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British or American

Hi. I hope you (being American) are neutral and don't reject British English (see: Wikipedia:Neutral point of view); and you didn't fix everything, for example on one page you restored a word I had written in British English, but not the other terms. JacktheBrown (talk) 13:05, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

@JackkBrown I've been trying to restore the status quo, mostly just removing the British English tag and leaving it neutral, and only changing it to American English in a few rare cases where the article had clear Americanisms ("cookie", "flavor", etc.) and no British spellings. I've been trying to leave your British English tag in cases where British spelling was already being used. If I missed a few or misjudged the status-quo, feel free to point it out to me or revert my changes. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:23, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

@Ahecht: regarding the other articles I don't know, but is the bruschetta page written ONLY in American English? JacktheBrown (talk) 13:30, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

@JackkBrown, they actually could have used rollback, per WP:ROLLBACKUSE.

Re: Bruschetta, it looks like it's in AmEng except for appetiser, which it looks like you changed from appetizer? Valereee (talk) 13:38, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

@Valereee: if the article is written ENTIRELY in American English, "appetiser" is incorrect. But if both English (except "appetiser-appetizer") are used, it's fair to choose which one to use. JacktheBrown (talk) 13:41, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I changed it yesterday; that's why I asked if the article is written entirely (except for that term) in American English. JacktheBrown (talk) 13:42, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

@JackkBrown, are you asking whether as a native speaker of AmEng, I can confirm that it appears to be written in AmEng? Yes. Maybe as a person whose native tongue is Italian, you should stop changing anything to BrEng. It's disruptive. I feel like I should probably go check all your edits. Which is a huge undertaking, as I am so comfortable with both variants that not everything even jumps out at me. When did you start doing this? Valereee (talk) 14:12, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

@Valereee: in fact, I stopped since yesterday. JacktheBrown (talk) 14:15, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Good to hear. Do you recall when you started? I really dread the thought of having to check 60,000 edits lol... Valereee (talk) 14:17, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

@Valereee: I only did this for Italian foods, it would be sufficient to check them all (see here: List of Italian foods and drinks). JacktheBrown (talk) 14:21, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Oh, is that what you've been working from, thanks! Valereee (talk) 14:26, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

@Valereee: just check the most common words ("'flavor", "recognized", "'appetizer" (especially these three), "color", etc.) and get a bot to work, or even Ahecht, which has done a great job so far. JacktheBrown (talk) 14:32, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Ahecht, would you like to continue the work? Obviously, I don't want to rush you. JacktheBrown (talk) 14:54, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

@JackkBrown I've been working through them slowly when I have downtime. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:06, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

@Valereee Actually, in this case, because AnomieBot went and dated all the tags after they were placed, I can't do a simple rollback (at least not from the Contribs page). As for Bruscetta, as of Special:Permalink/1176284276 it was entirely American English ("appetizer"). --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:06, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Should have said 'would be allowed to use'. :D Valereee (talk) 20:33, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Punchline (fictional character)

I received your ping, but I only saw it after you had already removed the message with this edit. What was the reason for removing the message? I am fine with withdrawing the request. I should checked more thoroughly first. I was just confused on the back-and-forth with the response being added and then taken down only a few moments later. Aoba47 (talk) 01:33, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

@Aoba47: I had initially replied that nothing had changed with regards to notability, but then almost immediately noticed that the character had had their own limited series since the last AfD and withdrew my statement. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 03:52, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the response. That is fair. I just wanted to double-check that I had not messed up anything on my end. I hope you are having a good day so far. Aoba47 (talk) 15:09, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Italian foods

You're doing a great job; you have corrected other things too, thank you very much! Of course I have no doubts about you, but I would like to know if you have deleted only my additions concerning British English or if you have also changed the consolidated English of some articles; thank you very much for your work. JacktheBrown (talk) 22:22, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

There have been a few articles where I've come across an earlier switch that I've reverted (such as this 2014 edit to Ossobuco) and a few where I've changed mixed usage to British English to reflect earlier established usage. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:31, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi, on the bruttiboni page, both the "biscuit" and the "cookie" form are used; what should be done in this situation? I don't intervene in such things, so I'm asking you. JacktheBrown (talk) 17:37, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

@JackkBrown In that case, since the first revision used biscuit, British English would stand. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 17:56, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

thank you! I don't know if you're interested, but I'm working on the tartufo page; in my opinion it's not good at all and should be improved. JacktheBrown (talk) 20:05, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Is the template correct on the piada dei morti page? I didn't add it. JacktheBrown (talk) 00:50, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

@JackkBrown Probably not, as I don't see any spellings in the original version of the article that are indicative of either British or American spellings. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 01:49, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

@Ahecht: what about the ciabatta page? Both "whole-wheat" and "wholemeal" are used. JacktheBrown (talk) 18:18, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

It looks like the whole-wheat version was first: Special:Diff/585979668. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:32, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

could you correct the error? I promised not to intervene again regarding the change of English. JacktheBrown (talk) 21:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Should I leave or remove templates that you haven't removed? Examples: canestrelli; cassata. JacktheBrown (talk) 16:39, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

@JackkBrown If I left it, it's probably because I thought there was an established use of British English. For example, Canestrelli used "biscuits" from its first revision. I probably didn't remove it from Cassata since it has used "coloured" for a while, but looking at it now it has had "color" and "flavor" for even longer. I'll fix that one. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 17:45, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

So should I restore the template on the canestrelli page? JacktheBrown (talk) 17:57, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

@JackkBrown Sure, if you want. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 18:43, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi, the pizza article has problems. A long time ago, the "Use British English" template was inserted, and not by me (so it's consolidated), but I noticed that there are non-English terms, such as "flavor"; I don't know all the American variants, could you take care of that? Thanks in advance. Update: I added the template, a month ago (I didn't remember it); here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pizza&diff=prev&oldid=1220888505.
Please also check the pasta article.
JacktheBrown (talk) 21:45, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

It looks like the original version of Pizza used "favourite", so BrEng is appropriate. Valereee (talk) 22:30, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

@Valereee and JackkBrown: WP:STYLEVAR says to use the first post-stub version of the article in which one of the applicable styles appeared, so that single-sentence article doesn't count. The first time a regional variant appeared in a multi-sentence version of the Pizza article that I could find was Special:Permalink/1229788 which uses "flavor". --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:35, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

No, according to Valereee, "It looks like the original version of Pizza used "favourite", so BrEng is appropriate." (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pizza&oldid=275788; "favourite"). JacktheBrown (talk) 13:40, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

@JackkBrown Special:PermanentLink/275787 is a one-sentence stub, which WP:STYLEVAR says doesn't count. "Favourite" was removed in the very first edit that expanded the article beyond a single sentence, and "flavor" was introduced a few edits later. You added the "Use British English" template in April 2024. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:46, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

"You added the "Use British English" template in April 2024." I specified it. JacktheBrown (talk) 13:48, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

I think Ahecht has a point; that first version was a sentence. Jack, why are you arguing this so hard? It's simply not that important, and as I've told you many times, this rule was put into place to prevent this kind of disruption. Not because the variant of English is important. Wikipedia literally doesn't care which variant is used; at most we care that it's consistent within an article. Valereee (talk) 19:02, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

@Valereee: all right. JacktheBrown (talk) 22:05, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

@JackkBrown Looking over the history of Pasta, the first regional variant I could find was the introduction of "color" in Special:Diff/7703437. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:37, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

For the Parmesan page, however, "flavour" is used; can I add the template? JacktheBrown (talk) 13:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

@JackkBrown The first regional spelling I can find in Parmesan is "flavor" in Special:Permalink/77735645. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:01, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

All the articles in American English? God, this seems excessive... JacktheBrown (talk) 14:17, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Anyway, do what is right (Parmesan), both variants of English are fine for me. JacktheBrown (talk) 15:27, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps we should double-check all the pages more carefully. JacktheBrown (talk) 13:53, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps we should WP:drop the stick. Valereee (talk) 19:03, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Page move revert help

Hi @Ahecht, please undo this move. There was an ongoing discussion between me and Amuru before you moved it. Also help me add the move discussion tag back as I have reopened the talk page discussion. I need you to act urgently as it may appear in malformed move and more trouble elucidates.... Thanks. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 14:43, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

@SafariScribe Looks like Amakuru opposed after I performed the move, but before I could clear the request. I'll go ahead and unwind things. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 15:55, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Judeo-Christian navboxes/doc

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"Raisi (disambiguation)" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Show by/iso

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Precious anniversary

Precious

Nine years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:26, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:48, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Yuna Kim A-class assessment

Hi Ahecht, Yuna Kim is up for an A-class assessment and it's currently languishing because we haven't been able to find a third reviewer. This bio is the first A-class assessment by WikiProject Figure Skating; see here for more information. I notice that while you don't tend to contribute to figure skating articles, you are an active and experienced editor and you've made at least a few edits to Kim's bio in the past. Would you mind helping us out? It'd be muchly appreciated. Thanks, Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 23:13, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

@Figureskatingfan Sorry, I wish I had the time to do an in-depth review, but I have other priorities at the moment. Good luck! --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:36, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Request to use WP:JWB on list of common misconceptions

I removed quite a few #invoke templates incautiously when my edits to references were breaking them. Sorry for this. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 08:30, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

@Rollinginhisgrave  Done --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 12:38, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Refresh script, protected pages

I tried using the refresh script on https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Unreal_Engine but eventually one of the pages was protected. I got a dialog that said the page I tried to edit was protected and it seems that the script stopped after that. How can I update this page? A lot of the links are not accurate. Thanks! J2UDY7r00CRjH (talk) 07:03, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

@J2UDY7r00CRjH I've modified the script so that it will continue even after an edit error. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:08, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

CrowdStruck

At Motion to conclude, can you edit your comment to clarify whether you specifically support a Snow closure? Jruderman (talk) 15:25, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

refresh.js purge mode issues

Hello, User:Ahecht/Scripts/refresh.js doesn't seem to work when the purge link is pressed. An error is raised because postFail is not defined and for the API request that goes through, it complains that the title parameters should be titles. Also, using a static tag for the call to mw.notify so a single popup is updated rather than generating a new one each time would be nice. Otherwise, the null edit mode seems to be working really well. Thanks, – BrandonXLF (talk) 22:22, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

@BrandonXLF Thanks for letting me know. This is a combination of two things -- I did some modifications to the purge function a year ago to try to avoid the API timing out but it causes the title/titles error, and I recently did some updates to the null edit feature which seems to have broken the error message. I did a quick fix so both work now, although the purge function will be fairly slow since I'm purging one at a time (the API allows 50 at a time, but it times out when I try to actually do that many, so I still need to find out where the "sweet spot" is).

As for re-using the bubbles, having them stack was intentional, but you can put var refreshReuseBubble = true; in your common.js above the call to refresh.js to change this behavior. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 03:07, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick fixes and the new config variable! As for the timeout issue, does it still occur if you use forcelinkupdate instead? – BrandonXLF (talk) 03:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

@BrandonXLF A non-recursive link update doesn't seem to make much of a difference. I have a version in the sandbox that sets the number of pages to purge at a time to the minimum required to make the ratelimit on par with that for null editing (so 3 at a time for normal users, 1 at a time for admins since they don't have a purge rate limit), but I'll have to test it more before making it live. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 04:49, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

randomincategory not working at least for fa-wikipedia

Hi. Thank you for creating Random page in category tool. This is awesome and I've been using it for a long time.

I was trying to open a random page from this category on fa-wikipedia and noticed that the tool is not working and returns an error saying "There are no pages in the رده:حذف زمان‌دار منقضی شده category on fa.wikipedia.org." This link is the one I used and encountered the error. The tool is fine when you set the server on enwiki.

Can you please take a look at the issue? Thanks. Jeeputer ^Talk 16:50, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

@Jeeputer I can't read Farsi, but are you including the equivalent of "Category:" in the URL (for example, https://randomincategory.toolforge.org/Category:Fish instead of https://randomincategory.toolforge.org/Fish)? It may not be filtering that out correctly due to it being a right-to-left language. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 00:32, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes. I've tried both forms with and without namespace prefix and it does not work in either way. The tool used to work a few months ago. The page's title has a Zero-width non-joiner character, if it can help to debug. I can see that character is encoded into the URL I provided above: "حذف_زمان%E2%80%8Cدار_منقضی_شده". Maybe decoding URI components can help. Jeeputer ^Talk 00:39, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

@Jeeputer Thanks for the update. The only change that was made in the last few months was adding a maximum size limit for categories, but something in that new code must be breaking on Farsi titles. I did a partial rollback which fixed the issue, but I'll have to put a more permanent fix into place at some point in the future. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 15:47, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Tech barnstar

		The Technical Barnstar
		Thanks for creating Module:Flag and Module:English Heritage listed building, which    cleared two items from my talk! – wbm1058 (talk) 16:15, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

You're welcome! --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:20, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

RandomInCategory example is broken

One of the examples on toolforge:randomincategory/README.html no longer works, since Category:All WikiProject Medicine articles was moved to Category:All WikiProject Medicine pages. On the bright side, now that the category contains pages from multiple namespaces, there's another chance to show off the namespace filtering option! jlwoodwa (talk) 06:21, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

@Jlwoodwa: Thanks! --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 15:05, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Requested moves

Hello Ahecht, I'm new to working requests, I noticed this edit, is there no bot archiving? Do we remove the request when done working it? Hoping you can help a rookie. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 01:08, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

@FlightTime Nope, no bot. There was a discussion about making one a month or so ago, but I don't think anyone's taken the initiative. Requests are cleared immediately when completed, contested requests are removed 72 hours after the last comment. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 01:14, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Got it, thank you for your time. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 01:21, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Rhinerrhizopsis

Hello Ahecht, and thank you for your work. The genus of orchids called Rhinerrhizopsis is now a synonym of Bogoria according to Plants of the World Online.[1]https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:28849-1#synonyms As I understand it, I can't move the Rhinerrhizopsis article to Bogoria, because there is already an article with that name. I am not confident enough to do a "swap". Can you help please? Gderrin (talk) 21:12, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

@Gderrin I flagged it for an administrator, since this should be done as a merge and not a swap. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:18, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

That's great. Thank you. Gderrin (talk) 21:20, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

@Gderrin I replied at WP:RM/TR as well, but I moved the request to the contested section since there was already a failed merge proposal at Talk:Bogoria (plant)#Merger proposal from 2021. It was closed as "not at this time", so it may be worth opening a new merger discussion, but that would happen at that talk page, not the move requests page. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 23:51, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks again for your work on this. I've done a "merger proposal" (Talk:Rhinerrhizopsis#Merger_proposal) and will get back to you in about a month, if that's okay. Gderrin (talk) 04:59, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

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Module:English Heritage listed building

Hi, the edit history indicates that you implemented this module in June. There's something wrong with the way the notes column is handled. On articles with notes, such as Grade I listed buildings in Maidstone and Grade I listed buildings in Derbyshire, the notes are appearing in the Grid ref. Geo-coordinates column with the intended contents of the subsequent columns pulled into the previous columns - so that Entry Number appears in the Notes column, etc.. Would you see if you can fix the placement. DavidCane (talk) 13:23, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

@DavidCane Thanks for the heads up. Should be fixed now. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:36, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Looks good now. DavidCane (talk) 13:52, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey, I just wanted to say thanks for performing the move of Sonja Sigurðardóttir. Cheers! 2003:D5:AF2E:E600:9102:9FAF:E0C3:E661 (talk) 07:35, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Module:Navbox and WP:PEIS

Cound we integrate {{Navbox with columns}} and {{Navbox with collapsible groups}} into Module:Navbox, just like zh:Module:NavboxV2? For example, instead of

Extended content

{{Navbox with collapsible groups | name = {{subst:PAGENAME}} | title = Title | state = expanded | selected = all | group1 = Group1 | abbr1 = all | list1 = List1 | group2 = Group2 | abbr2 = all | list2 = {{Navbox with columns|child | col1width = 33% | col2width = 17% | col3width = 33% | col4width = 17% | col1header = Col1Header | col2header = Col2Header | col3header = Col3Header | col4header = Col4Header | col1 = {{Navbox with columns|child | colwidth = 50% | colstyle = text-align:center; | col1header = Col1.1Header | col1 = Col1.1 | col1footer = Col1.1Footer | col1footercolspan = 2 | col2header = Col1.2Header | col2 = Col1.2 }} | col2 = Col2 | col3 = {{Navbox with columns|child | colwidth = 33% | colstyle = text-align:center; | col1header = Col3.1Header | col1 = Col3.1 | col2header = Col3.2Header | col2 = Col3.2 | col3header = Col3.3Header | col3 = Col3.3 }} | col4 = Col4 }} | group3 = Group3 | abbr3 = all | list3 = {{Navbox|child | group1 = Group3.1 | list1 = List3.1 | group2 = Group3.2 | list2 = List3.2 }} }}

You could do

Extended content

{{Navbox | name = {{subst:PAGENAME}} | type = vertical_collapsible<!-- Navbox with collapsible groups --> | title = Title | state = expanded | selected = all | group1 = Group1 | abbr1 = all | list1 = List1 | group2 = Group2 | abbr2 = all | list2 = child | 2_type = horizontal<!-- Navbox with columns --> | 2_col1width = 33% | 2_col2width = 17% | 2_col3width = 33% | 2_col4width = 17% | 2_col1header = Col1Header | 2_col2header = Col2Header | 2_col3header = Col3Header | 2_col4header = Col4Header | 2_col1 = child | 2_1_type = horizontal | 2_1_colwidth = 50% | 2_1_colstyle = text-align:center; | 2_1_col1header = Col1.1Header | 2_1_col1 = Col1.1 | 2_1_col1footer = Col1.1Footer | 2_1_col1footercolspan = 2 | 2_1_col2header = Col1.2Header | 2_1_col2 = Col1.2 | 2_col2 = Col2 | 2_col3 = child | 2_3_type = horizontal | 2_3_colwidth = 33% | 2_3_colstyle = text-align:center; | 2_3_col1header = Col3.1Header | 2_3_col1 = Col3.1 | 2_3_col2header = Col3.2Header | 2_3_col2 = Col3.2 | 2_3_col3header = Col3.3Header | 2_3_col3 = Col3.3 | 2_col4 = Col4 | group3 = Group3 | abbr3 = all | list3 = child | 3_type = vertical<!-- Default sets to vertical --> | 3_group1 = Group3.1 | 3_list1 = List3.1 | 3_group2 = Group3.2 | 3_list2 = List3.2 }}

Dabao qian (talk) 15:22, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

@Dabao qian That's a great idea, and it was certainly on my to-do list until I looked deeper into those templates and realized just how much work would be involved in integrating them. "Collapsible groups" can already be replaced by using a child groups, swapping |groupN= for |N_title=, swapping |groupstyle= for |N_titlestyle=, and swapping |abbrN=ABBREVIATION for N_state = {{#ifeq:{{{selected|}}|ABBREVIATION|uncollapsed|{{{stateN|collapsed}}}}}. For example, the first group in Template:Navbox_with_collapsible_groups#Basic_example could be replaced with a normal navbox that used

  |list1 = subgroup
  |1_title = [[University of Michigan#Academic profile|<span style="color:#00008B;">Academics</span>]]
  |1_titlestyle=background:#FFD700;color:#00008B;
  |1_state = {{#ifeq:{{{selected|}}|academics|uncollapsed|{{{state1|collapsed}}}}}
  |1_list1 =
* [[University of Michigan College of Engineering|College of Engineering]]
* [[University of Michigan College of Literature, Science, and the Arts|College of Literature, Science and the Arts]]
* [[Gerald R. Ford School of Public Policy]]
* [[University of Michigan Law School|Law School]]
* [[University of Michigan Health System|Medical School]]
* [[Ross School of Business]]
* [[University of Michigan School of Education|School of Education]]
* [[University of Michigan School of Information|School of Information]]
* [[University of Michigan School of Music, Theatre & Dance|School of Music, Theatre & Dance]]
* [[University of Michigan School of Natural Resources and Environment|School of Natural Resources and Environment]]
* [[University of Michigan School of Public Health|School of Public Health]]
* [[Taubman College of Architecture and Urban Planning]]

--Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 17:24, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

And also needs to add |N_navbar=plain to avoid the v/d/e link. For "Columns", how to distinguish listN or colN? In zh:Module:NavboxV2, we use listN/colN prefix and the - notation (like listx-listy or colx-coly). But for childN_/subgroupN_ prefix or only numeric prefix, it will be hard to distinguish listN or colN. Dabao qian (talk) 19:02, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

@Dabao qian |N_navbar=plain is automatic when using the N_ notation so it isn't needed. Doing columns would require a more intensive re-write of the module than I have time for at the moment. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:50, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of Module:Inflation

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pageswap tag

Hey Ahecht. I really appreciate your pageswap script, and I like that it now includes a link back to the script. As I'm sure you've run into, there are occasionally some rather long move summaries in which the end gets cut off. E.g., this diff or this log entry for two recent technical requests.

To save on characters in move summaries, rather than using "(using pageswap GUI)", you could ask an admin to create a tag for the script via Special:Tags.

The only change you would need to make to the script to add the tag to all its edits is to replace the three instance in User:Ahecht/Scripts/pageswap-core.js of

watchlist: params.watch

with

watchlist: params.watch, tags: 'pageswap'

And a wikilink can be added to the tag via MediaWiki:Tag-pageswap – such as [[User:Ahecht/Scripts/pageswap|pageswap GUI]]. SilverLocust 💬 02:19, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

If any admin is willing to create the tag, I'd be happy to add it to the pageswap code. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 03:02, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Simple process for admin:

1. Click here and click "Create".
2. Click here and click "Publish page".

SilverLocust 💬 07:12, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks; I've created both now. Elli (talk | contribs) 19:17, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

@Elli, SilverLocust: Thanks. I've updated the sandbox version and will copy it over to the main script after a bit of testing. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 20:42, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Just lemme know if you need anything else done in mediawiki-space. Elli (talk | contribs) 22:04, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Something bad happened here

... [2] — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:29, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

@MSGJ Oops, thanks for the heads up. I'll have to take a look at the script. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:33, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

 Done: Special:Diff/1245362491. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 15:57, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. How hard is it to write a script? I would like to have a go at writing one which would help clean out Category:Articles with conflicting quality ratings. There would be three actions to choose for each page ("Remove conflicting class", "Use conflicting class" or "Skip") — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:01, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

@MSGJ It really depends on how much you're familiar with Javascript. Most of my script writing has been based on taking other people's logic and adding features, fixing bugs, or improving the UI (the draft sorter script was based on User:Enterprisey/draft-sorter, my pageswap script was based on User:Andy M. Wang/pageswap, my templatesearch script was based on User:SiBr4/TemplateSearch.js, etc.), so my suggestion would be to find a script that's close enough to what you want to do and dry to decode it. For what you're doing, draftsorter would be a good place to start, but you could strip out all the code related to jquery.chosen and dealing with predictions . --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:13, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm not familiar with Javascript at all, so it's probably going to take me a long time. But if I have a go, do you mind helping me? (Might not be for a while ...) — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:16, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Sure, feel free to reach out when the time comes. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:30, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

mapframe directly so it doesn't count as Lua time

That looks like an interesting trick. May prevent so much use of cache purging to clean up pages as more than about 5 seconds usual Lua time use can break pages badly after an edit if the back end server infrastructure has problems. I will see how it works on a heavily edited page by vandals perhaps best after you have pointed me towards the #tag documentation and then roll out to the other pages that I know call big raw geojson templates ChaseKiwi (talk) 23:35, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

@ChaseKiwi It wasn't my idea -- it's documented in the first bullet point under "Note:" at the top of Template:Maplink/doc. You can thank Jackmcbarn for that. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 00:27, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

ta - I must have glanced over that point one day early on in my use of mapframe functionality. ChaseKiwi (talk) 01:28, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Scripts/refresh

Hi :) I noticed that the script does not allow null editing in the links here of a category, would it be possible to enable that? --GryffindorD (talk) 20:08, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

@GryffindorD I've modified the sandbox version at User:Ahecht/sandbox/Scripts/refresh.js so that it works from pages such as Special:WhatLinksHere/Category:X or Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:X to null edit linking pages instead of transcluding pages (for templates) or category members. Please try it out and let me know if it works as expected, and I'll copy it over to the main script. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 23:23, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Works! Thank you very much :D GryffindorD (talk) 03:56, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

ircredirect

Hi Ahecht, it looks like KiwiIRC.com is down (again, and again for a few days), so the redirector isn't working. I've opened a PR to use Libera Chat's own hosted instance which I think is a bit more stable for any connections to Libera Chat, though I would consider having some configurable target webchat instance a better option for the longer term. Please can you take a look when you get chance, and if you're happy merge it and deploy it to Toolforge? Thanks muchly :) stwalkerster (talk) 18:20, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

@Stwalkerster I'd want to get consensus on-wiki first. I'm not sure when/where the original decision to use kiwiirc was made, but I'll post something to Wikipedia talk:IRC help disclaimer. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 00:14, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

@Stwalkerster Scratch that. Looks like the backup link on Wikipedia:IRC help disclaimer has been pointing to web.libera.chat without controversy for some time now. I went ahead and implemented the change. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 00:40, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! stwalkerster (talk) 10:26, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

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Use a colon instead of a period

Could User:Ahecht/Scripts/pageswap-core.js please be updated so that when one of the common move reasons at the "Swap" form is selected, it will be followed by a colon instead of a period in the move log entries (like at Special:Redirect/logid/164530745, for example)? The behavior is currently inconsistent with the one at Special:MovePage, where a colon (not a period) would appear in the move log entries, e.g., at Special:Redirect/logid/164552365. GTrang (talk) 00:59, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

@GTrang I've implemented that in the sandbox version. Feel free to try it out. It will get copied over to the main script the next time I am making revisions. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:37, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

@GTrang  Done. The change is now present in the main version as of v2.3.3. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 18:19, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of AEK Athens F.C. results in European football for deletion

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PAGE) 18:12, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Ah I see, thanks for the heads up! S.A. Julio (talk) 19:13, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

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Our Admin Election Test

Hello there. As we're preparing to move from one stage to the next, this is just a quick note from one member of the test group to another, wishing you well in the process of this new alternative to RfA. It seems that there are more of us in this group than some in the community anticipated, so i hope that doesn't make the experience any the worse for all of us. Whatever our individual results, i thank you, along with the rest, for stepping up and testing this process; happy days, ~ Lindsay^Hello 07:14, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

@LindsayH Thanks, and good luck! --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 12:35, 21 October 2024 (UTC)