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Hi. Just shared the permission email. hope it works. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Otinflewer (talk • contribs) 08:58, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

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Hi. Thanks. The permission letter been shared with Ticket#2019071310000543. Otinflewer (talk) 16:13, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Shariq Mustafa moved to draftspace

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Don't delete

There is no reason to delete it. I follow calligraphy so I'm creating a page for this artist. His work is notable and representable. I do not know him in any personal or professional capacity. Wiki prompted article creation for him. Otinflewer (talk) 11:22, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

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I realize I was just in the process of editing the information before it got nominated for deletion. I think I should use the sandbox to structure the article. Thanks Otinflewer (talk) 18:50, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Pokras lampas

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I have no connection or payment agreement with anyone I have written about. The information is based on my research on the respective subjects. Otinflewer (talk) 13:16, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Hunny Mor for deletion

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Hunny Mor has presence in North India akin several landmark public art. His contributions to art and society is notable and has inspired many upcoming street artists and graffiti artists. Kindly consider not deleting it to encourage more public art in India. Otinflewer (talk) 11:00, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

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CAA protests

Hi, regarding this edit. Can you please move the content you added to Citizenship_Amendment_Act_protests#Delhi, There is already some content on Jama Maszid protests. You can merge the relevant content there. --DBigXrayᗙ 14:05, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Otinflewer (talk) 14:07, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

why have you removed this entire section This is not repeated as you are claiming, please restore it back. --DBigXrayᗙ 14:45, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Please check. It's there. Have arranged state wise. Otinflewer (talk) 14:50, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Suggest if it can be better Otinflewer (talk) 14:52, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Please see and follow WP:INDENT. I have reverted all of your edits as it was massive undiscussed changes to the page layout that are not an improvement. If you have suggestions. you must propose them first on Talk:Citizenship_Amendment_Act_protests and generate WP:CONSENSUS. You can add content in existing sections, as long as they are reliably sourced. But for these layout changes you should discuss first. --DBigXrayᗙ 14:57, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

I just arranged statewide protest. It should make sense to everyone. Still I'll take ur advice n followup on Talk:Citizenship_Amendment_Act_protests Otinflewer (talk) 15:00, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Why do you think that the version before you edited was not statewise ? they were already arranged in Chronological order of states. What changes did you make in the order ? DBigXrayᗙ 15:05, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

I just created indentation "The guideline should never be used to bite newcomers who don't know how to indent properly, but experienced users are expected to comply with it, to facilitate threaded discussion on talk pages." Otinflewer (talk) 15:07, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

You can check what I edited. Thanks. Otinflewer (talk) 15:08, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

It was necessary to highlight the spread of protest across stressed an she same time be able to highlight the protests in universities which involve several other issues. Otinflewer (talk) 15:10, 16 January 2020 (UTC) It was necessary to highlight the spread of protest across states and at same time be able to highlight the protests in universities which involve several other issues also. Otinflewer (talk) Please suggest. Otinflewer (talk) 15:10, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

1. No one is biting you. Read WP:BITE to understand what it means first of all. Asking you to read help pages is not biting.
2. Please follow WP:INDENT, If you dont understand something then ask questions at WP:TEAHOUSE.
3. Read WP:SECTION to understand how it is arranged.
4. Everything is highlighted and arranged in order, so that the table of contents WP:TOC makes sense. Changing the subsections to make the text bigger breaks the layout.--DBigXrayᗙ 15:13, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Hence the "massive undiscussed changes to the page layout" which I thought were obvious. I appreciate your feedback. Will keep in mind. Otinflewer (talk) 15:14, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Rashid Mustafa Thirakwa moved to draftspace

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January 2020

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Much of what you've written is discrete PR for the subjects, including using what appear to be legitimate news sources but are really just rehashed PRs hidden in the by-line. You've also included information which as far as I can tell is not public, such as the birth date on Shariq Mustafa, so please explain. Praxidicae (talk) 18:00, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestion. I do not have any connection paid or otherwise with the subjects I have written so far. If I understand this correctly it is because of the nature of information I have been providing. I'd request you to please guide me how I can be more sure of the citations I provide. Also I am writing lot of these based on my ground reports that I collect from field artists. At no point I have an intention of reaching or committing to their agenda. I realized I was focussing on regional significance but subject should be of global notability for inclusion on Wikipedia. Working to put together the same. I believe your warning has set few things clear to me and I want to continue to contribute to wiki as an independent moderator. I am also planning to dedicate more time to article building before moving it to main space to avoid deletions. Also incase I work on anything I'm connected with, I'll consider your advise to mention that before I begin the article. Otinflewer (talk) 12:36, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

that doesn’t answer my question, where did the birth date come from? Praxidicae (talk) 12:59, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

It is available on his facebook profile. I searched his details after watching his performance online and decided to do some articles on musicians from Farukhabad gharanaOtinflewer (talk) 13:33, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

It is popular among music lovers in India and represents a tradition that is centuries old. Otinflewer (talk) 13:40, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

I also read that biographies of living person is the most challenging to write. So I am taking this in my stride. Otinflewer (talk) 13:46, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

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		For tireless editing of Citizenship_Amendment_Act_protests Tessaracter (talk) 19:02, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Tessaracter Otinflewer (talk) 07:55, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

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Veer Savarkar and Congress' "Quit India but leave your armies here"

Hi, Otinflewer, Thanks for your edit. But, I was wondering, why was the reference to the Congress working commitee in its wardha session in 1942, passed a resolution which said to British: "Quit India but keep your armies here". Which was reinstallation of British military rule over India which he felt would be much worse." in my edit was reverted in your edit? Even though the WP:RS was fulfilled. Anyways, if you find it relevant, you can incorporate the same even now. TIA. Santoshdts (talk) 17:40, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Santoshdts (talk · contribs), Thanks for reaching me, I believe the sentence "Quit India but keep your armies here". Which was reinstallation of British military rule over India which he felt would be much worse." does not clearly project if he was supporting British control or not and therefore it seems emotive and possibly provocative. Maybe you can use a more objective statement to put light on his reasons and view on British interest in India at the time of partition. Moreover, his conflict with congress should be a foot note on his page since he was a visionary whose vision was his prime notability. Welcome to your suggestions. Thanks.Otinflewer (talk) 18:01, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply Otinflewer, your PoV on does not clearly project if he was supporting British control or not and therefore it seems emotive and possibly provocative.. In this regard, the last sentence of my edit was clearly defining his stand which said: Which was reinstallation of British military rule over India which he felt would be much worse. With regard to the reference to the Congress, Ofcourse, He was a visionary, revolutionary and also an astute Politician. And due to which he had his point of view towards various Congress ' decisions. I find no harm in incorporating his PoV in the article with WP:RS. It's all about Savarkar, his works and his Life isin't it? In view of this, I still strongly feel my earlier edit may be reverted and would like your views on this. Santoshdts (talk) 18:18, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Santoshdts Like i said, his conflict with congress is not his notability. And "quit india but keep your armies here" was just a independence age spoof to challenge congress. his ideas had little support and following compared to the leadership view on whole from independent India. I think it is irrelevant to address it as a notable event or to emphasize on his view that it was better or worse, unless you want to push him in the limelight for right wing activism. lets assume good faith and try to keep the content true to an encyclopedia. what say? Otinflewer (talk) 23:10, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Otinflewer He had conflicts with Congress' many decisions among them was Quit India Movement which was one of major mass movement in pre-independance India, which is very much notable. And in no way a independence day spoof, as there are many WP:RS available to verify. It was against the decision to launch the Quit India Movement and at the same time asking the British to station the Allied forces' military in India during Japanese aggression in the region, which according to him was contradiction in itself, as on one side was asking leave India and on the other hand asking them to station their troops in the country. If you have any reliable source of information to dismiss the claim made by him on the issue, I would appreciate if you post that. As this page is about Savarkar's views and life, The statement iam proposing, does not in any way push his Right wing activism. It is an opposition to a particular decision which contradicts itself and is based on reliable source of information. And there are many other things he had said during this period. But as they would not add much value to the article, I have not included them. Exactly, as you said, let's assume good faith and keep the content close to Truth in the encyclopedia. Thanks. Santoshdts (talk) 04:48, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

btw, it is strange, that in your edit you mention: "He became a fierce critic of the Indian National Congress and its acceptance of India's partition." but still have reservations on the reasons for his criticism. Which in my view, would be injustice to the article. Thanks. Santoshdts (talk) 05:01, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Santoshdts (talk · contribs), Savarkar's Conflict with congress is not his notability. "Quit India Movement" was major mass movement but "quit India and keep your armies here" was a spoof. I am am not dismissing your claim but it is not notable and appears to be emotive towards highlighting his opposition to congress and his anti establishment alignment at that time. refer to WP:SYNTH for clarity on conclusive statements. Thanks Otinflewer (talk) 16:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Can we say that to a prime opponent of Congress of those time, that "Conflict with Congress is not his notability."? He might have different Priorities in his lifetime. But he did command a political space and authority in his time to oppose any political decison either by Congress, Jinnah or British Govt. Or any other political organisation of that time. The comment iam stressing is - He was critical of Congress, Thats known fact by virtue of various WP:RS references ( Even you Agree and stated the same in your edit ). My only contention of the current discussion with you is: Why was there such criticism of congress by Savarkar ? He might be right or wrong, that should be purely based on analysis of various facts recored and surely there should be Neutral analysis on those recorded events WP:NPOV. Its our responsibility to interpret events as close to truth as possible. I can cite more reliable references on this perticular point. Where as, I asked you to refute my claims regarding Congress deniying issuing such resloution in wardha in 1942 Or Savarkar not opposing the Wardha resolution? Iam still waiting for your response on that. But, you invoke WP:SYNTH instead. Could you please care to dismiss the statements Ive made based on some reliable sources on which you have reverted my edit? Hope I've convinced you on your contentions. Moreover Can you please provide some source to your current edit where you say: and opposed to the Quit India struggle in 1942, calling it a "Quit India but keep your army" movement. Iam unable to comprehend yor statement - wether its a quote by Savarkar or refering someone else ? Thanks for discussion and Awaiting consensus. Santoshdts (talk) 18:03, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Iam waiting for your views on the issue we've discussed. As I've not heard back from you, should I go ahead and revert the edit or you would like add those details in some other section of the article? Santoshdts (talk) 10:06, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

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Hello, if you object to the London Gazette source for his second middle name, I think you ought to either locate a source you deem appropriate or remove the second middle name from the article for consistency, as without that source it currently lacks any support for inclusion in the article. Please also be aware, I did not add it, rather sought to provide a source for something included in the article by a previous editor- all such facts require citation, as you are probably aware, and lacking same ought not to be included in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.144.77.173 (talk) 01:19, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

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