Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion/Archive 67
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Jeremy Vuolo
Vuolo played pro soccer in Finland making over 20 appearances for AC Oulo as the clubs starting keeper, he has been signed to play for New York Red Bulls, appropraite links in story indicated his past pro experience -Elop76 (talk) 14:07, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done - as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored on request. GB fan 00:20, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Peter_Reynolds_(politician)
This page was removed as part of a cyber bullying campaign against this constitutionally elected politician -82.20.153.69 (talk) 19:39, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
- Not done No, it was deleted via community discussion, where not only was it found to be a content fork of existing article(s), but that the subject failed to have sufficient notability. Although you could take this to deletion review, you should be aware that arguments like the one above will be unsuccessful. Try reading WP:DELETE for more information (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 20:37, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Dirk_Deppey
Still a noted comics blogger, and former editor of the Comics Journal -Catblack (talk) 22:33, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done - as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored on request. GB fan 00:15, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Peter Reynolds (politician)
I am the leader of what is now the 7th largest by membership UK political party -PeterReynolds-UK (talk) 10:16, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
- Not done See 3 threads above this, where I also state that this CANNOT be undeleted here as it was the result of a community discussion. As such, WP:DRV is your next step. By the way, WP:AUTOBIO and WP:COI would be good reading for you (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:38, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
agneya singh
obtained proper reference -Anitsaraf (talk) 11:44, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
The reason for deletion was (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of http://www.agneyasingh.com/about.php)
I have the following references to provide:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3583700/ http://epaper.asianage.com/PUBLICATIONS/ASIAN/AAGE/2012/04/10/ArticleHtmls/Independent-cinema-is-the-need-of-the-hour-10042012102022.shtml?Mode=1
- Not done - this page is a copyright violation. You are welcome to make a WP:USERSPACEDRAFT, but please verify with the deleting admin before moving it to articlespace. Note also that imdb is not typically a reliable source as it is user-editable. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:48, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Sam Foley
first wikipedia page created and was in the process of working out how to create links wihin the text to media articles. Also feel that there are players on "professional contracts" in non-league football which needs to be considered. Would appreciate if the page could be undeleted. Thank you -Sreilly84 (talk) 21:01, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done - as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored on request. I will notify user Jimbo online (talk), who proposed it, in case he wishes to consider nominating it at WP:Articles for deletion. What you need to supply are references showing how he meets WP:NFOOTBALL. JohnCD (talk) 22:16, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Church Street Center
would like to be able to obtain access to this article that I worked on (for a good while), and possibly find a way to make it worth keeping -Jice99 (talk) 01:16, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done Userfied at User:Jice99/Church Street Center Skier Dude (talk) 06:40, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Aaeon
The article in discussion, Aaeon, was deleted for G11, Unambiguous advertising or promotion. The article was written with a neutral point of view. The summary of the article contains no language that attempts to influence or persuade. It was purely informational, as is the content in the Product Line and Milestones section. Both section were written based on information gathered from their website but are not written in persuation, but purely facts. I am also in the process of incorporating additional information from various third-party sources. Please reconsider in the deletion of the Aaeon page. -Joyeung109 (talk) 20:59, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
- Not done. You think that "one-stop shopping services to minimize the customer's effort... top industrial-grade Cloud technology... non-gap design makes the PC easy to clean... strong and reliable performance... will go wherever the job takes you... " is not "language that attempts to influence or persuade?" Sorry, you are either too close to your subject or you have been too long in the PR business. That is pure advertisement - in fact, I am not surprised to find that it is copied straight from the company's promotional website at http://www.aaeonsystems.com/products/ruggedtab.php etc, so it would also qualify for speedy deletion as a copyright violation. Wikipedia is not a noticeboard to pin companies' marketing literature to, it is an encyclopedia. JohnCD (talk) 21:45, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Touché. Can I get a break? First time writer on Wiki. Can I get another opportunity to rewrite and restructure this section? Joyeung109 (talk) 23:14, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, but don't underestimate Wikipedia's strong resistance to being used for anything that seems like promotion. Better make a draft in your user space. Advice on your talk page within a day. JohnCD (talk) 17:50, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Pea bean
Deleted after a PROD in February 2011 when I was 13000 miles from my computer. It is clear that the taxonomy was/is wrong and needs researching but the Pea bean is clearly in existence, it is sold by many seed merchants , I grow it for food but it was deleted because of its uncertain taxonomical affinity. I have no problem with a restoration and immediate conversion to a redirect to Green bean or alternatively it could be usefied to my namespace so that I can work on it. Without restoration, as a non admin,I cannot access the original text or history. I have already raised this with the deleting admin NuclearWarfare but s/he appears to be on a wikibreak. I will update my message there to reflect the posting here. Many thanks Velella Velella Talk 12:58, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done - as a PROD deletion, this could be restored automatically, but in view of the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Plants/Archive54#Pea bean I have userfied it for you to User:Velella/Pea bean. Please talk to the WikiProject, particularly Peter coxhead (talk) who PRODded it, before restoring it to the main space. JohnCD (talk) 13:58, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
- Many thanks. Will do. Velella Velella Talk 16:36, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Conciliation
I requested for deletion as I didn't think the page was no longer needed. I now request for undeletion as it's needed. :) Whenaxis (contribs) DR goes to Wikimania! 23:02, 11 April 2012 (UTC) -Whenaxis (contribs) DR goes to Wikimania! 23:02, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done. — ξxplicit 23:27, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
London Vale
Hello,
I am a professional model and actress who began working professionally at the age of four in numerous national advertising campaigns. You can find proof of Warner Brother's feature film and FOX series credits dating back to 1995 on IMDb. I took some time off to study my craft further, pursuing an education in acting and art at Columbia University in 2002, and the University of Notre Dame and London's Globe Theatre from 2004-2008, and have been working as such full-time since 2008. Please see the link to below to the cover of Notre Dame magazine, which contains an article regarding my recent projects. My modeling work has been published nationally in 2010 in US Weekly Magazine, also linked below, in which I was featured in a two-page advertisement spread for Verizon Wireless and the movie Inception wearing a couture gown by the Walter Collection. I have also been featured in an eight page editorial in Swoop magazine Fall 2011 and another two page article on a Los Angeles fashion show I walked in is featured in the Spring 2012 issue of the same magazine. I am represented by The Gage Group and Betwixt Talent in Los Angeles as an actress, and Elysium Agency as a model, all professional agencies based in Los Angeles. My full portfolio is available on my website at www.LondonVale.com, and my acting credits can be checked on the IMDb. You can view my full acting reel and resume at LACasting and Breakdown Express. My acting reel is also available on my website. Please let me know if you'd like to request to view full versions of the films in which I've acted. I would appreciate it if you could kindly restore my Wikipedia page, as the information posted on my page is correct and there is sufficient information to support that fact.
Best,
London Vale www.LondonVale.com
http://onlinedigitalpublishing.com/publication/?i=104007 http://magazine.nd.edu/news/29452-london-unveiled/ http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1944865/ https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=415351642295&set=a.139376957295.107549.117276227295&type=1&theater http://www.topnews.in/london-vale-and-steve-jones-2011-artivist-awards-ceremony-arrivals-2342245 http://www.flickr.com/photos/michelleblumenfeld/4218063785/ http://scottnaide.smugmug.com/Fashion/OC-Weekly-Summer-Soiree-Bikini/17810918_Wrjs5n/3/1361277873_6VFgfJ5 http://amissive.com/2011/02/london-vale/ http://jeantsai.com/darkroom/mt/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=1&search=london+vale http://www.theloveliestday.com/2010/02/pure-beauty.html http://www.julieorser.com/new/playback.html http://www.thebindsthattieus.com/ http://www.trailerfan.com/movie/the_gunrunner_billy_kane/cast-and-crew http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/03b74818a6/the-f-list-episode-2-networking -108.233.77.175 (talk) 00:09, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
108.233.77.175 (talk) 00:09, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done - as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored on request. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:36, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Devadasy
The article was deleted back in 2008 in an AFD with little discussion, due to an apparent lack of reliable sources. I've found a couple reviews ([1], [2]) from sources that are considered reliable, plus a little other coverage, so I think the subject could pass the notability guidelines. Can it please be userfied to me so that I can work on it. -Calathan (talk) 01:27, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done Userfied at User:Calathan/Devadasy Skier Dude (talk) 03:52, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks! Calathan (talk) 04:01, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Agneya Singh
proper reference available -Anitsaraf (talk) 06:05, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
[1]
- Not done this was deleted as a copyright violation and will not be restored. Feel free to re-write the article in your own words. Skier Dude (talk) 06:52, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Premier League records and statistics
reasoning -92.10.238.52 (talk) 11:48, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
I don't have a clue what I am doing and I accidentally edited a part of this article and deleted some information so if you could please restore it that would be great, cheers.
- Not done The article itself was not deleted, and someone simply fixed the article (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:27, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Institute for Cooperation in Space
I have some potential sources that I might be able to use to improve and expand the topic into a proper article, Could the article be revived and userfied to User:Phoenix B 1of3/Institute for Cooperation in Space while I work on it, I plan on rewriting it entirely. -– Phoenix B 1of3 (talk) 19:24, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done - partly: more information on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 21:08, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Mednafen
A number of sources confirming notability are available, mostly published since the PROD date of July 2011, e.g. [3][4][5][6]. --- Trevj (talk) 12:13, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
- Not done I can't say those meet WP:RS. There were other concerns. As this is an old PROD, you would be better off creating a WP:USERSPACEDRAFT, and checking with the deleting admin before moving it to articlespace (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:26, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for those comments. In that case, I'd like to request that the old article please be userfied or incubated instead. Unless it contains little salvageable content, this should be quicker for me to add to than starting again for scratch. -- Trevj (talk) 20:34, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
- I have userfied to User:Trevj/Mednafen. Our policy states that prods will be restored on request, but I notice here that many argue against that on this page. PS Fastily is taking a break and will probably not respond. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:33, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- (I did notice that Fastily wasn't around for a while, but that there may be stalkers on the talk page.)
- Anyway, Thank you -- Trevj (talk) 11:38, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- I have userfied to User:Trevj/Mednafen. Our policy states that prods will be restored on request, but I notice here that many argue against that on this page. PS Fastily is taking a break and will probably not respond. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:33, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
I've now added some refs and moved it back to mainspace. Can I create Talk:Mednafen (containing a WikiProject banner and {{Old prod full}}) or does the old talk page need restoring? Thanks. -- Trevj (talk) 13:52, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you -- Trevj (talk) 23:27, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
Super Diamond
please userfy -ShelbyBell (talk) 04:53, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done now userfied to User:ShelbyBell/Super Diamond. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:41, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
EcoVadis
it is a translation of an existing French version -Shimmeul (talk) 04:59, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Not done Please note that the English Wikipedia has much stricter requirements for inclusion. The article as written was highly promotional, and read more like a business directory than an article about what needs to be a notable topic (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:14, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
Marco Cremona
This article should be restored as the artist is well known in Malta. See references http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swieqi and www.galleriacremona.com -92.251.92.32 (talk) 07:47, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Not done - As announced at the top of the page, this process is only for articles that were deleted uncontroversially and has no applicability to articles deleted after any deletion discussion. Since the article you are here about was deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marco Cremona, it cannot be undeleted through this process. Nevertheless, if you believe that the consensus found at the discussion was in error, or that significant new information has come to light since the deletion, you may contact the administrator who closed the discussion, user Kevin (talk · contribs). After you do so, if your concerns are not addressed and you still seek undeletion, a request may be made at deletion review. On your references, Wikipedia pages are not counted as reliable, and anyway the section that mentions the artist has no references. The galleria page is not an independent page. We need multiple independent and reliable sources. Perhaps you can find a Maltan newspaper article about him. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:02, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
The International Relations Review
PROD expired with a notability concern. Journal maintains its federal identifications, and has furthermore expanded its scope and size since deletion. -Afacini (talk) 18:08, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done - as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored on request. GB fan 18:37, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
File:Toposa in action.jpg
Deleted per Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2012 January 20#File:Toposa in action.jpg but with "with little or no participation other than the nominator" (as Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion mentions), and probably more or less uncontroversial to restore. Reason for undeletion: The file meets plausable educational use under Commons:COM:SCOPE, but I didn't catch that it had been deleted until a related file came up for deletion. Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2012 April 12#File:Toposa.jpg is the related file's discussion, which gives a more detailed reason for this file to be kept. That deletion nomination was withdrawn and that file is now File:Vaca toposa.jpg on Commons. (Bringing to RfU because the closing admin was Skier Dude, whose page User:Skier Dude/D says that using RfU may be faster.) -Closeapple (talk) 05:27, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done you can tag with {{db-f8}} once you have copied to commons. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:48, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Moved to Commons. --Closeapple (talk) 19:25, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
File:EncinitasCitySeal.JPG & File:LA County DA Seal.gif
- File:EncinitasCitySeal.JPG · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions] and
- File:LA County DA Seal.gif · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions] as well, please.
Template:PD-CAGov applies now; this wasn't clear at the time they were deleted; legal precedent has changed. (The permission tags one sees at File:Seal_of_California.svg do too.) And if you can think of anything else worth undeleting that Template:PD-CAGov justifies, please have at it! I can't search through deleted files, but you can.--Elvey (talk) 22:07, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done & feel free to post any others that are found. Skier Dude (talk) 03:47, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
- THANKS! (Related request below.) --Elvey (talk) 20:34, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
ben scott ac/dc
reasoning -101.114.77.239 (talk) 23:13, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
- Not done This fails Biographical notability standards and has no references Skier Dude (talk) 03:36, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
zenphoto
Hi, I'm new to this, apologies if I make a mistake.
I was looking up Zenphoto which is AFAIK one of the most popular CMS Gallery software. But apparently there is no article. There must have been one that got deleted by mistake - it was a one-click install on dreamhost until recently. Sure enough, It was deleted by 19 June 2011 User:Courcelles for the reason "Expired PROD, concern was:...notable..." I don't know what was in the article before it was deleted. But I do know this is significant FOSS. I'm surprised the article has been gone for so long. I don't know a lot about Zenphoto [that is why I came here] maybe it is less popular now for a reason? Maybe it got forked or the developers tried to put advertising on it? But that should be written up in the article, not deleted IMHO.
I did a google search for "most popular gallery software" and the first hit talks about the popularity of zenphoto. Also, wordpress has 6 plugins for zenphoto. I don't know what else I can argue to prove that it is notable? If you search wikipedia for zenphoto you get no article [because it was deleted] but you get several hits - because people use it to host photos that are linked by wikipedia! I don't know what metrics are used to determine notability but it seems that one of the top photo gallery software should be included. Piwigo is, and so is Gallery2. Those are the other two main ones I know of.
Thanks for your time. Apologies if I'm not putting this request in using the proper channels. Please tell me how better to do this request if I'm not doing it right. Thank you.
Rusl (talk) 07:25, 15 April 2012 (UTC) -Rusl (talk) 07:25, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done - as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored on request. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:29, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Dorothy Koppelman photos
Dorothy Koppelman emailed a copyright release(OTRS ticket# 2012032710017038) of the following images under CC-BY-SA-3.0:
- File:Combat.jpg
- File:Intaglio_Angel.jpg
- File:TwoSmoothies.jpg
- File:The_Kind_Messenger.jpg
- File:Napoleon-Meeting.jpg
MorganKevinJ(talk) 21:29, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
MBX Systems
not advertising -Mbxlizm (talk) 15:16, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
I recently updated our company page and attempted to upload a new company logo. I was alerted that our page was deleted. I was not aware of any errors nor did I intentionally add content that could be construed as advertising. If you undelete this page I will review to ensure unbiased content and remove anything not fitting the criteria. The intent was to add new information about the company and links to articles and new website (www.mbx.com). In doing research on Wikipedia to find out why my page was deleted I learned several guidelines to follow while editing a page. Our company page has been on Wikipedia for more than 5 years, and the updates were not intentionally made for promotional purposes. Thank you for your consideration.
- Not done - this article has not been restored because it does not appear to meet our guidelines for inclusion of articles concerning companies. In general, Wikipedia considers a topic to be notable if there exist multiple reliable sources of information on the topic, external to the subject itself. Articles concerning companies will be deleted on sight if they are considered to be unambiguous advertising or promotion, or if they do not contain a credible assertion of the significance of the subject. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:43, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Stihl Timbersports Series
Still relevant as the Series is active and successful. -74.95.157.225 (talk) 12:55, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done - as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored on request. — ξxplicit 01:33, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
- If it is to be kept, it needs some independent references - the existing ones are all Stihl. JohnCD (talk) 10:36, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Dong-A Pharmaceutical Co., Ltd.
Send me the copy for me to add more valuable information -Bacchus2012 (talk) 00:13, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
I am currently working on updating valuable information of the article I provided. Please restore it or send me the contents.
Thank you.
- Done. I have userfied the article for you - moved into your user space at User:Bacchus2012/Dong-A Pharmaceutical Co., Ltd. where you can work on it. Do not move it back to the main space without permission from the deleting admin, The JPS (talk). Wikipedia is not a business listing directory: if this company is to have an article, you have to demonstrate notability by references showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." JohnCD (talk) 09:25, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Kaylee Bays
Kaylee is a scoliosis icon. This information is all accurate. It is listed in the article that Kaylee is known for her Scoliosis. -KayBays (talk) 02:42, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
- Not done. Wikipedia is not a place for people to write about themselves. Please read WP:Autobiography and WP:Guidance for younger editors. JohnCD (talk) 09:16, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Template:Infobox mountain/main/sandbox
I was working on some new markup when it was deleted as a sub page of a deleted sub template. After I get a chance to review it's content I will request that it be deleted again. - –droll [chat] 05:51, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
- If you could move the page to my user space would do nicely. I was unaware of that option. –droll [chat] 16:19, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done to User:Droll/Infobox mountain/main/sandbox. When you have done with it, put {{db-user}} at the top and someone will delete it. JohnCD (talk) 19:10, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you. –droll [chat] 00:39, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done to User:Droll/Infobox mountain/main/sandbox. When you have done with it, put {{db-user}} at the top and someone will delete it. JohnCD (talk) 19:10, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
- If you could move the page to my user space would do nicely. I was unaware of that option. –droll [chat] 16:19, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Infosuicide
Referenced from a Wired Article to provide a deeper understanding of the term, but once here, nothing. If the term was in use, and referenced in external sources, as the discussion states, it appears you merely deleted it with prejudice. -205.242.83.12 (talk) 20:44, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
- Not done. This article was deleted as a result of the deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Infosuicide so, as stated at the top of this page, it will not be restored here. If you believe the discussion was not closed correctly, or you have new information, you should first contact the administrator who closed the discussion, user TParis (talk). Then, if your concerns are not addressed, you can go to WP:Deletion review. JohnCD (talk) 20:56, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
File:Chandrakant bakshi.jpg
This picture was my own work.I photographed it myself, thus it is not a copyrighted material.I am releasing it into public domain. -Max Viwe | Wanna chat with me? 15:36, 18 April 2012 (UTC) Max Viwe | Wanna chat with me? 15:36, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done Please go and edit the file description page to add the PD-self template, and give some more information such as when the photo was taken. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:55, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Carl Boyd, Jr
reasoning -La2100 (talk) 10:05, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
I wasn't finished adding stuff. Why can't you help me put it in right context. You guys are suppose to be here to help.
- Not done - this article has not been restored because it does not appear to meet our guidelines for inclusion of articles concerning people. In general, Wikipedia considers a topic to be notable if there exist multiple reliable sources of information on the topic, external to the subject itself. Articles concerning people will be deleted on sight if they are considered to be unambiguous advertising or promotion, or if they do not contain a credible assertion of the significance of the subject. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:36, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Distribution America
there are two or more versions of this article which have been deleted. I am the author of the most recently deleted article, and have never seen the older version(s), so I don't know which version is the best to restore. Mainly, I am just asking the responsible administrators to engage with me on a talk page, rather than ignore me, or template and delete without responding to me. Distribution America is a notable co-op, and in my previous attempts at communication, I explain why. See the talk page of the most recently deleted version. Thank you. -Wbm1058 (talk) 16:20, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- Maybe you can restore the older deleted version to my user space so that I can try to fix it so it's not blatant advert? Wbm1058 (talk) 16:24, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done. Your article was a single sentence "Distribution America is a hardware store retailers' cooperative" plus a list of members and a list of competitors. You need to show why the subject is notable in the article. We get more than one new article a minute, very many of them about absolutely non-notable people, bands, companies etc; there is no time to write an individual explanation for each one, and the template you got gave links to WP:CSD#A7, the reason for deletion, and WP:Notability, the guideline that shows what's needed: references showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject."
- I have restored it to your user space at User:Wbm1058/Distribution America where you can work on it. You can see the older versions in the history, but I don't think they will help as they are mostly pretty spammy, "our combined buying power... enables our retailers to compete profitably" etc, - not surprising when written by users like Dacommunications (talk). Please read WP:Your first article and WP:Notability (organizations and companies). JohnCD (talk) 17:14, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. I see that a previous version was restored by DavidLevinson on 22:47, 26 January 2009 [7], presumably that administrator thought it met Wikipedia standards. Indeed, from the article history it appears that he started the article on 14:51, 4 April 2004. So I must have a little something there to work with! Thanks, again. Wbm1058 (talk) 18:05, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- I have restored it to your user space at User:Wbm1058/Distribution America where you can work on it. You can see the older versions in the history, but I don't think they will help as they are mostly pretty spammy, "our combined buying power... enables our retailers to compete profitably" etc, - not surprising when written by users like Dacommunications (talk). Please read WP:Your first article and WP:Notability (organizations and companies). JohnCD (talk) 17:14, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Francesca Cruz
Because there was nothing wrong with the page. I don't see why it was deleted. -YouknowZACK (talk) 21:53, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done - as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored on request. GB fan 22:48, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Hugh Jass Hookah Matata
This article was created only for temporary purposes, it is a necessary item on a scavenger hunt list. If it can be undeleted just until the end of the day tomorrow,April 20, perhaps until around five, it would be greatly appreciated as this would be worth a lot of points for our team -Ericavee17 (talk) 03:19, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- Not done and will not be doneWikipedia is an actual Encyclopedia, and can't really participate in your activities. - Rjd0060 (talk) 03:59, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Liam O'Neill
creation of bio page for new President of Gaelic Athletic Association; page of same name was deleted and blocked in 2010 after vandalism -Brocach (talk) 13:23, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- Not done Nothing worth undeleting. However, if you create a WP:USERSPACEDRAFT that includes notability, valid third party reliable sources, and other aspects from WP:FIRSTARTICLE, it might become beneficial (right now, I don't see how they're notable outside of relationship with the athletic association). Verify with a few trusted editors before moving it to articlespace (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:47, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- Not seeking to restore the page deleted in 2010, just to unprotect Liam O'Neill so that I can write a new article (not exactly my first) that will meet all the criteria. Brocach (talk) 14:43, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- I have moved the page as per the request at WP:REQMOVE. ... discospinster talk 23:25, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks Brocach (talk) 13:20, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- I have moved the page as per the request at WP:REQMOVE. ... discospinster talk 23:25, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- Not seeking to restore the page deleted in 2010, just to unprotect Liam O'Neill so that I can write a new article (not exactly my first) that will meet all the criteria. Brocach (talk) 14:43, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
coolnovo
The product is still being actively developed, with an english version. (see http://www.coolnovo.com/download.php?hl=en). The deleted page (http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoolNovo) still exists in 3 other languages within Wikipedia. (see http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoolNovo, http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoolNovo, http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoolNovo). This product should actually also be included in the Wikipedia page "Comparison of web browsers". -70.166.93.81 (talk) 21:51, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done - as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored on request. I will notify user Mabdul (talk), who proposed it, in case he wishes to consider nominating it at WP:Articles for deletion. The article will certainly not survive in its present form, only one line and no references; you may be able to improve it with material from the other language WPs, though its presence there is not a compelling argument to keep it here, as each WP has its own standards. If the product is only still in development, it is quite likely that there will not yet be the independent comment about it necessary to establish notability. JohnCD (talk) 20:13, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
The Economist special reports list
No community discussion of deletion, and dispute that it is a 'trivial list'. If nothing else, would like a copy of the page to improve to Wikipedia standards. -Shaded0 (talk) 07:33, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done - as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored on request.. I will notify user Underlying lk (talk) who proposed it, in case s/he wishes to consider nominating it at Articles for deletion. I must say I am inclined to agree that this is listcruft; this kind of article rapidly goes out of date unless someone is interested enough to update it every fortnight, and the information is readily available at The Economist's website. JohnCD (talk) 13:45, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- After looking at the page I think I will agree with this. I'll update the reference in The Economist wiki page accordingly to link directly to special report page. I don't feel like the old special reports list really contributes too much. Shaded0 (talk) 18:21, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
little face syndrome
I made this page for my husband about our dog. I was hoping you could restore the content just so I can send him the info. I understand if I cannot have it posted on wikipedia but I would like the content back please. -Sydne426 (talk) 22:16, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- Not done. This cannot be restored because it is not at all the sort of thing that Wikipedia is for; but if you enable email on your account I can email you a copy. To do that, click "My preferences" at the top of the screen, and at the bottom of the "User profile" tab enter your email address (which will not be visible to me or anyone) and check "Enable email from other users." JohnCD (talk) 22:24, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
File:CW69 Logo.png
This logo is ineligible for copyrights, and there must be previous revisions that still exist. -George Ho (talk) 23:14, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done, one revision restored. — ξxplicit 01:16, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
OTRS Ticket # 2012022210008719
An email received(archived in ticket# 2012022210008719) from T. H. Cayne, the website owner of http://www.thcayne.com, in the permissions queue confirms permission for the following files, under Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike License 3.0 and GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version:
--MorganKevinJ(talk) 00:22, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done and OTRS ticket added to all three images. — ξxplicit 01:15, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Heaven's Not For Saints
Article was deleted last year after an expired PROD: concern was "No claim of notability with notability concerns unaddressed since August 2010, fails WP:NSONG". The song does meet this notability guideline, having reached #9 in the Norwegian charts [8] although this information may have been absent from the article. -Contains Mild Peril (talk) 02:35, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done - as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored on request. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 04:02, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Any files like File:EncinitasCitySeal.JPG & File:LA County DA Seal.gif
(Thanks for the two restores above, SkiierDude!)
Template:PD-CAGov applies now; this wasn't clear at the time they were deleted; legal precedent has changed. Thanks User:Skier Dude for undeleting those two! (The permission tags one sees at File:Seal_of_California.svg do too.) I'm not an admin. If an admin can look or if anyone can suggest a way to find some of the files worth undeleting that Template:PD-CAGov justifies - e.g. by doing a search through deleted files for PD-CAGov or the like, I'd appreciate it! I can't search through deleted files, but you can. Please don't mark this done or remove it, at least not for a while. It's only very slightly out of scope for this list; if no one wants to deal with it, it'll get auto archived. Seems a better place to ask than somewhere generic. --Elvey (talk) 20:34, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
- E.g. File:Bhcityseal.jpg. I can't look at File:Citybird.gif but an admin can.....--Elvey (talk) 20:59, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
- *File:Lacounty_originalseal.JPG · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]
- *Image:Lacitycouncildistricts.JPG · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]
- *File:Bhcityseal.jpg · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]
- *Image:Citybird.gif · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions] Not done - company logo
- I need help where the file name isn't enough of a hint.
- Restored as above for more detailed review and possible change with timer reset. --Tikiwont (talk) 21:24, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
- Since these are city seals they could be used under fair use anyway. But are the city governments really a part of the CA government? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:42, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
- Restored as above for more detailed review and possible change with timer reset. --Tikiwont (talk) 21:24, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
OLIN
In my watchlist (for National Design Awards) I noticed OLIN was PRODded, concern was: non-notable company. In fact, this is a quite a famous award-winning company, Olin Partnership; check the backlinks I've just added for its designs. I made the redirects, but later it occurred to me that quite possible the page was created by clueless marketroids from the company in the form unfit for wikipedia. Please restore the page, and I will create a reasonable wikipedia article. Staszek Lem (talk) 17:19, 20 April 2012 (UTC) -Staszek Lem (talk) 17:19, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- Do you mean Olin Corporation, or one of the many other things disambiguated at Olin? --Orange Mike | Talk 18:23, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done I've restored OLIN as contested prod under the redirect. --Tikiwont (talk) 21:01, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
The Trouble with Sweeney
A7'ed. Requesting userfication for possible restoration. -Chubbles (talk) 00:31, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
- Userfied - the page has been restored to the userspace at User:Chubbles/The Trouble with Sweeney . --Tikiwont (talk) 21:07, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Giannis Agtzidis
Football player who is now notable per WP:NFOOTY, having played for Greek Superleague side Doxa Drama five times in March 2012. [9] Needs restoring and updating, thanks. -– Kosm1fent 16:22, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done - as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored on request. --Tikiwont (talk) 21:11, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Something for Rockets
'Something for Rockets was an american electronic rock band with multiple albums available on iTunes. Members of the band are still making music. I had to find an archived version of the article to find the information I wanted. This is a poor deletion candidate; please restore this information.' -198.228.210.225 (talk) 04:16, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done - as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored on request. GB fan 04:29, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
List of Radcliffe and Maconie's Chain Tracks
The page was deleted for the reason that it has no encyclopaedic use, which is garbage. The feature is listed on the radio stations website but there is no way of easily searching for what has previously been played which the wiki page was able to show easily by sorting. This page was a source of reference for hundreds of listeners who contribute to 'The Chain' on a daily basis, ensuring to check the page before recommending a new track to be played, of which there are 3 per day, 5 days per week. The feature is the most popular part of R&M's show on one of the most popular shows on BBC 6 music. 82.34.233.253 (talk) 15:11, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
- Not done. This article was deleted as a result of the deletion discussion at WP:Articles for deletion/List of Radcliffe and Maconie's Chain Tracks so, as stated at the top of this page, it will not be undeleted here. If you believe that the consensus found at the discussion was in error, or that significant new information has come to light since the deletion, you may contact the administrator who closed the discussion, user Explicit (talk). After you do so, if your concerns are not addressed and you still seek undeletion, a request may be made at WP:Deletion review. JohnCD (talk) 18:59, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
Jade Barnwell
The article will give Internet users insight into a young beginning artist's lifestyle and will help people interested in visual arts read more about it -Porcupinecreek (talk) 20:59, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
The article was originally deleted because it did not have enough "signifigance" or "importance" to be shown under Wikipedia, according to section A7.
- Not done Wikipedia is an encyclopedia of notable subjects, not one for new or emerging topics. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:21, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
Reviving request of more BBC logos
- File:BBC Sport.svg · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]
- File:BBC NorthEastAndCumbria.png · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]
- File:BBC West.png · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]
- File:BBCYorkshireLincolnshire.png · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]
- File:BBC Midlands.png · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]
- File:BBC east.png · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]
- File:BBC London logo.png · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]
- File:BBC EastMidlands.png · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]
- File:BBC South.png · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]
- File:BBCSouthEast.png · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]
I wonder why this request was archived without replies. --George Ho (talk) 07:34, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
- Almost forgot, just in case: WP:deletion review/Log/2012 January 30. --George Ho (talk) 07:03, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
- {This is the second request, and eleven days pass after the first. Are there no efforts to bring this into attention? --George Ho (talk) 18:32, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
- Responding, so the robot here doesn't archive this until eight more days. --George Ho (talk) 23:15, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- {This is the second request, and eleven days pass after the first. Are there no efforts to bring this into attention? --George Ho (talk) 18:32, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
- Already done - back on the 15th. Magog the Ogre (talk) 07:54, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
File:FriendsLogo.jpg
I don't know why this request is neglected. Per commons:File:The Simpsons Logo.svg, this logo must be PD, isn't it? -George Ho (talk) 07:02, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
- It's been eleven days after first request, and this is the second. Is there something going on? --George Ho (talk) 18:31, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
- Well, this has been deleted as Unused non-free media file. It has been replaced by File:The Friends Stage cropped.jpg which is on commons The main article has File:Friends titles.jpg. Do you intend to actually use the deleted file instead? Otherwise why worry whether it is uncontroversially free after you yourself challenged in the past its Fair use? Just a comment. --Tikiwont (talk) 18:05, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- Back then, I don't know whether it is copyrighted or not, so I put this under review. Then, however, I realize that The Simpsons logo is not copyrighted, as well, handwritten or not. The Simpsons logo was nominated for deletion in Commons, but the result was keep. In other words, Friends logo is not copyrighted because "The Simpsons" is not copyrighted, as well, so this should be undeleted and then moved to Commons without prejudice. --George Ho (talk) 23:13, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- Well, I don't doubt you're trying to do the right thing, but as you haven't answered my question regarding use, I respectfully step back here. --Tikiwont (talk) 17:11, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
- What was the question? I mean, I used WP:NFR to determine its copyright status, not its fair use. Isn't that how a review works? --George Ho (talk) 17:23, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
- Ah I see only now that after adding the di-disputed fair use rationale tag in 2011 you also brought it to NFR before coming here. Well you didn't link to the discussion, I'll do so now for the benefit of anyone willing to follow-up. The unanswered question was the first one. Obviously you can always upload it directly to commons if you see fit.--Tikiwont (talk) 20:32, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, yes, I intend to use the deleted file in Wikipedia because the other was a photoed plate sign and had no diversive colors; I hope that is for the first question. Also, here's another discussion. --George Ho (talk) 21:15, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
- Ah I see only now that after adding the di-disputed fair use rationale tag in 2011 you also brought it to NFR before coming here. Well you didn't link to the discussion, I'll do so now for the benefit of anyone willing to follow-up. The unanswered question was the first one. Obviously you can always upload it directly to commons if you see fit.--Tikiwont (talk) 20:32, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
- What was the question? I mean, I used WP:NFR to determine its copyright status, not its fair use. Isn't that how a review works? --George Ho (talk) 17:23, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
- Well, I don't doubt you're trying to do the right thing, but as you haven't answered my question regarding use, I respectfully step back here. --Tikiwont (talk) 17:11, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
- Back then, I don't know whether it is copyrighted or not, so I put this under review. Then, however, I realize that The Simpsons logo is not copyrighted, as well, handwritten or not. The Simpsons logo was nominated for deletion in Commons, but the result was keep. In other words, Friends logo is not copyrighted because "The Simpsons" is not copyrighted, as well, so this should be undeleted and then moved to Commons without prejudice. --George Ho (talk) 23:13, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- Well, this has been deleted as Unused non-free media file. It has been replaced by File:The Friends Stage cropped.jpg which is on commons The main article has File:Friends titles.jpg. Do you intend to actually use the deleted file instead? Otherwise why worry whether it is uncontroversially free after you yourself challenged in the past its Fair use? Just a comment. --Tikiwont (talk) 18:05, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
File:The Friends Stage cropped.jpg is tagged as public domain, even with the CC license. --George Ho (talk) 05:20, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done - I've undeleted it, under the provision that you put it in use within 7 days. If it's not in use in 7 days, I will delete it again. I'm not sure this is PD-textlogo, but I'm not willing to fight it either, so if you feel it is textlogo, then please move it to Commons. If you feel it isn't textlogo, then it is replaceable by the logo you mentioned above. Magog the Ogre (talk) 07:59, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
File:Comedy Central Extra.svg
The image was replaced by the logo from the Dutch version of Comedy Central Extra. However the article primarily focuses on the British and Irish channel which uses the deleted logo. For that reason I'd like to restore the deleted logo to the infobox and use the Dutch logo from the Commons in separate Image template, as done on the German language version of the article. -Jasmeet_181 (talk) 11:57, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done. — ξxplicit 22:25, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Heartland Communications Group LLC
The article restored to userspace so I can work on it to attempt to address the problems that led to deletion = non-neutral text and lack of notability -Bill davidson789 (talk) 14:36, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
- Not done - As announced at the top of the page, this process is only for articles that were deleted uncontroversially and has no applicability to articles deleted after any deletion discussion. Since the article you are here about was deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Heartland Communications Group, LLC, it cannot be undeleted through this process. Nevertheless, if you believe that the consensus found at the discussion was in error, or that significant new information has come to light since the deletion, you may contact the administrator who closed the discussion, user Scientizzle (talk · contribs). After you do so, if your concerns are not addressed and you still seek undeletion, a request may be made at deletion review. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:17, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Jamar Pillow
significance is person is one of only 16 members of a pioneering graduating class from the first ever magnet school in Nashville, TN in 1990. Significance is company created by person is the first ever company of its kind in the state of Tennessee -Jrpillow (talk) 07:39, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
- Not done - this article has not been restored because it does not appear to meet our guidelines for inclusion of articles concerning people. In general, Wikipedia considers a topic to be notable if there exist multiple reliable sources of information on the topic, external to the subject itself. Articles concerning people will be deleted on sight if they are considered to be unambiguous advertising or promotion, or if they do not contain a credible assertion of the significance of the subject. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:29, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Galileo_Gambit
Mentioned in sources to describe a particular situation. -99.239.218.67 (talk) 15:20, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
In a quick search I have a few sources that mention Galileo Gambit. Deeper research should return more information about the subject.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/08/is-rick-perry-21st-century-galileo http://books.google.ca/books?hl=en&lr=&id=jHA_uXY299AC&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=%22Galileo+Gambit%22&ots=IDos2mjMDx&sig=17PvenqyiCIWO_V6lKdojAfLiys#v=onepage&q=Galileo%20Gambit&f=false http://books.google.ca/books?hl=en&lr=&id=6P1lBUh3R3kC&oi=fnd&pg=PR5&dq=%22Galileo+Gambit%22&ots=sB2i62wj53&sig=2PEJUWLZtCP4nIpH4gFHOFkw2fs#v=onepage&q=gambit&f=false
- Not done. Although this is a WP:PROD it's an old one. The "article" is more of a dictionary definition, and the majority of it's references are from blogspot - which is not an acceptable reliable source. As such, even if undeleted, it would need to be hacked apart before being AFD's (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:32, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Shannon Burke
To update -Rogue Guy (talk) 18:39, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
- There isn't really much content to restore under this title. Which Shannon Burke do you have in mind? --Tikiwont (talk) 20:32, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done I have restored The Shannon Burke Show. You really do not need anything at Shannon Burke ( a redirect to the show). The The Shannon Burke Show was prod deleted twice. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:36, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
User:SpeakFree/WikiEN
reasoning -SpeakFree (talk)(contribs) 22:12, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done. — ξxplicit 22:22, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
User:SpeakFree/WikiNL
reasoning -SpeakFree (talk)(contribs) 22:13, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done. — ξxplicit 22:23, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
salwa saif
reasoning -Salwas94 (talk) 02:19, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
1= Salwa Saif 2= it has references https://www.causes.com/profiles/137253840 http://photos.silive.com/advance/2012/02/p1_un_4.html
- Not done The reason for deletion was "Unambiguous advertising or promotion". Having references does not address that issue. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:24, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
ODU Webb Center
The article created for the Webb Center at Old Dominion University was created to educate the masses, and the students of Old Dominion University about the student union of Old Dominion University. This includes the services provided within its doors as well as historical information about the Webb Center and its founding. The article is important because it will assist individuals with finding the information they need about the student union. This includes the services and retail locations, but also the links to these services. At present, it is not as easy as it could be to find important information about Webb Center. Wikipedia is a largely successful medium, and Webb Center is the center of student life at Old Dominion, and the article is developed in a way to be informational and educational to provide quick access to this information. -128.82.57.71 (talk) 01:34, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
- Not done On top of the page not indicating the importance or significance of the subject, it copies text verbatim from at least two other webpages, http://www.lib.odu.edu/specialcollections/oralhistory/oduhistory/webbintro.html and http://www.odu.edu/af/webb/ This makes it a copyright violation and will not be restored. GB fan 01:57, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
LiveProfile
LiveProfile is a mobile app with over 20 million active users. Content on the article was verifiable by trusted public sources -Pjk12 (talk) 12:43, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done - as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored on request. Needs still better sources, though, to avoid a deletion discussion. --Tikiwont (talk) 19:24, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Sterling_Commerce
This was a valid company bought out by IBM with a histroy including CEO Sam Starr who recently passed away and was featured in Forbes. The user who deleted this page no longer exists. There was a debate in 2007 and it was decided to keep this page. I see no valid reason for it being deleted. -Arcanewizard (talk) 18:07, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
- The "article" that was deleted was a piece of promotional garbage, full of marketing trash from its very first sentence ("comprehensive portfolio of Smarter Commerce solutions to help companies redefine commerce in the age of the customer"). (Hint: unless you're talking about the answer(s) to an equation, or about solutes dissolved in solvents, the nonce-word "solutions" is a scarlet brand displaying the Mark of the Advertiser.) If there is a pony under all the horseshit, I will attempt to find the poor thing and restore the pre-spam version. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:05, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
- Sadly, I had to go back to 2007, and even that version was a bit spammy. This article needs some impartial editing by somebody who cares about the field but is not employed by the company. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:15, 26 April 2012 (UTC)