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NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018

Hello JDDJS,

Reviewer of the Year

This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to Onel5969. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554 reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285 edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.

Thanks are also extended for their work to JTtheOG (15,059 reviews), Boleyn (12,760 reviews), Cwmhiraeth (9,001 reviews), Semmendinger (8,440 reviews), PRehse (8,092 reviews), Arthistorian1977 (5,306 reviews), Abishe (4,153 reviews), Barkeep49 (4,016 reviews), and Elmidae (3,615 reviews).
Cwmhiraeth, Semmendinger, Barkeep49, and Elmidae have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only seven months, while Boleyn, with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Doomsdayer520. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (soundtrack), and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 17:32, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Why? JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 18:57, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Because I'm an idiot who hit the wrong button while doing a routine edit elsewhere in the article. I reset it to "Reviewed". Sorry for the confusion! ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 19:01, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Gotcha. It happens. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 22:25, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Two of the songs, Night Train and That's My Kind of Night, were sourced. --MHCGX90D (talk) 17:05, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Help

This help request has been answered. If you need more help, you can ask another question on your talk page, contact the responding user(s) directly on their user talk page, or consider visiting the Teahouse.

Is there a way to request a copy of a deleted page? While I do feel that it was the right call to delete the page, I loved reading List of games from Whose Line Is It Anyway?, and would love to save a copy of it on my computer. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 03:37, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Your best bet is to contact one of the administrators listed at Category:Wikipedia_administrators_willing_to_provide_copies_of_deleted_articles. 78.28.54.83 (talk) 03:49, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Ryan Stiles

Hello. I had reversed an edit that you stated to be a Category, not the lead (which you have now reversed as being the lead). The category is earned. And, two credits does make him a director– one director credit, in fact, would make one a director in the film world –though I agree it should not be in the lead, as a minor role in his professional career. I don't see why you would deny him the category, which is clearly displayed on IMDB. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0830198/#director Lindenfall (talk) 18:13, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Your userboxes

Hi, I'm new and slowly just picking a few things up and just letting you know I edited your userboxes, well, tidied them up. I hope that's ok. Warm regards ( Amnesiac radar (talk) 05:34, 6 February 2019 (UTC) )

List: Cast of Avatar: The Last Airbender listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect List: Cast of Avatar: The Last Airbender. Since you had some involvement with the List: Cast of Avatar: The Last Airbender redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:45, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Bohemian Rhapsody RfC

Hi there. I saw you requested closure of the Bohemian Rhapsody RfC. Given the agreement of all participants there per Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment#Ending_RfCs there is no need for a formal closure and so I've undone your request. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:22, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.17

Hello JDDJS,

News

The WMF has announced that Google Translate is now available for translating articles through the content translation tool. This may result in an increase in machine translated articles in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to use the {{rough translation}} tag and gently remind (or inform) editors that translations from other language Wikipedia pages still require attribution per WP:TFOLWP.

Discussions of interest

Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
{{db-blankdraft}} was merged into G13 (Discussion)
A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.

Reminders

NPR is not a binary keep / delete process. In many cases a redirect may be appropriate. The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. Redirects are not contentious. See a classic example of the templates to use. More templates are listed at the R template index. Reviewers who are not aware, do please take this into consideration before PROD, CSD, and especially AfD because not even all admins are aware of such policies, and many NAC do not have a full knowledge of them.

NPP Tools Report

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Confirm Involvement in WikiProject Disney

Hello JDDJS! I'm a new member of the Disney WikiProject. I'm trying to confirm who is still interested in the WikiProject in hopes to build a team of that can revamp the project. Please let me know if you would like to stay on the list of active members, or if I can go ahead and move to you the list of inactive members. You can do so by replying to this message and including the {{reply to|GeekInParadise}} tag. Happy editing! GeekInParadise (talk) 03:31, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Freddie Mercury film

Why are you censoring a talk page?!?! Let everyone have their say. There are a lot of historical inaccuracies with the film, and we are trying to figure out how to proceed with a film that is allegedly a biography but changed up a lot of things. Just add to the talk yourself. If you think it is a hoax, then say so. Other's disagree with you. You can't enforce how you feel or think.166.180.233.130 (talk) 00:02, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Please don't violate 3RR. You have made your third revert. It is just a debate about the historical inaccuracies of the movie versus the history. Why not just let it play out? Have good faith and good day.166.180.233.130 (talk) 00:05, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

They are discussing whether or not Mercury was magically cured of AIDS before getting the disease again. That is obvious not true and it's not at all productive to even discuss it. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 00:06, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

That's just dumb. I don't see anyone saying anything about magic. Maybe it was his faith? Or even Jesus? He cured the blind and resurrected the dead. Or maybe the good vibes contributed to his body fighting off the infection. The same studies that show that you don't need vaccines because the body can create its own antibodies also say that you can cure anything, even stage 4 cancer, with a positive attitude. The whole world was watching and loving Queen! Can you prove that his AIDS didn't go into remission? I'm just saying, you never know. That's why we have debates. Take care and thanks for being civil.166.180.233.130 (talk) 00:21, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Blanking sourced content

Please do not blank sourced content based on your own original research, as you did in this edit. As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia is based on reliable sources, not what individual contributors feel is true. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:38, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.18

Hello JDDJS,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

Niharika Kohli, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:

Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.

Reliable Sources for NPP

Rosguill has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.

Backlog drive coming soon

Look for information on the an upcoming backlog drive in our next newsletter. If you'd like to help plan this drive, join in the discussion on the New Page Patrol talk page.

News

Following a request for comment, the subject-specific notability guideline for pornographic actors and models (WP:PORNBIO) was removed; in its place, editors should consult WP:ENT and WP:GNG.

Discussions of interest

A request for bot approval for a bot to patrol two kinds of redirects
There has been a lot discussion about Notability of Academics
What, if anything, would a SNG for Softball look like

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Why was Nepeta deleted from the List of Fictional Autistic Characters?

I am very new to Wikipedia, sorry if this question is unwanted or not allowed! Thank you.-— Preceding unsigned comment added by RetroPacifist (talk • contribs)

I removed it because there was no source. You need a reliable source to add that character to the list. Additionally, to be added to that article, the character needs to be confirmed to be autistic (by a creator or in the show/comic/tv/etc). JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 04:37, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Okay, I see. Nepeta has been confirmed in canon as autistic, how do I add a reference? RetroPacifist (talk) 04:49, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Since this a webcomic, you simply need to find a link to a comic in which they say the character is autistic. Add the link at the end of the characters in between <ref> and </ref>. So it will look like <ref>link</ref>. For further in formation, please see WP:CS. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 04:58, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019

Hello JDDJS,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important.

QUALITY of REVIEWING

Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR.

Backlog

The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever.

Move to draft

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Notifying users

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Once Upon a Time in Hollywood cast

Hello. There is a talk section for cast if you wish to discuss it. Please do before deleting cast members. It was started because another editor was concerned about the dog being listed as well as actors who were only listed as generic Manson Family members. All of those folks, and dog have been removed. There is no discussion on there of removing anyone else. However, if you feel that's what should happen, please bring it up on there. The cast of this film is unique, as it is not only an ensemble one with many famous people but also because many notable real life folks are being portrayed. I believe it is important to include them. You may not. So, again I'm open to further discussion, either on here, or probably better on the talk page. Thank you. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 20:30, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019

Hello JDDJS,

Backlog

Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.

Coordinator

A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.

This month's refresher course

Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.

Deletion tags

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Paid editing

Please be sure to look for the tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. WMF policy requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.

Subject-specific notability guidelines' (SNG). Alternatives to deletion

Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves once more with notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
Blank-and-Redirect is a solution anchored in policy. Please consider this alternative before PRODing or CSD. Note however, that users will often revert or usurp redirects to re-create deleted articles. Do regularly patrol the redirects in the feed.

Not English

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Tools

Regular reviewers will appreciate the most recent enhancements to the New Pages Feed and features in the Curation tool, and there are still more to come. Due to the wealth of information now displayed by ORES, reviewers are strongly encouraged to use the system now rather than Twinkle; it will also correctly populate the logs.

Stub sorting, by SD0001: A new script is available for adding/removing stub tags. See User:SD0001/StubSorter.js, It features a simple HotCat-style dynamic search field. Many of the reviewers who are using it are finding it an improvement upon other available tools.

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New Page Review newsletter November 2019

Hello JDDJS,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon.

Getting the queue to 0

There are now 804 holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action.
Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.
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Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some really cool awards.

Coordinator

Admin Barkeep49 has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers.

This month's refresher course

Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources.

Tools

It is now possible to select new pages by date range. This was requested by reviewers who want to patrol from the middle of the list.
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List of Lab Rats characters

Amaury is right – you need to follow WP:BRD with these articles, and stop blindly reverting. In this instance, I might actually support your change, but I'm not going to do that until you start talking... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:36, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

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Why's RPM's not a drama?

Why is Power Rangers RPM not a drama? I mean they have perfect acting, and the music is like a drama tv show. Why? I know it has a lot of flashbacks and it's the darkest season, which could make a drama and they have military. Why? I'm truthful. I'm just guessing. PascalMuganyizi (talk) 15:34, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Because there are no reliable sources calling it a drama. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 16:16, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Have you read this? https://nikoscream.wordpress.com/2009/12/31/favorite-in-2009-tokusatsu-heroes/ PascalMuganyizi (talk) 00:02, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

That's a blog, not a reliable source. See WP:RS JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 01:27, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter December 2019

Reviewer of the Year

This year's Reviewer of the Year is Rosguill. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.

Special commendation again goes to Onel5969 who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to Boleyn and JTtheOG who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.

Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.

Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.

Top 10 Reviewers over the last 365 days
Rank	Username	Num reviews	Log
1	Rosguill (talk)	47,395	Patrol Page Curation
2	Onel5969 (talk)	41,883	Patrol Page Curation
3	JTtheOG (talk)	11,493	Patrol Page Curation
4	Arthistorian1977 (talk)	5,562	Patrol Page Curation
5	DannyS712 (talk)	4,866	Patrol Page Curation
6	CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk)	3,995	Patrol Page Curation
7	DragonflySixtyseven (talk)	3,812	Patrol Page Curation
8	Boleyn (talk)	3,655	Patrol Page Curation
9	Ymblanter (talk)	3,553	Patrol Page Curation
10	Cwmhiraeth (talk)	3,522	Patrol Page Curation

(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

Redirect autopatrol

A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by DannyS712 bot III.

Source Guide Discussion

Set to launch early in the new year is our first New Page Patrol Source Guide discussion. These discussions are designed to solicit input on sources in places and topic areas that might otherwise be harder for reviewers to evaluate. The hope is that this will allow us to improve the accuracy of our patrols for articles using these sources (and/or give us places to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion). Please watch the New Page Patrol talk page for more information.

This month's refresher course

While New Page Reviewers are an experienced set of editors, we all benefit from an occasional review. This month consider refreshing yourself on Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features). Also consider how we can take the time for quality in this area. For instance, sources to verify human settlements, which are presumed notable, can often be found in seconds. This lets us avoid the (ugly) 'Needs more refs' tag.

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Page moves

Hi. Please note that the category is no longer called "Best Foreign Language Film", but it was renamed to Academy Award for Best International Feature Film. There is a note in each country-specific page to this note in the lead, so these should match the main award title. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 09:13, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

I've also started this discussion too. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 09:31, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi again. I've now started this discussion. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 09:36, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the attention

...at the Umbrella Academy article. Do you do ReFill? Can you fill the three or so bare URL references therein? Thanks, cheers. 2601:246:C700:19D:50C8:642F:588A:5016 (talk) 21:36, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer newsletter February 2020

Hello JDDJS,

Source Guide Discussion

The first NPP source guide discussion is now underway. It covers a wide range of sources in Ghana with the goal of providing more guidance to reviewers about sources they might see when reviewing pages. Hopefully, new page reviewers will join others interested in reliable sources and those with expertise in these sources to make the discussion a success.

Redirects

New to NPP? Looking to try something a little different? Consider patrolling some redirects. Redirects are relatively easy to review, can be found easily through the New Pages Feed. You can find more information about how to patrol redirects at WP:RPATROL.

Discussions and Resources

There is an ongoing discussion around changing notifications for new editors who attempt to write articles.
A recent discussion of whether Michelin starred restraunts are notable was archived without closure.
A resource page with links pertinent for reviewers was created this month.
A proposal to increase the scope of G5 was withdrawn.

Refresher

Geographic regions, areas and places generally do not need general notability guideline type sourcing. When evaluating whether an article meets this notability guideline please also consider whether it might actually be a form of WP:SPAM for a development project (e.g. PR for a large luxury residential development) and not actually covered by the guideline.

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suggestion

Maybe you should get User:Beeblebrox to chime in on User: Amaury's behavior as he is the original blocking admin from 2009. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.252.193.62 (talk) 02:17, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Report against Amaury

Looks like the report got bot-archived. Unfortunate. Best we can do is keep a firm eye on him and restore the report when he acts up again. Happy editing! -- /Alex/₂₁ 23:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Definitely not the outcome I was hoping for, but like you said all we can do is restore the post if he acts up again. If he does it again, I'm pretty confident that the admins will be more willing to take action. Happy editing to you too! JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 23:25, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Arrowverse Guest cast on Batwoman

Hey JDDJS, you removed the crossover guest cast on Batwoman with an edit summary that it's per talk. But as far as I can tell, none of the active talks have reached that consensus. Am I missing something? Is there another talk besides Talk:Arrowverse/Archive 10#Guest cast for crossovers at season articles and Talk:Batwoman (TV series)#Notable guest stars? Otherwise, the edit should be reverted until there's a consensus. — Starforce¹³ 15:11, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Editing while in use

While I appreciate this edit for accuracy, why did you add it while the page had {{inuse}} on it? As you can see from the history, I was making several edits in a relatively short period so the possibility for edit conflicts was high. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:33, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Children's names

Presumption of privacy:

"The presumption in favor of privacy is strong in the case of family members of articles' subjects and other loosely involved, otherwise low-profile persons. The names of any immediate, former, or significant family members or any significant relationship of the subject of a BLP may be part of an article, if reliably sourced, subject to editorial discretion that such information is relevant to a reader's complete understanding of the subject. However, names of family members who are not also notable public figures must be removed from an article if they are not properly sourced."

...and there is much more on the page relating to the same or similar topics for people who themselves are not notable, or not public, and the requirement for reliable sourcing even then. There are many articles that have them added, and they are equally guilty of the same issue. Koncorde (talk) 18:32, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

This has been discussed before. See Talk:Brian Austin Green and Talk:Lyndsy_Fonseca. There is no policy to not include names JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 20:14, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

There are clear issues with both those RFC's, and they do not gel with either the actual policy RAW or the intent of the initial writing. I'm happy for there to be a clear RFC on the subject to establish the standpoint once and for all, with an actual outcome of revising the policies to make the intent clear. I spoke to NeilN (who is unfortunately AFK) and Drmies on this basis as they were involved in a discussion about such an RFC many moons ago that didn't go through apparently, and nobody has since revisited policy to express a requirement for clarification and make it explicitly clear. He has tagged a few named individuals who have been involved in subsequent RFC and will raise something on the WP:BLP talk page for discussion. Koncorde (talk) 22:34, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Haha, you messaged me as I messaged you! Yes, wanted to get a reply from Drmies or someone about the original RFC so that I could come back to you with something more concrete as there appears to have been a drift in perception of the policy as written (which was written intentionally vaguely for reasons I know not why, their logic seems to have been "we had best be vague, so as to avoid arguments about a policy that is more strict". Koncorde (talk) 22:37, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

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Hello JDDJS this is Sebastian Roché, under the username Avoman. I would appreciate if you stopped correcting my changes on my own page. It seems likely that i know more about my own life than you do. I am putting Scottish French because that's what i am, i have dual nationality. Let me know where we can talk directly without having this convoluted wiki dialogue thank you Sebastian Roché — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avoman (talk • contribs) 23:59, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

I have no reason to believe that you're actually Sebastian Roché and not just some random person claiming to be him. There needs to be a reliable source that he is Scottish. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 00:17, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Why was the edits I made on Heinz Doofenshmirtz reverted

I was just trying to help expand the section because it had too little information. Anilgaming2007 (talk) 22:19, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Your version has too much information. We do not need a summary of what he does in every episode. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 22:51, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Apology

Hey JDDJS, I just wanna let you know that I'm really sorry for getting frustrated against you. It's just that it's hard to accept info to be deleted from an article, I do agree and understand that a source is required for it to stay, but it's just so hard to find a reliable source for Kaitlyn Robrock. I really hope your forgive me for this, I didn't mean to cause this ruckus. 2600:1000:B05E:308A:3D1F:3759:BEC7:1449 (talk) 19:26, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 July 19#Category:Films with screenplays by David Benioff and D.B. Weiss. Actually there is a lot of TV categorized as film, if you want to help! See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Archive 29#TV articles miscategorized as films –xenotalk 15:44, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Kaitlyn Robrock as Minnie Mouse

by 24.12.189.138

The latest episode of Mickey Mouse: Mixed-Up Adventures, entitled "Holiday in Hot-Dog Hills/Happy Kitty-Helpers," credits voice actor Kaitlyn Robrock as the voice of the Disney Animated character Minnie Mouse instead of the late Russi Taylor, who passed away in July of last year from colon cancer. This is the second time in the series' run that this has happened, the first being the episode, "Mickey's Roommate/Minnie's Bow-Tel," which aired almost exactly one year to the day of Taylor's passing. Considering the fact that the episodes that aired in-between the two credited Taylor instead of Robrock despite the former's death, I thought that the episodes of the show were not being aired in the order they were originally produced and that the episodes featuring Robrock as Minnie were produced after Russi's passing. Since both of the mentioned episodes featured Robrock as Minnie, I thought there was enough evidence that her role as the character in the first episode mentioned wasn't a one-time thing and that the fact she reprised the role in the latter episode meant that she was going to be voicing Minnie for the rest of the series' run. I did not make any edits that claimed that she was gonna be playing the character going forward in all future Disney-related media and had only edited the section on Robrock's page for the show reflecting what I believed was the current situation regarding her role on it. I do not wish to start an editing war that would result in me getting banned from making any further edits on the site pending an appeal and I just would like an explanation regarding what I did wrong with my attempted edits. I'm sorry for whatever trouble or confusion I may have cause by trying to make them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.12.189.138 (talk) 14:38, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Seeking clarity re privacy of names

Hi JDDJS, you reverted my edit to Kristen Bell's page, where I had deleted her children's names per Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Privacy_of_names. You explained that "It has been agreed on many, many times that that policy does not prohibit the use of minor names when they have been publicly released by their parents." However, that's not stated on the BLP page that I just cited. I'm relatively new to editing, so can you point me to where I would find this consensus? Otherwise, the guidance I was following is from the BLP page, which states that "The presumption in favor of privacy is strong in the case of family members of articles' subjects and other loosely involved, otherwise low-profile persons. The names of any immediate, former, or significant family members or any significant relationship of the subject of a BLP may be part of an article, if reliably sourced, subject to editorial discretion that such information is relevant to a reader's complete understanding of the subject." To me, the names of Bell's (and most celebrities') children is not relevant to a reader's understanding of the subject. But, as you say, if that's not the consensus among Wikipedia editors, I'd appreciate help on where I should be looking for guidance as I edit, particularly since my interest in Wikipedia is almost exclusively on editing pages about living people. Thanks! Grn1749 (talk) 15:25, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

See Talk:Lyndsy Fonseca#Request for comment. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 16:59, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

The Disney Family Singalong

BTW, no worries about you reverting the The Disney Family Singalong merge templates. I thought no support votes for 6 months + addition of holiday version made the merge a bit moot, but no prob if you'd like to see more editor discussion. Happy editing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:18, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for being understanding. I'm probably going to post on WP:TV about it, so more editors contribute to the discussion and we can get a clear consensus one way or the other. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 19:29, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

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Hello JDDJS, you recently reverted an edit I made on the Diana Lee Inosanto page, with the explanation that we only list occupations the person is notable for. I don't see this written anywhere in the infobox parameters, could you point me to where it is stated? Thanks. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 05:30, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

The parameter says "Occupation(s) as given in the lead", MOS:OPENPARABIO says :The noteworthy position(s) the person held, activities they took part in, or roles they played" go in the lead. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 06:00, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

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You know this naming is contentious due to the RFC you raised at Amanda Kloots over the same information. WP:STATUSQUO is not reason to override WP:ONUS and that RFC is determining that consensus. If and when that consensus is reached, then it can be included. Morbidthoughts (talk) 22:31, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

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You absolutely should not have done that. If you want to nominate it for deletion, go ahead, but you should have not unilaterally decided to move it out the mainspace with no consensus. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 17:28, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

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Blankman

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While I appreciate your edits to the List of cross-dressing characters in animated series page... you aren't right about some things

Tuxs are generally recognized as menswear, and Perry the Platypus and Heinz clearly wear dresses, and I'm not talking about the ball gown dress, although its worth mentioning I suppose. I wouldn't be opposed to removing that part about the ball gown dresses, but I think it is pretty documented that Heinz and Perry have worn dresses in respective episodes, Perry as a disguise, and Heinz because he was forced to by his parents. --Historyday01 (talk) 01:47, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

What If...?

Yes, you should stop reverting unless you have an unbiased explanation for what "ready" is otherwise, it just seems like you are disregarding and crapping on there people's work. -Sphynxdragon (talk)

For one thing, it needs references. I am not the only one who has told you to stop. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 20:18, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Then add some references. Constantly reverting it to an anchor in the main "What If...?" article is useless and juvenile. Also, the cast list is referenced by the external IMDB link I provided.

-Sphynxdragon (talk)

IMDB is not reliable. Articles should be in draft space until they are ready. What is juvenile here is your refusal to listen to the multiple editors who told you to stop. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 20:26, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

IMDB Simply confirms the credits at the end of the episode. Also, your point holds little water given that I don't see you removing the external IMDB links from all the other "What If...?" articles if it's so unreliable. Finally, multiple people can be wrong at the same time. The fact that you are doing a thing that two other people have done doesn't make it wise.

-Sphynxdragon (talk)

IMDB is fine as an external link but not a reference. We use consensus here, so actually, it does matter that people agreed to revert it. And you also repeatedly violated WP:3RR. You seem to have little to no understanding of policies here. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 20:38, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Just stop. You are new here, have very little knowledge of policies, guidelines, and common practices in general, and are acting very disruptively. You've been warned two times now against edit warring and you've been reported to WP:ANEW now. IMDb is an unreliable source for references (See WP:RS/IMDb and WP:CITINGIMDB), external links aren't necessarily reliable sources. You've been reverted because the article is already being developed at Draft:What If... Killmonger Rescued Tony Stark?, where it's much more advanced than what you're currently doing. —El Millo (talk) 20:39, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Listen you condescending twit I'm about done with your insults. I'm not "new here", my first contribution was 15 years ago in 2006. Yours was was only 8 years ago in 2013. JDDJS first contribution was 11 years ago in 2010. If you would stop being arrogant children it would be nice. -Sphynxdragon (talk)

You have a total of 70 edits. Out of those, 13 were in 2006, seven were in 2007, one was in 2010, and 54 were this year. You seem not to know about or understand the existence of drafts, you seem not to know about WP:BRD or WP:STATUSQUO. You don't know that IMDb isn't a reliable source and that external links and references aren't the same. You don't know you're supposed to read and leave edit summaries. You edit war as if you didn't know what edit warring was. You are combative in your responses and now you use insults. You do not edit consistently and you seem not to know much about policies and guidelines. You may not be "new" technically speaking, but you're certainly not experienced here. If you are being reverted by multiple experienced users, you should stop, and take a few minutes to see that they may actually have a reason for it, instead of constantly reverting.—El Millo (talk) 22:47, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

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@Elmidae I don't know why I got this message. The only edit I made to it was nominate it for deletion when it was a redirect. User:Hunter Kahn is the creator. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 20:07, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

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