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TNA Against All Odds

Do not add a TNA World Title match back in, no such match has been announced. It is a POSSIBLE match, but it has not been made official. Angle will only have to defened the title if Cage or Joe win the three-way dance on iMPACT, or if Styles wins and chooses to take the title shot (the other option is if Styles wins and choose to makeit so Angle doesn't have to defend the title until Lockdown). Putting the match back in will be considered vandalism since no world title match has been announced. TJ Spyke 02:50, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Please do not add unsourced or original content. Doing so violates Wikipedia's verifiability policy. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. TJ Spyke 04:46, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
No problem. Just remember to only add confirmed matches, not matches you expect to happen. Also, don't add in spoilers (meaning don't add what happens at the iMPACt tapings until they air on TV or are announced at tnawrestling.com) TJ Spyke 06:26, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
When adding a match, provide a source (if it's from the show, just mention that in the edit summary. Something like "Just announced on iMPACT"). TJ Spyke 04:10, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Wrestlinglover

I have opened up a case over here regarding your username, which may not meet the requirements of our username policy. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 01:05, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Wrestlinglover. While there had been some discussion here about whether your username met Wikipedia policy on what usernames editors can use, the result was to allow it, and that discussion has now been closed. You do not need to change your username. Thanks, sorry for the inconvenience. --Bongwarrior (talk) 11:32, 1 February 2008 (UTC)


Editing

I learned through experience. Template:Welcome123 has a lot of helpful links, I suggest WP:ADOPT if you just want general help from a more experienced user (it's like a mentorship program where a more experienced user will help you out). TJ Spyke 23:07, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Wiki freinds

I have started on my user page a list of my Wiki freinds is it O.K if I put you on it? Steelerfan-94 (talk) 19:04, 6 February 2008 (UTC).

Sorry man I have been editing my page a lot trying to improve it and I lost a lot of my userboxes and I don't know how but your name, just like the Nirvana song All Apologies. :( hey I went to your youtube and it was pretty cool!! write me back Steelerfan-94 19:41, 15 February 2008 (UTC).

It was awesome it sounds like you do a lot of fun stuff. Steelerfan-94 01:28, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I would TRUST ME, but my parents blocked it to were I can't go to My space can you tell me what it's like and do you know how to hack in to it? SexySteelerFan 14:31, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Is it hard to start a My space? CrymeTyme-94 01:34, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
So I could make one of my band? CrymeTyme-94 16:15, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Would you like a custom sig? I can make you one. SexySeaSquid 00:04, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
O.K, I'm not on here like I was, I'm mostly on bebo with my freinds. SexySeaSquid 20:33, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Awesome I play guitar to!! SexySeaSquid 19:54, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I play alot of 80's rock, Van Halen, Guns N' Roses, AC/DC, and new stuff like Foo Fighters etc. I play in a band in the Tampa Florida area. SexySeaSquid 18:33, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Wait! I forgot my favorite band to play it is for shure Metallica, I just fighurred out how to play One so I'm playing it all the time. SexySeaSquid 19:18, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

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Religion

I would love to hear what you have to say. Esepecially this "scientific proof" that God does indeed exist. If you can proove that God does exist, I will be in Church this Sunday. -GuffasBorgz7- 08:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

You seem very intelligent for a 16 year old, congratulations. I am also 16. Some may be quite surprised that I have developed such an opinion on life because of my age. Nevertheless, that is not the issue at hand.
  • 1. The Big Bang Theory, is what it is, a theory. It is not fact, yet. But the thing is, is that it is so widely accepted, it might as well be fact. No one, and I mean no one, argues over the big bang anymore, they accept it, because it is a far superior theory to any other.
  • 2. Who says that there was no time before the Big Bang? Also, I hope you are familiar with Black Holes. That is similar to the beginning of the universe. The universe was tiny, but extremely dense and compact. The matter was crushed into a tiny little spot. It heated up and rapidly expanded (exploded is an incorrect term). WillC, we all have to accept, that in this universe, there are going to be things that we can't understand. To intelligent for the Human Brain. There are a lot of questions to be asked, most we probably won't understand, or ever find out.
  • 3. Life can't begin from nothing? Earth was given the perfect conditions for life to exist. The first life to exist was bacteria, it developed because it was possible due to climate, temperature, atmosphere etc. It evolved and kept evolving, and here we are!
  • 4. Let's assume that you are correct, that it is impossible for the universe to be created naturally. You automatically assume that it was God. Why? Because a book says so. A book says there is an imaginary being, wathing over us. If I wrote a book which said: GuffasBorgz7 was God!. Does that make it true? No! Of course not, people wouldn't believe it for one second. Why? Because there is no proof. Same with religion, no proof it exists. Even if you are right about the Big Bang Theory (I don't think that you are) you cannot prove it was God.
-GuffasBorgz7- 21:13, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:hope

If your God would have me burn for exercising my reason I don't want to know him. But feel free to email me if you want to have a conversation about it; I may be able to talk some sense into you. Richard001 (talk) 10:15, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a forum or chat site. Richard has invited you to take it to email, please don't continue the discussion on Wikipedia.-gadfium 06:03, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Users can be emailed from the toolbox on the left ("e-mail this user"). Some users haven't provided an email (it is optional) so can't be contacted. I have sent you an email. Richard001 (talk) 06:51, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi

Hi u probably don't know me but anyway I was reading some of the conversations you have been having about God and believing in him (how noisy am i lol). And I really support what your doing. And I know this probably doesn't mean much coming from an almost 13 year old but anyway I just wanted to let u know! Adster95 (talk) 19:07, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree with Adster, I'm pretty religous my self, and try to reed the bible a couple times o' week. ZACH 18:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I here ya man how lon till you get out of school? ZACH 18:46, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
And I have a question you like TNA better than WWE? ZACH 18:49, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:Would you happen to know

It's because no one has decided to undertake and expansion of those TNA PPVs. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 13:39, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

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RE: Move

No problem. It did that because The Great American Bash (2008) was a redirect to the other article. I had to delete it first and move the article there, which is something only an admin can do. Nikki311 23:30, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey!

Hey, I'm Cimmo. Yeah with that report, I needed to fix that up, and since I had nothing to do at that time, I just fixed it up since no one else wanted to. And with the report, no worries. Cheers.- Cimmo (talk) 12:04 3 June (UTC)

If there are any more reports you want me to do for TNA's article, just tell me. I've only seen one TNA pay-per view in my whole life and that was Lockdown (2008). If you want me to do anymore reports for TNA articles, just tell me the predominant match and the main matches on the undercard. Cheers.- Cimmo (talk) 6:48 3 June (UTC)

Of course. No worries. Cheers.- Cimmo (talk) 9:58 8 June (UTC)

You made a little mistake on the background for Lockdown (2008), but I'll fix it up. Cheers.- Cimmo (talk) 10:00 8 June (UTC)

On Lockdown (2008), you should only write the main fueds and not every fued, thats was heading into Lockdown. Cheers.- Cimmo (talk) 10:08 8 June (UTC)

If there is anything else you want me to help you on, just ask me ok. Cheers.- Cimmo (talk) 10:14 8 June (UTC)

If you just add more references and write the event, I think it will be elevated to Good Article status, If you nominate it. Cheers.- Cimmo (talk) 6:15 20 June (UTC)

I don't know anything about sources and references and that kind of stuff. I recommended that you ask LAX, because LAX knows alot about that kind of stuff. Cheers.- Cimmo (talk) 7:59 21 June (UTC)

Yeah, I see why not. Cheers.- Cimmo (talk) 1:06 28 June (UTC)

I had a look at Lockdown (2008), and you have to shorten the event and some of the background. Cheers.- Cimmo (talk) 8:12 2 July (UTC)

It's ok, don't worry about it. Cheers.- Cimmo (talk) 8:55 2 July (UTC)

Let me know if there are any articles you would like to work on with me. Cheers.- Cimmo (talk) 11:52 2 July (UTC)

It's ok, I dont work on TNA stuff only WWE stuff. Cheers.- Cimmo (talk) 1:53 2 July (UTC)

Would you be able to help me with the background of Vengeance (2004). Cheers.- Cimmo (talk) 12:42 6 July (UTC)

I just need the rest of it done. I need as much as you think would be enough, just so I can try to get it to GA. Cheers.- Cimmo (talk) 12:48 6 July (UTC)

Let me know if there are any WWE articles you would like to work on with me. Cheers.- Cimmo (talk) 10:34 7 July (UTC)

Yeah, with the background for Vengeance I am only going to write the main fueds and they are Benoit vs. Triple H, Edge vs. Orton, and Hardy vs. Kane. Cheers.- Cimmo (talk) 12:25 7 July (UTC)

Hows Victory Road going. Cheers.- Cimmo (talk) 11:28 14 July (UTC)

Re:Question

It was agreed at WT:PW to add that information into the infoboxes of wrestling events.--SRX--LatinoHeat 21:18, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

That includes all wrestling events, from TNA, WWE, ROH, Japan wrestling events, WCW events, etc.--SRX--LatinoHeat 21:30, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
That would be very helpful. Thank You!--SRX--LatinoHeat 21:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
That is great because WP:PW needs more TNA good articles.--SRX--LatinoHeat 21:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
IT looks ok, but you have too many feuds covered in the background section, just focus on three main feuds and expand those.SRX--LatinoHeat 21:47, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Thats awesome. True that, but still it can be done later. Though there are still many PPV's from WWE to do.SRX--LatinoHeat 00:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks man. You can do No Way Out for now. But make sure you write the years in parenthesis. Like No Way Out (2004) and not No Way Out 2004. 00:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)SRX--LatinoHeat
Ok cool.SRX--LatinoHeat 01:06, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:Protection

Sure. :) If you need to request protection for any article, hit the tab that says "rpp" at the top. From there you fill out a brief form and it's submitted. If an admin deems it necessary, the protection will be added. Anyone can request protection, though only administrators can actually grant it. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 01:10, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure. There's nothing wrong with that. I pretty much confine myself to wikilink fixes, vandalism reverts and the occasional citation myself. I pretty much just fix the mistakes of others. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 01:13, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
I know what you mean. But just learn at your own pace. I don't have enough time to actually expand a PPV, but I contribute what I can. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 01:18, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Why not make a topic at WT:PW and request a peer review for Lockdown then? Gavyn Sykes (talk) 01:22, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Don't feel bad about that. I didn't even realize it existed until after about three months of editing. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 01:26, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Your page

Would you care if I copyedited your userpage? I've seen this a thousand times, the spell check you fed it through introduced some grammar mistakes into it that you didn't put into it yourself. I don't want to do it without your permission, but I can undo the damage your word processor did. Cheers, The Hybrid 11:10, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey William, thanks for the offer, but as you can see by my userpage, I am currently on a semi-wikibreak until my exams are over, and when I get back, I will continue to work on the projects listed on my page under "Recent Projects." So unfortunately, I will not have enough time to work on this with you, so I apologize. Best of luck in getting it to GA status, Cheers! -- iMatthew T.C. 01:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Really sorry about that! I hope you find somebody else, Cheers! -- iMatthew T.C. 01:28, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

 Done --Cheers, The Hybrid 05:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Not a problem. From my studies of psychology, only about 15% of the population can truthfully claim to be above average in their studies of English, the humanities and such, so you're in the majority. Glad I could help. Cheers, The Hybrid 08:35, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, what are your favorite subjects, if you don't mind me asking? Cheers, The Hybrid 10:11, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm probably pushing my luck here, but would you mind taking a personality test for me? Its modern form isn't an accurate science by any means (~53%-60%), but it is useful in that it will allow me to relate you to some classical psychological models. I hope you don't mind me conducting a critical analysis of your personality :). It's just something I do for fun. Note, there are no good or bad results, and no type is smarter than another, so be as honest as possible should you choose to take it. The test can be found here. Cheers, The Hybrid 11:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

It would be cool to hear the four-letter code that you received. This will help me to determine which of four types of people you fit in to. Cheers, The Hybrid 07:16, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Mmm, yes, the test's statistical unreliability rears its ugly head yet again. However, I can determine a fair amount of information from this. It sounds to me like you can learn anything you wish to learn, due to the S-N not being set in stone. You can think in both abstract (pattern oriented) and concrete (detail oriented) ways. However, at the same time, you will be more comfortable making value-based judgments, as opposed to conducting a critical analysis due to the F being consistent. You have trouble being objective and impersonal; you are more concerned about the effect on people than the overriding effects. If people are involved, the issue is now important to you. You may also have a strong love for animals, and they probably love you back. Now, if you are interested in a science related field for a career, the social sciences are probably where you would like to go. Subjective logic is very well-suited to conducting an analysis of people. Anyways, you are also more quiet than you are outgoing, and more malleable and adapting than rigid and organized, though the two are pretty close. Anyways, if you're curious about me, I am outgoing, I think in more abstract ways, I make decisions based on objective rather than subjective logic, and I am adaptable and disorganized. ENTP --Cheers, The Hybrid 08:19, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Law would be good for you, as would studies in religion. You might consider going to work for Focus on the Family after receiving your law degree, rather than attempting to start such a large company. Cheers, The Hybrid 09:30, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

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Re: Feedback

Yeah, you can add Lockdown to the Feedback section, since its design to get other's opinions to get the article to GA and stuff. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:40, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Um, I can't right now. But, if you ask any other member from PW, I'm pretty sure they can give you the lowdown of what the article needs for it to become GA. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 14:19, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Re

Noted, see reply.--UnquestionableTruth-- 06:53, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Noted, and replied... awaiting your response. --UnquestionableTruth-- 07:39, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Above... --UnquestionableTruth-- 07:52, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Really? you have a youtube account? I had no idea... JK.--UnquestionableTruth-- 08:02, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

....Ah, Jeff Jarrett... been hit on the head with a guitar one too many times... Anyway, replied.--UnquestionableTruth-- 08:15, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Re'ed to the second power.--UnquestionableTruth-- 08:26, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Re to the re... cuz I'm quick like that--UnquestionableTruth-- 08:34, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Fine. Do you have an MSN or anything becuase we could just talk there. I'd hate to take up all that space on the talk page and the youtube link just for that. --UnquestionableTruth-- 08:47, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Its cool, why don't we just call it a night for now? Its 2:00 AM here. --UnquestionableTruth-- 08:57, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
The reason it won’t work is because those PPV's don't have their own Templates. The WWE PPV template integrates the templates of all other WWE PPV's, which is why they show up in the main PPV template without complications. --UnquestionableTruth-- 04:16, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Lockdown 08

I'm going to look over Lockdown (2008) soon, probably later tonight. Take a look at this article, it is an extremely good article that you can use to help source the article. SLAM Wrestling is undoubtedly reliable. Pretty good so far for your first PPV expansion. Look for my comments soon. Nikki311 23:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I've done some pretty heavy copyediting in the article. Here is the difference. Look it over so you know exactly what changes I made, so you don't make the same mistakes in the future. Here are some things that really stuck out to me about your writing:

  • The writing style was very informal. Don't write an article as if you are talking to a friend. Write it as if it is a report to be turned in at school and graded.
  • Numbers should be spelled out. 8 --> eight
  • Leave out point of view. Ex: "It was a good match" and "unfortunately" - stick to the facts
  • All the paragraphs in the background section began with "Another feud going into Lockdown". I changed a couple of instances. Try sentence variety.
  • Make sure sentences are complete, with a subject, verb, and direct object.
  • iMPACT! is a television show, so it should be in italics.
  • Later is spelled with only one T. Latter --> Later
  • Spell out contractions. Wouldn't --> would not
  • The background and aftermath sections are a lot longer than the event section. I tried to remedy this a bit, but it needs more work. The event itself should be the focus of the article. For example, why describe in detail what happens at Sacrifice in the aftermath, when that should be covered in the event section of that article?
  • Only capitalize proper nouns and the first word of a sentence.

I hope these suggestions help you in your future article writing. Nikki311 22:48, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

TNA posters

Just thought you might be interested in uploading these to Wikipedia. Better quality posters of TNA PPVs: [1] --13 of Diamonds (talk) 01:02, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

You do not need to create a new file just to upload a new version. You can simply upload a new image under the current file, and change anything necessary in the process. If you have any other questions, don't hesitate to ask me. Cheers, –LAX 10:11, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Sure, no problem. I'll look at it a little later. –LAX 01:23, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: I wonder if you don't mind?

What do you have in mind? -- Oakster  Talk  07:59, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

OVW Triple Crown...

is here Darrenhusted (talk) 09:03, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:Check it Out

I think it looks good so far, but I don't recall TNA ever mentioning a Team Mexico as part of this year's X-Cup. I had thought it was just the other three. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 01:27, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I see. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 01:53, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Cool. WrestleView generally isn't reliable due to the dirtsheet aspect of it. Most of those sites are accurate, but mistakes do happen. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 03:17, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I misspoke. It's considered accurate for PPV results and such, but not for future events. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 03:22, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
I have absolutely no idea, to be honest. Sorry. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 03:29, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Try checking the sources in some of our PPV Good articles. That may yield some good sources. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 12:35, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Uh, sorry...

Okay, I'll stop deleting it as long as my comment in the section doesn't get changed from MEANING MICKIE AND JOHN to brooke and john --WWEluvr (talk) 03:26, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


The MARRIED section in John Cena's article is (I almost hate to say it {sarcasm}), COMPLETELY USELESS!!! It doesn't work on improving the article. It's almost an article in itself of untrue rumors. That is why I keep deleting it. And BTW, you're somewhat of a hypocrite... you have all of these HARDY FAN and SMACKDOWN RULES things on your page, but then you go and have these ones that say WWE BORES ME and I PREFER TNA... it doesn't make any freakin' since. --WWEluvr (talk) 02:54, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Whatever, I don't really care about you, but HE WASN'T MARRIED, SO THAT SECTION DOESN'T DO ANYTHING TO IMPROVE THE ARTICLE. --WWEluvr (talk) 03:13, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll give you the last one, but the question is: Can YOU find a source that says he WAS married, other than a wiki or other question site like that? --WWEluvr (talk) 03:19, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Edit summary note

Editing can be frustrating, but calling people names (here: [2] and [3]) are abusive edit summaries. There's no need to insult people, due to conflicts. Revert and leave it be. RobJ1981 (talk) 12:44, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

RE

Sorry I couldn't get back to you sooner. I'm glad to see It all worked out. How are the specific TNA ppv templates coming along?--UnquestionableTruth-- 02:10, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

TNA templates

Please don't remove speedy deletion templates from pages that clearly should be deleted under the relevant csd. You may want to read the template before you revert. —Ms2ger (talk) 08:55, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

I disagree. They should be deleted. WP:CSD states:
  1. Templates that are not employed in any useful fashion, and are either: substantial duplications of another template, or hardcoded instances of another template where the same functionality could be provided by that other template, may be deleted after being tagged for seven days.
These templates are clearly not employed in any useful fashion, as your user page is the only one to link to them. They are also substantial duplications of {{TNAPPV}}, which provides the same links. In my opinion, this means that they should be deleted. You may disagree with this policy, but it is policy after all.
With regard to the pages in Category:WWE navigational boxes, I will look into these when we settled this. —Ms2ger (talk) 09:14, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Please keep in mind that the period of seven days is only required for templates to be deleted under CSD T3, not for, e.g., those that are deleted under the G4 criterion (recreation of deleted material).
The fact that I didn't propose to delete the WWE navboxes is, in my opinion, completely irrelevant to this argument. You can not expect me to check every single template on Wikipedia. I have put the category on my todo list, to check them as soon as I have time. I do not care who created the template, I didn't even know they were made by an administrator before you told me. Thanks for your time. —Ms2ger (talk) 10:19, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
The point isn't that there shouldn't be a navbox to link these articles, the point is that this is already done well enough by {{TNAPPV}}. I will nominate these templates for speedy deletion again, and Category:WWE navigational boxes is up next. Thank you again for your time. —Ms2ger (talk) 13:21, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

RE: Templates

The PPV templates for WWE were created because a fair number of the PPVs of each name (New Year's Revolution, Backlash, Judgment Day, etc.) were receiving their own article's as part of WP:PW's PPV expansion project, which I know you are aware of. As for the TNA ones, I would have to agree with the user above, aside from the Bound for Glory, Slammiversary, and Lockdown ones. They should be kept as every PPV from each names as their own article's. The rest should be deleted as only a select few have individual PPV articles. –LAX 22:38, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

IMO, yes, as every individual PPV as their own article. There really is no reason why it should have be deleted. Anyway, I would be more than happy to help you work on any TNA PPV. In fact, I have already started expanding Slammiversary (2007) in my sandbox. Please take a look and tell me what you think so far. Regards, –LAX 01:21, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Not that I know of. If any get TfDed, however, don't remove the TfD template. Let it go through the process and wait out the outcome. If deleted, then so be. Anyway, I will begin expanding Slammiversary and Bound for Glory (2006) once I'm done; but this will take me awhile, as I am lazy for one, and like to take my time. They should be of GA material once I'm done, however. –LAX 01:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
The only FAC reliable one I know of is SLAM! Sports. May I please know of the other sources you have? Thanks, –LAX 01:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

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You have no idea...--UnquestionableTruth-- 02:42, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

No not really. Just trying to figure out how the hell they're going to fix this mess up with supplemental draft... Damnit --UnquestionableTruth-- 02:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Guess we'll find out come the supplemental draft...or NoC.--UnquestionableTruth-- 03:11, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I have a better photo that I can upload later on for the article. Second, you can use any photo I upload for any article. I have no power to prevent that. Just look for bios, and perhaps Flickr, looking for "free licenses". Check the Wikimedia commons site for more info on which ones are allowed. Mshake3 (talk) 22:47, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Those from the website probably won't be allowed under "fair use". However, I do have a recent photo of Steiner from that same event, so I'll get that up as well. Mshake3 (talk) 01:37, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Its an image taken from WWE.com. It even has the same resolution that images from WWE.com have (456 x 352). Because it was taken directly from WWE.com it is a copyrighted image and does not fall under Free Use. Hope that helps. Well... On a side note... It looks like the Supplemental Draft didn't help much... Oh well there's always next year... Or this Sunday!--UnquestionableTruth-- 21:18, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Of course not. I'm pretty sure they'll sort this whole thing out at NoC.--UnquestionableTruth-- 21:40, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

RE:Copyedit

I just performed a preliminary copyedit to the article. I will perform a few more involved copyedits in the near future. I have a system for correcting grammar in long documents. Also, one of your edits conflicted with mine, so you may have to perform some of your edits again, as I pasted my version over yours. Sorry. Cheers, The Hybrid 00:27, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I have just performed the second copyedit to the article. It should be ready for the mainspace. I will perform one more grammar check tomorrow, and if I deem it necessary I will continue checking it daily until it is perfect, or at least as close to perfect as I can get it. However, it is more than satisfactory for a mainspace article in its current form. Cheers, The Hybrid 01:58, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

To be perfectly honest, article quality is something that I have never even dabbled with. If you're looking for an assessment, I recommend iMatthew, LAX, or any other former members of The Kliq. With the new section added, I'll probably be performing copyedits for the next three days or so, one a day as usual. Like I said, I have a system. Cheers, The Hybrid 08:05, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

*Moan* - my day has been absolutely miserable. I'm exhausted, and I'm rather unhappy. If you don't mind, I'll get back to copyediting tomorrow. I don't really feel like doing Wikipedia today. Sorry, The Hybrid 01:20, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, that means a lot to me. At the very moment I'm just taking a second to comment in between taking care of some stuff, but I'll try to get to it later. Cheers, The Hybrid 00:09, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Cool, I'll make sure the copyedit gets done today. Cheers, The Hybrid 00:14, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

I've just performed a copyedit. Sorry for not getting to it yesterday, like I promised. There's no excuse for that; I know that you don't care, but I should have made sure it was done. Cheers, The Hybrid 06:00, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

RE:TNA templates

Hello! Well at first I read the talk page, and was not going to delete them, but then I looked at the "link" and saw that the templates were not being used as templates. All the links in the templates just linked to the page that the template was linked to. I really don't understand what they were being used for. Templates can have links to them and still be deleted if the templates themselves aren't being used as templates. Out of curiousity, what admin are you talking about? And it is best to link to where an admin says something, instead of just stating they said something. Also, I would be glad to place the content of the templates on a user subpage for you if you still want to work on them. Just let me know. Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 08:50, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Also, if I just missed something, please explain and I would be glad to undelete them. I just dont see where they are being used as templates to link articles together. It was more of a housekeeping deletion then anything else. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 08:53, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok just give me a few moments and I will undelete them. When I do just remove the CSD tag and the hangon template. I trust you know what you are doing and that these will be useful at some point. Keep up the good work, cheers! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 09:02, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Naw just remove everything except for the template. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 09:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Ok I think I have got all of them. And don't worry about it, I was a probably a little too trigger-happy. Good luck editing! Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 09:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Hehe, thanks. I try and stay positive on Wikipedia. There are a lot of people that take it way too seriously. I would be glad to review an article for you. I can't promise I am the best reviewer but I am sure I could probably give you a pretty good review. I won't get to it for probably 10 hours or so (sleep lol) but if you just leave the page on my talk page I'll review it. Have a good night, I am off to bed!! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 09:35, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

List

Why not? Add away!--UnquestionableTruth-- 00:57, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Just a pissed off sock that was abusing User:Sesshomaru [4]. Apparently he had something against Sesshomaru and started creating socks to revert all of his edits for no reason. So I saw this, stepped in, blocked him, and now apparently wants to bring the fight to me. Trolls... --UnquestionableTruth-- 11:21, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Don't know who I am? Well get to know me [5] --UnquestionableTruth-- 11:33, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Ha! cool the next Aaron. Nevermind. Yeah I'm off to bed too. Its about 4:30am here.... Yeah 4:30.... AM.... don't ask. --UnquestionableTruth-- 11:39, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:list

Go right ahead. :) Gavyn Sykes (talk) 03:25, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

I noticed. Got it. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 03:38, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Night of Champions 2008

I couldn't care less what you do with the article, (I don't mind you so much) but it seems every time I go on there it looks like crap. So I went back to an older edit. Try to get the page reprotected so that we can have some order until we have moved on to the next one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DeadmanUndertaker (talk • contribs) 05:37, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't sign. Anyways whatever, it seems nobody really cares about articles anymore just so long as they can and understand them. Quality doesn't seem to matter to these people anymore. It's sad. Eventually I am afraid like every other server that has gone to crap and isn't quite needed anymore this one will fade out. Reminds me of FICS (Free Internet Chess Server) they went to crap. Seems like theres nothing good anymore. The things that are good are too expensive. Oh well, Good Day. DeadmanUndertaker 05:50, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

RE: Lockdown again

I looked over the article in your sandbox, and it is looking much better. I did a little copyediting, I hope you don't mind. The thing that stuck out the most to me, was the amount of detail written. Wikipedia articles are supposed to be written in summary style. Maybe, describe the beginning of the match, the big spot or two in the middle, and the ending. Take a look at SummerSlam (1988), which is my big project at the moment. I'm currently re-writing some of it, though, to use less wrestling jargon (see WP:JARGON) and make it more interesting for non-fans to read. Hope that helps. You are definitely getting closer to making GA possible. Nikki311 05:07, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

I just rolled back my copyedit. I must have accidentally pasted it over Nikki's version, which took care of the formatting and more technical issues I know nothing about, in addition to correcting more grammar errors than I was capable of catching. I'll look over it one last time, but I think that Nikki pretty much took care of everything. Cheers, The Hybrid 07:31, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Alright, cool. I hadn't finished, but I can continue working on it in the article space. I should finish tonight. After that I'm off on a Wikibreak for a while. Cheers, The Hybrid 07:22, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Alright, finished. The peer review is likely to catch a few errors that I missed, as I wasn't able to follow my system to the letter. However, the errors should be few and far between. I'll see you when I get back. I'm not sure how long I'll be gone, but it will be for at least two weeks. Cheers, The Hybrid 08:09, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

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PPV Tutorial

First lets start off with a comparison, see Lockdown (2008) compared to the GAN of Backlash (2003). First off, do you see a difference?--SRX--LatinoHeat 00:16, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

That is true. But the leads of both article are okay. The only thing you want to do is write a small prose about the aftermath in the lead, like in Backlash (the last paragraph in the lead).--SRX--LatinoHeat 01:59, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Now onto the background, you should begin the background in this format "The main feud heading into (the event's name) was between (wrestler A) and (Wrestler B), with the two battling over the (blank title)--SRX--LatinoHeat 02:18, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
This feud restarted after Management Director Jim Cornette announced that Joe would fight Angle for the title at TNA's all Steel Cage pay-per-view Lockdown, on the March 13 edition of Impact!. - Lets take this sentence as an example, you dont need to say that the feud restarted, just say that Cornette announced the match for LockDown, plus you dont need to say "TNA's all steel cage ppv", not necessary, that was established in the lead already. Understand?SRX--LatinoHeat 02:58, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Almost, On the March 13 edition of Impact!, Management Director Jim Cornette announced that at Lockdown Joe and Angle would battle it out for the TNA World Heavyweight Championship., per previous GA reviews, edition shouldn't be used, "episode" should be used instead. Battle it out, is poor word choice and would stand out in a GA review, it would read better if you said, "would face each other for.." or "that at Lockdown, Joe would defend his TNA World Heavyweight Championship at Lockdown against Angle" or vice versa (depending who the champion is).SRX--LatinoHeat 03:09, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Well just remove the unreliable ones, the ones I showed you at WT:PW are reliable. That gives you some variety of sources. But if you are to do that, make sure you dont over reference, dont ref a source over 26 times.SRX--LatinoHeat 14:35, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
That is good. BUt i dont think you understand when I say that dont use it over 26 times, go to the references of lockdown, do you see what I see "abcdefghijklmnopgrstuvyxyzabacadaeaf" to one ref?SRX--LatinoHeat 20:30, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Oh ok. Cool.SRX--LatinoHeat 20:36, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Also so you have an idea of how articles should be written, look at SummerSlam (2003), I am currently working on it.SRX--LatinoHeat 20:37, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes it is right, it is new consensus for PPVs. Also, it looks good for a future event.SRX--LatinoHeat 21:01, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
What?SRX--LatinoHeat 00:34, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
That doesnt make u an idiot, it happens to everyone here on wiki. Dont put yourself down like that. =]SRX--LatinoHeat 01:44, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Oh, but no, don't be so down on yourself, you are a great editor and you are on your way to making it big here, I used to be like you a year ago, I began expanding articles and I learned from there. This is my first article, and This is my most recent article.SRX--LatinoHeat 01:50, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Well thats gonna be a hard task, as not even experience editors could get WWE PPVs to FA status, December to Dismember (2006) is the projects only PPV FA, and it was by clearly a mere vote by WP:PW members, now that the FA criteria is enhanced, many good written articles cant make it to FA, just look at the 2 nominations of SummerSlam (2007), which is a good written article.--SRX--LatinoHeat 02:54, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
That's great. But it is also a hard task to get articles to GA status. So focus mainly on getting TNA's first GA article =)SRX--LatinoHeat 03:22, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
The references look a lot better now, however, there are still many issues with the prose. A few things to point out, in the lead, you dont have to say that it took place "in 2008", that will be established later with the date. Also, you did not wikilink professional wrestling properly in the background. Also, references have to be in order. --->[4][1] (This is wrong), --->[4][23] (This is right, because they are in order.) You did not also take my word when I told you to remove unnecessary feuds in the BG, only 3-4 should be outlined not all of the feuds.SRX--LatinoHeat 13:39, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
It does not matter, its per WP:PW/MOS, only 3-4. Its not just WWE events, its all PPV events. SRX 22:33, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
If you have a problem with it bring it up at WT:PW, if you take this to GA, they will tell you to remove it per other PPVs.SRX 22:37, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Automatic peer reviews dont help, they are just default ideas generated by a bot, which is given to all peer reviews. There are still prose issues, but I guess you should see what a GA reviewer says, he might say the same thing as me. But now, you need to wait until the peer review is archived and then put the article on the waiting list at WP:PW, before you do announce it on WT:PW, since its the first TNA article going to GAN.--SRX 22:48, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Peer reviews dont end until there are 10 days of no responses on the peer review page.SRX 22:59, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Oh, well the 13th is when it will end ;)--SRX 23:06, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
It's ok. Your welcome.SRX 23:12, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Lockdown (2008)

Hey, I saw your query on AndyZ's talk page. Unfortunately, he's inactive right now, but here's what the script says. Not a lot, I'm afraid.

You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas.

Note that these might not actually be right - APR often goofs on certain articles. Nousernamesleft (talk) 22:37, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Reply

Even if it ends with Dr. there will always be another person trying to figure out why Cage is listed there. It amazes me how they can just look at things and just assume something completely different than what it actually is. I mean it clearly says on that list of champions section that Angle was the first TNA World Heavyweight Champion as crowned at Slammiversary and that Cage was only referred to as the World Heavyweight Champion. You know this whole thing has just been a huge miscommunication and misunderstanding mostly by those who keep bringing up problems with Cage being listed there.

Anyway, to answer your other question. The new Divas belt makes the Spinner belt look like a freakin masterpiece. More importantly though, what do you think of the Divas belt?--UnquestionableTruth-- 10:49, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm... His last response was an hour ago... Wonder what happened? --UnquestionableTruth-- 11:15, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Professional wrestling newsletter

Delivered: 18:50, 7 July 2008 (UTC) by MiszaBot (talk)

Hey there!

Alright man, you seem like you will be a GREAT new face around WP:PW. I notice though that you seem to be fairly new. Are you at all interested in the Adoption program. I was a part of it, and I'll tell you this..it is VERY VERY helpful. Adoption teaches you all sorts of things about Wikipedia. If you are an adoptee, you need an adopter (somebody to adopt you). I would be more than happy to adopt you, if you'd like. Write back, and let me know. -- iMatthew T.C. 23:21, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Alright, no problem man! -- iMatthew T.C. 11:01, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Request

Hi, William. Nice to meet you too! Sure thing, I was planning on getting around to all TNA PPVs, and WCW and ECW ones, eventually. It might take me a couple of days, but I'll definetly get them done. ;) ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 06:20, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

LOL. Don't worry, I've seen a lot worse tables, believe me. It took me ages to figure out how to properly use them. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 06:26, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
It gets easier, man, believe me. I usually find when mine screw up, it's becase I've forgotten a "-" somewhere or something. The smallest screw-ups are the hardest to find. :) ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 06:34, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Yea, I've forgotten to that with table as well. Throws the whole article out of whack. I did it in the start section of List of World Wrestling Entertainment alumni once when I was editing. Couldn't figure out what the hell I'd done wrong. I'm good with references though. That's all I did for like 3 months, add references to articles. Manily 'cause it was the only thing I knew how to do when I joined up. :) ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 06:58, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Well, taking a brief glance at it Victory Road does look good. I'll think you may have to shorten down the background section though. Normally only the tope3/4 feuds are included. I would do more for TNA articles, except I don't watch it cause it's not broadcast on any stations I get here in Ireland. That's why I confine myself to WWE articles, cause I can actually watch it. :) ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 07:35, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
The thinking behind it was to shorten down the article, because having all of the feuds in the background tends to make the article seriously long. They articles are all about the World titles, because they're the big ones, and tend to be the main events with more time given to them. Yea, Ireland's cool enough. Kentucky, huh? My aunt lives in Louisville in Kentucky! Small world! Yea, I think TNA does air on Bravo, but I don't have reception for it in my area, which sucks. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 08:10, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Almost 17? Same here! I'm 17 tomorrow actually!! Yea, I live in (well, a few miles outside) Arklow, which is approximately 80 miles from Dublin. Bit of a dump, but there ya go. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 10:31, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the birthday wishes! Yeah, I know. It's strange isn't it? My birthday isn't on the newsletter, because I never added myself to the calendar, where that information is taken from. I never felt the need to. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 09:24, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Well, thank you again! Yea, if you look on the WP:PW main page, you'll see a list under "Project forums and subpages", showing all those types of pages. There's loads of them! ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 09:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
At first I just made little changes, you know like grammar/spelling, then I started adding references to articles. I entirely referenced The Mexicools and Shannon Moore for just 2 examples. I joined WP:PW, when Nikki told me about it, and eventually I became more and more involved with it. Now I, along with Matt pretty much take care of the newsletter being updated/sent out and the COTW. It's kinda crazy really. Now I do everything from formatting to adding references to vandalism patrol. You become a "jack-of-all-trades" on Wikipedia! ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 09:57, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Oh, yeah, I'm totally the same. I end up getting distracted by the 'pedia, and then I get a phone call saying I was supposed to meet up with my mates about an hour ago. It's ridiculous how addictive this place can be! ;) ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 23:29, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
To be honest, I've no idea. I guess it's cuase I just love the idea of wikipedia, of an encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and I want to contribute my knowledge to it (as small as that knowledge may be!) I also think it's cause there are so many wrestling related articles that are just awful, and need help, that I feel I have to stick around and try and fix 'em. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 23:52, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey man, it's not that bad! You're seriously self-deprecating about your writing skills, man. At least you're trying to expand articles, and giving it a shot. You'll become better in time, and everyone will marvel at your skills! ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 00:09, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Aw, thanks man! I always appreciate compliments! Hey you can't be that bad at english; look at the amount of typing in it you do! Good luck on the FA; I don't envy you there, FA's got some seriously sough standards on everything: prose, references, everything. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 00:26, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Jesus, I hope so too. That sounds like a load of work. I tell ya what, nearer the time, if you need an extra set of hands, give me a shout, and I'll see if I can help out a little. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 00:47, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm an agnostic, but I would tend to border on the side of atheism if really pressed. I noticed you're a Christian through your userpage. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 01:24, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
I believe more in science than I do in the bible. I don't believe in any of the "miracles", water into wine, etc, and I don't believe that Jesus was the son of God. I do think that could be a god, but I think that if there is, then it doesn't concern itself with us, with humans. I don't believe that a god created the universe, but I do believe in evolution, which I think is a perfectly sound and rational theory. In my opinion, everything I do and have learnt throughout my life would sway me more towards being an atheist. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 01:36, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Really not to be rude, but no. One of my friends is the son of a priest. He's very religious and has been trying to change my mind about religion for about 5 years, since I started to really think about it. If he hasn't done it, then I really think you'd just be wasting your time. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 01:52, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

That's incredibly soppy of you! LOL, I'm only kidding. Anyway, I'll make ya a deal. I'm a lot less inclined to listen to you today, because I saw my friend a few hours ago, and we discussed this very subject, so I'm a little weary of it. I'll hit ya up some other time, and I'll let ya try to convince me. No guarantees that it'll work though. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 02:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I meant that you saying that you care about was soppy, but not really. That doesn't make sense, does it? I kind of figured that you meant something to dow ithout caring about me from a Christian perspective, like you didn't want to see me go to hell, but that people who hadn't realised that would think that it was soppy. Does that make sense? ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 02:17, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
I'd be seriously worried about my people skills if you did want me to go to hell! Seriously, though, I care about you as a friend too now. One of the parts about the 'pedia! ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 03:03, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
I thought God was supposed to be kind and loving and forgiving. Forgive me if I sound a little mocking here. D'you not think that even if you didn't believe in it that it would forgive you? You think you would be condemned straight to hell for being a non-believer? ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 03:16, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Well, I suppose it does make sense, but I would still argue that it doesn't fit with the idea of a forgiving God. If God was as forgiving as is claimed, surely if you the only sin you had committed was not believing in God, then God should forgive you. By the way, on a somewhat irrelevant topic, WP:NOTMYSPACE mentions we shouldn't be discussing this on wikipedia. We should be discussing wikipedia things, like editing/articles. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 04:05, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
We'll quit now, for the moment, but my e-mail address is NiciVampireHeart@hotmail.com. We'll continue this another time by e-mail. I'll get yours off your userpage! ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 04:23, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
You too. ;) ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 04:27, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
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