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MOTD Barnstar 2012 & Happy New Year 2013

The MOTD Barnstar
I am very pleased to award Simply south with the Motto of the Day Barnstar Award for your invaluable contributions during the past year. Thanks to your efforts and support, our project is still alive. Keep it up!
… I would also like to take this opportunity to wish you and yours a very happy 2013! –pjoef (talkcontribs) 09:42, 2 January 2013 (UTC)


File:Happy New Year 2013.jpg Have an enjoyable New Year!
Hello Simply south: Thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable New Year! Cheers, –pjoef (talkcontribs) 09:42, 2 January 2013 (UTC)



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Well...

...thank you very much. I actually find it quite relaxing... and it improves my geographical knowledge immensely! Johnlp (talk) 16:54, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Jan Metro

Simply south...... walking into bells for just 6 years 20:35, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

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Middlesbrough railway station

Hi, can you take another look at the routebox change you made to Middlesbrough railway station, there appears to be a problem with the absence of a proceeding station. May be this is the terminus that is not showing. Thanks. Keith D (talk) 00:43, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

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Hertfordshire

I merely wish to point out that I have been maintaining the article to its long-established state. Your edit summary today appears to chastise me –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 18:21, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Ha, ha! Just seen your reversion of your first revision. Thank you for that and for replying over on my Talk page –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 18:28, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

ECML

Sorry. Pointer drifted over rollback 25 mins ago without me realising it. Leaky Caldron 18:54, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

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Missed section

Hi, this wasn't a missed section. Although more than 30 days old, MiszaBot is configured on this page with |minthreadsleft=5 which leaves a minimum of five threads behind - which is what was left following this edit. I added a thread on 12 Feb, so the 13 Feb run would have archived off the oldest, to leave five again. --Redrose64 (talk) 00:39, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

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WCML complexity

Kensal Green
Queen's Park
Bakerloo Line
Kilburn High Road
South Hampstead
Chiltern Main Line
North London Line
Watford DC Line (right)
Chalk Farm
Camden Chalk Farm
London Euston
Euston tube station, Northern Line and Victoria Line

Hi - in reply to your message, yes I do get time-out errors on the south section occasionally, though not as bad as I found the north section (which is why I'm intending to split that one when I start work on it). I find that mostly it saves, but times out before it re-loads the page, so nothing's lost, though I've got into the habit of doing a select all - copy before submitting just in case. One thing I've found that does speed things up is disabling Show preview on first edit in the editing section of your preferences, as this dramatically speeds up the time to load the edit box. I don't think there's much else that can be done, as the page is pushing towards the boundaries of the template limit.

On the subject of complexity, I really think the level of detail you've gone to around Queens Park is unnecessary for an overview diagram that's showing such a large section of route. Even Template:Watford DC line doesn't go to that much detail. How do you feel about this proposal (right)? It shows the Bakerloo diving off underneath the mainlines from the DC lines, but retains the parallel icons to keep the indication of the proximity of the two tracks. I don't think there's any need to show the turn-back siding at Harrow & Wealdstone - we don't show sidings in other places, and the page isn't about the Bakerloo anyway.

What are your thoughts?  An optimist on the run! 19:18, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

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Guernsey RFC DYK

I've done what you requested for Template:Did you know nominations/Guernsey RFC. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 19:34, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

March Metro

Simply south...... catching SNOWballs for just 6 years 21:56, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for Star of Caledonia

The DYK project (nominate) 08:17, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

There is a proposal to discontinue play and mark as historical the "Word before last" word association game. As one of the contributors in the last year, please feel free to stop in and comment. Hasteur (talk) 21:23, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

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Reverted edit on Edinburgh Castle page

Thank goodness someone—namely yourself—had the good sense and bravery to revert the latest additions to the above page. Perhaps that contributor should start a new page on "Edinburgh Castle and the paranormal"—but I hope not! Kim Traynor | Talk 17:21, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I'd object to those additions on other grounds. I'd like to think Wikipedia deals with facts! Also, wrong placing, disproportionatality, and they carried a distinct whiff of advertising ghost tours for potential visitors to the city. Kim Traynor | Talk 18:02, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

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Diana's funeral courtege photo

That image is rubbish - it's not got a gun carriage, it's just a terrible photoshop and it's not what it's captioned as. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.200.207.66 (talk) 13:32, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

T&WM DRN

Just in case you're not watching it, the thread got hatted as I opened a SPI at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Waterspaces. Feel free to leave your observations there. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 13:12, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Category:United Kingdom metro stations

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Category:United Kingdom tram stops

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I changed this to rename to Category:Tram stops in the United Kingdom. Tim! (talk) 19:52, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

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April Metro

Simply south...... eating shoes for just 7 years 20:34, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of North British, Arbroath and Montrose Railway

Hello! Your submission of North British, Arbroath and Montrose Railway at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Not a drastic problem but could the wording of the hook be changed? I notice you have clarified the relevant part of the article under the 'Montrose viaduct' section, as that had also been rather clumsily worded initially? I've also posted this on Thin Cat's talk page as I wasn't sure where would be best. Thanks! SagaciousPhil - Chat 16:30, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your encouraging interest. I have suggested an ALT1. Hope I have followed the right procedure. Thincat (talk) 18:16, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
@Simply south, please change or propose another hook if you prefer. Thincat (talk) 18:16, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Station usage

I've created a template, {{UKsta-u auto}}, which can be used in conjunction with {{UKsat-u}}, as per this example:

Station usage
Station name 2002–03 2004–05 2005–06 2006–07 2007–08 2008–09 2009–10 2010–11 2011–12 2012–13 2013–14 2014–15 2015–16 2016–17 2017–18 2018–19 2019–20 2020–21 2021–22 2022–23
Gospel Oak 627,750 340,980 397,700 1,511,609 1,377,909 1,052,692 956,474 1,508,264
Upper Holloway 189,632 52,331 47,992 206,090 305,247 283,884 285,272 505,822
Crouch Hill 72,727 45,251 44,680 271,491 244,218 189,696 171,598 321,100
Harringay Green Lanes 64,984 36,457 34,025 319,250 377,554 299,934 273,160 502,600
South Tottenham 135,208 45,834 42,090 243,519 293,742 232,748 225,126 441,988
Blackhorse Road No data 26,143 22,593 169,067 115,906 69,904 184,472 444,802
Walthamstow Queen's Road 76,675 34,379 30,503 62,520 87,649 69,418 86,904 216,142
Leyton Midland Road 110,046 34,865 32,407 285,208 370,664 308,836 302,772 501,186
Leytonstone High Road 60,220 31,542 26,724 261,238 314,675 251,676 244,624 416,310
Wanstead Park 52,477 29,014 25,757 179,718 238,857 215,262 213,644 351,450
Woodgrange Park 52,320 29,090 25,256 173,771 171,036 168,434 171,972 310,006
Barking 4,687,665 5,121,894 4,908,499 3,762,562 3,993,035 3,753,582 4,677,952 6,515,606
The annual passenger usage is based on sales of tickets in stated financial years from Office of Rail and Road estimates of station usage. The statistics are for passengers arriving and departing from each station and cover twelve-month periods that start in April. Methodology may vary year on year. Usage from the periods 2019-20 and especially 2020-21 onwards have been affected by the Covid-19 pandemic

As you'll see, it automatically fills in the usage of each station. The only down-side is that you also have to provide the three letter code foe each station, however this should be available in the station article's infobox. However the advantages are that it saves having to add each number individually, and when new data is available the templates can be expanded without having to update every line that transcludes it. Obviously I don't want to roll this out until I've entered the data for other years. This will be a lot of work, but I'm willing to do this if there's support for me to carry on. What I don't want to happen is for me to put in that work, only for it to be rejected by people saying they prefer the way it's done at the moment. What do you think? Is this worth pursuing or not? An optimist on the run!   21:01, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

It looks good and easier. UKsta-u, although having been around a couple of years, and associated templates, have only been implemented on a few lines so far and it should not be that hard to change them. I don't think anyone will mind and truthfully I think I'm the one who has implemented most of them anyway. Thanks for the effort.
I also wondered about exploring 1997 - 2002. With the current coding as you know u1-u8 are set up only to handle 2002-2011 and future usage data and u9 will be easy to add to sort this. Or I wonder if in the disclaimer it should only note about as far back as 2002. 1997-2002 may require redoing everything again. Simply south...... eating shoes for just 7 years 21:35, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
Not a problem - once I've populated the template for each year's worth of data, the templates can be adapted to use any years you like. An optimist on the run!   06:33, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
Do you think there could be a way to add extra notes as well? On many lines there are limitations on open and closed stations, duplication (although rare see for example Northern Line Merseyrail) or with London stations with no data (Goblin being a good example, due to essentially travelcard data not being separated). Simply south...... eating shoes for just 7 years 11:24, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I missed this comment before. I've added the option of overriding a parameter by manually setting u1, u2 etc. See the entry for Backhorse Road in the example above. Hope this helps. An optimist on the run!   14:16, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for North British, Arbroath and Montrose Railway

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:04, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

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Your name has come up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains#Template:Rail text color. You might want to weigh in... - dcljr (talk) 18:25, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

I actually hadn't noticed. Sorry about that. Davykamanzitalk · contribs 12:09, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

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Moved Rosendale Trestle article

Hi, I notice that you moved Rosendale trestle to Rosendale Trestle Bridge. I've moved it to Rosendale Trestle and explained why on the talk page. --Gyrobo (talk) 18:21, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

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