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DYK hook reviews

I'm back after having limited time within the past week, and there are a few reviews that I was hoping you could take a look at.

• Template:Did you know nominations/Barbeque Nation has its most recent hook proposed by me, so I'm out of the running. There were some issues about the article and its hooks seeming promotional in nature. I think the latest is okay, but it needs an independent eye.
• Template:Did you know nominations/Capture of Mazatlán – can you please take a look at this one? Either I'm missing something, or there's an aggregation of information going into the hook that isn't directly supported by any of the sources, but I think both Laura and I have done as much as we can. I'm sorry I didn't notice the reply sooner; I was away with limited access to the internet over the past week.
• Template:Did you know nominations/Domaine Ponsot – second opinion requested here.

Many thanks! —BlueMoonset (talk) 05:17, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

• Looking. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:20, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. Sorry the first one you took didn't go as planned; I've done my bit to address Laura's concerns. Here's another one I just discovered has gone unaddressed in over a week; the original reviewer seems to have gone missing:

• Template:Did you know nominations/Ole Hannibal Sommerfelt, Ole Hannibal Sommerfelt BlueMoonset (talk) 06:36, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Redirects decision

Hi!
I did not like your decision of redirecting many Indian songs on AfDs. I have started a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film/Indian_cinema_task_force#Redirected and you are needed to join. I am using "needed" and not "welcome" because we would not like to see people interfere in the decisions taken after say 20 days or so. (Speaking from experience. Admins and Americans and Europeans mostly mind special decisions taken for Indian projects.) §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 07:48, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

• I've replied there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:04, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

And btw, "Americans and Europeans mostly mind special decisions taken for Indian projects." makes very little sense in this situation as I'm neither, and it's uncited to a discussion / place which conclusively indicates this. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:15, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

MetricStream Page

Hi, May i know the reason why this page is deleted even after adding the reference points in this section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.251.15.178 (talk) 10:33, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

• The consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MetricStream was clear. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:48, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

This looks like another post being used to promote MetricStream: Gunjan Sinha 2607:F128:40:700:216:E6FF:FE60:47C7 (talk) 16:02, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Also, here is another article in this sector that may not meet notability requirements: Active Risk — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:F128:40:700:216:E6FF:FE60:47C7 (talk) 16:22, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Alang-Alang (TV series)

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the co-nom

It's live now. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:29, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

• Like — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:32, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Copyright violation on Luzhanqi

Hi Crisco. I hope that my answer here has allayed your concerns about this page, but if you'd like me to clarify further, do let me know. You're also more than welcome to run checks on any of my other created articles. Cheers, Yunshui 雲‍水 08:55, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

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DYK

I wouldn't normally solicit a DYK review, but in this case it is a time sensitive issue. I expanded Dan Oates x10 and nominated it for DYK here. I worry that it will get lost in the large number of Olympic DYK's. There also needs to be some time to discuss the hook. On another note, the hook should probably be placed in a queue that is on the main page when America is awake since it is most relevant there. NY 12:00 is best; is there a way to ensure this? Ryan Vesey Review me! 13:01, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

• I'll take a peek. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:29, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Thanks for that, I've replied. Do you have a hook preference? I'm almost keen on Alt 3, but don't have a huge preference. I just knew there were a million ways I could write the hook. Ryan Vesey Review me! 14:21, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
    • Actually, I'm not too keen on it, I wan't people to realize we are featuring the person, not the event. Ryan Vesey Review me! 14:21, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
      • With the image they will probably understand that. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:27, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Java Pacific Film

Re:[1]--you'll have to delete the article then... Drmies (talk) 16:34, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

• LOLz. Well, in that case Wikilinks are fine. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:50, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

FA interview with Casliber

Hey, Cas has agreed to the interview and I've made a page for us to draw up questions here. I'll think up a couple in the next few days, would you mind just adding questions as you think them up, then go from there? Glad to get to work with you. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 20:37, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

• Left four questions. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:40, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Fakih Usman

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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Crisco, please do consider my comment re: Erinn Walters (and there's a few more like that on the DYK page). DYK rules exclude lists, and in my opinion the main chunk of the article text should be rendered as prose. That's a big deal, cause she writes a ton of them like that. Has this ever been brought up? I think this should be dealt with. Drmies (talk) 02:01, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Chasing After Ghosts DYK review

I've hopefully addressed the elements in the article now. Bladeboy1889 (talk) 11:16, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Tan's Film

Orlady (talk) 16:03, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Some stroopwafels for you!

thanks for fixing Horace-Scope BO | Talk 18:36, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

FAME ze GREAT

The author de-PRODded the article about his other book (see AfD), so to save time I have taken this one straight to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/FAME ze GREAT. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 11:12, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

• Alright — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:26, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Prince Albert of Saxony

Could you help restore the history of Prince Albert of Saxony to Albert, Margrave of Meissen (pretender)?--The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 08:07, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

• Is it supposed to be there? That looks rather unilateral to me. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:12, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Can you restore the history of Grand Duchess Olga of Russia before 12:10, 4 September 2004 to Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna of Russia? And is it possible to restore the history of English and British Queen mothers to the two articles that it was split to English queens dowager and British queens dowager?--The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 22:27, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

• I did Olga, but I don't think I should touch the other one while it is at RfD. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:53, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

David Leonard (publisher)

You deleted lots of the pages I've nominated for deletion, and good to see you participating in the AfD, but I have nominated it for speedy a while ago have a look @ this 'The'ChampionMan1234 23:53, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

• I relisted the debate as there were only two delete !votes. To be safe I wait for at least 3. Those CSD tags were removed by another editor (not creator), and thus cannot apply now. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:57, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK prep 4

Crisco, I noticed there were only seven hooks in Prep 4 and was about to stuff in Rachel Bugg, who had been delayed due to issues with the article but it would be nice to have her in a set that isn't Australia nighttime if possible. I then realized that there were eight articles listed in the credits. It appears that Bronwen Watson (another Australian) has been removed from the hooks list but not from the credits.

Since I don't know what you intended—whether you'd found a problem with Watson like I had with Bugg that needed fixing, or whether she just dropped between the cracks—I don't want to proceed unless I get an all clear from you. If Watson reappears, I'll know that Bugg will have to wait. Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 06:07, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

A little later: On second thought, I'm just going to restore Watson where she had been before the glitch occurred. If she should be removed, there's plenty of time to do so later, and this way there's no risk of someone else coming along and adding an eighth hook, which would be a bit of a mess. Sorry for not thinking it through more thoroughly the first time. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:20, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

• I must have accidentally overwritten it. Good idea. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:27, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

• Glad it all worked out. Rachel will have to wait until the next set. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:34, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

• Mhm. She can be with the old Olympics article — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:35, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

De728631's RFA

Hi! Thanks for pointing me the mistake, although he got my point and gave the response i was expecting from him. Regards. —Hahc21 15:23, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

• You're welcome. Was going to comment there, but considered it may have been a trick question. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:51, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Capture of Mazatlán

I was wondering whether you were able to look at this one. If you bounced off it, let me know and I'll see if Orlady wants to take a crack at it; otherwise, I'd appreciate it if you could take it on. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:13, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

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Surat pertama di WPEN

Kang, tlg bikinkan artikel seorang politisi kebanggaan sy dan warga kalimantan barat tentang artikel seorang gubernur, namanya id:Oevaang Oeray. Dia merupakan gubernur pertama di kalbar. Salam. --Adi.akbartauhidin (talk) 04:28, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

• Bisa tak terjemahin nanti. Ini lagi menyelesaikan artikel Raden Mochtar. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:31, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
• Oke. Kenapa sy tdk pernah sekalipun menulis di WPEN?

Bahasa Inggris sy buruk. Jadi, sy hanya dapat mengandalkan tokoh2 penting WPEN yg dapat berbahasa Indonesia seperti Akang ini. Demikianlah. Assalamualaikum. --Adi.akbartauhidin (talk) 04:43, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

• Wekeke admin kan belum tentu penting. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:45, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Possible CV

I don't have the energy to work on it right now, but it looks like there might be a copyvio issue with Breastaurant, if you're up for taking a look. Mark Arsten (talk) 06:47, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

• Are you referring to the quote farm? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:59, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Paralympic DYK nominations

Hey. If you get the chance, can you review a few of my unreviewed Paralympic DYKs? :) --LauraHale (talk) 10:02, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

To make them easier to find, this is my unreviewed list:

• Template:Did you know nominations/Jake Lappin
• Template:Did you know nominations/Kara Leo
• Template:Did you know nominations/Matthew Cameron
• Template:Did you know nominations/Simon Patmore
• Template:Did you know nominations/Michael Roeger
• Template:Did you know nominations/Matthew Silcocks
• Template:Did you know nominations/Damien Bowen
• Template:Did you know nominations/Stephanie Schweitzer
• Template:Did you know nominations/Kristy Pond
• Template:Did you know nominations/Rosemary Little
• Template:Did you know nominations/Katy Parrish
• Template:Did you know nominations/Jodi Elkington
• Template:Did you know nominations/Rachael Dodds
• Template:Did you know nominations/Kelly Cartwright
• Template:Did you know nominations/Georgia Beikoff
• Template:Did you know nominations/Carlee Beattie
• Template:Did you know nominations/Joann Formosa
• Template:Did you know nominations/Grace Bowman (equestrian)
• Template:Did you know nominations/Rob Oakley
• Template:Did you know nominations/Matthew Bugg
• Template:Did you know nominations/Jannik Blair
• Template:Did you know nominations/Sarah Vinci
• Template:Did you know nominations/Leanne Del Toso
• Template:Did you know nominations/Sarah Vinci

--LauraHale (talk) 10:27, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

• I'll try and take a look — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:55, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Olga

Hey dude; just had to clear up a histmerge that somehow left 40-odd early revisions at Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna of Russia: Revision history. Any idea what happened? :). Ironholds (talk) 17:48, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

• "Crisco 1492 moved page Grand Duchess Olga of Russia to Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna of Russia: Revision history without leaving a redirect: History merge" - Looks like a bad copy paste of the title. Baah. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:02, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Pareh

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:06, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Rachel Lovell

Can you look at that? I'm not at all certain what the hell this means? --LauraHale (talk) 04:45, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

• ? Neither do I. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:14, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Pink Turns to Blue

Crisco 1492, can you please take a look at this one? The sourcing looks a little dubious to me—a website purporting to be reproducing a text which is being used as a reliable source for that text—and I'm not at all sure about the website. I think the reviewer may have been too accepting of the author's explanation, at least for DYK purposes.

Also, with all due deference to Laura, the Paralympics are weeks away, and we're having a bit of a squeeze right now on regular reviews. If you do have review time available, perhaps you could turn it to ordinary DYK articles for a few days to help build up the supply of approved ones. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:31, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

• I weighed in at PTB and yes, there are still issues. Regarding reviews, I generally don't stock so any reviews will come when I have an article to nominate. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:15, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks for PTB. I didn't know about your reviewing process; in my case, I have enough stocked to keep me going for a couple of months at my usual slow rate of production (assuming I pick up again next month). While I have you here ;-), can you please take a look at Template:Did you know nominations/Lighthouses in Gibraltar? It's a very odd duck: the List of lighthouses text section seems to be a lot of detail about sources, and not very much about the lighthouses themselves except for which source lists they were on. Is this useful information, or inappropriate detail? I'm wondering whether there's really enough here to make a DYKable list article, or if it's one that doesn't have enough actual meat to qualify. I've already questioned the History section (lifted from a single lighthouse article, the one that ran the other day with the picture that Hawkeye7 noted was being reused here), which is the basis of the hook; once that's gone, I'm wondering what of interest is left. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:31, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

• Commented. Luckily I have a little experience with lists. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:37, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

• Thank you. I might subconsciously have remembered promoting at least one of them to prep when I thought to ask you; I recognize most of them. Looks like we overwhelmed her; hadn't meant to do that. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:07, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

• Uh oh. That's not good. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:20, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Happy WikiBirthday!

I noticed one of your userboxes said today is your 7th WikiBirthday, so congratulations!--~ScholarlyBreeze~ 21:20, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

• It is, isn't it? Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:27, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

• Congratulations from me, too! Seven years has to be lucky, right? Glad I saw this before the Wikipedia "day" was over! BlueMoonset (talk) 23:45, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks again. I didn't even remember (mind you, my regular editing only began a little over a year ago) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:47, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

• In my case, regular editing began a little under a year ago. It's been quite a year since then, though nothing compared to yours. I need to regain my balance between DYK and article edits; it's been completely skewed the past couple of months. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:15, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

• Yeah, dealing with the non-article creation aspects of DYK can suck the soul out of someone (and time). I've been focusing on articles recently, as I got a book which has introduced me to a fascinating world which is sadly poorly covered. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:26, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Do we have a policy or guideline about this sort of addition to the deletion discussion?

User:Penyulap/UBX/PenGreen1 seems like a sort of inappropriate template to add to a formal process. Maybe I'm oversensitive, but this looks to me a subtle form of lobbying. It's definitely a slippery slope addition; if we start down this road, such processes may be overwhelmed with visuals and cues when they're supposed to stay inside the topic. Are you aware of a guide about such contributions inside AfDs? BusterD (talk) 00:50, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

• UBX has nothing about it, but I agree it looks like lobbying. I'll warn the magician. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:57, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

I've already mentioned this post to that editor on their talk. Hey, I'm all for "live and let live," but I think "down with the deletionists" is way over the top in a formal process. BusterD (talk) 01:01, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!

For cleaning up my mess with Food Network Star/The Next Food Network Star. I apologize for the sloppy work, and the hassle! That's not usually like me. --Drmargi (talk) 08:39, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

• Don't mention it (if you look at #Olga you can see I made a pretty silly mistake myself recently) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:21, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Why did you delete The collapse of the Kamov - 27 in Kazan November 26, 1980

I did rework the article and by doing so added two reasons why the article was notable. You could have at least waited whether those for deletion were still for deletion. Tony Mach (talk) 15:26, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Would you be at least so kind to copy my latest version last version to here User:Tony Mach/1980 Kazan Kamov-27 crash landing, so I can work it into the Kazan article? Tony Mach (talk) 15:33, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

• The discussion was pretty clear. I'll drop a copy in your draft box. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:35, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Death of Abdulredha Buhmaid

Crisco, can I ask you to please take a look on this? The primary reviewer, who also needs a proposed ALT checked, is asking for an NPOV opinion, and it's something I'm bad at discerning in political articles. I'd appreciate it if you could. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:47, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

The 25 DYK Nomination Medal

		The 25 DYK Nomination Medal
		For the 26 articles written by others that you have nominated for DYK, I award you this slightly belated medal. Keep up the good work! Chris857 (talk) 02:11, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:20, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
• Thanks, I went to put that up and was surprised to see it already there! Mark Arsten (talk) 02:22, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

• Just like what happened to me :-p. Did you know... that international-level goalkeepers can write "masterpiece" songs? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:24, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

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hmm

methinks there is a need for NEI disclaimers everywhere in the 'Dutch East Indies' usage, cats or otherwise (its what they bloodywell called it)... but hmm.. your thoughts? SatuSuro 13:18, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

• How would you phrase those? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:45, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for List of films of the Dutch East Indies

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A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	Prompted by List of films of the Dutch East Indies, and in recognition of your efforts to improve our coverage of the East Indies/Indonesia. You practically own this area, and I for one am in awe of the quantity and quality of your work. Drmies (talk) 16:41, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Hear hear! ::cheers and whistles:: Khazar2 (talk) 20:31, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

• Hehe thanks, both. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:05, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Constitution of May 3, 1791/archive2

Thanks for your comments, I have begun to address them. I don't understand what you mean by "the period should be replaced by a semi-colon (not a full sentence) and the "i" made miniscule.". Which period (there are two), and what letter i? And what does it mean in wiki context to "make miniscule"? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 16:49, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

• Replied there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:13, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

SEAL GUI closure

I was surprised with no consensus result of SEAL GUI deletion discussion. Could you please explain your rationale in some more detail? — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 02:18, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

• Undone. That was a bad close. That being said, I think a redirect would be a good idea. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:21, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Replied there. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 02:56, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

More Asian TV channels/networks that might need protection

The IP editor from 180.241/251 is back hitting brand new Asian TV channels/networks that could probably use some protection: STAR Plus, Prime Sports, STAR Chinese Channel, BBC World Service Television, MTV Southeast Asia and STAR News. Thank you for your help, Aspects (talk) 02:25, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Mutts Rule!

Mutts forever!

• Indeed! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:05, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Adnan Kapau Gani

Yngvadottir (talk) 08:03, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Could you please explain ...

You closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Muhammed al-Darbi. You didn't leave an explanation for the reasoning behind your closure.

I wrote to you before -- about your closures of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amy Bechtold and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Conn (judge). You didn't explain those closures either. When I tried to discuss these closures with you, you described my comments as too long, didn't read.

Frankly, your comments seemed to indicate you barely skimmed the arguments in the discussions -- skipping completely over those you didn't already agree with.

In the Muhammad al-Darbi Afd five contributors weighed in.

• 1 delete all
• 2 keep all
• 1 redirect all
• 1 delete or merge all

Did you regard this as a clear majority favoring delete? I suggested to you before that in all Afd where arguments were offered for different positions it was important for the closing administrator to leave a concluding statement that explained their closure.

I suggested, in the Afd, that group Afds were only appropriate when the articles in question all triggered the same concern. In this Afd the nominator didn't actually read the articles in question -- they claimed all the articles in question were of Guantanamo captives -- when several weren't. Participants in the discussion took the nominator's misinformation at face value, and they didn't read the articles for themselves, either. I was frankly surprised you didn't take this into account. Geo Swan (talk) 08:38, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

• Several editors have warned you about misrepresentation and misquoting. By my count there are

• 2 delete all (you forgot the nominator)
• 1 keep all
• 1 redirect all
• 1 delete or merge all
• 1 comment

• If you believe that they could/should be redirected, feel free to make the proper redirects. However, consensus was clear that a keep was out of the question. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:51, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

How would you characterize the arguments in those posts? Consensus should not be calculated solely by the balance of votes. I was the commenter in that article and while I was on the fence about the notability of each individual, the inappropriate bundling and other issues with the nomination and deletion process in other BigXRay AfD's suggested a WP:TRAINWRECK was in the works.

Can you address my other concern with WP:R#HARMFUL and WP:R#KEEP with preserving the useful page history and undelete these pages before a redirect is performed? --Joshuaism (talk) 14:22, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

• The close was based mainly on the quality, not quantity, of !votes. All subjects presented had minimal coverage except relating to a single event (per WP:BLP1E, that's not enough). Several editors have looked for sources, and Bushranger indicated that the subjects probably failed 1E from the getgo.

Regarding the redirect question, whatever non-trivial history there was is not used to provide attribution for merged articles. As the delete !votes were the strongest, it is clear that consensus was the content needn't be on the encyclopedia in the form it had there. If you or another editor wish for an undelete to merge content into a "fooians held in Guantanamo" article, I'll be glad to provide it so long as the page is redirected afterwards. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:38, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Please do so and contact me when the undelete is complete so that I may perform the redirect. Thank you! --Joshuaism (talk) 16:12, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Merge

You suggested merging this article at AfD: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Oscar_Flight_UFO/Missile_Incident. No one has done so yet, because there are no reliable sources to do so. Do you have any suggestions for how to proceed? IRWolfie- (talk) 15:11, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

• A line, maybe, if that much can be confirmed. Something like indicating that "allegations that a UFO incident took place" — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:16, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

• I basically agree with Bushranger and Buckshot: just a mention is enough. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:17, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for First Hatta Cabinet

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:04, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

your assistance please

You closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Comparison of Iraq War to the Algerian War. For this article you provided an explanation of your closure, writing "It looks full of OR and, unless multiple works have been published doing an in-depth histiography of the subject, is not a viable encyclopedic article."

WP:BEFORE recommends nominators to check to see if references support the notability of the topic of the article, without regard to whether the article is currently in a weak state.

A brief search confirms that this topic has been covered in multiple works. You said you think those works have to have done an "in-depth histiography". You don't say why. Did it occur to you that coverage of the Pentagon arranging special viewings of the famous film The Battle of Algiers, so Iraqi war planners could learn from the Algerian War, is just as valid substantiation that comparisons between the two wars was the subject of serious discussion?

• Robert Matthews (2007-09). "Misguided wars: Comparing the lost French cause in Algeria with the US debacle in Iraq" (PDF). Fundación para las Relaciones Internacionales y el Diálogo Exterior. Retrieved 2012-08-04. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)
• William Pfaff (2004-09-26). "'De Gaulle option' may be our best Iraq exit strategy". Seattle Times. Retrieved 2012-08-04. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |dead= ignored (help)
• Elaine Sciolino (2003-09-28). "The World: Common Ground in Paris; 'This Is Not as Serious as People Think'". New York Times. Retrieved 2012-08-04. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |dead= ignored (help)
• Alistair Horne (2011). A Savage War of Peace: Algeria 1954-1962. New York Review Books. ISBN 9781590174814. Retrieved 2012-08-04. {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |dead= ignored (help)
• "Re-release of The Battle of Algiers". CNN. 2004-01-01. Retrieved 2012-08-04. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |dead= ignored (help)
• Michael T. Kaufman (2003-09-07). "What Does the Pentagon See in 'Battle of Algiers'?". Rialto Pictures. Retrieved 2012-08-04. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |dead= ignored (help)
• Zbigniew Brzezinski (2006-06-14). "President's Baghdad Trip Sparks U.S. Iraq Policy Debate". PBS Newshour. Retrieved 2012-08-04. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |dead= ignored (help)
• Ritt Goldstein (2004-04-08). "Iraq revolt: Tactics of diversion". Asia Times. Retrieved 2010-10-. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help); Unknown parameter |dead= ignored (help)
• Alain Gresh (2008-03-07). "Iraq: Did the Surge Work?". Middle East Online. Retrieved 2012-08-04. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |dead= ignored (help)

So I request userification. Geo Swan (talk) 01:43, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks for userifying. I trimmed all the unreferenced paragraphs, and was going to explain that, on the talk page. But first, could you also userify the previous talk page? Geo Swan (talk) 11:58, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

• Done, but I strongly advise against putting this in main space until it can be better fleshed out. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:23, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Help please.

Could you tell me why this table won't work here please? Aaron • ^{You Da One} 12:28, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

• Looks like Status got it for you. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:05, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Rd Mochtar

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:22, 5 August 2012 (UTC) 08:02, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Just a comment

Hi! I reviewed the DYK nomination for Nancy Bikin Pembalesan. It passed the review. Just one request; is it possible to expand the lead slightly? May be one-liner on plot? Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:06, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

• Done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:40, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

;

Is this the ; you were talking about? And I am sorry, I still don't see which letter i needs to be made lowercase... Will work on the other issues today or tomorrow, thanks for the review! --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 19:33, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

• Check out my recent edit. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:42, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

A couple of DYKs to revisit

Crisco, here are a couple of DYK nominations where issues you have noted are said to have been addressed:

• Template:Did you know nominations/Death of Abdulredha Buhmaid
• Template:Did you know nominations/Lighthouses in Gibraltar

Thanks for taking another look. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:07, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

•  Done although you had some issues with the noms too — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:49, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Link Oevaang Oeray di web citation

Kan, biasanya abang cari arsip di webcitation. Gimana sih, cara mencari link berita di sana? Soalnya dah aku coba, tapi gx bisa. Ini loh linknya: Dari Jakarta Post. Kasitahu, yah, cara mencarinya dan tlg carikan link Jakarta Post tersebut di webcitation. Tlg, ya? Plis. T'rims sebelumnya. --Adi.akbartauhidin (talk) 02:36, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

1. Klik di "Try it! Archive a URL here. It's free and takes only 30 seconds."
2. Masukkan URL (http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2012/06/09/w-kalimantan-proposes-national-heroes.html)
3. Masukkan email
4. Klik "submit"
5. Siap digunakan (klik di link kayak http://www.webcitation.org/69jHmHZjH ) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:45, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

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FAC response

Hi. I'm the editor nominating Sons of Soul for FAC. I made some fixes in response to your comments, but also have questions/comments of my own about some of your points. Dan56 (talk) 13:12, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

• Yep, I've got it watchlisted. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:25, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

VidMuze Page Deleted but needs to be modified.

Yes, if you can open the VidMuze page up again so I can make changes to it, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mgvideographer (talk • contribs) 15:10, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you very much for participating in my RfA. I appreciate that you took the time and effort to assess my contribution history, something that most people couldn't be bothered to do.

Oh, and just as a side note, I hope you didn't feel badgered or irritated by my response to your oppose. I had felt compelled to post a link to the "Sherlock" comment in my answer to Q3, for reasons of disclosure, which is where Mysterytrey originally picked it up from. I looked at it after the fact and actually felt kind of bad, sort of a "holy crap, I didn't mean for it to come across that way!" moment. I opted against posting on the talk page of whoever initially added that material to the article, in the off chance that they did not see the edit summary (and thus, no harm no foul). I don't mean to sound as if I'm above saying things that can be construed as being offensive, but I'm generally a pretty easy person to get along with. Hopefully your impression of me wasn't permanently soured, but if it was, I won't hold it against you. If ever you see me around, don't worry — I won't bite. ;)

Anyways, take care. =)

(P.S. you're doing a great job as an admin so far) Master&Expert (Talk) 23:32, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks M&E. A bit more experience (edit count wise) and content creation will go a long way at RFA the next time you decide to run. Not necessarily Featured Content, but a couple of GAs at the very least. Seeing an article through to GA or FA shows dedication and can be a factor in how people !vote. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:41, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

• No problem. And on that related note, I actually have an article going through DYK right now - Forced evictions in Azerbaijan. I've discovered a real passion for article writing that I hope to build off of in the months to come. Master&Expert (Talk) 00:57, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

• Very nice (I'd suggest renaming to Forced evictions in Baku, as other parts of Azerbaijan may have expropriation issues too) If you are looking to work with human rights articles, Khazar2 is always a big help. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:00, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

• I've done so. I'll drop him a line sometime. Thanks for the advice. =) Master&Expert (Talk) 01:17, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

• Cheers! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:29, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK reply

You have a response waiting at Template:Did you know nominations/Parental brain. Silverseren^C 07:43, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

• Replied. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:49, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

• And you've got another reply. I also fixed up a few things in the article myself. Silverseren^C 09:43, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

A question of image licensing

I found an image which should be in the Rape during the Bangladesh Liberation War article. It can be viewed here The image is quite graphic so I will understand if you do not wish to look at it. It appears all over the web so I have no idea who owns it, would it be allowed under fairuse? Darkness Shines (talk) 16:44, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

• I doubt that would pass NFCC#1. Sorry! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:11, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

AfD/merge of Oscar Flight UFO/Missile Incident

Hi again Crisco, I've completed the AfD merge of Oscar Flight UFO/Missile Incident into Malmstrom Air Force Base, so I'm contacting you as requested to handle the deletion of that page, which has been identified as an unlikely search term. I'm not sure how the attribution will work, in accordance with Wikipedia's licensing terms, but perhaps you'll deem that my merge was enough of a paraphrase as to not need it. The relevant content is in the 341st Strategic Missile Wing section; giving it its own section felt too WP:UNDUE. I'll leave the article for deletion as a redirect in the meantime. Best, BDD (talk) 22:01, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

• Done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:13, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Köllnischer Park DYK

Hi: Thanks for promoting this, but wouldn't the bear pic show up better? See nom page. Yngvadottir (talk) 04:53, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

• I think the park shows up fine, but feel free to sub in the bear if you want. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:49, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I went ahead and did so. TAP didn't look at the separate German Wikipedia article on the Berlin bear, which has a section on the Bärenzwinger and this pic, which suits his hook better. --Yngvadottir (talk) 12:09, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

SFF as a RS?

To be honest, I think it's one of those sources that's sort of half reliable, half not. I've heard people say that it is, but then others say that it isn't. I've never really gotten a straight answer on it. 0.o I think that was one of those sources that I added but wasn't entirely sure about.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 05:27, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

• Makes sense. I don't deal with the genre that much, so I skipped it when looking for sources (then again, I didn't know DVD Talk was reliable either) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:50, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination for parental brain

Hello, now that you have approved my DYK nomination for parental brain, what exactly is the next step? Do I have to wait for someone to promote it to one of the prep areas? Thank you very much for all your help with this article and your patience. Carina1205 (talk) 17:26, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

• Yep, you just wait until someone builds the preparation areas (the step before the queues) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:56, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

New message

Hi Crisco - you have a new message from me at the teahouse (I've used the blue colored "you have new messages" template once, unable to locate it now - I will find it again, just tired). My post there is deeper into the thread, not sure I need to notify you here. Take care. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions#Expansion_Tag Albeit27 (talk) 19:11, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Questia

Sign up.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:14, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Copyrighted pictures?

Hello,

I've been referred to you by another editor who said you are very good with image copyright.

If we look at this from Wikimedia Israel:

The spokesperson unit of the Israel Defense Forces began publishing its photographs online (on its Flickr account) under a free Creative Commons license. This move follows a long and protracted process of legislation promoted by WMIL in discussions in the Science and Technology Committee of the Knesset, the Israeli parliament. While legislation meant to free any work created by the Israeli government of copyright has not yet been accepted, the move by the IDF is certainly motivated by it. Hundreds of IDF Spokesperson images are now in use on Wikimedia projects. WMIL released a widely circulated press release condoning the move by the IDF spokesperson.

Now, a recent attack (2012 Egyptian-Israeli border attack) could use a photo of the attack, and such photos are provided on the IDF Spokesperson website. HOWEVER, these photos have NOT been uploaded to the IDF's Flickr account. I'm wondering whether I would still be allowed to upload these pictures from their official website, even though they're not on their official Flickr account.

Some other useful information - on many of the pictures (if not all, I just havent' seem them all) uploaded here on Wikipedia by the IDF, there is a notice by an administrator below that says the administrator reviewed it to make sure it was on the IDF's official Flickr account... I'm not sure though whether it would still be OK to have it on their official website, and perhaps they only checked to see if it was on their Flickr account to make sure it was legitimately the IDF.

So... Would I be allowed to publish pictures of the attack from the IDF official website that are NOT on the IDF's official Flickr account?

Thank you so much for your help. I really appreciate it. --Activism1234 02:17, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

• The IDF images on Flickr that you linked to do not allow commercial reuse, which is necessary to be used on Wikipedia (we aren't commercial, but people who reuse our content sometimes are). However, I have good news for you. The IDF blog is licensed CC-BY-SA (Creative Commons Share-Alike Attribution), which is okay to use (click on "some rights reserved" at the bottom of the page; it links to this) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:24, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Side note: In case the license changes, I'd suggest archiving this version using http://www.webcitation.org  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:25, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! I appreciate it! --Activism1234 03:37, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

sigh

Ntv7 SatuSuro 09:03, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

• Love your edit summary. Protected for one year. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:45, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Nadar

Ok, I finished my comments on Nadar, sorry if I end up splitting hairs there by the end. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:13, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

• LOL, could be worse. You could have taken a portal review. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:15, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Can't say I have any experience in those... alright, well, I've passed the article. Think you'll try for featured with it? Mark Arsten (talk) 03:45, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
    • That would be fun, but I bet most of the offline references are in Europe (like that French booklet). Thanks for the review! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:52, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

No photo?♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:30, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

• Hmm? Hermaphrodite (Nadar) has six of the 9 (and one of Nadar) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:31, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
  • The folks at Did You Know wouldn't give it the lead spot for some reason... we have a nude person as the DYK picture today though, so perhaps attitudes are changing. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:28, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

New message

You have a new message at Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion/Internet_pornography_statistics#Merge_or_delete --Tito Dutta ✉ 19:33, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

• Replied there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:12, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

FAC question

Thanks for your review and leaned support at 3 May Const article. I have another article that recently passed milhist A-class that I'd like to push towards a FA, Stanisław Koniecpolski. Do you think I should wait for when the 3 May is passed, or can I have two FACs at the same time? Time-wise, I should be able to handle both, it's more of a "are there enough reviewers" issue. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 20:15, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

• Per FAC: "An editor is allowed to be the sole nominator of only one article at a time; however, two nominations may be allowed if the editor is a co-nominator on at least one of them." So, in other words, guidelines say no. However, occasionally one of the delegates will give permission to run more than one at the same time. I suggest asking Ian Rose or Graham Colm  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:05, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Maladi

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

CPJ International Press Freedom Awards

Okay, I wrote a lengthier intro section for CPJ International Press Freedom Awards--I'm at about 3250 characters. Take a look and let me know what you think. I've looked at a few samples, but still don't have a great feel for how these usually read. So I'm happy to do whatever more revision is needed. Otherwise feel free to go ahead and co-nom at your leisure. (I'll keep participating, but you're far more used to the process/paperwork involved.)

Incidentally, I also wrote to CPJ directly to see if they have images of their awards banquet we can use as another illustration, or at least to give us a broader choice of individual winners. I like the ones you've already posted, though, so no need to wait for them before moving forward.

Thanks for this offer! Should be fun. Khazar2 (talk) 03:54, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

• Alright, I'll bump it up with references (apparently it's not all on one page :-( ). It may be nice to have a brief descriptor of what they got it for. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:00, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I can do that--it's the sort of repetitive task I excel at. Just do one to give me an example format to follow (e.g., should each person be footnoted? Or each year?) I can handle the descriptors, too, though CPJ doesn't always name just one incident in giving the award. Khazar2 (talk) 04:03, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

• I just added one in. No need to archive if you don't want to, but I find it easier to maintain. The only issue with having information on what they did in the table is that it will have to be individually cited (hence why I suggest not adding it yet) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:12, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Mannus Franken

Orlady (talk) 16:03, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Albert Balink

Orlady (talk) 16:03, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination for Child sexual abuse accommodation syndrome

Greetings, several changes were made to this article during the DYK nomination. If you could please take a look at the article, provide me with feedback and approve for DYK status. I really appreciate your time and help.

ProBonoPublicoA90 (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.150.162.39 (talk) 17:01, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Visual Arts Center of Richmond

Hi! I understand that you were the administrator who deleted the page for the Visual Arts Center of Richmond, and I was hoping I could get a copy restored so that I might edit it and fix the problems with the page. I had worked on it for the better part of a day, went to bed, and when I woke up to work on the page some more, it was gone. I understand that there was a problem with a quote I had included not meeting the criteria for how to cite a source, and am happy to delete the quote. i also intended to work on making the piece read more "neutral" and had researched sources to cite a lot more of the information.

I spent a lot of time on this page (my first ever) and would appreciate the chance to improve the page rather than have it deleted without that opportunity.

Thanks!

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moxfulder99 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.176.203.23 (talk) 19:52, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

• Hi Moxfulder, I'm sorry but I can't do that. The article was deleted for copyvio as it was too close to the source material (in places the exact same). Copyright law does not allow an exact copying and pasting of copyrighted material, and the VACoR has full copyright over their text. You're welcome to start from scratch, assuming you paraphrase the source better. For example, rather than use a quote from the source you could has something like "The Visual Arts Center of Richmond, located in the Fan District of Richmond, Virginia, is an arts center dedicated to improving community awareness of visual arts." and so on. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:08, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Removal of Wikileaks revelations from Indonesia page

Hi Crisco, I just wondered why you had removed the addition of Wikileaks revelations to the Indonesia page entry 'foreign relations' section. Primary sources were provided. The cables have been a huge point in modern international politics, and I think worthy of inclusion. They provide an insight into what the US Government really think about the current administrations handling of one of the most pressing domestic issues facing Indonesia - that of the independence struggle in West Papua.

• You should discuss major, potentially POV, changes such as that on the talk page. In an article where Srivijaya gets a sentence, a whole paragraph on US positions is clearly undue. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:50, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Screenshot photos

Sorry to bother you again. If a news channel streams a broadcast online (in my case, France24) and I take a screenshot of it, am I allowed to upload it to Wikipedia (I assume as my own work)? Or is it copyrighted?

NOTE: The photo is not to provide info on what France24 station looks like. Rather, it's a scene shot by one of France24's cameras.

Thanks! --Activism1234 01:31, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

• France 24 would own the underlying copyright, with your screenshot as a derivative work. As France 24's content is not under a free license, it is unsuitable for Wikipedia. Sorry! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:20, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Interesting. Thanks! No worries. --Activism1234 05:32, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Nancy Bikin Pembalesan

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:03, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Rajbir Dujaniya

Hi I created the above page.. which was nominated for speedy deletion by Zaldax (talk) on 02:34, 8 August 2012 (UTC) 16:59,

And before I could react ( i am not that frequent to wikipedia) you deleted on same day (8 August 2012 Crisco 1492 deleted page Talk:Rajbir Dujaniya )

I think it is a bit unfair that I or others were not given chance to clarify on the matter.. and if I remember correctly I have also given links to prove his notability as per guidelines in earlier deletion notice (a link to his song on itune and one other site which i dont remember now but had link on that page). So please look into the matter and undo it.. Thanks [[User:imdabs|Amit Амит अमित ਅਮਿਤ]] ([[User talk:imdabs|talk]]) (talk) 12:58, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

• Hi Imdabs, I've looked over the article that was deleted and at the time it was deleted it didn't have a clear indication of importance. That being said, it's possible that you have further sources. Would you like me to recreate the article for you in your user space for you to work on? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:50, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
• Hi Crisco 1492,

thanks for responding, sorry but i don't know how this user space thing work, if it needs me to find more links for proving his notability than i can work on it, as there were many links from the recommended sites about his work(as he has given couple of major hits for Bollywood movies as main singer).. but if i am needed to find more about his personal life etc it would be difficult as even i am not able to find much for some reason. even Google returns mostly results on his work rather than about himself.. i do suspect he is facing some sort of media blackout.. i have created this page in the hope someone in the know would add [[User:imdabs|Amit Амит अमित ਅਮਿਤ]] ([[User talk:imdabs|talk]]) (talk) 22:56, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Philip Tilden

Thanks for the nomination and for cleaning up the links. I'm completely at sea on those since my Reflinks Tool stopped working. Should he see it, I think Tim will find aspects of Tilden's life rather funny. KJP1 (talk) 14:39, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Pagaruyung Kingdom

Hello there - there's a bit of a revert war with an IP editor at this article. They seem intent on restoring some dodgy material, and removing categories and other good info in the process. It's just going back and forth between the IP and other editors. Can it be semi-protected? --Merbabu (talk) 21:04, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

•  Done — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:13, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Matur nuwun, Pak. :-) --Merbabu (talk) 00:25, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

• Sami-sami. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:27, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

wah our saviour and guardian angel (Indonesia project) - barnstarts, medals and more elaborate javanese honorifics for your ongoing admin maintenance of a long suffering project... SatuSuro 01:09, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

• LoL. In the immortal words of Project Pop: Ku bukan saudagar, bukan priyayi. (or, rather, a 2008/2009 pop hit) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:11, 13 August 2012 (UTC)