Wikipedia:New contributors' help page/Archive/2008/June

References

There are alternative templates to reflist, but I think it's the easiest one in this case. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 00:06, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

The other thing that I found helpful is WP:CITET, citation templates are good because they give you a structure for your references. The other thing I found helpful is to go into My Preferences, click on the gadgets tab and enable refTools, this will add a CITE button to your editing toolbar, just click it, then pick you citation type, fill in the fields that are applicable and click add citation. --Captain-tucker (talk) 00:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't have anything to add, but as a new contributor, I must say that this page is a wonderful example of what Wikipedia represents and I'm incredibly grateful to people like Captain-tucker and so many other people who help on this page and bring new contributors into the community with their constructive, generous support. The demeanor of this page is all-too-uniquely positive in the Wikipedia realm, and is the kind of interaction that will help make Wikipedia thrive and expand with new contributors feeling welcomed, appreciated, and supported as they try to contribute what they can to Wikipedia. Thank you all for helping on this New contributors help page. If I had a cheesey medal to give you all, I would. Deproduction (talk) 17:35, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Citation question

Our public library offers access at home access to the EBSCO database that provides access to many publications, articles, journals, etc... Is it 'proper' when creating a citation using the citation templates such as Template:Cite journal to include the EBSCO URL to that citation? Since the EBSCO databases are not available to everyone some people would not be able to access that URL? Thanks in advance. --Captain-tucker (talk) 16:22, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

If it's not available to everyone because it requires an account or log-in process, then it should not be used as a citation. I'm not certain that's what you're saying. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 18:07, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Whyever not? It's fine to cite a journal or book with no online presence at all, and I can't see how a url makes the citation harder to verify. Algebraist 10:11, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I was unsure since the URL would not be accessible to everyone that it would not be 'proper form'.--Captain-tucker (talk) 12:16, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I am 99% sure that such a link to a large subscription database is fine, and in fact good because it makes it easier for others to verify the contents of the reference. I am also pretty sure that it's recommended to mention that it's a subscription service (something like adding "subscription" in the format field). However, I can't find anything in Wikipedia: space to back me up. You might want to try the reliable sources noticeboard and see if anyone there knows. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 00:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I may have to stand corrected, then. I have seen other websites (message boards) that disallow links to pages that require logging in, and presumed WP has the same rule. But you make a good case that this may not be true. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 00:56, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

How Can I Get Back to a "Saved" Sandbox (Draft) Page?

I'm a new user. This is a question about how to use the software.

I decided to use Wikipedia to air some ideas of mine about "health care reform in the United States." This is a Wikipedia topic with subheadings. I hadn't figured out where in that grouping I wanted to put it yet--since it was a call for theory, I thought it belonged near the start--but anyway I was well into writing it when disaster struck.

BTW, I'm an accomplished writer; I know what I'm doing in that regard. It's software (yours and others'; Cox's email software has been especially bad) that repeatedly trips me up. Seems as if software packages ignore the way that real writers write, assume that everyone writes in soundbites that take 30 seconds to compose, and therefore don't make it obvious or intuitive how to save, and return to, work in progress. Doing that task seems tacked on as an afterthought.

So here I was writing an essay in Wikipedia, using Sandbox as my drafting space. I was going to submit pure old-fashioned text. I knew I wouldn't be done in one sitting. I was thinking of Sandbox as analogous to, say, Notepad, where I could draft what I wanted to say, revise etc., then shoot it to the actual article I wanted to add to.

So I got to a stopping place. I hit "Save Page" in Sandbox. I run Windows Vista, and I watched the little green bar at the bottom of the screen behave as it does when it is saving something. But--to my horror no dialog box came up asking me where, or how, I wanted my work saved. Instead, my page disappeared! Have you any idea at all how traumatic that is for a writer??! Now I've spent a ridiculous amount of time trying to find my work. I'm ticked. Please advise.

American99robin (talk) 05:39, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello American99robin, and welcome to Wikipedia! I'm sorry your first experience at writing here hasn't gone well so far. I'll do my best to help.

The first thing I checked was your contribution list, to find the edit in question. But it looks like you made the edit while logged out (unless you did it from another account?) so it's not there. I then looked at the Sandbox's revision history, but as you can see it gets a lot of edits from people trying out the software and I couldn't find your work there, either. I might be able to find it for you if you can find out the IP address of your computer or tell me roughly what time (in UTC) you made the edit.

I'm slightly puzzled that your writing just disappeared when you hit save. Are you sure it didn't appear on the sandbox when it refreshed, maybe at the bottom of the page? And you're certain that you did press save?

Finally, this won't help recover your work but here are some comments that will hopefully prevent similar future mistakes. While you were basically right about Sandboxes, the main Sandbox is available to anyone who visits Wikipedia, and so gets a huge number of test edits (and, yes, people messing around). A far better place to store your work is a personal sandbox which you can make at User:American99robin/Sandbox (just click the red link and then create your page and save it there) - other people should leave that alone, so your work won't get lost in such a dense edit history. The reason that no save dialogue appeared is that when you click 'edit page' you're telling the software you want to edit this page, and clicking 'save' will save it to whatever page you were on.

I hope all that makes sense. If you have more questions or anything that might help me find your edit, you can reply here or contact me on your my talk page. I've also left a few links that might be of help on your own talk page. Good luck! Olaf Davis | Talk 10:20, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I meant my talk page, not yours. Also another thought just struck me: if you know or can find your IP but don't want to publish it here, you can just check the contributions yourself. Olaf Davis | Talk 10:28, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi American99Robin. Like Olaf, sorry to hear you've had a frustrating time with the software. Losing a contribution you've worked hard to create is infuriating! I can't add anything to Olaf's excellent summary of how to tackle the drafting/sandbox issue, but one thing did strike me about your query: the line: I decided to use Wikipedia to air some ideas of mine about "health care reform in the United States.". If you do decide to redraft your contribution and add it to the article, you may wish to have a look at Wikipedia:No original research first. If a contribution consists, or appears to consist, of someone airing their personal ideas or theories on a particular topic, it's sure to be reverted very quickly by another editor, and that too is infuriating for the contributor. WP:NOR's guidelines may help you couch your contribution in terms that reduce the likelihood of this happening. Happy editing. --Karenjc 14:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Question about Requirements for a Parody Religion to get onto the Parody Religion page

What does a parody religion need to get a mention on the Parody Religion page as I've attempted to put about Pieism before but it was soon deleted. Pieism has over 2400 links on Google and lots of followers (almost 50 have signed the Pieism petetion on Petetion Online and over 20 more are known who haven't) . There are many different Pieism sites including http://www.jojo-pieism.tk . If this isn't enough to get a mention, what is would a parody religion have to do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.79.190.241 (talk) 15:14, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Generally, you would need coverage in independent media sources. The Flying Spaghetti Monster has been listed in several news outlets, including the New York Times and USA Today. If you could list some sources, your entry would have a better chance of being kept. TN‑X-Man 15:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I see you have also posted to Talk:Parody religion. That is a better place for discussion. Note that the article Pieism was deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pieism and other times since then. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:24, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.68.64.48 (talk) 14:22, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Internal links

I recently moved the article on Seventh-day Adventist Kinship International to main space (I think that's what it's called). A few of my internal links to other Wikipedia articles, which I had enclosed in double brackets, do not now show as links. Is this what is called "double redirects"? If so, how can I find out where the original article is? Carrol Grady (talk) 23:22, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

A double redirect is when you are redirected to page that itself is a redirect. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 23:25, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Carrol, the problem with some of the internal links in your article is that you have the two quotes to make a word italics inside the double brackets, the two quotes need to be moved to outside the double brackets. It should look like this ''[[Article]]'' You might also want to read WP:CITE as are not using the <ref></ref> reference tags to create your references, another good article to read is WP:CITET--Captain-tucker (talk) 23:39, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Carrol, because you initially wrote this article on your talk page, when you moved it to the main space, it took your talk page with it as the article's talk page (and redirected your talk page to the article's talk page). Rather than editing your talk page to remove the redirect and then copying and pasting the user talk page comments back to your talk page, you may want to ask an admin to work their page move magic to fix this for you, so that user talk page comments are back where they are supposed to be, with the talk page edit history preserved. For future reference, it is much better to create an article as a subpage of your user page, for example User:Carrol Grady/subpage (where "subpage" is replaced by the article name) and adding the {{usersandbox}} template at the top (so that other editors realise it's a sandbox). Then, when the article is ready, moving it is a much cleaner process.  – ukexpat (talk) 18:06, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

wikipedia article links on google maps

You know how you can turn on wikipedia when you are looking at a google map so that links to wikipedia articles show up on the map? Does anyone know how you can get your article to show up on google maps? i thought it might be an automatic thing but my article does not seem to be showing up. I do know that google takes some time to update...but i am wondering if there is something else i need to do. 64.107.171.2 (talk) 19:51, 2 June 2008 (UTC)Bdierks

Google links to articles via information from the coordinate template, as well as related templates listed in documentation section. This template needs to be placed in the article before it can appear on google maps. Someguy1221 (talk) 22:22, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Creating a New Article, and self-serving entries

I'm a fairly new contributor and want to create an article for Denver Open Media, the city of Denver's Public Access TV station. DOM operates 3 TV channels in Denver and was a recent recipient of the Knight News Challenge award. However, I am the founder of DOM and am unclear if my role in the organization represents a conflict of interest that should preclude me from authoring that article. Any guidance? Deproduction (talk) 17:23, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I just read through NPOV and it seems there's nothing against me creating this article...

Read WP:COI and WP:FAQ/Business. Those will give you better guidance. Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 19:46, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

thanks Gtstricky. I hadn't read COI, but its clear I should refrain and wait for someone else to realize that Wikipedia is not complete without an article about Denver Open Media ;) 70.59.16.211 (talk) 16:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

User subpage

I am rather nervously trying to write my first new article. I gather the best way to do this and spend some time on it before it is launched into the shared space where it can be edited by others is to use the user sub page. I have created my user page but how do I start to use the subpage, and can I copy and paste the word document I have written onto this subpage and start to format it? Mark J Richards (talk) 09:21, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:SUBPAGE has the info you need. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 09:24, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

How to contribute an article on a person in Wikipedia

How to contribute an article on a person in Wikipedia Aozukum (talk) 13:17, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, your best bet is to review this guide. It has a lot of tips for getting started. You may also want to look at this notability guideline for biographies. I have also left a message on your talk page with some useful links. Good luck and feel free to ask questions! TN‑X-Man 13:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Creating and Editing.

I would like to know ho to create a completly new article, and how to link another article to a page the I am creating or editing. I'm a new user and I am sure that this may seem like a relatively obvious question, but i can't seem to find the answer.

Gaurdians1 (talk) 20:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

No worries for having questions - this is the place to ask them! For information on creating a completely new article, Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:Starting an article should be able to help you out. As for linking to another article from the page you are creating, that is done by using internal links created by putting double brackets - [[ ]] - around the name of the article you would like to link to. For example, if I want to link to an article about mice, I would type [[Mice]], and it would show up as Mice. If you try to link to an article that doesn't exist, it will show up as a red link, like this one. -- Natalya 20:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

temporization guidelines

Before one restores a tooth permanently with amalgam can one temporize with IRM till gingiva improves and better moisture control is achieved for tooth to be restored are there any guidelines for it.

Thanks tanya

You may want to try posing your question at one of the relevant reference desks. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 09:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Or see your dentist! – ukexpat (talk) 13:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

how long before an article I submit can be viewed?

I have just created a page but cannot see it when I search. Does it take time before the article will be visible or have I made a mistake? SibyllenorasSibyllenoras (talk) 12:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

It should be visible immediately. I checked your contributions to see if it was up. Were you referring to this article? It looks like it's available. If you have any other questions, let me know. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 13:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

It can take a variable amount of time before an article appears in searches, however, and articles tend to appear on Google before they show up in Wikipedia's search. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

how do I upload images to the wiki hosted on my server

I have downloaded the Wikipedia server installable files and hosted wiki for my office. This page contains some information for our use. I want to upload images to pages contained in this server. How can i do that.

202.67.4.3 (talk) 06:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

how do I upload images to the wiki hosted on my server

Resolved

I have downloaded the Wikipedia server installable files and hosted wiki for my office. This page contains some information for our use.

I want to upload images to pages contained in this server. How can i do that. Priaps (talk) 06:52, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

This request doesn't really belong here. The page you're looking for is mw:Manual:Configuring file uploads. In the future, if you have any MediaWiki-related questions, ask them at mw:Project:Support desk or visit the MediaWiki IRC channel. haz (talk) 07:06, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Quality, importance and assessment scales

Can someone please check out this article and give it quality, importance and assessment scales. I created it about 4 days ago but I don't wanna do it, I rather see what others think about it so I can improve it even more. It is still incomplete. - iDosH! talK? 17:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

The best thing to do is find out which WP:WIKIPROJECT it might fall under/with and discuss it there. However, from what I can tell, the article is a notch above stub class. Some more information, references etc..and it can be start material. You're on the right track, keep up the good work. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 05:45, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

How do you post a small article without it getting deleted

I find all these directions confusing. Is there a simple way to post an article, have references attach and post without it getting deleted due to lack of content? Please help

Seansports-referencenfl (talk) 21:22, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

It looks like your submission is doing okay. As long as you make sure there's a couple of references or an assertion of notability in the article, it will be fine. (In this case, the fact that the subject of the article you've submitted is a pro football player is an assertion of notability, for example.) Tony Fox (arf!) 22:13, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

How to create an article if want to edit names of important persons

'Somebody notable will have his or her own article. If there's no article, create the article first. Don't add anyone who doesn't have an article.' This caption is shown before adding names of important persons, what is this? and how to create an article of a personality? —Preceding unsigned comment added by S Farman Ahmad Naqvi (talk • contribs) 04:19, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

These links should prove useful to you: your first article, article development and notability for personalities. The last link will help you create an article that meets our basic notability criteria. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 05:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, where does that quote come from? It seems to contradict WP:RED which recommends red links to articles that should be created in future. I've never seen a policy that says "don't add anyone who doesn't have an article", if this is referring to a link. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 04:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

How do I get the "candidate for speedy deletion" removed

I wrote a new page about a business that had a promotional rather than encyclopedic tone. I have now fixed that but the tag says I cannot remove the tag. How do I get someone to check the page and remove the tag or explain what additional changes I need to make. The page is Eriskay Associates Ltd. Chiz200379 (talk) 12:37, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

You've done exactly what should be done, which is add the {{hangon}} tag to the page and discuss it on the article's talk page. This gives a heads up that someone is trying to improve this article. Any administrator who reviews the current list of speedy deletion candidates should see those two things and take that into consideration. If the admin thinks its been improved, they'll remove the tag.TN‑X-Man 12:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

When I first started editing WP I had my first article about a company speedy deleted so I know how you feel. The best thing you can do is find any reliable sources, things like newspaper/magazine articles, etc... that talk about the company. You need to establish notability for your article by providing these sources. You can list them as references or use them as citations to back up any specific facts within your article. You can look at WP:CITE and maybe WP:CITET for details on how to do that. --Captain-tucker (talk) 13:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Ms. Duff's Lizzie McGuire Movie not-so-secret secret.

Did any of you ever look for the real reason that LaLaine wasn't in the Lizzie McGuire Movie?64.105.123.182 (talk) 22:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC) Whoever knows the real reason, say Lalaine. Anyone?64.105.123.182 (talk) 22:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC) ok. LaLaine. That's right. I know the reason and I will share it with you. Before the movie, Lalaine and Hilary had a huge fight. It was bloody, girl-wise. Hilary got so incredibly mad at Lalaine which led to the most Injustice, Chauvinist and Racist thing to ever come out of Hilary's mouth-- she made a sick stereotype and said "She hates Filipinos." If you don't know why that has anything to do with their fight, here it is. One of Lalaine's Parents is actually from the Philippines. A thrid-world country in south-east Asia. I'm from there, so that was toxic for me. Now you know why all the Filipinos who know this, Hate her guts and Why Lalaine wasn't in the Movie. Thanks so much for listening.

This is a place where new users can get help with understanding and using Wikipedia, not somewhere to post unsourced anonymous rumours about the behaviour of celebrities. Do you have a question about how to use Wikipedia that we can help with? --Karenjc 23:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

does wikipedia offer...

a video component to the search engine? I was curious if there is anything available to view the entries in an explanatory visual fashion. I am disabled in learning from reading. "audial visual learning impairment" AVLI

67.169.130.184 (talk) 01:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

There are some Wikipedia articles that have been recorded spoken - you can see them at Wikipedia:Spoken articles. -- Natalya 03:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

How can I translate in Greek an article about SCADA? I didn't find a Greek translation. thank you

I 've translated an article about SCADA and I want to upload it in Greek. How can I do that? Thank you. Antiopi Gigantidou~'s —Preceding unsigned comment added by Antiopi (talk • contribs) 05:08, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

If you want to write the article in Greek, then you'll want to contribute it at the Greek Wikipedia, since the articles on the English Wikipedia should be in English. Is that what you meant? -- Natalya 11:57, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

want to browse north carolina map of usa

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. 59.184.161.134 (talk) 08:03, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

North_Carolina#Demographics has some North Carolina maps. If that's not what you need, you'll probably want to use Google Maps http://maps.google.com/. Just as an fyi, information questions such as this should be brought up at the Reference Desk. -- Natalya 11:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Adding Kiswahili language pages

I want to add pages written in Kiswahili, but the language is not listed, how do I add a new language?--CarlHinton (talk) 14:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

The Kiswahili Wikipedia is here. Happy editing. Algebraist 14:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Adding to the "Way of St. James (Route Descriptions)"

1. I would like to add a section "The Swiss Way" to the Contents and then a similar paragraph as the others - See

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Way_of_St._James_%28route_descriptions%29

2. Then I would like to add an article "The Way of St. James through Switzerland.

Thank you for your help.

Vreneli (talk) 15:29, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

To edit a page, you need only click the "edit this page" link at the top of the page. Wikipedia:How to edit a page gives more information on how to edit. To add a new section, use equals signs (==) between the section title - you can see examples of it on the page itself. The more equals signs you use, the smaller the section it is. To make sure that you've gotten it right, be sure to use the "Show preview" link before saving the page!

As for adding an article, Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:Tutorial should give you helpful information. Please let us know if you have more questions. -- Natalya 21:29, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Creating a Page

How do you create a Infobox on the right hand side of the Wikipedia article? I tried to mimic the text of an article with a Info Box, but it did not work.

Second, how do you embedd images on to the page?

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. Lrietmann (talk) 20:27, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

If you can find the template page for the infobox, it should show you how to implement it. For example, Template:Drugbox is the template for an infobox. You should be able to find the name of the infobox by clicking on the "edit this page" link and looking at the text.

As for embedding images on a page, Wikipedia:Images should give you all the information you need. If you'd like more detailed information, you can take a look at Wikipedia:Extended image syntax. -- Natalya 21:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Adding myself to a list of notable people from my state

I want to add myself to a few lists here. I attempted to do so, and was not successful. I have proper documentation as to the verifiability of my edits. Could someone please help me with the correct way to add myself to these lists? Napolillo (talk) 21:35, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry you've had a frustrating time with reverted edits. Having had a quick look, the basic problem is that you are adding a redlink to these lists - in other words, your name in brackets does not link to a Wikipedia article called Eddie Napolillo because there isn't one, so the link comes up red instead of blue. In the main, the lists you are looking at are lists of people who have proved notable enough to have a Wikipedia article - the lists are just another way of organising them for ease of use. There are a few redlinks, but the majority of the people listed in those lists are bluelinked. Redlinks are far more likely to get deleted, on the assumption that if you're not notable enough to have an article, you're not notable enough to be on the list.

Have a look at Wikipedia:Notability, which explains more about the site's criteria for the inclusion of individuals. And please bear in mind the contents of Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, which applies to people considering editing material about them, or about someone or something closely associated with them.

I'll leave some more useful links on your talk page. Best wishes --Karenjc 22:46, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

How do you create a sport stub

I am transferring data regarding player from major league sports who either ahd short career's or were member's during strikes. Not a lot of data. However they deserve the posting. Only referencing US sports. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seansports-referencenfl (talk • contribs) 01:42, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Stub gives some information on stubs. However, before creating such an article, you need to make sure that the person it is about is considered notable by Wikipedia standards, and that the article follows the standards on biographies of living persons. -- Natalya 03:23, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Ken Miles page

I've been screwing around in computing since I graduated from college in the mid-60's.

It is not clear to me how you have set things up to allow modifications to existing text. While i spent most of my working life in computing, my first ambition was to be a race driver. I drove in SCCA for 5+ seasons after I got out of college. I just finished a little upgrading of the entry for Ken Miles. Dunno if what I did stored, but it will be entertaining to see.

If you want a (moderately) knowlegable contributor/editor in the motor race category, I'm your guy. Though I must admit that I have a strong preference for road course racing over circle track stuff. Chris Prael (talk) 07:26, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello, and thanks for joining Wikipedia and contributing to articles. You might be interested in joining Wikiproject Motorsport, an area where motorsport enthusiasts collaborate on article work. Other than that, have fun and happy editing! Gazimoff ^Write_Read 07:46, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Welcome! One of the best things about Wikipedia is that you can jump in right away and get started. I've left some useful links on on your user talk page. There's plenty to do, whether you want to create new articles, edit existing ones, or get others involved. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 13:46, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Archiving a talk page

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 – Talk page has been archived appropriately. --TN‑X-Man 02:15, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello! During my participation in a discussion on Infobox Musical artist, I've concluded that it's time to archive the majority of the page (it lags terribly during editing). I've read through Archiving a talk page, but I can't figure out which archival method has been used on this particular talk page in the past, and basically I don't have the confidence to carry out the archival. The last three subject headings contain active or recent discussions and shouldn't be archived, if possible, in my opinion. I'm just stuck on what to do, technical-wise. Advice or guidance? Thanks so much! -- Hamuhamu (talk) 18:43, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

It looks like the cut and paste procedure has been used to archive the page in the past, reference from the fact that we can see the history of the talk page all the way back to its creation (and, I looked through the history and found some of the copy/paste archives). Additionally, if you'd like to leave some discussions still on the talk page, it seems like a cut and paste move archive would be best, becase if you were to move the page to archive it, you'd have to move the entire page, including the discussions still going on. Other than that, be bold!. You can do it! And if something happens to go wrong, I'm sure someone will be happy to fix it. -- Natalya 20:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I was brave and did it! Looks like it all worked fine, and the talk page is so much easier to edit now. Thanks for your help! -- Hamuhamu (talk) 02:11, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

create page

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. Ironman706 (talk) 14:11, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Looks like you haven't actually asked a question; but if you're trying to figure out how to create a page:

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. --ais523 14:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Vermaculture

I was wondering if you could get me some info on vermaculture James Dunne —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.159.158.102 (talk) 19:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I am not sure what you mean by "vermaculture". As Wikipedia does not have an article on James Dunne, I recommend a Google search. You may also wish to add a request for the creation of a James Dunne article on Wikipedia. Also, please sign your posts with "~~~~". Good luck, –thedemonhog talk • edits 20:07, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I think that is probably the posters name as he does not know how to sign. SpinningSpark 20:13, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Knowledge questions should normally be asked on the Reference Desk but did you mean vermiculture ? SpinningSpark 20:13, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Contributing an Article Written in Microsoft Word

I wrote an article using Microsoft Word, which includes mathematical formulas created with Word's Equation Editor, as well as tables. I would like to contribute this article to Wikipedia. I tried to copy and paste the article into my page, but the pasted version did not preserve the format of the equations and tables. How do I get my article into Wikipedia without having to retype it? WomanOfLeisure (talk) 01:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not accept articles in Word format. I haven't tried it but there may be useful tools at Wikipedia:Tools#Importing (converting) content from other formats to Wikipedia (MediaWiki) format. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:57, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't suppose Equation Editor/MathType has an "export to LaTeX" option anywhere, does it? The MediaWiki math tags will accept a large amount of TeX codes. Also, I believe that OpenOffice is able to take a document and convert it to MediaWiki format (although not necessarily Wikipedia format, given the amount of customisation installed), which may include the tables (but probably not the equations, although it's worth a shot). Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 00:57, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

How to change the color of clicked links

I'd like to change the color of clicked links to something more striking. Can anyone help me on this? ImpIn | (t - c) 23:53, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Your best bet may be to change your browser settings. Of course, that would affect all webpages, not just Wikipedia. In Firefox, choose preferences, then content, and you should see a colors button. I'm not sure about other browsers, however. Cheers. TN‑X-Man 03:26, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

To just change only Wikipedia, you need to make an entries in you monobook.css page. This page probably does not already exist for you and you will need to create it at User:ImperfectlyInformed/monobook.css. Here you can write css code to change how Wikipedia is displayed for you. Sorry, I am not skilled enough with css to give you reliable specific code. There is a gallery of "skins" other users have created on meta at [1]. If none of those appeal to you try asking for help on the computing reference desk Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing. SpinningSpark 14:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

My watchlist

What are the green and red numbers which are in brackets in my watch list? What do they mean?

Bobzooka (talk) 08:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

As explained at Help:Watching pages#Watchlist, that's the change in the size of the article wikicode (in bytes). (Part of) the idea is that mass deletion of content is visible as a big red minus. Algebraist 08:12, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

where to work on drafts?

I was using my user:page to write drafts and then moved them when ready, however I was told that I shouldn't do this, due to some issue about user:talk also moving. So I was givin suggestions to create a user/subpage but also one to use a user/sanbox to prevent catagory:template from activating. wich one is more appropriate for writing drafts? I thought you where supposed to move articles instead of copy pasting them so the creation history would go with it. Bloodkith (talk) 11:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

If it is a new article, then a subpage and then "move" when ready is the most appropriate way to do it because, as you say, the history goes with it. I can't see that the talk page is a big issue because if it is created in your user space then there is hardly likely to be anything on the talk page unless you wrote it in collaboration with another user. Nevertheless, the talk page is moved with the article page by default, but optionally you can just move the article.

The talk page becomes an issue when a page is moved from one mainspace location to another. In this case it will have a talk page with real material on it which must be moved with the article. The error often made here is to cut and paste to the new page which loses the history and the talk page.

If you are drafting an addition to an article, then it is not possible to move it without first ahving an administrator delete the original article. In this case it is best to draft it on a subpage (eg user:<username>/sandbox) and then cut-and-paste when ready. It is not important that the history of your changes to the draft are preserved - they were all done by you and get rolled up into one edit, still by you, when you cut-and-paste.

Categories are NOT suppressed in your sandbox or any other page. If you want to place categories in the draft article you should surround them with <nowiki></nowiki> tags to prevent your userpage appearing in the category page. Remove the nowiki tags when you are ready to move the article. SpinningSpark 12:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

thanks for the clarification —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bloodkith (talk • contribs) 12:31, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I've just read the complaints on your talk page (which I should have done first) and now I understand the problem. When you move a draft from your userpage, you have been moving your usertalk page with it. People are not liking this because your talk page contains stuff that is not relevant to the article. It is ok to draft an article on your userpage but when you move it you MUST uncheck the "Move associated talk page" box. I would still recommend you use a subpage instead though, it would be nice if instead of using your userpage to do drafts, you used it to tell us all something about yourself. Hope that helps. SpinningSpark 12:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Just to expand on the sub-page thing. Just create a new page, something like User:Bloodkith/subpagename (replacing "subpagename" with the name of the article). Also a good idea to add {{usersandbox}} at the top of the page so that other editors know that it is user subpage sandbox. When you think the article is ready to be moved to the mainspace, you may want to ask a few other editors to read it over before moving. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 13:31, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

The Blue turtle shell

Mario Karts most infamous weapon. The blue turtle shell seeks out the Lead car adn takes him out. Depending upon which version of the game N64/NDS/wii it can take out ever car on the way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kootari (talk • contribs) 16:43, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure what your question is, but the related info can be found here. TN‑X-Man 17:12, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Image:N515507711 683006 6859.jpg

Can somebody tell me how to delete the Image:N515507711 683006 6859.jpg, as i wrongly named this article. Link [2] (I have already dupicated with correct name [Image:Canary Wharf view.jpg] )

Hi! I have deleted the image for you. See WP:CSD. :-) Stwalkerster [ talk ] 11:23, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Specifically, category I1 will accomplish this in future. Olaf Davis | Talk 14:56, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

uploading a picture

I want to upload a logo image on a page,m if I dont have administrative ability on Wikipedia how do I do it?Mike Spector (talk) 19:49, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

See WP:UPIMAGE. This gives you information on how to upload and which license would be appropriate when you submit the image. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 19:51, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Second indent showing as double bullets

I am trying to construct a page where I have two lists (2nd level). For the second-level, I get two bullets displayed instead of the second-level bullet indented appropriately. I have tried a combination of ":" and *" but, the "*" shows as is.

This is part of the code:

• To update the database schema:
  • From the latest version:

rake db:migrate

• • From certain version:

rake db:migrate VERSION=nn

• • Recreate full db:

rake db:reset --trace

rake db:migrate --trace

• • Recreate full db schema:

rake db:migrate VERSION=0

Gisellas (talk) 20:03, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm not 100% sure what you want to do, but you can do something like this:

• First level bullet.

• Second level bullet

(You can take a look at the code for how I did it).

-- Natalya 00:54, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Use of Images & Copyright Questions

I have an old postcard with a photograph of a lighthouse that was seriously damaged (a corner of the brick structure) and I would like to upload the image. However, I do NOT know how old the photo is and do not want to violate copyright laws. Any comments or suggestions? --Crimson Red Fox (talk) 20:14, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... usually, unless you can be sure that the it's allowed by Wikipedia's Image Use Policy, it's best to be safe rather than sorry and no upload it. You might try posting at Wikipedia_talk:Image_use_policy to see if they have any other suggestions, though. -- Natalya 00:58, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Changing title of the an article

How do I change the title of an article that I have written if I have already saved the page.Marlouis1 (talk) 20:27, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

You can click the "move" tab at the top of the page. However, this button is not visible for users whose accounts are less than 4 days old, and who have less than 10 edits, so you'll need to wait 2 more days to do it yourself. Alternatively, you could ask another user to move it for you - I'd be willing if you give me the old name and the new name. Just leave a note on my talk page, and I'll be happy to help. :-) Stwalkerster [ talk ] 20:35, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm assuming you want your page at World Cultural Economic Forum, so I've gone ahead and moved it. Paragon12321 (talk) 21:02, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Articles written like an advertisement

Hi,

As a new contributor I'm writing this article about a record producer. It will include multiple citations and references. In my research I've also started to read articles here on Wikipedia about other record producers, for example Max Martin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Martin.

On top of this page it says "This article or section is written like an advertisement. Please help rewrite this article from a neutral point of view." On the bottom, which I understand, it says "This article needs additional citations for verification."

I'd very much like to avoid any mistakes in my own article, so I have three questions:

1. Quote: "This article is written like an advertisement..." Please explain what this means and how dodge it?

2. Quote: "Please help rewrite this article from a neutral point of view." Again, what does this mean? At least to me it seems that this article was written by a devoted fan? (Perhaps I'm wrong.)

3. This article is obviously missing citations and references. Is that the reason for the two comments "advertisment and rewrite"? Or are there other things I have to consider, adding or perhaps excluding, writing my article?

I will be very greatful for answers,Dafos (talk) 18:12, 8 June 2008 (UTC) 213.100.89.251 (talk) 17:39, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

You should read the policy WP:NPOV which explains the neutrality issue which is obligatory that you stick to. The criticism that the article you referred "reads like an advertisement" is more a criticism of the style. In my opinion the article is not so bad, there are certainly far worse. I think perhaps the editor who posted that template had in mind unencyclopedic phrases like "propelled into the spotlight" and "reinvented himself"

The issue of citing reliable sources is a different matter not really directly connected to the first two points. Again this is a matter of policy that articles should have reliable sources. The guidelines WP:RS and WP:Music will help you here.

Hope that helps SpinningSpark 19:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Spinningspark for your answer and good advice. It's comforting to hear you saying that the article I refer to is not that bad, because the one I'm writing is in some ways written in a similar way, but now excluding contingent phrases such as "propelled into the spotlight" and "reinvented himself". Though someone else may perhaps be of another opinion than yours, still suggesting to delete it? Already spending a "billion" hours on this article, how can I be sure it will stay online? My key question is, can I? Dafos (talk) 19:25, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Dafos. If you haven't already come across Wikipedia:Writing better articles, I can recommend it as a good source of information. It offers help with most of the topics you've raised in your question. Good luck with the article. --Karenjc 18:51, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Karenjc for your answer and support with my article. Dafos (talk) 19:25, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Two beasts in the menagerie of methods used to write "advertisement-like" articles are weasel words and peacock terms. If you avoid those (like the linked pages tell you to), you're well on your way to an article that meets the neutral point of view. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 00:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Reply to Dafos. The two essential things that defend any article against deletion are establishing notability (in your case WP:MUSIC gives the specific rules for music articles) and providing reliable sources (WP:RS) that back up your notability claims. Everything else is minor by comparison and can always be fixed. We prefer to get bad articles fixed rather than delete them. But if the subject is not notable in the first place there is nothing that can be done. SpinningSpark 21:45, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

How to create/edit class?

How do I do this? Thanks. 77.74.229.50 (talk) 22:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

What do you mean by "class"? ffm 23:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Classes, like HTML classes, so I can set center alignment in a template, and stuff like that. I've seen articles with it, I can use existing ones, but what if I wanted to create a new one? Code you insert to article would be something like this: <class="nav-simple"> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.74.229.50 (talk) 23:07, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

You need to write it as .css code, see here http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AddScriptCss. You might also need to read the following pages for background Help:HTML in wikitext, Help:Parser function and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Parser_function_extensions. But you might want to start by learning simpler stuff first. SpinningSpark 01:48, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! 77.74.231.90 (talk) 14:45, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

talk replies

I don't know how to reply in a dialogue on talk pages, though I've searched the help section Rogerc99 (talk) 09:23, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Talk page and Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. To make this reply, I clicked "edit" to the right of your section and added my comment at the bottom after a colon ':', without changing the existing text. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:46, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Conflicting Facts and a Copyright Question

In the “Balfour Stewart” article I have two reliable sources which give different dates for the death of Balfour Stewart. The Encyclopædia Britannica Eleventh Edition sights “19 December 1887” while in the official obituary, the Royal Society sights “18 December 1887”. How do I resolve this issue or take note of it?

The University of Edinburgh is sending me an electronic copy of the engineering plans for one of the instruments which Balfour Stewart built. The University Librarian believes that the content, which is 150 years old, is not under copyright. Can this material be added to Wikipedia?

Michael Ronayne (talk) 15:47, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

On the first point, I'd suggest going with Britannica as your main point of reference, but mention in that reference the Royal Society date as well, just to cover both points. As for the second bit, I'm not sure - someone with better copyright knowledge, can you please weigh in here? Tony Fox (arf!) 16:05, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Probably {{PD-old}} is the most appropriate copyright tag for the image in this case. The copyright term in British law is shorter but using this tag will be more inclusive worldwide, especially USA. On the date discrepancy, have you considered the possibilty that this is down to the Railway time versus local time issue? It is possibly a bit late for this to be the cause but many cities obstinately refused to set their clocks to "London time" for a considerable period after GMT became official. The Royal Society almost certainly used GMT but the death certificate might conceivably be dated by local time which could be a different day if its close to midnight. SpinningSpark 16:47, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

That is an interesting point about Time Zones. It would not apply in this case because Balfour Stewart died in Ireland which is still at GMT+0 and the British were very meticulous about keeping such records. The Royal Society Obituary was written by his best friend while Britannica is a highly regarded source. I will have to find a third source, such as a news paper obituary. Are there any Wikipedia templates which can be used to flag such discrepancies, like “Wikipedia:Citation needed”.

The Royal Society used two time references in their reports, Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) and Kew Mean Time (KMT) or 'Astronomical Time' which begins at noon when all good astronomers are sleeping. 'Astronomical Time' dates are usually counted as 'Julian Days' which are days since the 'creation' on January 1, 4713 BC at noon (I kid you not). The whole this looks very much like Star Dates in a Star Trek episode.

Here is a reference. http://www.maa.mhn.de/Scholar/times.html#juli Only an indirect reference in Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Time

In his papers Balfour Stewart used both Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) and Kew Mean Time (KMT) interchangeably, in some cases on the same page.

Michael Ronayne (talk) 22:55, 13 June 2008 (UTC)....

Question

How does one add a wikipedia entry?

Corbinstina26 (talk) 18:01, 11 June 2008 (UTC)C. Corbin

Simply search for the topic/subject using the exact name. If the article does not exist, Wikipedia will prompt you. A link will be present that reads "create this page". Click that and you may begin editing. I suggest that you read over notability guidelines and reliable sources before hitting the save button as to prevent your entry from being speedy deleted. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 18:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

NO1GODZILLAFAN How do I delete my account? —Preceding unsigned comment added by NO1GODZILLAFAN (talk • contribs) 16:59, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

HT Ferrar 1879-1932 Antarctic geologist on the Discovery expedition 1901-1904

HT Ferrar was born in Dalkey, near Dublin in 1879, and moved to Durban,South Africa at an early age with his parents.He was sent back to Oundle School in England for his secondary education, and then went to Sidney Sussex College at Cambridge University, where he read Geology.He excelled at sports, and many of his team photographs are archived at his old school and college respectively.On going down from Cambridge, when rowing at Henley, he was offered the post of Geologist on Captain Scott's first Antarctic expedition, and became the youngest member of the scientific staff. He sailed on the Discovery, and met his future wife (Gladys Anderson)when the ship was in New Zealand.The Discovery then sailed South and found suitable anchorage in McMurdo Sound in the Ross Sea - the expedition was to spend two winters there, as the ship was frozen in and could not get free of the ice in the first summer.Ferrar took an active part in exploring and in carrying out scientific studies ( eg sea water salinity measurements) as well as his primary responsibility of geological surveying. He accompanied Shackleton and Dr Wilson amongst others on sledging trips, and it was in the Antarctic summer of 1903 that he went on his major sledging trip of discovery into the Western Mountains of Victoria Land.He travelled to the Upper Taylor Glacier, and found coal deposits at an altitude of 8,000ft. He also characterised a broad layer of sandstone found in the region, and this became known as the Ferrar or Beacon sandstone layer. The Ferrar Glacier was named after him, and he unwittingly discovered the first fossils found on what was then known to be the Antarctic mainland.One of the many rock samples which was returned to the National History Museum in London was split open by Dr WN Edwards in 1928, and found to contain two fossilised leaves of Glossopteris Indica.Ferrar returned on the Disovery in 1904, and spent the next year writing up the Geological report of the expedition. He was then appointed to the Geological Survey in Egypt, and worked there until the First World War broke out,when he took his family back to New Zealand. He returned to serve with the 1st Canterbury Regiment in Palestine, working principally on aerial surveys and intelligence. After the war he took up a position with the New Zealand Geological Survey, and carried out extensive field work in both the North and the South islands.He obtained his PhD whilst working for the service, but died after an operation in 1932. As a mark of respect he had Ferrar peak in the Cloudy Range of the South Island named after him. Apart from the aforementioned photographs of his school and college days,various of his Polar relics are held by the Scott Polar Research Museum (Cambridge,UK),the Canterbury Museum in New Zealand and the Discovery itself at Dundee in Scotland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Forbem02 (talk • contribs) 15:11, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

It looks like you've posted an article here, rather than actually creating it.

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. -- Natalya 15:40, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

That's a great article. Possibly the problem is that the account is only one day old and cannot create a page. No sign of it being a copyvio, at least not online. I'm going to post it myself and leave a note for the OP. SpinningSpark 20:53, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Creating a Stub

Resolved

I am trying to find out how to add a stub to the following. Wylye Valley. I wish to enter a stub from this page to a village in the Wylye valley called Sutton Veny.

I have searched to try and find how to do this but am unsure. It does seem complicated.

I would be very grateful if you could point me in the right direction.

Thank you very much for your help,

Sj053 (talk) 15:08, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks. It just appeared on the Wylye page - not sure how but many thanks anyway. Kind regards

Sj053 (talk) 15:27, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

It's not complicated at all. First of all, what you are trying to do is not called a stub, but is a wikilink. You create these by typing double square brackets around the name of the article you want to link to like this [[Sutton Veny]] and it will appear like this Sutton Veny. If the link appears in red it means that the article does not exist yet. You can create the article by simply clicking the red link which will take you straight to an editing screen, but only after your account is 4 days old, you cannot create new pages before then. SpinningSpark 17:26, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Brilliant - many thanks for the reply 86.154.3.73 (talk) 17:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Deleting My Account

NO1GODZILLAFAN (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) How do I delete my account?

You can't.but you can just discountinue editing and dissapear.Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 17:45, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

See right to WP:VANISH. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 19:54, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

translation

can I translate an article from Arabic to English Gmary (talk) 19:04, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

You certainly can. There is already a list of articles that need translation here. Alternatively, you can translate a page from the Arabic Wikipedia. Good luck! TN‑X-Man 19:25, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Guidance please about adding new climate change novel details to wikipedia

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. 86.156.236.153 (talk) 17:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

hello,

A year or so ago I added some amendments/additions to wikipedia to include information about my emerging novel, 'The Haymakers Survey' but this was pulled by wikipedia. The novel has now published see www.thehaymakerssurvey.com. Its available to buy in some hertfordshire bookshops. Can these details now be added to wikipedia - I would like to prepare a specific page on the project, for example. Advice please...

Chrissie

Take a look at WP:BK for notability guidelines for books. Also, because you have a conflict of interest as author of the book, you should wait for someone else to create an article about it. There is no rule against you doing it, but because of the COI it will come under intense scrutiny to avoid promotional content etc. Finally don't forget to sign your messages on talk pages and pages like this help page by adding 4 tildes (~) at the end. – ukexpat (talk) 17:55, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I did some research on the book and it very likely is not suitable for mention anywhere on Wikipedia. It appears to be self-published and unknown to the wider world with no substantive treatment in any independent sources. WorldCat has no mention of it, and Google returns a total of 9 hits, none of which show any notability. This does not mean the novel is not great and worthwhile. It does mean that it is not an encyclopedic subject, as an encyclopedia is a tertiary source, only containing entries and information on subjects the wider world has taken note of and published about.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:37, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

What is the procedure/policy on removing an external link that looks like advertising?

On the page string quartet in the "External Links" section, there is a link called "Official site of the Russian string Quartet SKAZ" and it is the only link of that kind on this page while at the same time there is already a page List of string quartet ensembles. Before this background I believe that the external link to SKAZ on the string quartet page should be removed. So, my question is, what is the procedure/policy to flag this for removal? thanks a lot in advance.

Passacaglia (talk) 08:04, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Simply be WP:BOLD and remove it. In the edit summary, explain why per external links. If you wish, you may follow up on the talk page to let other editors know. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 08:21, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

done, thank you. Passacaglia (talk) 13:08, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

How can i put an article up without it getting deleted

everytime i try and put an acticle up and it keeps getting taken down, dont know why though —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mario36 (talk • contribs) 17:51, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

It appears your article was deleted as it did not indicate why the subject was notable. The subject of an article must have coverage in reliable sources in order to have an article on Wikipedia. TN‑X-Man 17:55, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Have a look at Wikipedia:Your first article or Wikipedia:Starting an article (the latter is more detailed). Follow the steps carefully, paying special attention to the parts that mention notability and references. If you want to write an article that won't be nominated for deletion, you have to say why your subject is important enough to have an article in an enyclopaedia, and you have to back up the information you give by quoting reliable sources. If your article is about a living person, as yours is, then it's even more likely to be deleted if it doesn't meet the conditions. See Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. And finally, if the subject of your article is you, or somebody you know, then you are probably not the best person to be writing it. See here to learn about conflicts of interest. --Karenjc 21:21, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Proper licensing of a picture

I am attempting to update the wikipedia page on my boss, Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum, with his most recent official photograph. The photograph is published on our website at http://myfloridalegal.com/picture.html. The photograph is available for public use. I don't know which license to use when uploading it to his wikipedia page. Please advise. Thanks!

Sandi Copes, Press Secretary, Office of the Attorney General

Sandisea (talk) 12:50, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

The website you've linked to has a copyright notice on it, and I assume that "for public use" is not the same as "in the public domain". As a result, I would say that the image is not suitable for Wikipedia. If an image is not in the public domain, and has not been released with a free use license that is compatible with Wikipedia (such as the GFDL or some Creative Commons licenses), then it is considered non-free, and can only be used in conjunction with a rationale for why it is fair use. Note that the very first criterion for fair use on Wikipedia is "no free equivalent", which in the case of photos of living persons is always considered to fail since it is a relatively simple matter for someone to photograph the person and release the photograph under a free license.

So the quick answer is that probably none of the license tags listed on Special:Upload apply, and the image cannot be used on Wikipedia. However, that's not to say that a photo, with an appropriate free license, wouldn't be welcome - probably the easiest way to ensure that everything is done above board would be to take the photo yourself, and release it under, say, {{CC-BY-SA 3.0}}. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 00:15, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and I forgot to mention - first, thank you for putting in the effort, as productive contributors are always welcome, and secondly, just a reminder to take care when editing an article where you have a conflict of interest. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 00:17, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Where to start

For an absolute newcomer, where is the best place to start? eg minor edits, major edts etc?

Thanks

Vitumnus (talk) 05:33, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll start with the worst place to start, which is to go to an article with a controversial history and make broad, sweeping changes without discussing them with other editors. Such action, depending on the article chosen and editors involved, could lead to accusations of sockpuppeting, assumptions of bad faith, and blocking. You may want to work through the tutorial to get a feel for editing on Wikipedia, and then I think one of the best ways to find something to edit is to look for a WikiProject that interests you. A WikiProject will often have a list of articles that need to be created, or cleaned up, or referenced, or have images added, and you can see what you're good at. The other people in the project will also be able to help point you towards any particularly useful policies or guidelines - for example, a Wikiproject on a TV show would be able to give you the run-down on the current consensus about writing articles on episodes, or characters. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:46, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Kendall County Democrats

It should have been Kendall County not Kendallcounty, who do I fix my initial page?----Kendall County Dems (talk) 06:57, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Theoretically, you can go to Wikipedia:Changing username and make a request but it should be denied as your name violates our username policy in that it is promotional; your account (based on the statements on your userpage) is a role account and thus is not allowed, and your stated purpose of using Wikipedia as a "home page" with "further information will follow as events are created" is a purpose we cannot allow. Wikipedia cannot be used as a web host. For all these reasons I have blocked your account.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:54, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

why do changes disappear

I have been trying to update the info on a small time I lived in for 8 years and it disappears. I did so while being logged in. What happens here?. 29tomt (talk) 11:27, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Your edits to Hilliard, Florida are visible and have not disappeared, but I guess you have to bypass your cache to see them. If you click the "history" tab then you should also be able to see them. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:44, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

And please use edit summaries! – ukexpat (talk) 19:30, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Add Picture

How can I add a picture to an article? I have a picture of Little Walter Scott that could go on the page about him. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Scott_%28vocalist%29> Kevin J. Bob Katt Cox (talk) 17:27, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Your account needs to be four days old before you can upload files. After that you will see an "Upload file" link in the toolbox in the navigation pane to the left. The image must have a free licence for use on Wikipedia, be sure to place the appropriate licence template on the image page or it will get deleted as a copyright violation. There is a useful help page here Wikipedia:Uploading images. SpinningSpark 18:47, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Words ending in "gry"

There are 3 words in the english language ending in "gry". Namely: Hungry, Angry and ...?? what would be the 3rd word? please help 41.240.183.33 (talk) 12:14, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

You should normally ask knowledge questions at Wikipedia:Reference desk where there are many experts to help you, but this might be what you are looking for. SpinningSpark 12:28, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Also take a look at this and the link referenced therein. – ukexpat (talk) 13:35, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

We have an article about this puzzle: -gry. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:20, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Here's a great dictionary that uses wild cards like * and ? It's

http://www.onelook.com/

Putting in *gry, it gives, for ALL matches: aggry 2. angry 3. gry 4. hungry 5. puggry 6. unangry

But it's great for xword puzzles and other queries such as the one raised here. Don't ask me what puggry is 210.1.198.109 (talk) 03:10, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

making

how do you make a page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Remy14 (talk • contribs) 03:05, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

What I would do first is look for an article that has a red link. That means that it does not have an article yet. Then I would start creating it, whether the subject is notable or not. You can find out more information on this page. SchfiftyThree 03:12, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

However, if the subject is not notable, you'll find out soon enough when somone puts a deletion tag on it.If your going to create an article I would make a subpage first, then create your article there instead.When you think its good enough ask another editor to review it for you.If its all good, click create article and you'll be on your way. Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 16:01, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

The Zade effect

A very well-known disease throughout the gamers' community. It is highly contagious and relates to mental retardation. It can be easily passed through communication. It is a gradual process that eats away at your motor skills. Suddenly you have lost all hope of video games. Legend has it that the Zade effect is released when he is defeated. Sadly, it is hard to escape due to the fact, the subject does not shut the f**k up. THERE IS NO HOPE. RUN FOR YOUR LIFE.

Common Victims

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EnterName9391 Godfather BestplayerHere EVERY CLAN HES TOUCHED —Preceding unsigned comment added by EnterName9391 (talk • contribs) 06:04, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

This page is for getting help with editing and finding your way around Wikipedia. Do you have a question? PrimeHunter (talk) 11:30, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Why no article on "Gather.com"

I recently became a member of Gather.com, which invites writers and artists to publish and share material. I had a few concerns about them, and of course I turned to the trusty WP. Was I gob smacked to see that this huge organization had no article on it? I mean this is a place where tiddlywinks would get a dozen pages and a hundred links. Moreover, the google list does not seem to have any references to Gather which does not come from Gather itself. My main concern was that if I write for them, can they poach my stuff, and copyright and all that. Did someone warn WP that Gather was off-limits or what? They claim to have hundreds of thousands of members, and frankly, my cat has a page on WP. What gives? Myles325a (talk) 06:51, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Gather.com is my 3rd hit on google:gather.com. Is this not the site you refer to? PrimeHunter (talk) 11:27, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Well I swear! When I looked at the disambiguation page for gather less than 24 hours ago—and I looked at it at least half a dozen times—that reference to the internet site WAS JUST NOT THERE!!! Who is playing games with my family neuron? But thanks a lot, anyway! Myles325a (talk) 00:05, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

After my reply I saw the disambiguation page Gather‎ and added Gather.com to it. But honestly, I didn't do it to play games with you! But the idea reminds me of the introduction of "vanispamcruftisement". PrimeHunter (talk) 00:23, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Don't Mess With Texas

Don't Mess With Texas is a four-piece post-rock band from Zagreb, Croatia. The lineup includes Sasa Relic on guitar, Neven Kamenski on piano, Slobodan Alavanja on bass, and Ozren Mlinaric on drums. Since 2004, they have frequently toured Europe and the United Kingdom arousing the interest of many fans with genuine instrumental music that defies easy categorization. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xgoodmanx (talk • contribs) 12:43, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

This page is for assistance in using Wikipedia. Did you have a question, possibly about writing an article? TN‑X-Man 12:47, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Note Wikipedia:Notability (music) and Don't Mess with Texas#Unauthorized use of the trademark. I don't know Croatian trademark rules but note that Wikipedia servers are in USA and should abide by US law. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:53, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Legal Jargon- English><Spanish

201.208.39.152 (talk) 17:33, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

I just finish a Legal Jargon glosary. I wuld like it to be available in wikipedia. What do I have to do? Thanks Gustavo Nebreda

201.208.39.152 (talk) 17:36, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

I finished a Law Jargon Glossary English><Spanish. I would like it to be available in Wikipedia. What do I have to do?

                      Gustavo Nebreda

Well, Wikipedia is not a dictionary, or a translation service. It might be useful over on Wiktionary, although it may require the glossary to be licensed (or possibly sourced?) - I don't know what Wiktionary's rules are like. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:34, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

I am contesting the speedy deletion of my article and requesting assistance

I don't understand why my article on the show The Basement Sublet of Horror is being deleted.

It has a historical cross-reference with articles which are allowed, specifically Horror hosts, and Vampira.

Many, many specific horror hosts, including ones that are working today, have articles that evidently don't violate whatever it is I am violating.

Please contact me and let me know what I am doing wrong. My email address is <removed>.

I have been asked to make this entry by the creator of the show, Joel Sanderson. His email address is <removed>.

Thanks,

--Gil--Gil Bavel (talk) 08:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

There are many problems with the article. Since you've been explicitly asked to create the article, you should be aware of our conflict of interest guidelines. Also, your article contains no claim of notability and no evidence of such. Notability is a prerequisite for inclusion in Wikipedia. The article also is completely unsourced. Without reference to neutral third-party sources, the article is not verifiable. Such coverage in neutral sources would also go a long way towards establishing notability. Finally, the style is not encyclopedic, and the addition of contact information makes it look like an entry in a business directory, not an encyclopedic article. And FYI, contributions in article space are not signed. If you want to keep the article, you need to argue the case on Talk:The Basement Sublet of Horror and, more importantly, provide enough sources to convince people that a neutral encyclopedic article on the topic can be written. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 09:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

The article has survived a speedy deletion nomination, but that does not mean that it is safe from a nomination under the Afd procedure. I would take Gil's advice and work on the key aspects of notability, verifiability and sources, otherwise sooner or later someone will take it to Afd. – ukexpat (talk) 13:15, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

How to edit the title of my article

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. Caerlcionne (talk) 10:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I want to change the title of Kami naman into Kami Naman. How? (~'s)

You have to 'move' the page, go here to see how its done and you can learn yourself and you wont need any of us to do it. See, you learn things about wiki everyday:) But i just noticed you created your account today, normally you have to wait 4 days to be able to be able to rename pages so i have done it for you. Monster Under Your Bed ^{(talk 2 me)} 10:20, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I have fixed up the 2 articles you created now, i re-directed the original article with the 'n' to the one you created later with the correct spelling 'N' Hopefully your article wont get deleted:) Monster Under Your Bed ^{(talk 2 me)} 10:24, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

You should take some time to add some more detail and context to the article, in particular it has no indication of why the show is notable per WP:N and you need some reliable sources per WP:RS for verifiability per WP:V. As it stands, it is very likely that someone will nominate it for deletion per the Afd process. – ukexpat (talk) 13:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

New to Wikipedia - lost name in Wikipedia UPI

I am new to Wikipedia and went to United Press International "People of UPI," were my name was and tried to start a Wikipedia for my own name, "Ronald T. Bennett," I copied my web site information and tried to paste it in the new page. Wikipedia did not like that and not only cancel my name in The United Press International Wikipedia but would not let me finish. I typed a note on one of your editing help sections that I OK'd the copy from my web site. It still did not work. I guess I am not able to understand how to work this. Please help me. I would like my name back in the Wikipedia United press International "people of UPI and to open a wikipedia for my name, plus put pictures in it. How can I get this mess straightened out? Thanks Ron17:30, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

It sounds like you're trying to either create an article about yourself or add yourself to an existing article. Before you do, you may want to look over the conflict of interest guidelines. Generally, it's advisable to wait for someone else to start an article about you, instead of starting one yourself. TN‑X-Man 17:35, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Just to add to this, although Wikipedia doesn't prohibit people writing their autobiographies here, it is strongly discouraged. For more information on this topic, have a look at WP:AUTO, where you can find out about the reasons behind this and what you can do to help. In general though, there is a whole stack of information about Wikipedia's approach to biographies of living people at WP:BLP, which I'd really encourage you to read. You might also want to have a look at Wikiproject Photography, a team of editors dedicated to all things photographic. Hope this helps you out! Gazimoff ^Write_Read 17:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind help. It is appreciated. I will look at the photo section. I noticed that most of my friends are listed in Wikipedia photo section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.97.167.61 (talk) 17:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Changing page name from User:David556 to what I want the name of the page to be

I want to make a new page called Long Distance Post, LLC but I don't understand how to change the name of the page from User:David556 (my user page) to what I want the heading to be?

David556 (talk) 17:55, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

:David, you can request a username change at WP:CHU. Hope this helps, Gazimoff ^Write_Read 17:58, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Scratch that, totally misread the queation. You can move the page to it's new location by using the move tab at the top of your page. WP:MOVE has more information. Hope ths helps! Gazimoff ^Write_Read 18:00, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't want to change my username though per se, I simply want the article that I am writing to be called something other than my username. If I change my username, my article will still have the User: in front of the title. Basically, how do I take the User: away from the beginning of the title? —Preceding unsigned comment added by David556 (talk • contribs) 18:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

It sounds like you want to create an article named Long Distance Post LLC. Click on the red link I just provided and copy and paste the info from your user page. Good luck! TN‑X-Man 18:03, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Although copy-paste works, it removes all of the contribution history. While this is fine for articles you've only contributed on yourself, it's problematic when you have an article that several people have worked on. Using move instead of copy-paste is a really good habit to get into. It also means that we meet out obligations under the GFDL. Gazimoff ^Write_Read 18:10, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Per WP:Naming conventions (companies) articles about corporations do not normally include the "Inc", "LLC", "Ltd" etc. – ukexpat (talk) 19:12, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

That's great! Thanks a lot for the help! David556 (talk) 18:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, can you make me that link again, but with a comma after the Post to make it look like Long Distance Post, LLC David556 (talk) 18:07, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Long Distance Post, LLC. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 18:09, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

One last thing: I actually want the name of my page to be just Long Distance Post (without the LLC). Could you make me a link to that again please? :) Also, is it true that I can't upload pictures until the page has existed for 4 days? David556 (talk) 18:23, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

David, try Long Distance Post, but before you create the article, I urge you to read WP:CORP, WP:RS, WP:SPAM and WP:V -- dealing with notability, references, advertising and verifiability. You may want to think about creating the article as a subpage of your user page first, so you can work on it in stages, before moving it to the mainspace. – ukexpat (talk) 19:12, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Please help!

I am bad at this whole HTML thing and all, so could someone please help by creating a page for me called "International Roaming"? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by David556 (talk • contribs) 19:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

David, see WP:YFA#How to create a page – ukexpat (talk) 19:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh it's easier than I though. Thanks! David556 (talk) 19:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

notability

When an entry is done on a "notable" person, is there a discussion about notability that I may view between the person entering the information and the wikipedia editors? I have tried viewing the discussion and history page attached to the person's biography but there doesn't seem to be much of a discussion there. Wysiwygn (talk) 22:07, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Notability is done according to guidelines. There's a while stack of information on notability at WP:N, as well as specific information on notability of people at WP:BIO. Hope this helps, Gazimoff ^Write_Read 22:11, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Everybody who makes edits is considered a Wikipedia editor. There is rarely a notability discussion about a specific person before somebody creates an article. If somebody else thinks the subject doesn't satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (people) then they can post to the talk page, tag it with something like {{Notability}} or nominate it for deletion. This can lead to a discussion. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

(E/C) The process is that if an entry is clearly notable (meaning here, the subject of significant treatment in reliable sources), then you will never see any discussion; the article will just remain without question. If an article fails to even assert importance, much less show notability, then it may get tagged for speedy deletion (see e.g., {{db-bio}}, {{db-group}}, {{db-band}}, {{db-corp}}) and be quickly deleted with the only trace remaining being a tag notice typically posted on the creator's page informing them of the impending (or past) deletion, such as {{nn-warn}}, and the deletion log entry. The discussion of notability for those that fall in between will happen at articles for deletion (AfD), where the types of discussions I think you are looking for, occur. You can check out today's AfD page here, or to see some completed discussions, check out closed discussions here. If you do not believe a page is notable, you can seek to have it deleted yourself through the various deletion mechanisms we employ. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Adding Pachanga Cubana

Good evening. I wanted to know what procedures I need to follow to add a new entry, Pachanga Cubana, which is an annual networking event. I have numerous newspaper articles discussing the event and it has been held yearly, we held it four times in Michigan and twice here in Maryland. Thank you. (Otto Fisher (talk) 00:07, 18 June 2008 (UTC)).

You can fins out all about creating your first article at WP:YFA. You might want to be careful though and read through the information on conflicts of interest at WP:COI before you begin. Hope this helps! Gazimoff ^Write_Read 00:13, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Many new articles are deleted, often because they fail to provide an adequately verifiable claim of notability (which has a specific meaning on Wikipedia). You may also want to take a pre-emptive look at Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted? Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 00:46, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

New Article Won't Show Up in Google Search

Hello I'm a new user and I believe I created a page called Associated Leaders of Urban Debate however whenever I serach it on Google I cannot seem to find it on any page. When I search it on Wikipedia though it shows up. Please help me to figure out this problem. Maybe I've created it in a user page without knowing or something... I don't know I'm totally clueless.Areneewilson (talk) 21:03, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

You have correctly created the Wikipedia article. Google is not continually updated, but crawls the web and indexes new pages only as it encounters them. Just wait for a while, and it will pick the page up. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 21:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your help. I am very apprciative. Areneewilson (talk) 22:23, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Most articles would have shown up in Google after a week but it varies. Google has indexed the original at User:Areneewilson/ALOUD but currently not the article at Associated Leaders of Urban Debate. I don't know much about Google but there may be a risk that the existence of a user space copy could damage the article in search results. If you want User:Areneewilson/ALOUD to be deleted then you can place {{db-user}} or {{db-author}} on it. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:36, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Google finds the article now. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:31, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Where to post questions to a particular wikiproject?

Resolved

 – Correct Wikiproject identified --TN‑X-Man 14:56, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I would like to speak to the Biology wikiproject about something but couldn't find a page equivalent to this one, where I could just click and post a question. I didn't think it appropriate to use the Portal talk page. Please let me know where to go next. EatYerGreens (talk) 03:13, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

You could post your question on the talk page of the wikiproject biology. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 03:20, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Specifically here. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 03:20, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks for your help. (Didn't have to wait long, did I?) ;-) EatYerGreens (talk) 03:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Aggressive editing

I wrote a carefully considered contribion to greenhouse effect pointing to two deficiencies in the physics, a conflict with Second law of thermodynamics and possible error from location of the radiation surface. These matters have no research content nor do they represent a point of view. I placed and edit [[3]] on the 16 June explaing the nature of the conflict this edit was removed before I had time to read the new article. Since then I have engaged in discussion with KimDabelsteinPetersen the editor who removed my edit, I have explained the need for my edit and asked him to restore it. I have had similar discussion with William M. Connolley on my talk page and others on [[4]]

It appears that there may be some kind of lock on greenhouse effect. Possible reasons for this lock are persistant vandalism, checking the archives, they are quite small, seems to eliminate this reason

At present my edit remains deleted. My questions are; what can I do to restore my edit? Am I able to find out about locking of articles by editors?

Regards --Damorbel (talk) 08:03, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Two of Wikipedia's most important standards are Verifiability and No Original Research. Information on the encyclopedia needs to have Reliable Sources; if you are able to provide such sources (if you read the page Wikipedia:Reliable Sources, it will detail what is reliable and what is not), I'm sure that you will have a better argument for including your information in the article. I'd also suggest reading Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:No original research also, which may help you see where those disagreeing with you are coming from. -- Natalya 11:33, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

This is not a satisfactory answer at all, quite adequate links are given to standard texts on thermodynamics. Further, you have given no guidance at all on the reason why my post contribution was blocked, please respond on this matter or give me guidance about the blocking and what can be done about it. I take it Wikipedia wants contributions from people informed about thermodynamics?--Damorbel (talk) 12:19, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Your edit did not contain any sources. It also argues from fairly basic premises (and the argument is none to clear). As far as I can make out, you disagree with several well-sourced standard interpretations. If you want to do so, you need very reliable sources directly pertinent to the point in questions. Especially for a somewhat contentious topic like greenhouse effect that is a frequent target of vandalism and POV pushing, such changes will be quickly reverted. Quite apart from that your addition was a tacked-on bit of criticism, and it was not very clear if this referred to the article or the greenhouse effect itself. From a technical side, it does not seem that the article is currently protected. So you should be able to edit it - making your edits stick is a different point. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 12:44, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry to be but you aver that my contribution did not contain any sources. It contained a link to second law of thermodynamics a wikipedia article that is excellently sourced. You may not be familiar with thermodynamics but any proposal that breaches the 2nd law will quickly find its way into the perpetual motion category. Would an external link to a book published by MIT [5] be more acceptable? Is there any way I can get arbitration over this? You suggest trying to make my edits stick, does this mean a rather wacky POV will gain over a reasoned argument? Who do I have to satisfy? Thank you for your attention. --Damorbel (talk) 15:22, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles are not reliable sources. Please read and understand WP:RS. The second law of thermodynamics is a statistical law. Nobody claims that there is a net heat flow from the colder atmosphere to the warmer surface. But the re-radiation of infrared towards the surface slows the outwards heat flow, resulting in warming until the stronger radiation of a warmer planet balances the solar inflow again. But that is is my interpretation of the physics, and rather irrelevant. You would need to find sources that directly deal with the topic in question. Please see WP:OR and WP:SYN. The book you suggest, while hosted on an MIT server, is not published by MIT, but by Phlogiston Press. Anyways, given the expertise of the authors and the pedigree of the book, it looks like a good reliable source to me. It handles the greenhouse effect on pages 579-581, and in a manner that very closely mirrors our own article, with none of your reservations. You need to convince at least a sizable group of other editors that your changes have merit. Ideally you find consensus. If cannot directly solve a conflict, the way is dispute resolution, in this case probably starting with a request for comments. Arbitration is the last step in dispute resolution. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 15:54, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much--Damorbel (talk) 21:40, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Article submitted disappeared

I submitted an article titled "OneNeck IT Services" on June 11. It was a factual, referenced article that was consistent with other companies included in Wikipedia of its type. Plus, the company is notable as achieving repeatable, third-party endorsements.

In any event, it was immediately tagged as a proposed deletion. After reading tons of info to figure out how I dispute this proposal to delete, I removed the part of the content that included the deletion. (BTW, this is a very confusing process...info is abundant, but very difficult to get through to determine what to do...not very process-oriented...again IMO!).

The article disappeared very soon after I removed the deletion notes. I can't find any reference to it in the deletion archives or deletion discusssion groups.

Can you help me figure out what happened? Can you also indicate what the process is for getting this article listed again?

Thank you!

Sbcable (talk) 19:12, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

It appears that the article is still listed (OneNeck IT Services Corporation). It also appears to be duplicated on your user page. I hope this helps! TN‑X-Man 19:15, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the help. I tried to find it as before by typing in "OneNeck" then clicking index to see it on the list. There's a lot to learn here! I appreciate the quick response... Sbcable (talk) 21:25, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

REMOVING TAGS and GETTING VERIFIED

Hello,

I have edited a page by adding additional verifiable information, but I cannot figure out what to do to get the information verified and to get it untagged. Thank you. Teala1 (talk) 20:56, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

You might want to place an enquiry at WikiProject Schools, who can check the information and help you develop the article. Hope this helps! Gazimoff ^Write_Read 21:04, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

what to do with ascript of my aunts i found it is call 'something to sing about' its the second draft

66.238.104.106 (talk) 04:54, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

You left the default text here (removed) rather than typing out a question. Your headline is not enough for any targeted answer. Can you clarify? I will say that if you're speaking about writing an article on a not yet published draft of your aunt's writing, or posting it here, neither of those options will work. Articles must be about subjects that the wider world has recognized by publishing about in reliable sources.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 06:42, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

the simpsons

did terrance & phillip ever appear on the simpsons i sure they did and need to find out thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.81.69.132 (talk) 07:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried the Entertainment section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. -- Natalya 11:21, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I highly doubt it. However, there is an episode of South Park called Simpsons Already Did It, where some Simpsonsesque characters appear in South Park. It's a very good episode.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:33, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Creating a Page

I would like to create a page on Wikipedia about a Cyprus based peace effort called Tech4Peace. Can you please help me? Thank you. larisimoLarisimo (talk) 10:33, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. -- Natalya 11:22, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

May I get help to learn geman language by Wikipedia?

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. Masood008 (talk) 17:49, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't really a very good place to learn a language: we're an encyclopedia, not a school or a do-it-yourself guide. Wikibooks has a textbook. I don't know how complete it is, or if it's any good. Algebraist 17:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Articles - advertising

I was browsing on Wikipedia today and noticed that many of our competitors have articles on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staples_Inc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OfficeMax http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Depot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Supply_Headquarters http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W.B._Mason

I would like the company I work for to have a Wiki site but I want to make sure it is not considered spam and then deleted. How do I do this?

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MonoMachines (talk • contribs) 21:34, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

All the information you need about creating your first article can be found at WP:YFA. Please be aware though that Wikipedia has guidelines about working on articles where you may have a conflict of interest, which you can find at WP:COI. Finally, corporations have to demonstrate that they are notable in order to warrant inclusion. WP:CORP has a stack of information on this. Any more questions, feel free to ask! Gazimoff ^Write_Read 21:51, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

First, you should read the conflict of interest guidelines which essentially state that it's a bad idea for you to create or edit an article about a subject that you're closely involved with. It's probably best that you wait until someone else creates an article about the company and discuss it on the article talk page if you have suggestions for adjustments. Having said that, the companies you mention above are all major established chains that meet our notability requirements for businesses - they've all been covered extensively in media outlets, for example. Take a look at the guidelines and consider whether the company meets them. Tony Fox (arf!) 21:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Immediately after you read WP:CORP, please read WP:SPAM - articles are not vehicles for corporate promotion. – ukexpat (talk) 22:08, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Use of seasons to indicate dates

Please suggest to all contributors that they refrain from using seasons to indicate the timing of events. It seems to us in the soutern hemisphere that many in the north (and particularly in the United States) fail to realise that the seasons are reversed between the hemispheres. Thus, when someone states that an event occurred 'in the spring of 20nn', they presumably mean some time during the months of March, April and May. This in fact is the autumn (or 'fall' if you must) in the southern hemsiphere. Surely an encyclopedia would wish to avoid the confusion that this careless and hemsiphere-centric use of language can create. 203.49.148.66 (talk) 00:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

At times, however, a more specific date is difficult to pinpoint, and some sources do use this sort of nomenclature. I can understand your frustration, but as a site-wide rule I'm not sure if that suggestion is practical (precision when possible is something to strive for, but it's not always possible). Presumably any season mentioned in an article should be the season relevant to that locale -- an article about New Zealand which mentions "summer" would refer to New Zealand's summer, I should hope. – Luna Santin (talk) 00:39, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Funnily enough, the use of seasonal terms is already advised against in the Manual of Style. Unfortunately it's such a big document (and "only a guideline") that I suspect most casual editors haven't read it. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 02:40, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

What is "unnotable per"

Hi, I've been tagged with a delete notice, for "unnotable per - wp:nn". I've clicked on the link but still couldn't figure out what does "unnotable per" mean. Please explain. Thanks.

--Lpoon (talk) 08:54, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

The editor who placed the tag thinks that the article fails to meet the Wikipedia:Notability guideline. In order to make sure that the article gets kept, you need to prove that the subject is notable by finding some reliable sources that you can reference in the article. This might be something like a newspaper article about the toy. If you are able to do this, you can remove the deletion notice and you should explain why you have done it on the article talk page. Please do not do this if there are not reliable sources, the article will still get deleted, you will have jsut put other people to more trouble.

Also, you seem to have two articles about the same thing: Dunny by kidrobot and Dunny kr. You should only have one article but you can have alternative names. To do this you create a redirect. Remove all of the content of the "Dunny kr" article and place it in "Dunny kidrobot". Then write #redirect [[Dunny kidrobot]] in the "Dunny kr" article (and nothing else). Then when anyone types Dunny kr in the search box they will go to Dunny kidrobot.

Hope you can find some references. SpinningSpark 10:43, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

The brief info box located on the right side of articles

Hello,

I am relatively new to the community and am wondering how to create that info box that I see on many articles. Sometimes it contains a logo but is usually a summary of quick info. I do not know what it is called in order to search for the "how to". Any help here would be appreciated.

Thanks. Marie (talk) 17:37, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello and welcome! There are dozens of different infoboxes, all for use in different situations. You can find a list of them all at WP:IB, although there's also a WikiProject (a team of editors) that specialises in woking on them, who you can find at WP:INFOBOX. Basically, pick the box that you need and follow the insttructions on the page on how to use it in your article. Hope this helps! Gazimoff ^Write_Read 17:53, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Click the "edit this page" tab at top to see which infobox an existing article uses, and how it uses the infobox. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:13, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Signatures and User Names

1. I do not understand the difference between a signature and a username, and why there is a provision for the use of a signature to sign edits, etc., when the username would suffice.

2. How does an unregistered user choose a signature? Is one chosen for him?

3. Why would anyone who is not a registered user need to type the four tildes when, supposedly, Wikipedia identifies the user by his IP address anyway?

For example, if I type 75.80.42.19 (talk) 06:15, 22 June 2008 (UTC) , my IP address immediately appears. However, it would eventually appear regardless of whether I type those four tildes because this is how Wikipedia tracks its editors. So what's the point of typing them if I'm not a registered user? (I understand the part about the benefits of being a registered user -- that the IP address is masked, etc. I'm not asking about that. I'm asking this question from the standpoint of someone who isn't yet convinced that he should be registered.)

1. A signature is where, by typing ~~~~, you say that you made a particular comment on a talk page. A username is a unique name that identifies you on Wikipedia.
   If you use a signature instead of just typing out your username, the signature will link to your user page (e.g. my user page is User:Tra) and talk page which is helpful if people want to find out more about you or contact you. Unregistered users do not have user pages, so your signature links to your contributions page instead, which is a list of all of the edits made by you (or other people with access to your computer or network) to articles.
2. The signature for an unregistered user links to your contributions page and talk page. This cannot be changed unless you log in.
3. By using the history tab, it is possible to find the IP address or username of the person that made each comment. However, this is often time-consuming, so as a courtesy to help distinguish between contributers, signatures are used directly on the page when making comments. Tra (Talk) 08:39, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

A signature also adds the time which is often practical to know for the reader. For example to see whether it's part of an ongoing discussion, and in which order it was posted compared to other posts which are not always added below all existing posts. See more about signatures at Wikipedia:Signatures. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:55, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay. These comments are helpful to me. I appreciate your responses. 75.80.42.19 (talk) 13:56, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll also add that I had thought that the IP address was automatically added right next to the comment itself. I learned from reading these responses that they are not, and that it must be researched from looking at the history page. As Tra advised, this in itself provides real justification for signing a comment from the point of view of saving time. Thank you both for your responses. 75.80.42.19 (talk) 13:59, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

There is also SineBot, who watches a lot of pages and automatically signs comments on them if the user forgets to. However, it's not perfect, and it's only meant to be for those occasions you forget to sign, not to always do it for you. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:42, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

First Article Help

Hello Everyone! I just created my first article, Sit Back Relax, but I'm not exactly sure how to reference it. I would also like to get it up to a start level article in about a month or so. Does anyone have any tips regarding how to get more information? Do you think I should contact the company and tell them that I'd like some more information for a Wikipedia article? This is the only thing that I could think of. Thanks!!! Mike MAP91 (talk) 14:26, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

I have fixed it to the best of my extent. However, it may still be deleted. I suggest that you try to rewrite it less like an advertisement. Other then that, I think it's ok.  Mm40 (talk | contribs)  14:38, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the fix Mm. I tried to change the way I worded some things to make it less like an ad. Do you have any more tips? I think it could be a good article, as I do see these chairs everywhere. Thanks again!

Mike MAP91 (talk) 15:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Film posters

I'm still not clear on this. I have a file of low res film posters. What are these considered: free, fair, or not at all? I don't wan't to upload any if they can't stay. Also, can one down-resample a normal res poster and then use it? Mike P ^(WHAT?) 17:56, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

I believe at least some of them can be used, under fair use guidelines (I would read that page for some background, if you haven't already). For background, take a look at Image:The Matrix Poster.jpg, which appears to have all the information you'd need if you were to upload a similar image. Template:Non-free poster is also applicable. -- Natalya 23:02, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Rude comment by administrator

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. Tallgirl721 (talk) 02:30, 23 June 2008 (UTC) How do I find out why an administrator wrote something "rude" about my child? It was under the category First Colonial High School - it was added as a footnote and I deleted it. You might be able to check history to see the most recently deleted footnote. Thank you ---- please notify me on my talk page.

Firstly, the comment wasn't added by an administrator. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that anyone can edit. This can mean that sometimes articles are vandalised, although many editors do their best to keep them clean from this kind of material. I have left a note on the talk page of the person who added the comment, stating that if they continue with this they will be blocked from editing. I hope this helps, although if you have any further questions please feel free to ask. Many thanks, Gazimoff ^Write_Read 02:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Where can I learn all the tricks of writing with wiki?

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. Coffsneeze (talk) 02:48, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

To me, wiki looks so much like html, yet it has some confusing jargon like what are the /, {, }, and == for? I want to master writing in wiki, so I can edit easier.Coffsneeze (talk) 02:48, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

You can find a ton of information to start you off at Help:Wikitext examples. From that page, you should find pages with more advanced information. Of course, if you ever get stuck you can always ask us here. Hope this helps!Gazimoff ^Write_Read 02:56, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Cheatsheet for a quick guide to some of the commonly used markups. Probably the most commonly used are [[ ]] around a word to make it into a link, and == == around a line to make it into a section heading. --ais523 14:41, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd like to merge my 2 accounts

How can I merge my 2 accounts? I live on Planet Art (talk) 02:24, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

How do you mean? Are you referring to two accounts on Wikipedia? or do you have an account on another wikimedia project, such as WikiQuote? If it's the latter, you may want to check out the pages on Single Unified Logon at WP:SUL. Gazimoff ^Write_Read 02:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

How I mean is that I have 2 useraccounts for Wikipedia. I remembered that I had an account before I signed up with this one, I tried a few usernames that did not work as I could not remember the username. So I signed up with another. Later I realized that I created an article under the first username so I visited that article to see what my username was as I am able to get around Wikipedi better now after having a little more experience using it. I don't see any purpose for keeping 2 usernames. My names are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:I_live_on_Planet_Art and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Abstractartpainting. I'd like them to me merged. I like the name "I live on Planet Art better than the other name so I'd like the old account to be merged into that one. I suppose my alter ego could take over one and behave badly...and that might be entertaining to everyone...but I don't think that will be good for me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by I live on Planet Art (talk • contribs) 14:23, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't think that's possible with the current software. I'd advise you to redirect the userpage and talkpage from the account you don't want to use to the account that you do want to use, and mention the fact that you've used the other account in the past on the one remaining userpage. --ais523 14:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh GOODY, that's a reason to learn a piece of new code :) THANKS! —I live on Planet Art (talk) 14:41, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

The China Guide

The China Guide

The China Guide is a western owned and managed tour operator based in Beijing China. The company was founded by Peter Danford a professional photographer. Peter has a bachelor's degree in Computer Science from Macalester College in St. Paul, Minnesota and a master's in East Asian Studies/Chinese Language from the University of Minnesota. Peter has worked for Xerox in the USA, Sun Microsystems in Australia and Chinadotcom in Hong Kong in the 1980's and 90's.

The China Guide strives to offer a more independent experience for travelers in China avoiding overpriced shopping markets where the guides get a percentage of tourists spending.

There most famous tour is "The Sleep on the Great Wall of China Tour" which offers the more adventurous tourist a unique once in a lifetime experience. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Enwinter (talk • contribs) 02:41, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Is there a question in there? Paragon12321 (talk) 02:23, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Addition of Text and Pictures on Colaba Observatory

I have permission from Prof. Archana Bhattacharyya, the Director of the Institute, to add material on the Colaba Observatory from the Institute’s website. In an Email he stated the following:

“If yes, you may go ahead and copy the information from our website with acknowledgement.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colaba_Observatory

Source Page: http://iigm.res.in/iigweb/index.php/185 http://iigm.res.in/iigweb/index.php/index.php?page_id=1313

How do I code this into Wikipedia?

Michael Ronayne (talk) 14:53, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, it's a little more complicated than just getting permission. Firstly, text on Wikipedia is licensed under the GFDL, which means that to include more than a couple of fair use quotes in an article (i.e to a significant chunk of the article on text from their website), the copyright holder will have to agree to license it under the GFDL as well - and that allows for *anyone* to take that text, and do almost anything they like with it, as long as they release the derivative works under the GFDL as well. Pictures are the same, except that there are a couple of licenses available, including the GFDL (which is a bit more unwieldy with pictures than text) and CC-BY(-SA), which operates under fairly similar conditions (anyone can copy and modify, as long as they give attribution, and for -SA they have to release under a similar license as well). Assuming that the copyright holders at Colaba are actually OK with that (and if you ask them, it may be a good idea to point out that the "almost anything" includes commercial use, as that's what often throws people), then here's what you'll want to do:

1. Get the text and pictures up - the text on Wikipedia somewhere (probably the article itself, or somewhere on the talk page to start with maybe), and the pictures on Wikimedia Commons (you'll have to register your account there, or use Special:MergeAccount here to give you a universal login). Commons has a reasonably good uploading wizard to use.
2. Forward the emails in which the copyright holders expressly agree to license the text and images under the appropriate licenses to the OTRS queue - permissions-en@wikimedia.org should do for both (unless someone wants to correct me).
3. Tag the submissions as "permissions sent to OTRS".
4. Wait for an OTRS worker to add a ticket number to verify that the permissions are correct.

However, there are other issues if you're going to use text verbatim from the website. The first is that it's likely to be written in a non-neutral point of view, so it will need to be rewritten anyway, and the second is that people may question its verifiability, given that it doesn't come from a third-party source. So for the text, it may be better to use text from the website more as a partial source for information in the article that you write in your own words, preferably with a couple of other sources to back it up that aren't directly associated with the observatory (e.g. newspaper articles, maybe some research papers?). That way, the original text doesn't have to be relicensed, but your contribution is automatically GFDL (per the disclaimer you see every time you edit a page) and much more likely to pass NPOV and V (especially if a few other editors check it over). Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 00:25, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Help, My new article got lost or deleted

Please help me replace the article I wrote on George Francis Stephens, sculptor and Co-Founder of Arden, Delaware (or Frank Stephens, sculptor etc...)

I wrote it on the "writing an Article" section, saved it, but then it came up with "writing an Article" as the heading, so I tried to move it to a new title and it might have gotten deleted by your program because of the "writing an Article" connection.

Please can you help me retrieve it, I work hard on it. I will check "my talk". Fonebone33 (talk) 17:23, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

It's at: George Francis "Frank" Stephens - probably not the best title though. – ukexpat (talk) 18:10, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

what is my first step to edit images or text after after loggin ?

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. Caroline33 (talk) 17:44, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Click the [edit] tab at the top of the article. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 17:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Khurshid Anwar Jilani

Khurshid Anwar Jilani born September 4 1904 Zeera, India. Author, poet, radio talk show writer, and a philanthropist. Earned his Bachelor's degree in 1934 from the University of the Punjab, Lahore, graduated from the Law College Lahore.

Authored "flora neelofer", "chughatta", "do musafir" and "anvarat", besides his enormous translations of Masnavi Maulana Room and Rubatayet Omar Khayam, from Persian to versified Urdu and English, Bhukshu ki dua and other non-fiction "reportaz" works. He created and narrated famous Radio programs "jis desh mein ganga behti hay", "baname haq o insaf" (United Nations reports on Indian genocides in Kashmir), "pindi ki shikar gaheN", "kallar kahar", "kala pahaR", "islam ka aftab chamka" and "aatishe namrood", to name a few of his numerous contributions to literature and art.

As a Trustee, rehabilitating the refugees from India, immediately after the greatest human migration of mankind, 1947, he came across hundreds of thousands of published and unpublished books and manuscripts, and other works of arts, left behind by the immigrants. Extremely rare and invaluable hand written and miniature illustrated works like "shanama-e-firdausi", "tuzke babri" , "gulisatne saadi", "rubayate omar khayam", hand written bibles, korans and other books, were being dumped and spilling out as garbage from a big room in the Rawalpindi Court House. With the donation of a large building, and approval from the then Deputy Commissioner, Major Davis, he founded the "Rawalpindi Public Library", the first public library established in Pakistan in 1948, saving the priceless literature and artifacts from destruction.

He died of throat cancer February 28 1963 Rawalpindi, Pakistan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pindival (talk • contribs) 22:46, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

It looks like you're posting articles here, while this page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. If you're wondering about how to create an article, take a look at Wikipedia:Your first article, but especially with articles about people, you need to be sure that they meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for people, and also follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. -- Natalya 00:22, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Tahir Mahmood Jilani

Tahir Mahmood Jilani, Major, 4/24th Punjab Regiment, 4 Army Aviation Squadron. Born 1942 Ferozepur, India. Graduated from the Gordon College and Pakistan Military Academy's 23rd long course. A fun loving sportsman, joined the aviation corps of the army.

Missing since June 27th 1970, on a search and recovery mission for a drowned officer of the army. His mission; to search and locate the body over the raging waves of the mighty river Indus near Kalabagh, flying low his L-19 Bird Dog aircraft with Observer Officer, Captain Noor. Bodies, or the aircraft wreckage has never been found. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pindival (talk • contribs) 23:03, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

(Same comment as in the previous section) It looks like you're posting articles here, while this page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. If you're wondering about how to create an article, take a look at Wikipedia:Your first article, but especially with articles about people, you need to be sure that they meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for people, and also follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. -- Natalya 00:23, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Morgan Featherstone.

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. Fashungal (talk) 00:21, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Do you have a specific question? The article Morgan Featherstone may be of help to you. This page is for asking questions about using and editing Wikipedia; if you have a factual question, you should ask it at one of Wikipedia's Reference Desks. -- Natalya 00:25, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Adding acceptable content and links to existing page.

I'm working on a journal publication entitled 'Diabetic Hypoglycaemia', which covers background information and new research. As there is a Wikipedia page by the same title, we would like to add a few lines relating to the publication and/or a link to it. However, I would firstly like to confirm if this is acceptable under Wikipedia's codes of practice. As its a reputable scientific publication, we don't want to risk being guilty of any 'spamming'. Thanks...

Rdrake7000 (talk) 12:43, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Do you mean you want to add a link to the publication as a reference, as an external link, or as something else? Depending on what exactly you want to do, these links may be of varying amounts of help, but you might take a look at Wikipedia:Spam, Wikipedia:External links, and Wikipedia:Reliable sources. If those don't help, though, please do clarify what you're considering, so that we can help! And thanks for trying not to be spam. :) -- Natalya 13:34, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Study of physics

[[Media: 
 + Why do we study physics? How does it affect our daily lives?

~n~a~y~a~—Preceding unsigned comment added by Alkeallies (talk • contribs)

Have you tried the Science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. -- Natalya 13:35, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Rich Snitch Racing

<text of misplaced article removed>.—Preceding unsigned comment added by RussHondaCRX (talk • contribs)

Please sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). Also, what is your question?  Mm40 (talk | contribs)  18:49, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello. This page is for asking question about using Wikipedia. If you are trying to create the article you posted, this is not the way to do it. Please see Wikipedia:Your first article for some instructions about article creation. Having looked at the text I also suggest you take a look at Wikipedia:Notability. I do not think this article does or can meet the standard.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:03, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

How to change a picture and the spelling of the persons name.

Stefanie Schaeffer's name is spelled with and E and I can't correct it in the headline. Plus, the picture of her needs to be changed and I can't seem to do it. I work for her management company and she wants a different picture posted.

Thank you,

Noahbug (talk) 19:23, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

• I moved the page to the correct spelling. You should edit the article to correct it where mentioned (see WP:EDIT). For the image please see WP:UPI Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 20:29, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I've changed all occurrences of "Stefanie" to "Stefani" which seems correct based purely on Google hits alone (both spellings seem to be widely used, as are different spellings of "Stefani"), and redirected Stefanie Schaeffer to the article. I have, however, put the image back in until there is a viable alternative as a sensible image is better than none at all. If you have an image that could be put into the article, then view WP:UPLOAD which gives details on uploading a new image. Also, please read our conflict of interest policy as you work for her management company. Regards, x42bn6 Talk Mess 20:31, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

image delete

How can I remove an image from the database that is non-free and I did not end up using it in an article?Mike P ^(WHAT?) 14:10, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

(I uploaded it)Mike P ^(WHAT?) 14:11, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Put {{db-author}} on its image description page and an administrator will delete it for you. (There's a db-tag for each possible reason for a speedy deletion; uploading an image/creating a page by mistake, like you've done here, is db-author. See WP:CSD for more information about speedy deletion.) --ais523 15:00, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

My account name disappeared from an article's history

My name was "Westernscribe" until I was unable to sign in under that name and had to create both and new login and a new name.

I say that to explain my new signature, which, I hope, will appear below.

My question is why the name under which I substantially rewrote an article has disappeared from the history page. The article is "William C. Marland," a deceased governor of West Virginia, and a Democrat.

I rewrote it because the article that appeared until approximately March of this year was, in my view, distorted and false.

Although I do not lack bias, I wanted to attempt to create a fuller picture, for now, in the hopes that others will help. It is now rated as a "Start Class."

The previous article seemed to have had many contributions by someone named "Youngamerican." Now, what seems to be a version of that name appears in the history page, and my name has disappeared.

"Youngamerican" has written several articles on West Virginia Republicans.

Thanks for your help.

Westernscribenew (talk) 16:12, 25 June 2008 (UTC).

Hi, I've just looked at the William C. Marland article and the editor name Westernscribe does appear in the edit history for the article. Have a look here. Hope that helps, Nk.sheridan   Talk 16:18, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Nk. I must be more confused than usual, this morning. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Westernscribenew (talk • contribs) 16:24, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Questions

How do I start a page? How do I request a page be unprotected? Please notify me on my talk page.Gothic Serenity (talk) 16:32, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Responding on talk page as requested. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:13, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Biography article duplicate name different person

I've just finished an article on a politician of significance locally in the state, and I've found that a filmmaker has the same name. I created the article in my user account page, and want to go live with it. But I'm stuck now on how to create a new page with the person's name, because that page title already exists for the filmmaker. And in going live, am I redirecting the page in my user account or is there some other way to go live that I can't seem to figure out? Oaklandishgirl (talk) 04:10, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

There are two things you can do. If the two people are of roughly equal notability, you create a disambiguation page at the original title, after moving the original article to a disambiguated title. You move the article on your userpage to another disambiguated title (I have moved it to John A. Russo (politician), for example. But if one person is of dramatically greater notability, he keeps the title, and you put one of the otheruses templates at the top of his article. I have done the second option for you, as John A. Russo the director is far more notable. Also, there is no way to move your userpage to a new title without leaving a redirect, except for copy pasting to a new title. But the redirect is easy enough to remove after the fact, which I have done in this case. Someguy1221 (talk) 04:32, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

How to edit a page with 2 separate/distinct types of notability with disambiguation

How should content be added to a page that has two different types of notability? For instance: a term of an art movement or style that is also a proper name of a group. Please see Urban_art

The info here talks about a group of people, not about Urban Art as it applies to art. How can one edit this page to define the term "Urban Art" as it applies to art with disambiguation? I live on Planet Art (talk) 23:20, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I live on Planet Art (talk) 23:23, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

PS my question here is marked for vandalism...I live on Planet Art (talk) 23:29, 25 June 2008 (UTC) This kind of thing keeps happening...I am not sure how. Please help with this problem as well.

Hi, I am not sure about the vandalism issue you refer to but as regards disambiguation of Urban Art. Please have a look at WP:D and perhaps create a disambiguation page for Urban Art as this single term may refer to more than one topic (i.e. the art movement and the group). Cheers, Nk.sheridan   Talk 23:33, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi, as regards the vandalism issue. I can't find anything about this! Could you provide more detail? Thanks, Nk.sheridan   Talk 23:39, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you I will look at that page on disambiguation. As far as the vandalism issue, some of the the tags have disappeared now. Maybe someone is just playing with me? It's strange but I'm sure some admin will help eventually. Look at my page and you can still see some http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/I_live_on_Planet_Art I live on Planet Art (talk) 12:16, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Stephen L. Fowler

President, Fowler Associates, Inc. a forensics, testing, training & consulting company.

Publisher: The ESD Journal, an on-line trade magazine for the ESD Industry.

Publisher: The RAD Journal, an on-line trade magazine for the Radiation Industry.

U.S. Air Force Veteran- 1960's

Electrical Engineer - University of South Carolina - 37 years experience.

International expert in Electrical Engineering, Radiation, Electrostatics, and Packaging.

Consultant to the international news media on "Radiation Poisoning of the Russian Spy", "Auto Refueling Fires" and "Electrocutions in the Street", to name a few.

Holder of several patents, member or past member of the ASTM, EIA, ESD Association AATCC and the Health Physics Society, Chairman of the Electroin Industries Association's Packagaing ESD Committee (PEPS).

North Carolina registration # S000317 & South Carolina registration # 00-0216 to provide radiation consultation and training .

Certified ESD Control Engineer

Registered Radiation Protection Technologist (NRRPT)

Registered Radiation Safety Officer (IRRSO) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Radexpertesd (talk • contribs) 17:21, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Is there a question in there? If you want to create an article for Mr. Fowler, you should check out WP:Your First Article. Paragon12321 (talk) 21:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

James Sullivan

James Sullivan (born May 20, 1985) is a young long distance runner from Rathfarnam, County Dublin. He is one of the up and coming young athletes in Ireland. Most recently he has been seen running in the Great Ireland Run in the Phoenix Park Dublin, posting an impressive time of 45 minutes over 10km. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wopo99 (talk • contribs) 21:47, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Is there a question in there? If you want to create an article for Mr. Sullivan, you should check out WP:Your First Article. Paragon12321 (talk) 21:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Help unmarking vandalism tag mistakes

I marked my post for vandalism by mistake using Twinkle...how do I unmark them? I live on Planet Art (talk) 13:16, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Note: when I posted this question I did it again... I don't understand how I am doing this? Please help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by I live on Planet Art (talk • contribs) 13:19, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Can anyone else see the vandalism marks? Is there a way to see if I put them there myself by mistake or if someone else did it? If so can I report them? If I did it by mistake how can I remove them? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/I_live_on_Planet_Art I live on Planet Art (talk) 21:55, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I am still having a problem with this. This problem is unresolved at this time. Any help/explanation is appreciated as this is still a mystery to me. I live on Planet Art (talk) 14:10, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

It is a little unclear exactly what the problem is. Please indicate which article or page you are referring to. Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 16:37, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Edits to Walking

Afternoon

I have just edited a page (Walking) for the first time. I have come back to the page after a few hours and the edits are still not showing. I can't find any information about how long it takes for edits to show on pages. Could you let me know how long it take sto show up?

Kind Regards Walkengland (talk) 13:12, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello Walkengland. Edits show up on pages pretty much immediately. I checked the history of the page you edited and this shows that your edits were reverted by User:Mkeranat. Although I don't know the reason for this (you'd have to ask Mkeranat), I imagine it was because your edits were deemed to be promotional. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, and is not to be used for advertising puropses. Please have a look over Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. --BelovedFreak 18:51, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Willbrook Solutions

Willbrook Solutions was founded in 2006 to provide the defense and aerospace industries comprehensive system engineering and test & evaluation services.

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Is there something with which we can help you? TN‑X-Man 13:35, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

three-edit/revert rule

I searched for three-edit/revert rule at Search en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk then tried again leaving out the word rule. In both cases, I got "did not match any documents". Where can I find out what the "three-edit/revert rule" is? Please notify on my talk page if possible. RHB100 (talk) 18:47, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

The policy you're after can be found at WP:3RR. Hope this helps! Gazimoff ^Write_Read 18:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

How can non-images be deleted? Should non-referenced/non-footnoted long paragraphs be deleted?

Article on "Donald De Lue" needs to have two non-images deleted. Someone tried to add images, but the images don't show up on the page. How does one delete such non-images? Maybe it needs to be done by and Administrator? Also, the ending paragraph of the article is long, with no references. What should be done with it and similar paragraphs on other pages. Should it/such paragraphs be deleted? Thanks for your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayapota (talk • contribs) 00:00, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

I just deleted the images. As far as the long uncited paragraph you can a) search for information to verify it b) tag it as unreferenced and if after some time no citations are provided then you can delete it. But you cannot apply this as a general rule because sometimes facts are common knowledge and don't need an inline citation or are covered in other articles with suitable citations. Dr.K. (talk) 01:15, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Adding a new PDF Document.

For a project on which I am working, I needed a copy of this 150 year British paper which is not available on line.

An account of the construction of the self-recording magnetographs at present in operation at the Kew Observatory of the British Association. by Balfour Stewart, 1859

The only copy in the United States was in too degraded a condition, so I located a British library that had a paper copy and paid them to make a PDF copy which is uploaded here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:BAssoc1859pp200-228.pdf

I have two questions.

1. Did I complete the copyright disclosure information correctly? 
2. I do not appear to be able to access and display the PDF document.

I am getting a message that the file transfer timed-out.

The PDF document will be used here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photography#Technical_photography

Michael Ronayne (talk) 18:23, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

We only really upload images (and sound files) on Wikipedia; you don't have to upload something you want to use as a source in an article, presuming that that is what you want to do with that PDF file. It's good that you were able to get a copy of the paper, but if you want to use it as a reference in the article Photography, you need only cite it. Does that help? As a side note, when I go to the page, I can click on the file and access it - the PDF opens. -- Natalya 23:44, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for testing access to the PDF I uploaded. I have found that “Save Target As” works but any attempt to open the PDF directly fails. Once the PDF is downloaded to my disk drive it can be opened. I tried accessing the PDF without logging in and obtained the same results. I found the same problem when using IE7 or IE6. I suspect that there is a problem between the way the PDF is stored in Wikipedia and my PDF plug-in in IE.

What browser are you using?

Michael Ronayne (talk) 13:35, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm using Opera. -- Natalya 14:40, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

It's the sheer size of the file that is giving difficulty to some browsers. Wikipedia is not really designed to serve up 6MB files over the net. I am surprised the server let you upload it! You still have not said why you need to upload. If there are images in it you want to use you should do a snapshot and just upload that. SpinningSpark 18:16, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Oscar "Astro" Browne

Biography of Oscar “Astro” Browne

Oscar “Astro” Browne was born in the Village of Brown Hill on July 16, 1970

• Competed in the Junior Calypso Competition in 1987 and 1988. Placed second runner up in 1988.

• Started competing in the Senior Calypso Competition in 1997 until present.

• Second runner up in 2000 with songs Tourism-De True Picture and

Temptation.

• Second runner up in 2004 singing songs Worker’s Plight and De Price.
• First runner up in 2007 singing songs Calypso Prostitute and Dog Fight.

• Calypso Monarch 2003-- Tunda and Love of Country.

• Calypso Monarch 2006 --Dey Coming Back Again and Fire In We Cricket.

• Competed in the Leeward Islands Calypso Competition in 2003 and 2006

• Competed in the World Calypso Competition in Trinidad and Tobago in 2006 making it all the way to the Finals.

• Performed in Dominica on the Calypso Finals in 2004.

• Performed at the opening ceremony for the new Warner Park Cricket Stadium in 2005.

• Nominated for the Palm Awards (Our version of the Grammies) in 2001 and 2004. • Astro’s greatest calypso influences are Black Stalin and David Rudder of International fame and King Binghi of local fame. Astro also credits King Binghi ,Crieghton Crusader Pencheon, family friends and fans for his success in the Calypso arena. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brownhilldread (talk • contribs) 15:48, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

This is a page where new users can ask questions and get help with editing and using Wikipedia. It is not the place to create articles. If you want to create an article for Oscar Browne, you should check out WP:Your First Article. --Karenjc 16:09, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

location of image files

I am having trouble getting an image file-that I have uploaded successfully--to the proper destination. It is a logo, and I can't figure out how to make it appear on the page of the article about the organization. It keeps appearing only on it's own page, called Image:[file name].png

Help !

Asunto451 (talk) 17:35, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

You seemed to be going about things the right way: the problem was that you'd uploaded the logo three times, giving it a different name each time, but the image name you were trying to paste in on the page didn't match. A good tip is to visit your image page and cut-and-paste its title into the correct spot on your article page, to ensure they match exactly.

I visited Business Alliance for Local Living Economies and pasted the image name Business_Alliance_for_Local_Living_Economies.png‎ into the line you'd created to hold the logo box. It seems fine now - was this the source of the problem? --Karenjc 19:17, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

new article

i wrote a new article: 'script theory' and when i access it now it shows the first line of my text with a broken-line box around it and then omits the rest of the paragraph and jumps to the second paragraph. please notify my talk page Wran (talk) 19:33, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Replied on talk page. TN‑X-Man 19:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC)