User talk:TrangaBellam/Archive 2024

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Baidya

Hey, TrangaBellam, I have sought a third opinion regarding the ongoing disagreement. Thanks — Satnam₂₄₀₈^(talk) 15:16, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Let's shorten the disagreement. I have inquired about Bhaumik multiple times on the article talk page but have not received a response. I believe there is a disagreement about the Skanda Purana and the related section. Bhaumik's input is unrelated to the Skanda Purana and has been accepted by other relevant editors. I removed redundancy and presented it as an opinion or interpretation. Thank you. — Satnam₂₄₀₈^(talk) 04:22, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Removal of sourced content

Hey TrangaBellam, there was some bickering editors on article called Aisha and they cant seem to agree but they have changed the content "Since the late-twentieth century, Islamophobes have used Aisha's age.....", when Ali's source refer to the critics as Islamophobic, so can you please restore to your version as your version was made by consensus by dozens of editors in the archive talk pages. 182.183.46.164 (talk) 14:03, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

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(t · c) buidhe 02:40, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Upcoming inactivity

Do not expect any responses, etc. If you are using that as an opportunity to revert me, go ahead but please leave a note at my t/p. Ty, TrangaBellam (talk) 21:30, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

The Wire (India)

Can you explain why did you specifically revert this edit, by restoring your version on The Wire (India)? Exclusive Editor _{Notify Me!} 11:24, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

@ExclusiveEditor Perhaps, a better question is about why you feel the line to not belong to the lead? TrangaBellam (talk) 21:27, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

I mentioned it in the edit summary if you checked. I removed the mention of awards in lead as per MOS:INTRO. Those have their mention in article below too.Exclusive Editor _{Notify Me!} 13:35, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

RfC

You shouldn't be closing this RfC given your own involvement in this article and its various content disputes.[1] Abhishek0831996 (talk) 05:14, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

True - I did not recall my old involvement. TrangaBellam (talk) 10:47, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Regarding India-related articles

Hello Tranga, I hope that you are not occupied with other tasks to take a look at this request. I wanted you to take a look at this article, which I believe is problematic in many way as it romanticises a legendary folklore as history. I am not too familiar with processes of removing problematic information appropriately but have noticed that are quite active with solving a lot of these issues pertaining to India-related articles. I would like to see what you think, as majority of the information is not from reliable sources at all. It seems to be a way of presenting legends in the guise of a reliable historical article and it bugs me because I know this is the case but it's not easy for me to make that clear to those who are not familiar with the romanticisation of historical conflicts in India. I don't know where a lot that which is mentioned in the article is actually from. I would appreciate your taking a look at this but if you are too occupied, then please remove this message as a heads up so I know to ask elsewhere. Thank you. Muydivertido (talk) 12:00, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

You may want to take it to WP:FTN and explain if the issue is that it represents folkloric legend as fact. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 21:51, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Palestine RfC Close

It is unsurprising (to me) that the three editors — who ask me to vacate the close on supposed violations of INVOLVED — are those who had !voted for Option 1 which stood rejected. For the sake of posterity, I find it prudent to note that about 51/52 editors chose Option 3/4 and 17/18 editors chose Option 1/2 — in other words, 3 of 4 participants were convinced that Option 3, at the very least, was necessary. There is no way that the discussion could have been closed differently by someone else, short of supervoting. That said, any editor can choose to convince the community at AN/ANI about the possibility of a different outcome. TrangaBellam (talk) 16:30, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I think you shouldn't be closing this RfC for similar reasons; if you have strong enough feelings on this conflict to have a quote at the top of this page expressing support for one of the parties you probably aren't sufficiently uninvolved to act as an administrator in the dispute. BilledMammal (talk) 20:37, 12 June 2024 (UTC) Comment originally made in #RfC 22:05, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

I won't accede to your request for "I sympathize with Palestinians" doesn't translate to "I am INVOLVED" in wiki-speak. And, closing the RfC hardly required any significant discretion on my part, the result being fairly obvious. TrangaBellam (talk) 21:34, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

I agree that this is an inappropriate non-admin close per WP:BADNAC. It's controversial as is clear by the fact that two editors are here contesting your close. I would suggest that an unbiased review of the arguments would have led to a different result. I suggest undoing your close and allowing an uninvolved administrator to review. Dcpoliticaljunkie (talk) 15:13, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

No. TrangaBellam (talk) 15:23, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Third editor, this type of statement made on top of your talk page is not great, and I strongly disagree with it being such a clear close. I would request you undo the change and let a fully uninvolved person close it. FortunateSons (talk) 15:34, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

No. TrangaBellam (talk) 16:17, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Closure challenge (at RSN)

FYI [2]. My very best wishes (talk) 14:51, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

@My very best wishes: Noted with thanks. That said, I have no idea why you had me described as a non-admin participant. TrangaBellam (talk) 17:25, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Are you an administrator? If so, my apology. I had a discussion here. This is definitely not something I would try to close. But whatever. If anything, it was brave and bold. My very best wishes (talk) 17:30, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

@My very best wishes You very-well know that my issue was with the word participant. To a fly-by editor, all it impresses upon, is that I partook in the RfC and went on to close it. TrangaBellam (talk) 17:39, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

I meant a participant of the project, not a participant of the RfC, sorry. My very best wishes (talk) 17:43, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Interesting usage, thanks. TrangaBellam (talk) 20:47, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

AN

Hey TrangaBellam, I went ahead and brought this to AN. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 21:41, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

A beer for you!

For trying. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:04, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

A beer for you!

And another for facing down the trolling. ——Serial Number 54129 15:04, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

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CNN

[3] - this close has huge social impact effecting millions of people, short and long term. Any close is going to be controversial, but one by a non-admin editor more so. You should be careful about anyone contacting you directly. If that happens, speaking to the press will cause more controversy. -- GreenC 15:55, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

These days, I am mostly inactive and I see no reason why the media might wish to get a byte of me, not that I am going to give them any. I do not edit Israel-Palestinian articles either. It's just another RfC — with a clear outcome — that should have been closed long ago. TrangaBellam (talk) 17:08, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

A well-earned barnstar

		The Closer's Barnstar
		The encyclopedia suffers from a shortage of editors daring enough to close WP:ARBPIA RfCs. For months, it seemed like no potential closers wanted to touch the ADL RfC with a ten-foot pole. Then you came along and brought some much-needed closure to one of the most heated, consequential, and publicized RfCs I've ever seen in all my years on this site. As bold as it was for you to make the close as a non-administrator, you clearly made the right call as the subsequent admin closer upheld your decision and commented that no reasonable administrator would've closed it any differently. Let's hope you don't get too much unwanted negative attention from this. Great work. Vanilla Wizard 💙 05:51, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Rai dynasty

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Your GA nomination of Rai dynasty

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You have barely a thousand edits to the project and are impolite; stay the fuck away from reviewing my articles. If you were unwilling to copy-edit the prose, you could have said that. TrangaBellam (talk) 12:51, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

@Rollinginhisgrave You can withdraw from the review. TrangaBellam (talk) 13:11, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you

Hello TrangaBellam: I hope you did not think I was being brusque or cutting you off when I replied to your post on my talk page in the manner in which I did. I figured I'll get a few days off and take my mind away from WP-related things. Anyway, as you can see my block has expired and I want to thank you for you post. I notice you have also made some posts on Talk:Mahatma Gandhi. I look forward to reading them, as usual. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 17:48, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Witzel revert

It looks to me like you reverted a bunch of genuine improvements (that had been made by JJ in response to the activity you mentioned in your edit summary)? 100.36.106.199 (talk) 02:09, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

It seems JJ has reimplemented the improvements you reverted, so this is moot. 100.36.106.199 (talk) 10:37, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for keeping an eye, both of you. I'm finally getting the overall pattern: Indus-Sarasvati civilisation, ancient Hinduism, Indian subcontinent, etc.: all Hindutva-politics at play at Wikipedia. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 11:08, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Sultanate of Bijapur GA review

Are you planning to do this sometime soon? It's been more than a month now; should I find a different reviewer? Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 22:36, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

I was (and am) reading the sources, etc. — unlike other GA reviewers, I believe reviewers must have relevant subject expertise. TrangaBellam (talk) 16:49, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Defamatory statements on SIF talk page

Your statement on Talk:Science of Identity Foundation (SIF is a cult) violates WP:BLP as defamatory. The sources in the article reported those assertions as accusations, not conclusions. Humanengr (talk) 20:20, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

@Humanengr: Thanks but I do not agree. If you dispute, you can approach AE. TrangaBellam (talk) 05:38, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Re: Honolulu (magazine)

Give me the dates of the issues you need. Viriditas (talk) 21:24, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

@Viriditas Thanks, I will give you the bibliographic details in a short while! TrangaBellam (talk) 10:23, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Great. Wasn't sure you saw my original reply at RX, which is why I posted here. Viriditas (talk) 20:36, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

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