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Follow-up to DisclosureBook

Is book a good source according to wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krutika Samnani (talk • contribs) 08:22, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

@Krutika Samnani: I'm afraid the answer is: maybe. It depends on many factors - many books are good sources but some are not, e.g. self-published books, or books used as sources for articles that are outside the author's expertise. There are some excellent guidelines for determining what is a relaibe source at WP:RS, and if you have a specific question you can ask at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard.--Gronk Oz (talk) 09:11, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Source Of Book

Is it okay if book does not have a digital reference? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krutika Samnani (talk • contribs) 08:27, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

@Krutika Samnani: It does not matter whether the book is available online. It's good if it is online, because readers can find it more easily, but it is not required. As it says at WP:PUBLISHED: "It is convenient, but by no means necessary, for the archived copy to be accessible via the Internet." --Gronk Oz (talk) 09:15, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Need to edit Wikidata

Please see Talk:Swastika § "most cultures of the world". I have reverted an unsupported change to the article, but the edit comment on that change says "m (subst. (Wikidata also changed))", and I don't know how to revert the change in Wikidata. --Thnidu (talk) 01:42, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Thnidu. Click "Wikidata item" under "Tools" in the left pane of the desktop version of the article. If you are on the mobile version then start by clicking "Desktop" at the bottom. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:23, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

A submitted edit was refused.

An edit to an article was submitted but it was refused by CLCStudent. How do I submit the edits which correct factual errors in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.252.179.114 (talk) 09:49, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. This is perfectly normal in Wikipedia: everything is determined by consensus, and nobody has the right to assume that they are more correct than anybody else. If you think the other editor was wrong to revert your changes, then the next step is to open a discussion with them on the article's talk page, according to the procedure in BRD. --ColinFine (talk) 09:56, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Further: There are no previous edits from your IP address, so I can't tell which article you are referring to. I see that CLCStudent has reverted a lot of vandalism today, particularly on Notre-Dame de Paris fire, but on several other articles as well. It may be that your edit looked like vandalism; or that you made it in good faith but didn't provide a reference for information you added. Discuss it with CLCStudent. --ColinFine (talk) 10:02, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

upload images

how to upload images in a infobox — Preceding unsigned comment added by QAITPVTLTD (talk • contribs) 10:53, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi there QAITPVTLTD (talk · contribs)! Please sign your messages using ~~~~ at the end of your messages. According to your userpage, you are blocked due to edits that were promotional in the eyes of an editor. You cannot edit anymore (I think). — BladeRikWr 12:54, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

How do I go back to the 'tradition' Wikipedia page appearance??

Help!!

Let's say, for example, I Google "The Beatles" and I then click on the Wikipedia 'Beatles' page. Most of the time, by far the majority of times -- but not every time, when I open a Wikipedia article the page opens as normal for just a second or so and then immediately jumps to a different page 'look'. By this, I mean the information is still the same, but . . . 1. the page width is much more narrow 2. there is no Table of Contents 3. there are no interactive links to other articles 4. there is no facility for editing (there are no Edit 'buttons' throughout the text as there have always been). It is not that I want to always edit, I just mention this change so as to give another example of how the appearance of Wikipedia has changed, for me.

I really prefer the previous appearance of Wikipedia. I want to have those interactive link, I want to be able to edit if the mood strikes me. I want to have a table of contents. I prefer the wider page format. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.192.65.197 (talk) 14:54, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello and welcome. I'm not entirely certain, but it sounds like you are accessing the mobile/cellphone version of Wikipedia, which I believe lacks the features you state you are looking for. If this is happening on a computer and not a phone, I'm not sure how you can remedy this, but I'm sure others around here do. 331dot (talk) 15:36, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

331dot - 3 and 4 are available on mobile view. IP, what device or computer are you using? CoolSkittle (talk) 15:06, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

If you scroll down to the bottom of the page, there should be a small clickable link that says "Desktop" or "Desktop view". Clicking that should restore the "traditional" Wikipedia view (assuming you've somehow gotten to the mobile view on a desktop computer). I don't know if it's the same for mobile devices, but I believe it is. StaringAtTheStars^✉Talk 15:47, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Help in publishing a page

Hi,

I have just completed a page in my sandbox. its for a tabla artist i came to know personally and want to share details about their musical family lineage.in the process the page im making is for the present generation tabla player. Need help in ensuring it is compliant with wiki policy and the next step to publish it.

Thanks in advance. please feel free to suggest.

regards, Anuj — Preceding unsigned comment added by Otinflewer (talk • contribs) 09:54, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

I have submitted your sandbox for AfC review on your behalf and moved it to Draft space, where an AfC reviewer will accept or decline the draft soon. Note that there is a backlog of submissions, so it could take as long as a few weeks for your submission to be reviewed. CoolSkittle (talk) 15:11, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Created new page - how do I gain approval?

Hi, I created a new page last month but not sure if it's been reviewed. The page is on Ang Cui, a security researcher. Draft:Ang Cui --> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Ang_Cui&oldid=886017979 Any advice on how to get this submission reviewed/approved, or any tips on the page itself? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Randomx2 (talk • contribs) 15:02, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Randomx2. You have not yet submitted Draft:Ang Cui for review. I have added a header that makes it easy for you to do so when you think it is ready. --ColinFine (talk) 15:51, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

What happened?

What happened to a tool called "stub search"? I remembered using it one time. --TheWin RatHere! 16:14, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Helping find a previous version of my article

Hi!

I am looking for a version of an article I was working on, that was deleted by a user. I need to screen shot this version for my class to show a portion of the work I've contributed, does anyone know where I can gain access to the previous version of the article before my contributions were deleted?

Thank you, Lifeisgood20 (talk) 16:47, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

@Lifeisgood20: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm not certain which article you are referring to, but if you go into the Edit history of the article, it logs every change made to that article by date and time; you then just need to find the version that you are looking for in the log. 331dot (talk) 16:53, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict)@Lifeisgood20: The way to go about this is outlined at WP:REFUND, however, you do not appear to have any deleted edits on your account. Did you make an edit that was reverted? If the edit was simply reverted, then click "View history" up by the top right of the article and scroll until you find your edit. If it was in fact deleted out of the history (which does happen occasionally), REFUND is the way to go. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 16:56, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Having Multiple Sandboxes

Is that a thing? To have multiple sandboxes so that I can try to publish a couple articles at the same time? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SlyKiinz (talk • contribs) 17:06, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, SlyKiinz. Yes, multiple sandboxes are fine. Just go to your sandbox, and at the url bar, just add a 2 after sandbox to make it /sandbox2 and then press return. You then just type a few words and press Publish changes (or possibly 'Create page' at that point) and you're sorted. Regards from sunny Spain, Nick Moyes (talk) 17:27, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

How to publish article from Draft state

I've created my first article but it has "Draft" before it. What steps I have to take to publish it correctly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enespi (talk • contribs) 17:37, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

@Enespi: I have tagged your drft as such; this provides a button to submit it for review. Please note, however, that the backlog is very high, and I am not completely convinced your article will pass the test: WP:N could be a useful read. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 17:41, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Citing Error

Need help with fixing a citing error, in visual preview the citations are working/look perfect but when submitted a red error appears on the citation section. It is this article here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:T23_armored_car#cite_note-AFVWW12-1 Could I get some help with this please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JaunWhick01 (talk • contribs) 19:10, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

In the error message the words "help page" are in blue. This is to indicate that they are a wikilink to help on that particular error. In this case, the link goes to Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no text. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:16, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

@JaunWhick01: I fixed it for you. Specifically you called a reference <ref name="AFVWW12" /> which was never defined in the text. See WP:REFB. – Ammarpad (talk) 19:18, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Auto-Confirmation

Hi: I have been waiting five (5) days , with ten edits, and still waiting for auto-confirmation. Any help with why the delay? Thanx! — Preceding unsigned comment added by David S. Soriano (talk • contribs) 03:16, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello David and welcome to the teahouse. This shows that you account was created on April 11. This shows that the only edit you have made is this one. Thus, you do not have enough edits to be autconfirmed at this time. MarnetteD|Talk 04:11, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

@David S. Soriano: be sure that you are logged on when you make edits, so they are included in your count, and will end up giving you auto-confirmed status.--Gronk Oz (talk) 09:04, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Special:CentralAuth/David S. Soriano shows you have more edits at Wikimedia Commons but each wiki has its own logs. You need ten edits at the English Wikipedia, meaning at en.wikipedia.org. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:14, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank You!

Thank you, kindly, to the three (3) members who answered my question about obtaining ten (10) edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by David S. Soriano (talk • contribs) 19:49, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Uploading image

Hello, am I able to upload an image which we have the copyright for. If so, could you possibly help me to do this... Thank you.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cath1085 (talk • contribs) 19:56, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

@Cath1085: You may only upload it if you are willing to release it under a license that allows for reuse for any purpose. See WP:DCP. RudolfRed (talk) 20:20, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Citations and Sources

Hello! I am working on the page on Preservation Metadata (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preservation_metadata) and have a few questions on sources and citations. 1. What style should I write my citations in? 2. Do all sources need to link to a digital resource, or can I list books?

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mlekmoore (talk • contribs)

You should keep the style that is already used in the article. Yes, you can use books (and other sources) that are not available online. Ruslik_Zero 20:37, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

How do I create a Wikipedia page for a musician/singer-songwriter/producer?

Hello!

How do I create a Wikipedia page for a musician/singer-songwriter/producer? This will be the first Wikipedia page set up for the artist. Is there someone that creates the page? Does it have to be verified?

Best, Aimee --— Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎ Aimeekenik (talk • contribs) 2019-04-16T21:35:21 (UTC)

Hello, Aimee, and welcome to the Teahouse. First, please be aware that writing a new article (which is a much better way to think about what you want to do than "set up a page") is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia, and I always advise new editors to spend a few weeks or months improving existing articles and learning how Wikipedia works before they try it. An article doesn't exactly have to be 'verified', but every single piece of information in it must come from a reliable published source, and most of the content must be based on sources unconnected with the subject. Wikipedia is not interested in what you (or I, or any random person on the Internet) knows, and it has very little interest in what the subject of an article says about themselves: it is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable places (such as major newspapers, or books from reputable publishers). If there aren't such sources, then the subject is not notable (in Wikipedia's special use of the word) and no article will be accepted, however it is written.

I suggest you look at the essay Your first article for more information. Note also, that if the subject is yourself, or somebody you are connected with, it becomes even harder to write an acceptable article, because your conflict of interest is likely to make it hard for you to write in a sufficiently neutral way.

I am sorry if this seems negative; but the fact is that people who come here to promote a subject (which is what "set up a page for" usually implies) tend to have a frustrating time. --ColinFine (talk) 21:09, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Burmeister Ginseng LLC and Wisconsin ginseng wiki

Greetings Gurus of the Teahouse,

The history of American ginseng (Panax quinquefolious) cultivation in Wisconsin is established and I would like to write a wiki about that, and another one about my business. Elsewhere in the country, ginseng is wild-crafted (hunters are lucky to find a couple lbs of this endangered herb in the woods). The Fromm Brothers of WI have a wiki, they were the first to successfully cultivate this tricky-to-grow, sensitive plant. However, they are no longer in the ginseng business. We are. My great-grandfather and grandfather both worked for them. My uncles developed and manufactured much of the custom machinery for cultivation of this plant. My name is Michael Burmeister, a fourth-generation ginseng grower, dealer, exporter and owner of Burmeister Ginseng LLC, the oldest ginseng-growing family in America established in 1909. Our ginseng has been the raw ingredient for Celestial Seasonings (who also have their own wiki) for the last 24 years. Other major American brands also use our ingredient, notably: Rishi Tea, Yogi Teas, Gaia Herbs, Herb Pharm and others over the years. Our signature brand of premium American ginseng products that are available in over 500 stores nationwide are garnering more attention since the Mayo Clinic's recent study that finally established the health benefits of this amazing herb. Bio-chemically, a very interesting plant. The cultivation of the plant is highly specialized and interesting. Ginseng has been identified as one of the most important commodities for balancing America's trade with China. I could go on (I have a book half written)...There's a lot to talk about.

So the question is: Are we 'notable' enough to deserve our own informational wiki (or 2)? Thank you for your consideration.

Ginsengguy (talk) 21:03, 16 April 2019 (UTC)Michael Burmeister

Hello, Michael. Most of my answer to Aimee immediately above applies equally to you. I would add that if Wikipedia comes to have an article about your business it will not be "your wiki", it will not even be your Wikipedia article, it will be Wikipedia's article about your business, and you will be strongly discouraged from editing it directly. --ColinFine (talk) 21:47, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Michael - to add to what Colin wrote above, Wikipedia's notability requirements depend on coverage in reliable sources - this can be books, newspapers or television coverage. It can't be based on what's written on a company's own web site, or merchant sites trying to sell a product. I did a quick search for sourcing for Burmeister Ginseng, and cannot find anything resembling third party coverage or profiles of the company. As such, it will be difficult to write an article that passes the general notability guidelines, seen here. WP:GNG. If there was a source about your family being the oldest family in the Ginseng business, that could be something to add to the Ginseng article, but in a non-promotional way. It would only require one reliable source. Your path of action would then be to put an edit request on the article talk page. Here's info on that: Wikipedia:Edit requests TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 21:57, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you

I thank you all for the kind greeting! I hope to do my best in keeping with integrity and honest work in all my actions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarcosXavier78 (talk • contribs) 04:09, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

My page is not getting approved.

I've been trying to submit a page since December but it keeps getting declined. please inform me as to where i am going wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Usha_Kakade — Preceding unsigned comment added by Usha Kakade (talk • contribs) 06:14, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

@Usha Kakade: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Looking at your edit history, the only page I see that you have ever had declined is your blank Sandbox. Did you perhaps edit while logged out? You have written about yourself on your user page, but have not submitted it for review. I would suggest copying your user page content to your sandbox and submitting that- but if you were to submit it for review it would not be accepted as it is completely unsourced; you will need independent reliable sources that have significant coverage of you. Please read the autobiography policy for more information as well. 331dot (talk) 06:27, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Regaining a lost account

Hello, Teahouse!

A couple of months ago, I used to edit as Puml, though I've unfortunately lost the password that account (as a temporary solution, I use this account instead). I would like to regain the account, but that proves difficult, as I haven't linked it to my email address, and I have no Committed Identity. In other words, I have no way to prove that I am Puml. My userpage states the above, but that isn't proof, and I could theoretically be lying.

I completely understand if I cannot regain my account — I simply hope it's possible.

Sincerely, Poml (talk) 06:40, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Poml Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I regret to say that if you did not provide an email address to it, there is no way to regain access to your old account. You were correct to create a new one and identify it as a successor account to your old one; this is fine as long as your old one continues to have no activity in it. 331dot (talk) 06:51, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Understood. Thank you for the answer. Poml (talk) 07:07, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

New thought

How can I draft a book, I mean write the book and send it to the drafter — Preceding unsigned comment added by EnochLi (talk • contribs) 05:44, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

@EnochLi: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. The Teahouse is for asking questions related to using Wikipedia. We can't help you with things like how to write or publish a book. Or do you mean a Wikipedia article instead? Please clarify. 331dot (talk) 05:55, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

i did write but I mean what should I do with my book?Just put it there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by EnochLi (talk • contribs) 06:00, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Are you saying that you want to post your book to Wikipedia? That is not what Wikipedia is for. If you have additional comment, do not click "new section" to edit, just click "edit" either at the top of this page, or next to the section header. 331dot (talk) 06:07, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Perhaps Wikibooks or Wikiversity would be of interest. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:41, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

User:EnochLi If you mean a book in Wikipedia Book space, that feature is not currently working. Robert McClenon (talk) 09:00, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Unable to lock down editing rights on Godfrey Phillips India Wikipedia page

Hi Concern,

Greetings,

We have been noticing some unwanted and repetitive mischevious editing on our Wikipedia article - Godfrey Phillips India and we would wish to close the EDIT SOURCE option for the general public. we would request you to kindly help us as soon as possible as such incorrect editing is not required and might mislead our audience.

Thanks Godfrey Phillips India Team— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tarun3131 (talk • contribs) 10:22, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Tarun3131 and welcome to the Teahouse. If the article is being regularly vandalised, then an administrator might partially protect it, but you should be aware that it is not your article, and might never read exactly how you would like it. Because you have a WP:Conflict of interest, you should request the changes on the talk page of the article, rather than making them yourselves. Having said all that, if you can point to a reference that confirms the corrections, we will make them for you because we want the article to be accurate. Please also note that user names must represent an individual editor, not a company. Dbfirs 10:49, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

What should I do if a user removes vandalism messages from their talk page?

I came across a user removing many vandalism warnings from their talk page (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:125.99.216.90&curid=60434616&diff=892902204&oldid=892902121&diffmode=source) and I'm not sure what I should do. Should I undo the change? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Merlin04atschool (talk • contribs) 16:18, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

@Merlin04atschool: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Users are permitted to remove almost all content from their user talk pages, including warnings.(one thing that cannot be removed is declined unblock requests while blocked) This is considered an acknowledgement that the warning was read. User talk pages are not meant to be permanent records of warnings; they are stored in the edit history. 331dot (talk) 16:25, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Reverting issue

I have been making changes to the page Ishqbaaaz. Like I have changed the poster of the page.But my changes are reverted continuously by giving illogical statements. Kindly help me in this issue — Preceding unsigned comment added by MridhulaSuresh (talk • contribs)

@MridhulaSuresh: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. The best thing to do if you do not understand why your edits are being removed is to ask those removing them why; you may do so on their user talk page, or on the article talk page. I am not familiar with Indian television so it isn't clear to me why. 331dot (talk) 16:29, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

my contributions being deleted on a repeated basis

On several occassions, I have written additions to a certain article on blood irradiation therapy. I have supported the additions with citations, from sources, including Universities. I have complied with the citation policy. It is unclear to me whether there is simply a predisposition on the part of staff or simply an arbitrariness; however, suffice it to say that I am taken aback by the cavalier attitude being demonstrated toward simple facts. I am a new contributor, but unless I can get some explanation of this, I will be retiring from this very quickly. Until I can get straight answers, I wont contribute toward another article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tutu0819 (talk • contribs) 14:39, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

@Tutu0819: Have you tried directly asking the person who removed it? They may have reasons and be willing to discuss it with you. You are unlikely to find the person by posting here, but you can find them by clicking the "History" tab of the article in question, and then asking on their user talk pages. Another good route is to post on the article talk page (click the "talk" link when viewing the article) and ask there why your additions are removed. People should be willing to explain and discuss. --Jayron 32 14:51, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Tutu0819, The person to ask is Þjarkur. Their edit summary says they removed your additions because your sources are primary. ~ GB fan 14:58, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Tutu0819, I've written twice to you on your talk page about what exactly the problem was. We try not to cite primary sources when it comes to medical content because it can often give a misleading view of efficacy. We also try to summarize what is known rather than talking about specific studies. I'm of course willing to help you with the article, I'm going to see if I find some review articles about the topic. – Þjarkur (talk) 15:50, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Can someone please have a critical look at the article discussed (Blood irradiation therapy) (especially this diff). The whole History paragraph is unsourced and starts with a lie: Emmett Knott is not listed for Noble Prize. Maybe it is not by chance when this edit was made... -- Tox (talk) 16:39, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Article protection questions

Hi all,

I am a relatively new Wikipedian and was wondering about article protections. I understand the protections (None, (Auto)Confirmed, Extended Confirmed, Sysop) but I had a few questions.

1. If I create an article, who can set protections? 2. If the answer to no. 1 is NOT only me, does this mean that I will be unable to edit it even if I created it? 3. Would an appeal to be promoted to EC because I edit primarily on YouTube(rs) most likely be accepted or rejected? (The YouTube area has a lot of protections and in order to properly work I would need higher permissions.)

Thanks in advance!

Muffington (talk) 16:47, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

@Muffington: Most Wikipedia articles have no protection at all, and can be edited by anyone. Articles can only be protected by an administrator, and that is only done if there is a high level of recurring vandalism or disruption. Go ahead and create your articles, and don't worry about protecting it. If the article becomes a vandalism target, then you can request protection at WP:RFPP. RudolfRed (talk) 17:22, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Meaning of "esp." signifying beginning of partnership

I believe I asked this a couple of days ago, but I haven't received notification of a reply and so perhaps I didn't, or perhaps nobody picked up on my question. I was wondering for which word "esp." was an abbreviation in e.g. "Partner(s) Sarah Harrison (esp. 2009; sep. 2012)" in the current Julian Assange infobox. I can see what it means, but I don't know what the word is. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roy McCoy (talk • contribs) 10:01, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

If you ask a question you need to keep checking back. See /Questions/Archive_938#Meaning_of_"esp.". Martin of Sheffield (talk) 10:15, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

@Roy McCoy: I replied to this already, but someone deleted my response. It stands for espoused in the Julian Assange infobox, a clunky way of saying married. Please sign your posts with four tildes ~~~~ so we know who you are. I saw your comment on my talk page. If they aren't married, it shouldn't say esp. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 22:09, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

@Timtempleton: FYI, no one deleted your response, it was archived. Often posts are only visible for a couple of days. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 10:51, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

@Martin of Sheffield: Odd - I wonder why this question was posted again. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 15:17, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

@Timtempleton: Simply because the OP didn't look back for an answer before the question (and your answer to it) were archived (even though you did ping him when you replied). --David Biddulph (talk) 17:59, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

@David Biddulph: - thanks - makes sense. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 18:22, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

LOST AND CONFUSED.

Can't control my own phone get Locked out my passwords recovery emails and personal information changed over and over. Can't stop and really mad and confused — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:a000:cb80:7d00:914e:e5c4:117e:5ff6 (talk • contribs) 16:39, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. The Teahouse is a place to ask questions about using and editing Wikipedia. Can I ask if the problems you're having relate to logging into Wikipedia? We might be able to help with that, but if the issue is logging into your phone, that's not something we can help with (although the folks over at Wikipedia:Reference desk might be able to offer advice). Cordless Larry (talk) 19:23, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Article without any sources; what to do?

Here is an article about an Iranian politician without any sources. It is important to know that its Persian counterpart is properly sourced. The article looks not good enough. I want to bring it to the attention of admins and ask for its improvement or removal if it isn't eventually improved. Is that the right thing to do? If so, how can I do that? Thanks! Alireza1357 (talk) 18:25, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Welcome @Alireza1357: I feel good when I see someone trying to fix things that are wrong with English Wikipedia. Yes, you should ask for help, but no, the Admins have nothing to do with it. Since you don't know who can help, which is the usual situation, the best place to ask a question about any article is the article's own Talk Page at Talk:Mohsen Safaei Farahani. There is also Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Iran where some may be able to help. Jim.henderson (talk) 18:46, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Hey, @Jim.henderson: Sounds good! I'm going to raise the issue on the talk page and see who emerges (some people must be watching since this belongs to a politician). If not, I'm going to raise it on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Iran. But just out of curiosity, let's suppose no one responds and I deem the page unsustainable and stock for removal. Am I allowed to do that myself? What is the process in such a case? Thanks! Alireza1357 (talk) 19:18, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

@Alireza1357: I responded on the talk page. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 19:49, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Alireza1357, I'll respond here. If,as you say the article on this person in Persian Wikipedia is properly sourced, then nominating it for deletion here would never be proper. It isn't the article that is judged in the deletion processes, it is the subject. So if the article in Perdian Wikipedia is well sourced, then inarguably the subject is notable. John from Idegon (talk) 20:53, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Could I Merge Two 'Suggested Merge' Articles, Despite Me Not Requesting to Merge Them?

Ahoy! List of Newspeak words has had a 'suggested merge' with Newspeak since November of 2018. It's gotten three supports to one oppose. Should I go ahead and merge the articles, or should I contact the one who initially suggested the merge? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheTeaDrinker (talk • contribs) 13:10, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

@TheTeaDrinker: You started it, now finish it. The list should be a redirect without navbox, the navbox template shouldn't have an entry for the redirected list, and the discussion should get a {{resolved|by ~~~~}}. –84.46.53.155 (talk) 01:42, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Please help approve this article

Hi, In November 2018, I requested an editor of Wikipedia to submit an article about the career of Dylan Tauber, a well known electronic musician and cyberartist. No payment was offered for this request. For some reason the article is flagged as "This article may have been created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use. It may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's content policies. (November 2018)" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dylan_Tauber#cite_note-2 If anyone can help get this article approved I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you DolphinPhoto12 (talk) 10:46, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi DolphinPhoto12. The {{Undisclosed paid}} template was added to the page by GSS with this edit. The edit summary left said this was done "based on evidence". I have no idea what that evidence is, but you can post a message at User talk:GSS asking for clarifiction or you can ask for ask for help at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard. It's possible that the tempate was based on a misunderstanding, but it's also possible that you or the other editor you asked to submit the article might be misunderstanding Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide or Wikipedia:Paid contribution disclosure.

Whether the draft is ultimately approved is going to depend on whether Tauber is deemed Wikipedia notable enough per Wikipedia:Notability (people) or Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Criteria for musicians and ensembles. All the clean up and editing anyone does to the draft will not make any difference if it can't be esablished Tauber is Wikipedia notable for an article to be written about him; sometimes, it's just a case of WP:TOOSOON. Anyway, if you'd like some more specific feedback on the draft, try asking at WT:MUSICIAN. Perhaps someone in that WikiProject can better explain in more detail on what it's lacking and how to further improve it. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:46, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

How to add a cite template?

Hello, I have edited a few articles over some years in my areas of expertise and would like to see a template for citing national and international standards, such as ISO, IEC, ANSI etc. Unfortunately most are behind a paywall but nearly all represent good consensus of those interested and materially affected by the language of the standard. Has this been hashed out before? Altaphon (talk) 05:04, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Actually this is not the case, e.g., Standardization of Office Open XML, and it would be better to quote roughly equivalent free standards (ECMA, RFCs, TUS, etc.), but of course you can use {{cite web|subscription=yes}} for non-free sources. –84.46.53.155 (talk) 02:02, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Intellectual property rights explanation of Wikipedia

Did the Wikipedia says "non-free content zone" because I've proven to be editing in the Wikipedia, but I am not sure about this, it doesn't mean necessary? could also strengthens copyright rules in this Wikimedia Foundation, which if I convinced that non-free content, including these foreign works under the URAA, because it restores copyrighted works from the public domain in the United States, so what do I use, or how? Acajenka (talk) 00:45, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Acajenka. Primarily, all content in Wikipedia needs to be freely-licensed or in the public domain in the United States. You can read about the acceptable exceptions here: Wikipedia:Non-free content. Our sister project Wikimedia Commons, which hosts most of our images, has more stringent criteria: content there needs to be free in both the source country and in the United States, and that's where those URAA rules sometimes become a problem. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 02:05, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Ronnie mwebaze, your editing suggestions are on the way

How can I find updated information or any site with latest information about Naava Grey? Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronnie mwebaze (talk • contribs) 18:34, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Ronnie mwebaze. The Teahouse is generally a place to ask about Wikipedia editing or other things related to Wikipedia; it's not really a good place to just ask for general information about a particular person, place or thing. Have you tried googling "Naava Grey"? -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:08, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Please confirm that you will accept drafted article from me about my notable client, rather than from him, after I disclose COI on my user page

Hi. I wrote in two weeks ago about drafting and submitting an article covering a notable client of mine, about/for whom I have written for many years. In response, you referred me to COI guidelines and gave me a link where I should create the article. My question today stems from my client's need for reassurance regarding your acceptance of the article once I have drafted it: Will you accept the article submission from me, as the author, rather than from him, as the subject of the article, after I disclose COI on my user page? Thank you so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlueHeron310 (talk • contribs) 20:36, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Hey BlueHeron310. Whether a draft is accepted depends on whether it meets Wikipedia's standards for things like neutrality and sourcing, especially as it pertains to biographies of living persons. We cannot guarantee prior to reviewing the draft that it meets these standards. GMG ^talk 20:38, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

@BlueHeron310: (ec) Your above comment is (so far) your only edit from your account, so it is hard to refer to your prior question. However, no one here can promise that something we haven't seen will be accepted. It doesn't matter who submits it in terms of the odds of it being accepted(though if your client submit it they should be clear that it is about themselves) It would be best if you disclosed your COI and paid status before you attempt to create and submit a draft; compliance with the paid editing policy is a Wikipedia Terms of Use requirement. 331dot (talk) 20:41, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Actually, I should have included the words "for review" and "possible acceptance"--would you accept it from me, versus from the subject, for review and possible acceptance. I am new to Wikipedia and will attempt to comply with your instructions. Thank you. BlueHeron310 (talk) 20:59, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Ideally, neither you, or the subject should write an article on him or her. But, as others have said, what you submit will be judged on its own merit. A caveat to that however: Due simply to human nature, an article submitted by its subject or by a WP:PAID editor on the subject's behalf, will most likely be looked at much more closely for compliance with WP:NPOV and WP:NOTPROMO, two pillar policies. However, as the others have told you, your questions cannot be answered theoretically. We must have a real draft to look at in order to answer you. John from Idegon (talk) 21:30, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

My understanding is that you should declare a paid relationship on your user page now, and if the article you submit is accepted, on the Talk page of the article. On your User page, naming the person. Whatever the profession of the person you are writing about, look to existing articles as examples. David notMD (talk) 02:28, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Q: Wiki.media

Hi:

I have a question about uploading to 'wiki.media': I am an artist and upload selected works (mine) which I don't mind placing in the public domain.

Do interested parties have to let me know that they are using my work- and in what type of genre? Thanx, Dave Soriano — Preceding unsigned comment added by David S. Soriano (talk • contribs) 19:54, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi David S. Soriano. Try looking at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more details. Basically, you're not going to be transfering copyright ownership to Wikipedia, just uploading a version of the work under a free license to make it easier for other people to use. Depending upon the type of license you decide to use, you may place some minor restrictions upon the file's use (i.e. requiring that you be attributed as the artist who created the work), but you won't really be able to place a restrictions on commercial reuse or derivative use; moreover, once you release a file under a free license, you can't undo it at a later time if you have a change of heart. So, if you decide this is something you're still interested in doing, please take a look at c:Commons:Licensing and upload the files to Wikimedia Commons instead of Wikipedia. Commons and Wikipedia are sister projects, but Commons is better set up to host images and the content it hosts can by used by any Wikimedia Foundation project, not just (English) Wikipedia. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:00, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

I want to thank those that took the time to answer my question- thank you all! --David S. Soriano (talk) 02:54, 18 April 2019 (UTC)David. S. Soriano

Feedback to Wikipedia

Contacting you is a really BIG problem. I just heard that you have stricken Brietbart from your list of credible sources. I cannot trust you anymore on certain subjects. I also will probably not send donations in the future. In my opinion you are no longer an unbiased, credible source. You appear to have decided to slide into the liberal camp. I don't know why you would not want to present all the views on a not scientific topic. You don't need to debate that 2+2=4. Opinions are not the same, sources are not the same. Put Brietbart back as a source to be considered as a source, or you will never see another dime from me. Right not it sounds like you sold out to the left. I feel betrayed at this time. I look forward to you response and a rethinking of your recent actions.

Gary — Preceding unsigned comment added by M2VF (talk • contribs) 01:26, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, M2VF. You are free to stop reading or editing Wikipedia anytime or stop donating. The decision with Breitbar was that it is not a reliable source for statements of facts. Its shortcomings in editorial integrity in this regard are well-established. But contrary to what you say, Breitbart can be used as a reference for opinions and points of view. Wikipedia is dedicated to reporting all significant opinions in addition to facts. Insofar as Breitbart reports those, it can be used as a reference. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 02:02, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

This was discussed at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_248#RfC:_Breitbart. As for the user, who has made no other edits from the named account, threatening to withhold contributions (or the other side of the same coin, trying to bribe us by offering to make a contribution) is not a useful strategy. Meters (talk) 02:15, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, M2VF. Volunteer Wikipedia editors have absolutely nothing to do with Wikimedia Foundation fundraising. We have no way of knowing how much you donate or if you do not donate, and if we did, we would not care in the slightest. Since the Wikimedia Foundation raises over $110 million a years at this point and has very large cash reserves, I think that they can survive just fine without your donations. If you want to be persuasive and effective here, familiarize yourself with our policies and guidelines, and base your arguments on those. As for concerns about Breitbart News, the Wikipedia article accurately states: "Breitbart News has published a number of falsehoods and conspiracy theories, as well as intentionally misleading stories, including claims that Hillary Clinton and the Obama administration supported ISIS. It has sometimes published these misleading stories as part of an intentional strategy to manipulate media narratives via disinformation." Websites that engage in deliberate disinformation cannot be considered reliable sources for any factual assertions on Wikipedia, although such sites can be cited for the opinions of their contributors. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:30, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Copyright Issues

Hi,

If I am the owner of certain publishing contents, how do I avoid copyright issues?

Cheers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Solviang (talk • contribs) 05:53, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

It looks like the note on your talk page covers all the detail.... see your talk page. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 06:13, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

K M Nair Newbie - Need help with improve it, please

! "I made my first wiki article, Titled K M Nair. It has a improve it and add links message. Can someone help me please?" MonashGreen (talk) 08:09, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

See Help:Referencing for beginners and WP:NACADEMIC. You need more/better sources than SCRID.com if this article is to survive in the long run. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:18, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Regarding User Profile

Hello, How can I change my user name from profile — Preceding unsigned comment added by FelipeTaylorus (talk • contribs) 08:35, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

@FelipeTaylorus: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. If you would like to change your username, you may do so using Special:GlobalRenameRequest(if you attached an email address to your account in your Preferences) or at WP:CHUS(if you didn't). 331dot (talk) 08:39, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Enquiry

How do I volunteer for wiki media? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.160.21.106 (talk) 07:00, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, IP user, and welcome to the Teahouse. If you mean that you want to volunteer to be an editor, welcome: You have already become an editor just by editing! It is a good idea to Create an account, as it makes it easier for other editors to interact with you and see what you have done, but you don't have to. If you create an account, you can take The Wikipedia Adventure to learn all about editing.

One caution: Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not social media or anything else. Our purpose here is to create and improve our encyclopaedia. There are quite a lot of rules and policies which govern how we do this; but don't worry about making mistakes: everybody does. As long as you are here to collaborate on the encyclopaedia, and communicate civilly, you will be fine. A lot of new editors think that the best way they can contribute is by creating new articles: that isn't the best thing for a new editor to do, as it is really quite difficult to get it right. There are millions of articles which we already have which need some loving care and attention, and some of these are likely to be in areas you are interested in. Happy editing! --ColinFine (talk) 08:46, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Question About Wiki Commons

Hi! I am an artist and have uploaded a number of images to Wiki Commons for public domain utility. Is ther ea way to see if anyone is using the artwork? Thanx! --David S. Soriano (talk) 03:09, 18 April 2019 (UTC)David S. Soriano

Hello, David S. Soriano. There are two possible subheadings that will appear on the file's page to show usage, titled "File usage on Commons" and "File usage on other wikis". These will show a list of pages using the file. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 03:39, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

@David S. Soriano: Here is a list of your uploads: commons:Special:ListFiles/David S. Soriano. I didn't find any uses in Wikimedia projects which is what the described method shows. You didn't upload them as public domain but as Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license. This still allows everybody to use them but it requires that they give attribution. Users outside Wikimedia projects are not required to inform of uses. You can make it easier to find the images by adding categories, e.g. subcategories of commons:Category:Art works. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:15, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

About interlanguage links

HI, I have doubts about how to add inter language links while translating the articles to Wikipedias other than English such as Kannada Wikipedia. I visited the help page for this cause. Please tell me in detail while translating to other languages, when, where, and how to add the inter language links. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VINAY C Hukkeri (talk • contribs)

Hi VINAY C Hukkeri. Save the translated article first. Then see Help:Interlanguage links#Wikidata. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:10, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Draft

Hi when I publish my draft my article always gets deleted, I want to write bio of singer and songwriter Lisa May. Somebody help me out please? Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miamigirl199 (talk • contribs) 10:20, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

There are many useful links in the feedback at User talk:Wikighos9, and in the content which you deleted from the draft, so look back at this version. You also ought to read what it says at WP:Articles for deletion/Lisa May. Your latest version of the draft has no sources. Read the advice at WP:Your first article, and read what Wikipedia means by notability. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:54, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Your draft have no citations to WP:Reliable sources. Take the time to read Wikipedia:Your first article, Help:Referencing for beginners and Wikipedia:Notability (music). It's possible that an article about her (that survives) can't be written at this time, see WP:TOOSOON. But the internet is bigger than WP, see for example [1]. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:58, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Document Verification

Hello there,

I see that there is no page on Wikipedia for 'Document Verification' in specific. The 'Identity Verification Service' references 'Documentary Verification'. Is it possible for a page like that to be created on 'Document Verification'? which can be linked to the 'Identity Verification Service' page. Any suggestions and answers would be much appreciated. thank you.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Grevision (talk • contribs) 12:06, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Grevision. Are identity verification service and document verification service completely separate services or are they just different names for the same thing. New Wikipedia articles should really only be created about subject which are Wikipedia notable as explained in Wikipedia:The answer to life, the universe, and everything, and the fact that a Wikipedia article exists about a subject doesn't automatically mean that an article should be created about something similiar; it could actually mean that there shouldn't be a Wikipedia article about either subject. I don't really have any idea about what document verification is other than it seems to have to do with the verification of documents. If it's the name of a particular type of software (like Adobe Photoshop or Microsoft Windows), then you're going to have to show that it somehow meets Wikipedia:Notability (software). If, on the other hand, is more of service, then you will have to establish that it meets Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Products and services. One thing about Wikipedia is that it's not the same a Wikitionary, so articles are not generally created about a term, even if it's one used quite a lot as explained in Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a dictionary. You might try asking about this at a WikiProject like Wikipedia:WikiProject Internet or Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer Security since the editors in those projects might know more about this kind of thing. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:26, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you @Marchjuly:for responding back with a detailed message. Please allow me to explain, a document verification service is different from an identity verification service, these are not different names for the same service. It entirely depends on the context of the subject, so document verification can be a stand-alone procedure use to verify the authenticity of documents. Which can include how it is done and what is checked during the process. Identity Verification involves the verification of an individual's identity particulars(On an ID document)and matched to the records of proprietary databases to ensure the validity of the identity. For the benefit of the community and Wikipedia readers, to have a separate article on 'Document Verification' made sense, rather complicate an existing article by adding a subsection and reduce article clarity. 'Document Verification' is more than just a term and a complete service, and is very notable used globally to prevent document forgery.

I hope you understand my view. However, mutual consensus, and acceptance would be accepted and followed accordingly. Thank you for considering. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grevision (talk • contribs) 08:31, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Lots of articles are added to Wikipedia each and every day. Many of them are kept, but many are also deleted. Sometimes it can take a fairly long time before an article ends up being deleted simply because there are so many articles and only so many volunteers reviewing and assessing them. Some people try to create articles about subjects that are about current events or controversial subjects which end up being noticed by some experienced Wikipedian relatively quickly, while others may be about obscure little-known topics that somebody only comes across by chance, usually when they are checking on something else like an image being used in the article or a formatting error, etc. The reason most articles end up getting deleted is because of a lack of Wikipedia notability, which is something Wikipedia defines in a particular way that might not be the same way as you're defining it above it your post. The subject might do wonderful things or serve a great purpose, etc., but the chance of a Wikipedia article written about it surviving depends on how well the subject's Wikipedia notability is established. My suggestion to you if you think this subject is Wikipedia notable for a stand-alone article to be written about it is to start a draft and when you think it's ready, submit it to WP:AFC for review. There's no guarantee the draft will be accepted, but AFC reviewers tend to be experienced editors with a good grasp of Wikipedia's various notability guidelines and generally won't approve something which is clearly not Wikipedia notable. Even if your draft is declined, the AfC reviewer should explain why and you can then work on further improving things and submit it again. There's really no limit on how many times you can submit a draft as long as you just don't keep submitting the pretty the same declined version over and over again. There's no guarantee that a draft approved as an article via AfC will never ever be deleted, but the odds of it surviving might be a little better than if you skipped AfC and simply just added an article to the encyclopedia yourself. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:30, 18 April 2019 (UTC)