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- By the way, nice username :) Howicus (Did I mess up?) 21:42, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
The Asha Degree article
Thanks for fixing things.
I had worked on that article rather hastily, because someone else started it and a lot of my early work was just trying to get stuff in the right order.
The best sources for specific details are the local news stories that are largely available only on archive.org now where they don't easily come up in searches. The Redditor who pointed out just how frustrating the details of what happened that night is correct ... there is a lot of inconsistency in the family's account as to when things happened. And they are, I think, right that it doesn't suggest they're lying; they may just not themselves be sure.
I never intended to use that blog as a source for anything other than to prove its own existence after it was mentioned in that other article which is from a reliable source. Yet somehow, dealing with all these sources (I often work on these things with a long row of tabs open because almost every news article mentions something another one doesn't, even if it's relatively minor, and I can't always remember which detail I want to include is in which source I've found without tediously going through all of them), I must have gotten myself convinced that one of the other articles cited about that discovery mentioned the contents of the later bag as well as the blog. Mea culpa. Daniel Case (talk) 05:21, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
- Hey, no worries. Like I said, my primary concern was that someone had put this in for a giggle.Jesuschristonacamel (talk) 05:28, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
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That username
I have no words, other than it made me giggle inside. /slowclap/ - NsTaGaTr (Talk) 19:41, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
- Bless you, my child - ක - (talk) 22:03, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
Just to let you know
Hello Jesuschristonacamel! I just wanted to let you know that my reply to your comment on my talk page I moved to User:Anish Mariathasan/Current Projects. Thanks very much :)Heptanitrocubane (talk) 13:41, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
- Ha! Thanks. I was wondering where my message had got to. - ක - (talk) 15:20, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
Hey Jesuschristonacamel. As I'm here, I'll say thanks again, but I wanted to let you know that my talk page has now got everything on one page. Sorry for the changes :D. Best regards Heptanitrocubane (talk) 16:00, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
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Lots of changes on Valentine Joseph
Hi. Could you have another look at the article - and the talk as Obi has reverted some changes. Thanks - Heptanitrocubane (talk) 19:48, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
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I saw your comment on his talk page. Just thought I'd point out - he was blocked due to WP:CIR issues - he had little understanding of how Wikipedia functions. So I'd say, if you question any of his work, like ref improve tags, I'd go and use your own best judgement on it, and ignore what he may have done. FYI. Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 12:58, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Sergecross73: Yeah, I only read through the other posts on his talk page after I'd already put mine in. Plus the fact that I'd done a rework of that article myself, and couldn't figure out where I'd made any unsourced claims. Already removed the tag, but I'd appreciate it if you could go over the article (Colombo Cricket Club) just in case, see if there's anything missing, if you've got a minute to spare :) - ක - (talk) 16:03, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, while I don't know much in the way of Cricket or Sri Lanka, a quick skim doesn't reveal any particular issues that would require that tag. Sergecross73 msg me 16:29, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks anyway :) - ක - (talk) 17:20, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, while I don't know much in the way of Cricket or Sri Lanka, a quick skim doesn't reveal any particular issues that would require that tag. Sergecross73 msg me 16:29, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Sergecross73: Yeah, I only read through the other posts on his talk page after I'd already put mine in. Plus the fact that I'd done a rework of that article myself, and couldn't figure out where I'd made any unsourced claims. Already removed the tag, but I'd appreciate it if you could go over the article (Colombo Cricket Club) just in case, see if there's anything missing, if you've got a minute to spare :) - ක - (talk) 16:03, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
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Re: Sri Lankan Navy insignia
Hey Jesuschristonacamel, I have been using uniforminsignia.org for information. Here the Midshipmen insignia, i would argue, looks like the one from the British Royal Navy, also shown here [1] and here [2]. However, I didn't want to use the RN insignia because of the crown, and chose the Omani insignia instead. Regards Skjoldbro (talk) 08:20, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry for the late reply @Skjoldbro:. But why the haste to put the Omani insignia on the page? Would it not be better to just leave the image blank until the correct one is made? I'm not really familiar with how pages like the ones for insignia are handled, but putting in one nation's insignia to cover for the lack of another's seems somewhat pointless and misleading to me. After all, the entire point of the image is to illustrate what that piece of insignia looks like, and putting in something that doesn't fulfill that purpose kinda defies the purpose, no?
- This isn't to say I don't appreciate what you do, just that I think it's better if we left that image out. - ක - (talk) 04:01, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- Hey @Jesuschristonacamel:, well that depends. When looking at the pictures that I posted above, I don't really see any difference between this and the Omani insignia, apart from the filename, making it in my opinion a correct. Normally, when two insignia look the same, one is just made and used both places, as it would be double work to upload the picture twice but with a different filename. This is especially so for Commonwealth and former Commonwealth countries, who all have Midshipman with the same insignia. Granted it is not the best way, when trying to figure the templates out, but it is properly the easiest way. Regards Skjoldbro (talk) 09:51, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- @Skjoldbro: The Sri Lankan midshipman's insgnia has no gold on it. This should tell you why I say the Omani insgnia looks nothing like Lanka's. It also appears to be the same as the one on the page you linked me to, although the page is broken on my end and images are all over the place.
- A brass button isn't exactly minor, mon ami. - ක - (talk) 10:04, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- @Jesuschristonacamel:No, you are right, however in the grand scheme of things, I don't always (maybe wrongly) see the button as an intricate part of the insignia, and there as a less important part. I mean would you tell me that File:17.ANAF-AM.svg is a completely wrong insignia, if the button was off? Well, in either case, I have fixed the Sri Lankan insignia to have a silver button, hope that this is a better picture?. Regards Skjoldbro (talk) 10:29, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- Hey @Jesuschristonacamel:, well that depends. When looking at the pictures that I posted above, I don't really see any difference between this and the Omani insignia, apart from the filename, making it in my opinion a correct. Normally, when two insignia look the same, one is just made and used both places, as it would be double work to upload the picture twice but with a different filename. This is especially so for Commonwealth and former Commonwealth countries, who all have Midshipman with the same insignia. Granted it is not the best way, when trying to figure the templates out, but it is properly the easiest way. Regards Skjoldbro (talk) 09:51, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
Re: Wickrama Bogoda
Dear Jesuschristonacame, It's a pleasure to see that you have seen the article Wickrama Bogoda. It really encourages me and appreciate that have made some changes/edits. Unexpectedly, a maintenance template appears on the article. May I so pleadingly request you to help the article to remove the maintenance template. The article may need further improvements in terms of technicalities and Wikipedia bastardizations etc. Perhaps, my feeling is, it may not need a maintenance template at this stage. I think, article is not that poor in its "content, structure, and citations". One may improve the English as it is an individual characteristic of the different editors. article is properly organized (please see the first editor's comments). If you see the history it has taken many works to improve the article to the current extent. Many local readers requested to keep only the most relevant citations, otherwise it will be difficulty to read the article when its packed with too many citations (as you can see their are so many articles of this nature!)
In my experience, over the last few more months, I learned that "editors" have the powers to control somebody's work, especially when an article is newly created. It is easy for an "editor" who has the power to control an article to add a maintenance template than constructively adding to the article. I'll be glad if you, had sent me note on my talk page before you put a maintenance template on the article and you can see in my talk page how much I have done to the bring this article to this level. May I also mentioned, this is not the first maintenance template added to the article after it was first published.
So, add this stage, may I request you again, Please remove the maintenance template. If you think it needs further improvement please let me know those specific requirements and highlight the areas that it needs improvements, I can work on them.
Once, an editor told me "every one who publish an article likes to see their article is cleaned,standardized and no other notices appear on the article. May I also request you with respect, please kindly note the article look simple for someone who reads it. But behind it there are so much of hard works, and words and concepts are carefully selected after long study of characteristics of Wickrama Bogoda and it is worthy editing it than putting a maintenance template on at this stage.
hope you will extend me your expertise thank you sincerely, rane2030Rane2030 12:51, 4 February 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rane2030 (talk • contribs)
- Hello @Rane2030:. Thanks for taking the time to write out this message. Let me first say that my placing of the template was not done in malice, or to embarrass you, but because the article truly needs to be improved when it comes to inline citations. But let's take this step by step and let me address the points in your message one by one.
- Firstly, the structure and English aren't what the template was about- in fact, the Bogoda article is much better off than the Anula Karunathilaka article. The concern was that the Bogoda article has a lot of information where the information is not backed up by citations. The 'Early Life', 'Role of Thissa in Gamperaliya' and 'Role of Sugath in Golu Hadawatha' sections/subsections have NO references, and almost all of the other sections/subsections have just one or two references each. This goes against WP:VER, which is one of the most important policies on Wikipedia that all of us need to follow. Everything that we put in an article needs to be backed up by some sort of credible source, or it needs to be removed- that's the rule. There is no such thing as "too many citations"- people need to see where the information is coming from, or the article could be full of mistakes or made-up info.
- Secondly, on the rare occasions I've placed maintenance tags on articles in the past, I've usually helped out by fixing the issues highlighted in the template I myself placed- you can see an example of this in the Anula K article, where I placed a template saying the article needed to be improved in terms of style, flow and grammar to sound more like an encyclopedia article, then did so in a lot of places (with one exception, where I can't understand what the sentence is saying for me to correct it). In the case of the Bogoda article, it's not very practical for me to start hunting down references on the internet to see where you and everyone else that edited that article got all that information from- its easier for the people who put that info in (yourself and the other contributors) to think "ah yes, I got that piece of information from X website, so I'll put that in!". Otherwise, I'd have to sit at my PC for hours looking for random news articles and/or other publications. Also, the usual practice (as far as I'm aware) on Wikipedia when there are issues with an article is to place a maintenance tag on the article, for two reasons: one, there is no single 'owner' of any article, so there's no one person we have to write messages to or notify, and two, if we start doing that, we have to go and write messages to every editor who had contributed to the article, which includes you and several others, since I have no way of knowing who added which bits of information to the article without sitting there for hours and going through every single edit. You can see again that this is not practical, and goes against common practice on Wikipedia.
- Finally, having contributed to expanding and creating articles on Wikipedia, I know just how much work needs to be put into creating even a small article. The template is not a personal attack, and with respect, I think you're taking it too personally. A maintenance template isn't saying your article is bad, or that you're a bad editor, but is a request from the community to help fix issues with the article. I don't think removing the template is a good idea, since that is counterproductive to what we're all trying to do here- improving the article. I'd suggest that you go back over the article, try and remember where you got the information you added from, then put them in as proper inline citations; the article might stay up for a year or even more, but eventually someone else is going to notice, and the article might end up being cut down to a stub, which would be a shame. I would also suggest that you not expect other editors to contact you personally over articles you may have created or edited, since that isn't how it's done on here.
- I apologize again if you thought I was trying to attack you personally- that wasn't my intent at all. But the issues on the Anula K article, and your removal of a maintenance template without addressing the issues in that article made me check what other articles you'd written, and that's when I noticed this article that had this reference issue with it. I would try and help, but since I didn't add any content to that article, I have no idea where you and the other editors got your info from, so its up to you guys to add the references. - ක - (talk) 13:25, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
Re: Following the directions of Jesuschristonacame
Thank you so much, I really appreciate your time and clean and pleasing explanation about various aspect of the article. It is really helping me to look at things in more broader term. Firstly, please apologize - I did not feel that you were attacking me - Of course, you have no reason to do so... wondering how you got that feelings. Please, trust me nothing I took personally. May be my comments are harsh! if you felt anything uncomfortable, please apologize. Let me to be with you and follow your guidance. Yes, Anula Karunathilaka article desperately needs full review from the all aspects. I quickly submitted it for review since the review take months, with the expectations to continue once its reviewed by an senior editor. When it comes to WB article, you have mentioned about lack of "inline citations"- indeed I guessed that might the issue of the WB article. Initially as I mentioned that "editors" have the power to control articles, my experience was, editor who helped the article a lot by reviewing it, suggested me to remove a number of inline citations, that is why as you have noticed, some of the sections/paragraphs of the article have no adequate citations. Some time, another editor will find some other reasons to add a MT to the article. I understand that is the nature of the Wikipedia, and we somehow got to deal with it! As you say no owner for an article but there can be many contributors I understand that is how an article is developed to meet the Wikipedia's standards etc. On the other side, if editors keep placing MTs based on different shortcomings, an article will never be completed! So, with all these concerns, I have added all the possible citations, references, and external links to make the article's reference back up more strong. Now, with your instructions, I understand, WB article needs more reference support in terms inline citations. I will continue improving the articles. I also request you please note that I have no much technical knowledge on some of the areas of Wikipedia technicalities. So, always the instructions of experienced editors like you are very helpful.
Thank you, Sincerely, rane2030 Rane2030 17:41, 4 February 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rane2030 (talk • contribs)
Nomination of Shangri-La Hotel, Colombo for deletion
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A barnstar for you!
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- Thanks! :D - ක - (talk) 10:13, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Help with merger
Hi there. Hope you are safe. Would you mind helping with this please? I've noticed you've done a good job at this article. My connection is too choppy due to TRC intervention. Traffic on these topics will soon surge as TRC has blocked access to certain other sites... Cheers, Rehman 09:14, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
- "Traffic on these topics will soon surge as TRC has blocked access to certain other sites..."
- @Rehman:It has begun. - ක - (talk) 11:47, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
ITN recognition for 2018 anti-Muslim riots in Sri Lanka
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Old Parliament Building
Understand you rationale for leaving the description as the Old Parliament Building, however some of your other changes don't follow standard formatting such as Sri Lanka rupees should be Rs not LKR (particularly as this relates to the 1930s), it is not the New Parliament Complex but the new Parliament Complex, republicization should be republicisation (actually not even certain if such word exists). probably needs a fresh set of eyes. Dan arndt (talk) 07:27, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Dan arndt: To be fair, I did put in "Ceylonese rupees" before your edit, but I do admit LKR would be a misnomer. The word was "republicanization" by the way, not "republicization", which I did check online to see if it did exist (both Oxford and Merriam-Webster list it, and Wikitionary lists "republicanize". The British/American spelling I leave up to the community). I do check my edits, yknow.- ක - (talk) 07:48, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
- Wasn’t meant as criticism, I think you’re doing a great job, particularly when you look at what your starting with. There are great deal of Lankan articles that need a lot of work just to bring them up to scratch. Dan arndt (talk) 13:43, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
Orphaned non-free image File:De La Salle CMB crest.png
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- @ShakespeareFan00: I'm going to assume you're using a bot to do this, because this is getting ridiculous now. I upload the image at 6:35pm my time, you place an orphan tag on it at 6:40pm, a minute after I put it on the article I was editing. Is it usually your policy to place such tags on images mere minutes after they're uploaded? There's only so much we can do in 5 minutes- give people a break.- ක - (talk) 13:13, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
- No bots. And your concern is noted. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 13:16, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Images
i realized my mistake of uploading photos from the net but one photo (Anusha Gunaskera) is actually my own work so i want to restore it please 2nd Innings (talk) 06:44, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- Actual own work is fine, but you may notice I didn't tag Anusha's, Hector Kobbekaduwa's or CP de Silva's photos for deletion, since I can't prove they were found from another website. That was done by another editor, and I'm afraid you will have to make your case at the discussion page to prevent them being deleted. - ක - (talk) 06:47, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
Cropping images
By way of information for the future, when you want to crop an image on the commons, as you did for File:US Navy 050221-N-4702D-060 Machinist Mate 1st Class Michael A. Hohn shows the Commander of the Sri Lanka Navy, Vice Adm. D.W.K. Sandagiri, the different equipment a Sailor must monitor while on watch (cropped).jpg, I suggest you use the CropTool that can be activated in your commons Preferences, under Gadgets. The CropTool will then appears in the left side of your commons screen. It saves everyone a lot of time because it transfers all the correct and appropriate information into the cropped image, such as source, license, author, etc. It even leaves a backlink to the original and visa versa so long as the original has been positively reviewed. That way all the proper information is there and does not need to be manually reviewed. If you are just cropping a small bit of the image like a frame you can decide to overwrite the original image but for more major crops you should upload the cropped version as a separate new image, as you did with this one, but you have a choice. I hope you can see how everyone can save time and effort by using CropTool. You also added a wrong licence but I have now fixed it and added the appropriate backlinks to each image. Check them out. BTW CropTool does not work on the enwiki. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 11:04, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info. I'll do that from now on! :) - ක - (talk) 11:06, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, I was reviewing c:File:Ceylon Dull Rose.jpg and fixing the licence that was inaccurate, so I had a look through some of your previous uploads which is how I caught that one. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 11:08, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- What was wrong with the license btw? - ක - (talk) 11:11, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, I was reviewing c:File:Ceylon Dull Rose.jpg and fixing the licence that was inaccurate, so I had a look through some of your previous uploads which is how I caught that one. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 11:08, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I was in the middle of work and couldn't check my watchlist. Just saw your edit now.
See, I wasn't sure if the Government of Ceylon counted as its own entity or just came under the umbrella of the British one. Thanks for clearing that up though. - ක - (talk) 11:27, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
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Sri Lankan Hip Hop
I'm up to the challenge are you? Noting your comments on the AfD I thought that you might be interested in collaborating on a re-write. Dan arndt (talk) 08:15, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Dan arndt: I wish I could, but I'm snowed under with work in real life, and won't be able to do anything big until the end of July :( - ක - (talk) 14:52, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- No dramas, drop in if you have some spare time - your contributions are always welcome. Dan arndt (talk) 12:46, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
NPR Newsletter No.12 30 July 2018
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Hello Jesuschristonacamel, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
- June backlog drive
Overall the June backlog drive was a success, reducing the last 3,000 or so to below 500. However, as expected, 90% of the patrolling was done by less than 10% of reviewers.
Since the drive closed, the backlog has begun to rise sharply again and is back up to nearly 1,400 already. Please help reduce this total and keep it from raising further by reviewing some articles each day.
- New technology, new rules
- New features are shortly going to be added to the Special:NewPagesFeed which include a list of drafts for review, OTRS flags for COPYVIO, and more granular filter preferences. More details can be found at this page.
- Probationary permissions: Now that PERM has been configured to allow expiry dates to all minor user rights, new NPR flag holders may sometimes be limited in the first instance to 6 months during which their work will be assessed for both quality and quantity of their reviews. This will allow admins to accord the right in borderline cases rather than make a flat out rejection.
- Current reviewers who have had the flag for longer than 6 months but have not used the permissions since they were granted will have the flag removed, but may still request to have it granted again in the future, subject to the same probationary period, if they wish to become an active reviewer.
- Editathons
- Editathons will continue through August. Please be gentle with new pages that obviously come from good faith participants, especially articles from developing economies and ones about female subjects. Consider using the 'move to draft' tool rather than bluntly tagging articles that may have potential but which cannot yet reside in mainspace.
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RUOK? Comment
Is everything alright? Just noted your recent outburst on the Sri Lankan talkpage. Is there anything I can assist with? Dan arndt (talk) 22:56, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Dan arndt: Is it a general habit to avoid replying to messages there and instead post condescending messages on private talk pages? What was an outburst about it? I simply responded to the comments made there, and the community's arrogant, selfish outlook and your avoidance of my question on a user that was openly pushing a nationalist agenda. Did you post a message of this type on his talk page when Blackknight pretty much insulted everyone else except you?
- You can assist me by replying to messages there where everyone can see them, not here. - ක - (talk) 04:47, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
- I wasn’t being condescending but am genuinely concerned that you obviously felt aggrieved. I believed that I had put forward my position in respect to enthnicity of politicians, so my apologies for not responding to your query. I have since rectified that with a further comment on the Sri Lankan talk page. Dan arndt (talk) 10:12, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
- Hello, I'm sorry if you took my reply in a negative way, but it wasn't meant as an insult. I have been on wikipedia for nearly 10 years and if its one thing I have learnt its that you have to pick the right battles. Some things, and users, are worth the time and effort and many are not. You should have a thicker skin, I have seen many leave wikipedia over the years. I had been vaguely following your discussion on the topic of Ethnicity of Politicians, and even though I agree with the jist of what you are saying, I chose not to participate hoping it would work itself out. Clearly that hasn't. If you hit a brick wall there are other places to take this like the Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard. You shouldn't let this deter you from making productive edits here. Its sad that you had left as you have contributed much to Sri Lankan articles. I hope you reconsider.--Blackknight12 (talk) 11:34, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
- I wasn’t being condescending but am genuinely concerned that you obviously felt aggrieved. I believed that I had put forward my position in respect to enthnicity of politicians, so my apologies for not responding to your query. I have since rectified that with a further comment on the Sri Lankan talk page. Dan arndt (talk) 10:12, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
Hey there. Our community came this far because of hard work of genuine contributors like yourself, and people like you is what keeps this community healthy. I had bumpy times in the past as well, and had given up multiple times. I sincerely hope you would reconsider to come back after a proper break from Wikipedia. As I've explained to you earlier, it is important that we stick together. Warm regards, Rehman 13:46, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
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NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018
Hello Jesuschristonacamel, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.
- Project news
- The New Page Feed now has a new "Articles for Creation" option which will show drafts instead of articles in the feed, this shouldn't impact NPP activities and is part of the WMF's AfC Improvement Project.
- As part of this project, the feed will have some larger updates to functionality next month. Specifically, ORES predictions will be built in, which will automatically flag articles for potential issues such as vandalism or spam. Copyright violation detection will also be added to the new page feed. See the projects's talk page for more info.
- There are a number of coordination tasks for New Page Patrol that could use some help from experienced reviewers. See Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Coordination#Coordinator tasks for more info to see if you can help out.
- Other
- A new summary page of reliable sources has been created; Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources/Perennial sources, which summarizes existing RfCs or RSN discussions about regularly used sources.
- Moving to Draft and Page Mover
- Some unsuitable new articles can be best reviewed by moving them to the draft space, but reviewers need to do this carefully and sparingly. It is most useful for topics that look like they might have promise, but where the article as written would be unlikely to survive AfD. If the article can be easily fixed, or if the only issue is a lack of sourcing that is easily accessible, tagging or adding sources yourself is preferable. If sources do not appear to be available and the topic does not appear to be notable, tagging for deletion is preferable (PROD/AfD/CSD as appropriate). See additional guidance at WP:DRAFTIFY.
- If the user moves the draft back to mainspace, or recreates it in mainspace, please do not re-draftify the article (although swapping it to maintain the page history may be advisable in the case of copy-paste moves). AfC is optional except for editors with a clear conflict of interest.
- Articles that have been created in contravention of our paid-editing-requirements or written from a blatant NPOV perspective, or by authors with a clear COI might also be draftified at discretion.
- The best tool for draftification is User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js(info). Kindly adapt the text in the dialogue-pop-up as necessary (the default can also be changed like this). Note that if you do not have the Page Mover userright, the redirect from main will be automatically tagged as CSD R2, but in some cases it might be better to make this a redirect to a different page instead.
- The Page Mover userright can be useful for New Page Reviewers; occasionally page swapping is needed during NPR activities, and it helps avoid excessive R2 nominations which must be processed by admins. Note that the Page Mover userright has higher requirements than the NPR userright, and is generally given to users active at Requested Moves. Only reviewers who are very experienced and are also very active reviewers are likely to be granted it solely for NPP activities.
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NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018
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- Backlog
As of 21 October 2018[update], there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.
- Community Wishlist Proposal
- There is currently an ongoing discussion regarding the drafting of a Community Wishlist Proposal for the purpose of requesting bug fixes and missing/useful features to be added to the New Page Feed and Curation Toolbar.
- Please join the conversation as we only have until 29 October to draft this proposal!
- Project updates
- ORES predictions are now built-in to the feed. These automatically predict the class of an article as well as whether it may be spam, vandalism, or an attack page, and can be filtered by these criteria now allowing reviewers to better target articles that they prefer to review.
- There are now tools being tested to automatically detect copyright violations in the feed. This detector may not be accurate all the time, though, so it shouldn't be relied on 100% and will only start working on new revisions to pages, not older pages in the backlog.
- New scripts
- User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel.js(info) — A new script created for quickly placing {{copyvio-revdel}} on a page.
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NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018
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- Community Wishlist Survey – NPP needs you – Vote NOW
- Community Wishlist Voting takes place 16 to 30 November for the Page Curation and New Pages Feed improvements, and other software requests. The NPP community is hoping for a good turnout in support of the requests to Santa for the tools we need. This is very important as we have been asking the Foundation for these upgrades for 4 years.
- If this proposal does not make it into the top ten, it is likely that the tools will be given no support at all for the foreseeable future. So please put in a vote today.
- We are counting on significant support not only from our own ranks, but from everyone who is concerned with maintaining a Wikipedia that is free of vandalism, promotion, flagrant financial exploitation and other pollution.
- With all 650 reviewers voting for these urgently needed improvements, our requests would be unlikely to fail. See also The Signpost Special report: 'NPP: This could be heaven or this could be hell for new users – and for the reviewers', and if you are not sure what the wish list is all about, take a sneak peek at an article in this month's upcoming issue of The Signpost which unfortunately due to staff holidays and an impending US holiday will probably not be published until after voting has closed.
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NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018
Hello Jesuschristonacamel,
- Reviewer of the Year
This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to Onel5969. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554 reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285 edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.
- Thanks are also extended for their work to JTtheOG (15,059 reviews), Boleyn (12,760 reviews), Cwmhiraeth (9,001 reviews), Semmendinger (8,440 reviews), PRehse (8,092 reviews), Arthistorian1977 (5,306 reviews), Abishe (4,153 reviews), Barkeep49 (4,016 reviews), and Elmidae (3,615 reviews).
Cwmhiraeth, Semmendinger, Barkeep49, and Elmidae have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only seven months, while Boleyn, with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.
See also the list of top 100 reviewers.
- Less good news, and an appeal for some help
The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640 holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.
- Really good news - NPR wins the Community Wishlist Survey 2019
At #1 position, the Community Wishlist poll closed on 3 December with a resounding success for NPP, reminding the WMF and the volunteer communities just how critical NPP is to maintaining a clean encyclopedia and the need for improved tools to do it. A big 'thank you' to everyone who supported the NPP proposals. See the results.
- Training video
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Overlinking and other issues
Hi, thanks for your milhist work. I came across one fascinating story you've written up. Please note the following:
- You're overlinking, in particular chronological terms
- horsepower needs a metric conversion (in two places)
- use a proper multiplication sign rather than "x". The button is under the edit box.
Thanks. Tony (talk) 11:20, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Tony1: Thanks for the comment, but I'm afraid I no longer use this account- just logged in to unsubscribe from a few newsletters and such. On the point of the overlinking, I disagree- I feel it's only a matter of opinion. Besides, from a quick skim of the edit you linked, the only chronological term you've taken out is the link to 20th century, which I felt needed a link since this article related to WW2 and events of the 20th c in particular, and it would be helpful for someone to go look at related topics on that page. Since I don't edit on Wikipedia now anyway though, I have no intention of reverting the edit. On the two others, I can only say I lifted the infobox and the formatting/style from another ship's page- I don't have any experience making up pages for ships myself at all. Thanks for the pointers anyway :) - ක - (talk) 09:04, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- Please read the site guidelines: WP:OVERLINK. Tony (talk) 01:02, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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NPR Newsletter No.17
Hello Jesuschristonacamel,
- News
- The WMF has announced that Google Translate is now available for translating articles through the content translation tool. This may result in an increase in machine translated articles in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to use the {{rough translation}} tag and gently remind (or inform) editors that translations from other language Wikipedia pages still require attribution per WP:TFOLWP.
- Discussions of interest
- Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
- {{db-blankdraft}} was merged into G13 (Discussion)
- A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
- There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.
- Reminders
- NPR is not a binary keep / delete process. In many cases a redirect may be appropriate. The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. Redirects are not contentious. See a classic example of the templates to use. More templates are listed at the R template index. Reviewers who are not aware, do please take this into consideration before PROD, CSD, and especially AfD because not even all admins are aware of such policies, and many NAC do not have a full knowledge of them.
- NPP Tools Report
- Superlinks – allows you to check an article's history, logs, talk page, NPP flowchart (on unpatrolled pages) and more without navigating away from the article itself.
- copyvio-check – automatically checks the copyvio percentage of new pages in the background and displays this info with a link to the report in the 'info' panel of the Page curation toolbar.
- The NPP flowchart now has clickable hyperlinks.
Six Month Queue Data: Today – Low – 2393 High – 4828
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NPR Newsletter No.18
Hello Jesuschristonacamel,
- WMF at work on NPP Improvements
Niharika Kohli, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:
- Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
- Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.
- Reliable Sources for NPP
Rosguill has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.
- Backlog drive coming soon
Look for information on the an upcoming backlog drive in our next newsletter. If you'd like to help plan this drive, join in the discussion on the New Page Patrol talk page.
- News
- Following a request for comment, the subject-specific notability guideline for pornographic actors and models (WP:PORNBIO) was removed; in its place, editors should consult WP:ENT and WP:GNG.
- Discussions of interest
- A request for bot approval for a bot to patrol two kinds of redirects
- There has been a lot discussion about Notability of Academics
- What, if anything, would a SNG for Softball look like
Six Month Queue Data: Today – 7242 Low – 2393 High – 7250
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New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019
Hello Jesuschristonacamel,
- WMF at work on NPP Improvements
More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important.
- QUALITY of REVIEWING
Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR.
- Backlog
The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever.
- Move to draft
NPR is triage, it is not a clean up clinic. This move feature is not limited to bios so you may have to slightly re-edit the text in the template before you save the move. Anything that is not fit for mainspace but which might have some promise can be draftified - particularly very poor English and machine and other low quality translations.
- Notifying users
Remember to use the message feature if you are just tagging an article for maintenance rather than deletion. Otherwise articles are likely to remain perma-tagged. Many creators are SPA and have no intention of returning to Wikipedia. Use the feature too for leaving a friendly note note for the author of a first article you found well made or interesting. Many have told us they find such comments particularly welcoming and encouraging.
- PERM
Admins are now taking advantage of the new time-limited user rights feature. If you have recently been accorded NPR, do check your user rights to see if this affects you. Depending on your user account preferences, you may receive automated notifications of your rights changes. Requests for permissions are not mini-RfAs. Helpful comments are welcome if absolutely necessary, but the bot does a lot of the work and the final decision is reserved for admins who do thorough research anyway.
- Other news
School and academic holidays will begin soon in various places around the Western world. Be on the lookout for the usual increase in hoax, attack, and other junk pages.
Our next newsletter might be announcing details of a possible election for co-ordinators of NPR. If you think you have what it takes to micro manage NPR, take a look at New Page Review Coordinators - it's a job that requires a lot of time and dedication.
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New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019
Hello Jesuschristonacamel,
- Backlog
Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
- Coordinator
A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.
- This month's refresher course
Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.
- Deletion tags
Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon (you will need to have 'Nominated for deletion' enabled for this in your filters) may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders using Twinkle. They require your further verification.
- Paid editing
Please be sure to look for the tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. WMF policy requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.
- Subject-specific notability guidelines' (SNG). Alternatives to deletion
- Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves once more with notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
- Blank-and-Redirect is a solution anchored in policy. Please consider this alternative before PRODing or CSD. Note however, that users will often revert or usurp redirects to re-create deleted articles. Do regularly patrol the redirects in the feed.
- Not English
- A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, and if they do have potential, tag as required, then move to draft. Modify the text of the template as appropriate before sending it.
- Tools
Regular reviewers will appreciate the most recent enhancements to the New Pages Feed and features in the Curation tool, and there are still more to come. Due to the wealth of information now displayed by ORES, reviewers are strongly encouraged to use the system now rather than Twinkle; it will also correctly populate the logs.
Stub sorting, by SD0001: A new script is available for adding/removing stub tags. See User:SD0001/StubSorter.js, It features a simple HotCat-style dynamic search field. Many of the reviewers who are using it are finding it an improvement upon other available tools.
Assessment: The script at User:Evad37/rater makes the addition of Wikiproject templates extremely easy. New page creators rarely do this. Reviewers are not obliged to make these edits but they only take a few seconds. They can use the Curation message system to let the creator know what they have done.
DannyS712 bot III is now patrolling certain categories of uncontroversial redirects. Curious? Check out its patrol log.
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New Page Review newsletter November 2019
Hello Jesuschristonacamel,
This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon.
- Getting the queue to 0
There are now 803 holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action.
Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.
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Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some really cool awards.
- Coordinator
Admin Barkeep49 has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers.
- This month's refresher course
Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources.
- Tools
- It is now possible to select new pages by date range. This was requested by reviewers who want to patrol from the middle of the list.
- It is now also possible for accredited reviewers to put any article back into the New Pages Feed for re-review. The link is under 'Tools' in the side bar.
- Reviewer Feedback
Would you like feedback on your reviews? Are you an experienced reviewer who can give feedback to other reviewers? If so there are two new feedback pilot programs. New Reviewer mentorship will match newer reviewers with an experienced reviewer with a new reviewer. The other program will be an occasional peer review cohort for moderate or experienced reviewers to give feedback to each other. The first cohort will launch November 13.
- Second set of eyes
- Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work, especially while some routine tagging for deletion can still be carried out by non NPR holders and inexperienced users. Read about it at the Monitoring the system section in the tutorial. If you come across such editors doing good work, don't hesitate to encourage them to apply for NPR.
- Do be sure to have our talk page on your watchlist. There are often items that require reviewers' special attention, such as to watch out for pages by known socks or disruptive editors, technical issues and new developments, and of course to provide advice for other reviewers.
- Arbitration Committee
The annual ArbCom election will be coming up soon. All eligible users will be invited to vote. While not directly concerned with NPR, Arbcom cases often lead back to notability and deletion issues and/or actions by holders of advanced user rights.
- Community Wish list
There is to be no wish list for WMF encyclopedias this year. We thank Community Tech for their hard work addressing our long list of requirements which somewhat overwhelmed them last year, and we look forward to a successful completion.
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New Page Review newsletter December 2019
- Reviewer of the Year
This year's Reviewer of the Year is Rosguill. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.
Special commendation again goes to Onel5969 who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to Boleyn and JTtheOG who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.
Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.
Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.
Rank | Username | Num reviews | Log |
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1 | Rosguill (talk) | 47,395 | Patrol Page Curation |
2 | Onel5969 (talk) | 41,883 | Patrol Page Curation |
3 | JTtheOG (talk) | 11,493 | Patrol Page Curation |
4 | Arthistorian1977 (talk) | 5,562 | Patrol Page Curation |
5 | DannyS712 (talk) | 4,866 | Patrol Page Curation |
6 | CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk) | 3,995 | Patrol Page Curation |
7 | DragonflySixtyseven (talk) | 3,812 | Patrol Page Curation |
8 | Boleyn (talk) | 3,655 | Patrol Page Curation |
9 | Ymblanter (talk) | 3,553 | Patrol Page Curation |
10 | Cwmhiraeth (talk) | 3,522 | Patrol Page Curation |
(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)
- Redirect autopatrol
A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by DannyS712 bot III.
- Source Guide Discussion
Set to launch early in the new year is our first New Page Patrol Source Guide discussion. These discussions are designed to solicit input on sources in places and topic areas that might otherwise be harder for reviewers to evaluate. The hope is that this will allow us to improve the accuracy of our patrols for articles using these sources (and/or give us places to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion). Please watch the New Page Patrol talk page for more information.
- This month's refresher course
While New Page Reviewers are an experienced set of editors, we all benefit from an occasional review. This month consider refreshing yourself on Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features). Also consider how we can take the time for quality in this area. For instance, sources to verify human settlements, which are presumed notable, can often be found in seconds. This lets us avoid the (ugly) 'Needs more refs' tag.
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New Page Reviewer newsletter February 2020
Hello Jesuschristonacamel,
- Source Guide Discussion
The first NPP source guide discussion is now underway. It covers a wide range of sources in Ghana with the goal of providing more guidance to reviewers about sources they might see when reviewing pages. Hopefully, new page reviewers will join others interested in reliable sources and those with expertise in these sources to make the discussion a success.
- Redirects
New to NPP? Looking to try something a little different? Consider patrolling some redirects. Redirects are relatively easy to review, can be found easily through the New Pages Feed. You can find more information about how to patrol redirects at WP:RPATROL.
- Discussions and Resources
- There is an ongoing discussion around changing notifications for new editors who attempt to write articles.
- A recent discussion of whether Michelin starred restraunts are notable was archived without closure.
- A resource page with links pertinent for reviewers was created this month.
- A proposal to increase the scope of G5 was withdrawn.
- Refresher
Geographic regions, areas and places generally do not need general notability guideline type sourcing. When evaluating whether an article meets this notability guideline please also consider whether it might actually be a form of WP:SPAM for a development project (e.g. PR for a large luxury residential development) and not actually covered by the guideline.
Six Month Queue Data: Today – 7095 Low – 4991 High – 7095
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New Page Reviewer newsletter June 2020
Hello Jesuschristonacamel,
- Your help can make a difference
NPP Sorting can be a great way to find pages needing new page patrolling that match your strengths and interests. Using ORES, it divides articles into topics such as Literature or Chemistry and on Geography. Take a look and see if you can find time to patrol a couple pages a day. With over 10,000 pages in the queue, the highest it's been since ACPERM, your help could really make a difference.
- Google Adds New Languages to Google Translate
In late February, Google added 5 new languages to Google Translate: Kinyarwanda, Odia (Oriya), Tatar, Turkmen and Uyghur. This expands our ability to find and evaluate sources in those languages.
- Discussions and Resources
- A discussion on handling new article creation by paid editors is ongoing at the Village Pump.
- Also at the Village Pump is a discussion about limiting participation at Articles for Deletion discussion.
- A proposed new speedy deletion criteria for certain kinds of redirects ended with no consensus.
- Also ending with no change was a proposal to change how we handle certain kinds of vector images.
Six Month Queue Data: Today – 10271 Low – 4991 High – 10271
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New Page Patrol December Newsletter
Hello Jesuschristonacamel,
- Year in review
It has been a productive year for New Page Patrol as we've roughly cut the size of the New Page Patrol queue in half this year. We have been fortunate to have a lot of great work done by Rosguill who was the reviewer of the most pages and redirects this past year. Thanks and credit go to JTtheOG and Onel5969 who join Rosguill in repeating in the top 10 from last year. Thanks to John B123, Hughesdarren, and Mccapra who all got the NPR permission this year and joined the top 10. Also new to the top ten is DannyS712 bot III, programmed by DannyS712 which has helped to dramatically reduce the number of redirects that have needed human patrolling by patrolling certain types of redirects (e.g. for differences in accents) and by also patrolling editors who are on on the redirect whitelist.
Rank | Username | Num reviews | Log |
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1 | DannyS712 bot III (talk) | 67,552 | Patrol Page Curation |
2 | Rosguill (talk) | 63,821 | Patrol Page Curation |
3 | John B123 (talk) | 21,697 | Patrol Page Curation |
4 | Onel5969 (talk) | 19,879 | Patrol Page Curation |
5 | JTtheOG (talk) | 12,901 | Patrol Page Curation |
6 | Mcampany (talk) | 9,103 | Patrol Page Curation |
7 | DragonflySixtyseven (talk) | 6,401 | Patrol Page Curation |
8 | Mccapra (talk) | 4,918 | Patrol Page Curation |
9 | Hughesdarren (talk) | 4,520 | Patrol Page Curation |
10 | Utopes (talk) | 3,958 | Patrol Page Curation |
- Reviewer of the Year
John B123 has been named reviewer of the year for 2020. John has held the permission for just over 6 months and in that time has helped cut into the queue by reviewing more than 18,000 articles. His talk page shows his efforts to communicate with users, upholding NPP's goal of nurturing new users and quality over quantity.
- NPP Technical Achievement Award
As a special recognition and thank you DannyS712 has been awarded the first NPP Technical Achievement Award. His work programming the bot has helped us patrol redirects tremendously - more than 60,000 redirects this past year. This has been a large contribution to New Page Patrol and definitely is worthy of recognition.
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New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021
Hello Jesuschristonacamel,
Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Wikipedia and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.
Copyright violations are also a serious issue. Most non-regular contributors do not understand why, and most of our Reviewers are not experts on copyright law - and can't be expected to be, but there is excellent, easy-to-follow advice on COPYVIO detection here.
At the time of the last newsletter (#25, December 2020) the backlog was only just over 2,000 articles. New Page Review is an official system. It's the only firewall against the inclusion of new, improper pages.
There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.
If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process or its software.
Various awards are due to be allocated by the end of the year and barnstars are overdue. If you would like to manage this, please let us know. Indeed, if you are interested in coordinating NPR, it does not involve much time and the tasks are described here.
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New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022
Hello Jesuschristonacamel,
At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.
Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.
In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently 803 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 851 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.
This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.
If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, do suggest they help the effort by placing {{subst:NPR invite}}
on their talk page.
If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.
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New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
Hello Jesuschristonacamel,
- Backlog status
At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000[a] at the end of May.
Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.[b]
In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).
While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).
- Backlog drive
A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.
- TIP – New school articles
Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.
- Misc
There is a new template available, {{NPP backlog}}
, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:
Very high unreviewed pages backlog: 13236 articles, as of 02:00, 23 November 2024 (UTC), according to DatBot
There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.
- Reminders
- Consider staying informed on project issues by putting the project discussion page on your watchlist.
- If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, suggest they help the effort by placing
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NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!
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New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022
Hello Jesuschristonacamel,
- Backlog status
After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.
Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.
- Coordination
- MB and Novem Linguae have taken on some of the coordination tasks. Please let them know if you are interested in helping out. MPGuy2824 will be handling recognition, and will be retroactively awarding the annual barnstars that have not been issued for a few years.
- Open letter to the WMF
- The Page Curation software needs urgent attention. There are dozens of bug fixes and enhancements that are stalled (listed at Suggested improvements). We have written a letter to be sent to the WMF and we encourage as many patrollers as possible to sign it here. We are also in negotiation with the Board of Trustees to press for assistance. Better software will make the active reviewers we have more productive.
- TIP - Reviewing by subject
- Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages by their most familiar subjects can do so from the regularly updated sorted topic list.
- New reviewers
- The NPP School is being underused. The learning curve for NPP is quite steep, but a detailed and easy-to-read tutorial exists, and the Curation Tool's many features are fully described and illustrated on the updated page here.
- Reminders
- Consider staying informed on project issues by putting the project discussion page on your watchlist.
- If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, suggest they help the effort by placing
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NPP message
Hi Jesuschristonacamel,
- Invitation
For those who may have missed it in our last newsletter, here's a quick reminder to see the letter we have drafted, and if you support it, do please go ahead and sign it. If you already signed, thanks. Also, if you haven't noticed, the backlog has been trending up lately; all reviews are greatly appreciated.
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