User talk:TheJoebro64/Archive 9

The Defenders GA

Hey there, I have just re-nominated The Defenders (miniseries) for GA. You said you would be willing to review it again at the end of the first review so just letting you know in case you are still interested and have the time. If not then I'm sure someone else will pick it up soon. Thanks, adamstom97 (talk) 04:28, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Adamstom.97, I've claimed it. It might be a few days before I get to it because I'm reviewing the Child (Star Wars) and Sega at the moment, but I will try really hard to get those done quickly. JOE BRO 64 11:19, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All good, no rush. Thanks! - adamstom97 (talk) 11:39, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Adamstom.97, I was just curious. After I review The Defenders, would you mind reviewing Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode I for me? I'm in the midst of rewriting it as we speak (in draftspace, it should be in the main article soon), so I should have it ready for GAN shortly. If you can't or don't want to, it's completely fine. JOE BRO 64 14:55, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I could do that for you, just let me know when you've nominated it. - adamstom97 (talk) 15:43, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/BioShock 2: Minerva's Den/archive1

Just a heads-up that I responded to your comments. Thanks, Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^talk 17:13, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You've reverted "Death Of A Nation

There's no reason for you to delete this film from the list !!!SAaphIrEblUE (talk) 16:12, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SAaphIrEblUE, look at the criteria on the talk page. There aren't any sources (besides the Metacritic rating) that refer to it as the worst film of all time. JOE BRO 64 16:14, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TheJoebro64 Besides Metacritic, there's also Variety, Rotten Tomatoes The Guardian SAaphIrEblUE (talk) 16:19, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SAaphIrEblUE, but they don't refer to it as the worst film of all time. It therefore does not meet the criteria for inclusion. Don't get me wrong, the film is dreadful, but it can't be included in the article because the sources do not exist. There was also consensus against including it in the past. JOE BRO 64 16:22, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TheJoebro64 Death of a Nation was nominated for four Golden Raspberry Awards — annual parody awards also known as the "Razzies" — and won two. What then is your basis for a film to be listed in "a worst film list"? ThanksSAaphIrEblUE (talk) 16:29, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SAaphIrEblUE, it needs to be called the worst film of all time by a variety of sources. The Razzies are an annual show about the films of a specific year. Worst of 2018 =/= worst of all time. See the talk page for more information on the inclusion criteria. JOE BRO 64 16:31, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TheJoebro64 By your definition then "Death of a Nation" qualifies as "worst film for 2018" as the heading in the film title (2018) indicates. Razzles is indicated in the main heading as one of the sources used for this criteria. And on what basis did you claimed that "it needs to be called the worst film of all time " when we are talking for the year 2018? (talk) 16:34, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

RogerEbert another movie reviewer, also listed Death Of A Nation as a "shabbily constructed and artistically bankrupt ... D'Souza's usual stew of cherry-picked facts, overt omissions, inept historical reenactments, slanders, innuendos, stuff taken from his earlier movies, shots of him walking pensively through empty areas and clips from other and better movies". He added that the documentary "could well be of service to future historians struggling to make sense of our current madness" refers to entries in Death_of_a_Nation_(2018_film) SAaphIrEblUE (talk) 16:58, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SAaphIrEblUE, that's not calling it the worst film of all time. I shouldn't need to repeat myself: the article is called "List of films considered the worst", meaning it compiles films that critics have explicitly referred to as "the worst of all time". Not worst of a genre, or worst of a year. Just "the worst" in general. They need to explicitly call it one of the worst films ever. Only one of the sources you cited actually did anything close to that (and even then, it was Metacritic's aggregate score, not a professional critic's opinion). I'm not explaining it again. JOE BRO 64 17:01, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TheJoebro64, What is the basis for it needs to be "the worst film of all time" when the Wiki title is "List of films considered the worst" and NOT "the worst of all time" as you claimed"? And Metacritic already stated that it is last on their list of worst films, and Metacritic is listed as one of the reviewer accepted on Wiki regarding this entry and I quote -"Examples of such sources include Metacritic, Roger Ebert's list of most-hated films, The Golden Turkey Awards, Leonard Maltin's Movie Guide, Rotten Tomatoes, the Stinkers Bad Movie Awards, the cult TV series Mystery Science Theater 3000, and the Golden Raspberry Awards (aka the "Razzies"). "SAaphIrEblUE (talk) 17:10, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TheJoebro64 Besides Metacritic and Vanity, publications like The A.V. Club, Variety, Chicago Tribune, and The Playlist listed "Death of a Nation" among the worst films of the year.Haaretz's Adrian Hennigan also criticeed the terrible quality of the film.Rotten Tomatoes stated the film holds an approval rating of 0% based on 13 reviews, with an average rating of 1.75/10.On Metacriti the film has a weighted average score of 1 out of 100, based on 8 critics, indicating "overwhelming dislike", while Peter Sobczynski of RogerEbert.com described Death of a Nation as "shabbily constructed and artistically bankrupt ..." Then Hollywood Reporter's Frank Scheck called the documentary "painfully unendurable" and that D'Souza's new film was more "hyperbolic and hysterical" than his past films, particularly with the claim that "Democrats... are merely fascists and Nazis, minus the cool iconography", while Bill Goodykoontz of The Arizona Republic described the documentary as "messy, unintentionally hilarious". These critics sure are credible for calling "Death Of A Nation" as a worst film if not for 2018, then for all times. Appreciate if you refrained from repetitive vandalisms of the entry.Thanks.SAaphIrEblUE (talk) 17:21, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SAaphIrEblUE, put that wall of text on the article talk page, not mine. I'm not explaining this (again) any further. JOE BRO 64 17:24, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:02, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you today for Super Mario All-Stars, introduced: ""Itsa me, a-Mario!" This is about a personal favorite of mine. Super Mario All-Stars is a video game compilation Nintendo released for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System in 1993. It's got the four classic Super Mario games released in the 1980s, which are known for helping shape the video game industry we know today. I grew up playing the Wii version, so I've got a big soft spot for it ..."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:03, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at Sony's Marvel Universe

Hello, User:TheJoebro64. I have began a series of discussion on the Talk:Sony's Marvel Universe page. There are several things that I feel the article could benefit from, and to avoid edit warring, I am taking them there. Cheers m8!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 00:41, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Doki Doki Panic was or wasn't a Mario prototype

The quote on the Super Mario Bros 2 page is from a book written by someone else that mentions Kohler's 2011 exchange. The article linked on the Super Mario page is the 2011 article written by Kohler about that exact topic. He doesn't say anywhere that Doki Doki was supposed to be a Mario game. All he says is it was a prototype based on Mario gameplay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aozf05 (talk • contribs) 20:17, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2020 Nintendo leak

Why was 2020 Nintendo leak moved to Draft:2020 Nintendo leak? Please {{ping}} me when you respond. --Jax 0677 (talk) 19:06, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Jax 0677: I moved it per consensus at WT:VG. I personally disagreed with the consensus and didn't want to move it back, but the rules are the rules. I'm going to move it back eventually, once there are more sources. JOE BRO 64 19:08, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reply - I disagree, but I think I might move it to History of Nintendo. --Jax 0677 (talk) 19:11, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Paper Mario: The Origami King

Please take a look at articles for upcoming games like Assassin's Creed Valhalla, Avengers, Cyberpunk 2077, Ghost of Tsushima, Halo Infinite, The Last of Us Part II, ect. Notice all of them have "upcoming video game" rather than "2020 video game" in the lead, this is the standard wording for all upcoming games. So please stop reverting "upcoming video game" back to "2020 video game" until the game is released, thanks. Also WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS can also apply to your edits as the year is already stated in the lead. TheDeviantPro (talk) 13:02, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TheDeviantPro, no, it doesn't. Your arguments are OTHERSTUFFEXISTS because your sole reasoning is that other articles do it, so don't try to make some abstract connection to my edits because you know I'm right. That's a terrible argument. See MOS:VG: "Include the original release year as part of the introduction to the topic." We don't need to follow the same robotic format for every single video game article. The next sentence states that it's upcoming. JOE BRO 64 13:15, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT: I’ve introduced a compromise. JOE BRO 64 13:48, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Sonic the Hedgehog

The article Sonic the Hedgehog you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Sonic the Hedgehog for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Indrian -- Indrian (talk) 19:20, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Newsletter Interview

Hey Joe. Was wondering if you would be interested in being interviewed for the Video Game WikiProject Newsletter. GamerPro64 23:46, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GamerPro64, of course! Thanks for asking. I'd be honored. JOE BRO 64 00:18, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Great. Ill let you know when the questions are written out. GamerPro64 00:26, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sonic the Hedgehog

How am I disruptive editing? You don't call Call of Duty or Halo an American franchise, do you? Calling Sonic a Japanese media franchise is unnecessary. I edited it to "owned by Japanese video game commpany Sega" because that sounds more eloquent.

Smash, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Based on your talk page, you've been warned about removing "Japanese", "Canadian", etc. in the past but retaining or adding "American". JOE BRO 64 12:00, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Draft:Just Dance 2021

Hello TheJoebro64. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Draft:Just Dance 2021, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: plenty of sources say that this isn't an obvious hoax/vandalism. . Thank you. Ged UK 07:20, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ged UK, what? It hasn't been announced, and there are no sources that say it's actually a thing. The IP who created it also created a ton of hoax draft articles and was blocked for a year as a result. JOE BRO 64 11:53, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Once a CSD has been declined by an admin, you really shouldn't re-add the CSD tag; you should take it to a different forum. Ged UK 11:02, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Sonic CD's placement in the timeline.

Hello sir. Regarding Sonic CD's placement in the timeline between Sonic 3 and Knuckles and Sonic 4 Episode 1, you've mentioned that Sonic Retro isn't a reliable source and that Ken Balough wasn't involved with the game. While I can understand that you don't find Sonic Retro being a reliable source, stating that Ken Balough wasn't involved with the game isn't completely true as he was Sonic 4's brand manager and was a bit involved with the game's development as well (e.g.- providing feedback).

I think it's also worth noting that Ken Balough wouldn't be stating that Sonic CD is a prequel to the Sonic 4 Saga out of thin air, as it's most likely that SEGA/the Dev team themselves revised CD's placement in the timeline and he's just going by what he has been told by them. Furthermore, like I stated before, the interview where CD's Special Stage designer mentions that CD takes place between Sonic 1 and Sonic 2 is really old and it's something that SEGA/Sonic Team themselves haven't acknowledged in years. If Sonic CD does indeed take place between the events of the first two games, then surely there would be no reason to revise it as a prequel to Sonic 4.

Also in a recent video, a fan of the series discusses the placement of Sonic CD in the timeline as well, even going to the point of asking Ken Balough where the game took place in the timeline when Sonic 4 was being made. In the video Ken specifies that when Sonic 4 was being made the idea was that the game would take place between Sonic 3 & Knuckles and Before Sonic 4 Episode 1. While it can be debated if the information provided in this video is true or false, the wikipedia page for Sonic 4 Episode 2 mentions that, Sonic 4 Episode 3 was cancelled at some point using screenshots of messages between a Sonic fan and Balough himself as evidence provided by TSSZ News. So if screenshots like these can be used as a source of information as to why Sonic 4 Episode 3 was never made, then I think that the video could be used as evidence as well. Unfortunately I'm unable to link the video in this post as whenever I tried to post this message, I was presented with an error (the video title in question is "Sonic CD Before Sonic 2 or AFTER Sonic 3&K?").

EDIT: The Wikipedia Page for Sonic 4 Episode 2 also mentions this: " In preparation for Episode II's release, Sega re-released Sonic the Hedgehog CD to digital platforms in late 2011, billing it as a 'prequel' to Sonic 4, as the events of Episode II would rely heavily on what occurred in CD."

@Sonicfan2020: you need a reliable source that states this. A random YouTuber who says he asked Balough when it took place is not a reliable source. TSSZ News isn't reliable either, so that content should be removed from the Episode II article. JOE BRO 64 11:41, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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DKC Rerelease Comparison

Hi! Thanks for adding File:DKCRereleaseComparison.png. Would you please consider uploading the images individually though? This way they could be displayed in a Template:Gallery, improving WP:ACCESSIBILITY. Thanks! :) ~ Arkhandar ^{(message me)} 19:58, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Arkhandar, per WP:NFCC #3, the use of non-free content should be kept to a minimum, so I think it's better to have a single image instead of three. This is what I've done with articles like Sonic Adventure and Super Mario All-Stars, both of which are FAs. JOE BRO 64 20:36, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@TheJoebro64: I see. However, the wording in WP:NFCC 3a. is rather ambiguous and doesn't mention this case specifically. Because, technically, in this case, we're already uploading 3 distinct items, with 3 distinct copyrights, but in a single edited image file (which doesn't invalidate the former). I'm not sure if the authors of this minimal use rule were referring and thinking of such cases when writing this, but rather to avoid having unnecessary non-free content. At least, in legal terms, it makes no difference whether you upload 3 single files or 1 file containing 3 different works at the same resolution and distributed in the same channels. ~ Arkhandar ^{(message me)} 21:17, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Zack Snyder's Justice League

Hello! Your submission of Zack Snyder's Justice League at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 05:37, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Needs QPQ. Ping me once it's done and I'll approve the nom. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 05:37, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Sonic the Hedgehog

The article Sonic the Hedgehog you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Sonic the Hedgehog for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Indrian -- Indrian (talk) 07:21, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:POINT?

Hey Joe,

How does that] violate that particular point in WP:POINT? It's not the same source discussed (it's not even a single source). François Robere (talk) 15:31, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

François Robere, the quote boxes popped out as POINTy to me because they seemed, as the guideline states, to be intended to provoke newcomers to the discussion to vote against Fox's reliability. If that wasn't your intent, I apologize and wouldn't have a problem with you adding them back (though I would think it's better if you added them to the dedicated subsection about Fox studies). JOE BRO 64 17:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Thanks. François Robere (talk) 11:15, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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3RR warning

Your recent editing history at Zack Snyder's Justice League shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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I suggest you start a discussion on the article talk page to has this out. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 11:47, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT: I've since seen that you posted a 3RR warning here. I trust you will be following your own advice on this matter. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 11:49, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jasca Ducato, Mtj456 should've started the discussion per WP:BRD (he's the one who started the edit war, I'm the one following protocol). Nonetheless, since he isn't getting the point I've started one. JOE BRO 64 12:22, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Half-Life

You know, I think you'd probably have enough material for an article on cancelled HL games now... Popcornfud (talk) 12:20, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Popcornfud, wow. I was totally confused by this at first, then realized I could just use Google... my oh my. I'm preoccupied with two projects at the moment though (Donkey Kong Country and Donkey Kong Jungle Beat). JOE BRO 64 12:25, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm desperate to learn all the secrets, but I still haven't played Alyx so it'll have to wait until I'm spoiler-proof... Popcornfud (talk) 12:29, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Are you still thinking of doing this? If not, I'm thinking of doing it myself, because the subsection in Half-Life (series) has become seriously long and ungainly. Popcornfud (talk) 11:36, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Afraid I got impatient. Popcornfud (talk) 12:18, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Popcornfud, took a glance at that article and it looks nice! I'll try to help flesh it out later this week. JOE BRO 64 13:17, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TheJoebro64, there's already a challenge to whether it should have been forked, so maybe hold your horses there. Popcornfud (talk) 13:20, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Expansion tag

Hey, just FYI-- I originally removed the tag because I interpreted it as being applied for the entire reception section and not just the reviews piece of it. Completely fine with you putting it back in-- thanks for the rvv there. Nomader (talk) 22:11, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomader, no problem. IIRC there was a subheader when I originally added it, which seems to have been removed. JOE BRO 64 17:37, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Zack Snyder's Justice League

On 12 July 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Zack Snyder's Justice League, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after years of fan lobbying, the director's cut of Zack Snyder's 2017 film Justice League will be released on HBO Max? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Zack Snyder's Justice League. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Zack Snyder's Justice League), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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WWE 2K

You may want to join the discsssion at Talk:List of video games notable for negative reception instead of blindly reverting information.--JOJ ^Hutton 14:17, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Edit themes section of BvS

You created the themes section for the Batman v Superman page. I have expanded the section. Your first source from Richard Brody takes the most space out of any of the sources on the themes section. His view is also not shared by anyone else I can find. I assume you put his analysis first because it is from the New Yorker. I think his quote and analysis should be reduced and moved to later in the section, because I can't find another source that agrees with it, and there are several more sources that have the opposite view of the political themes. If you have any recommendations on how to solve this issue, feel free to give them. I also think the themes section could be expanded much more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pineapple4321 (talk • contribs) 18:56, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Joker for GA

I have decided to nominate the page, Joker (2019 film), as a Good Article nominee. As I am not a frequent editor on its page, I have been told to talk to the editors who have worked the most on it. According to the statistics, you have added and edited 34.4% of the page. I wanted to leave this here when the nomination went up so you could join the discussion as soon as possible. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 12:52, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Some Dude From North Carolina, hello! I won't stop you from nominating it, but I wanted to say that I don't think the article is ready for GA yet. There's still a lot of production information that's missing, there may be some unreliable sources cited, the post-release needs to be fleshed out, and some sections probably need some rewriting. JOE BRO 64 13:09, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just a heads up

I replied in that Sonic Retro thread. Popcornfud (talk) 30 August 2020 (UTC)

@Popcornfud: that was a pleasant surprise! Nice to see you there! I probably should've let you know I brought it up there, now that I think about it. JOE BRO 64 00:30, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TheJoebro64, no problemo! Popcornfud (talk) 12:57, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nephew "edit warring"

Precisely where is this phantom interview where Gregg Mayles stated that? Even if it does exist, it is certainly not anywhere that happened until way into the late 90's, far after the SNES games were released, much less in that {{sfn|Owsen|1994}} citation. Something that is really this plainly observable doesn't need a discussion - my edit summaries are entirely sufficient to show that you are demonstrably not reading what you are reverting - but I have a moment to elaborate why you are completely incorrect. As already explained, the idea that Diddy Kong is DK's nephew first showed up in 1999, specifically within Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 64, and even then, this appears to be a translation error because the original Japanese version does not mention it. English version: "In the past few years, other members of the Kong family have cashed in on DK’s fame as well, including his favorite nephew, Diddy." Compare Japanese: 「パックにはディディーを始め、ユニークなコングファミリーが控えている。」 (roughly: Starting with Diddy of the pack, [members of] the unique Kong family wait ahead.) - the "RARE" credit in Super Smash Bros. is for "'Donkey Kong Country' Original Sound Composing" and "Rendered 3-D Donkey Kong Character used with permission of Rare." This would probably explain Leigh Loveday's confusion mere months later in the Rare Scribes mailbag I linked to, which is the first mention of Rare adopting this brief stance: "P.S. Diddy's DK's nephew, I think," indicating he is not quite so sure about it himself. I can't ascertain the chronological order of the next two mentions, but I'll go with what I believe makes more sense. A Donkey Kong 64-related blurb on Rare's website describes Diddy Kong as "DK's nephew", but the Donkey Kong 64 instruction booklet packaged with the actual game writes it off as "Donkey’s little nephew wannabe" - or more accurately, Diddy idolizes DK to the point that he wants to be his nephew. And those are about the only times you will see references to Diddy Kong being DK's nephew, with the first being a likely translation error, the second being obvious confusion, and then one obscure profile stating that he is DK's nephew and another stating that he is not. You can look everywhere else - you will not find it anywhere, making it even less prevalent than the "Cranky is DK's father" and "Golden Bananas were always part of the banana hoard" inconsistencies popularized around the N64 era that are generally accepted as false. TL;DR: current information strongly suggests the idea of Diddy being DK's nephew was abandoned almost as soon as it started, only being used in the English localization of one Japanese-developed game in which Diddy did not make an appearance, and was absolutely never used again (and it never made sense in the first place, with DK being a gorilla and Diddy clearly not one); you would do well to revert your own mistake, and maybe add more of this information on the Diddy Kong article to clear up possible further confusion. Metalsonic89 (talk) 19:10, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Shadow the Hedgehog

Hey, can you please restore the subsections I added to the Shadow article? I believe they make the page look much cleaner and more organized. The Irate Communist (talk) 17:08, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Irate Communist, I don't really agree. IMO there's not enough information to be in subsections, and I think the article looks much cleaner without them. Also it's in line with other VG character articles, like Doomfist. JOE BRO 64 22:25, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Heyo!

Heyo! thanks for your contribution's to Wikipedia, do you want a cookie? TheSecretImpostor (talk) 14:04, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@TheSecretImpostor: munch munch, thank you very much JOE BRO 64 14:05, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games § Revisiting the Sonic the Hedgehog and Sakura Wars GT/FT proposals

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Paper Mario: The Origami King

Hello! I sent Paper Mario: The Origami King for a review for GA status. Looking at the history of the article, it seems you were one of the founding fathers that kept the article in check. If there's anything you suggest adding, changing, or removing, just let me know. Also, before making major changes, we should rather discuss it on the talk page first. I don't want to deal with edit warring from other users. Le Panini ^Talk 17:30, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Le Panini, hey! The article looks pretty good, but has it received a copyedit? There's tons of messy prose. E.g.: "The game was praised for the game's design and concept, and critiqued on the sway from its original RPG gameplay roots." I'd run it through the GOCE if I were you. Good luck on the nomination though! JOE BRO 64 18:39, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TheJoebro64, I fixed that one quote, and asked GOCE for additional help. Thanks for the feedback! Le Panini ^Talk 19:11, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sonic 4 articles

So, while I managed to withdraw my merge discussion for the Sonic 4 articles, I’m thinking about working with you on the individual articles as part of my projects to get the Sonic topic up to GT/FT. Come to think of it, the two articles (especially Episode II) might need some work in the development sections and could use some copyediting. Thoughts?

Thanks in advance, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:16, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sjones23, Episode I is almost ready for GA, it just needs a rewritten reception section and sources for gameplay. I'm planning to come back to the articles sometime in the near future, I've just got other projects first. JOE BRO 64 03:11, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your thoughts on the matter. Take as much time as you need. Best wishes, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 03:14, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Back at it again with the Paper Mario: The Origami King vans

Hello, I hope you aren't busy, because I'd appreciate your help. You've gotten a message from me a while back (that you'll see if you look up, like two) about advice before submitting for GA review. You suggested a GOCE review, and, uh, still waiting on that. Now, it's a good article, and I thought, why stop there? I started a peer review readying the article for a featured article; yep, FA. It's gonna be difficult apparently, I gotta lot to do before nomination. I'm taking it slow, though. For example, ring-style combat is stupid and has to be explained somehow, and the reception needs a good second look that I'll get to in a bit. If you could help out, I'd appreciate it. Only if you want to, though. I've got PresN for guidance. Le Panini ^Talk 05:18, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Le Panini, I'll help out later this week. Yeah the GOCE takes a while, they've got quite the backlog. JOE BRO 64 14:36, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TheJoebro64, Yeah, to the point where I have to go back and update why I want a review. Le Panini ^Talk 16:23, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hannibal

You're good at character articles. I've been doing a bit of picking on the Hannibal Lecter article and I'm thinking about doing a radical rewrite. Would that be something you might be interested in helping with? Popcornfud (talk) 12:44, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Popcornfud, I would be interested! I've never watched any of the Lecter movies or read the books, so I'll probably need to watch Silence of the Lambs before I start. JOE BRO 64 15:14, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Like many things I edit articles about, I’m not a particular fan of the character, but I end up sucked into the editing. Feel free to contribute as much or as little as you like. Even if you haven’t seen any of the movies. Popcornfud (talk) 16:35, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Patrol December Newsletter

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Year in review

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A barnstar for you!

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		Your work on Sonic the Hedgehog is phenomenal! Congratulations on the amazing job getting an FA on an article with such a high degree of difficulty, and such an important one to to the coverage of Sega on Wikipedia at that. Red Phoenix ^talk 22:03, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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@Red Phoenix: thank you so much! I couldn't have done it without your help. Now I can take a nice rest. JOE BRO 64 22:10, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And a well deserved one at that. Crack open a cold one and kick back for a bit, you've earned it. Red Phoenix ^talk 22:15, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nintendo pages can only dream of having editors like this. Popcornfud (talk) 01:09, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Popcornfud, we do what Nintendon't. Couldn't have been possible without you, either—thanks to your copy-editing I don't think I had to get into arguments about grammar and/or words at all. JOE BRO 64 01:23, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Screenshots

I don't get it, why would only gameplay screenshots go on the left? I've never seen that discussed or written down anywhere. Popcornfud (talk) 22:49, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Popcornfud, I mean, on every single article I’ve seen with gameplay screenshots, the screenshots are aligned to the left. I’m not sure if it’s been discussed; it just seems to be the practice. I may be a bit biased because it’s so common, but I think it looks ugly when they’re on the right: the screenshot is pushed down by the infobox, and it’s immediately at the beginning (providing readers with a quick reference). JOE BRO 64 02:03, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, checking a random selection of game articles does seem to follow that pattern. I'd never noticed that before.

I'm not convinced it's great, though, for a few reasons. The first is that, as a general rule, images look better on the right, imo, because this reflects the left-to-right reading order. The second is that having images immediately below a header knocks the text out of alignment. The third is that images should really support the prose, rather than the other way around, so starting a section with an image is putting the cart before the horse.

Also, on my laptop screen, the image is not pushed down by the infobox. It's aligned perfectly with the Gameplay section. Are you viewing on a super small display?

I wonder where this pattern emerged - I am slightly suspicious it's just something someone started doing and it just sorta congealed into a pattern dogmatically, rather than emerging as a result of considered consensus. I used to order images in alternating left to right in articles, thinking a bit of variation was nice, until I realised that variation for the sake of variation is pointless at best and disruptive at worst.

Happy holidays, btw. Popcornfud (talk) 02:31, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Metroid

Do you feel like doing any work on Metroid? It's already GA, but in my opinion not in great shape, and I've already deleted thousands of words from it. In my view it needs a total rewrite. I'm using the Sonic page and structure as a model for how to do it, as that page is so comprehensive and such a pleasure to scan through. Popcornfud (talk) 22:01, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Popcornfud, I'd love to, but I'm not sure if I should get into it just yet. I've never played the Metroid games, and I'm working on a massive rewrite of Darkseid right now and am a bit afraid I'll get distracted and never finish it (like my Borat draft, though I am definitely coming back to that soon). I definitely will try to take a look at the article soon; also, thanks for the kind words about the Sonic article! JOE BRO 64 22:30, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OK! Oh man, get yourself an emulator and play Zero Mission or Fusion, stat. Popcornfud (talk) 22:34, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) I recommend Zero Mission or the original Metroid Prime; both are a lot of fun. Zero Mission is a remake of the original, so it's a good way to get started. Red Phoenix ^talk 03:37, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Red Phoenix: thanks for the recommendation! JOE BRO 64 15:10, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just started replaying Zero Mission. Instantly absoring. I challenge any fan of action-adventure stuff not to be sucked into this. Popcornfud (talk) 22:32, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Popcornfud, I'll be starting it tonight. I'll DM you on Discord to let you know what I think. JOE BRO 64 22:05, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

TheJoebro64, I expect your first Metroid edits by Monday morning. Popcornfud (talk) 22:19, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Popcornfud: you wouldn't mind doing some copyedits at User:TheJoebro64/drafts/Darkseid, would you? I'll definitely return the favor somehow. JOE BRO 64 15:10, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

TheJoebro64, I'll take a look. FWIW I've never heard of this character before so perhaps some totally fresh eyes will be a useful perspective... or I'll just misunderstand everything and ruin it. Popcornfud (talk) 16:20, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Locking of the Sonic CD discussion in the Sonic template talk

I disagree with your assertion that it's "the exact same conversation we've had like ten times by now. No new points or compelling arguments have been brought up". If you read the talk page, nobody had previously brought up that article I posted in which it's revealed that the game was specifically made the way it was to be set apart from the core Sega Sonic games. And Sergecross73 and I were debating on the meaning and significance of that until you locked it. Other people could eventually have joined the discussion and offered their view on the new information as well. Endianer (talk) 00:29, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Endianer, all of the points you made just regurgitated the previous arguments that have been made on the subject, and like Serge said, the source does not support the notion that 3D Blast is a spin-off. Also, may I ask if this is your first and only Wikipedia account? I find it highly suspicious that you'd find your way to the template talk page right after joining and only making ten edits, especially considering that they have been issues with sockpuppet accounts at the same page regarding the same exact subject. JOE BRO 64 01:07, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Late reply, but I direct you to my talk page. All of those things were addressed there last week. Endianer (talk) 07:26, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]