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Timelines???

Weird, so i checked a band here and i saw that they have a timeline so i went to check the timelines but they are blank. I checked some others and they are also blank, so i tried editing to fix it so that anyone can see it but idk how, everytime i check on the preview it works but on the real thing it doesnt. (i use a phone btw) --FromFrank✎Talk♬ 22:26, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

FromFrank: Hmm, timelines appear for me in desktop mode (e.g., [1]) but not mobile (e.g., [2]). Probably something for WP:VP/T. Eman235/talk 22:33, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

I need Help for creating a page

i try to make a page of one of my favorite actor but it gets delete all the time. Kindly Help me to creating the page. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shan Baig (actor) (talk • contribs) 21:11, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse! Start with taking the time to read Wikipedia:Notability (people). If you conclude "Yep, I have those sources, no problem", continue with Wikipedia:Your first article. If not, edit something else. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:50, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
From your Talk page, appears you are trying to write about yourself. Autobiography articles are rarely accepted. David notMD (talk) 00:32, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Need help formatting a template

With Template:Academic ranks, would someone who knows how please create two sub-boxes under North American system. It's beyond me to do. Thank you. deisenbe (talk) 18:04, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

I looked at this again, and I think I had not saved something, which made this request possibly confusing. I’ve fixed that now. deisenbe (talk) 08:54, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Page deletion

Hi,

My Page (Ooty flower show - link added by CiaPan (talk)) was deteled and the message states:

This page has been deleted. The deletion, protection, and move log for the page are provided below for reference.

  • 15:21, 22 May 2019 Boing! said Zebedee talk contribs deleted page Ooty flower show (G8: Page dependent on a deleted or nonexistent page) (thank)
  • 18:03, 20 May 2019 Derek R Bullamore talk contribs moved page Ooty flower show to Ooty Flower Show (Capitalisation of name) (revert) (thank)

Please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Streamingriver (talk • contribs)

@Streamingriver: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You may want to directly ask the administrator who deleted it, but it appears that the article in question was deleted as promotional. This is probably because it had no independent reliable sources with significant coverage of this event that show how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable event, written at WP:NEVENT. The sources it had are the website of the event and routine event announcements, which do not establish notability. 331dot (talk) 10:08, 23 May 2019 (UTC)


my page Rehab Yoga was deleted, I am new to wiki and not sure why it got deleted. how can I recover the deleted page. Please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Streamingriver (talk • contribs)

@Streamingriver: It was deleted for the same issues as your other article; it did not indicate how it meets our definition of notability. I am wondering if you work for a PR firm or other business that edits for clients? 331dot (talk) 11:37, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

I don't work for any PR firm just doing it out of interest. Kindly guide me as to how to recover these page so I could correct my mistake. Thanks in advance ( Streamingriver (talk) 12:17, 23 May 2019 (UTC) ).

Help searching text

I need help searching the text for an update to an article. The text is just so overwhelming. I am looking for a string "<ref></ref>" that is giving me an error message when I insert it into the article. Oddly enough this doesn't happen in the draft. Is there any thing like coloured markup code or grep that we can use to make our lives easier? Any help is appreciated. The text is at User:TheDoDahMan/draft2. Thanks in advance. TheDoDahMan (talk) 08:06, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

It would be more helpful if you included a link to the page you are talking about. I've also added nowiki tags around your example, it was generating an error here! Martin of Sheffield (talk) 08:56, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
  • What Martin said ^, plus, you can copy and paste the text of any draft or article from the edit-source window into any text editor or word processor/spreadsheet and use whatever search tools you prefer - or, even, save the text file and actually use grep!... You don't have to do that - most browsers let you search the text in a page, so if you do that in edit-source mode it should be enough. But yes, show us what you are actually looking for and it will be much easier to help. -- Begoon 09:10, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
    Thanks, I never thought of that! I found the offending tags BTW.TheDoDahMan (talk) 09:34, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
    • You're welcome. You mentioned "coloured markup code", so to be complete I guess I should mention Wikipedia:Syntax highlighting. When you are in the 'edit-source' window you should see an icon like this: in your toolbar (not to be confused with the pencil icon on the far right, which will switch you to the visual editing mode). Clicking that icon will toggle coloured syntax highlighting of wiki-code on/off. If you don't see that icon in your ordinary or advanced toolbar you're probably in "new-wikitext" mode, in which case it'll be available from the menu icon: . -- Begoon 10:51, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks Begoon, I'll try that. I installed Notepad++ which has a nice grep-like function. I will try using that in future when I have a problem.TheDoDahMan (talk) 11:27, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
A fine choice. Notepad++ is an excellent text editor which I use constantly. It would have been my recommendation had you asked. -- Begoon 11:37, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Hi again. I can't figure out how to get the syntax highlighting in Notepad++. I went into settings->style configurator and changed it to HTML but no highlighting happens and when I restart it, it reverts to gloabal override. Any tips? I got the highlighting to work on the WP editor by the way.TheDoDahMan (talk) 12:36, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, I think that confused me way back when... Language-H-HTML from the menu is what you want. Language-XML is almost the same, and quicker. It doesn't do a great deal for most wikitext. settings->style configurator is an advanced thing for fiddling around with what gets highlighted and how - you could use that to create your own 'wiki' highlighting style - but that's quite advanced and I've never felt the need - I stick with plain text usually. -- Begoon 12:50, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks again! Yes XML highlighting works but its not as good as the WP editor, I think I will stick to the WP editor for now, unless its a really big file.At least I have the Find function :-)TheDoDahMan (talk) 13:11, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Editing Kindie Rock page

Hey folks!

I'm a radio DJ for kids with interest & expertise in properly representing & theorizing about independent kids' music, AKA "kindie." I'd like to completely overhaul Wikipedia's "Kindie Rock" page, because as of now it's just a series of advertisements for bands, & that just stinks. I just want to make sure that the extensive deletions & edits that I will make won't be flagged as vandalism or anything of that sort. :-) Here's the relevant page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kindie_rock

Thanx! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.81.193.253 (talk) 15:03, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

I suggest you start it in Sandbox and then submit it. If you need more assistance let me know --XTMontana (talk) 17:47, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
OK cool, I will do so! This will be the 1st page I've edited, so I'm not sure what exactly is the best way to go about as of yet. Thanx for your help!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.250.240.100 (talk) 19:08, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
If you need assistance, let me know IP user --XTMontana (talk) 15:14, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Yay! Thank you! It might take me a week or two to put it together to satisfaction. P.S. Sorry I keep switching IP addresses--I used a different computer & I still need to create a good login. :-)

No problem. Since you keep switching IP, Would you mind leaving a link to the draft? --XTMontana (talk) 16:13, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

I just re-activated a login. Here's the very tentative Sandbox page I made. :-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wizard_Derk/sandbox I plan to expand the existing article into historical and (perhaps) genre sections, as well as kindie-related media such as radio shows, blogs and podcasts (I will not mention my own radio show--I'll leave that to other people if they think it's notable). Wizard Derk (talk) 17:16, 22 May 2019 (UTC) P.S. Just noticed that the citations are messed up, because I copied & pasted the original article text into my Sandbox. I will fix that soon!

Okay thanks, if you want I can help "clean it up" so to speak. like just some small edits --XTMontana (talk) 18:02, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Dude, I really appreciate your support!! I don't want to ask for too much help, though. :-) I'd also like to plot out the rest of the page before I start fine-tuning & editing it. If you have any immediate suggestions, I'm all ears! This page isn't a very important page in the grand scheme of Wikipedia, but it's important to me and the kindie community.

It isn't a problem, I need something to do anyways! I can understand the importance! --XTMontana (talk) 15:07, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

How Do I Create a Wikipedia Page

Hi, I want to create a wikipedia page on myself. How can I attain this / go about doing this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seemoretutors (talk • contribs) 01:31, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

See the autobiography policy and don't do it. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:10, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
If someone else wanted to do one, they would need "reliable sources" to cite.WP:RS Also, if you were notable enough to merit an Article, there would probably already be one.WP:N Also don't try to get someone else to do it. [puppet], or try to do it yourself under another name/account WP:SOCK. And they can always delete it for various reasons [deletion]Tym Whittier (talk) 03:21, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not social media. "Notability" means being famous enough that other people have published articles about you. David notMD (talk) 04:35, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Your username is also against Wikipedia policy. You cannot name your account after your business or use Wikipedia for any promotional purpose. Please submit a change of username as your account may be blocked for this reason. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:12, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

A new draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Terry_Marks-Tarlow,_Ph._D.

I inserted all pertinent information into a new draft of an article about a prominent person in the field of psychology. I do not have the time to figure out the formatting requirements. Can the subject of the article become involved in the editing and finalizing of the article if I were to send her a link and if she is so inclined? I thought this would be easier than it is. Thanks for your help. Susan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swarshow (talk • contribs) 20:14, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

@Swarshow: The draft is here: Draft:Terry_Marks-Tarlow,_Ph._D.. Please read WP:YFA for guidance on how to create an article. RudolfRed (talk) 20:18, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

As I said, I do not have time to finalize the article. Can the subject of the article be involved in creating the formatting? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swarshow (talk • contribs) 20:24, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Too late! Draft deleted. David notMD (talk) 00:28, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
@Swarshow: In answer to your question, they can but it doesn't mean that they should. We highly discourage anyone from getting involved in the creation or updating of an article about themselves, do to the obvious conflict of interest (COI) that it poses.
If you have a personal or professional relationship with Terry_Marks-Tarlow, then you also have a COI. While it's not prohibited outright, COI editing is problematic for a number of reasons (hard to maintain the required neutral point of view, using unpublished original research, etc.). That's why we discourage it... if he is truly notable, then someone who is not connected with him will eventually write about him. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:31, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Vandalism Report

Hi. I have found an instance of obvious vandalism by an IP address. The page is Nina Kosterina. I am reporting it here because I am new and I haven't figured out the vandalism reporting yet. Any advice would be appreciated. TheDoDahMan (talk) 14:41, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

TheDoDahMan, The best way to deal with It is to hit the little "undo" button next to the offending edit on the history of said page. WelpThatWorked (talk) 15:11, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
It seems to have been dealt with. If you want to read more about responding to vandalism, take a look at WP:VANDALISM. If you see an edit that you are certain could not have been made in good faith, you are welcome to simply revert it - if in any doubt, leave an edit summary explaining what you think is wrong with it. Escalating warning notices are usually put on vandals' talk pages, to inform them that they risk having their account/IP blocked, and to let other patrollers know easily that they are dealing with a 'repeat offender'. If a user continues vadalising repeatedly dispite warnings, you can report them to WP:AIV. Note - warning and reporting are much easier if you use WP:Twinkle. Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 15:13, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Hi. Yes it was fixed very quickly. I tried to undo it, but I got an error message saying there was an edit conflict or something. That was why I posted this message. How do I find a talk page for an IP user, I don't think they have one?TheDoDahMan (talk) 15:46, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
TheDoDahMan Greetings. Click "talk" next to the IP address on the the "history page" of the article. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:53, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. I will do that in future as required.TheDoDahMan (talk) 15:58, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

To whom it may concern...

My name is Maad Maad Al-Gabban (a.k.a Maudi Algabban) and I would like to express my sincere apology for the previous message I have sent. Due to my condition which is autism, I have the gendency to express myself in a socially unacceptable manner. Therefore, I ask you and I beg you to ignore my previous message and accept my apology. And I assure you that this will not happen again.

Sincerely yours, Maad Maad Al-Gabban (a.k.a Maudi Algabban) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maad Maad Al-Gabban (talk • contribs) 2019-05-23T16:26:51 (UTC)

Hello, Maad Maad Al-Gabban, and welcome to the Teahouse. Thank you for your apology: I can't find any previous message from you, so I don't know what you are apologising for. Don't worry about making mistakes: As long as you observe principles for interaction such as CIVIL and Assume good faith, I don't think anybody will hold it against you.
By the way, on discussion pages like this (not on articles!) please sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~), and the software will insert your account name, with the time, and links to your user and talk pages (I have added the signature to your posting above). --ColinFine (talk) 16:01, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Camille Paglia's "Feminist" label being policed by biased Activist. Please intervene.

Camille Paglia's "Feminist" label being policed by biased Activist, FreeKnowledgeCreator, who actively reverts this label every time it is added to her page. The editor has disingenuously claimed that the label is unnecessary, as the term 'social critic' suffices. This logic however does not apply to any number of well-known feminists. The problem here is that FreeKnowledgeCreator has a political motive. Many so-called 'left-wing' feminists who oppose Paglia's views aim to undermine and belittle her position by refusing to acknowledge her as a feminist. Denying Paglia is a feminist is ridiculuous - like saying George Clooney is not an actor. The burden of evidence must be on this biased activist to prove Paglia is not a feminist. How does Wikipedia police this kind of contentious vandalism? It appears that FreeKnowledgeCreator has no life outside of biased editing in an effort to have Wikipedia reflect his or her worldview. This is a clear case of political interference by a rogue editor and should be monitored by someone with the power to do something about it. Mangonorth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mangonorth (talk • contribs) 05:21, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Mangonorth appears to believe that he can "win" an editing dispute with me by making insults and accusations in response to his edits being reverted, as witness his comments above ("FreeKnowledgeCreator has no life outside of biased editing"). If this user wants to go on insulting me, making outright personal attacks, and labeling edits he disagrees with "vandalism", he is asking for a block on WP:NPA grounds. There's not much else to be said, really. Mangonorth, please consider that you are not going to magically get an editing dispute resolved in your favor by saying mean things about someone you disagree with; it doesn't work that way here. Wikipedia is not meant to be a playground. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 05:40, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
As an uninvolved editor, with no opinion on the content, I offer a couple of suggestions. First, this conversation belongs on the Talk page of that article, not at the TeaHouse. Secondly, your personal opinions should not have any bearing - instead, the discussion should be based on what the best independent sources have to say. Thirdly, keep it civil - personal insults and threats do not help to reach a consensus. Focus on the issue, which is NOT whether she is actually a feminist, it is to summarize what the sources say about that matter.--Gronk Oz (talk) 07:41, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Also as a courtesy you should have posted a link to the Article. If you wanted people to read this, and then go there, you should have had the presence of mind to include a convenient link. I defer to anyone else as to whether or not this post is appropriate. It's probably not. Also, I read this, went there, and threw in my 2 cents for what it was worth. I see problems all the way around, from the dysfunction of the Editors involved and it's direct reflection on a poorly written Article, particularly the "Feminist" section. Suggest the Editors find some way to step back from the Article and look at it, not from their perspectives, but from Wikipedia's perspective, as well as the potentially interested Reader. You folks seem to think it's all about "you, you, you" (aka "Marsha, Marsha, Marsha"). It's not. It's someone else's encyclopedia, and someone else is doing the reading. Those are the two things you should all keep in mind, instead of the very small and relatively unimportant universe of a group of dysfunctional Editors. It's a "big pond", and you are all "small fish". A healthy sense of humility would go a long way, IMO.Tym Whittier (talk) 16:16, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Disappearing user subpage

Hi, I wrote a draft article on user:TheDoDahMan/draft and submitted it for review. For some reason the page is gone. Help! TheDoDahMan (talk) 16:08, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Resolved.TheDoDahMan (talk) 17:09, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Two name merged on Wikipedia page singer Rajeshwari Datta and singer Rajeshwari Dutta

Rajeshwari Datta is an actress https://www.imdb.com/name/nm9673055/bio?mode=desktop&ref_=m_ft_dsk

1. This Rajeshwari Datta has worked in serials Tujhse Hai Raabta for Zee tv http://www.tellychakkar.com/tv/tv-news/rajeshwari-datta-opens-her-role-tujhse-hai-raabta-181202

2. Jamai raja tv series season I & II

https://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/jamai-raja/cast/681007/

Rajeshwari Datta actress name is there in cast of the serial 

  but photo has been used of Actress Rajeshwari Datta in wikipedia page of singer Rajeshwari Datta. Please separate both actress and singer. Actress Rajeshwari Datta and Singer Rajeshwari Datta

Actress Rajeshwari Datta photo has been used wrongly on singer Rajeshwari Datta wikipedia page link: https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&ei=z8fmXNn0Dvzcz7sPmvSTsAM&q=Rajeshwari+Datta+&oq=Rajeshwari+Datta+&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.3..35i39l3j0i22i30j0i22i10i30l2.243464.244106..245130...0.0..0.422.1347.0j2j1j1j1....1..0....1.rIF25Zaj7_0


Please separate both the person with their profession.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎ Rajeshwaridattaactor (talk • contribs) 2019-05-23T17:26:03 (UTC)

Hello, Rajeshwaridattaactor. Wikipedia has only an article on the singer Rajeshwari Datta. Somebody tried, inappropriately, to hijack the article and make it about the actor, but that is not the way to do it: if Rajeshwari Datta the actor meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, then we can have an article on her, which will be separate from the article on the singer. (If you are Rajeshwari Datta, as your username implies, then you should not create this article, as autobiography is strongly discouraged).
The Wikipedia article Rajeshwari Datta does not have a photograph, and never has had, as far as I can tell. Google takes its information from various sources, including Wikipedia; but when Google mistakenly merges information about different people, that is Google's problem, and Wikipedia cannot do anything about it. (Standard message follows:)

Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. The same feedback facility is also provided on Bing and some other search engines.. --ColinFine (talk) 18:57, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

How can I delete a submission

How can I delete a submission for good. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emma.Sydney.aus (talk • contribs)

The short answer is that you, personally, cannot delete anything. Only administrators can delete pages. In order to get a particualr page deleted you need to have a good reason why it should be deleted, and there are several processes for making your case. The most obviously unfit articles will qualify for speedy deletion, uncontroversial deletions unlikely to be objected to can be handled through proposed deletion (although if anyone at all does object they can simply decline the nomination) and for everything else you will need to use the articles for deletion process which involves a one-week discussion of the article in question. It can be a bit daunting if you have never done it before but any experienced user can help you through it and/or you can use WP:TWINKLE to facilitate any of the above processes. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:22, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Emma.Sydney.aus, if you want to delete this AfC submission, you can add {{db-u1}} to it, and an administrator should delete it shortly. Eman235/talk 21:13, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Edited draft ready for submission

I appreciate Teahouse for being responsive and friendly. I have an article ready for submission, I have effected some recommendations made hwre, please help me check the final copy before I submit for approval. Thanks. Here is my sandbox User:Ohanwe Emmanuel .I./sandbox Ohanwe Emmanuel .I. (talk) 20:56, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

@Ohanwe Emmanuel .I.: It doesn't help to keep asking the same questions in different places. Please ask and reply at Wikipedia:Teahouse#My_article_is_ready_for_submission. We are all volunteers here, and it helps to be patient. Nick Moyes (talk) 21:38, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Sorry if I duplicated my questions, I just finished effecting the corrections you made to my work and I decided to open a new thread to ask for further review. I would go back to the previous thread and continue the question. Thanks @Nick Moyes.

Ohanwe Emmanuel .I. (talk) 22:40, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

hsk

Sheikh Abdul Muhammad Haseeb Shafiq Khan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haseebskhan24 (talk • contribs) 18:00, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Haseebskhan24, and welcome to the Teahouse. What is your question about editing Wikipedia? --ColinFine (talk) 18:58, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
@Haseebskhan24: The teahouse is for asking questions about Wikipedia from experienced editors, not really for experimenting. If you would like to experiment, please feel free to edit in the sandbox, this isn't the place to do so.Eclipsefc (talk) 23:59, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Trying to Add a picture to a Page

I am trying to add a picture to an athletes page. I have posted a picture that keeps getting deleted. I know the athlete and he has been sending me photos he wants published on his wiki page. he owns the copyright on the pictures and I am just posting it for them. How can I post the picture? I keep getting user accounts flagging the picture and then the picture gets deleted. I am just doing this for the athlete and would like to get it done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soccerfiend11 (talk • contribs) 18:13, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Soccerfiend11 . If you are not the copyright holder, then you cannot upload the photos. It isn't allowed. The most straightforward solution is for the copyright holder to upload the photos. That person is the only one who has the legal ability to release the rights under an acceptable Creative Commons license. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 18:21, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Hi Soccerfiend11. In addition to what Cullen328 posted above, I'm just going to point out that Wikimedia Commons (or Commons for short) and Wikipedia are technically separate project. They both are part of the same Wikimedia Foundation family so to speak, but they each have their own respective policies and guidelines. Common bascially handles file uploads and is more concerned with how content uploaded to it is licensed than how it is going to be used in Wikipedia articles. Commons is also a global project which act as a file (i.e. image) repository for the various other members of the Wikimedia Foundation family; so, files uploaded to Commons need to be able to be used on any of these other Wikipedia project pages without any concern about violating someone else's copyright. For this reason, Commons is pretty strict when it comes to the types of files it will accept as explained in c:Commons:Licensing and pretty much only will accept files which either (1) been clearly released under a free license or (2) are clearly within the public domain. Since copyright law, etc. can vary from country to country (sometimes even quite a bit), Commons will often require some sort of formal verification by Wikimedia OTRS whenever there are concerns about a file's licensing. Moreover, Commons will also delete files per its precautionary principle whenever there are serious concerns about a file's licensing. So, if you're the copyright holder of the file(s) you uploaded, please take a look at c:COM:OTRS#Licensing images: when do I contact OTRS?; if, on the other hand, you're not, please look at c:COM:OTRS#If you are NOT the copyright holder. Just for general reference, most content is going to be assumed to be protected by copyright unless it can be clearly demonstrated not to be; furthermore, the copyright holder is generally considered to be the creator of the work, not the subject of the work or the possesser of the work (e.g. the photographer who takes a photo, not the subject of the photo or a person who has the photo in their possession). In most cases, if you7re not the person who actually created the work, you are not going to be considered the own the copyright over the work.
Finally, if the article you wanted to add the photo is Brendan Hines-Ike and you're a friend of his, then you're most likely going to be considered to have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest with respect to anything written about him anywhere on Wikipedia. Wikipedia doesn't expressly prohibit conflict-of-interest editing, but it does highly discourage it and expect editors with a conflict of interest to follow certain guidelines. I've added a template to your user talk page which contains links to various Wikipedia pages related to conflict of interest, but you might also want to look at Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide, Wikipedia:Ownership of content, and even perhaps Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing for additional reference. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:36, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
Resolved

Do quotes on portals require a citation?

Hello there, Teahouse. I'm by no means a new editor, as I've been active on this site for over three years now, but I recently came across a conundrum for which I found no proper forum to address it (if I'm mistaken, please redirect me): Do quotations on WP:Portals require a citation?

The Portal:Democratic Republic of the Congo has a "Selected quote" section, which currently cycles through three quotes, all of which are said to have come from people who have been long dead (one of them is a re-appropriated folk saying). Though these quotes are "attributed" to people, there is no citation for any of them to confirm this. WP:Portal#Portals and the core content policies says "Portals are subject to the Wikipedia's five pillars and must comply with Wikipedia's core content policies (neutral point of view, no original research, verifiability, etc.)." MOS:QUOTE says "The reader must be able to determine the source of any quotation, at the very least via a footnote." So per requirements of verifiability, must quotes be cited to a reliable source? (For a BLP question this seems to be an obvious yes, but that is not the case here—yet.) If so, how do we embed such citations in a portal(as formal ref tags probably won't mesh with the formatting very well)?

Please ping me in your response. Thank you for your help. -Indy beetle (talk) 19:50, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

The page that generates that list predates Siegenthaler; what you're looking at is a relic of Early Wikipedia, which has survived because portals serve no useful purpose so nobody's ever noticed the issue before. (This portal averages a mighty 20 views per day.) My inclination would be to remove the "quote" section altogether since I can't imagine any reader ever finding it useful; User:BrownHairedGirl might have thoughts. ‑ Iridescent 19:56, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Indy beetle, Here is how I solved it for a quote that I thought was just terrible, but that survived an AfD. Vexations (talk) 20:08, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
(ec)Indy beetle, I agree with Iridescent: this is a relic of early Wikipedia, preserved in the neglected portal pages. Portals serve no useful purpose, and most of them have been rotting for years, which is why I and others have been busy running the worst of them through MFD for the last two-and-a-half months.
Nearly all the pre-2018 portals are built using subpages, some times many hundreds of subpages per portal, and they mostly consist of very old unsourced content-forks. Some of those I have found have been utter nonsense, such as this hijack[3] of portal on a Chinese city which went uncorrected for two years, presumably because nobody reads the portals (they have a median daily pageview rate of only 13, and in most cases the head article receives between 100 and 2000 times more views.
The quotes sections which I have seen have all been unreferenced. Any such material should simply be removed. The simplest way to do this is simply to blank the quotes page, noting something like "removed unsourced" ... but it would be best to edit the main portal page, and remove the transclusion of the quotes page. I will do that now. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs)
@Iridescent:@Vexations:@BrownHairedGirl: Thank you for the advice, and it does seem indeed to be the best course of action to remove the unsourced quotes. The observation about it predating the Siegenthaler incident makes a good point. I'm personally quite apathetic to the fate of Portals on Wikipedia, and if anything I think they can be a distraction from our generation of proper article content. I was actually going to consider the Congo portal for deletion, but saw that it had those "mighty" page view stats (which quite frankly is much better than most DRC content) so I thought I might as well clean it up to a standard where it is not an outright embarrassment or—in this instance—a probable policy violation. -Indy beetle (talk) 20:39, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
@Indy beetle: Glad that helped, but what "mighty" stats? (unless your are being ironic).
In Jan–Feb 2019, the portal got 20 pageviews per day, but the head article got 6,669 per day. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:49, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
@BrownHairedGirl: Yes, I'm absolutely using verbal irony to point out that when compared to other Congo articles, 20 views per day isn't all that bad. Jean Bolikango, an important Congolese nationalist (and a FA) gets 11 per day; Albert Kalonji, a tribal and secessionist leader of the 1960s, gets 15; Marcel Lihau, a jurist who had his hand in writing two constitutions for the country, served as the Supreme Court's first president, and co-founded an important political party (and once again a FA) gets a mere 9; Abeti Masikini, an important female singer, fetches 6; Antoine-Roger Bolamba, one of the country's first writers, a government official, and an influential journalist, also gets 6; Constitution of the Democratic Republic of the Congo garners 29; Moambe chicken, supposedly the country's oft-dubbed "national dish", gets 22. Welcome to Africa topics. -Indy beetle (talk) 21:18, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
@Indy beetle To be fair, DRC is a nation which almost entirely avoided both British colonialism and American neocolonialism and probably has one of the lowest proportions of English speakers of anywhere in the world, so I wouldn't expect most articles to generate much interest other than those on people like Christian Benteke who have become famous in English-speaking nations. For a comparably-sized but English-speaking African nation like Nigeria, the stats are much healthier: Chinua Achebe (probably Nigeria's most popular author) consistently gets around 1000 views per day, Constitution of Nigeria averages 630 views per day, popular singer Don Jazzy hovers around the 200 mark, Jollof rice around 500, and even the revolting Moin moin gets about 80-90 views per day. I imagine if you pop over to French Wikipedia the numbers will be roughly reversed. ‑ Iridescent 21:43, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
@Indy beetle: The view expressed above that Portals serve no useful purpose are those of individuals, not a collective view of the Wikipedia community. Portals can (or should) provide users with an alternative and attractive 'shop window-style' route into broad topic area. It is a sad fact that they have been rather overlooked and definitely under-promoted, and that those who would like to see them deleted because of low page views would never apply the same deletion logic to articles, many of which get fewer views per day than do the related Portals. Your desire to improve the DRC Portal is welcomed and is to be applauded. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:54, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Definition Template

Is there in definition template? Which will show definition of the word? (Not 'Need definition'). CptViraj (Talk)

There is no template to do so, but you can always link the term to the appropriate article. WelpThatWorked (talk) 15:13, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
@WelpThatWorked: Gotcha! - CptViraj (Talk) 01:05, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Is there some sort of tutorial video?

Is there some sort of tutorial video?— Preceding unsigned comment added by AliSalmanone (talk • contribs) 00:49, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi AliSalmanone. There is the Wikipedia:Adventure, which is one way to become more familiar with how Wikipedia works. There is also a short video in Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia, but there may be others uploaded to an external site like YouTube which explain how Wikipedia works. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:39, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Talk Achieve

How can i enable automatic achieve system on my talk page? - CptViraj (Talk) 02:24, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi CptViraj. Do you mean "archive" instead of "achieve"? You can find out a bit about how to archive a talk page at Help:Archiving a talk page. There are different ways to archive pages and some can be quick tricky to set up; so, sometimes, a good thing to do is to look around and how some others have set up archiving for their user talk pages for ideas. When you find something you particularly like, you can post a message of that user's talk page and ask them how they set it up. They might even be willing to set it up for you. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:13, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Potentially flawed UI design is causing me to leave blank edit summaries on accident from time to time

I'm not sure if this belongs here or at the village pump or somewhere else, but sometimes when I edit articles, I like to preview my edits and I tend to do that before I put down the summary, but sometimes I keep finding myself clicking the publish button instead of either of the return buttons while looking at the preview. Sometimes this is fine, but in certain situations that can leave me feeling awkward. For example, my most recent blank-summary edit on a 4-year old redirect I wanted deleted (Top kek to LOL) was supposed to quote the RfD page where it says redirects that are not established terms and are unlikely to be useful, and therefore may be nominated for deletion, perhaps under deletion reason #3 and that RfD is not the place to resolve most editorial disputes, but then I accidentally clicked on the Publish button because it stands out against both of the Return buttons (and the UI has both buttons pushed far away into other corners when I look at the preview), so I quickly undid it out of cautious courtesy. -- MrHumanPersonGuy (talk) 01:49, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello MrHumanPersonGuy - I used to have the same problem until some kind person pointed out that there is an option I could activate which prevents me from saving my changes until I fill in the edit summary. You can find it under Preferences > Editing > Editor > Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary.--Gronk Oz (talk) 03:09, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. -- MrHumanPersonGuy (talk) 09:54, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Video Game Related Article

Hello Wikipedians, I have started an article for Call of Duty: Mobile which is in beta now but officially released, here is the article Call of Duty: Mobile it's a stub now, Please give your thoughts or have a look at the article, and also if you have more information on the subject please contribute I love that game <3 --Siddharth 🤙🏻 Talk To Me!! 10:39, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, trying to correct some links written as [[:fr:Word]] into proper code through pages on other WP {{ill|Word|fr}}. However, when the word doesn't match the target (to make it shorter or simpler), how should it be written? Such as: {{ill|target link=Cat cabal|text written on the article=Best cabal ever|fr}}? Not sure it's clear... Regards, --Bédévore [knock knock] 22:17, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Bédévore. Just want to add that sometimes when you use a template like {{ill}} you may have to make sure the target link is not to a WP:DAB page, or doesn't not link to another Wikipedia article with the same name. In such cases, you may find using the paramteter |lt= to WP:PIPE the target link helpful. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:38, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, Marchjuly however I'm sorry, I didn't understand how to use it on the code... -- Bédévore [knock knock] 11:10, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

My article is ready for submission

Hello Teahouse residents!

Please I would like experienced wiki editors to review my work in my sandbox and make corrections were necessary, do well to inform me of your corrections in my talk page so I can take note. I would appreciate my work to be accepted.

Thank yo guys!

Ohanwe Emmanuel .I. (talk) 12:36, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

His sandbox: User:Ohanwe Emmanuel .I./sandbox David notMD (talk) 13:37, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
@CptViraj: Erm, no. Did you not check for copyright violations? This draft is stuffed full of copy/pasted content from non-free sources which breaches our guidelines. It is also far too detailed, and reads more like a promotional cv than an encyclopaedia article. It could do with a lead paragraph to summarise who he is and why he's notable. (See this page on notability.) The article should refer to him directly by his name, and not all that HR Eng. stuff which means nothing to me or other readers. We don't need to know if he's happily married - just that he's married. @Ohanwe Emmanuel .I.: If you can cut down the draft by around half its length and rewrite key content in your own words, then your draft might well stand a chance of being accepted. Not a bad effort for a first draft. Nick Moyes (talk) 15:18, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Thank you User:CptViraj

Ohanwe Emmanuel .I. (talk) 18:38, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you Nick Moyes, I would reduce the draft and change my dictions. Pls do you think there's anything wrong with my references?

Ohanwe Emmanuel .I. (talk) 18:38, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

@Ohanwe Emmanuel .I.: You asked on my talk page about which pages you copy/pasted text from. I'm surprised you can't remember, but you might find [@Ohanwe Emmanuel .I.: this tool] useful. Text in pink indicates that which has been copied from other sources. You also asked (below) about sources. I would ask you to investigate the 'Cite' tool which you can find in both of our editing tools and to ensure you complete all the fields it offers you. This is the way to make really good citations - the absolute life-blood of Wikipedia, and by no means an irrelevancy. If you can avoid repeating the same citation, that would be really helpful, too. There's more information on how to use the 'ref name =' function on this page, and I've demonstrated how you can do that that with one of your sources. The real benefit for you is that you don't have to retype all the same content, but just call up a shortcut name every time you need to re-use it. Some of your source links don't help users prove that what you say is correct - e.g. the link to Otis Engineering isn't to a page which actually states he was the founder and chairman. Another suggestion is to remove some of the 'redlinks' such as 'Engineering Practice' and 'Public Utility Regulation' which I doubt will ever be created. You also have a number of links to disambiguation pages such as shell, when I think you mean the oil corporation. You can change your 'Preferences' so that these disambiguation pages how up as orange text which I find very helpful when cleaning up new pages. I hope this feedback is of some help. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:04, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
I think you forgot to include a link to the tool in your post, Nick Moyes. Cordless Larry (talk) 14:36, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello guys! I have done the corrections, can you please help me review it one more time? Thanks for your time teahouse. Ohanwe Emmanuel .I. (talk) 22:59, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

You don't appear to have addressed the points I highlighted, but none would cause the article to fail at Review, per se. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:59, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
I'm really indebted to this response. Firstly, my network delayed my last message you replied and it came after you've made this contribution, I sent it earlier yesterday. I would effect that immediately. I wish all Wikipedia editors are this sincere, patient and tolerating. Thanks once more Nick Moyes.

Ohanwe Emmanuel .I. (talk) 13:58, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Nick Moyes. Thanks once again. I have effected the corrections though I couldn't find the pink colored words. Can you help me review for the last time. Thanks for your always response.

Ohanwe Emmanuel .I. (talk) 14:28, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

@Ohanwe Emmanuel .I.: Oops, so sorry. Here is the link to the copyvio tool. Nick Moyes (talk) 15:17, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Garbled infobox

I noticed that the infobox for the Indian National Congress, which is the largest opposition party in India right now was left garbled by whoever updated it last, but I can’t find any problem in it when seeing the source. Could someone explain what is the problem? --RedBulbBlueBlood9911 (talk) 10:01, 24 May 2019 (UTC) Template:Infobox_Indian_political_party

Welcome to the Teahouse, RedBulbBlueBlood9911. After struggling for ages with a copy of the Infobox markup in my sandbox, I finally spotted that another editor Lesenwriter, had made a good faith edit by adding updated information and inserting a composition bar template, plus a supporting citation. Only by removing this, and replacing it just with a numeral, did the Infobox then display correctly. By reading the documentation at Template:Infobox Indian political party, it eventually became clear this this field can only accept a number, and nothing else. Oddly, the template must be pulling the total number of available seats (and a citation) from somewhere else, but sadly I have no time left today to investigate further. I have made an edit to insert Lesenwriter's updated figure, but declared in my detailed edit summary my uncertainty over my need to remove the citation they not unreasonably thought was OK to add there. I think the place to discuss future problems over the infobox displaying incorrectly and any citations that may be needed to support changes should probably be made on the article's talk page in the first instance and then at Template talk:Infobox political party as per the advice in the template's documentation - especially if this helps future editors from making the same mistake of changing the template's content with the best of intentions, but in a way that the template clearly can't handle. If my edit has made things worse in other ways, feel free to revert it. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 12:22, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the mitigation Nick Moyes. It is made so complicated , you have entered the correct number 52 , however the current member is 542 with the newly elected parliament whereas in the page it is state as 518 which is outdated and i have no idea how to fix it in the template. Please help to correct it Nick Moyes , RedBulbBlueBlood9911. Thanks again !!.. -Lesenwriter (talk) 14:15, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
@Lesenwriter: Sorry - I am unable to assist as, right now, I am setting off to go away for a few days. If you follow the links given above, I think you would be best to discuss it there. Somehow the 545 (or 542?) seats appears to be pre-set somewhere else within the template, and I simply don't have time now to investigate further. I#m very sorry about that. Nick Moyes (talk) 15:22, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello

Hello,

I recently added stuff to my page to make it look a bit better.

Is there any chance that someone could help by adding my contributions to the "contributions" tab I have added, as I don't know how to do it.

Also, could someone fix/edit the barnstar tab aswell please.

Thank you

L1amw90 (talk) 16:24, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello L1amw90 and welcome to the Teahouse. I've added {{special:contributions/L1amw90}} to the contributions section, generating your contributions. This is updated automatically; you can also see your contributions at special:contributions/L1amw90. As for the barnstars page, follow the link to User:L1amw90/Barnstars and press "Publish page" to create the page. Cheers, Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 16:40, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Question

Hi, if you have read my talk page and the description, you may have seen that I am an 8th grade student in Connecticut. You might have also seen that I am fascinated by the study of weather. This leads to my question, how do you add tornadoes on a wikipedia, say the 2011 super outbreak. In this section there is a list of confirmed tornadoes, how do you add a tornado to the list using all of the same colors, for example an EF5 tornado is red and an EF1 tornado is yellow. Thanks :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Julian1088 (talk • contribs) 17:57, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Julian1088, you use Template:Storm colour. Any time you see something in an article and you wonder how they did it, click Edit source and view the wikicode for that item. I pick up most tips and tricks that way. Schazjmd (talk) 18:07, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Schazjmd Thank you :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Julian1088 (talk • contribs) 18:56, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, A page in the English Wikipedia is linking to the wrong page in another Language

Hello, I found that an article in English which under "Languages" links to the wrong page in Portuguese. Yet, I don't see anyhere where I can change the article it links to. The pages in question are: Historical_criticism which links to Alta_Crítica instead of Método_histórico (which is undoubtedly the correct page). Do you know how this can be changed? Does an admin have to do it? As you can see I need some help here! Thank you in advance! User:Apeximius (talk) 15:38, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Apeximus. This is now done through Wikidata. At the bottom of the list of languages you should see "Edit links". If you pick that, it will take you to the Wikidata page, including the list of links to articles in particular Wikipedia. There is a "move" button beside each one. --ColinFine (talk) 16:17, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, Apeximius, I mis-pinged. --ColinFine (talk) 16:33, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
Thank you, ColinFine. I didn't see the link at the bottom as it has low contrast. I was also wrong. The page was properly linked - it just so happens there was a more proper page for the link. Apeximius (talk) 16:39, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
(edit conflict) pt:Método histórico is already linked to Historical method which seems the best match. Articles linked via Wikidata must have the same link both ways and can only be linked with one article in a language so I don't think anything should be changed. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:41, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
You're right, PrimeHunter. Once I saw the page in the current link I realised that it was a better match. Thanks for the heads up! --Apeximius (talk) 19:03, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

My Question was Archived, in 3 days, I got no notice of answers or archiving

My question "Is there an "Official" Dictionary for Wikipedia?" got archived. I've asked questions here before, was always informed there was an answer and got a message when it was archived. This time I got none of that. I've been wondering and waiting for answers and just now learned it was archived. I thought the time period was like 5 days. Did I forget to click a button, or something?Tym Whittier (talk) 03:15, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

There were a couple of replies within four hours of your question. See [4]. The archiving bot seems to have been busier than usual. Dbfirs 08:17, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
@Tym Whittier: Here is a wikilink to the historic version of this page Dbfirs refers above, together with the section location:
Special:PermaLink/898220382#Is There an "Official" Wikipedia Dictionary?
And here's the thread in archives:
Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 956#Is There an "Official" Wikipedia Dictionary?
--CiaPan (talk) 10:04, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks CiaPan. (Practicing my "ping".)Tym Whittier (talk) 17:58, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
@Tym Whittier: It worked pretty well. :) CiaPan (talk) 19:46, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
It does seem that Munninbot's notifications of archival stopped working since May 17. As far as I know, this is a bug. I will try to find time to investigate this weekend, but no promises. TigraanClick here to contact me 11:17, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for all of that. Glad to know I didn't do something wrong and get prematurely archived for that reason. So what do I do now? "Unarchive" the question? Post a duplicate (and waste the answers that were given)? I didn't get notifications for these answers either.Tym Whittier (talk) 16:40, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Do not unarchive the question, but you can post a new thread to ask for clarification, complements etc. if you want. It is normal that you do not get notifications for reply - we Teahouse answerers try to WP:PING new users when replying, but we do not always do it. TigraanClick here to contact me 19:59, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I assumed that it was automatic. Seems to me someone could make a bot that sends auto-notification just based on the 4 tilde signing. Is there a technical obstacle, a problem finding someone to do it, or what?
I also find it odd that the notifications quit working at the same time that the archiving started working faster. Are they the same 'bot?Tym Whittier (talk) 16:41, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
No. The archival process on the Teahouse and on many, many other pages is handled by Lowercase sigmabot III. After it does its thing, Muninnbot comes up, sniffing the Teahouse's page history, and tries to notify every thread initiator of where the archive is stored. I am the maintainer of the latter (Muninnbot), which is a much smaller project than Lowercase sigmabot III by far. I think I fixed the bug, which had nothing to do with the archival process. The next paragraph gives the details of the bug for the interested reader, but you can skip it safely if you do not care.
Muninnbot runs tests of its subroutines before doing the actual run, in order to ensure nothing broke, and stops if any of the tests failed (I think it would not be wise to run unsupervised a bot that writes to user talk pages without such a "dead bot's switch"). One of the subroutines is a check of whether a user is blocked (per WP:DENY, Muninnbot will not post to the talk pages of blocked users); the associated test had a hardcoded IP that was WP:INDEF-blocked, but it just got unblocked, which caused the test to break and all the notification process with it. TigraanClick here to contact me 19:59, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
FYI I did not get notified of this post. Was I supposed to?Tym Whittier (talk) 22:22, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
No, because I did not ping you. Maybe I should have. Here's a ping for you: Tym Whittier. TigraanClick here to contact me 09:42, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for that. This is absolutely my level. I'm still learning this whole "ping" thing. Maybe someday I'll figure out how to make fancy text with colors and everything. Once I tried to do my font in "small". Failed, and then gave up.Tym Whittier (talk) 17:55, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Presidents of the United States

I am writing a book on the veterans of the Civil War who became president and would like to used a lot of the information on Wikipedia on each of the seven presidents plus Cleveland. Fillmore and Tyler.

How do I obtain permission from Wikipedia.

Respectfully, George

Hi, George. You don't need any additional permission, you may reuse the text if you provide attribution. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License. Images may have different licenses, you will need to check the license for any image you are planning to use. RudolfRed (talk) 21:21, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
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