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Hi there -- you've protected this article indefinitely -- can I ask that you downgrade it to semi-protection, or put an expiration date in place? Indefinite full protection seems excessive: there's a brand-new editor removing information without good justification, that's the only problem here. As a Hebrew speaker, I'm happy to vouch for the sources in question -- they verify the content. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 13:36, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

As soon as there is a consensus, either for including or excluding the information in question, I will drop protection. Given that it has been a few days and there has been almost zero movement on the discussion front, I'm not inclined to set a specific timeframe for dropping the protection (as it forces me to be more vigilant of the discussion and remove it when necessary). Additionally, unless I am mistaken there were ExCon users that were warring, so dropping the protection to Semi would not do any good.
Either way, I am watching the article's talk page, and am happy to evaluate any edit requests that are made. Primefac (talk) 16:23, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
I think one issue is that you protected it indef, rather than a week or two. That is usually reserved for articles where escalating protection didn't work. Sir Joseph (talk) 16:33, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
This is a slow-burning edit war, with the last half-dozen blanking edits going back six months; this is the primary reason why I went with an indef over any shorter of a timeframe; the disruption would likely just start back up again after it expired, and I wanted there to be a firm consensus before that happened.
Regarding full protection, I took another look at the editors involved and cannot find the blanking editor that was ECP; I now suspect that I had clicked the wrong contributions link. Some of the registered users are close to being autoconfirmed, but in the meantime I will drop the protection. Primefac (talk) 16:39, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Follow-up RfC to TFA PC protection trial

Hello Primefac, could you (or someone else stalking this page) please start a follow-up RfC to Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 178#Pending-changes protection of Today's featured article? The BRFA that implemented the one-month trial which you approved is here: Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/AnomieBOT III 7. I would start it myself, but I am a noob when it comes to RfC's, and I don't want to drop the ball. — Goszei (talk) 08:08, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

It was Narky Blert's idea originally; other than approving the bot trial I have had no involvement in the matter and do not feel it would be a good idea to be the "figurehead" so to speak of an RFC in which I would likely not even participate normally. Primefac (talk) 11:04, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
OK, I suppose it's up to me then... Narky Blert (talk) 11:26, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
Done - Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RFC: Pending-changes protection of Today's featured article. Courtesy ping to Goszei. Narky Blert (talk) 12:08, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Ali Mozaffari page

Dear Primefac, Regarding the page for Ali Mozaffari more independent sources (BBC Persian Service, SBS, New Eastern Europe, Radio Farda, etc) have been added to the text. Thanks for your attention. --Malekfarugh (talk) 23:47, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Sounds good! Please feel free to resubmit if you think the previous concerns have been addressed. Primefac (talk) 16:24, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Hello Primefac, I just resubmitted the page. Please review that. Thanks.--Malekfarugh (talk) 17:51, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Sorry, but I don't really do reviews on request. Primefac (talk) 11:03, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
Hello. No problem. As you reviewed the page in the past, I thought I need to keep you informed. All the best.--Malekfarugh (talk) 18:32, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Unblock request (2)

unblock me Zain Mazhoor (talk) 15:15, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Zain Mazhoor, clearly you are not blocked. The message I left on your talk page was a warning that you would be blocked if you continue adding unsourced content to that page. If the information is true, it must be sourced. Primefac (talk) 15:18, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Appealing the closure result of this TfD entry

Hi, I believe the no consensus result of the above TfD entry is inconsistent with the content of the discussion. The nominator proposed two methods to stop transcluding the template. There was a clear majority in favor of stopping the transclusion: 3 and a bit (me, GKFX, Izno and likely 67.70.27.180) to 1 (Pppery) and Nabla was not voting. Although the specific method to apply had no consensus (because Izno preferred a delete), I think we could call it a "win" for the transclusion stop, especially because GKFX countered well Pppery's arguments and because the number of articles is not very relevant as it can easily flop between sides. Furthermore, Pppery did not reply to defend his arguments or raise new ones in what seemed to be a concession. What was your reasoning behind the closure? Alexiscoutinho (talk) 16:36, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

I've seen this, and will be replying later, just haven't had an opportunity to devote the brainspace yet. Primefac (talk) 11:05, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
Forget about it. I've decided to do something else in the near future. Alexiscoutinho (talk) 16:11, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
Okay. Sorry for the delay. Primefac (talk) 16:51, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Systematic disruptive editing, provocations of edit warring in Wikipedia by user Лобачев Владими

@Primefac: Hello, thanks for your comment, but how is it possible to deal with these disruptive users who want to rewrite the Lithuania-related topics according to non-online Cyrillic (Russian-Belarusian) sources and again and again perform edit warring? This report: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/3RRArchive436#User:Лобачев_Владимир_reported_by_User:Pofka_(Result:_) resulted in nothing despite a lot of evidence provided by myself and another user Rgvis. I do not know how to deal with them apart from edit warring with them non-stop, but I do not want to violate rules. Also, please pay attention to what Lithuanian topics reviewer Sabbatino stated at Wikipedia:Arbitration. He noticed their disruptive, coordinated editing as well. -- Pofka (talk) 13:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

WP:DRN, WP:AN, WP:ANI, WP:3O (if it's a content issue), WP:AE (if it falls under ArbCom-sanctioned areas). Primefac (talk) 22:02, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Request

Hi @Primefac:, Please see my request for AFC reviewer.I hope for positive response.(Fade258 (talk) 08:21, 1 July 2021 (UTC))

Hi Fade258, please be more patient and avoid a possible impression of forum shopping. The request will be answered, just like all others. You have already confirmed that there is no urgency in this (Special:Diff/1031351161), so please wait like everyone else. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:05, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, I've been a bit busy with summer school starting up and running (and no one doing their jobs in a timely manner). I'll do what I can to get to the AFCP list this weekend. Primefac (talk) 14:56, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Please add professional footballer instead of srilankan footballer as he is dual nationality - sri lankan and british

found his dual nationality detail in the public domain here: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/dillon-de-silva/profil/spieler/683855 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lhomede (talkcontribs) 21:08, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Lhomede, you might want to post at Talk:Dillon_De_Silva#Help_me!. Primefac (talk) 22:03, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Request

Hi @Primefac: Can you please remove my permissions for AFC and NPP. I don't intend to do any more review work from this point forward. Thanks. scope_creepTalk 22:13, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Sure. Primefac (talk) 22:29, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2021).

Guideline and policy news

  • Consensus has been reached to delete all books in the book namespace. There was rough consensus that the deleted books should still be available on request at WP:REFUND even after the namespace is removed.
  • An RfC is open to discuss the next steps following a trial which automatically applied pending changes to TFAs.

Technical news

  • IP addresses of unregistered users are to be hidden from everyone. There is a rough draft of how IP addresses may be shown to users who need to see them. This currently details allowing administrators, checkusers, stewards and those with a new usergroup to view the full IP address of unregistered users. Editors with at least 500 edits and an account over a year old will be able to see all but the end of the IP address in the proposal. The ability to see the IP addresses hidden behind the mask would be dependent on agreeing to not share the parts of the IP address they can see with those who do not have access to the same information. Accessing part of or the full IP address of a masked editor would also be logged. Comments on the draft are being welcomed at the talk page.

Arbitration


Hi,

could you change the protection level of template:Metadata Population DE-RP from Edit=Require template editor access to Edit=Autoconfirmed, please? --Septembermorgen (talk) 11:43, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Honestly, not super-inclined; there have been all of a dozen edits in the last three years and none of those based on edit requests. It seems like this template is updated only every once in a while, so the occasional edit request is not going to be a huge burden. Primefac (talk) 12:41, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
None of the edits in the past 11 years, since the existence of the template, have been vandalism. Your are prohiting those people from editing who update this template regularly. --Septembermorgen (talk) 13:34, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
It is a high-use (and thus high-risk) template that has been edited less than 50 times in those 11 years. That being said, not quite sure why it got the protection level upped from ECP... Primefac (talk) 17:48, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Just wanted to inform that I created {{medRxiv}} template similar to {{bioRxiv}} for usage/citing medRxiv preprints. Please review for improvements (if any). Thank you. Run n Fly (talk) 18:04, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Given that they're nearly identical, I'm not really sure what advice I can give. Primefac (talk) 18:13, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The da Vinci Barnstar
Awarded to Primefac for excellent work in the useful addition of the "affiliation" parameter to the Fraternity infobox. You do so much work in coding, repairing and resolving the more intricate administrative and tecnical puzzles, far more than most of us realize. I wanted to say thank you. Jax MN (talk) 02:17, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! Primefac (talk) 12:18, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Twinkle needed on KS Wiki

Hey @Primefac, Hope you are doing well. First of all sorry to bother you. I am currently working on KS Wiki but we really miss twinkle. If you could please help us to get twinkle on that wiki, It would be helpful. Thankyou and Happy Editing. 😊. signed, Iflaq (talk) 17:18, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

I'm not really involved with Twinkle; I see you've posted at Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#Twinkle_for_KS_Wikipedia, which is the best place to ask. Primefac (talk) 17:24, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

AfC Participants

Hi Primefac, Thanks for adding me. Could you please remove me from that list? Currently, I may not review pending pages due to some works. I'll request once I'm free. Thanks in advance Hasan (talk) 04:22, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Primefac (talk) 10:12, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello Primefac, i hope you do not think that i have committed vandalism. I tried to solve an nbsp syntax problem, and my edit comment line expressed that i was not confident whether the problems were solved with it. Thanks. --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 05:39, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

The thought never crossed my mind. Primefac (talk) 09:33, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Articles for Creation July 2021 Backlog Elimination Drive

Hello Primefac:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running until 31 July 2021.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.
There is currently a backlog of over 1200 articles, so start reviewing articles. We're looking forward to your help!

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for Creation at 21:54, 7 July 2021 (UTC). If you do not wish to recieve future notification, please remove your name from the mailing list.

Need for help

Hello Mr. Primefac. I hope you are doing well. A user named A.A Prinon is misbehaving with me and is also threatening me that he will get me blocked. Can you help me in this regard? It would be extremely nice if you had helped. Waiting for your reply, friend. Thanks. Chynapras (talk) 09:53, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Primefac, please ignore this message. They have started personal attacks on me, and I just warned them. How can they say it "threatening". Please see [1]. They are saying that I should have shame. So, I just warned them to stop, how can it be a "threatening". I am just getting them familiar with our policies. Thanks.  A.A Prinon  Leave a dialogue 09:56, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
A.A Prinon, I know you mean well, but I think it's time to let Cynapras be for a bit. You're both new users, and from what I'm seeing in this discussion you're close to beating a dead horse with regard to the issues you have encountered. Throwing around vague "you'll be blocked" warnings to a user a month newer than you might seem helpful, given your own edit history, but it does come across as inappropriate.
Chynapras, on the above note, though, please do take in mind the general comments brought to your attention. If you are being reverted multiple times for edits you make (especially if it's from multiple individuals), there is always the possibility that you are making unhelpful contributions.
It's always a good idea to discuss the issues and try not to get heated in situations like these. Primefac (talk) 19:30, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Mr. Primefac, thank you very much for your wise decision. Appreciate you and your much needed wise decision. Thanks for your help. And Mr. Prinon, mind your own business. If I have wanted a help from my brother like senior editor, what's the problem here? Why are you telling him to ignore my message? I thought our rivalry ended but you don't seem to leave me alone. MR. Primefac, could you please tell or warn Mr. Prinon to leave me alone? It would be another great help from you. Thanks. 👉Chynapras👈 (talk) 19:42, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
And Mr. Prinon was the first who started to threat me by saying he will block me. You can see our replies by using the link Mr. Prinon left above. Thank you. 👉Chynapras👈 (talk) 19:43, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
And Mr. Prinon is also misinterpreting me. I didn't tell him to have shame. I just told him that it's a shane cause me, as a junior than him, told him that it's a shane that he's getting a speech from a junior editor like me. Cause, he made a mistake himself and told me to learn real vandalism. He was supporting vandalism like he didn't know anything cause everyone knows Ben Stokes is not a regular captain. I just edited the vandalism to correct one and he, reverted back my edits to the vandalism and was telling me that I learn real vandalism first. 👉Chynapras👈 (talk) 19:48, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
And one last word for Mr. Prinon, you used the word block just to threat me. Nothing else. Mr. Primefac, please don't believe his silly lies. I have proof. 👉Chynapras👈 (talk) 19:50, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
I've been watching your talk page and know exactly what's going on, so please don't feel like I'm being persuaded or hoodwinked in any way. Primefac (talk) 19:52, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Mr. Primefac, I just want to end this rivalry and this matter with Mr. Prinon. I already apologized to him but he didn't stop. You can see on my user page that I apologized to him. I just want to end this matter here. That's all. But I just hope that everyone gets juctice, including me if Mr. Prinon did something wrong with me or Mr. Prinon should get justice if I did something wrong with him. That's all. That's the end of the matter here. Thank you. No more wars or fighting. Peace! 👉Chynapras👈 (talk) 19:59, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi there! Is there away to get the first names to show first on this template? I think its the only one that seems to have last name first. Thanks! Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:07, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Sure, though I'm pretty sure the specific bit of code is actually in {{FIBA player}}. Primefac (talk) 12:14, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
So the FIBA player template has to be changed? Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 20:45, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
Yup. Primefac (talk) 21:05, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
Is that a change that needs a discussion done first? Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 01:10, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
If it's the only (or even one of the only) templates that swaps the name order, then it wouldn't need discussion because you're just bringing it in line with similar templates. Primefac (talk) 01:22, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
As far as I know it is the only team sport template like that. So do you mind going ahead and making the change? Thanks in advance!! Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 01:50, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 Done, I checked a few pages to make sure there weren't any glaring errors, but please let me know if something weird happens. Primefac (talk) 22:15, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Look great to me! Thanks!! Will keep an eye out for any errors. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:34, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Request for input

Hello, hope all is well. Are you able to comment at an open BN thread? –xenotalk 02:25, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

I've been keeping an eye on it. Still processing. Primefac (talk) 09:31, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

A request

Can you please delete my userpage, i don't want to write anything in it, so it is better to stay blank that should be deleted. ~ Itsskv08 (Talk) 17:58, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Primefac (talk) 18:02, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Help with expansion depth limit

Hi Primefac! I've recently been made aware (link to talk message) that my edits to {{Infobox administration}} (and the two child templates, /seal and /seal/if) appear to have exceeded the expansion depth limit, thus categorising all transclusions of the infobox template in a tracking category. I've reviewed most instances and I'm yet to find any rendering issues, so I'm not really sure how to resolve this. Please help, thank you, ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 04:03, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

I will take a look as soon as I can. Primefac (talk) 16:48, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
I think I've now managed to fix the issue. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 06:07, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
Glad to hear it, sorry I couldn't be of more help (summer always seems busier than the school year...). Primefac (talk) 09:58, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

AWB access

Hi, I can't seem to log in? I'm just being told that "I'm not able to use this". I did hear about a new JSON checkpage (which I'm not on) though. Vukky🌞 (talkctb • not a bot) 22:19, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay in replying. There are currently two lists, and they're not quite in sync yet. Should happen in the next day or two. Primefac (talk) 17:34, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Request for undeletion

Hello, I am the Wikimedian in Residence at the Society of Antiquaries of Scotland and we have been working with a university to train some students in how to edit Wikipedia. We are working with local museums to expand or create new pages for their museum/heritage site. One of the pages created as part of that training was - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aberdeen_Treasure_Hub which you deleted with a G12 - from what I can tell there was some possible copying instead of surmising some of sources. Would it be possible to either:

a. restore it so it could be used as a teaching moment for the students on how to correctly surmise and not violate copyright. As soon as it is restored I will go in and fix whatever copyright issues might exist and we can use it as a teaching moment.

b. if it was too bad in terms of copyright, could I get a copy of the page and we will start again from scratch using that copy as a discussion point. Thank you. DougRM (talk) 16:03, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

I'm happy to email you a copy of the page, but restoration of copyright violations on Wikipedia is not something I'm willing to do, even temporarily. Primefac (talk) 16:47, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
Yes Sent. Primefac (talk) 09:43, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Help

Hi Primefac, I think you are safe and healthy in this global pandamic. A few days ago I had created this user page to use Disam Assist.How can i use this to fix Disambiguation link? Please help me. Thank you !Fade258 (talk) 06:56, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

I have never used the tool, so I likely know just as much as you do. I would start with reading through User:Qwertyytrewqqwerty/DisamAssist, and if that's not enough to figure it out maybe try asking at the help desk or Teahouse. Sorry I can't be of more help. Primefac (talk) 13:37, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Another favour regarding infobox country at games

Moved to Template talk:Infobox country at games#Officials parameter at 13:43, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi there, is it possible for the officials to display above the medal totals? It sort of looks out of place under the medal totals. Can the title of officials also be renamed to officials/coaches (or another name that encompasses both of them)? From reading team releases they seem to be clumped into one group. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 23:17, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

I've shifted this to the template talk, as I think it could use further discussion. Of course, we might be the only two who comment, but there's still the possibility of extra input. Primefac (talk) 13:43, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi Primefac — my bot task 1A completed its trial (BRFA) a month ago, but no BAG member has commented on it. I added Template:BAG assistance needed after two weeks, but still nothing happened. Could you please review it? Thanks, Tol | talk | contribs 17:53, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Weird. I'll try to get to it as soon as I can, been rather busy the last few days. Primefac (talk) 00:38, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
No problem; thank you so much! Tol | talk | contribs 03:10, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

admins or editors

Hi Primefac, since relistings are allowed not only by admins but also by regular editors, why did you revert my edit which changed administrator to editor? I'm not angry about it, just curious. Let me know! Dr. Universe (talk) 19:15, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

The paragraph in question at WP:XFD is discussing deletion discussion in which there is no or minimal participation. It is perfectly appropriate for any editor to relist a discussion under these circumstances, but in the case where it is evaluated by the closing administrator as an expired PROD, it is being evaluated with the intention to delete the page. Now, the closing administrator may decide that "an expired PROD would not be deleted" and relist the discussion, but since the other option is "delete this page" then an administrator is the only one that would be making that evaluation. Primefac (talk) 19:28, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

About rollback rights

Hello Primefac, Will you please check my account and tell if I can apply for rollback rights. ~ Itsskv08 (talk) 14:50, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Genuinely couldn't say, as I don't even know the reqs for rollback. Sorry. Primefac (talk) 15:06, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Non-free images being transcluded by template

Hi Primefac. Is there some way to stop the four non-free files being discussed User talk:JJMC89#Transclusion of non-free files here from being transcluded into User:SalFromOuterSpace/sandbox that doesn't involve completely or partially blanking that user's sandbox. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:10, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

My immediate thought is to just blank the page because there's no reason for them to be transcluding those pages. My second thought is to just noinclude the images, which I've done in the meantime. JJMC89 might have other ideas. Primefac (talk) 10:07, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for taking a look at this. I tried WP:NOINCLUDE with one of the images, but it didn't seem to work. I probably just messed up the syntax somehow since it seems to have worked for you. I also thought about blanking the page since the only edits made with the account were to that sandbox, but I wanted to see if there was another less intrusive option first. -- Marchjuly (talk) 20:47, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
What you did should have worked for that image; I'm guessing that there was a cache issue when you went back to that sandbox which was why it still showed up. I guess (to look at the question of "why did the user do this") it comes down to why they did it; I see little to no valid reason to transclude an entire article to a sandbox and then do nothing with it, so if there were such a case with many different pages or many images it would probably make more sense to just blank the offending transclusions. Primefac (talk) 22:01, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
The “cache issue” probably explains why it didn’t work for me; I should’ve tried purging the page. My bad. As for the other thing, I agree with you, but thought it might be a bit BITEy to blank the sandbox so quickly at the time. At this point, though, that probably makes more sense given that it’s been almost a week and there’s no indication given why such a thing was done in the first place. — Marchjuly (talk) 23:01, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Could This Diff Be Redacted From History ?

Following a report I filed at ANI, They doxxed themselves and exposed very private material, could this part of their message to me see diff be redacted? I believe the original entry is this. Celestina007 (talk) 23:59, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Primefac (talk) 00:17, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. Celestina007 (talk) 01:21, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Bot mistake

Hey, Primefac. Check for two mistakes the bot did on Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 1 (diff) and Part 2 (diff), where it wikilinked Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows in the infobox title. —El Millo (talk) 03:30, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Also on Harry Potter (film series) (diff), wikilinking Harry Potter in the infobox title. —El Millo (talk) 03:33, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
It's an edge case that I thought I had taken care of. I'll see if I can tweak my code further. Primefac (talk) 09:50, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

The bot converted part of the filename text in the Infobox image field into a wikilink, breaking the image in the Infobox. See Down on the Farm (1920 film)([2] diff) —Lent (talk) 04:54, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

See previous comment. Primefac (talk) 09:50, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! Lent (talk) 19:10, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Issue has been fixed; if something similar happens in titles starting with L (or later) please let me know, otherwise... just fix it? I did find a few that needed manual correction but I might have missed something. Primefac (talk) 23:35, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Another similar mistake in Man of Steel (diff), where it made a link within a link (turned [[Lists of DC Comics characters|Characters]] to [[Lists of [[DC Comics]] characters|Characters]]). It also put a link in a hidden comment, which isn't a problem in itself, but that made it remove the link in its first actual occurrence below the hidden comment. —El Millo (talk) 01:11, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
Ugh. I don't know if I can fix that issue, but I'll pause and take another look. Primefac (talk) 01:24, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

"ROC at the Summer Olympics" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect ROC at the Summer Olympics. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 30#ROC at the Summer Olympics until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. King of ♥ 14:22, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of All Z-number templates

All Z-number templates have been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Mathglot (talk) 21:18, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Template:Syrian Civil War template box discussion

Hello, I was wondering if you could remove the semi-protected status of the Syrian civil war template. I would like to make some edits to the template (specifically, adding one more campaignbox for the time after the second Idlib offensive, as there hasn't been much fighting), but I cannot, since I am an IP and I also cannot make an account for various reasons. It would be greatly appreciated. 2601:85:C101:C9D0:CD24:7951:BFD1:2004 (talk) 15:44, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

I can understand your interest in helping to improve this template, but I do not think I should be removing that protection; the primary reason for this is because of the number of transclusions and the fact that this is exactly the sort of template that originally prompted the semi-automatic protection of templates with more than a certain number of transclusions; the pages to which it is transcluded would be perfect targets for something inflammatory or inappropriate for the vandal to change, with a huge disruptive factor. I think your best option is to make edit requests on the template talk page. Primefac (talk) 11:23, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Template:User ocd

Hi Primefac. I'm pretty sure Template:User ocd qualifies for speedy deletion, but I'm just not sure which criterion. It's possible this user was attempting to create a WP:UBX in good faith; however, it's also just as possible (based upon some of the edits the account has made so far) that this is someone just messing around and was created for no purpose other than to be a WP:VOA account. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:09, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

I actually do not believe it qualifies for any sort of speedy deletion, as even WP:G2/test would be stretching it. I do, however, agree with you that it's some sort of good-faith attempt to make a userbox, which I've now moved to their userspace. Primefac (talk) 11:54, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for looking at this. Whatever they were trying to do with that template, they seem to have found Template:User OCD and used that instead. Whatever was going on probably doesn't matter now since they've been indefinitely blocked and most likely aren't going to be be coming back anytime soon after posting this. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:20, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
Ugh. I did wonder why no one had created a "this user has OCD" userbox, and I can't believe that I didn't think to check the all-caps version; I suppose the alternate would have been to redirect the "ocd" version to the "OCD" version. Oh well, your point about coming back from this makes the situation rather moot. Primefac (talk) 13:39, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2021).

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC is open to add a delay of one week from nomination to deletion for G13 speedy deletions.

Technical news

  • Last week all wikis were very slow or not accessible for 30 minutes. This was due to server lag caused by regenerating dynamic lists on the Russian Wikinews after a large bulk import. (T287380)

Arbitration

Miscellaneous


Question

Is it okay to grant me page mover rights permanently? I know I haven't used it in a few weeks, but I would like to continue helping out at WP:RM/TR. Nobody has been critical of my work. Scorpions13256 (talk) 23:55, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

You're welcome to put up your request at the usual locations; I generally prefer to have other eyes along with my own for extension requests. Primefac (talk) 00:46, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Help needed for Module:Country alias

Hello, I am from bnwiki. If you have time, please take a look at this: I recently imported Module:Country alias on bnwiki. We use Bengali numerals there, so i did a little bit of modification[3]. Everything is working but for some reason {{flagIOCteam|ROC|২০২০ গ্রীষ্মকালীন}} (২০২০ গ্রীষ্মকালীন = 2020 Summer) isn't working there, even with {{flagIOCteam|ROC|2020 গ্রীষ্মকালীন}}. My understanding of lua is almost zero. Could you please help me to fix it? I think, We need to convert ২০২০ গ্রীষ্মকালীন to 2020 গ্রীষ্মকালীন (e.g. like this). but i am not sure in which line i need apply the convert module. Please feel free to edit following page:

--আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 19:41, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

I really apologise, but I have zero idea how to make that work, as my understanding of Bengali is almost zero. If I had to guess, though, I doubt it's an issue with the "2020" variants if it's working in other places. Could it possibly be the "ROC" that is either not translating or mistranslating somehow? Primefac (talk) 21:27, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. After two hours of "trying every combination", i finally got it. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 02:07, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
Glad to hear it, and sorry I couldn't be of more help. Primefac (talk) 09:57, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

So I decided to bring back the square and compass

In as much as the freemasonry UB offends certain people I just realized that I too am a human being and should be able to express myself(positively). And to think I wanted it OS'ed from history??? Jeez thanks that didn’t go as planned. Celestina007 (talk) 15:15, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Cool. Primefac (talk) 01:20, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Lincoln High School, Tallahassee, Florida

The 1967 date for closure appears to be inaccurate. The article for the school shows a monument which shows the dates of its operation from 1869 to 1969. The year 1969 is also consistent with other efforts to desegregate the Florida school system. Since you reverted my notation, what is your authority for 1967?97.124.250.127 (talk) 19:04, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

I have never edited Lincoln High School (Tallahassee, Florida), so I'm not really sure why you're saying I did. Do you have the correct editor? Primefac (talk) 01:20, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Only edit by an IP and it included an email address in the edit summary. Looking at WP:REVDEL it looks like that would be deletable as personal information. The edit itself was fine, just the summary. —Locke Coletc 18:24, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

It should, thanks. Best to email Oversight in the future, though, as it will make requests like these less obvious watching my page. Primefac (talk) 18:26, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
Will do, thanks! —Locke Coletc 18:37, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi, can you add "HRV" to Module:Country alias/data? See the LUA error on page List of IOC country codes. --Sb008 (talk) 09:48, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

No, but I can roll back the vandalism. Primefac (talk) 09:54, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
Fine too --Sb008 (talk) 22:39, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Help

Hi @Primefac:, I think you are safe there. Can you tell me, If any new IP or Registered user had removed or delete sourced content from BLP but not add anything at that time on their first edit then what should we consider i.e delete1, vandalism1, or unsourced1. Damak15 (talk) 10:54, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

If it's removal without explanation, then {{uw-delete1}} would be the appropriate warning. Primefac (talk) 17:19, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Invitation to join discussion

Hello. Just wanna stop by and invite you to join this Olympic related discussion if you are interested. --阿pp (talk) 04:11, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Help! AFC username changed

Hi, I hope this finds you well. Please change my AFC username from M-Mustapha to the present name (Em-mustapha) because I recently renamed it and when I try to review AFC the script is not displaying, it says, "AFCH could not be loaded because "Em-mustapha" is not listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Participants." Thank you. The Living love talk 00:06, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Primefac (talk) 12:42, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Oops

Thanks for noting the MOS:PRESENT style rule on Live from Here. I wasn't aware of it, but now I am. Pha telegrapher (talk) 16:27, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

No worries. Primefac (talk) 21:45, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Please look

See here. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:25, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Seen, thanks. Primefac (talk) 21:45, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

redaction of my comment

Am I even allowed to know who did it? Or is that sort of basic decency forbidden by WMF? DuncanHill (talk) 23:40, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Depends on the situation, but most of the time I would say "no" (unless you see an edit by an OSer that immediately follows a suppression, which more often than not indicates who removed the content). I've replied at GN's talk explaining my actions. Primefac (talk) 23:54, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
It is grossly uncivil to redact somebody's comments and not let them know who did it or how to appeal. Nearly as bad as lying to someone, and far worse than calling them names. I've replied about the other thing there. DuncanHill (talk) 00:23, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Everything OS-related, particularly how to file a complaint, is at Wikipedia:Oversight#Complaints. Primefac (talk) 00:27, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Ah, I must have missed you telling me about that when you redacted my truthful comments DuncanHill (talk) 00:31, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
I find it highly unlikely that any OS member that does a suppression is going to post an entire template's worth of comments every time they suppress something, since the entire point is to not draw attention to something (and OSPOL isn't exactly a secret page). Primefac (talk) 00:35, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Even "Suppressed by OS (contact here)" would obviously be too much like treating people with decency hard work obvious. DuncanHill (talk) 00:38, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

While we're on the subject, just how many of you are monitoring my edits? It was a very fast redaction , much faster than any far more obnoxious posts I've reported to Oversight. DuncanHill (talk) 00:41, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

I can honestly say that I do not recall a time when I looked at your edit contributions, even tonight. Someone came into #wikipedia-en-revdel connect on IRC, asked for suppression, and I obliged. A page like GN's likely has a large number of watchers, which is how that individual saw your edit. Primefac (talk) 00:45, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Ah, the off-wiki places to deal with on-wiki issues. Without any on-wiki discussion, and with nobody on-wiki being allowed to know who did it. "Someone" presumably being someone who thinks the kind of attacks I and BHG have endured were justified. I know you'll never let me know who "someone" is. DuncanHill (talk) 00:53, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Telluraves template

How can I change this template? Template:Taxonomy/Telluraves

I need to change Inopinavis for Passerea according to the phylogeny of Braun & Kimball (2021). Prum et al. (2015) is a litte bit obsolete at this point.--Ornithodiez (talk) 00:49, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Is there any sort of consensus for this change/update? I'm wary of changing template families like these without a discussion to point to. Primefac (talk) 10:05, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
I don't know if there is a consensus about Inopinavis, but we keep pretty updated the phylogeny of Neoaves and birds in general. I think that we reached a small a consensus with the phylogeny of Kuhl et al. (2020) if I remember correctly, so no novel clade like Inopinaves (only one study in 2015). It's very obsolete like Metaves or Coronaves and specially after Braun & Kimball (2021) that show many polytomies but "zones of certainties" (like Passerea). Hoatzin has always been extremely problematic so the same goes for this group Inopinavis.--Ornithodiez (talk) 18:05, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Creating an Article about Nikka Starr

Hi Primefac, i would like to ask if i could create an article about Nikka Starr — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itisthebio (talkcontribs) 00:58, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Assuming that she meets WP:GNG (and you have everything you need to write an article) then I see no reason why someone couldn't create an article on her. Given that I have no idea who she is, though, I couldn't say outright whether it's a definite yes or no. Primefac (talk) 13:13, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you!

Primefac, Thank you! I have reviewed your edits and noted they are very good! Ponydices (talk) 14:27, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Um... thanks? Not really sure what edits you're referring to, but I'm always happy to be doing good work I guess. Primefac (talk) 14:36, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
For being the one to respond to most of my oversight requests. Good work. Scorpions13256 (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Aww, thanks. Just trying to do my fair share. :-) Primefac (talk) 20:51, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Question (AWB)

I purchased a new laptop, my previous one crashed and everything in it wiped off. My question is, how do I reinstall AWB in my new laptop? Celestina007 (talk) 10:40, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Same way that you installed it the first time? See here for the download link and basic instructions. If you need further assistance let me know. Primefac (talk) 12:58, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Ah! Thanks !!!! Celestina007 (talk) 15:42, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! I just tried it out and it works just fine. Thanks once again. Celestina007 (talk) 07:49, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
Glad to hear it! Primefac (talk) 09:52, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Warning

Hi @Primefac:, Please tell me this a test edit or vandalism, whereas this is editor's first edit. Please respond as soon as possible. Fade258 (talk) 11:13, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Couldn't say, as it's difficult to tell from a one-off edit. If we AGF then calling it "unconstructive" is more than sufficient. Without a pattern of many similar edits it isn't really possible to tell if it was a mistake, test, vandalism, or something else entirely. Primefac (talk) 11:47, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Clarification of WP:AFCP permission decline

I was wondering if you could clarify this [4] decline you did of User:TrangaBellam's AfC permission request. Specifically, the part about having too many WP:DSALERTs. Could you clarify what you meant when you declined based on "multiple DS alerts"? Chess (talk) (please use {{reply to|Chess}} on reply) 03:28, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Have you, Primefac, checked the validity of the issued warnings? ARBIPA is a highly contentious zone and most of the issuers have ended up blocked or topic-banned. (Administrator @RegentsPark: might have some thoughts.) TrangaBellam (talk) 06:04, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
The latest two warnings are from Learn Indology and Kylo Ren III. The latter apologized for mistakenly reverting me (and abusing the templated warning). The former has a history of edit-warring to push POV content and weaponising 3RR; see 3RR archives for multiple threads concerning him. It is to be also noted that the talk-page discussion was in my favor.
Going back, there are two aggressive threads by Safron710 and অভিরূপ দাশশর্মা. Both have been indefinitely blocked on my request.
Then, a warning by Run n fly, who has been since discovered to be the sockpuppet of a notoriously tendentious user (and blocked). Old users note that his previous username used to display the same behavior, I was subject to.
Before that, two warnings by LukeEmily. We have colloborated in other articles since then and you can ping them to ask what they (currently) think of their old heat-of-the-moment warnings. TrangaBellam (talk) 06:25, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
FWIW, I don't see TrangaBellam as a problem editor. Quite the contrary, actually. --RegentsPark (comment) 17:03, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
I can take a second look. As far as the DS comment, I know that alerts are not any sort of indication of wrongdoing, but rarely have I found them placed as anything other than a warning. I will also note that at the time of the decline, a few now-blocked users were not blocked, so I cannot comment on that part because clearly there was no obvious wrongdoing on the part of said now-blocked editor. Primefac (talk) 17:09, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
It was mainly concerning to me to see DS alerts treated as a warning in an official capacity when granting a pseudopermission. I get that DS alerts are basically used as warnings but officially they're not so it's concerning to see them sort of officially being treated as warnings. It also might cause systemic bias issues given that some groups of people have broader DS areas than others, e.g. all India related articles are covered under DS. Chess (talk) (please use {{reply to|Chess}} on reply) 17:30, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
That's fair, and I will keep that in mind going forward, though you will note that my reasons included other issues in combination with those DS alerts, so it was less of a singular issue and more of a "this is one of a relatively long list of things." That being said, though, I do get where you're coming from. Primefac (talk) 17:33, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
That's why I only mentioned the DS alerts. Wasn't saying the decline was unjustified, just that I disagree with the DS alerts being factored into it. Chess (talk) (please use {{reply to|Chess}} on reply) 19:13, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
Gotcha. Primefac (talk) 19:17, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

User:Anaplastic large cell lymphoma

Hi @Primefac: Came across this while helping editor user:Joflaher at the Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). They created the article and executed a copy from sandbox to the wrong namespace. There is also the main article in article space Anaplastic large-cell lymphoma and there is a redirect Anaplastic large cell lymphoma. Thankfully the redirect stopped the page move when I attempted it. I think you can probably just need a delete on the user, as the redirect and the main article look ok. Can you fix it please. scope_creepTalk 22:17, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

It seems to be more complex, the revision history has been damaged. The editor has been copying the articles to a sandbox, editing them and copying them wholesale back to the article, overwriting the previous one. There seems to be quite a few of them. Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#How do I free up my sandbox? scope_creepTalk 10:28, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
I should be able to take a deeper look at this tomorrow. Primefac (talk) 23:47, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
Or... Sunday. Primefac (talk) 21:08, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
Looks like Anthony Appleyard managed to get everything sorted. Primefac (talk) 20:10, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Buggy edit

Hello. Your bot made a buggy edit and left a }}. Veverve (talk) 09:51, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, was likely the quad } that did it; wasn't expecting templates inside the template call. Primefac (talk) 09:59, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

I believe you deleted some revisions from One UI from a now blocked IP. They came back and did it again so this revision may need to be deleted as well. Notfrompedro (talk) 17:22, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, RD'd. Primefac (talk) 17:26, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Sept 2021

I'd like to draw your attention to the words at the top of the RFA talk page. "The RfA talk page serves to unclutter the main RfA page by hosting discussions that are not germane to the candidacy." Which rather contradicts the reason you gave for reverting me.

Worse, my edit wasn't irrelvent to the RfA. "Nazi" appears 45 times on the main page. It's the big talking point of the whole RfA. An alternative perspective on the candidates noNazi position ought to be valued. The candidate can ignore it if they chose, but there is always a chance they might find it a useful.

I'm not asking you to undo your revert. Under the circumstances it's most amusing, and nicly underlines part of my point. But do please try to be a little more thoughful in any future clerking - I'd expect better of even a veteran editor, let alone a crat. And while we're at it, if you are actually a crat, kindly consider displaying the fact on your user page like everyone else. Or at least that you're an admin - newer editors may not know what an overighter is. Thank you. FeydHuxtable (talk) 22:12, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

A single sentence without context is meaningless; the sentence immediately preceding it finishes "...sometimes discussions stray off-topic or otherwise clutter that page. This provides the context for what should be on the talk page: things that are related to the RFA but are not necessarily appropriate or necessary for the engagement and further interest of the participants on the main page. Often these are criticisms of an oppose that end up going off-tangent, issues with syntax (generally bot-related) or similar. Your (self-described) rant offers little to nothing in the context of the RFA and thus has no place on its talk page. Incidentally, this is exactly why I chose the wording I did when undoing your edit. Primefac (talk) 22:49, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) @FeydHuxtable, hey, I believe you can make your point or case without the snarky remarks which come off as rather condescending. Furthermore this is not a helpful edit summary. Celestina007 (talk) 23:05, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
@Celestina, I think you're really sweet, thank you for advising me. I'd already typed out my replay to Primefac before I read it, there's a good chance your point on condescendion will sink in later though. And yes in hindsight you're right that a non obvious ironic / humerous edit summary is rarely helpful on wikipedia. ( I don't really think we need to say anything more to each other at this stage, but in case you think differently, you're extremely welcome on my talk, I'd rather not post here again for a while.) FeydHuxtable (talk) 23:30, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Meta templates

Just thought I'd say thanks for starting the discussion. It's been on my mind for a while that it's a very inefficient way of doing things. Also, please don't take anything I say as being against the proposal to get rid of them – I agree we should – I just think it's worth having a very thorough discussion about the best way to do it. Cheers, Number 57 13:56, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Totally get it. I try to be as thorough as possible in my nominations and someone always points out something I missed. Healthy discussion is a good thing! Primefac (talk) 14:05, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Recreation of a page

Recreation of a page [5] that was deleted previously [6] as created by a banned user in violation of block or ban. TheChronium 16:40, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

TheChronium, Phaans is not currently blocked. If you think this is a sockpuppet recreating the page, then you should file an SPI to have that checked. If they are socking, then a {{db-g5}} tag is the way to proceed. Primefac (talk) 21:35, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. I have launched a spi to have that checked. TheChronium 14:12, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
Just a heads up, I have added another suspect sock to the SPI. Pinging @TheChronium: for their awareness as well. Note, I am sure I mucked up the indenting there so anyone is welcome to fix. :) S0091 (talk) 18:25, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

 You are invited to join the discussion at Template talk:Infobox basketball biography § Use of arrows. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:51, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Primefac. Would you mind taking a look at this? Perhaps you could suggest something which might work. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:52, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Are you admin? can you confirm me?

Hello. I saw that you locked the Battle of Parwan page. I do not register a user since this is a public computer (my work), you can take a look at my contributions. I do not vandalise or edit randomly, I even discuss when a conflict arises. Overwhelming Majority of my contributions are there and they greatly expanded the relevant pages.

Can you confirm me? Here are some of the pages I expanded: Sean Carroll, Battle of Indus, Battle of Parwan.

I will inform to delete confirmation once I abandon using this computer --81.213.215.83 (talk) 05:13, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Also, this is the page I created and vastly expanded: Battle near the Irghiz River. --81.213.215.83 (talk) 05:32, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

If you cannot create an account, you should request changes be made on the article's talk page using {{SPER}}. Primefac (talk) 10:37, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Is there a mechanism for this?

I’m pretty sure I’ve asked you this before but please forgive my re-asking if I have asked about this before, is there a script or a mechanism that keeps track of articles accepted at AFC by a specific editor with the afc pseudo rights? Celestina007 (talk) 00:59, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Does this work for your needs? Best, Usedtobecool ☎️ 05:30, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
I think they're looking for this, but yours is a good way for just-accepts. Primefac (talk) 10:35, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Ah, thanks! I didn't know about it, but is great. Usedtobecool ☎️ 13:29, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
@Usedtobecool thanks guys I’m taking no chances so I’m going to be optimizing both. Celestina007 (talk) 13:32, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

August 2021

This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.

You have shown interest in Eastern Europe or the Balkans. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.

Chess (talk) (please use {{reply to|Chess}} on reply) 17:28, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Um... Chess, I think when you checked you missed a spot. Primefac (talk) 18:17, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Ironically, according to WP:AWARE solely being a member of ArbCom doesn't make you aware of the sanctions that ArbCom has authorized. You have to participate in a process about the area of conflict at ArbCom. I checked ARCA, Arbitration requests, and AE (the places mentioned at WP:AWARE) and you haven't been publicly involved in ArbCom cases related to Eastern European related issues in the past twelve months which means you're eligible for a DS-notice. Given your recent edits to FR Yugoslavia at the Olympics I thought I'd be the change I wanted to see in the world w/r/t DS alerting being applied fairly and throw a DS-notice at you (although you're right that I did forget to check the ArbCom members list; I initially thought you were an Arb but checked your userpage and you didn't mention it). For what it's worth this is a one-time thing and I'm not going to disruptively spam ArbCom members talkpages with DS-alerts. Chess (talk) (please use {{reply to|Chess}} on reply) 22:59, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Fair enough. I figured those edits were what it was for, since I knew I wasn't getting any edit wars or bad behaviour (and of course, as the DS says, this is a notice not a warning). For the record I have no issue with being "alerted", mostly I was amused that a sitting Arb is getting one! Primefac (talk) 23:05, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks!

I wanted to thank you for this. Procedural nominations are a thankless job, and I'm sure the piling-on might want to make you scream, "it's not my nomination, I'm just helping!" So I wanted to say thanks, for helping, and encourage you to keep up the good work. Stlwart111 12:29, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

I do what I can to help (or attempt to help) those that cannot help themselves (even if I already know the outcome). It is sometimes a thankless job, so I appreciate the sentiment. Primefac (talk) 14:24, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Z-number templates

How has the TFD notice been put on these pages? I can't find it to remove it. SpinningSpark 16:07, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

It's on the Z-number core template that gets transcluded to each page. To be honest, it's actually easier for me to leave it in place, as it flags the template when it shows up in edit summaries. Primefac (talk) 16:16, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2021).

Administrator changes

readded Jake Wartenberg
removed EmperorViridian Bovary
renamed AshleyyoursmileViridian Bovary

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The Score extension has been re-enabled on public wikis. It has been updated, but has been placed in safe mode to address unresolved security issues. Further information on the security issues can be found on the mediawiki page.

Arbitration

Miscellaneous


Add me on AFC participants

Please add on my AFC participated list, Primefac AnsrieJames9 (talk) 22:32, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

You are welcome to re-apply when you meet all of the criteria. Primefac (talk) 22:39, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Yes AnsrieJames9 (talk) 23:16, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Talk page banner bot?

Hi Primefac! I recently discovered that there are roughly 9000 pages that use {{Infobox university}} but aren't tagged with WikiProject Higher education. I'd like to set up a bot to go through and fix them all, but it's not quite as simple as using the AWB prepend function due to the presence of talk header and/or the project banner holder on some of these pages. On the Discord #technical channel, Izno vaguely recalled (although they weren't sure) that you may run a WP Adder Bot that could handle this. Is that the case, and if so, is this something with which you could help? Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}}talk 19:23, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

AnomieBOT has a task (WikiProjectTagger), which is likely what you're looking for. Primefac (talk) 20:01, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks; that's it! Anomie, is there documentation somewhere for how I activate the task, or is it something I need your assistance for? I just set up Category:Articles using infobox university. (Feel free to reply on my talk or somewhere else so we can stop bothering Primefac.) {{u|Sdkb}}talk 22:36, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
I have to do stuff to make it happen. Would you mind posting the relevant information on User talk:AnomieBOT with the info that the talk page header says to include? Not watching, ping if a reply is needed. Anomie 23:59, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi. Could you please add also "Winter appearances" in Italy at the Paralympics, for example like is in Sweden at the Paralympics? Thanks --Kasper2006 (talk) 06:02, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

 Done; Paralympic coverage is a little less consistent than Olympics coverage, so I'm mostly adding it as-needed. One suggestion I have, though, is that we probably don't need Italy at the Winter Paralympics as a standalone article; Italy at the Paralympics itself isn't very large and can easily handle the material from the Winter variant. Primefac (talk) 10:49, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Q13...

appears to a not-so-veiled implication that Blablubbs is a sock. It's also irrelevant to the RfA. I would strike it, but not being a bureaucrat...--Bbb23 (talk) 18:08, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, missed this in the bustle of yesterday. It's borderline inappropriate, and it probably is not in good faith (much like the accusations towards BU Rob back in the day), but the candidate has answered the question now so I don't think striking would be appropriate any more. Primefac (talk) 10:09, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Variables

In the 4 languages I know the best practice is always to declare a variable where its first assigned. This makes reading the code easier as you don't need to jump from the a random location in a function to the top and it also makes you more aware of your code. Here is an example for Lua. Gonnym (talk) 15:27, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Interesting. As I said in my edit summary, the way I was taught (which I don't think hits four languages but it's close) was to initialize everything first, and only save mid-program initializations for throwaway vars like in for loops. Granted, that hasn't stopped me from occasionally throwing in a var halfway through a block of code just for the ease of it, and most of the programs I was writing (or teach kids how to write) were short enough that I guess one wouldn't really need to worry about too much jumping.
I'm sure you'd be able to find just as many extant examples on-wiki of your method as I would be able to find of my method, so... how do we break the deadlock? Talk page watchers, any thoughts? Primefac (talk) 15:32, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Since you are handling this module and feel more comfortable with your style, that's fine by me so no deadlock here. Gonnym (talk) 15:37, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Cool, thanks. I'll give your way some consideration in the future, though, as I can definitely see the potential benefits for longer programs. Primefac (talk) 15:39, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Review my article

Please how can I check the article process I submitted Samiyun (talk) 19:36, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

If you go to your contributions page you will see the pages you have edited; your draft will be listed and you can see on the page what (if any) messages or notices have been left for you. When a draft is declined, you will receive a notice on your talk page. Primefac (talk) 19:44, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Samiyun (talk) 20:02, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Page mover

Hi @Primefac:, Hope you are safe. On July 11, you had granted me the right of Page mover for 2 months which is expired tonight. I had requested on Page mover request page. Please make it permanent. Thank you!Fade258 (talk) 13:20, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

I'll get to it as soon as I can, lots going on at the moment. Primefac (talk) 13:23, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi. You reverted my speedy deletion request because the uploader had asserted fair-use. However, the fair-use claim is not permitted under WP:NFC#UULP because fair-use is not permitted for images living persons. Since I clearly can't find the correct way to tag this for deletion, can I ask you to do it correctly for me? The image needs to be deleted. Cheers, --SVTCobra 22:55, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

You are absolutely correct, and my apologies for making you do more work than is necessary. I dropped the ball on that one. Primefac (talk) 22:57, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Sheep

Some time ago you fixed a cut-paste move attempt at Dall sheep by moving it to Thinhorn sheep. In reviewing an editor's mass changes to articles containing Dall sheep as the term, it seems to me that the basis of the original change is at least ambiguous [7] Do you have any insight into he naming issue? Acroterion (talk) 14:30, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

No idea; I was just responding to the histmerge request when I noticed that there wasn't anything after the copy, so I just moved the page as it was. If there's concern about the move itself I am totally fine with it being restored to its original location and an RM started. Primefac (talk) 17:07, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

AFC script not working

I recently changed my username but I cant use the AFC script so put a request on Returning user. can you help me? Akevsharma (talk) 16:04, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Username updated on the list. Thanks. Primefac (talk) 16:22, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
thanks Akevsharma (talk) 16:27, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Liechtenstein

Hello! Can you check regarding the Flag of Liechtenstein in the Olympic Games from 1948 until 1980?. They used the flag until 1982 Flag of Liechtenstein (1937—1982).svg Yours sincerely, Sondre --62.73.207.204 (talk) 18:51, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Primefac (talk) 19:06, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

old moves template

Hello. I hope you are doing well.
One year ago, I started to work on Template:Old moves/doc/sandbox, but then my computer died. I wanted to make some changes to the template, documentation, and maybe-possibly to the Module:Old move as well (with proper discussion/consensus). I was thinking about getting back to it, but found out old move, and old moves are being merged. Do you know how much time would it take to finish the merging? I will start working on my ideas in personal sandbox, as well as on txt file on computer. Also, after the merger, what will happen to old move module? Also, no need to ping, I've been watching your page —usernamekiran (talk) 13:24, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

I've been the person slowly taking care of that merger. The main issue is that more manual work is required for the merger than anticipated. If you want to help out with the conversion feel free, otherwise I'll hopefully finish it in the next few months. --Trialpears (talk) 13:30, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
@Trialpears: I will be more than happy to chip in, I don't know how to do it though. I have used AWB, and quite good at it; and I am ready for the manual work too. Would you kindly tell me how to do it? —usernamekiran (talk) 14:29, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Let's see... It was a while ago I actually did work on this, but I believe there are two main things that need doing. First of all there are some template improvements needed. {{Old moves}} "support" both RM and MRV which should be added to the module. It can also link to relevant move logs and has collapse support (either for all or just a subset of RMs). Then there are the 400 odd pages that need updating. Most should be doable without the template updates (if I haven't already dealt with them, can't remember for sure), but it's probably more convenient to just wait so everything can be dealt with at once without tons of skipping. I have a decent AWB script, but by the nature of this template it isn't great and requires significant manual work with all the weird formats. I think the most helpful thing for me would be you helping out on the AWB run in a week or two when I should have managed all template changes, if you aren't super excited about module work. --Trialpears (talk) 23:53, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

So, in my (perhaps misguided) attempt to move Template:Idaho-geo-stub a level down into Category:Idaho stub templates; it seems that the transcluded pages now show up in Category:United States geography stub templates...which was not my intent at all...but I have tried at least 5 variations and they are still there...wondering if they really are NOT there? and it is some kind of purge issue? Any magic, "He who fixes all strange template issues"? - Mjquinn_id (talk) 21:19, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

If you're saying that pages like Beaverhead crater, which transclude {{Idaho-geo-stub}}, are showing up in the category, then I think it might have been a cache issue from when it was using includeonly instead of noinclude, but I think your recent changes have fixed the issue. Primefac (talk) 00:20, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
Exactly, I was just getting it in multiple browsers even after purge...Wanted to be sure before I fix the other 40-50 templates. Thanks! - Mjquinn_id (talk) 12:13, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

page move

Hi Primefac, yesterday you put me down as a page mover. To be honest I had only requested it for my own use, but after you suggested to try and deal with some requests, I decided to have a go.

I saw this request at Requested Moves. So what I did was, I made sure the request was valid and uncontroversial, then I moved the redirect out of the way, then I moved the article without leaving a redirect, then I requested the speedy deletion of the redirect under the db-moved criterion, and then I marked the request as done.

Is that all correct? Anything I should have done differently? Thanks, Dr. Vogel (talk) 12:32, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

The whole point of having page mover is that if there is a redirect in the way you can delete it without having to move it first. Primefac (talk) 12:34, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
That's what I thought too. But when I tried moving the article over the redirect, it didn't let me. Dr. Vogel (talk) 12:35, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
Gah, you're right; there has been a plan on the table for a while now to allow PGMs to delete redirect targets regardless of how many diffs there are, but I guess they haven't implemented it. In the future, the easiest way to deal with this with a page swap using the script. Primefac (talk) 12:38, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
I see, this hasn't been yet implemented. We can only delete single-revision redirects regardless of target which was implemented per this RfC. I don't know any discussion about "deleting redirect targets regardless of how many diffs there are..". I wish this happens soon! ─ The Aafī (talk) 12:49, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
Jeez, my memory is fading these days. That's what I was thinking of (clearly forgot that it was "regardless of target" not "regardless of diff count"). Thanks for the clarification. Primefac (talk) 12:54, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

AFC queries

I wish to review articles concerned with Netherland, Turkmenistan, and India. Any way to reach such drafts quickly? TrangaBellam (talk) 19:46, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

It's not perfect, but Wikipedia:AfC sorting probably has what you're looking for. Primefac (talk) 22:48, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Revdel request

Hi there, I was wondering if you could please revdel revision IDs 1044377587, 1044377488, and 1043596118 from Jack Dorsey. What the IP address wrote about him violates the BLP policy so much that it needs to be redacted. You will see exactly what I mean when you view the diffs. Thanks, Helen(💬📖) 22:44, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

 Done, thanks. Primefac (talk) 22:49, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
One of these edits has an edit summary I tried to revision delete but the system wouldn't let me because it had been oversighted. Can you hide that, too? You'll know which one. I'm surprised oversighting edits doesn't remove the edit summary, too. Liz Read! Talk! 00:10, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
It's not often that both the edit summary and content need suppression, so automatically doing both would be more problematic than helpful. That being said, it would be nice if admins could still RD stuff but I guess we can't get that granular when using radio buttons.
And I've hidden it, for the record. Primefac (talk) 00:17, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Help!

Hello, Primefac,

I hope you can assist with your technical knowledge. Draft:Testing is showing up on CSD G13 eligible pages (most recently on User:SDZeroBot/G13 eligible) and I'm not sure how to make it ineligible aside from making a dummy edit to it every 6 months. Should it be moved from Draft space to another area of the project? I don't think it's a mistake of SDZeroBot whose lists I work with daily...it's been operating since September 2020 and I haven't come across another page like this, one that is listed as eligible for deletion but apparently shouldn't be deleted. Thanks for any permanent solution you can offer. Liz Read! Talk! 00:07, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Last time it was used for dev purposes was '18, so I think it's safe to G13. If anyone needs it for those purposes they can recreate it. Primefac (talk) 00:13, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
I appreciate your decisiveness! Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 02:55, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Added a member of AFC

Primefac, clear this not done and make it to done on AFC participant request and add me AnsrieJames9 (talk) 11:28, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

AnsrieJames9, your responses here and at WT:AFCP are barely readable, and it is making me concerned that you lack the language proficiency to properly review drafts. Primefac (talk) 13:05, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Prohibited for 3 months plsss AnsrieJames9 (talk) 13:17, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Probation for 3 months plsss AnsrieJames9 (talk) 13:18, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

My AFC script is not working

Hi Primefac, my AFC script is not working. Can you help me plsss AnsrieJames9 (talk) 22:45, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

You have not been given access to use the script, which is why it is not working. Primefac (talk) 23:21, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Username added on AFC participants

Primefac, plsss my username updated on the AFC participant list AnsrieJames9 (talk) 00:37, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

In a word, no. Primefac (talk) 00:52, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Block WikiScientist

Hi Primefac, please block User:Wiki Scientist. AnsrieJames9 (talk) 01:06, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Because...? Primefac (talk) 01:08, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Not block AnsrieJames9 (talk) 05:46, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Huh?...Why?...Did I do something wrong? Wiki Scientist (talk) 11:24, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

That's why I asked. Primefac (talk) 11:53, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Luke Gage

Are you able to confirm why IMBD is not a reliable source? And why you've reverted each edit I've made to the article? I'm only trying to improve it and have never made a malicious edit on Wikipedia. Journalist . talk 19:52, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

WP:IMDB says it's not reliable. Same with WP:RSPAMAZON. The others are all user-generated and thus unreliable. It's nothing against you, it's just not good refs. Sorry to have to revert you again, but I will. Primefac (talk) 20:05, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
Is this site up to Wikipedia's standards (https://wowplus.net/the-unsaid-truth-about-lukas-gage/)? Because at this point, it's beginning to come across more bureaucratic than it needs to be. Journalist . talk 20:40, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
Best thing I've seen so far. Go for it. Primefac (talk) 20:45, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Review

Hi @Primefac:, I think you are the the New Page Reviewer. So, if then please review this page. Fade258 (talk) 17:02, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

By default of being an admin, yes, technically I am. I don't tend to do NPR on request, though. Primefac (talk) 17:06, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
Sorry for my misunderstanding. Fade258 (talk) 02:36, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
No worries, habit I picked up from the IRC help channels declining draft review requests. Primefac (talk) 10:24, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Template spacing weirdness

Could you please take a look at this? I thought I understood at least the basics of templates until I started wading into this lua/template hybrid stuff lol

Thanks much : ) - jc37 11:18, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Done, not much to see unfortunately (or fortunately, given there is no apparent issue). Primefac (talk) 11:32, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
Thank you very much : )
I left a followup question there if you have a moment. - jc37 11:46, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Rerun PrimeBOT 34?

Primefac, last year you created a bot to remove to cluttery tables from a bunch of college footbal articles; see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football/Archive 24#Overall record / Last meeting / Result tables. Seems that about 80 articles survived the purge or were hit with tables that replicated after the purge. Can we re-run the bot to wipe these last few out? Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 21:29, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry, I kinda forgot to keep up with those runs. I've got a huge run going right now, but I'll see if I can fit in those low-30s tasks. Primefac (talk) 21:31, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
I only see 1 page. Did someone else go through and fix them? If it was you, apologies for the delay, apparently 300k pages takes a bit longer to run through than I expected. Primefac (talk) 10:24, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
Hmm, no. I removed a couple and then just cleaned up 2021 North Carolina Tar Heels football team, but someone else must have done the other 80. I figured you had run the bot! Jweiss11 (talk) 12:59, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Please check this

Hello P. When you have a moment would you please check my work. In May of 2020 you created Category:Pages using infobox film with unknown empty parameters which a couple of us wikignomes have been chipping away at. Today I tried to create a corresponding cat for the Category:Pages using infobox person with unknown parameters. You can see it here Category:Pages using infobox person with unknown empty parameters. I have found that, in the same way that nature abhors a vacuum, editors are driven to fill empty fields so removing deprecated fields like residence and home town will help tp prevent that. I'm guessing that there are things I am unaware of to do these properly so any fixes you can perform will be appreciated. Thanks for your time. MarnetteD|Talk 15:55, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

 Done, the cat should start filling up shortly. Primefac (talk) 16:00, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Yep it is already filling up. I just knew there was an edit that needed to be made somewhere else :-) I notice that the infobox film cats are in Category:Film articles with infobox film issues. Should a cat like that be created for this new one? Many thanks for your help. MarnetteD|Talk 16:10, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Probably not strictly necessary, but I'm sure there are more category-savvy folks who will know the answer better. Primefac (talk) 16:13, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Sounds good. Your expertise is most helpful. MarnetteD|Talk 16:18, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Always happy to help. Primefac (talk) 16:21, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Undo explanation

I think better images are available and, if not, I'll get them personally...just like I did this one. Thanks for removing the edit summary. Buffs (talk) 20:16, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Fair enough, not really bothered what image (if any) is provided, I just reverted treating it as vandalism. Primefac (talk) 20:19, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

A Thank you

Hey there! Thank you for your message informing me about the bot, I didn't knew that! but anyways, thank you! Good day! :) HimuTheEditor (talk) 08:47, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

You're very welcome. Primefac (talk) 10:23, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Edit by PrimeBOT

I see that with this edit, PrimeBOT removed two things from an archive of my talk page. The things it removed were a template generating an eye image, and something invisible. No harm has been done; but I feel that archives should be preserved, warts and all, as a record of what happened. Could you dissuade PrimeBOT from acting on pages with "/archive" in the name? Maproom (talk) 06:36, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Minor point, but it removed a unicode space and a template that is in the process of being deleted. If the template wasn't deleted, then it would show up in database reports for "pages transcluding deleted templates" and removed by someone else. If the template actually did anything other than provide a placeholder, I would have likely commented it out using {{t}}. Primefac (talk) 13:22, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

AFD

You may want to close the AFD on this article here Miguel Arcángel Roscigna as the those wanting to keep it is unanimous, as I have removed by delete vote. Davidgoodheart (talk) 13:27, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

I don't close AFDs on request, sorry. Primefac (talk) 14:35, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
Who does do so then? Davidgoodheart (talk) 14:38, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
Any admin passing by who sees the withdrawal. Primefac (talk) 14:56, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

So what is the right venue, wording, and procedure for discussing what I think is a serious issue? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adversary argument (talkcontribs) 01:18, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

If you are not the one that has contacted the Arbitration Committee, then you should know that this issue has been brought to our attention. If you feel a user is behaving inappropriately, then you need to indicate as such without linking to off-Wiki sites unless they have explicitly declared the connection. Primefac (talk) 01:19, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
@Primefac: what do you mean this issue was already brought up?CycoMa (talk) 03:05, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
The post they made to WT:SEX was also sent to ArbCom at about the same time, that's about all I can say, which truthfully is probably more than I should have said anyway. Primefac (talk) 12:03, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

About new article

Hi @Primefac:, Please tell me, can i create a article of actor or singer or any artist which is going to debut in Bollywood sector which is covered by all reliable sources. Fade258 (talk) 15:10, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Assuming all the usual boxes are ticked, there's no reason not to create an article about anyone. Primefac (talk) 18:18, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

My question is what should I do in the future if I see an improper copy-paste again? Is there a place to report it to an admin, or is there a tag that I can put on it?

I saw that it had been copy-pasted in place of being moved, and I thought that this was improper, but I didn't see a way to flag or tag or report it. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:54, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

A {{histmerge}} request is usually the best thing, as the reviewing admin will then be able to take the appropriate action; in this particular instance I was looking at a related category and noticed the issue. Note that if a single user copies their own draft, a histmerge request is not required and the draft can just be redirected to the article. Primefac (talk) 14:07, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Alpha Phi Beta

Just curious, what was your reasoning for the "- UP College of Law" being an unnecessary dab? I thought it was needed given the contentious relationship between the group at UP and the splinter/separate group at San Beda College.Naraht (talk) 14:08, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Because there is no article or mention of any other Alpha Phi Beta that I can see; no need to dab what doesn't need disambiguation. If (and that's a big if) and when the draft gets approved, I don't see any reason why we can't have a redirect from the full name, but it doesn't need to be the full article title. Primefac (talk) 14:46, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
That's just it, Alpha Phi Beta on its own doesn't specifically refer either organization organization, Alpha Phi Beta - UP College of Law and Alpha Phi Beta - San Beda Law are legally different groups. Alpha Phi Beta should (eventually) be a dab page, and each one should have a particularly worded "Not to be confused with"...Naraht (talk) 16:43, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
Sure, eventually, if and when both groups have articles. At the moment neither one does, so it defaults to the shortest reasonable name that would describe the group. The opening sentence of the page can have the full title. Primefac (talk) 20:03, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Need your help

Hey, Category:Pages using infobox television with unknown empty parameters is almost cleared and was hoping you could remove these from a protected page: |rating=, the empty pipe at the end before the closing curly brackets and the br tag in the |image= field. Gonnym (talk) 08:09, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Primefac (talk) 13:51, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Old bad edits

fyi, just found a bunch of these. Frietjes (talk) 17:34, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Huh, interesting. I'll look through and see what needs removal. Primefac (talk) 15:57, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello Primefac

There is absolutely no copyright infringement. I created the website rapidball.info because the inventor of the sport and creator of the original, official homepage, rapid-ball.com and rapidball.co.uk, is no longer around. If you tell me what exactly to put on rapidball.info to make it compliant with the Wikipedia license terms, I can easily do that. It seems pretty awkward to hamper access to relevant, objective information about this sport just because the same facts are stated elsewhere. For example, the rules of the game no longer exist elsewhere. So, how would anyone be able to describe those rules without extensive references to the site where they exist? I made it very clear that some quotes were taken directly from the site or from the book that I have also quoted (as well as on the homepage).

Let me know what to do exactly. Achrist (talk) 14:41, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

With no explicit release of permission on the website, you either need to rewrite the draft in your own words (again) or follow the directions at WP:DONATETEXT. Primefac (talk) 16:28, 1 October 2021 (UTC)