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This Month in Education: July 2021

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Volume 10 • Issue 7 • July 2021

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Re: August 2021

Thank you. I've tried to now. Regards!--2800:A4:1336:7300:56B:E368:88CC:CEA (talk) 18:55, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for improving the article. Very much appreciated! Isabelle 🔔 18:57, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Untitled section

Please dont ruin work as you did with Billie jean.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Yeshshhshs (talk • contribs)

@Yeshshhshs: Please stop vandalizing the page. You've been warned several times now. Isabelle 🔔 22:36, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Bernette Ford

On 10 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bernette Ford, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Bernette Ford was one of the first members of the Black Creators for Children, an organization that helped promote black authors and increase diversity in children's books? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bernette Ford. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Bernette Ford), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Hey-hey - it all came good! Nice work Isabelle! Girth Summit (blether) 00:06, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
That's awesome! Thanks for the help Girth Summit and Barkeep49! Isabelle 🔔 01:29, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

New Wikipedia Library collections and design update (August 2021)

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We are also excited to announce that the first version of a new design for My Library was deployed this week. We will be iterating on this design with more features over the coming weeks. Read more on the project page on Meta.

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Reverting vandals

08:07, 11 August 2021‎ Isabelle Belato talk contribs‎ m 397 bytes −7‎ Reverted edits by 2A02:8440:3140:F326:A5D2:2886:A9A2:28ED (talk) (HG) (3.4.10) rollback: 1 editundothank Tag: Rollback

Hi. After reverting a vandal, please always check their contributions. Quite often they frolick on several pages; some of them are with few watchers and may remain damaged for a long time. Lembit Staan (talk) 16:18, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi Lembit Staan. My apologies if I didn't do that. I usually go through their previous edits to check for a pattern, and revert when necessary, but I might've forgotten to that this time. Thanks for the heads up. Isabelle 🔔 19:50, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Folk Music and Venues in Maine

Isabelle, How exactly are the links I added not pertinent to the topic of music in Maine? Because they are underground musicians or nonprofit venues that support underground artists? Is the page only for commercially successful acts? If so, there are several artists already listed that are more obscure than those I posted.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.61.120.205 (talk • contribs) 15:36, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi there! I've reverted your edit on Music of Maine due to your addition of external links in the body of the article to a variety of corporations and organizations. Not only can this be seem as spam, but it's also not recommended according to our manual of style. If you want to increase awareness of those corporations here, you are welcome to create an article about them. If you have any more questions, feel free to notify me on your talk page. Isabelle 🔔 15:41, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Re: linking in MIT Mystery Hunt

Hi, I noticed that my edit to MIT Mystery Hunt was reverted. The website to the MIT Mystery Hunt typically gets archived to web.mit.edu/puzzle/www/<year> (which perhaps pass the Huggle filter), although this has not happened yet for 2021. So the link that I provided led to the hunt running website which equivalently serves as the puzzle repository. We aren't planning on de-hosting the site until at least all of the content is migrated to the above link, which is when the link can be changed to point to the MIT website. --99.72.225.123 (talk) 00:52, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi, it appears that people decided it's alright to add external links in the body on that article. I hadn't noticed that before reverting you, so I apologize. It might be worth writing in the edit summary that follows the pattern in the page (of links to hunts being present) to avoid future reverts, although it would be better if they were added as references, instead, so it follows the manual of style. Isabelle 🔔 00:57, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Scary Stories for Young Foxes

The article Scary Stories for Young Foxes you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Scary Stories for Young Foxes for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Barkeep49 -- Barkeep49 (talk) 15:41, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Question from Harmonie kay (13:04, 16 August 2021)

Hello. I would love to be guided on how I can upload my work biography on Wikipedia? --Harmonie kay (talk) 13:04, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi and welcome to Wikipedia, Harmonie kay. Could you be a bit more specific so I can better answer your question? If you want to use works you've written as sources to a specific subject, I'd recommend you read this guide on how to cite sources. If your question is about writing an article about yourself, I'd recommend you read our guideline on autobiographies, which states: Avoid writing or editing an article about yourself [...] other than to correct unambiguous errors of fact. If this doesn't answer your question, or if you have any other doubts, feel free to leave me another message. Best regards, Isabelle 🔔 13:47, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

sources

allready mentioned in List of nicknames used for Narendra Modi.122.167.34.98 (talk) 14:53, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

still here restore to continue122.167.34.98 (talk) 14:57, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
Those sources are not good enough for the whole list, which, in my point of view, go against our WP:BLP policies. You are welcome to start a discussion on the talk page of List of nicknames of the prime ministers of India. Isabelle 🔔 14:59, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Scary Stories for Young Foxes

Hello! Your submission of Scary Stories for Young Foxes at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BuySomeApples (talk) 05:19, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Question from Socratesart (01:08, 20 August 2021)

how do you add citations that are reused but with different page numbers. Example for footnote form: "Williams, pp. 245-248." --Socratesart:talk 01:08, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi and thanks for reaching out, Socratesart! The preferred way to do that is by using the template {{Sfn}}, which stands for shortened footnote. You can see it being used in articles such as Ayn Rand and Animal Farm. The template's documentation has more information on how to use it, and I've also added an example on my sandbox for you to check it. As an example, if you wanted to cite a book by Williams, you'd add their book at the bottom of the page ({{cite book |last=Williams |first=John |year=1987 |title=Williams' book}}) and then add the reference in the text, like this: {{sfn|Williams|1987|p=245-248}}. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask. Isabelle 🔔 01:21, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
Thank you so much. I think you've answered all my questions. I see these articles's citations are organized differently with a "Source" section and a "Notes" section. I now see that my question was more how to add a "loc cit" citation to an article that only has a citation or notes section, where you have a full source citation and you want to add another from same source but only use the different page number, such as "loc. cit. Williams pp. 33-35" etc., Socratesart:talk 07:27, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Burqa Band

 Courtesy link: Burka Band

Hello Isabelle, Thank you for your feedback. The text I edited on the Burqa Band was actually less than neutral, containing inaccurate information. I followed the "appearance" of this "band" throughout, having lived in Afghanistan, and crosschecked all info. There is no evidence this ever existed as a band, apart from a couple of videos. Form "interviews" it appeared clear the "band" was formed with the impulse of a German music teacher in Kabul, who took the hcance to create world hype based on the novelty of the idea. They "had" only a couple of songs, some were "remixed" in Germany, and the "album" is only a rehash of these couple of songs. They never played live in Afghanistan, and the "German gig" was likely played by Germans wearing burqas. A funny novelty, but in the end, nothing like a "real band". The official source of the German label that released the songs in Germany, of course can not be taken seriuosly as it was in their interest to hype the novelty to increase sales. Thanks a lot. Best regards Luk Haas

Hi Luk Haas. If you believe the sources used in the article are not reliable, please explain why in your edit summary or in the article's talk page and remove them. If you have reliable sources that confirm this band is a hoax, but still notable enough to have an article, then add those sources to the article. You can also propose the article's deletion, if you believe it is not notable enough to have an article. Adding unsourced information, or scare quotes to words is not the appropriate path. Isabelle 🔔 15:14, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

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Why was my edit removed?

Hey my name is Romero Williams part of a team named Rebooted Studios i wanted to put our rom hack in the List of unofficial Sonic media and it got changed by you can to tell me what was the reason and what to do to add the edit back? thanks! SEGAJR (talk) 23:34, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Romero Williams, and welcome to Wikipedia. I removed the information you added because it lacked an inline citation. When adding a new item to a list (or any new information, really), we need editors to also add a citation from a reliable source for two main reasons: first, so we can verify that the information is correct; the second is so that we can tell if that information is notable and its addition is due. Since Wikipedia is not a directory, we usually try to add only information that is reliable and notable. I hope that answered your question. Isabelle 🔔 23:40, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks i will make sure add a inline citation. Thanks for telling me! SEGAJR (talk) 23:47, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Olga Skabeyeva

Hi Isabelle! This is regarding Olga Skabeyeva, the Russian television host. The reason why I think there should be a mention that she is a propagandist, is because she in fact is. She works for All-Russia State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company, which is state-owned by the Russian government. Her only source of income is directly from the All-Russia State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company. She pushes a pro-government, in other words pro-Putin, agenda and goes after those who disagree with the government. It is a fact that Russia was supporting Donald Trump in the 2016 and 2020 presidential elections, and Olga Skabeyeva was doing everything in her power to smear his opponent, Joe Biden. Even now, Olga Skabeyeva smears only one American political party, the Democratic Party, as this is directly the views of the Russian government. Any state employed political talk show host, should be considered a propagandist because they are employed for one reason only, to spew the propaganda that the Russian dictatorship wants to sell to the Russian public. Thank you! And I hope you reconsider! 71.93.186.39 (talk) 23:22, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi anonymous user. I reverted your edits because calling someone a propagandist carries a negative tone, which we have to take seriously when dealing with biographies of living people. I had a quick look on other members of the Category:Russian propagandists and all of the biographies I checked had several reliable sources to backup that affirmation. I'd recommend adding inline citations that show that person being called a propagandist by reliable sources. Isabelle 🔔 23:28, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi Isabelle! I would be happy to provide some sources. [1]. Another example of Olga Skabeeva being a propagandist is present in this article [2]. As we see in that article, the Russian government has many anti gay propaganda laws and Olga Skabeyeva spews homophobic slurs as a result of that. Also, in Olga Skabeyeva's wikipedia page article, it says she is a propagandist in her occupation. Also, it says in the second sentence that her nickname is "iron doll of Putin TV." Being the iron doll of a dictators TV makes you a propagandist. Thank you! 71.93.186.39 (talk) 23:50, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Personally, I don't think those are good enough. The first one appears to be user generated content (although it contains several links to better sources in the page, which you might want to use), and the second one doesn't directly connect the word to the person (but could be used alongside other, stronger sources). Isabelle 🔔 23:58, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Skabeeva Olga". Putin's List.
  2. ^ Shevchenko, Vitaly. "Tokyo Olympics sparks anti-LGBT slurs on Russian TV". BBC.

DYK for Scary Stories for Young Foxes

On 28 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Scary Stories for Young Foxes, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that while writing Scary Stories for Young Foxes, Christian McKay Heidicker, under his agent's advice, "added a snuggle for every snarl"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Scary Stories for Young Foxes. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Scary Stories for Young Foxes), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

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Profile.

Hey Isabelle. I noticed you had a speedy deletion on my profile. What are we allowed and not allowed to put on our profile?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Multiyapples On YouTube (talk • contribs) 02:17, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi and welcome to Wikipedia, Multiyapples On YouTube. When marking your userpage for deletion, I left a message on your talk page explaining the reason. Essentially, we should use our userpages to add information related to our contributions to the project, and avoid adding unrelated content. Due to your username and your userpage containing nothing more than a link to your YouTube profile, it seemed like advertisement, which is frowned upon. Isabelle 🔔 02:56, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Multiyapples On YouTube (talk • contribs) 03:02, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

@Multiyapples On YouTube: No problem. If you have any other questions about best practices about editing on Wikipedia, feel free to ask here or at the tea house. Also, don't forget to sign your messages with four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your message. Isabelle 🔔 17:39, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Andrew Robertson

Hi, i was wondering why my edit about Andrew Robertson Andrew Robertson was removed as this was from a neutral point of view and it is a widely supported opinion across the footballing community that Robertson is one of the finest left-backs in the world, with him being the only left-back in the Premier League and recent history to register double-digits for assists in consecutive domestic league seasons. Cheers, rextyy Rextyy (talk) 23:41, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Rextyy. I just checked the article in question and the player is indeed considered by some as "the best" player in his field. Due to the high level of NPOV edits that appear in articles related to sportspeople, I might have been too quick on the revert button here. I apologize and I've self-reverted so that your addition show up in the lede (though be aware that it still might be challenged by other editors who are more aware about what is due to appear in the lede for a football player). Thanks for reaching out. Isabelle 🔔 22:50, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Users engaging in disruptive/unbecoming behavior in Talk:Trypophobia discussion

Hello. I'd like to ask you to take a look at users on the page Talk: Trypophobia.

Backstory: There's several problems going on with the page discussion, even before I got there, such an admin users musing on self-experiments they were doing and telling others not to discuss a topic which was subject to controversy (mainly concerning whether to keep the lead image there). I made a reply that I thought there was systematic bias in editor's decisions to keep the lead image where it was. Users were somewhat offended that I'd make references to implicit bias and connections I made about their page activity; some of that offense may have been justified. In any case, I was directed to open a dispute resolution to reopen an RfC from 2018, and after spending a while reading rules about discussion, I opened an ANI because I didn't think my request for a review of implicit bias would fit under any other dispute resolution action. I contacted the single person who went against the RfC consensus, Pengo and asked them for their feeling on what happened in that RfC and relayed my takeaway from that discussion to the other discussions. During the ANI, I was addressed by several non-admin users who did not identify that they weren't admins, mostly responding in a negative way, some of whom had previously participated in the Talk:Trypophobia discussion. They convinced me to close the ANI, and I started preparing to open a new RfC. One of my actions, in response to a recommendation in the ANI, was to open a request for review on WT:Med. Another user joined on to the discussion who had previously participated in Talk Trypophobia. While several people have replied in support of my position on other pages, none have been willing to visit the page and work on dispute resolution, so that my responding to 3-5, in my opinion, highly negative users has compounded my frustration with further issues.

Current problems: A user who was previously uninvolved made a post on Pengo's page asking us why we saw bias in the original RfC and replied with indignance several times. Now that user is accusing me of misinterpreting Pengo's position on the other talk pages, breaking a quote I made there in a way that I think was intended to create contention. The same user from pengo's page, Acidsetback, and another who came from the ANI, ScottishFinnishRadish, began, in my opinion, mocking me for suggesting that we ask a researcher for a picture which is less likely to cause a reaction in people with trypophobia. The latter user posted a picture of a wolf to mock my idea, saying that the wolf probably wouldn't cause a trypophobia reaction. Lastly, the user who responded when I asked for help on WP:Med, WhatamIdoing, I believe is now working against me, arguing against my points, creating research time for me, and repeatedly implying that my pursuit of the issue is a waste of time. I think this is a problem in that I asked for help on WP:Med pursuing the issue I was concerned with. If a user on that page believed my concerns were unfounded, they should have told me there rather than join in on the page to actively work against my line of inquiry.

Any comments you could provide or if you could look in to these issue would be helpful. I don't know. I don't believe these users are willing to work together, and have pre-determined that their thoughts on the subject are correct. I'm, to the best of my ability, done working on that page for now because of the resistance from these users. Thank you. --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 12:33, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I thought you were an admin because you closed an ANI. --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 14:01, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
@IronMaidenRocks: I read in passing that ANI as it was going on, but it was a bit too heavy on background context for me. Although I am sympathetic to your point of view, and would be for having a new MOS guideline on -phobia related articles where it concerns the lede image, I also agree with the ANI closing, that this is a content dispute. I see the discussion is progressing, so you could possibly open an RfC soon to see if consensus has changed.
Just as an aside, anyone can participate in a thread that is started on ANI, as it's usually a community process to decide what should be done with regards to another user. Although only administrators can apply blocks, anyone can speak their mind. Also, closures can be done by non-administrators in non-controversial cases, and where no admin action is required. See WP:NAC. Isabelle 🔔 22:23, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the comment. I think I'll do some work on finding new evidence before I try to start an RfC, but so far users aren't too keen on my idea of finding a new lead image. I'm not even sure why, really. Otherwise, at this rate, I don't think there are enough users on Wikipedia who would have some sympathy with the issue, not because of obvious and strict violations of Wikipedia policy but because the site is both internally and externally notorious for its limited diversity. That, in turn, can inform attitudes on rare conditions. Users there consider even the possibility that they could be subject to systematic bias to be offensive and seem to be unable to distinguish systematic bias discussion from accusations of personal bias. It's frustrating to deal with, but then I'm probably not the best person to try and soothe them given that I'm prone to writing in a cold and calculating, yet sometimes overly emotional tone. --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 23:06, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Flamer (novel)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Flamer (novel) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 11:42, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Flamer (novel)

The article Flamer (novel) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Flamer (novel) for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 18:21, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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For your lightning fast anti-vandalism work Krillzyx (talk) 22:54, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
Thank you, Krillzyx! That's very much appreciated. Isabelle 🔔 23:17, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Shadows of the Damned

Here is the manga I put in the new Legacy section for the game Shadows of the Damned. The basic premise is the same as the game originally had. https://myanimelist.net/manga/92332/Kurayami_Dance Proof that the Shadows of the Damned sequel level in Travis Strikes Again: No More Heroes exists. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAXIiEcrpdA I made an error in my edit. The level is called "Damned: Dark Knight". The fictitious sequel is called "Serious Moonlight". Please restore my change so that I can finish my edits.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.64.147.130 (talk) 16:16, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi IP editor, and welcome to Wikipedia. When adding new information to an article, it's required you supply a citation by a reliable source than backs up what is written, so other users and readers can verify that information. I highly recommend you take a look at Help:Referencing for beginners. Thanks for wanting to improve the project. Isabelle 🔔 16:21, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

I am done editing the article. The game´s messy development left a big impact that its creator and studio. Both are still grappling with it today. I can hunt down further sources for my edits so ask and I will provide them.

Your GA nomination of Flamer (novel)

The article Flamer (novel) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Flamer (novel) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 07:02, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK Nomination for "Pisanhari Ki Marhia"

  • @Isabelle: As directed a source has been added for "the woman who does milling of flour is called Pisanhari", though i apologize that this is also in Hindi. i have no intention to push the nomination for an undeserving article, so may i request you to trust the Hindi citations. The sentence has been rephrased and broken references removed. Pl reconsider and let me know if anything else is required to be done.LoveAll (talk). 11:49, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
    • @Isabelle: i have copy edited the History section to some extent. Hope it is acceptable now. The redirect from "Pisanhari ki Madiya" already exists. i propose the following hook: "............that a poor old lady called "Pisanhari" built a temple with her own savings in 1442 CE". Please guide further. LoveAll (talk). 11:34, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

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Question from Dinu1133 on Isaac Newton (17:14, 9 September 2021)

Hello there! I'm Dinu1133, so I am a guy looking for edit an section in the semi-protected page "Isaac Newton" , so I was thinking about editing a few sections and some sources and contribute to Wikipedia ! --Dinu1133 (talk) 17:14, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Dinu1133, and welcome to Wikipedia! As you mentioned yourself, the article in question is protected, meaning you won't be able to edit it directly until your account becomes autoconfirmed (meaning it must be at least 4 days old and have made 10 edits). For now, if you want to help improve Isaac Newton, you will need to suggest edits on the talk page. You can also help improve articles related to the subject that are not protected, such as Early life of Isaac Newton and Later life of Isaac Newton (both have standing issues that could use fixing), until you become autoconfirmed. I hope this helped you! I've also left a welcome message on your talk page, with some more links to important policies and guidelines. Happy editing. Isabelle 🔔 17:23, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Change to "norton antivirus page reverted because of no citation, but no citation needed

I pointed out on the Norton page that since the FBI has a backdoor in Norton Antivirus (already cited) but the product is sold outside of the US (already cited) this represents the risk of a cyber-terrorism attack from the US. You removed it asking for a citation, but no citation is needed because it's a natural conclusion. All the citable facts were already included in previous sentences that were already there, I just pointed out what they naturally added up to. If the FBI (a foreign government agency from the point of view of every country that isn't the USA) has a backdoor in Norton, and Norton is sold outside the USA, then it's a massive security hole that the USA could use to attack other nations. I didn't say anything about the likelihood of it happening though (which would need citation).

That could be qualified as WP:SYNTH. But, if you think that's an obvious conclusion that doesn't need a citation from a reliable source reaching that same conclusion (which should be easy to find, since it's an obvious conclusion), then feel free to revert my revert and add the information again. I'll let people who are more knowledgable about the subject to decide whether that's a fair addition or not. Thanks for readching out. Isabelle 🔔 03:50, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Question From Bhuggins2- Removing Material

Hi Isabelle,

My name is Billy Huggins User:Bhuggins2. I am the one who originally wrote the Evolution of the vitamin D receptor article as apart of a wikipedia education class assignment. I am wanting to delete this article from Wikipedia. Am I not allowed to delete my own contributions? Thanks for the help! Bhuggins2 (talk) 00:06, 21 September 2021 (UTC)Billy

Hi Bhuggins2. If you wish to delete the article, as the author you can request a speedy deletion under criteria G7, meaning you are responsible for the majority of its content. To do so, simply add {{Db-g7}} to the top of the page. Isabelle 🔔 00:15, 21 September 2021 (UTC)


Thank you for your help! Bhuggins2 (talk) 11:28, 21 September 2021 (UTC)Billy

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Wow, just as I'm about to revert some vandalism you've already done it, fast work. Thanks for your help :-) StarryNightSky11 ☎ 12:38, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Haha, thanks for the barnstar. Huggle is quite the handy tool for quick revertion. Thanks for your work patroling recent changes, as well! Isabelle 🔔 13:23, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Question from SexyTrishaTS on User talk:SexyTrishaTS (18:19, 26 September 2021)

how i can delete my page i dint now what i do please help me --SexyTrishaTS (talk) 18:19, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

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Question from Slater Investments Ltd (14:32, 27 September 2021)

We are looking to build a wikipedia page for our company, Slater Investments. How do we do this? As a slight introduction we're a fund manager who handles £2 billion+ in AUM through 3 of ours funds. --Slater Investments Ltd (talk) 14:32, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

@Slater Investments Ltd: Hi and welcome to Wikipedia! Although I appreciate your enthusiasm, I must tell you about a few of the policies of the project, more specifically a policy on corporation names, in that they "are not permitted because they are considered promotional" and "[a] user who both adopts a promotional username and also engages in inappropriately promotional behaviors in articles about the company, group, or product, can be blocked." So, my first suggestion is to request a username change to one that identifies you as a single editor. My second suggestion is that you read our policy on editing under a conflict of interest, which states that "you are strongly discouraged from editing affected articles directly".
I know this all sounds like a lot, but these are important policies in place to maintain the reliability of the project and trust of readers and editors in the information we present here. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask them to me here, at your talk page, or at the teahouse, where other users will be able to help you. Isabelle 🔔 14:44, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Question from Slater Investments Ltd (14:55, 27 September 2021)

Hi - Just seen your message. Thank you for the response. Struggling to understand the issue when the likes of Goldman Sachs have pages describing their business yet for us it is an issue? --Slater Investments Ltd (talk) 14:55, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

@Slater Investments Ltd: Hi again. I do recommend you read our policy on conflict on interest, which explains the project's views on editing about your own company or the company you work for. Isabelle 🔔 15:09, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

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New message from Narutolovehinata5

 You are invited to join the discussion at Template:Did you know nominations/Pisanhari Ki Marhia. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:37, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder Narutolovehinata5 as I had forgotten about that nomination. I'll take a look to see if the article has now been improved enough to satisfy DYK requirements. Isabelle 🔔 14:18, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Question- Removing Material

Hi Isabelle,

I keep getting a message that you are reverting my edit to the Mises Institute page. The information I am entering is accurate. Why is it being reverted?

Thank you, 2601:80:C103:ADF0:2D82:3A04:8872:D8A (talk) 00:49, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Please read our policy on neutral point of view when editing an article. Isabelle 🔔 00:51, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

It is neutral and factual to label the SPLC as a left wing organization. 2601:80:C103:ADF0:2D82:3A04:8872:D8A (talk) 00:59, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

And why did you write far left and extreme left? Isabelle 🔔 16:56, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
How dare you beat me to reverting vandalism! [Humor] Thanks for helping out in fighting the vandals, even though you always beat me to it. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:18, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the star, Blaze! These signs of appreciation are always welcome. Thank you for assisting in patrolling the recent changes, as well for helping out new users at the Teahouse, where I oftentimes see replies by you. Keep up the great work. Isabelle 🔔 19:36, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
No problem! Whenever I get beat to undoing vandalism it's almost always you who beats me. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:38, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
Using the Huggle hotkeys for the more obvious vandalism makes for some quite quick reversions, haha. Isabelle 🔔 19:49, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
It sure does. I don't have the correct perms to be able to use HUggle quite yet and while I probably could get them, I'm currently undergoing some training with a user at WP:CVUA and I think it would be a good idea that I complete that first before I request rollback perms. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:58, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Question from MKHendry on Wikipedia:User pages (19:29, 30 September 2021)

Good evening from Great Britain I am trying to set up a subpage from my user page. I thought I had done it OK as described in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_pages#User_pages_and_user_space I put a sentence of text on an apparent subpage but I can't find any link to it from my User page. That is to say that when I click on Special:Prefixindex/User:MKHendry no subpage shows in the drop-down and when I choose another page and click on Show, it flickers slightly then nothing happens --MKHendry (talk) 19:29, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi and welcome to Wikipedia, MKHendry! I've just checked your prefix index and it appears that you did everything correctly, but you typed in the wrong username ("MK Hendry", instead of "MKHendry"). If you change the link to your username, it will show your two current subpages: User:MKHendry/sandbox and User:MKHendry/subpage. I recommend you add those pages to your watchlist if you haven't already, so it will be even easier to access them. Thanks for helping improve the project. If you have any other question, feel free to ask me here or at your own talkpage. Isabelle 🔔 19:44, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
Although even adding them to your watchlist won't prevent you from losing them. Putting a link to them on your userpage might be better. I have a subpage that I have on my watchlist that I lost because I hadn't edited it in a while. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 20:00, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Question from Smartybrawn on User:Smartybrawn/sandbox (02:29, 1 October 2021)

G --Smartybrawn (talk) 02:29, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi and welcome to Wikipedia, Smartybrawn! I see you are already testing you edits in your sandbox. That's great! If you have any questions about editing articles, feel free to ask me here or at your talk page. Isabelle 🔔 02:47, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Question from Florence Angle (14:01, 4 October 2021)

hi Isabelle Belato its honour for me to join Wikipedia the World Largest biographic website so here my purpose to learn more from Wikipedia and earn through Wikipedia so you must help in learning and earning thanks --Florence Angle (talk) 14:01, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia, Florence Angle! I've left some cookies in your talk page, alongside with some very useful links to learn how to help improve the project! Feel free to leave any questions you might have here, on your own talk page, or on the teahouse, where other experienced contributors will also be able to help. Happy editing! Isabelle 🔔 14:42, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Question from Slater Investments Ltd (16:06, 6 October 2021)

Hi Isabelle - Should I build a page for our company but it is not promoting any of our products and simply factual would this be an issue. We did this for our fund manager, Mark Slater, who now has a page and there was no issue with this. --Slater Investments Ltd (talk) 16:06, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

@Slater Investments Ltd: I believe I've already made you aware of all the policies and guidelines that are related to your editing. Although you are, of course, allowed to create and edit pages about your company (under a different name, as your current username goes against our name policy, which is why I recommend changing your username or abandoning this account) you are strongly encouraged not to do so. Concerning the article on Mark Slater (courtesy link: Mark Slater (fund manager)), I'll note that all the additions by what I assume was an employee of your company had to be deleted due to copyright issues and it took recreation by another user and a lot of cleaning to get to an acceptable level. Isabelle 🔔 16:53, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Jessica Urlichs

A tag has been placed on Jessica Urlichs requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from the article namespace to a different namespace except the Category, Template, Wikipedia, Help, or Portal namespaces.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Stefan2 (talk) 17:48, 26 September 2021 (UTC)


Hi Isabel, thanks for the message. I have updated a few items for this article and put the “draft article” in the top and clicked save. I couldn’t find out to now have this reviewed. Also yes I am related to the person in this article and fully disclose this and have been writing it without bias and using true articles, links and profiles to show this. What else would you suggest to add more credible sources? Many thanks Drew :)

Also, whats this new information about speedy deletion? I have been trying to get in contact with you and had to add help to the page and now I see someone has deleted the page. Any help would be appreciated. As it seems I cannot contest this now and wasn't contacted about this prior? Many thanks Drew — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrewUrlichs (talk • contribs) 22:09, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

@DrewUrlichs: If you want to submit your draft for review by the community, press the blue "Submit" button that appears at the top of Draft:Jessica Urlichs. Isabelle 🔔 22:42, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Isabel, I will look at this. I also had a question above in regards to your other message earlier about suggestions on the credible sources issue you pointed out? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrewUrlichs (talk • contribs) 03:09, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

RfA 2021 review update

Thanks so much for participating in Phase 1 of the RfA 2021 review. 8 out of the 21 issues discussed were found to have consensus. Thanks to our closers of Phase 1, Primefac and Wugapodes.

The following had consensus support of participating editors:

  1. Corrosive RfA atmosphere
    The atmosphere at RfA is deeply unpleasant. This makes it so fewer candidates wish to run and also means that some members of our community don't comment/vote.
  2. Level of scrutiny
    Many editors believe it would be unpleasant to have so much attention focused on them. This includes being indirectly a part of watchlists and editors going through your edit history with the chance that some event, possibly a relatively trivial event, becomes the focus of editor discussion for up to a week.
  3. Standards needed to pass keep rising
    It used to be far easier to pass RfA however the standards necessary to pass have continued to rise such that only "perfect" candidates will pass now.
  4. Too few candidates
    There are too few candidates. This not only limits the number of new admin we get but also makes it harder to identify other RfA issues because we have such a small sample size.
  5. "No need for the tools" is a poor reason as we can find work for new admins

The following issues had a rough consensus of support from editors:

  1. Lifetime tenure (high stakes atmosphere)
    Because RfA carries with it lifetime tenure, granting any given editor sysop feels incredibly important. This creates a risk adverse and high stakes atmosphere.
  2. Admin permissions and unbundling
    There is a large gap between the permissions an editor can obtain and the admin toolset. This brings increased scrutiny for RFA candidates, as editors evaluate their feasibility in lots of areas.
  3. RfA should not be the only road to adminship
    Right now, RfA is the only way we can get new admins, but it doesn't have to be.

Please consider joining the brainstorming which will last for the next 1-2 weeks. This will be followed by Phase 2, a 30 day discussion to consider solutions to the problems identified in Phase 1.

There are 2 future mailings planned. One when Phase 2 opens and one with the results of Phase 2. To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here.

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