hopefully). Sadads (talk) 19:22, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

@Yash!: bad ping, Sadads (talk) 19:22, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

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February events and meetups in DC

Greetings from Wikimedia DC!

February is shaping up to be a record-breaking month for us, with nine scheduled edit-a-thons and several other events:

• On Friday, February 12, NPR will host a Black History Month First Edit event.
• On Saturday, February 13 and Sunday, February 14, we're working with the Wiki Education Foundation to hold a series of four edit-a-thons at the AAAS 2016 Annual Meeting.
• On Tuesday, February 16, we're holding the Smithsonian American Art Museum and American University WikiWorkshop with Professor Andrew Lih's class.
• On Saturday, February 20, the Smithsonian American Art Museum will host the African American Artists Edit-a-Thon.
• On Friday, February 26, Howard University will host its second annual Black History Month Edit-a-Thon.
• On Saturday, February 27, we have three different events. In the morning, we're holding an Accessibility Edit-a-Thon at Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial Library. In the afternoon, we'll host our second February WikiSalon at Cove Dupont Circle, followed by our monthly dinner meetup at Vapiano.

We hope to see you at one—or all—of these events!

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Caroline Roe

Hi Sadads! Just a quick question about your assisted edit to the Caroline Roe article. Thank you for adding the WikiProject Biography banner, but why did it replace the WikiProject Novels / Crime banner? Since Roe's a crime novelist, it seems appropriate to include both. Am I missing something? Lemuellio (talk) 03:57, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Edit: I see that I did miss something … I just looked further up on your talkpage, and noticed the conversation you recently had on a similar topic. Sorry to give you déja vu.

However, it does seem that the Crime task force, at the very least, includes biographical articles; the Agatha Christie article is listed as top-importance there. Hope this helps, and thanks. Lemuellio (talk) 04:01, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

@Lemuellio: Hahaha, yes very Deja Vu. I realize its an interesting scope differentiation, but it actually makes maintaining the articles more consistent (I have been able to systematically reduce maintenance tags on the project for the past couple months because they are all fiction.)

As for article tagging: If an article belongs to a task force, and the task force has already defined a wider scope (for example the WP:Harry Potter task force) I leave the tags on. However, I very rarely proactively tag task forces: because they are largely inactive, except for the WP:Percy Jackson task force. Feel free to include articles proactively in the task force -- and if you are interested we would love to see more contributors leading in collaboration -- I get the impression its mostly a very small handful of us doing article maintenance. Sadads (talk) 14:06, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Spirit Animals

I see that you work on WikiProject Novels. Well I have been mostly working on horse articles and just created a new novel article. User:Horsegeek/Spirit Animals (novel) Is there anything you could help me with or suggest? Thanks Horsegeek^(talk) 23:28, 14 February 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek

@Horsegeek: Looks like you have a good start. However, you have focused the entire article on plot, and WP:Notability (books) focuses almost entirely on real world implications (how the book was developed, why it was popular, how critics and experts recieve the work, etc). I would highly recommend reading the research guide at WP:Manual of Style (novels), for a sense of the kind of research and real world topics that should be covered. After you read the guidelines, and do some more reasearch, feel free to re-reach out to me if you have any more questions, Sadads (talk) 02:20, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Books & Bytes - Issue 15

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Books & Bytes
Issue 15, December-January 2016
by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs), Sadads (talk · contribs), Nikkimaria (talk · contribs), UY Scuti (talk · contribs)

• New donations - Ships, medical resources, plus Arabic and Farsi resources
• #1lib1ref campaign summary and highlights
• New branches and coordinators

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WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 7

Newsletter • February 2016

This month:

One database for Wikipedia requests

Development of the extension for setting up WikiProjects, as described in the last issue of this newsletter, is currently underway. No terribly exciting news on this front.

In the meantime, we are working on a prototype for a new service we hope to announce soon. The problem: there are requests scattered all across Wikipedia, including requests for new articles and requests for improvements to existing articles. We Wikipedians are very good at coming up with lists of things to do. But once we write these lists, where do they end up? How can we make them useful for all editors—even those who do not browse the missing articles lists, or the particular WikiProjects that have lists?

Introducing Wikipedia Requests, a new tool to centralize the various lists of requests around Wikipedia. Requests will be tagged by category and WikiProject, making it easier to find requests based on what your interests are. Accompanying this service will be a bot that will let you generate reports from this database on any wiki page, including WikiProjects. This means that once a request is filed centrally, it can syndicated all throughout Wikipedia, and once it is fulfilled, it will be marked as "complete" throughout Wikipedia. The idea for this service came about when I saw that it was easy to put together to-do lists based on database queries, but it was harder to do this for human-generated requests when those requests are scattered throughout the wiki, siloed throughout several pages. This should especially be useful for WikiProjects that have overlapping interests.

The newsletter this month is fairly brief; not a lot of news, just checking in to say that we are hard at work and hope to have more for you soon.

Until next time,

Harej (talk) 01:43, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

@Harej: Hi James! I can just imagine the transition between paragraphs in your characteristically James voice! Awesome to see you all hard at work (any chance you are going to make the WikiProject Directory "participant" list a bit more useful: sorting out very active contributors by bytes of contribution, or volume of edits, etc.). Sadads (talk) 02:08, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

It is a tracked task of ours but unfortunately is currently being given low priority. But I am happy to hear of specific ideas you may have. Harej (talk) 03:29, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

@Harej: I don't have a whole lot of time for volunteer time, but would love to figure out who is active in Novels articles, to encourage more collaboration. However, the current list includes way too many people, most of which aren't significantly contributing -- and doesn't give me many opportunities for strategically intervening. It would be great to have the editors broken into several groups "Recently new accounts", "limited contributions to area" (<600 or 700 bytes of change), "significant contributions to area" (>700 bytes of change), and high frequency contributors (more than 15 edits in scope). With these groups, I would be able to better sort those people in the project. The other option could be making a table with sum change in bytes and # of edits in area and # of articles modified, so that project coordinators could determine what the sort criteria are. There are certain editors that, if I could sort the edit activity quickly, would be immediately ruled out in my outreach -- so I am not spamming -- and let me prioritize people who significantly participate. You could make it even better by running those edits through ORES for some quality/significance assessment, but that not a priority, Sadads (talk) 04:15, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

George Bernard Shaw

Hello, Sadads. After a lengthy overhaul GBS is up for peer review, and if you have time and disposition to look in—perfectly understand if not, naturally—your input would be exceedingly welcome. Tim riley talk 16:01, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXIX, February 2016

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-Class content Book review: Hawkeye7 on nuclear weapons in Britain and Nick-D on Australia's war in the Pacific Op-ed: TomStar81 looks at the Kamurun Campaign of 1914–16 Timeline: This month in World War I

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Note

You're about to hit 3rr on capitoul, so take it to the talk page. I'm not saying you don't have good reasons for your tag, but you need to give them instead of just unhelpfully spamming the page with no explanation. "It seems kinda long" isn't actually an explanation. What specifically do you think needs to be addressed? — LlywelynII 14:21, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

I was no where close to 3rr -- that requires all three edits to be in 24 hours.

As for not having a long enough lead: there are 10 paragraphs of history, but only 1 sentence of summary of that history: Of course it doesn't adequetly summarize per Wikipedia:Lead. As a reader, the current something tells me nothing: what they were responsible for as a magistrate, why the role was implemented, why it was suppressed, there is a mysterious section on Rival councils that is not mentioned, similarly there is no discussion of how the election worked. Quite simply, the lead doesn't actually summarize, it only glosses. I tagged it so that someone who understands the article can improve the summary. Sadads (talk) 14:48, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

@LlywelynII:, Sadads (talk) 14:49, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

AfD and TfD

I have nominated a template you created, Template:MaryJanice Davidson, and nearly all of the articles it links to, for deletion (see Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Undead_and_Unwed). —swpb^T 19:50, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

@Swpb: Thanks for the reminder -- but you have create a very hard to reflect on, and assess -- due diligence in checking all of the articles at once, is crazy especially when they are parts of different series -- the author and some of the works are clearly notable. Moreover, I would be happy to delete the template, if and only if there are not a significant number of article pages to link to, Sadads (talk) 14:58, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

March events and meetups in DC

Greetings from Wikimedia DC!

Looking for something to do in DC in March? We have a series of great events planned for the month:

• On Wednesday, March 9, we'll host our first March WikiSalon at Cove Dupont Circle.
• On Friday, March 11, the National Archives will host the Women in the Civil War Edit-a-Thon.
• On Saturday, March 19, the Smithsonian National Museum of the American Indian will host the Color History with the Smithsonian! event, and we'll hold our second Accessibility Edit-a-Thon at the Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial Library.
• On Sunday, March 20, the American Chemical Society will host the Computers in Chemistry Edit-a-Thon.
• On Saturday, March 26, we'll host our second March WikiSalon at Cove Dupont Circle, followed by our monthly dinner meetup at Vapiano.

Can't make it to an event? Most of our edit-a-thons allow virtual participation; see the guide for more details.

Do you have an idea for a future event? Please write to us at info@wikimediadc.org!

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Hi there Alex. I'm Kiran from India. I've been quite active in wikiHow and hence wanted to try Wikipedia as well. Hence I came here and signed up an account. Could you help me out with the basics?

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Thank you for getting back to me!

Thank you for getting back to me Alex! I will refer those links which you gave me! :)

Is Wikipedia similar to WikiHow?

Vaidyanathan.kiran (talk) 12:36, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi @Vaidyanathan.kiran: Super exciting to have you! Glad that you found me -- and would be happy to help. Those links on you talk page are a Welcome template I left which has my favorite links for introducing new users. In particular, WP:The Wikipedia Adventure is my favorite tutorial for introducing you to both WikiText editing and the community's policies.

Secondly, if I am not particularly responsive to a question (I am frequentlly quite busy), I would recommend visiting the WP:Teahouse -- its a great place to get support, and we have a ton of very helpful community mentors there.

Wikipedia has very different rules than WikiHow for including articles and content (I would watch File:Verifiability_and_Neutral_point_of_view_(Common_Craft)-en.ogv). Principally its a matter of finding enough and high enough quality WP:Reliable sources to demonstrate that a topic is WP:Notable. What are you interested in writing about? After you take the Wikipedia Adventure I would be happy to mentor you through either writing your first article or helping revise/improve existing ones. We have a Backlog and pretty substantial gaps in coverage, so there are always big and small ways to contribute.

I would also be happy to point you toward more resources to answer your questions. I principally write about novels. Feel free to share any questions you have, Sadads (talk) 12:48, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Heart of a Dog

Hello,

You've put the citation needed tag on the following:

"Nevertheless, the name was chosen following the Russian tradition of "consulting the calendar," with Poligraf's name day being March 4.[citation needed]"

I'll ask you to just open up the book e.g. [2] and search for "March 4". The whole story of March 4 and the calendar are within 2 paragraphs on either side of this. Unfortunately, I can't find an edition with page numbers on it, so it is difficult to cite, but it is definitely there. It is no more OR than 2+2=4. Poligraf says he got his name from the calendar and the name day is March 4. Thank you for your time. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 00:56, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

@Smallbones: I was actually challenging the "Russian tradition of consulting the calendar" part -- that is interpretative unless its a quote from the book. And even then, for we really ought to be verifying that this is in fact a "russian tradition" -- fiction allows for hyberbole on these kinds of things, and for all I know its a plot devise or sometype of metaphor, or parallel to Roman naming traditions. At the time, I did a quick search of Google to understand if it is in fact a Russian tradition and didn't find anything too concrete. For this kind of thing, we wouldn't be citing the novel, but a secondary resource and/or we ought to be documenting this tradition on Wikipedia and linking to it to explain to our readers. Thanks for trying to reach clarification! Sadads (talk) 01:49, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Ah, some things that seem obvious to some folks are not always clear to others. See the ref I added.Milne, Lesley (1990). Mikhail Bulgakov: A Critical Biography. Cambridge University Press. p. 65-66. ISBN 9780521227285. Retrieved 5 April 2016.Smallbones_(smalltalk) 02:05, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Brilliant! Thats precisely what I was looking for. Your awesome Smallbones! Also, if you are in the business of fixing {{cn}} I would highly recommend using Citation Hunt. It proposes random cns to work on, and you can sort them by topic (which makes my backlog working impulse jump with excitement :) Sadads (talk) 02:24, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

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Hi Sadads, I've noticed a few of your assessments to Clairvius Narcisse that changed from WikiProject Haiti to the WikiProject Caribbean; we want it to be the former (Haiti). This was most likely unintentional considering you used a gadget. I am just wondering how we can avoid this from happening as it has happened before in the past. Savvyjack23 (talk) 06:33, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

@Savvyjack23: Huh, that is odd. I added the Haiti project to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kephir/gadgets/rater/projects.js Hopefully that fixes it, so its discoverable for the tool, and we don't accidentally remove projects. Sadads (talk) 02:36, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Sadads. I was actually coordinating the same issue with Christian75, in which had made similar edits due to the project not being added. I believe he had mentioned it in as well. The more the merrier. Thanks. Savvyjack23 (talk) 02:42, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Meno25 fixed it here: diff, and ping to Savvyjack23 too. Christian75 (talk) 12:37, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

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Hi Sadads, I've been sandboxing an article about this novel (the last one of Murcoch's not to have a Wikipedia article) and was delighted to see that you've started one already! I just added an infobox with 1st edition cover and a plot summary. I'm working on Major Themes and Literary Significance and will go ahead and add them in the next couple of days if you have no objection... I mean, unless you have something ready to go already. All the best, HazelAB (talk) 15:28, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

@HazelAB: No worries: that was an article I stumbled by as an opportunity, and wrote it as part of my meta:100wikidays. I am documenting the article I work on at User:Sadads/100_Wikidays_Prep. I just look for redlinks in sets of articles that I know I can research (novels, novelists, etc. I have no particular emotional commitment to the articles, so keep writing :) Sadads (talk) 23:11, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Great, I'll press on then. Your 100 Wikidays project is most impressive - all the best with it! HazelAB (talk) 23:16, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

@HazelAB: You could participate too! We need more English Wikipedians who try to do it: most of the participants so far have been on other languages. I know you could do it! 01:46, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

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The Goldfinch (novel)

Have expanded lead. OK with you? Clifford Mill (talk) 18:46, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

@Clifford Mill: Hey Clifford: the lead still doesn't fully summarize the content in the article (for example something like 2/3s of the article proper is not covered in the lead (the critical reception, and the analysis of the novel). Also, the section that you added about literary references: on Wikipedia we only include those in articles, if they are subject to substantial critical discussion (see the description of why we don't do this). If you need more help writing about Novels, make sure to also check out the guidance at: Novels writing guidelines, and recommendations, Sadads (talk) 22:50, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

In general though: good work, and I know its difficult to adjust to our writing style: we have about 15 years of lessons learned about writing these articles, that we don't introduce folks to very well. If you want help learning more, or getting direct feedback, {{ping}} me, Sadads (talk) 22:52, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

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Anglo-Saxon weaponry

Hi Sadads. I see that you restored the information sourced to Powell's book. As you know, it needs a page number, and apparently no one has access to the book. I did a massive copy edit on the article and have nominated it for GA status, and I'm concerned that the reviewer might mention the page number issue. Do you think we should just remove the tag and leave it as is? Biblio (talk) WikiProject Reforming Wikipedia. 16:56, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

I would wait for the review if that is actually a concern (you will have a few weeks before someone reviews it, if recent trends in GA backlog continue), or try to find that information in another source. I imagine that that is fairly common knowledge (I have seen that concept of freedom and having a full blade in several other settings before related to Anglo-Saxon culture). You might also try Inter Library Loan through your local library or WP:RX -- that particular paragraph feels like an important element of social history, and one that I would hate to see omitted if it can be verified (as it appears to be at the moment). I will try to find something this evening, when I am beyond work hours, Sadads (talk) 20:00, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

@Biblioworm: here is evidence that the book covers the topic in an earlier edition. Also, in looking through WorldCat, seems like a number of libraries have it. Sadads (talk) 20:25, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

I doubt that it would be major issue in the review that would outright keep it from attaining GA status. Biblio (talk) WikiProject Reforming Wikipedia. 21:25, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Saturday (novel)

Hello Sadads. Regarding your reversion of my edits of Saturday (novel), it was not my intention to discriminate between paywall and nonpaywall sources. My purpose was to streamline the edits so that the citation problem that appeared would be banished. I reinstated the edit. The article by Scurr remains a source. It did not go away. The citations now are tidier. Iss246 (talk) 17:16, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi @Iss246:: thats the thing, by removing the url, you are making it harder to verify the work. Now you may want to signal how open the content is, using the new parameter in one of the citation templates . Template:Cite_news#Subscription_or_registration_required, that makes a lot of sense. But completely removing the url, undermines the value of that extra data -- which someone took the time to find (presumambly with a subscription). Happy editing, and I hope you are a bit more careful next time, Sadads (talk) 19:56, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi @Sadads:: The URL is still there. It is there for the first instance of the citation. It does not need to be repeated. It is taken care of. Iss246 (talk) 01:17, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi @Sadads:: I got it. There was a problem down the citation line that I fixed, but thoughtlessly removed the citation. Sorry about that. Iss246 (talk) 01:22, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

@Iss246: No worries, good thing I caught it though :) I have made plenty of mistakes editing myself, so not one to critique too much. Sadads (talk) 03:10, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

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Hello Sadads, I could add 3 references from 3 sources. Notability: He was secretary of state, he has an article in dewiki and the grave is obtained, after retirement he worked for the church, he has an article in "Deutsche Biographie" and the Prussian Machine, this should be enough. Regards--Buchbibliothek (talk) 09:43, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi @Buchbibliothek:, its a good first step, sure, but the article could still use better verification -- and part of the reason I had trouble assessing notability (which their likely is, but not neccesarily), is because of the lack of claim for notability in the article (the article doesn't declare why he is notable -- I added government minister to the lead to clarify-- but the sourcing still needs quite a bit of improvement -- there is a lot of information in their, not covered by the footnotes.) Sadads (talk) 14:13, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

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Thank you Sadads! I will work on the references in the article, i think that i can uso bibliography as secondary source to hold it. --LUMUMBA (talk) 15:11, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

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• Congratulations! Well done old friend! :) Nice to see you still here and being so productive. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:37, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

  @Anna Frodesiak: Thanks so much! Seems I missed your 100,000 so congrats back! We keep running past eachother here on wiki, but still haven't run into eachother IRL. Wikimania is in Montreal this year? Would be great to have you! Sadads (talk) 13:28, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi! Don't worry about missing my 100k. Sorry I won't be able to make Wikimania. I'm still on the other side of the ball. All the best and look forward to running into you again soon. :) :) :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:07, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

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Editing topics related to the disabled

I am deeply troubled by the way you approach the article on the Colorado Center for the Blind. Perhaps the biggest problem with Wikipedia is that it is overwhelmingly edited by males who so closely fit your own social, political, educational and non-disabled background. What you are doing to this article practically prevents blind people from editing Wikipedia. Although I doubt you've noticed it, there is a glaring absence of articles related to topics of importance to the disabled because it is so hard to edit Wikipedia with a disability. Here is an outside article for casual readers on the matter, but there are many detailed sources on this topic if you care to look into it further:

http://www.vice.com/read/blind-in-the-age-of-images-what-its-like-to-be-blind-on-the-internet-456

I was even more disturbed by your posts on the talk page to the article where you argue your own motivations, intentions and self-applauding adherence to policy means anyone who calls you out on your biases is "attacking" you or "malicious"...all the while failing to recognize how intentions and rules damage the mission of Wikipedia when it means they become an organizationally-enforced bias against the blind. Your own charitable mindset, of which you are so anxious to advertise, is in my view of little consequence to the damage you do to people with disabilities trying to make their culture equal to those who are fully sighted or otherwise without physical/mental impairment. Take a different approach than a scolding schoolmarm when its so obvious an article is an effort to include the disabled into Wikipedia, please. Leidseplein (talk) 06:25, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

@Leidseplein: I hear your concern about the problems with the web more generally. What I am alarmed at: you have seen a grand total of two of my comments, and assume that I am trying to prevent you from sharing knowledge. I am your ally in this: I am trying to show you which parts of this, admittedly biased and structurally resistant to minority communities, system and community works. Attacking my privileges and biases, without having had many interactions with me -- is doing the same thing that you are getting mad about: placing blanket assumptions about an individual with diverse life experiences, that make me more than just a demographic (summing me up as "an example of gross bias made by an overzealous sighted editor" and as "a sighted editors that effectively excludes [others]" is scathing, and escalated our interaction from back and forth dialogue, to stereotyping of me as malicious.... it sets up an "us vs. them" dynamic that put me on the defensive because I identify as an ally-- if my defensiveness came off as puffery, that was not my intention).

We are in this project together, and one of the very first principles is WP:Assuming good faith of the editors in this community. Please respect, that almost every contributor, though often very privileged, actually has very good intentions: we use these very biased structures, because they work to prevent kruft (Garage bands, business people with big egos, marketing teams, etc.) but they also catch likely good content too (like that of under-documented communities); once you understand the structures (like WP:Notability) work to change the structures, so that the likely good content can thrive here -- or work to prepare the people who can contribute to use these structures for good. I would strongly recommend reading the training materials provided by the Art+Feminism Community -- they can speak to this, with much more experience in making change than I have. I really do want you to succeed: but I also know, parts of our community do not acknowledge their biases, not want to work to change the system, or will not have sympathy for your position -- and the language used earlier will make them feel like they are targets of a crusader meaning to attack, rather than of someone meaning to collaborate (which I hope you are). Writing on the internet is hard; writing on the internet about minority communities is harder; working with other people to increase coverage of underrepresented communities on the internet is several degrees harder because you have to be respectful to whomever is behind the screen, and for whatever life experiences they may have -- Sadads (talk) 01:25, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Fake Drama series for Hum TV by user Info.Channels

I want to report an issue of several Wikipedia pages as {{Hoax}}es created by user Info.Channels. You recently commented on his talk page, but all of the pages that user created is fake, no notability and no any reliable sources. I have been creating and associated with Hum TV for creating its drama series but i never heard about the drama/TV series that user created. SO please look into this issue or guide me in this regard. Nauriya (Rendezvous) 21:55, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi @Nauriya: I was doing page patrol, and the article looked fairly legitimate, compared to other material. Another editor, @Someguy1221: investigated the apparant hoax work, and will be able to talk more about how these were identified as problems. What you have seen is our net of several layers of review, catching poor content. Sadads (talk) 14:01, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

RfC for page patroller qualifications

Following up from the consensus reached here, the community will now establish the user right criteria. You may wish to participate in this discussion. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:43, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXVI, October 2016

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Nick-D and Hawkeye7 look at recent works Op-ed: TomStar81 on the evolution of the tank Timeline: This month in World War I

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Preparing Moby-Dick for GA -review?

Hello Sadads, I was wondering if you would be so kind as to look at Moby-Dick and point out what more you feel needs to be done before it can be submitted for GA review. For one thing, he reception section needs to be fleshed out some more I know, but it would be nice to get some input from somebody with some experience in the grading procedure. Best wishes MackyBeth (talk) 14:39, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 19

The Wikipedia Library

Books & Bytes
Issue 19, September–October 2016
by Nikkimaria, Sadads and UY Scuti

• New and expanded donations - Foreign Affairs, Open Edition, and many more
• New Library Card Platform and Conference news
• Spotlight: Fixing one million broken links

Read the full newsletter

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"M" Is for Malice

Would you please remove the phrase after the lead or add the beginning of it and move it? I'm not a native speaker to do it myself.Xx236 (talk) 12:15, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

@Xx236: Oops: don't know where that goes. In general, I would invite you to make those kinds of maintenance edits, when you notice them :) Happy editing, Sadads (talk) 14:51, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Category:Plants in popular culture has been nominated for discussion

Category:Plants in popular culture, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Paul_012 (talk) 13:50, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Birdsong (novel)

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The Bugle: Issue CXXVII, November 2016

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Category:Plants in popular culture has been nominated for discussion

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Two-Factor Authentication now available for admins

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Please note that TOTP based two-factor authentication is now available for all administrators. In light of the recent compromised accounts, you are encouraged to add this additional layer of security to your account. It may be enabled on your preferences page in the "User profile" tab under the "Basic information" section. For basic instructions on how to enable two-factor authentication, please see the developing help page for additional information. Important: Be sure to record the two-factor authentication key and the single use keys. If you lose your two factor authentication and do not have the keys, it's possible that your account will not be recoverable. Furthermore, you are encouraged to utilize a unique password and two-factor authentication for the email account associated with your Wikimedia account. This measure will assist in safeguarding your account from malicious password resets. Comments, questions, and concerns may be directed to the thread on the administrators' noticeboard. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:34, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

A new user right for New Page Patrollers

Hi Sadads.

A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.

It is anticipated that this user right will significantly reduce the work load of admins who patrol the performance of the patrollers. However,due to the complexity of the rollout, some rights may have been accorded that may later need to be withdrawn, so some help will still be needed to some extent when discovering wrongly applied deletion tags or inappropriate pages that escape the attention of less experienced reviewers, and above all, hasty and bitey tagging for maintenance. User warnings are available here but very often a friendly custom message works best.

If you have any questions about this user right, don't hesitate to join us at WT:NPR. (Sent to all admins).MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:47, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!

Hello, Sadads. Voting in the 2016 Arbitration Committee elections is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer - RfC

Hi Sadads. You are invited to comment at a further discussion on the implementation of this user right to patrol and review new pages that is taking place at Wikipedia:New pages patrol/RfC on patrolling without user right. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:05, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Impressive work, keep it up. And thanks

@Sadads: Thanks again for the suggestion on the Wikipedia talk:Community portal page. Out of curiosity I clicked over to your page, and good GOD you've got a hefty "résumé" worth of edits! 100k and being 384 in rank is quite impressive. Keep up the awesome work! (as if you need my encouragement to continue what you've got solid precedent for :-P ) PolymathGirl (talk) 23:44, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi @Bush6984: Thanks for the visit! A substantial part of my life has been used to contribute to Wikimedia projects :P I find a healthy mix of in-person and online contribution helps it make more sense :) Keep up the good work and contributing! Its especially important to think about how new contributors can join the community and find small and clear ways to participate. Let me know where I can help, or point you at resources to help you in that effort. Sadads (talk) 02:03, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXVIII, December 2016

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A new student editor could use some feedback

Hi Sadads, I'm teaching a course in environmental law. Would you be up for giving some feedback to this student's page? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under2_MOU Many thanks Aarf613 (talk) 05:49, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

@Aarf613: I gave some feedback on the talk page Talk:Under2_MOU (note how I can use double square brackets to link directly to the Wikipedia page). In general, it feels like the article did some really basic initial research, but the student didn't think about developing the context of the topic, or looking for more than the first couple sources they could find. As a former writing teacher, I tried to write some prompting revision questions. They may take it a bit hard, in that I am not sure what level of research and expectations you placed on them (or what level of student they are). If you would like me to clarify or respond to anything (or tone down the critique), please let me know or {{ping}} me. Sadads (talk) 02:44, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

A beer for you!!!

Hi Sadads, Thanks for reviewing my student's article on Under2MOU. Aarf613 (talk) 18:29, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

I think your impression of his article was accurate. His work was pretty cursory and rushed. I'm expecting more. These are the other student articles by comparison. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Ed/University_of_San_Francisco/Environmental_Law_II_(Fall) |I'm hoping he'll take your advice and improve his article. Additionally, the architect of the Under2MOU knows that this student is writing the article on the topic (and has visited our class) so I would have thought the student would have put a bit more effort into getting it right. Once again, thanks for your feedback!Aarf613 (talk) 21:06, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

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User rights

I had to read up on what that meant but thank you cOrneLlrOckEy (talk) 17:46, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

@Cornellrockey: No problem: I ran into some of your work on Special:NewPagesFeed and realized that you don't need to be patrolled. Generally, it seems unhelpful for strong content creators, to get unneeded scrutiny.Sadads (talk) 17:56, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

@Sadads: definitely having that moment when you didn't realize your work was still being patrolled until after you were told was no longer happening :) cOrneLlrOckEy (talk) 17:58, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

@Cornellrockey: The maintenance and monitoring queues are very quiet unless you run into them with significant confrontation :P In a way, thats a good thing. I would encourage you find out more, and get involved. There is quite a backlog of materials that need to be reviewed, and supported (and also a fair amount of content that needs a good helping hand), Sadads (talk) 18:11, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Birdsong (novel)

On 19 December 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Birdsong (novel), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that one critic described the novel Birdsong by Sebastian Faulks as starting a trend in the 1990s of British literature rethinking the legacy of the World Wars? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Birdsong (novel). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Birdsong (novel)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Updated user rights

Hi Sadads. Many thanks for updating my User Rights - a bit of a surprise because I imagined that I would need to ask for them. I have a warm and fuzzy feeling about being a 'trusted user'!

Thanks again. Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 08:09, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

@The joy of all things: Keep up the good work, and keep making sure to thoroughly reference and check new articles for notability and thorough formatting! The main purpose of the article patrolling, is to make sure that new articles get integrated thoroughly into the project. Sadads (talk) 14:34, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

re my comment at jim f

is it a nuisance to have left welcomes of the various types, just minutes before you or other admins zap for what you folks consider the obvious ? It would be useful to get a handle as to whether levels of obvious zappable 'starts' dont require formal statements of welcome on the talk pages.... or can be nuisance for admins about to do their thing JarrahTree 14:52, 19 December 2016 (UTC)