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Archive:4 March 2010 - 13 March 2010

Welcome

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Hello SuperSonicSpeed, and Welcome to Wikipedia!

Welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you enjoy the encyclopedia and want to stay. As a first step, you may wish to read the Introduction.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask me at my talk page — I'm happy to help. Or, you can ask your question at the New contributors' help page.

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SuperSonicSpeed, good luck, and have fun. --Dave ♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 22:40, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sandbox

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Why did you just do this? Why are you editing my sandbox?--Jac16888Talk 18:09, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I thought it was for everyone ChaosControl1994 (talk) 18:10, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How did you even find it? Wikipedia:Sandbox is for everyone, or you could just make your own at User:ChaosControl1994/Sandbox. Which you already have done.--Jac16888Talk 18:11, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Deleted page link. Sorry for the hassle. ChaosControl1994 (talk) 18:13, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vandal patrolling

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Hey, nice work with the AIV reports. We need folks like you and you're doing a valuable service. However, the way you're reporting the users makes it a bit difficult for us admins to follow up on your reports. Here's the suggested format from the comments in WP:AIV: 

Please copy and paste an appropriate example to the very bottom of the page.

Anonymous Users (IP addresses):
* {{IPvandal|IP address}} brief reason for listing (keep it short) ~~~~

Registered Users:
* {{Vandal|username}} optional brief reason for listing (keep it short) ~~~~
* {{Userlinks|username}} optional brief reason for listing (keep it short) ~~~~

This way it is easier for us to follow up on these highly valuable reports. Keep up the good work! Toddst1 (talk) 21:05, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the help and good work down in AIV blocking the vandals :) ChaosControl1994 (talk) 21:07, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Benz Viktoria

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Hello ChaosControl1994. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Benz Viktoria, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Article needs expanding or maybe redirecting, but it's not a hoax - see File:Benz Viktoria.jpg. Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 19:56, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles for deletion nomination of Uncharted 3 (video game)

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I have nominated Uncharted 3 (video game), an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Uncharted 3 (video game). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. ukexpat (talk) 20:27, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppets

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Ummm, please read WP:SOC to find out rules for alternate accounts. It's not against the rules per se. noisy jinx huh? 20:55, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel Charles Whitbread

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Just to say that I've declined a speedy deletion tag you placed on the above-captioned article, but I wanted to mention that the material that caused me to decline it was placed there after you tagged it. The article is a very brief stub still, but has an "under construction" tag and sufficient notability to meet the guidelines. If you have any questions or problems, I'm at your service. Accounting4Taste:talk 20:58, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Final warning on User talk:Aa42john

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I'm not sure the "final warning" for disruptive editing on User talk:Aa42john's talk page is justified [1]. Although there are previous speedy deletion warning tags on that page, only one of them turned out to be warranted. The other articles were kept - one of them through an AfD - so those previous warnings weren't valid. Also, the current speedy deletion tag for no indication of notability on Joe Glenton isn't really correct - because he has indicated why (he believes) he's notable, although whether he actually is or not is obviously another question. The talk page notes that he might not warrant an article for WP:BLP1E, but that is a different reason than CSD A7, which is the one given on the speedy deletion tag. Note also that he's also politely accepted other advice on his talk page as well. Could you have a look at it again and remove the warning (not the deletion tag, just the final warning) if you agree. 92.6.218.120 (talk) 22:40, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the warning in good faith. ChaosControl1994 (talk) 08:41, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lemaymedia

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I'm not sure you're level 4 warning on User:Lemaymedia was quite justified. Ok so he removed a CSD you'd added to one film article and then created an article about the director of the film which I nominated for CSD. An appropriate level 1 for removing the CSD and another for possibly creating inappropriate articles is fair enough but the series of actions doesn't merit a level 4 straight off. NtheP (talk) 13:25, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'll keep that in mind, thanks :) ChaosControl1994 (talk) 13:26, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No sweat. I just have to keep reminding myself about WP:BITE and vow never to become an admin, there are times when I'd be far too trigger happy with the block button :-) NtheP (talk) 13:28, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's just one of those things where you see a user making more than one inappropriate edit and then you just jump straight to {{uw-create4im}}. I'm sure everyone does it from time to time and that's how we learn from our mistakes so that we don't get to comfortable. ChaosControl1994 (talk) 13:33, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:Brian o donohue

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Don't you think a final warning for a first offense is over kill? I generally give the full template progressive unless they create and attack page. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 15:21, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the warning and have given the user a slap on the wrist with some advice and no {{uw-create}} template. ChaosControl1994 (talk) 19:42, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

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That was nice. Toddst1 (talk) 15:42, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your welcome :). People like you at WP:AIV deserve the credit for protecting Wikipedia against vandals/"inappropriate edit" only accounts. ChaosControl1994 (talk) 19:43, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Twinkle

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Hey, we have a tool called twinkle that will help you wit a lot of the work you do here. It makes it much easier to both warn disruptive editors as well as to report disruptive editors to WP:AIV, Wikipedia:UAA or WP:SPI to with a just a couple of clicks. Check it out. Just remember that the same protocols in issuing warnings still apply even though you can warn 10x as many editors in the same amount of time. Good luck. Toddst1 (talk) 15:48, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey thanks, think I'll check it out. ChaosControl1994 (talk) 19:44, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Judicial Reform

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Hello ChaosControl1994. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Judicial Reform, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The reason given is not a valid speedy deletion criterion. Thank you. PeterSymonds (talk) 18:24, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Silence is golden

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On the talk page of Sean Edgar (talk · contribs), mum's the word~! --Dave ♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 21:09, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean by that? ChaosControl1994 (talk) 21:10, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, never knew that. Thanks for your help Dave :) ChaosControl1994 (talk) 21:12, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry. ChaosControl1994 (talk) 21:17, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Already taken care of. ChaosControl1994 (talk) 21:22, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Don't bite

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Please try not to bite the newcomers, as you did in this edit. If you wish to help new editors then please give them advice, not threats, especially for something they haven't done. Canterbury Tail talk 21:18, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, didn't spot that. Canterbury Tail talk 21:28, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have apologized to Sean Edgar on his talk page. ChaosControl1994 (talk) 21:31, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Help me, please!

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I don't know whats happening. I'm the editor of my school newspaper. I was just trying to create a page for it. Am I not supposed to? Also, what were you saying about the username? I'm not a vandal, I'm just really confused. I don't want to be deleted. Please help!

P.S. If I'm not supposed to have put this message here, please forgive me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheOcadian (talk • contribs) 21:48, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You did the right thing by asking me. The newspaper is not notable enough to be on Wikipedia, hence the speedy and your username is the same as the paper and the admins can trace that which is why I suggested a name change at WP:Changing username. Don't feel guilty about writing on the talk page, I'm here to help. ChaosControl1994 (talk) 21:52, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed the username report against you from WP:UAA so that I can give you a lifeline. ChaosControl1994 (talk) 21:57, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Does that mean I can keep the username, or should I still change it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheOcadian (talk • contribs) 22:02, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The page hasn't been removed yet so I suggest changing it as the admins can revert my edit on the username report page. ChaosControl1994 (talk) 22:04, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note to "TheOcadian", here's what to expect from Wikipedia... note this is not a forum or website for anyone to be promoting anything, which per our policy on WP:ADVERT, WP:SPAM & WP:SPAMLINK, is liable to be removed and the editor BLOCKED. Furthermore, the website might be blacklisted by Wikipedia and several other search engines for reasons obvious. Another thing, if you wish to write about this article, my suggestion is that you change to another username to start it in your private capacity. If you were to do so in your official capacity, you are subjected to another editing policy of Wikipedia, that is a conflict of interest issue. It may sound like a lot of minefield lying about here on Wikipedia but really, all it takes is you taking your time to read through the welcome section, which I will be providing you, in order to make a better decision on what to do and what not. If there is any other thing that you might find in need of clarification, please feel free to ask. Thank you. --Dave ♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 22:06, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for help, guys! I just have one more question. How do I change my username? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheOcadian (talk • contribs) 22:16, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Go to the bottom of the page at Wikipedia:Changing username and request for it to be changed to whatever you want it to. ChaosControl1994 (talk) 22:18, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can I have a word with you?

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Well? --Dave ♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 22:21, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, whats up? ChaosControl1994 (talk) 22:22, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I will focus more on editing and vandalism patrolling. ChaosControl1994 (talk) 22:27, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • A piece of advice, watch and learn but don't do anything until you get the hang of it, what is your sandbox for otherwise? And if you're still not sure, type this → {{help}} ← here and someone (most probably an Administrator) will come along to assist, okay? --Dave ♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 22:32, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, thanks for the advice and my sandbox is for people to edit long term without deletion of their work. ChaosControl1994 (talk) 22:34, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Everybody else can use it though I use it from time to time. ChaosControl1994 (talk) 22:39, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just a thought... if you own a cat, would your cat use someone else's sandbox to pee/poop in? FYI, I read your earlier brush with someone who wasn't quite happy with what you did on theirs. Not funny, right? Note: Be courteous, always remember this when editing here on Wikipedia. Cheers~! --Dave ♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 22:47, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
At the time I was unaware that his sandbox was for personal uses only. ChaosControl1994 (talk) 22:49, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Barnstar

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Thank you very much! :) I'll do my best. --Egmontaz♤ talk 22:51, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy notice

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Resolved
 – Eddstonham (talk · contribs) and his sock User Eddstonham (talk · contribs) was blocked indefinitely for using Wikipedia for unambiguous advertising, as well as personal attacks on User:Dave1185

not sure why you put a speedy delete on my article...I am unaware why it has an issue. Eddstonham (talk) 00:08, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment was initially posted to userpage. Moved here. noisy jinx huh? 00:11, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Edd was warned by me on his talk page for using Wikipedia for the purpose of unambiguous advertising by creating such article, the page has since been re-tagged as WP:CSD#G11. --Dave ♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 02:05, 7 March 2010 (UTC) (PS: So much of the chaos created could have been avoided had some editor around here bothered to ask around first instead of acting like a one-man-army!)[reply]
  • I am protesting the tag. The article will never be deleted, and even if it is, I will just start a new one. Dave1185 has got to be the lamest editor on all of Wikipedia! I can use bold text too, whoopie, moron. Eddstonham (talk) 03:39, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • If I were you, I wouldn't say those things about other editors. Dave1185 is a great editor who is trying to make Wikipeida better for everyone and calling him "lame" won't make anything better at all. ChaosControl1994 (talk) 09:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sandbox

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The sandbox is for experiments; personal attacks such as this are not acceptable anywhere. Also there is a page at User talk:Sandbox for user warnings for testing of warning and blocking messages. snigbrook (talk) 17:31, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nasr-1

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nasr-1 missile was introduced today. do a little research , ok? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sasani2 (talk • contribs) 18:15, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies, I don't watch the news. ChaosControl1994 (talk) 18:16, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

{{helpme|I had my name changed from ChaosControl1994 and my contributions and watchlist items have disappeared. How do I restore them?}} SuperSonic SPEED 18:49, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Because your username changed, your contributions and watchlist items moved to your new username, SuperSonicSpeed (see Special:Contributions/SuperSonicSpeed). Log off, and log on as that username and you will see everything. Please let me know if there are any more questions. Thanks! --Mysdaao talk 18:59, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tree-preneur

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I've taken your SD tag off this, 'cos it's not vandalism. The term may or may not be notable, but it does exist in South Africa. I'm looking for some refs now to add to it as it seems an interesting concept. If I can't find them, it may have to go - but as non-notable. Peridon (talk) 20:34, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Briol & Associates, PLLC

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I noticed that you put a (perfectly valid) CSD tag on this article as it has no content other than the title. With articles like this, where it is not blatently obvious that the article won't be eligable for inclusion, it is normally better to wait for 10-15 minutes before tagging it (you tagged it only a minute after creation), as articles like this are often expanded shortly after creation. Jhbuk (talk) 19:30, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up. SuperSonic SPEED (formerly known as ChaosControl1994). 19:31, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy on that Chaotic game

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It's not spam, it's a dupe - somebody copy/pasted from Chaotic. I changed it to {{db-same}} with a pointer, in hopes it's nuked and recreated as a redir. --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 21:30, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies for that, it was just the way it was written made me believe it was an ad. SuperSonic SPEED (formerly known as ChaosControl1994). 21:31, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jossi

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As Jossi is blocked indefinitely, does this make sense? Regards, SunCreator (talk) 20:33, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Agreed that it makes no sense but the boy is still learning, only not as fast and oftentimes making little blunders along the way. (Personally, I'm still of the opinion that he should concentrate on improving articles first, as he is dangerously approaching/exceeding an invisible mental threshold of a disruptive editor...) --Dave ♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 08:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I suspect that Joface317 is a sock of him as he recreated Jossi's 5 year old page. SuperSonic SPEED (formerly known as ChaosControl1994). 20:35, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe I misunderstand about blocked having not been blocked, but I was thinking that someone who is blocked indefinitely would not be able to response. Also given the user hasn't edited for over a year, the likelyhood they would login to see the message on the face of it seems quite remote. What at I missing? Regards, SunCreator (talk) 01:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I put in the SPI not realising that Jossi was the older account and I corrected it. The SPI has ended due to lack of evidence. SuperSonic SPEED (formerly known as ChaosControl1994). 16:41, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the replies. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 23:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Adoption

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I saw your message on my talk page. Rin tin tin (Hi) 22:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rin tin tin 1996 (talk • contribs)

I am your adopter, anything you need help with, feel free to use my talk page to ask me.

P.S: Use four ~'s to sign your name so that SineBot doesn't do it for you and it is easier to contact you.

Good luck with Wikipedia :), Regards, SuperSonic SPEED (formerly known as ChaosControl1994). 13:25, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SD hoax tag for Joey Kramer Hit Hard

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Hi, you tagged this article for deletion.[2] It does actually appear to be genuine, but since it reads like an advert it'd probably be a G11 rather than a G3. Mephistophelian (talk) 21:27, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up, the advert detail must have been added after I put up the G3. Thanks again for the correction. SuperSonic SPEED (formerly known as ChaosControl1994). 21:30, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have declined the speedy deletion. Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 21:35, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Please be a little less quick on the trigger with newbies. Even before Saadamy put his reference on his article, a simple search showed that it wasn't a hoax, and he didn't even remove the speedy tag - just correctly added a "hangon" and explained on the talk page what he was trying to do. To call him a "vandalism-only account" was quite unjustified.
For doing quick searches, I find a useful technique is to keep a sandbox open in an extra browser tab with {{findsources|}} set up in it: then one can paste whatever it is in, click "Show preview", and have useful search links instantly available. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 23:03, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

==Speedy deletion nomination of SkyRebel Communications Manifesto

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Please refrain from introducing inappropriate pages, such as SkyRebel Communications Manifesto, to Wikipedia. Doing so is not in accordance with our policies. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. skyrebelquinn 23:37, 12 March 2010 (UTC) ==

I just wanted to ask why you felt my page fell under the vandalism category? I run SkyRebel Communications Network. Also, from the looks of this page and the comments on it, you should probably stop sniping (oh... my apologies, patroling) pages so much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skyrebelquinn (talk • contribs) 23:37, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No references and it is an unremarkable company anyway. I would watch your tone if I were you before you get into more trouble. SuperSonic SPEED (formerly known as ChaosControl1994). 09:22, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just an observation - seems like more then one user here with tone issues. Jeepday (talk) 11:25, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(Ok mother, I'll make sure I watch my tone. I wouldn't want to get grounded. What the heck?) It may seem like an unremarkable company to you, but it may not to someone else. The point of Wikipedia is that people can add content they feel is informational to others. I felt it was as it describes the core values of my organization. By the way, it was marked as three different things and two of those were removed before it was finally deleted. I think that's proof enough that no one had a real reason to delete it. —Preceding unsigned skyrebelquinn 18:15, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Also, as far as "tone issues" go, you attacked my page and removed it. Am I supposed to enjoy that or something? skyrebelquinn 18:15, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't recall attacking your page, if I caused any offense then I apologize but you need to learn to be more calm with these situations. SuperSonic SPEED (formerly known as ChaosControl1994). 18:17, 13 March 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Sigh. Ok, I got too upset. Thanks for apologizing, and I can assume you were trying to do the right thing. As this was my first article, can you give me the reasons (the exact ones, specific for my page, not the general category) it was deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skyrebelquinn (talk • contribs) 18:21, 13 March 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Sure, the article you created was found as an unremarkable company or organisation because SkyRebel has not done anything that is notable worldwide or nationwide. Heres an example: Wal-Mart is well known worldwide as well as across the USA, SkyRebel may be well known across a small area but its not enough to warrant an article on Wikipedia. If it helps, you may recreate the page at User:Skyrebelquinn/SkyRebel Communications Manifesto as it won't be subject to speedy deletion and you can get it evaluated and recieve help on how to improve it so that it can possibly be moved onto the encyclopedia later on. Feel free to use my talk page if you would like any help. Regards, SuperSonic SPEED (formerly known as ChaosControl1994). 18:26, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well... no. I can't exactly accomplish something to help the world in one month. I'm only seventeen. So in order to be on Wikipedia, I have to have benefited thousands? I don't remember seeing that rule, my apologies. I'll go ahead and remove the Sudaam Hussein article then. (Not really.) Do you understand my point? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skyrebelquinn (talk • contribs) 18:32, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I see. No response, wow. I'm actually a bit impressed that you went to the trouble of deleting the entire page as well. skyrebelquinn 18:56, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

I get what you mean and the convo is in the Archive (look at the top right of the page). For your page to stick on Wikipedia, I suggest you show evidence of your company (like website, news reports etc.) so that it won't be deleted. Regards, SuperSonic SPEED (formerly known as ChaosControl1994). 18:58, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Or you could stop being lazy and Google skyrebel. The page is at http://skyrebelcommunications.net. skyrebelquinn 19:05, 13 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skyrebelquinn (talk • contribs)

Use the link as evidence. SuperSonic SPEED (formerly known as ChaosControl1994). 19:07, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I see put it on the page? Now I completely understand. Oh... I can't you deleted it without blinking. Never mind. skyrebelquinn 19:17, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Recreate it here. SuperSonic SPEED (formerly known as ChaosControl1994). 19:22, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Or I could actually make an article. But I won't because I know you're camping me out. Geez. skyrebelquinn 19:24, 13 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skyrebelquinn (talk • contribs)

I'm not camping you out. Recreate it as you wish. I'll back off. SuperSonic SPEED (formerly known as ChaosControl1994). 19:25, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate it. I'll add more information to it in hopes that it stays. skyrebelquinn 19:28, 13 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skyrebelquinn (talk • contribs)

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