Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Montenegro/Archive 5

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Albania TF for Principality of Zeta and Duklja

I tagged Albania TF Principality of Zeta and Duklja, hope there are no problems for the Montenegrin users. The reason behind is that it included large parts of today's Albania and it has to be studied as a historical part for both Montenegro and Albania. Hope there any problems, if there are, please let me know in my talk page. Btw these pages have been developed mostly exclusively by Montenegrin users, so before making any edits, the Albanian editors will be very careful. Thank you for letting me use your talk page. Best! --_Sulmues^{Let's talk} 01:13, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure they have enough to do with Albania for the 'Albania Topics' template to be included on the articles. These places were ruled by Serbs and they were inhabited by Slavic-speakers. The only way they seem to be related to Albania is that some of their former territory just so happens to be in present-day Albania. It's not like you'd put this same template on Byzantine Empire just because the territory of Albania was once part of that empire. --Local hero ^talk 01:46, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Both states (Zeta and Duklja) include Shkoder and Malesia and sometimes Zadrima. Please allow me to disagree that those three settlements/areas have been inhabited exclusively by Serbs over the time of their existence, as I would dispute that. In addition let's make a parallel with the Despotate of Angelokastron and Lepanto. It was ruled by Albanian rulers (Gjin Bue Shpata), however the territory falls under today's Greece, in addition Greeks lived there at that time, not only Albanians, hence it is covered by the Greece TF, as well as the Albanian (Talk:Despotate of Angelokastron and Lepanto). The example that you bring on the Byzantine Empire is impertinent because you would have to include probably 12-13 countries and that would have been problematic, so there is a consensus there, but Zeta and Duklja are only Serbian-Montenegrin-Albanian related.--_Sulmues^{Let's talk} 02:07, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

These articles mention Albania or Albanians few times throughout their entirety. So one assumes that Albanians had no significance in either of these states and it is thus very confusing to have a template called 'Albania Topics' at the bottom of an article about a place that seems to have little to do with Albania. --Local hero ^talk 02:40, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

You may be right and probably I'm not taking the right approach. In the articles Albanians are not mentioned at all and they should, because they were part of those states, but I thought it was a given. Well, let's have some more Albanian contributions to those articles first and then we can put those templates. For now feel free to remove them if you don't feel like they belong there. My point is we, as Albanian contributors should give some more contributions in those articles before tagging them. --_Sulmues^{Let's talk} 03:36, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Please remove it as Duklja and Zeta have nothing to do with Albania. Montenegro is the continuity of Duklja and Zeta that's why it has Montenegro topic. Like LocalHero said, you wouldn't put Albania topics on Byzantine Empire. So can you please remove it from Zeta and Duklja? Rave92^(talk) 14:25, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

I removed, although I think that in the future it will be replaced again. Those states included Albanians and in a broader sense Albania TF should cover, but for now the Albanian contribution is really poor so I'm holding off. Thanks! --_Sulmues^{Let's talk} 15:06, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

As promised I retagged. Per talk in Talk:Demetrius_of_Pharos, which is now tagged WP Montenegro per the same reasoning. --Sulmues ^(talk) 02:05, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Pljevlja

I assessed article Pljevlja as class=C instead of previous class=GA, because it lacks references. It has been rated as GA on 3 December 2008 by an IP. I think that was mistake? Am I wrong? Kebeta (talk) 09:19, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Move proposal: Occupation of Albania

There is a move proposal Talk:Occupation_of_Albania_(1912–1913)#Move_proposal.Alexikoua (talk) 20:12, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Montenegro page makeover

Hi,

Was wondering if anyone would like for me to do a makeover for the WikiProject Montenegro page? It will look really good. Let me know if you all are interested. Regards. Wiki Raja (talk) 04:53, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Sure, let's see what you've got -- C D 18:33, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Will let you know in a week. Wiki Raja (talk) 06:46, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, sure, it cant hurt... Sideshow Bob 17:22, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Jadran (ship)

The discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jadran (ship) may be of interest to participants here. Jadran (ship) is a training ship of the navy of Montenegro, and was originally built for the navy of Yugoslavia. -- Eastmain (talk) 15:35, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Montenegro page makeover complete

Hi,

Please let me know what you all think of this new and improved page here I've created for the WikiProject Montenegro. If you all like it, then I'll go ahead and merge this page. Regards. Wiki Raja (talk) 03:20, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I think it is way better then the current one. You have my support. Sideshow Bob 16:46, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it is nice, although some amendments for aesthetic purpose should occur. For example, I don't know about others, but I don't really think that the buttons in the top are rather nice. I understand the idea (impression from the national Flag), but still. --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 10:22, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh, come on, no need for nitpicking... If you can do a better job, go on, no one is stopping you :) Sideshow Bob 10:42, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

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Suggestion

I suggest the group the reconsideration of the part about the ethnic groups in the city of Cattaro/Kotor. There, in a given list of ethnic groups, such as Montenegrins, Serbs,Croats, etc., a category under the name of "the Muslims" seems odd to me. Excuse me but isn't there a difference between the definition of ethnic groups and religion groups? I do not understand why a religion group falls under the category of ethnic groups. Who are these "the Muslims"? The Turks, the Arabs, or the native people who converted to Islam? Say they are the native people, does it make a difference? Is there any difference between a Christian Montenegrin and a Muslim Montenegrin in respect to their ethnicity? Cliom (talk) 21:09, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

@Cliom Hey, next time try clicking "new section" so it would be in order by date. Anyway Muslim as ethnic group, well it's very discussable but what is most importing that people in Montenegro can declare as a Muslim (in ethnic meaning). It was like that since the communism and some Muslims in Montenegro declare them self as Bosniaks, some as Muslims and some as Montenegrins.

"Is there any difference between a Christian Montenegrin and a Muslim Montenegrin in respect to their ethnicity? "

Not really. Like I said, there are people who are Muslim(religion) but say for them self they are Montenegrin, and some declare as Bosniaks/Muslims. It's a long story, but the point is that they can declare them self as Muslims, and in each census you have % of declared Bosniaks and Muslims, and they are separate. Rave92^(talk) 22:35, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Montenegro Country Article

Hello. I was reviewing the article on Montenegro and noted that much of the article has problems with grammar, style, and as a result, does not read well. I am not sure if cleaning the article is already part of the wider Montenegro project. If so, I will leave it in the hands of those responsible for that. If not, and there is consensus, I can start cleaning the article to conform to written English. Please advise. Thanks.Gary Joseph (talk) 15:34, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

You want to write it grammatically correct? Sure, Montenegrin articles needs a support from people whose English is native language and who speak it and write it properly. Rave92^(talk) 19:22, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

"Dobar Dan". Okay. I will get on it as soon as possible. I will have to do it in parts, as the article is long and I do not want to override new changes being made to it. I will only change it for grammar and some style, but not for content. If I see any change that might conceivably affect content, I will flag it and leave it up to the Project for discussion. I will keep you updated on my progress. Thanks.Gary Joseph (talk) 21:23, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Hehe, dobar dan ;). Thanks for your further effort. Best regards. Rave92^(talk) 22:04, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Separate

Why on earth does it say Serbian in Cyrillic and Montenegrin in Latin? As if both dont use both scripts...? --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 14:21, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Serbian more uses Cyrillic. Rave92^(talk) 02:57, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Proper name for the navy of Montenegro?

Since there's no separate article for Montenegro's navy, what is the most common name for it? I've been categorizing ship articles and created Category:Ships of the Montenegro Navy (and some subcats) since that is the name generated by Template:Country data Montenegro when using {{navy|Montenegro}}. If there is a different name, please let me know and I'll change the category names. Also, was there a different name for the pre-1918 navy (like maybe Royal Montenegrin Navy?) as compared to the post-2006 navy? Many thanks in advance. — Bellhalla (talk) 15:52, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

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Albania TF for Principality of Zeta and Duklja

I tagged Albania TF Principality of Zeta and Duklja, hope there are no problems for the Montenegrin users. The reason behind is that it included large parts of today's Albania and it has to be studied as a historical part for both Montenegro and Albania. Hope there any problems, if there are, please let me know in my talk page. Btw these pages have been developed mostly exclusively by Montenegrin users, so before making any edits, the Albanian editors will be very careful. Thank you for letting me use your talk page. Best! --_Sulmues^{Let's talk} 01:13, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure they have enough to do with Albania for the 'Albania Topics' template to be included on the articles. These places were ruled by Serbs and they were inhabited by Slavic-speakers. The only way they seem to be related to Albania is that some of their former territory just so happens to be in present-day Albania. It's not like you'd put this same template on Byzantine Empire just because the territory of Albania was once part of that empire. --Local hero ^talk 01:46, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Both states (Zeta and Duklja) include Shkoder and Malesia and sometimes Zadrima. Please allow me to disagree that those three settlements/areas have been inhabited exclusively by Serbs over the time of their existence, as I would dispute that. In addition let's make a parallel with the Despotate of Angelokastron and Lepanto. It was ruled by Albanian rulers (Gjin Bue Shpata), however the territory falls under today's Greece, in addition Greeks lived there at that time, not only Albanians, hence it is covered by the Greece TF, as well as the Albanian (Talk:Despotate of Angelokastron and Lepanto). The example that you bring on the Byzantine Empire is impertinent because you would have to include probably 12-13 countries and that would have been problematic, so there is a consensus there, but Zeta and Duklja are only Serbian-Montenegrin-Albanian related.--_Sulmues^{Let's talk} 02:07, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

These articles mention Albania or Albanians few times throughout their entirety. So one assumes that Albanians had no significance in either of these states and it is thus very confusing to have a template called 'Albania Topics' at the bottom of an article about a place that seems to have little to do with Albania. --Local hero ^talk 02:40, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

You may be right and probably I'm not taking the right approach. In the articles Albanians are not mentioned at all and they should, because they were part of those states, but I thought it was a given. Well, let's have some more Albanian contributions to those articles first and then we can put those templates. For now feel free to remove them if you don't feel like they belong there. My point is we, as Albanian contributors should give some more contributions in those articles before tagging them. --_Sulmues^{Let's talk} 03:36, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Please remove it as Duklja and Zeta have nothing to do with Albania. Montenegro is the continuity of Duklja and Zeta that's why it has Montenegro topic. Like LocalHero said, you wouldn't put Albania topics on Byzantine Empire. So can you please remove it from Zeta and Duklja? Rave92^(talk) 14:25, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

I removed, although I think that in the future it will be replaced again. Those states included Albanians and in a broader sense Albania TF should cover, but for now the Albanian contribution is really poor so I'm holding off. Thanks! --_Sulmues^{Let's talk} 15:06, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

As promised I retagged. Per talk in Talk:Demetrius_of_Pharos, which is now tagged WP Montenegro per the same reasoning. --Sulmues ^(talk) 02:05, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Pljevlja

I assessed article Pljevlja as class=C instead of previous class=GA, because it lacks references. It has been rated as GA on 3 December 2008 by an IP. I think that was mistake? Am I wrong? Kebeta (talk) 09:19, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Move proposal: Occupation of Albania

There is a move proposal Talk:Occupation_of_Albania_(1912–1913)#Move_proposal.Alexikoua (talk) 20:12, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

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Req move

Some info may be useful at this requested move. Thanks! --WhiteWriter ^speaks 11:16, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

List of Yugoslav World War II monuments and memorials

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List of Yugoslav World War II monuments and memorials

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WikiWomen's History Month

Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Montenegro will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in Montenegro's history, society and culture. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 22:07, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Scope of WikiProject Yugoslavia (FRY)

g'day all, Just a note to draw the attention of participants in this WikiProject to the discussion of the scope of WikiProject Yugoslavia, at which there is a current discussion about whether the FRY should be included in that wikiproject. Cheers. Peacemaker67 (talk) 04:13, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Montenegro acceptance of A-Class assessment by WikiProject Military History

G'day all, This project does not have a track record of many A-Class reviews. In order to progress more articles to A-Class and FA status within this WikiProject, I propose that we agree to accept A-Class assessments from WikiProject Military History, which has an active and comprehensive process for A-Class review. Thus, if an article passes A-Class for WikiProject Military History, it would automatically be promoted to A-Class status in this WikiProject as well. Peacemaker67 (talk) 07:21, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Split proposal

I am informing members of related WikiProjects about split proposal.

FR Yugoslavia / Serbia and Montenegro

You are welcomed to give your opinion. Thank you. --WhiteWriter^speaks 14:28, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Boris, Hereditary Prince of Montenegro

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Requested move notification

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Languages in censuses and Race and ethnicity in censuses

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Expert attention

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Vandalism

User:Lackope vandalize articles about Montenegrins example Montenegrin Australian, Montenegrin American, Montenegrins of Kosovo, Montenegrin Canadian, Template:Montenegrins, Montenegrins--ChumleeS (talk) 10:58, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

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Category discussion about Serbs of Montenegro

Please see Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2015_May_8#Category:Serbs_of_Montenegro. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:52, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Category:Montenegrin people of World War II

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Nikola Vukčević (historian)

Hi, this article has been tagged "Notability" since 2008 and does not list any sources. I'm wondering if someone would be able to take a look and decide whether the article should be expanded, redirected or proposed for deletion. Thank you. K.e.coffman (talk) 08:02, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Yugoslavia vs. Serbia and Montenegro at the Olympics

Hello, we would like your input on where FR Yugoslavia's results at the Olympics should be listed. Here is the relevant discussion. JoshMartini007 (talk) 18:31, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Persecution of Eastern Orthodox Christians listed at Requested moves

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Focus on Montenegro at Women in Red

In May 2018, in conjunction with m:Wikimedia CEE Spring 2018/Article Lists, Women in Red is focusing on the countries of Central and Eastern Europe. We hope there will be contributions on women from Montenegro.

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Category renaming discussion

G'day all, if you are interested, there is discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 January 20 about the renaming of a category relating to Montenegrin Chetniks. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:40, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

"Serbo-Croatian"

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The new instructions use Wikipedia's general peer review process (WP:PR) to list peer reviews. Your project's reviews are still able to be listed on your local page too.

The benefits of this change is that review requests will get seen by a wider audience and are likely to be attended to in a more timely way (many WikiProject peer reviews remain unanswered after years). The Wikipedia peer review process is also more maintained than most WikiProjects, and this may help save time for your active members.

I've done this boldly as it seems your peer review page is pretty inactive and I am working through around 90 such similar peer review pages. Please feel free to discuss below - please ping me ({{u|Tom (LT)}}) in your response.

Cheers and hope you are well, Tom (LT) (talk) 22:49, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Also I have updated your page archive settings, as I see there are discussions here dating back to 2009. --Tom (LT) (talk) 22:49, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

First women MP(s) in Montenegro

Hello. I'm compiling a list of the first women MPs in each country, but have been unable to find the answer for Montenegro. I'm guessing they would have been elected in the 1945 Yugoslavian parliamentary election or possibly one of the early elections to the legislature of SR Montenegro. If anyone can point me to a definitive source, it would be much appreciated. Cheers, Number 5 7 18:08, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Tušina

Hi. I came across Tušina, which is, according to the (unsourced) article itself, a river in Montenegro. However, all other-language versions of this article, including the Serbian one, are about a village with this name, not a river. I can't find anything online about a river with this name, so does it even exist? I hope someone here knows or can find out! Lennart97 (talk) 10:25, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Montenegrin or Serbian

I kindly ask you to help me resolve the issue about the language-template usage in this and similar articles. Should I use Montenegrin or Serbian to transcribe the names? Add your comments here. Thank you. --Governor Sheng (talk) 13:34, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Category:Montenegro articles needing expert attention has been nominated for discussion

Category:Montenegro articles needing expert attention has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Peaceray (talk) 20:43, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

RfC on the lede of Bar, Montenegro

I've started an RfC on whether a name used by less than 1% of the local population of Bar, Montenegro, should be in the first line of the lede: [1]. Khirurg (talk) 22:47, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

New NPR piece on Chinese construction project

Here is a NPR piece that details some of the controversial Chinese highway construction in Montenegro: [2] Thriley (talk) 15:33, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:01, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments

Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:51, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Women in Green's 5th Edit-a-thon

Hello WikiProject Montenegro:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a month-long Good Article Edit-a-thon event in October 2023!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2023, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Around the World in 31 Days! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 31 countries (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

We hope to see you there!

Grnrchst (talk) 13:26, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Royal Montenegrin Army

Royal Montenegrin Army redirects to Kingdom of Montenegro but also contains an unreferenced but plausible article. Please can a knowledgeable editor remove either the #REDIRECT or the article text as appropriate? I'm not sure which is better. Thanks, Certes (talk) 10:34, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Well, I got what I asked for... the page is flipping repeatedly between article and redirect. I'd love to see a consensus on which is better, but don't feel qualified to contribute to it. Certes (talk) 15:52, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Request for input on post-Yugoslav-breakup election article naming

We had a discussion relisted at Talk:May 1992 Yugoslavian parliamentary election#Requested move 3 November 2023 that could benefit from the input of people who have knowledge of this topic area, please check it out. --Joy (talk) 09:13, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Lake Skadar#Requested move 5 January 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Lake Skadar#Requested move 5 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 23:44, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Developing Countries WikiContest

Starting this July, we will see a new contest on the scene - the Developing Countries WikiContest (WP:DCWC)! Think of it as a WikiCup but only for articles and media on developing countries.

Competitors may submit GAs, GTs, FAs, FTs, FLs, FPs, and DYK and ITN entries from/on developing countries to gain points and climb the leaderboard. Points are also awarded to those who review GAs, FAs and FLs.

Montenegro is listed as a developing country for the purposes of this contest and articles related to it are eligible to be submitted for points, so I encourage everyone here to sign up and compete with editors from around the world to create high-quality content!

Append your name to the DCWC signup page today!

Best wishes, Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI (^{talk to me!}/_{my edits}) 07:18, 19 May 2024 (UTC)