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List of United States Marine Corps four-star generals

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Camptown 08:25, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

4-star generals/admirals

I want to say amazing job on the lists of 4 star generals. It inspired me to come back for a while to wikipedia and try to fill in some of the red links. --Nobunaga24 23:49, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Austin M. Knight

Hi Morinao. You are off to such a great start on the article Austin M. Knight that it may qualify to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page under the Did you know... section. The Main Page gets about 4,000,000 hits per day and appearing on the Main Page may help bring publicity and assistance to the article. However, there is a five day from article creation window for Did you know... nominations. Before five days pass from the date the article was created and if you haven't already done so, please consider nominating the article to appear on the Main Page by posting a nomination at Did you know suggestions. If you do nominate the article for DYK, please cross out the article name on the "Good" articles proposed by bot list. Also, don't forget to keep checking back at Did you know suggestions for comments regarding your nomination. Again, great job on the article. -- JayHenry 20:28, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

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Well done Morinao and don't hesistate to self nom in future. We always need more serious stuff on DYK! Keep up the great work.Blnguyen (bananabucket) 09:15, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Louis R. de Steiguer

Hi Morinao. You are off to such a great start on the article Louis R. de Steiguer that it may qualify to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page under the Did you know... section. The Main Page gets about 4,000,000 hits per day and appearing on the Main Page may help bring publicity and assistance to the article. However, there is a five day from article creation window for Did you know... nominations. Before five days pass from the date the article was created and if you haven't already done so, please consider nominating the article to appear on the Main Page by posting a nomination at Did you know suggestions. If you do nominate the article for DYK, please cross out the article name on the "Good" articles proposed by bot list. Also, don't forget to keep checking back at Did you know suggestions for comments regarding your nomination. Again, great job on the article. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 17:08, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

DYK

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Well done Morinao. Really comprehensive. I've been working a bit on the Vietnam War. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:45, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

I had never seen that source before. Already found three pics of generals I had looked everywhere for, uploaded them a little bit ago. Haven't found the oral histories yet, but still searching. I was reaching the point on some of these guys of just writing "XXXX was a US Army general who commanded XXXX" and hoping someone else could fill in the blanks. The Air Force has a much better system of archiving general officer bios and pics.--Nobunaga24 04:00, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Volney

Actually, I did get, thru wiki email, a letter from an associate of Warner's who wanted to create the article on him. I never got around to replying, but did create the article after reading the email. I think perhaps it might be the same person, or perhaps even the good general himself.--Nobunaga24 22:50, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Vice Chiefs of Staff article

Thanks for writing Vice Chief of Staff of the United States Army. I expanded and added references to the article. Daniel Bush 06:58, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Belated thanks....

I'm a little late saying "thanks" for you saying "congratulations." I'll take that as a barnstar/certificate of appreciation/Wikipedia Distinguished Service Medal. And thanks for your contributions to military history articles. Just out of curiosity, what is your military background? I don't know if I'll be around to reply, but if you answer in the next few days, I might see it. I'm retiring for a second time...alas, I have become exhausted in my personal life, and have come to feel this is just one more boulder around my neck. I did what I set out to do, which was to complete or start all the U.S. Army four star general articles.--Nobunaga24 03:07, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Barksdale Hamlett

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Clarence S. Williams

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--GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 09:53, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Richard H. Jackson, was selected for DYK!

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Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 21:10, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Charles P. Snyder (admiral), was selected for DYK!

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Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 03:38, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

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Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:39, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

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General

Thanks for your response to my question at Talk:General_(United_States)#Missing_information. Note my response to your response. - Shaheenjim 18:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

On Talk:General (United States) you said, "After the war, both March and Bliss reverted to their permanent ranks of major general when the World War I emergency legislation expired." Maybe this is a dumb question and I'm missing something obvious, but where did you get that information? I couldn't find it in the introduction to Commanding Generals or in its section on Bliss. What was the exact url of the specific page that said that, and what was the exact quote? - Shaheenjim 04:08, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

On Talk:General (United States) you said, "After the war, both March and Bliss reverted to their permanent ranks of major general when the World War I emergency legislation expired, but Pershing was advanced to General of the Armies." At first I interpreted that to mean that Pershing was advanced to General of the Armies at the same time that March and Bliss reverted to Major General (or after they reverted). But it looks like Pershing was promoted to General of the Armies on September 3, 1919, and March didn't revert to Major General until June 30, 1920. That would mean that the army had a Lieutenant General, a General, and a General of the Armies all at the same time. Would you confirm that for me? Thanks. - Shaheenjim 16:03, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help on Talk:General (United States). I added the info you gave me on the talk page to the article. Note my new questions at Talk:General (United States)#Missing information 2 and Talk:Chief of Staff of the United States Army. The question at that second link implies a contradiction to your earlier statement on Talk:General (United States) when you said, "after 1906 the highest rank was again major general." - Shaheenjim 19:56, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for answering my question at Talk:Chief of Staff of the United States Army. How about my questions at Talk:General (United States)#Missing information 2? Do you know the answer to them? - Shaheenjim 22:19, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

History of Generals

On Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history we had been talking about where to put the history of Generals in the US. People are now having that same conversation again at Talk:General_of_the_Armies#Pershing. I don't know why they insist on having the same conversation in multiple places, but that's not up to me. Anyway, I invite you to reaffirm your position there. - Shaheenjim 02:14, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

belated

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LTG Dempsey and LTG Odierno

While I greatly appreciate your contibutions to the List of United States four-star officers‎ in updating pending four-star nominations, but isn't it jumping the gun with putting LTG Martin Dempsey and LTG Raymond T. Odierno names in the List of United States Army four-star generals? They have yet to be confirmed by the Senate as well as assumed the nominated assignments. Neovu79 (talk) 04:11, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you! - Morinao (talk) 17:24, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

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Collaboration pays off

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Maurice E. Curts

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Edward C. Kalbfus

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Lynde D. McCormick

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Henry G. Ulrich III

The Navy's official website still lists ADM Henry G. Ulrich III as an active officer as of March 6 2008. Should we re-add him back to the List of United States four-star officers? Neovu79 (talk) 04:07, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree with that. Language to address the offices would be beneficial. However, since List of United States four-star officers is a broad statement in itself, would it be favorable to move the article to List of United States four-star offices? Let me know that you thank. :-) Neovu79 (talk) 19:29, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

What about List of United States four-star positions? Neovu79 (talk) 20:38, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Renaming List of United States four-star officers

I've been think about it for a while now, what do you thing about List of active duty United States four-star officers? Neovu79 (talk) 05:55, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

After looking it up, hyphen would not be gramatically correct four active duty. I have made a requested move from List of United States four-star officers to List of active duty United States four-star officers. Feel free to add your imput in the discussion page. :-) Neovu79 (talk) 23:20, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:List of United States Army four-star generals

I did think about doing the peer review first, but for reasons unknown to me I nominated it for feature list status directly. I can withdraw, or you can (bit busy for a couple of hours I think, so if you still see it up there later, just point whoever to this conversation and say it's being withdrawn). The peer review first would be helpful for sure.--Nobunaga24 (talk) 00:53, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

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DYK

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Holloway article

Wow, I'm blown away to see an article so fully formed and so well-researched on New Pages. Hats off! TallNapoleon (talk) 06:08, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey, thanks, I've been working on it for a while now. It's a relief to finally be done! - Morinao (talk) 06:21, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

DYK for James L. Holloway, Jr.

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DYK for Stanley A. McChrystal

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Waldemar F. A. Wendt

Nice article on this guy. He was once captain of the USS Rankin, a ship I served on and have written a lot about. We never could find too much about him, though. Your article has provided a LOT of additional information. Thanks. Lou Sander (talk) 02:39, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome! One time I tracked down his daughter and talked with her on the phone. She was a lot less helpful than your article -- I speculated that she and her dad didn't get along, or that maybe he wasn't home very often. BTW, his nickname among comrades was "Wally," and people thought highly of him when he was Captain of the Rankin. Lou Sander (talk) 15:46, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for List of major generals in the United States Regular Army before July 1, 1920!

Just a note to let you know your work is noticed and appreciated! My area of interest is the history of the United States Army between the Civil War and World War I, so after seeing List of major generals in the United States Regular Army before July 1, 1920, I just thought I should say howdy and leave a token of gratitude. Keep it up!! I hope to run into you again. Ejosse1 (talk) 18:37, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

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		Thanks, Morinao, for expanding Wikipedia's coverage of the history of the United States Army by creating the article List of major generals in the United States Regular Army before July 1, 1920. Ejosse1 (talk) 18:37, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! It's great to see someone working on that period of the Army's history, which is way underrepresented not just in Wikipedia but in the literature in general, especially compared to the Civil War. I'm doing lieutenant generals next so I'm sure we'll continue to cross paths. -Morinao (talk) 20:53, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK for List of major generals in the United States Regular Army before July 1, 1920

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Re: List of lieutenant generals in the United States Army before 1960

I did keep in mind what you wrote on formatting, before applying my changes, and I knew I was nitpicking. My previous changes were aimed mostly at readability of the code (articles get messed up by bold newcomers who couldn't understand the coding). I am pretty sure the code of that article can be significantly trimmed, but honestly, don't have much interest, and just applied quick changes. Great work with assembling all that information. Materialscientist (talk) 07:49, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

I am a newbie in the coding and learn by experience. (Same daily experience shows me that most tables are overloaded with code.) If I were seriously trying to trim the code, I would go to help desks, starting from "table" and other code templates used in the article. I have experience with helpdesk on images; it was quick and professional. In your table, you can use |<center>X|Y instead of |align=right|X  |Y with almost equal result. There should also be a tweak to avoid "valign=top", but I don't know that - formally, wikitables don't allow to specify vertical text alignment in the top line (though they do with horizontal). This is the best help on tables I know, but I feel it is by far incomplete. Materialscientist (talk) 08:38, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK for List of lieutenant generals in the United States Army before 1960

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List of United States Navy four-star admirals (Arthur D. Struble)

I'm changing Arthur D. Struble's education for Military Academy to U.S. Naval Academy and his commissioning date to 1911. The link] from the Naval Historical Center from his bio page states as such. :-) Neovu79 (talk) 18:25, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Your edits

This is a better solution, and I really like this one. Good work! Thank you. Pdfpdf (talk) 00:24, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Thad W. Allen

Hi Morinao, I'm messaging you because I wanted to get your two-cents on this. I've read several articles that after Admiral Allen steps down as Commandant, he will remain at his presidentially appointed position of National Incident Commander, by the request of the Secretary of Homeland Security, to continue to oversee the oil spills in the Gulf of Mexico. Now the articles does not state that he leaves active duty. It does state that he will be working closely with Rear Admiral Mary Landry, USCG, who is the federal on-scene coordinator, and other federal agencies. At the end of this message are two articles that state as such. My question to you is, do we leave him in the List of active duty United States four-star officers even though his position is only for the cleanup effort, or remove him? Here are the acticles. [1] [2]. Neovu79 (talk) 13:46, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

I agree, he's probably awaitng retirement, though I would say if he's still actively doing something pertaining to the government while in uniform instead of using up leave time while awaitng retirement, we should a least give him active-duty credit. Let me know what you think. :-) Neovu79 (talk) 02:03, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. I've made the changes. :-) Neovu79 (talk) 22:13, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

John R. Allen

That's a good question. My logic is why they would announce a transitional billet on a nomination announcement? Usually they are just reassignement there pending nomination. I do remember reading about him coming back to the Pentagon for a transitional assignment, but usually they don't send that to the Senate, am I right? Allen's nomination for isaf/usfor-a was announced with the announcement for Petraeus for CIA and Panetta for SECDEF here. 20:10, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

If they are forcing him to leave immediately as Deputy of CENTCOM, that would made a lot of sense. If not, that same law allows Allen to transition to a new billet within 60 days of leaving office. So do you suggest we leave his four-star nomination on the page until we find out further details on his special assistant assignment? I know it doesnt mean anything yet, but Allen's four-star nomination has yet to be sent to the Senate. Also, just an after thought, have you noticed a lot of Navy SEALs have moved into or going to be moved into a lot of top jobs already this year? You've got Joseph Kernan moving to deputy commander of USSOUTHCOM, William McRavan to commander of USSOCOM, and now Robert Harward to deputy commander of USCENTCOM. Neovu79 (talk) 21:32, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks for the notification; that sounds too much like work. I've withdrawn the nomination. - Morinao (talk) 16:12, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

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I did, yes. - Morinao (talk) 08:47, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

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Number of four-star positions being reduced

Thought this might interest you. The National Defense Authorization Act of 2017 that was signed into law will be reducing the total number of four-star positions by five as per Sec. 910 of the bill. Neovu79 (talk) 01:45, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the note -- I hadn't noticed this had been signed.

It looks like Sec. 910 was only in the House version, not the Senate version, and was dropped from the version that actually became law. The Senate originally wanted to cut four-star positions from 41 to 27 -- 3 per service plus the JCS and other joint commanders -- by the end of 2017! It looks like all the final law does is reduce the total number of general/flag officers by 10% by the end of 2022 (Sec. 501). The Secretary of Defense is supposed to submit a proposed grade distribution to Congress by April 1, which will specify how many four-stars to cut.

The House version specifically designated four-star component commanders for grade reduction, which seemed aimed at the 5 overseas four-stars (USARPAC, USPACFLT, USNAVEUR, PACAF, USAFE). I guess it could also have taken down the NORTHCOM/STRATCOM/TRANSCOM components (USFLTFORCOM, AFGSC, AFSPC, AMC), but probably the services would have just set up separate NAVNORTH/NAVSTRAT/etc. commands since they only had to give up 5 four-star positions. Reducing only the 5 overseas components would have shifted the service-specific (non-JCS, non-joint) Army-Navy-Air Force four-star balance from 5-5-8 to 4-3-6. Maybe no surprise that Senators McCain (Navy) and Reed (Army) didn't bite.... -- - Morinao (talk) 05:47, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Townsend

It's really the only position available and a process of elimination. In the past four years, the Army has refused to announce four-star positions that pertain to Army specific posts. The only reason the Army announce Chiefs and Vice Chiefs of Staff is because it's written in law. Army officers are announced for Joint Chiefs, combatant commands, and other joint positions, because it's the Department of Defense that announces them and not the Army. Out of all the Army specific four-star positions, General Perkins is the only one that has already submitted paperwork for retirement. He already extended his term by a year partly due to Congressional fighting over Presidential nominations. Also all other four-stars in the Army specific positions still have over one to two years left in their terms. All of the combatant commands, except for CYBERCOM, have commanders who still have over one or two years left in their terms. Also, LTG MacFarland has only been in his position as DCG of TRADOC for less than a year. The chances of the Army pulling a stunt similar to how General Dempsey went from Chief of Staff of the Army to Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in less than a year is very rare. Neovu79 (talk) 01:14, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Here is a reference link for you. Townsend expected to be new US Army TRADOC commander. Neovu79 (talk) 22:03, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Interesting. Thanks for the link. - Morinao (talk) 04:40, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

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Stephen R. Lyons

TRANSCOM? LOL, who would have thought? Usually, the Department of Defense announces their joint four-star assignments. Its normally the Department of the Army that doesn't announce their service specific four-star assignments. All this time, I thought LTG Lyons was up for an Army command since it wasn't announced. I pegged him to take over for GEN Abrams at FORSCOM since Abrams is on the shortlist to take over for GEN Brooks in Korea. Maybe the DoD was affraid to publicly announce that an Army general was taking over what is historically been an Air Force unified command. Neovu79 (talk) 21:45, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

For an Army logistician like Lyons, I think it had to be either TRANSCOM or an early turnover at Army Materiel Command. All of the other Army, theater, and regional combatant commands have always gone to a combat-arms officer, and he doesn't have the background for any of the other functional combatant commands. Even the new AFC seems to be earmarked for an infantry officer with budget expertise.

What's remarkable is that Lyons isn't even a Transportation Corps officer. He was commissioned into the Ordnance Corps, and his entire career through major general was in logistics and sustainment. He didn't get his first real transportation job until becoming TRANSCOM deputy commander as a lieutenant general.

Even more remarkable, if for whatever reason you pass over the heir apparent at Air Mobility Command, then Lyons' two years at TRANSCOM might actually make him the most qualified three-star in any service in terms of experience as a general or flag officer. The Marines' Broadmeadow has been TRANSCOM deputy commander for less than a year. The Navy's TRANSCOM deputy commanders are all retired and their component commander is only a two-star.

Then you look at the Air Force, where the default succession would have been from 18th AF->AMC->TRANSCOM, meaning Tuck->Everhart->McDew. Instead, Everhart was passed over, and Tuck is backfilling Lyons as J4. Martinez seems to be the only other three-star with any significant airlift experience as a general officer, so maybe he is headed to AMC this year instead of Tuck. I suppose the Air Force could have just nominated another fighter pilot for TRANSCOM, like they did for AFGSC, but at that point you might as well pick an Army officer. - Morinao (talk) 04:11, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Lt Gen Maryanne Miller fourth star nomination

That is very interesting. Miller is a career reserve officer, and for a reserve officer be nominated for a fourth star extremely rare. There is only one known four-star position that follows a reserve officer pipeline and that's the Chief of the National Guard Bureau and currently General Lengyel still has two more years remaining and I haven't heard of him requesting for early retirement. U.S. Northern Command's deputy commander has been a reserve officer three-star since 2008 (also particularly from the National Guard), and there was once talk about making the commander of USNORTHCOM a four-star officer from the National Guard, but that never came to fruition. Even now, General O'Shaughnessy only assumed command of USNORTHCOM this past May, so that rules out that job going to Miller. Her career, staff positions and commands held, are pretty broad throughout her career, so I can't make heads or tails on what current-known four-star position she may be inheriting. My hunch is that they are opening up a new four-star position for her. I hope they announce something soon. It's killing my curiosity. Neovu79 (talk) 09:36, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

After doing a thorough review of the remaining four-star positions, so far I see one likely and two outside possibilities. Generals Ellen M. Pawlikowski and Carlton D. Everhart II and Admiral Kurt W. Tidd are all scheduled to retire. That makes U.S. Southern Command, Air Force Materiel Command and Air Mobility Command available. Out of the three, Air Mobility Command is the most likely destination for Miller, in my opinion. Miller has a lot of experience as a commander of reserve air forces, particularly in air mobility and airlift, which AMC encompasses. In the earlier part of her career, she's flown in a hand full of the aircraft AMC uses. But most importantly, a good portion of AMC is comprised of reserve airmen and Air National Guardsmen. Neovu79 (talk) 14:02, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

That's amazing, and why it's so much fun to track these things! I think it has to be AMC, with an outside chance at VCSAF if Wilson is retiring or moving on early. (She's Air Force Reserve, not Air National Guard, so wouldn't be eligible for CNGB.) It's remarkable that although she has a long career in air mobility, her entire general officer career has been in either the Joint Staff or AFRC, without any postings to AMC or 18 AF headquarters, in contrast to previous AMC commanders. It makes me wonder if someone thinks Scott AFB has gotten too insular, and needs a shakeup (especially after losing TRANSCOM to the Army). Also makes me wonder if Stayce Harris was being evaluated for the job when she was the first Reservist to be appointed AVCSAF a couple of years ago. - Morinao (talk) 18:03, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

From what I know, General Everhart and Miller are both proponents for the Air Force initiative of swapping aircraft parts between units within the AMC, Air Force Reserve and the Air National Guard in order reduce the need of purchasing extra parts or aircraft as seen here. Everhart and Miller have been working very closely together to push this change through. I think that probably has something to do with her nomination (assuming she is slated to take over AMC). And with Everhart retiring, what better person is there to continue their efforts within AMC, than the person who aligns with your goals. So, I bet Everhart had a say in picking his successor. Neovu79 (talk) 20:40, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Everhart is listed to officially retire on November 1, 2018 as stated here, so this leads me strongly to believe that she's taking over for him. :) Neovu79 (talk) 18:50, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

U.S. Space Command

Just thought you would want to know, that on August 13, 2018, President Trump signed into law, the John S. McCain National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2019. It includes the re-establishment of the U.S. Space Command by the end of 2018. It will temporarily be a sub-unified combatant command under U.S. Strategic Command, who's commander will be a four-star general or flag officer, until it can be separated as a full unified combatant command. Neovu79 (talk) 08:03, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. Have you seen this WSJ article yet? Lots of four-star rumors. - Morinao (talk) 19:16, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

That's very funny, because I just read Report: Air Force General May Be Next Head of Joint Chiefs just before looking at your response. It pretty much mirrors WSJ's report as well. I think Generals Goldfein and Hyten are fine choices for either Joint Chiefs assignments. But, the law states that the chairman and vice chairman, and cannot both be filled by officers at the same service branch at the same time. Goldfien would be at the top my list for chairman. It's sad that no Navy officer is being considered for any of these important positions, cause the Navy has been sorely under represented in joint four-star assignments the last 3-4 years. Neovu79 (talk) 22:25, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Well...Navy needs to focus on not crashing their ships anymore. They are lucky to have saved PACOM after Swift went down for that. Still, if Goldfein gets CJCS, you could imagine Hyten replacing him as CSAF -- he was apparently the runner up last time -- and a nuclear admiral like Foggo or Richard getting STRATCOM (which should open up next year anyway).

Well, I truly doubt that is the reason that the Navy has been passed over since those events all occurred within a year of Admiral Swift being considered for USINDOPACOM. The Navy has steadily seen a decline in four-star assignments since Admiral McRaven retired from USSOCOM and they continued to lose positions when Admiral Winnefeld stepped down as vice chairman, and then Admirals Gortney and Haney retiring in 2016. Since the retirement of Admiral Rogers this year, the Navy has seen a 1 to 5 loss ratio, with the lone gain being USSOUTHCOM with Admiral Kidd. Kidd is retiring this year and Vice Admiral Faller has been nominated to replace him. But, when you have the Army with about the to see an increase from 11 to 14 four-stars and the Air Force with 14, which by the way has 7000 less active-duty personnel than the Navy which has only 8, so can see that there is a disparity and imbalance of four-star officers. Neovu79 (talk) 06:22, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Fun trivia I just noticed. The only time the entire JCS membership turned over in the same year is when Eisenhower replaced all the Truman chiefs upon entering office (except CMC, who wasn't a full JCS member yet). Since then, JCS appointments have been staggered, due to deaths, firings, SACEUR appointments, etc. But in 2007, the CNO was appointed CJCS, thereby synchronizing the CNO and CJCS schedules, since both typically serve four years. That triggered VCJCS to be replaced since he couldn't be in the same service as CJCS. Then the next two appointments synchronized CSA (2011) and CMC (2015) as well.

So if Goldfein is appointed CJCS in 2019 and synchronizes CSAF to the CJCS schedule, that means CJCS, VCJCS, CSA, CNO, CSAF, and CMC will all turn over in the same year -- the entire JCS except for CNGB. And this pattern will continue until one of them dies, gets fired, or quits (or someone decides it's bad practice for everyone to leave at the same time). - Morinao (talk) 00:09, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Well at least starting in 2021, the vice chariman's synchronicity with the chairman's year of assumption will be fixed. That is when the vice chairman's term limited is increased from two year to four and when appointments will be staggered with a two-year gap between chairman and vice chairman appointments. So it is possible, that the next VCJS could serve up to 6 total years from 2019 to 2025 with this law change. Neovu79 (talk) 06:22, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

@Neovu79: Unfortunate that that didn't happen, since Mark Milley was nominated instead as a sign of protest by the president towards his secretary of defense. SuperWIKI (talk) 16:36, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

National Guard (United States)???

I've recently submitted a request to move National Guard of the United States to National Guard (United States), and I want to get your honest feedback on the subject. Neovu79 (talk) 16:25, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

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Help with timelines... eventually.

Hi, this is SuperWIKI. I was hoping to get your help since you're better acquainted with the EasyTimeline format than I am. I ecently created this page, and I'm still running into code problems with the format. Seeing as you created the whole thing from scratch in the four-star articles (per my history searches), may I request your help to develop them (officeholders and position timelines) for the Army other service three-star pages in future? Much appreciated. SuperWIKI (talk) 01:40, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi SuperWIKI, I added position and officeholder timelines to the Army three-star general article. Unfortunately, I don't think I will have time to do the other services, so I hope these examples are clear enough for you to adapt, correct, and tweak as desired. - Morinao (talk) 04:12, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks anyway! If possible, I'll try to do them. If there's problems, I can always make an edit request. Thanks very much again! SuperWIKI (talk) 04:16, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Yep, definitely helped. Thank you! SuperWIKI (talk) 06:14, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

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Your secret

I've been meaning to create three-star Army, Air Force, Marine, and Navy officers lists for as far back as 1960 (where your lists end) but the Congress website only lists nominations as far back as 1980. Wanted to ask how you get your hands on all the information you have that's not readily available, and ask if you have anything that I can access and use to that effect. SuperWIKI (talk) 06:13, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Unfortunately my secret is to limit my scope to before the Officer Personnel Act of 1947, which is about when the quantity and quality of general/flag officer documentation starts to fall off a cliff. I only did the three-star lists up to 1960 because of tombstone promotions, and even then the Navy vice admiral list took a decade longer to assemble than the Army and Air Force lists.

For these twentieth-century lists, all I can suggest is to go through each year of the official registers, if available. For example, the 1970 Navy register is at least sorted by rank, not alphabetically: https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/AMH/USN/Naval_Registers/ Even if a register is alphabetized by name, Acrobat Reader text search actually works decently well in a PDF, so you can often search for "VADM" or similar (which is what I wound up doing for the tombstone vice admirals).

You can also look for nominations pre-1980 in the Congressional Record. If I find a name or office, I usually also run a search in Google Books and newspapers.com (subscription), although both are less fruitful after the 1960s. - Morinao (talk) 08:05, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice! Also, I'm assuming that the reason you don't seem to make many edits is because it took you a decade to assemble the above list off-site? Looking forward to working with you in future, I believe we and Neovu79 share a passion of tracking future general and flag officer appointments. SuperWIKI (talk) 08:28, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

P.S: A handful of Army appointments to three-star rank haven't been announced yet, any idea where you think these guys will go? SuperWIKI (talk) 08:31, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

I have much less time to spend on Wikipedia than I used to, so I typically only engage when I post a new article. Since I don't have time or energy to defend previous articles against entropy and vandalism, I only post an article when I am completely done editing it, since I know I'm going to have to disappear for long stretches afterward.

Regarding Army appointments, I always guess wrong on these, but it's still fun to try. I see Waddell is retiring, DTRA has had an acting director since January, I Corps an acting CG since June, III Corps is about due to rotate, and the Fifth Army CG is up for promotion. Not sure what's going on with Schwartz, but either NSHQ or Israel-Palestine needs a replacement.

So maybe Fenzel will go to Assistant CJCS; Fletcher to DTRA Director; Mennes, Calvert, and Matlock to I Corps, III Corps, and Fifth Army; and Evans to NSHQ? - Morinao (talk) 21:28, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Forgot to mention, I left a list of vice admirals from 1960 to 1963 here. - Morinao (talk) 16:35, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

(looks at Congressional Record) Oh my. Is there any way to narrow down all of these for nominations or tell which ones actually cover appropriate nominations? SuperWIKI (talk) 17:13, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

On the Congress.gov website, try searching for some variant of '"vice admiral" nomination' in the Congressional Record, and narrow your search to one Congress at a time (example). This will return a bunch of PDFs, which you can download, open in your PDF viewer, and search again for "vice admiral". It's still a ton of work (~100 results per Congress), but maybe a little more tractable. - Morinao (talk) 17:29, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! SuperWIKI (talk) 17:41, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

An editor claims Walter F. Boone, Harry D. Felt and Arleigh A. Burke are missing from the list. Just want to confirm if you did miss anyone. SuperWIKI (talk) 04:31, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Felt is #194 on the list. Boone and Burke were promoted directly from rear admiral to admiral. - Morinao (talk) 06:23, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Question

Hello Morinao, I noticed you were actively editing and wanted to take the opportunity to ask if you had taken notice of a discussion from last spring about ranks, (it can be found here). Please take a look and perhaps participate, or at least let me know what you think. Thanks & Cheers - wolf 13:35, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Is it possible to get in touch?

I just saw your summation of the old 6-Star Rank page fiasco, and wanted to get in touch with you via a quicker method than talk pages; is there a Wiki Discord or something? AlternateWars (talk) 21:23, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi AlternateWars, sorry, I only check in very sporadically, so talk page is typically the most reliable way to get in touch with me, and even then it may take awhile, as you can see. I don't know about other Wiki channels, but happy to consider any suggestions. - Morinao (talk) 05:02, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

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Page I kinda created already

Morinao HAHHAHAHAHHA.... HAHAHHAHAHAHA. I'm sorry!🤣 SuperWIKI (talk) 04:39, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

P.S.: I was going to ask for help on if you're able to get your hands on any U.S. service registers from 1960 to the present. Considering I live in Asia, wanted to ask if you have any special access to any registers that cover those years. Currently doing this. For consistency, would you prefer the three-star list pages I make be named "three-star" or by the specific rank of "lieutenant general" or "vice admiral"? SuperWIKI (talk) 04:42, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry about that. I did see that article and was going to create a Coast Guard vice admiral list up to 1960, like the others, but decided there just aren't enough Coast Guard vice admirals to justify splitting up the list by decade. So I followed your Space Force three-star format instead.

I don't have any special access to registers, especially after the late 1970s, which is when my neighborhood government repository stopped archiving the print copies (and not sure I have access to that anymore -- I've moved, and it was a university library anyway).

I generally like precision, where possible, so since the only type of Marine Corps three-star officer is a lieutenant general, I prefer "Marine Corps lieutenant general". But I don't really have a strong opinion about "three-star general" vs. "lieutenant general" or "lieutenant general in the Marine Corps" vs. "Marine Corps lieutenant general", so feel free to move any of these if you are trying to enforce consistency. - Morinao (talk) 04:52, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

For the Coast Guard list, I'll begin migrating information and images you don't have on that list yet, and eventually cut my own page (if that's possible) since yours is better constructed than mine. SuperWIKI (talk) 05:07, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Pinged you about Charles R. Bender on the talk page. SuperWIKI (talk) 07:25, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Finally want to ask: what's the future projects you're working on? To prevent a list clash like what happened to, I'd be interested to know what lists to this effect you're working on next. SuperWIKI (talk) 12:07, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

I think the only post-1947 lists I'm contemplating would round out the vice admirals with:

• List of United States Maritime Service vice admirals
• List of United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps vice admirals
• List of United States National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Commissioned Officer Corps vice admirals

Also cover both federally and non-federally recognized three- and four-star generals in the National Guard, like Delaware(!) four-star general Francis D. Vavala and Mississippi four-star general Emmett H. Walker Jr.:

• List of United States National Guard four-star generals
• List of United States National Guard lieutenant generals

Some of these lists are a bit overkill -- PHS is just a subset of surgeons general, and NOAA has only two entries -- but it's good to have someplace to log every new three-star so no one falls through the cracks.

I don't know how long it will take for me to get around to these, so go ahead and grab them if you find time first. The Coast Guard vice admiral list was only a clash because the difference in scope caused a difference in format, and I doubt that will be an issue for any of these lists. - Morinao (talk) 04:10, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Already did List of United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps three-star admirals. However, you will certainly have more information and research into the history of the actual rank than I do, so I would greatly appreciate such additions. Just add them below the timeline like every other list. Additionally, the different in format (visually and via code) for the list was in response to a critique by User:Sbb, who says that your usual style of tables no longer fit MOS:ACCESSIBILITY guidelines. SuperWIKI (talk) 04:20, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Oh, perfect, done. It might also be interesting to make an additional list for USAR/USNR/USAFR/USMCR three-stars, even though it would be redundant with the decade lists, since they are scarce enough to view in one place and it's interesting to see which positions have been opened to reservists beyond just chief of their respective service reserves (e.g. Colglazier, Dumont, Waddell). - Morinao (talk) 04:36, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

I agree about the redundancy. An article akin to Tombstone promotion which, at least by intention, is intended to assess reserve positions and not be primarily a list would be more appropriate in my opinion. That's less likely to provoke some eyebrows over simple reorganizing already available lists in different ways. For now, I'm intending to do lists up to the 1990s at best, as the Defense Technical Information Center has very helpfully provided general/flag officer lists from 1986 to 1998. SuperWIKI (talk) 04:41, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

If so, should you finish the lists you've set out to do and have the time, could you also assist in perhaps updating and making longer the rank history sections for the Army, Navy, Marine and List of United States Air Force four-star generals in time? Those sections haven't aged well, and I'm struggling to add the necessary information, even with the sources you've listed in the references section. It's also hard to ask for assistance, given that rank and appointment history is a niche area of Wikipedia even for the Project: Military history folks. SuperWIKI (talk) 04:14, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

P.S.: Been trying to make legislative history tables for the four-star ranks, but my, those are hard. Do you have tips on wording the entries, capitalization of positions, and otherwise? Those little things are what I've been agonizing about lately, and seeing as you're more proficient at these, I was meaning to ask for some tips when you came back in. SuperWIKI (talk) 04:23, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Sure, I can pitch in on the history sections (and legislative histories). For those sections, I generally try to capitalize the organization but not the position (e.g. capitalize Army Ground Forces but not commanding general), except in the legislative histories if the law itself capitalizes the position (e.g. Commandant of the Marine Corps). But I've been pretty inconsistent about this. - Morinao (talk) 04:36, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

That inconsistency may or may not have lead me to some hour-long quagmires before; I tend to be very particular about standardization. SuperWIKI (talk) 04:38, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

It's like the old programming joke:

There are 2 hard problems in computer science:

1. cache invalidation
2. naming things
3. off-by-1 errors

Number 3 is the joke, and number 2 is no joke! - Morinao (talk) 04:47, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

🤣🤣🤣🤣 dying of laughter Glad I'm able to talk about these things with you, User:Maliepa, User:Neovu79, User:KingEdinburgh and User:Thewolfchild. Not a lot of people understand these kinds of issues we have. SuperWIKI (talk) 04:50, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

New source

Found this. Think it'll be useful. SuperWIKI (talk) 09:45, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Nice!

You mad lad, you upgraded the timelines while I was standing still! Nice job, your timeline are always a treat! Right now working on command lists for the unified combatant commands. Now there's the legislative histories and major text updates left. Hope the baselines on the sandbox are good enough so far! SuperWIKI (talk) 03:59, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

P.S. Acronyms for the three-star lists are becoming such a pain, since they're more inconsistent than the set-in-stone four-star positions, not to mention dual-hatted commands shifting all the time and having to check when these shifts happened... SuperWIKI (talk) 04:08, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Oh dear, has it really been nine months already? Sorry, I started digging into four-star legislative histories and what a bottomless pit that project has turned out to be. Thanks for the sandbox baselines, they were a helpful starting point. - Morinao (talk) 05:53, 5 October 2022 (UTC)