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Archived every 50 sub-headings:
Archive 1 (July 7, 2005 to October 8, 2005)
Archive 2 (October 9, 2005 to October 22, 2005)
Archive 3 (October 23, 2005 to November 5, 2005)
Archive 4 (November 6, 2005 to November 19, 2005)
Archive 5 (November 20, 2005 to December 7, 2005)
Archive 6 (December 8, 2005 to December 18, 2005)
Archive 7 (December 19, 2005 to December 29, 2005)
Archive 8 (December 29, 2005 to January 8, 2006)
Archive 9 (January 8, 2006 to January 29, 2006)
Archive 10 (January 29, 2006 to February 11, 2006)
Archive 11 (February 11, 2006 to March 3, 2006)
Archive 12 (March 4, 2006 to April 2, 2006)
Archive 13 (April 2, 2006 to April 22, 2006)
Archive 14 (April 23, 2006 to May 11, 2006)
Archive 15 (May 12, 2006 to June 10, 2006)
Archive 16 (June 10, 2006 to July 4, 2006)
Archive 17 (July 4, 2006 to July 31, 2006)
Archive 18 (July 31, 2006 to September 14, 2006)
Archive 19 (September 15, 2006 to November 11, 2006)
Archive 20 (November 11, 2006 to December 23, 2006)
Archive 21 (December 24, 2006 to February 24, 2007)
Archive 22 (February 24, 2007 to April 12, 2007)
Archive 23 (April 12, 2007 to July 10, 2007)
Archive 24 (July 11, 2007 to November 12, 2007)
Archive 25 (November 13, 2007 to March 3, 2008)
Archive 26 (March 9, 2008 to June 21, 2008)
Archive 27 (June 28, 2008 to September 30, 2008)
Archive 28 (October 1, 2008 to June 23, 2009)
Archive 29 (June 27, 2009 to July 2, 2010)
Archive 30 (July 3, 2010 to June 9, 2011)
Archive 31 (June 10, 2011 to December 30, 2012)
Archive 32 (January 1, 2013 to January 7, 2016)
Archive 33 (January 8, 2016 to March 18, 2020)

DO NOT EDIT OR POST REPLIES TO THIS PAGE. THIS PAGE IS AN ARCHIVE.

This archive page covers approximately the dates between June 28 2008 and September 30 2008.

Post replies to the main talk page, copying or summarizing the section you are replying to if necessary.

Please add new archivals to User talk:Titoxd/Archive34. (See Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page.) Thank you. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 13:15, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


Wikipedia:WP 1.0 assessment request

Posted at User talk:Titoxd and User talk:Walkerma I noticed that you are a member of the 1.0 Editorial Team and you have an interest in assessment, so I am requesting that you assist me in making an assessment table for Wikipedia:WikiProject_Bahá'í_Faith#Assessement. As you can see, I have made Wikipedia:WikiProject Bahá'í Faith/Assessment, {{WPBF}}, and Category:WikiProject Bahá'í Faith articles, but for some reason Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Bahá'í Faith articles by quality statistics is not being generated. Walkerma added Category:Wikipedia 1.0 assessments almost two weeks ago, but the table hasn't been generated yet. I really appreciate your time and I wish I knew what I was doing wrong here. Also, I know that there was discussion about C-class articles, but did that get approved? If so, is it obligatory to add a C-class? Please respond on my talk or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bahá'í Faith. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)TCM21:06, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

There you have it Thanks a lot. Again, re:C-class articles: is that designation obligatory or advised now? —Justin (koavf)TCM23:34, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Great One last thing: these assessment tables still have a yellow background for B-class articles, whereas {{Grading scheme}} has assigned yellow to C-class and a pea green to B-class. It seems like this could be confusing, so I would advise the 1.0 assessment folks to fix how these tables look when they are generated. —Justin (koavf)TCM23:39, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Categorization for articles with {{hurricane}}

Quick question. Would there be a nice, easy way to add a parameter to {{hurricane}} to break it down by category? I'm doing the monthly stats, and every month it's frustrating how tedious it is. Is there a way we could add something like |type=Atlantic, |type=season, |type=other? It'd be nice having it automatically broken down to have B-class articles categorized by type, and I wouldn't imagine it would be too difficult. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:31, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

I love the idea of setting up a task force, simply for the categorization purpose. I like, but not love the idea about having the B's automatically re-assessed as C's. In principal, I like it, but I thought the whole point of C class was to have a class in between start and B, not just to raise the standards for B-class. If an article passes all of the B-class criteria, then what is the point of then having A-class? Perhaps this should be dealt with on the project talk page. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:32, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Track stuff

I just had a glance at the WPTC section on this stuff, I'll look into doing a bot run for the basin tracks. That is once there is consensus as to which ones - I'm not uploading all of them unless they are all wanted! I'll try to pick a systematic name format which doesn't clash with anything else.

On a related note, partially due to my idiocy, there is an inconsistent naming structure for unnamed storms. I'd like to standardise them, as it would help with locating things. My idea would be to use the JTWC-style format whether it is 12L, 03E or 33W and with no 'Cyclone' or 'Tropical Storm' style prefix Back to 1984, before that like on the 1970 NIO season. I'd want the projects thoughts before I start doing all the stuff associated with that.

I've got various RL concerns at the moment, but I'm planning to do a major bot run in late August to upload every last track I have data for. That would be back to 1870 in the N Indian, ~1900 in the South Hem and ~1950 for the N Pacific. If I can't readily ID the tracks, I'll just upload them at a generic site and people can re-upload when they ID it. This would mean the project would have everything from the past, and would only need updates when something major occurs - like a new storm or another batch of reanalysis. That would mean you won't need my intervention either. ;)--Nilfanion (talk) 22:47, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Typical of the project, over a week to comment and no response. So what are your views? Without further guidance I will upload the 1851-1994 Atlantic tracks, but I won't do 1995 onwards (that's when the coloured NHC ones start) or EPac ones. Likewise I won't action paras 2 or 3, unless I have at least a second opinion (preferably project consensus) on how to tackle file naming; does what I suggested above sound sensible to you?--Nilfanion (talk) 10:29, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
OK glad to know I'm sane. Regarding the inclusion/exclusion of the precise "Cyclone" or "Tropical storm" type prefixes my reluctance to use them is the difficulty in determining the appropriate one for the context. The problems get worse earlier in the period, WPac tracks stop in the 60s despite named stuff earlier because there is no relationship between the best track and the ATCRs. How would you feel about "Tropical cyclone XXY" for any unidentified/unnamed storms: irrespective of basin? That at least makes it clear it is a cyclone's track. I can read HURDAT but I don't enjoy it, and I don't particularly want to work out what 23P (1985) was just from staring at best track.--Nilfanion (talk) 20:53, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Official rollout of C-Class

Tito,

I will be without internet (for a day or so) in about 5 minutes time, so could you make sure things keep progressing over at Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment? I posted conclusions to the discussions, I think the consensus for several changes are clear, most notably the adoption of the MILHIST criteria, plus I think G-Guy's version of B6. Perhaps you could look over my conclusions, and if you think they are fair, try and modify the "long description" table using the draft version? By all means recruit others to assist with the specific wording as you see fit. If you don't get to it today, I will be able to work on it on Thursday, but I'm concerned that we maintain momentum and get things all clear before we go to "rollout" on Friday (probably evening UTC). Cheers, Walkerma (talk) 15:36, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry if WP:LoCE has been shut down for this, but can you go over this page and see what needs to cleaned up and/or fixed? Slowly aiming once more for FLC anytime soon. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 22:03, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

And now I'm asking you again for your feedback. Just a friendly note. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 13:06, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Nonsense?

It is a well known fact that Nebraska is a celebrated producer of crap. 75.3.192.35 (talk) 02:06, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #18

{{Wikipedia:WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Newsletter/Archive 18}} ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:32, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Help requested at WP:ANIME

Hi Titoxd,

I have been active at the abovementioned Wikiproject for quite a while now, and following the adoption of C-class, we have decided to start up a proper assessment page, re-assess our articles and update our project banner in the same way as {{Hurricane}}.

Will you be willing to update to update {{anime}} with the same functionality, i.e. to assess an article as C-class if all of the parameters have not been completed?

Regards, G.A.S 06:04, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I'll work on that most likely tomorrow, but yeah, I can do that. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 05:34, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much. Your help is appreciated. G.A.S 05:39, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

I have no idea why this is displaying at the top of the page on my browser, please fix this. G.A.S 06:08, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Fixed the problem Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 05:34, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
BarnSakura for excellence
I hereby award you the Anime and Manga BarnSakura for your fine work in updating our Wikiproject banner to use a forced B class checklist. Keep up the good work! —G.A.S 19:02, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

A discussion

An important discussion on Should WikiProjects get prior approval of other WikiProjects (Descendant or Related or any ) to tag articles that overlaps their scope ? is open here . We welcome you to participate and give your valuable opinions. You are receiving this note as you are a member of WikiProject Council -- TinuCherian (Wanna Talk?) - 12:43, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the color scheme

Not sure if it is just me, or whether something serious happened, but it appears that when you added the category to the color templates, the template got messed up. For example - here. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:30, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Source that is really interesting

[1] wondered if you could help with inclusion of this into the article. Seddσn talk Editor Review 10:36, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi Titoxd,

I am asking for a big favours of yours. I nominated the article Euro gold and silver commemorative coins (Austria) for featured list, but there were too many small grammar problems, so we decided to withdraw it, and do a peer review first. The list is complete and very well sourced. It also followed all he suggestions given in Euro gold and silver commemorative coins (Belgium) (recently promoted to featured list), so in general is in a very good shape. Only the description fields for the coins are in a need of a good copy/edit. Can you please help us to get this list promoted?

Many thanks, Miguel.mateo (talk) 06:23, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Follow up from Walkerma's talk page

Thanks for jumping in on my question on Walkerma's talk page. The template I am having the issue with is from the Ireland WikiProject Template:WikiProject_Ireland. If you look at Category:Unassessed Ireland articles you will see a links, several of which, being C-class, are using an uppercase 'C'. There don't seem to be any using a lowercase 'c' but it is odd that even though these articles are assessed as C-class they still appear in the unassessed category. All the properly assessed and correctly categorised articles are using an uppercase 'C'. Curious. Any thoughts? TIA (Normally I post in one place to keep a discussion together, so am now watching this page). ww2censor (talk) 01:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

This had to do with the size of the Job queue more than anything. I went through the category above and did null edits to those talk pages, and that seems to have cleared the category. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 02:00, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Brilliant. You are a star. Thanks ww2censor (talk) 02:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Не за что. Glad to help. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 02:13, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Reading back on Walkerma's talkpage, I see that you referred to "Class" and "class" but I was actually referring to "class=C" as opposed to "class=c", that is the uppercase/lowercase I was talking about not the word "class" but the parameter used. Does it make any difference? ww2censor (talk) 02:16, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Wikiwork

Yea, I know about that, but I opted to change ours to keep it comparable with our old system (making C-class between 3 and 4). ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:21, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Graphics lab

Hello, Titoxd. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
--pbroks13talk? 06:44, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


If you see the configuration of this plugin created by an admin, used by the bot ,it allows creation of only the required categories. This avoids the needs of deletion of unnecessary categories as in case of Math bot.It is also future proof and allows category intersections which is already in adopted by some WikiProjects like WP:INDIA -- Tinu Cherian - 15:51, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Do you mind sharing your opinions at the BRFA. The idea of this bot task is just an alternative for the existing method. Let who wants can use this method.Unlike the Mathbot, It gives some very useful advantages

-- Tinu Cherian - 15:07, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

ITN

Current events globe On 22 July, 2008, In the news was updated with a news item that involved the article(s) Tropical Storm Dolly (2008), which you created or substantially updated. If you know of another interesting news item involving a recently created or updated article, then please suggest it on the In the news candidates page.
--BanyanTree 03:54, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

A request for arbitration which you commented on has been opened, and is located here. Any evidence you wish to provide should be emailed directly to any sitting Arbitrator for circulation among the rest of the committee. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Ryan Postlethwaite 14:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I am getting info as we speak! Cat. 1 as of 3pm CST. MountCan (talk) 20:22, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I am not a public I get info every hour! MountCan (talk) 20:24, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Dolly @ 4

Ok. thanks I was just going to undo my own edit thanks! MountCan (talk) 20:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Dolly

That was me and from the article it says that estimated damages to property = 1.2 billion dollars --Elena85 | Talk to Me | Arlene87 is now Elena85 20:52, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Solution looking for a problem

Hi Titoxd,

I noticed your comments at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) and I wanted to talk to you a bit more about the proposal to move the main page to Portal:Wikipedia. As ais523 pointed out, having the main page in the article space is causing even more problems than I initially realized, and moving it to the Portal space would resolve these problems. Specifically, moving the main page would fix the following:

  • The top-left tab would read "portal" instead of "article".
  • People who want to make copies of Wikipedia, such as people who provide computers to schools in Africa that can't get Internet access, would have an easier time separating actual articles from project content which they don't want to copy. Because the content of the main page changes dynamically from day to day, it would take quite a bit of work to make the main page work and keep working on an offline copy of Wikipedia. Thus, since the main page won't actually work by default, it's probably best to exclude it from copies of Wikipedia article content by default.
  • The "cite this page" link in the sidebar would be hidden from screen readers and text-only browsers, and the sitewide CSS would no longer have to contain a special declaration to hide it.
  • The article count shown at Special:Statistics would be accurate instead of being 1 higher than the actual number of articles on Wikipedia. {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} would also be accurate instead of being off by one.
  • Statistics about Wikipedia articles would be more accurate and not slightly skewed by statistics about the main page that are likely to get mixed in.
  • It would be generally easier to write bots and other automated scripts because developers would not have to worry about having to write special code for the main page, ever.

Thanks for the link to Tim Berners-Lee's article "Cool URIs don't change". I like his reasoning, and I absolutely agree that we should try to get things right the first time to avoid having to move things later. Unfortunately, we didn't get things right the first time, and the longer we delay this move the more of a problem it's going to become. The number of scripts, bots, etc. that have to be specially coded around the main page will continue to increase and it's quite possible that other, unforseen problems will emerge from the illogical placement of the main page into the article space.

I hope this explanation helps resolve your concerns - please let me know. —Remember the dot (talk) 05:55, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Apologies for the delay, but it still doesn't:
  • The top-left tab does not need to be an issue at all if we change the tab in the main namespace from "article" to "page", like developers suggested.
  • Also, as a member of WP:1.0, I have never seen the main page be a concern for publishing projects, as it is impossible to select all the pages in the main namespace and have them be printed or placed on a DVD. There's simply too many, and they don't fit. Instead, the approach used by WP:V0.5, WP:V0.7 and BozMo's Wikipedia for Schools selections is to select a subgroup of articles and publish them. The main page has never been selected, nor it will, so that problem is purely hypothetical.
  • Why does the "cite this page" link even have to be hidden? Isn't consistency in the interface the reason we don't have a second search bar on the Main Page? I really didn't even know that it was hidden, and I don't see why it is necessary.
  • Special:Statistics can be modified on the server side, by not counting a page as an article if its title equals the contents of MediaWiki:Mainpage. Not hard to do, actually, and works for all wikis in all languages.
  • I would be interested in knowing which statistics are skewed by one page out of 2,480,211.
  • If the bots obey {{nobots}}, they shouldn't have to worry about editing the main page, ever.
Overall, I still only see marginal benefits in the move, and a lot of headaches. So, I'm still opposed to the move. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 21:57, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Pacific hurricane season maps

I uploaded a bunch of season maps from NHC. They follow the same naming format as the others. The local copies are interfering with the display, and I think they should be renamed like the other ones with a Blue Marble background[2]. I did not upload on top of them because some [3] may be used on other pages. That is all I can do, so I need an admin to fix these. As far as I can tell, the ones from 1990-94 are affected.Potapych (talk) 15:36, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Template help for 1.0

Hi Tito, I was wondering if you could take a look at this discussion. We clearly need to amend the template, but I'd like to check that such a change wouldn't screw up the layout in the places where the template is used. I'm sure there are ways to check how and where this is used, but I'm very ignorant of such tools. Can you help?

Also, would you be up for an IRC discussion in mid-August on the release of Version 0.7? Thanks, Walkerma (talk) 05:22, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


No I will not stop doing what I must. I was making a merre simple edit to rectify the grammer and adjectives used in the article sunflower then I get this mad warning from you. You cant tell me to stop. You have no right. As per WP:RIGHTS —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.167.55.57 (talk) 10:13, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Tito, I posted to Jossi yesterday, but haven't had a response. If you have a chance, can you check the accuracy of my representations of the Spanish sources here? Thanks, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:28, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Battle of Berlin (air)

Instead of just reverting edits, how about you make a little input into the discussion? Or else, stay out of it? Dapi89 (talk) 22:33, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and you didn't even complete the reversal properly. Please join the talk page. Dapi89 (talk) 22:35, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Of course I did. You removed the note template in the information box. Now we have a missing template note for the footnotes. I can't revert again, as I'm on my third today. Dapi89 (talk) 22:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #19

Number 19, August 2, 2008

The Hurricane Herald

This is the monthly newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The Hurricane Herald aims to give a summary, both of the activities of the WikiProject and global tropical cyclone activity. If you wish to change how you receive this newsletter, or no longer wish to receive it, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list. This newsletter covers all of July 2008.

Please visit this page and bookmark any suggestions of interest to you. This will help improve monitoring of the WikiProject's articles.

Storm of the month

Hurricane Bertha near peak intensity
Hurricane Bertha near peak intensity

Hurricane Bertha was a rare early season Cape Verde-type hurricane and the easternmost forming July tropical storm on record. Bertha became the longest-lived pre-August Atlantic tropical cyclone on record and the longest-lived tropical cyclone in the Atlantic Basin since Ivan in 2004. The second named storm of the 2008 Atlantic hurricane season, Bertha developed from a tropical wave that emerged off the coast of Africa on July 1. After initially remaining weak while tracking westward, Bertha began to strengthen on July 6, and the next day it quickly intensified to reach peak winds of 120 mph (195 km/h). The hurricane weakened during the day on July 8, and after turning to a northwest drift, it passed within 40 miles (64 km) of Bermuda on July 14 before moving northeast away from the island. Bertha became extratropical on July 20 to the east of Newfoundland, after causing minimal damage and three indirect drowning deaths.

Other tropical cyclone activity

  • Northwestern Pacific Ocean – After several weeks of no activity, Typhoon Kalmaegi developed in the middle of the month, passing near northern Luzon before turning to the north and making landfalls on Taiwan and China; the typhoon caused heavy crop damage and 18 deaths. Later in the month, Typhoon Fung-Wong caused further flooding in Taiwan and China. In addition to the two named typhoons, PAGASA issued advisories on Tropical Depression Gener early in the month.
  • Eastern Pacific Ocean – Four named storms developed in the basin during the month, of which three became hurricanes; Hurricanes Elida, Fausto, and Genevieve, as well as Tropical Storm Douglas, all remained offshore, though in the middle of the month a tropical depression brought rainfall to Mexico after hitting near Lázaro Cárdenas, Michoacán. Hurricane Boris and Tropical Storm Cristina continued from the previous month.
  • Atlantic Ocean– In addition to Hurricane Bertha, two other tropical cyclones developed in the month. Tropical Storm Cristobal formed off the coast of Florida, bringing rainfall and gusty winds to coastal North Carolina and later Nova Scotia. The most damaging Atlantic tropical cyclone during the month was Hurricane Dolly, which formed on July 20 in the western Caribbean Sea. After tracking northwestward through the Gulf of Mexico, it reached peak winds of 100 mph (155 km/h) before moving ashore on South Padre Island, Texas. The hurricane caused flash flooding from heavy rainfall, with damage in the United States estimated at $1.2 billion; across its path Dolly caused 21 deaths, including 17 from landslides in Guademala, as well as two indirect fatalities.

Member of the month

Cyclone barnstar
Cyclone barnstar

The July member of the month is User:Plasticup. Joining the project in August of 2007, Plasticup first became an asset in working on the active article series on Hurricane Dean. After a period of inactivity, the user returned to produce two featured articles this month, both interesting meteorological histories. Additionally, Plasticup has focused some attention to articles in the 2005 season. Keep up the good work!

New members

Main Page content

Storm article statistics </noinclude>

Grade Apr May Jun Jul
FA 40 41 41 42
A 8 17 18 18
GA 131 129 135 139
B 103 101 96 15
C 0 0 3 98
Start 208 209 208 202
Stub 9 9 9 10
Total 499 506 510 524
ω 2.92 2.88 2.87 2.94
percentage
Less than C
43.5 43.1 42.5 40.5
percentage
GA or better
35.9 37.0 38.0 38.0

Project News
During July, there were two large changes to the operations of the WikiProject. First, WPTC adopted and helped develop the WP 1.0 B-Class criteria, and was among the first projects to use a "forced" B-Class rubric as part of their assessment schemes. This means that all the articles tagged with {{hurricane|class=B|...}} are automatically reassessed as {{C-Class}}, unless all the values in the checklist are marked as passed. In other words, to mark an article as B-Class, the banner needs to be changed to

{{hurricane |class=B |B1=yes |B2=yes  |B3=yes |B4=yes |B5=yes |B6=yes | ... }}

B1, B2, B3, B4, B5 and B6 stand for each of the six points in the WikiProject's rubric. The banner also has the capability to mark why an article doesn't meet the new B-Class standards: Typing the following in an article's talk page

{{hurricane |class=B |B1=no |B2=yes |B3=yes |B4=yes |B5=yes |B6=yes | ... }}

will assess an article as C-Class, and mark that the article is not a B because of bad references.

Articles assessed as B's before the introduction of the forced checklist were automatically reassessed as C's, but they're awaiting new reviews to check if they still meet the new B criteria. These articles are listed on Category:Tropical cyclone articles with incomplete B-Class checklists. Currently, there's 117 articles in the category—let's try to shrink that number to zero before the next edition of the Herald!

The other major change to the WikiProject was the addition of three task forces: the storm articles task force, season articles task force, and the tropical meteorology articles task force. These three task forces allow WPTC to see the progress of the different areas of the WikiProject. Currently, all 1,076 WPTC articles have been assigned to one of the three task forces, but any unsorted articles will be placed in Category:Unsorted tropical cyclone articles as they're tagged with {{hurricane}}.

In order to categorize an article, the banner needs to be modified from {{hurricane|...}} to:

{{hurricane |storms-task-force=yes | ... }}
{{hurricane |seasons-task-force=yes | ... }}
{{hurricane |meteo-task-force=yes | ... }}

which will sort the pages into the storms, seasons, and tropical meteorology task forces, respectively.

♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:30, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Offseason hurricanes

Yeah, its fine. I got lazy and stopped working on it, but that list does have most of the bigger storms. Hello32020 (talk) 23:11, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

It's 36, which is also in the article. I fixed it. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 13:05, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Coding for updated WP 1.0 bot

If you're interested in coding for the new bot, the script that needs the most work is list.pl, which needs to have a more general query interface (subsuming list2.pl). Would you feel comfortable working on that? Another, shorter, task would be to write the code to update the lists of GA, FA, and WP 0.5 articles. This info should be put into two new tables, one for FA/GA and another for WP 0.5/0.7/1.0. — Carl (CBM · talk) 18:29, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

I updated the backend files in svn this afternoon. I added (and tested) transaction support, so that either all the data for a project gets updated or none of it does. I also changed the way extra assessments are read, to use a template like I described earlier, and tested that.
If you're looking for a project to use to learn Perl, I'd recommend the script to download the lists of Good Articles and Featured Articles. You can use the existing database routines as a model for that, and it doesn't have as many complications as the CGI script. — Carl (CBM · talk) 21:51, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Overly drastic

... but the FBI's penalty for edit warring seems overly drastic.  :-) -- SEWilco (talk) 23:10, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

T

LEAVE ME ALONE I KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING.Compu34 (talk) 06:50, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Please check this out

You said you use a Mac, so could you look at any tropical cyclone season page and see if the small template looks right in Safari? I think I finally fixed the IE-style issues, but I believe that's the only picky browser.Potapych (talk) 21:21, 9 August 2008 (UTC)


Your GA nomination of Tropical Storm Olga (2007)

The article Tropical Storm Olga (2007) you nominated as a good article has passed , see Talk:Tropical Storm Olga (2007) for eventual comments about the article. Well done! Plasticup T/C 22:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

2004 Hurricane season

I've recently been criticised for promoting lists with even just one support - this list had plenty of comments but no support. So I didn't feel comfortable with promoting it. It still looks as if FLC is being used as WP:PR to a degree and that lists require two runs, one to get all the stuff fixed, the second to get sufficient support. There's nothing to stop the list being renominated. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:03, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Toolserveraccount

Hello Titoxd,
please send your real-name, your wikiname, your prefered login-name and the public part of your ssh-key to . We plan to create your account soon then. --DaB. 02:11, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

DYK: List of off-season Atlantic hurricanes

Updated DYK query On 13 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article List of off-season Atlantic hurricanes, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
--PFHLai (talk) 21:17, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

WP1.0 template

I just reassessed an article as C-Class and noticed that {{WP1.0}} isn't working for C-Class; see Talk:Northern Territory Can you fix that? Thanks, Walkerma (talk) 21:31, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Fixed. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 21:41, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! That was fast! Walkerma (talk) 22:48, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, as the template used the code at {{WP1.0/Version categories}}, I only had to make one change. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 22:52, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Help! <:)

Hey, I was wondering if you would be willing to spare a wiki-second and do a copy-edit of Odwalla. It's on GA review and Peer review right now, but I need all the suggestions I can get! Thanks! Intothewoods29 (talk) 02:16, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Commons and tracks

Hey,

I noticed you just had a quick hack at the track map template - its very overdue. However, the timing was a bit unfortunate, I'm about to go do exactly the same thing preparatory to uploading all damn tracks. I plan to make some substantial changes to it, which will make the information page much more useful.

I also plan to make the template a mandatory subst, as that will make adding non-english language descriptions a matter of simple edits as opposed to exponentially increasing the complexity of the template itself. I'll be working the replacement up at commons:User:Nilfanion/Tc. As part of all this I will run over all the images, both my new uploads and the existing ones and update them. Given this, I'd suggest you stop your cleaning up of the files for now and give any suggestions on the talk page of my workup on Commons.--Nilfanion (talk) 00:29, 22 August 2008 (UTC) I've got a basic layout to the template now. Sorting out the few odd outstanding points is trivial. However, I'd like feedback on the layout of the description section.--Nilfanion (talk) 22:37, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Who's ever played Eduard Friedrich Mörike's opera "Eduard auf dem Seil" ?

Hi, I'm looking for Eduard Friedrich Mörike's opera "Eduard auf dem Seil" (according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silpelit), but I can find any information, who ever has played it. If do you know any link to the information about performance this opera please drop me an e-mail at fazoo@o2.pl, because it seems till now, that nobody's played it ever. It's really important for me so I'd be thankful for any information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.9.92.72 (talk) 06:17, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

To be honest, I have no idea. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 08:00, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Hurricane Gustav

Hurricane Gustav already contains a second pink/red notice. -- Ned Scott 08:17, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I see what's going on now. -- Ned Scott 08:25, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Pacific hurricane season maps

I don't think those tags do anything, so I uploaded them to commons, changing the word 'maps' to 'summary'. You can delete the local copies now.Potapych (talk) 18:45, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Sure, as soon as I remember which ones they were... Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 20:26, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Image:1990 Pacific hurricane season map.png has moved to Image:1990 Pacific hurricane season summary.png. This was also done for the years up to 1994.Potapych (talk) 21:34, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Couple questions

Hey Tito, I'm curious: Who/When/How did the pre-WPTC group get snapped at for "clogging" Commons in the first place? From what you said in the Commons discussion its almost like WPTC was doing things (which would be deemed correct according to present Commons consensus) and got slapped for it and has followed the current approach ever since. Believe me when I say a category full of 50 track maps, unusued on any project is positively useful compared to some projects (commons:Category:Urination springs to mind); Commons has a major difficulty in deleting useless stuff :( It might well be best to upload the tracks to en, because local policy can get shot of the things after the storm. I'd not do that on Commons due to the tendency of projects other than en to hold onto the things - check out some of the Katrina articles if you care.

Also could you have a look at commons:User:Nilfanion/Tc please? I've done a trial on Image:Katrina 2005 track.png. I've got stumped with the explanation of the legend (it needs a copyedit!), and I'd like some feedback before I roll it out.--Nilfanion (talk) 21:43, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Since I know you watch the page, I'll reply here. As far as I can remember, what happened is that a few en.wp admins yelled at Golbez or Cyrius (I don't remember which one), and then they had to do a substantial cleanup here in en.wp. This was before we even started using Commons at all for image uploads. Then, when we moved, we continued using the then-current practice, continued to ask around, and nobody seemed to mind.
As for the Katrina track map: It looks good, but I'll see what I can do. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 22:11, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
OK thanks for that. I am tempted to think en might be a better place actually (as we can easily delete the tracks after the storm has gone). One problem I noticed on the track is low-contrast between Category 1 and the background colour of Template:Information. I suppose we could use thicker borders to the colour boxes or make a table-within-a-table. I'm rusty on table syntax though, so I'm not sure I can do the latter.--Nilfanion (talk) 22:32, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Not sure about deleting the images, but I played around with the caption on the Katrina track map, as well as added a border to the SSHS colors in the legend. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 23:06, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
OK, thanks for that. I think that gives me enough to finalise it before the roll-out, the only thing the template is missing is the source= parameter, which I can do easily. When that (and the uploads) are done, it will be <poke> time on the project page... I find that discussion over forecast tracks typical - no one else in the project appears to care to engage. To be honest, my biggest concern is the change in MediaWiki, which generates thumbnails of old versions: slow full page load should not happen with small GIFs.--Nilfanion (talk) 08:13, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #20

Number 20, September 6, 2008

The Hurricane Herald

This is the monthly newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The Hurricane Herald aims to give a summary, both of the activities of the WikiProject and global tropical cyclone activity. If you wish to change how you receive this newsletter, or no longer wish to receive it, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list. This newsletter covers all of August 2008.

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Storm of the month

Hurricane Gustav at landfall in western Cuba at peak strength
Hurricane Gustav at landfall in western Cuba at peak strength

Hurricane Gustav was a deadly and damaging hurricane which formed late in the month in the Caribbean Sea. It first struck Haiti on August 26 as a minimal hurricane, where it killed 76 people and damaged or destroyed over 10,000 houses. Gustav turned to the southwest, moving over Jamaica where it killed 11 people. The hurricane rapidly intensified to reach peak winds of 150 mph (240 km/h) before making landfall on western Cuba; in the country, Gustav damaged or destroyed over 100,000 houses, though no deaths were reported due to well-executed evacuations. In the Gulf of Mexico, Gustav weakened due to its previous land interaction, and on September 1 it made landfall in south-central Louisiana as a Category 2 hurricane, where it caused heavy damage. Across its path, the hurricane caused 101 deaths, with an initial damage total of $20 billion.

Other tropical cyclone activity

  • Atlantic Ocean– In addition to Gustav, three other tropical cyclones formed. Early in the month, Tropical Storm Edouard caused light damage when it moved ashore along Texas. In the middle of the month, Tropical Storm Fay formed over Hispaniola and later crossed over Cuba into the Gulf of Mexico; throughout the Caribbean it caused 25 deaths. Fay struck southwestern Florida, moved across the state, turned to the west, and moved across the Florida panhandle, making a record four landfalls on the state. The storm dropped 27.65 inches (702.1 mm) of rain in Melbourne, making Fay the fourth wettest Florida tropical cyclone. In the end of the month, Hurricane Hanna formed northeast of the Lesser Antilles; its impact will be covered in the next month's summary.
  • Eastern Pacific Ocean – Four named storms developed in the basin during the month, including Tropical Storm Kika, which was the first Central Pacific tropical cyclone since Ioke in 2006. Hurricane Hernan was the strongest hurricane of the month in the basin, reaching Category 3 status while remaining away from land. Tropical Storm Iselle lasted for a few days, but did not affect land. Tropical Storm Julio made landfall on Baja California Sur, producing heavy rainfall and causing two deaths.
  • Northwestern Pacific Ocean – The month began with Tropical Storm Kammuri forming and hitting southern China; the storm killed 140 people, mostly in neighboring Vietnam, and damage totaled $120 million (USD). Tropical Storms Phanfone and Vongfone lasted for a few days out at sea, before Typhoon Nuri formed and struck northern Luzon, causing 12 deaths.
  • 2008 North Indian Ocean cyclone season – A depression formed and struck Odisha.

Member of the month

Cyclone barnstar
Cyclone barnstar

The August member of the month is Cyclonebiskit, who has been on Wikipedia since April. The user helped maintain the current season articles as well as storm articles. Cyclonebiskit has written one GA, and wrote much of one of the recent tropical cyclone articles.

New and improved articles

Storm article statistics

Grade May Jun Jul Aug
FA 41 41 42 46
A 17 18 18 18
GA 129 135 139 147
B 101 96 15 15
C 0 3 98 99
Start 209 208 202 197
Stub 9 9 10 15
Total 506 510 524 537
ω 2.88 2.87 2.94 2.92
percentage
Less than C
43.1 42.5 40.5 39.5
percentage
GA or better
37.0 38.0 38.0 39.3

Version 0.7
This month, several of the WikiProject's articles were selected for the Version 1.0 Editorial Team's Version 0.7 static release. The article selection occurs using an automated process using WikiProjects' quality and importance assessments. For WPTC, this means that 29 articles will be part of this release, an increase from 13 in the previous release. It should be noted that these numbers are based on preliminary data that can change based on updates to the database and corrections to the selection algorithm and WP:1.0's cut-off score.

The list of articles chosen for the release can be seen here. Of the selection, almost half of the articles are already featured, and eleven are good articles. There one B-Class article (1970 Bhola cyclone, two C-Class articles (Hurricane Andrew, Cyclone Nargis), and two Start-Class articles (Pacific typhoon, Hurricane Rita). As these articles will be published in a CD, it is imperative that the project improve them quickly.

The full list of all the WikiProject's articles is also available here. According to that list, WPTC's highest-scoring article—Tropical cyclone—has a score of 1969, which is very good as Canada, the selection's highest-scoring article, has a score of 2,409. That said, Extreme wind warning is the least important article we have, with a score of 227, so we may have to improve it a little bit so it isn't that low...

♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 05:12, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

You said: "In spite of this, it is not possible to artificially induce the dissipation of these systems with current technology."

This statement is likely to be challenged, because there are already projects to control weather, such as the following: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnRPZOUVhJ4 -- IRP (talk) 00:14, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

USAD Article

Hi. I know for a long time you worked on this article (and are a very qualified copy-editor, or so I hear), so I thought you would be a good person to bring this request to. I just brought the article up to good article status and am looking to bring it to FAC soon. However, I wanted to have it looked over by someone familiar with FACs to let me know if there's anything I should change or correct. I was hoping that person could be you. But, if you are too busy to look over the article, that's fine. I will just submit for a regular peer review and hope for the best. I really don't think there's much else I could add by way of content. It's about as complete as it will get as far as I can tell. The things I am worried about are whether the fair-use images will be a problem and whether I have relied too heavily on the USAD website as a source for information. Will these prove to be too problematic? Anyway, do (or do not) the looking-over at your leisure. I am in no hurry. Thank you in advance if you decide to review the article! Also, this is something I've been curious about for quite a while. Which Arizona school did you compete with? CDO? St. Johns? MVM? Red Mountain? Dobson? ... etc? Anyway, thanks again. If you decide not to do this, then do have fun with your hurricane articles and such. ;) - Yohhans talk 02:23, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Will do later in the week. Right now I'm horribly busy with school and WP:1.0. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 05:08, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Alright. Thanks! And again, don't worry about getting it done any time soon. I am in no hurry. - Yohhans talk 05:31, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Still on my to-do list, I'm just a tad busy now. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 04:45, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Eh. No worries. I've got it up at PR right now, so if you want to comment on it there when you have the time, that would be easiest. But like I said, don't worry about timing. - Yohhans talk 17:33, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Help me fix a timeline

For some reason, the timeline at 1994 Pacific hurricane season#Timeline is not displaying properly, and I can't determine how to fix it. Could you please help me? Or if you can't, do you know someone who could? Thank you very much. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 04:34, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't have the faintest clue how to edit timelines, but asking at the Village Pump or the Help Desk might be a good idea. I'd point you to Erik Zachte, the creator of the EasyTimeline extension, but he seems rather inactive as of late. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 04:45, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

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