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Mala

See User talk:Bgwhite#Mala - once again. Bladesmulti (talk) 20:09, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

@Bladesmulti: Already saw it and posted a {{Uw-castewarning}} on the relevant UTP. Sam ^Sing! 20:17, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

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Hi Sam, in this case we need the help of a steward, because he surpass to a crosswiki hoax, I send a message to a Wikidata sysop, but maybe that is insufficent. I collected the name of suckpuppets: Tperdiee, Banbyn, Marfhy012, Luisarangure, Mareioro20. Also the IP 150.186.126.20 must be checked because this is the IP of the university (Universidad Centro Occidental Lisandro Alvarado), also 186.91.205.156, 186.95.172.180, 186.91.202.66, 186.91.239.88, 186.91.191.226, 186.91.160.51, 190.76.244.50 (all are personal IPs). --Taichi (talk) 15:12, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi Tachi. As I wrote, I've already contacted a steward here. Sam ^Sing! 15:47, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

And now, he vandalized your userpage. --Taichi (talk) 20:08, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

He's dedicated. Sam ^Sing! 10:12, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi Sam, I revised but I don't have access to the page ("You don't have permission to access /index.php on this server"). Sorry. --Taichi (talk) 19:02, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi Sam, I deleted this entry, as well (I am an admin on the Lumbaart Wiki), thanks for the heads up. lmo:User Talk:Mondschein

Not a problem, but who in the world is this guy, anyway?? I Googled him and all I came up with was what looked like some sort of Latino teen heartthrob.... Regards, lmo:User Talk:Mondschein — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.0.29.66 (talk) 23:17, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

The only thing I can say for sure is that he in no way meets any notability criteria for inclusion. Thanks for your help on lmo.wikipedia. Best, Sam ^Sing! 23:26, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Msg from Jasmin-Shams

HI SAM SAILER,

Please try to be fair and don't post the wrong information in Samira Samii Wikipedia-Page. You can not use an old article as an evidence for editing a new page. You can not block everyone in this page and just editing by yourself. You can not take a picture of Samira Samii with Fadi Merze for which you don't have the rights on this image. You damage Samira Samii´s reputation and her noble Family as well with old and untrue Article about Mehdi Mahdavikia. I tried to help you several times to update your information unfortunately you don't care. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasmin-Shams (talk • contribs) 16:25, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi Jasmin-Shams, and thanks for your message. I believe the article on Samira Samii reflects what the sources say, which is how Wikipedia works. To address your concerns: there is no expiry date so to speak for sources, if they are reliable. I have not blocked anybody from editing. The article was however protected to avoid disruptive editing. The image used in the article is licensed under creative commons, I do not need to hold the rights. The 2006 story about Samii and Mehdi Mahdavikia is covered in reliable source, and Samii herself has mentioned it in interviews and on her own web page makes no attempt to hide that she was married to Mahdavikia. I hope this helps. Best, Sam ^Sing! 16:37, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, Sam Salier.... But Marriage with Mahdavikia and the articles are not in Mahdavikia´s Wikipedia as well. These will cost her reputation and will lead to juristic problems. Wikipedia is not a book to write History.... Please delete them immediately.... Sure I can not edit anything... the site is blocked.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasmin-Shams (talk • contribs) 16:44, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Dear Sam, why I can not edit anything in samira samii page... you can edit... for me is blocked page... Other side Samira Samii was married with Mehdi... Why these information are not in Mahdavikis´s Page??? With this information you damage all her reputation. We should try to make a good page with true information. Samira Samii never lived in Augsburg... She has often interview with their magazine. I can send you a good picture of Samira but please try to delete the other one... Would you be nice and send me your email...

Would you help me how can I Edit-Info in her page??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasmin-Shams (talk • contribs) 17:15, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Dear Sam,

SAMIRA SAMII in every interviews mentioned that she doenst like to talk about Mahdavikia... Please delete the articles... No articles can make u sure about someone... Please be cooperate.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasmin-Shams (talk • contribs) 17:20, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Jasmin, as for content questions I suggest we keep it at the article talk page where I have posted an answer to your latest edit request. To answer your other questions, the marriage was already mentioned in the article about Mehdi Mahdavikia; Samira Samii was page protected on 10 January for two weeks because of persistent vandalism, the protection is a so-called semi protection; you are welcome to upload an image and suggest it added to the article. I hope this helps. Again, for matters that directly concerns article content please use the article talk page where more people will read your comments. Thanks. Sam ^Sing! 17:36, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Dear Sam,

how cam I use Talk-Box? how can I edit my massage... what is sami-Protection??? I can not do anything??? How should I edit something in Samira Samii site or delete something or update it?? It would be great if you help me regarding all of these??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasmin-Shams (talk • contribs) 17:43, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Dear Jasmin. I posted a welcome message on your talk page. Click on the hyper-links. They will give you a lot of good information on how to get started on Wikipedia. Best, Sam ^Sing! 17:48, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Dear Sam,

why you can edit article even the page is blocked because of Vandalism and I can not edit anything.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasmin-Shams (talk • contribs) 18:19, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

HALLO!!!!

My name is max and I am really disappointed about samira samii Wikipedia.... All your article are not true... I have seen the history... many people try to change but no one care of our Persian proud MISS SAMII- Daughter of Prof. SAMII. How should I editing as a new user??? How can I delete ur old articles.... MANY THANKS — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaxXXX-max (talk • contribs) 18:48, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Dear Sam,

article about Mahdavkia in focus are damaging DSamira Samii private life... please delete them... Please care of privacy and private life of someone... the ole history about 10 years a ago must not be active again... I can not change the picture.. u can take some picture from her home-page... why administrator doenst delete this page... can everyone make an Wikipedia page about other people???? THANKS — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasmin-Shams (talk • contribs) 07:18, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Msg from MaxXXX-max

HI SAM SAILOR,

you try also to delete or add in samira samii page why not me???? --MaxXXX-max (talk) 16:12, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Because the article is semi protected. You may make an edit request following the instructions at Wikipedia:Edit requests. Sam ^Sing! 16:39, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

She is living in Monaco....You don't search .. you just try to damage the reputation of someone... http://www.nordbayern.de/nuernberger-nachrichten/nuernberg/exotin-in-der-mannerwelt-1.895329

Delete the wrong information immediately... The same things about MAHDAVIKIA — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaxXXX-max (talk • contribs) 18:30, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Coming to my talk page assuming bad faith with rants like "You don't search .. you just try to damage the reputation of someone..." is not very tactful. Retract it or stay away from my talk page, please. Sam ^Sing! 18:39, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

IF YOU CAN NOT READ GERMAN... DONT COMMENT something... THE BNEWSPAPAER IS FROM NÜRNERG but they wrote she is living in Monte Carlo The same like this article.. I think you want to faith with SAMIAR SAMII Personally.. http://www.nordbayern.de/nuernberger-nachrichten/nuernberg/exotin-in-der-mannerwelt-1.895329 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.39.88.10 (talk) 18:46, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

http://www.nordbayern.de/nuernberger-nachrichten/nuernberg/exotin-in-der-mannerwelt-1.895329

Please check this link... ITS an article in Nordbayern- Nurnberg- and this newspaper is really serious one. I can understand German really well. THE WROTE HER MAIN RESIDENCE IS MONACO ("Hauptwohnsitz Monaco") You can not understand German and try to edit the wrong information... this is vandalism... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasmin-Shams (talk • contribs) 18:53, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

In fact I understand German quite well. Be aware that addition of sourced content is never considered vandalism. As I have said before, please keep content matters to the article talk page instead of posting on multiple user pages. Do you understand my request? I will make a section on the article talk page regarding residence. Please do sign your post. Sam ^Sing! 19:14, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi Sam,

please try to upload this picture:.... http://rund-magazin.de/uploads/images/am_ball/abcdefgh/samirapoldi.jpg

This is free of charge and free of rights.. down they wrote she is sport manager and sport columnist. This one fits much better to the Wikipedia PAGE!!!

THANKS!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasmin-Shams (talk • contribs) 20:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

SORRY, I can not understand your massage.. what I have done?? I JUST SUGGEST TO CHENGE THE PICTURE AND NOBODY CARE — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaxXXX-max (talk • contribs) 16:46, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

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Dear Sam Sailor, How can I change my username? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahdad2548 (talk • contribs) 01:15, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Dear Mahdad2548. You can have it WP:RENAMEd. Please sign your messages. Best, Sam ^Sing! 01:18, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

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Ritwik Thakur

This article should not be speedily deleted...He is one of the renowned persons in West Bengal.His contribution to literary world by this time has already reached quite a remembering place for Bengali poetry and people will come to know about him when they try to do so..Although your editing suggestions for this article are highly expected and welcomed.The references for genuineness of this article have been placed without bias and are based on documents.As such,authenticity of this article must not be called in question and should be given a due place in this encyclopedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ritiman Thakur (talk • contribs) 12:58, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

It is already contested on the talk page of the Article.. And why are you giving this tag of deletion on this Article? Please follow up the talk page. Thank You.

I could not find reliable source that makes an article on your father meet the notability guidelines, but they might exist in languages other than English? If you go find them, I'll lend you a hand with sectioning the article and pruning the private, non-encyclopedic stuff. How does that sound to you? Sam ^Sing! 13:08, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Hindaun

I don't know if you're involved at Wikipedia:WikiProject India or not, but I posted a request there about the matter that led me to protect it if you need further information — the user in question seems to have been rewriting a lot of our existing articles about small towns near Hindaun, to assert that they're neighbourhoods in Hindaun (in one case, he even moved a title so that it was being disambiguated as comma Hindaun instead of comma Kaurali District.) I can't find any properly sourced evidence that supports describing them as part of Hindaun, but I can't quite sort out whether the whole thing is being done out of a good faith but misguided perception that this is genuinely the way we should be presenting the area, or the kind of "fantasy metropolis building" one might engage in if they wanted to pretend their hometown was significantly larger or more important than it really is.

I agree with you that the topics you located sound like rather implausible redirects, but I don't have the background knowledge of Hindaun necessary to judge the whole thing by anything other than what it looks like, and what it looks like is disruptive and unhelpful hoax editing. The best thing I can suggest would be to post a followup comment to mine at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject India, pointing those two new ones out for attention. Bearcat (talk) 17:50, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

@Bearcat: I've started with asking Tulshi Pandey to join the discussion at WT:IN, and hope he will clarify things. I noticed you gave him a warning for hijacking Chandangaon, (protected with PC1 and FPP?) and one of his other hijackings, Mahu, had not been reverted. It is now. -- Sam ^Sing! 20:30, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Removal of BLPPROD

You removed the BLPPROD template from Paul Mclinden based on the addition of a source. The added source was the musician's own website which does not constitute a reliable source as required by the WP:BLP policy. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:13, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

No, the added source, "Paul McLinden Louder Than War". is not the artist's website, but it has now been added. -- Sam ^Sing! 13:34, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Apologies. I misread the reference. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:37, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

No prob, Dan, I'm looking into sources now, he might just pass. Best, -- Sam ^Sing! 13:39, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Dan, have a look at it. It was actually easier to find a handful of (not especially fantastic) references on McLinden than on The Gyres, Kenny Inglis, or Cinephile (band). Not that it says very much. -- Sam ^Sing! 14:33, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Reply on warning on user Kushus

Concerning your message on the user's editing on the article Hindon City-Rural, his edits have blanked the article and was against WP:BLANKING, regardless of intention. I do not have an opinion whether the article is a pov-fork, and is irrelevant to the user's edits at that time. Regards. KJ^Discuss? 14:59, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

@Kkj11210: No, WP:BLANKING applies in user space, not in main space, but you did nothing here that I wouldn't have done myself. Luckily I had a lot more revision history to examine, and the POV-fork is obvious, compare Previous revision of Hindaun City-Rural with Hindaun, and I assume this was what motivated Kushus. Which they could have said in an edit-summary and saved us some time. Best, Sam ^Sing! 16:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant WP:BLANK, but alright. KJ^Discuss? 14:25, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

No problem at all. Again, we would not be here, if Kushus has made his intention clear. Best, -- Sam ^Sing! 14:36, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

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DARPA --> Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency

Hello, I copy the text that I left on the discussion page redirection DARPA --> Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency.

"Renaming of article DARPA" I intend to cancel this redirection to proceed with the renaming of article DARPA (acronym) with the title text, easier [for the lector] to understand in other articles (possibly restore after the renaming is effective)."

Thank you for your opinion. Trackteur (talk) 15:43, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

OK, merci Trackteur. Give me a moment, I will move the discussion so it gets more attention. -- Sam ^Sing! 15:52, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Further Away notability

I notice you removed the {{notability}} tag from the article Further Away. You have added sources, which is good, but it appears these references are not specifically about the subject in question – I believe in order to qualify a subject as Wikipedia-notable it must contain numerous sources specifically about that subject, not just sources which may mention the subject. If this differs from your understanding please let me know, but, if not, I think the {{notability}} tag should be replaced.

Please notify me with the Talkback template once you have replied. Lachlan Foley (talk) 06:48, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

@Lachlan Foley: The belief that "in order to qualify a subject as Wikipedia-notable it must contain numerous sources specifically about that subject" seems to me to be in conflict with WP:GNG that says Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material. (my emphasis). Which guideline is being quoted? -- Sam ^Sing! 10:37, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Notability (music). Lachlan Foley (talk) 23:19, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Where in NMUSIC does it say "it must contain numerous sources specifically about that subject"? -- Sam ^Sing! 23:27, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

@Lachlan Foley: The lack of answer is noted. -- Sam ^Sing! 08:25, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I was unaware I hadn't replied to this: I think it is generally implied throughout the article, but specifically Songs and singles are probably notable if they have been the subject[1] of multiple, non-trivial[2] published works whose sources are independent of the artist and label., with emphasis on the word "subject" – i.e. articles about The Holy Bible cited in the article for the song "4st 7lb" are ineligible as sources because "4st 7lb" is not the subject, The Holy Bible is. Lachlan Foley (talk) 09:43, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

@Lachlan Foley: No problem. Let's stick to "Further Away". There is in WP:NSONGS no emphasis on the word "subject". There is the line saying "If the only coverage of a song occurs in the context of reviews of the album on which it appears, that material should be contained in the album article and an independent article about the song should not be created." But this is not the case with "Further Away." And neither that line, nor the "they have been the subject of ..." supports your initial belief that "it must contain numerous sources specifically about that subject, not just sources which may mention the subject". I personally don't care deeply for this article, I'm merely demonstrating that finding and adding sources was possible, but it does take a greater effort and sends a very different signal than tagging with {{Refimprove}} or {{Unreferenced}}. I suggest you put the article up for discussion on AfD. -- Sam ^Sing! 11:08, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

admin

Admin closed Afd--Admnnassau (talk) 15:52, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

@Admnnassau: It will likely be closed very shortly, one hour more or less is not important. Please do not repeat the blanking. -- Sam ^Sing! 15:55, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Unsigned message from Theoneandonly77

Hi Sam, please refrain for further editing the page Planet Veritas/ Veritas Language solutions. They are NOT the same company according UK law and to associate the two is incorrect. Please see this message board https://www.linkedin.com/groups/Veritas-in-Swansea-4161115.S.5941472333951696897?trk=groups_most_popular-0-b-cmr&goback=%2Enppvan_sandrineal%2Egmp_4161115 which contains many malicious and defamatory comments. One of these posters is present on the veritas talk page and we are currently in the process of starting legal action against them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theoneandonly77 (talk • contribs) 12:30, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

@Theoneandonly77: I believe I understand that you are part of Planet Veritas considering you write we are currently in the process of starting legal action against them. Judging from [1] and other sub-pages of said site, Planet Veritas is quite clearly Veritas Language Solutions re-branded. As you write on your web page "We set out to nurture our current customers, re-brand, re-structure give ourselves a spring clean". I can see that JamesBWatson already posted a welcome message to you regarding Conflict of interest. We can not use posts from Internet forums as sources for articles as the one you link to or the ones posted on the talk page. -- Sam ^Sing! 12:48, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Sam - Planet Veritas is NOT Veritas Language Solutions rebranded. If you believe this to be the case please provide evidence firstly before editing that page! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theoneandonly77 (talk • contribs) 13:18, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Apart from http://www.planetveritas.com/about-us/veritas-history/ which quite obviously is the history of Veritas Language Solutions, you have on http://www.planetveritas.com/about-us/why-choose-veritas/awards/ a nice list of awards - exactly those that are mentioned in Planet Veritas and were awarded to Veritas Language Solutions. So, yes, as Sharon Stephens writes on your web page it's a re-brand. Although the article was created by an employee and maintained by several SPAs from the company, I doubt it will be possible to source it to meet the notability guidelines. -- Sam ^Sing! 13:39, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Barnstar for short pages patrol work

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	I've been trying for a while to figure out who else was doing short pages patrol. Finally spotted someone else. Thank you for helping out on what is normally one of the more thankless, wikignomish tasks. TexasAndroid (talk) 20:07, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

@TexasAndroid: Thank you, Texas, I'm impressed that you noticed it (how??) and grateful that you acknowledged it. -- Sam ^Sing! 20:21, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

It had to do with that flood of sub-stub astronomical articles from late last week. I tagged some of them, but felt I didn't want to identically tag every single one. I came back yesterday to see the rest gone from the short pages report. Since I had some in my contributions list, I decided to see what had happened to the rest. Some were proded, but I noticed on at least one or two you sticking the "long comment" template on it. In general, that template is only used for short pages patrolling. A glance through your contributions showed that as not being an isolated case of you using that template. So I had thus spotted another short pages patroller. :) - TexasAndroid (talk) 14:54, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

@TexasAndroid: Brilliant! Yes, that was quite a red dwarf shower into main space. I sort-of gave up on WP:NASTRO and totally gave up on attempts to add sources, but as the creator looked as a rock solid editor in the astro department, I focused on getting these one-liners off the sacrosanct high altar of gnoming. ;) Best, -- Sam ^Sing! 16:29, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Lee Valley VeloPark

Hello there.....I am trying to move the London VeloPark page to give it its proper name, which is Lee Valley VeloPark. That's why I created a new page. Now I would like to delete the new page and just change the name of the existing page from London VeloPark to Lee Valley VeloPark. Can you help? I want to make people aware of the right information. Surely it shouldn't be so complicated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AbbyCrombie (talk • contribs) 13:47, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

It isn't. You could leave a follow up message on Talk:Lee Valley VeloPark saying that you agree with what I wrote and ask the deleting admin to move London Velopark to Lee Valley VeloPark. Kind regardes, -- Sam ^Sing! 13:53, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

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Nashik page

Sir I am working on Nashik page (specially industry). please suggest me what more I can add to it to make it featured article page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.211.147.44 (talk) 06:35, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

I would try to dig up some sources. Assuming you are from the Nashik area did you try to visit a library to see what has been written about the city? -- Sam ^Sing! 08:28, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Hindaun

I got the notification in my ping queue, so I was already looking at it when I got your talk page comment. Since he had already had a 60-hour block for the same behaviour, I've escalated that to a one-week block this time. Bearcat (talk) 00:33, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

To think that anything will change for the better after a one-week block is optimistic. -- Sam ^Sing! 00:36, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Shon Pace

Hello, please stop requesting the shon pace page for deletion because all of the information on there is in fact notable. It is all factual, and I would appreciate it if you stop making false accusations. Shon Pace is a real person and the accomplishments made are all legitiment, thank you. if you can request on how to improve the page then do so, you are frustrating me alot right now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Savagepb1 (talk • contribs) 14:16, 1 February 2015‎

I can understand how you feel, but please understand that certain criteria for notability has to be met for inclusion, and as far as I can tell, Shon Pace is not notable. He may become notable in the future, and you are of course encouraged to improve the article with reliable sources and participate in the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shon Pace. -- Sam ^Sing! 14:36, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Yugy

Hi, thanks for note. Looks like it's been dealt with Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:10, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome. -- Sam ^Sing! 13:12, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Why do you delete other peoples topic?

Why do you delete others topics? I made my 2290 topic because its a huge IRS that people should know more info on. Some people know it as 2290 others as heavy highway use tax. How do you have authority to delete someones article that he worked on because you thought it wasn't necessary. I can do the same to you with your articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Informativepro1 (talk • contribs) 13:51, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Because the numerical redirect should IMHO not point to Heavy Highway Vehicle Use Tax. If anything it should be Form 2290. Now created. You are welcome to mindfully edit any article you want to edit. -- Sam ^Sing! 14:03, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Veritas Language Solutions and Planet Veritas

Hey Sam. Interesting conundrum going on here with this article you recently moved; I'm in an OTRS discussion (VRTS ticket # 2015012610021121) with the editor who has recently been blocked because they are seeking legal action against another editor inre: recent edits there and the talk page. That said, they claim the company is independent of the Language Solutions company of the same name, and as such, it is problematic to equate the two. If that's the case, the article should probably be moved back to its old location and Planet Veritas should be deleted at this time. I've done a look around for sources for the new company, and I don't see any reliable sources that connect the two companies at this time (unless I'm missing something), nor any independent sources that discuss "Planet Veritas" with any kind of depth for an article. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 02:34, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi I JethroBT. I think the first thing one could do here is to click on veritaslanguagesolutions.com and see where it takes you: www.planetveritas.com. From there it only takes a simple comparison of the article with the website to say it's the same little company. Same CEO (Sharon Stephens), same company history [2], same awards [3], same address, same telephone number; the connection seems to be confirmed here. But I can't help smiling here: these people make no attempts to hide that they created the article in the first place, and quite obviously have maintained it. The shit hits the fan, they liquidate and buy out assets, they re-brand. They might well be in their right to say that legally it's two unconnected entities, but from a layman's point of view they are having their cake and eating it. That being said, there are AFAIKT no solid secondary sources on-line that connects the two companies presently, otherwise I would have added them. An editor nevertheless has said on the talk page that they could do a rewrite, and I deprodded the article. I'm open for the suggestion of moving it back to its former title. And I'm not sure it would survive an AfD. Best, -- Sam ^Sing! 11:00, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Yeah...I get what you are saying. I suspect much of is this being done to protect business interests, but I'm not thrilled with the editor who was trying to make the article a coatrack all about whatever financial goings-on that were clearly not discussed in any sources. Then again, I'm not thrilled with the article co-opting the old company's history. Uggggh. I'll talk to the editor who is going to do a rewrite to see what they think about moving it back, seeing as sources don't discuss the companies together and there's no coverage on the current company. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 18:01, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable. -- Sam ^Sing! 18:05, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	The Barnstar of Diplomacy
	...to thank you for your patient attempts to help the new user Informativepro1 despite their misunderstandings and resentment. MelanieN (talk) 22:42, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Ah, thank you so much, MelanieN, very thoughtful of you to notice. -- Sam ^Sing! 22:45, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Did you see where they requested semiprotection for three of those pages? They are seriously in need of counseling and it's nice of you to try to provide it. --MelanieN (talk) 22:50, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Saw it just now, but a cool admin handled it well. ... It's the editorial nesting instinct in action. Once you let go of your babies and stop worrying too much, life gets easier. -- Sam ^Sing! 23:08, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

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re: Tag-banned user and AfD nominations

Hi Sam. Thanks for reminding me of these - I was going to address them before the week ended. It seems a bit WP:POINTY from LF to take them all to AfD, but with enough rope, he'll end up with an AfD ban too. WP:BEFORE is key to follow, and it looks as if these are all cases of "I can't tag them, I'll just get them deleted". Sources for most, if not all of these articles, should be easy enough to find. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 14:30, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: I couldn't agree more, appears ego-driven to me. I'll have a look at some of the other 17 nominations. Thanks. -- Sam ^Sing! 14:34, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

After adding the references and external link you've again given the tag for speedy deletion to the content Ritwik Thakur

With due respect Sam,I hope it's not your intention to give the tag of speedy deletion with some more attributes. It has been long since I've added the valid references and external link to the content for perusal and after a week or more today once more you have added the earlier tags. Kindly pay attention going through the content and its added valid references from reliable sources before inputting the invalid tags to the content now. Thank You. --Ritiman 14:58, 6 February 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ritiman Thakur (talk • contribs)

If you can find any reliable sources to add to the biography of your father, Ritwik Thakur, please do so. I can find none. If you need help formatting references, you are welcome to post the bare URLs here, and I will help you. -- Sam ^Sing! 15:21, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

I scanned and added the certificates of honor which he received from the World Peace Thinkers and Poets Meet 2010 and Bishnu Dey centenary Seminar 2009 at Maulana Azad College as documentary evidences of his works and contributions.

And added the external link World Peace Thinkers and Poets Meet 2010 for perusal. I was suggested to take the help for adding references from documentary evidences if online sources are few and I did so.Please cooperate Sam. --Ritiman 15:42, 6 February 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ritiman Thakur (talk • contribs)

Photos of his participation in conferences do not really count towards establishing notability. Please read Wikipedia:Notability (people). I don't intend to make you sad by saying that it is very often impossible for people to stay objective, when they are writing about something that is dear to them. Trying to write an article about a close family member is something that happens on a daily basis here, and more often than not such articles get deleted one way or the other. There are plenty of possibilities out there for posting about non-notable persons, Facebook just to mention one. Please WP:SIGN your messages. -- Sam ^Sing! 15:57, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Although i share a close relationship with the person I wrote the article about I really didn't intend to post personal views or opinions.It's very much disrespectful for his name to be mentioned as non notable person because by this time now he is one of the renowned bengal poet.Reliable sources from newspaper articles and scholarly reviews on his poems and works will be added by me to the article soon.Thank You Sam. Ritiman95 (talk) 16:20, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Why are you using two accounts? -- Sam ^Sing! 16:22, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Attack pages

I blanked those three articles because their negative content was not supported by the sources. Most of the sources are in English, and you can see there is a difference between being arrested for a crime and having committed it, even in India. You can create a new article, or even remove the smeer campaigns, but you should not just put this back on Wkiepedia without sourcing when they appear to be attack articles. MicroPaLeo (talk) 21:27, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

From a quick view at the sources it does seem that these people have been in the press re the Kerala case. Question is still if they merit a stand-alone article. -- Sam ^Sing! 21:45, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

If someone is "in the press" I cannot make up what the press says about them and permanently add it to Wikipedia. No, that someone was arrested does not mean we can say they committed a crime in a Wikipedia article. However, I am not interested in dealing with this as you have decided "any source exists" means "we can say anything." I feel encyclooedias should only report what is out there, not make up information, especially to smeer people, and I will no longer be dealing with you and the articles because they are attack pieces and my attempt to do the correct thing failed. MicroPaLeo (talk) 21:57, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

I think the best thing you can do right now is to drop the stick, step back, and take some time away from here, because with that kind of rant and bad faith in me on my talk page, you do not even accomplish my attempt to enlighten you. Further messages here in the same vein will be deleted. -- Sam ^Sing! 22:01, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

AFC declined

Hi, I noticed that you posted a message on my talk page saying my article was declined. But actually it wasn't my article it was Kholance's article. He/she reported on the Teahouse that his/her article is not being subjected to review. So I fixed that issue and submitted that article for Kholance. You better notify him about the declination. Cheers--Chamith (talk) 09:03, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

I'll look into it, thanks ChamithN. -- Sam ^Sing! 09:05, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

@ChamithN: I believe the reason is that in this diff you submitted the draft using plain {{subst:submit}}, but {{subst:submit|user=Kholance}} would have been correct. Not that I had the slightest clue before looking into it now, mind you! Always something to learn here. Best, -- Sam ^Sing! 09:20, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Oh I guess that's why. My bad. Thank you for point it out Sam. Like you said you learn something new everyday. Regards.-Chamith (talk) 10:40, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

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Dear Sam, I'm not expert in wiki but I faced a problem creating the article on "Education studies", which is a research field, because it was redirected to "Engineering Education" as teaching activity. I didn't find another solution to create the page on "Education studies" than removing the "redirect". But into the article on "Education studies", I introduced that in some case "Education studies" means ""Engineering education" and here I introduced a link toward the corresponding page. I hope I did it correctly. Best, — Preceding unsigned comment added by PinsonV (talk • contribs) 15:50, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

PinsonV, thanks for your message. I'd love to help out here if I can. But I am mildly confused. You talk about creating Education studies. We already have that, and it is a redirect. But you have never edited that page! I and DVdm reverted you twice in Engineering studies where you blanked the redirect. If you can help me understand what you want to accomplish here, I know we can make it work for you. Best -- Sam ^Sing! 16:12, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Dear Sam. I first was looking the article for "Engineering studies" (which is a research field) but I was redirected on "Engineering education" (in the sense of teaching activity). Thus I wanted to create an article on "Engineering studies" but this was impossible due to the redirection on "Engineering education". I finally discover how to delete the redirection and I could start to create a new articles. After 5 hours to create this page with the relevant links, I published it. Than I discover you messages and the fact that all my work on "Education studies" disappeared. I don't know what to do. If you can help. This would be relevant at least for my students and for the whole Engineering studies community. Best.--PinsonV (talk) 16:32, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Again, I'd love to help out but my problem here is that there has been no substantial edits to the redirect Engineering studies, none at all to the redirect Education studies, and your contribution history don't show me any major edits. Could you have been editing from another account or while logged out? Best, -- Sam ^Sing! 16:38, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Here is the copy I did on Word of the article I edited for "Engineering studies".

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Engineering studies is an interdisciplinary branch of social sciences devoted to the study of engineers and their activities. Studying engineers refers among other to the history and the sociology of their profession, its institutionalization and organization, the social composition and structure of the population of engineers, their training, their trajectory, etc. A subfield is for instance Women in engineering. Studying engineering refers to the study of their activities and practices, their role into the society, their engagement. Engineering studies investigate how social, political, economical, cultural and historical dynamics affect technological research, design, engineering and innovation, and how these, in turn, affect society, economics, politics and culture.
Sometimes Engineering studies refers to teaching engineers.

Subfields and related fields

History of engineering
Sociology of engineers
Women in engineering
Engineering ethnography
Engineering culture and representation
Design studies
Social study of engineering sciences
Engineering in society and political study of engineering
Organizational studies of engineers and engineering
Critical approach and philosophy of engineering
Engineering education
Engineering ethics
Social construction of technology (SCOT)
Social shaping of technology
Technological change
Sociology of innovation
History of technology
(Constructive) Technology Assessment

Concepts

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Engineering studies

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MOS:FILM

Hi Sam. Just a heads up that the we don't link to years in film and/or countries in the lead of an article, per WP:EGG. There are lots of discussions in the talkpage archives if you need to check. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 14:40, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Lugnuts, thanks for just telling me, the finer details of MOS can make a grown up man feel like Bambi on ice ... so [[1969 in film|1969]] [[Cinema of Denmark|Danish]] should both be dropped? -- Sam ^Sing! 14:49, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

No probs. Yes, neither year or country should be linked. Thanks for all your help with the Danish films. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 17:12, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

My pleasure, and once again thanks for correcting me. -- Sam ^Sing! 22:16, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

February 2015 Wikification drive

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non admin closures question

Hi, I see you closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Madison Guthrie (2nd nomination) and another of the linked models AFDs. I don't think Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Madison Guthrie (2nd nomination) closure as Keep is obvious... there are 3 delete votes ... and you give no discussion of relative merits of Keep vs. Delete arguments. I suggest you pause, and not close others. --do ncr am 10:52, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your opinion. I will reopen the AfD in question. -- Sam ^Sing! 10:55, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I was going to add that I don't think these are clear/obvious "Keep" situations. At best "No consensus". Checking wp:NAC, I don't think these cases are eligible for NAC. I think you should maybe reopen the Brittany Wiser one too: it also has 3 delete votes, ~~and of the Keep votes, at least the first one should be discarded, IMO.~~ I also am interested in doing Non Admin Closures, by the way, but would be wary of ones like these. --do ncr am 11:01, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

I disagree that the first keep !vote in Brittany Wiser should be disregarded. However, I am always open for suggestions that things could be done in another way, as well as correction if I fuck up. I forgot the details surrounding reopening closed AfD, but if you feel like reopening Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brittany Wiser to let somebody else close it, please go ahead and reopen it, I won't mind the slightest. -- Sam ^Sing! 11:09, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

[update, inserted after discussion continued below]: I'm sorry, about the first Keep vote in the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brittany Wiser, I was mistaken that it should be disregarded (and have struck that above). I confused between a "Speedy Keep" at the Wiser AFD (which wasn't even the first Keep) and a "Speedy Keep" at some other AFD that was knee-jerk and invalid. Sorry for causing confusion here, by my mistake. Still, with 3 deletes, I think that a good closure requires some careful discussion of quality of arguments, by the closer, and should probably not be a NAC. --do ncr am 12:10, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

one of the voters was evidently acting in bad faith. So bad that I am thinking about seeking to have his admin ship revoked if he continues with his misapplication of policy. Also 18 people participated in the group AFD and 12 made strong policy based arguments to delete all and others to delete most. Their views were not considered by User:DGG at all so they need to be invited to participate or have their votes considered now. Legacypac (talk) 11:25, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

@Legacypac: Interesting. Well, what bugs me most here is, if you (or anybody else for that matter) thinks that I have closed where I should not have closed. If that is the case, let me know, and I will reopen. -- Sam ^Sing! 11:29, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

I am not an Admin either and I am very sympathetic to your desire to do non-admin closures. I disagree with your assessment and feel it is inadequate for reasons stated. Legacypac (talk) 11:43, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

OK, tell me which you want me to re-open, and I will reopen each and every one. -- Sam ^Sing! 11:45, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

I appreciate your flexibility. Okay, I'll take you up on your offer, if that was to me too, and I do ask that you re-open Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brittany Wiser, and request that you probably shouldn't close any of the others among the batch of 12 inter-linked AFDs of models, which are all stil open. It would be fine if you indicate in a comment there that you closed and were asked to unclose, and give a vote or not, yourself. I may myself vote in a reopened Brittany Wiser AFD, and if I do, I will self-disclose that I asked for the re-opening. I don't think Legacypac, and definitely not me, are commenting on any other NonAdminCloses you might have done, and to be clear i think these 2 NACs were marginal and others could view them differently. --do ncr am 22:57, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Just a comment: Before I became an admin, I interpreted the limitation on NAC closures VERY strictly. I basically closed only cases where there were nothing but "keep" votes. IMO once you are balancing keeps against deletes, you are basically functioning at an admin level. I know that not all NAC closers agree with this assessment; they feel they can spot an obvious case (say with multiple Keeps and a single Delete) and close it. But I don't think a non-admin should ever attempt to close a discussion that has multiple delete !votes. It could be that the discussion is being stacked by puppets, or that one side is better grounded in policy than the other; these are decisions admins should make. I say this without looking at any of the cases discussed here or recommending any course of action on them; this is just my philosophy. --MelanieN (talk) 23:43, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Doncram, it has been reopened. MelanieN thanks for your input, I will keep it in mind. And @all involved: my apologies if I ventured into areas above my paycheck. Best, -- Sam ^Sing! 00:15, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Sam Sailor and MelanieN ! -- MelanieN's suggestion may be good, although indeed wp:NAC does allow "Clear keep outcomes after a full listing period (stated in the instructions to each XfD, this is usually seven days), absent any contentious debate among participants." It's subjective when it's a "clear keep"; i interpreted Sam Sailor as viewing it to be clear, though I disagreed, no problem, all good. cheers, bye --do ncr am 02:15, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Bananasoldier. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Super16 (film school), and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. Bananasoldier (talk) 02:47, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

@Bananasoldier: Since I wrote the article and fly the WP:AUTOPAT flag, it gets patrolled automatically, and since it is neither a candidate for speedy nor PROD, the need for un-reviewing does not exist. If you think otherwise, please let me know. -- Sam ^Sing! 09:20, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

4st 7lb

Good job rescuing this one Sam! §FreeRangeFrog^croak 04:04, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing, FreeRangeFrog - and I don't really fancy that band! I was merely demonstrating that nom, who was banned from tagging with {{notability}} all of a sudden nominated 17 articles for deletion within less than 48 hours, and that, in at least this case, they had done no BEFORE due diligence. -- Sam ^Sing! 09:25, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

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V. K. Singh page unedit

You made a mistake unediting V. K. Singh page.

You made a mistake due to:

EITHER

Your (according to my presumption) ignorance of Hindi language; in which meaning of the word drastically changes from something ordinary "Chhodo" meaning "leave, quit" to something highly vulgar "Chodo" meaning "ahem, well....ahem, let's just say something very vulgar".

OR

You have nothing better to do, and are micro-moderating.

I'm assuming it's the former, and also assuming you will revert back my edit.

You're welcome in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.170.219.38 (talk) 03:04, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Please sign your posts on talk pages per Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. Thanks!

@67.170.219.38: This situation could likely have been avoided if you had followed good practice and provided an edit summary explaining the reason for your edit. The consonant cluster chh is not in use in any of the languages I know, so when patrolling recent changes with WP:STiki such an edit looks like ordinary disruptive editing. Please also notice that the cite news used as source

"VK Singh now battles with Baba Ramdev". Zee News. ANI. 12 August 2012.

does indeed say "Singhaasan Chodo Janta Aati Hai".

With your explanation I have no reason to doubt that the error goes all the way back to the transliteration in the source. I have brought up the question on Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics where you are welcome to chime in. -- Sam ^Sing! 10:14, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Department of Health & Human Services (Victoria)

Thread retitled from "09:44:20, 10 February 2015 review of submission by Melbournematters".

I have updated the page with reliable references as requested. Melbournematters (talk) 09:44, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Look at my comment in the draft. Could you find some WP:SECONDARY sources? -- Sam ^Sing! 10:27, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

AfD

This AfD brought a smile to my face, esp. checking the previous nomination was by the same editor, less than a year ago! Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 13:08, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: Ooops! Don't tell him about User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/deletionFinder.js. ... I'll see if I can find a source to add. Cheers, -- Sam ^Sing! 13:38, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: You're not using citation tool for Google Books? -- Sam ^Sing! 13:50, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Wow, I had no idea that existed! Very useful. Thanks! Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 14:11, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Indeed, yes. (Hard to believe an editor with your track record did not have Reftag bookmarked already.) -- Sam ^Sing! 14:15, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

re: Various questions

Short answer: Yes. Production companies are fine, the distribution ones are a bit of a grey area and are often non-defining. For example, a non-English language film will have different distribution companies in the US/UK. Might be worth raising it at WT:FILM as it's one area I don't do much editing in. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 19:13, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: OK, I'll raise the question over there. My thought was that we have a (limited) plainlist in the infobox for Distributors, but that distributors do not qualify for a Category. Thanks, -- Sam ^Sing! 19:38, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

21:04:12, 10 February 2015 review of submission by 220.244.228.205

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220.244.228.205 (talk) 21:04, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

I have added a newspaper article explaining the changes to the departments.

Message from Obedear

Hey Sam, I don't know how this works but I only created an account because I was looking for information last night, and all the info had just been deleted and replaced with the word penis. because I did not know how to report the page, I created an account, deleted the profanity, and typed a message someone deleted all the info and replaced with profanity, and I asked for someone to please update the page in my message. This morning when I decided to check for the info I had a message on my account stating that I had vandalized the page, when I did just the opposite. I don't appreciate me being accused of vandalism, especially because it annoys me. Sorry if this message messes up your page (I am new to this) but you did mess up mine by accusing me of vandalism. If you reply to this I will not see it unless it is on my page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Obedear (talk • contribs) 17:44, 11 February 2015‎

Please sign your posts on talk pages per Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. Thanks!

You are absolutely right, Obedear, that's a mistake both from ClueBOT (a robot that normally does a very good job at detecting unwarrented edits) and myself. Accept my apologies, please, you did the right thing. I will remove the warning messages from your talk page and post a welcome message. If you have any questions, do not hesitate to ask. Best, -- Sam ^Sing! 18:01, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

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6th Bodil Awards

Dealt with that

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Whiate consumer = I — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.1.234.186 (talk) 20:53, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

I could ask you to go and read WP:V, but I think the better suggestion is to ask you to post at WT:KOREA, so somebody there can explain, translated to Korean, how we work here. Best, -- Sam ^Sing! 02:40, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Valentine Greets!!!

Valentine Greets!!!

Hello Sam Sailor, love is the language of hearts and is the feeling that joins two souls and brings two hearts together in a bond. Taking love to the level of Wikipedia, spread the WikiLove by wishing each other Happy Valentine's Day, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person.
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Draft:Movebubble

I've unmarked this draft as under review because it appears you have not edited it for a number of hours. Cheers, --L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 04:49, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

@Lixxx235: Thanks for that, L235. Best, -- Sam ^Sing! 10:11, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Happy Valentine's Day!!!

the bachelor season 19

You have disabled editing on this page for some reason and now no one can correct the incorrect information on the page!!! What's the point of Wikipedia anyway if the information on your site is not correct????

Britt did NOT withdraw from the show. She talked about doing so but was sent home by Chris before she was able to quit/withdraw. If Wikipedia is going to exist, then you need to either put correct information on your pages or allow the general public to do so for you!!!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.90.210.162 (talk) 16:01, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

You have several options here: A. Create an WP:ACCOUNT. As soon as you are autoconfirmed, you can edit The Bachelor (season 19). B. If you do not want to sign up for an account, consider filing sensible Wikipedia:Edit requests on the article talk page. If you have further questions, don't hesitate to ask. -- Sam ^Sing! 16:14, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

20:37:09, 17 February 2015 review of submission by Hearingdeafone

Hearingdeafone (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Civil Coping Mechanisms (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I disagree regarding editor Sam Sailor's characterization of the page's tone as not formal enough, and that it uses peacock terms. I would like specific references to moments in the submitted article where informal tone and peacock terms occur. I would also like to see an example of an article about a comparable subject which Sam Sailor believes avoids informality/peacock terms. For example, the Two Dollar Radio page, or the Poets & Writers page.

Hearingdeafone (talk) 20:37, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

It does appear you got my last name wrong there. Not that it matters a whole lot to me, but it might to other editors here. -- Sam ^Sing! 20:45, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Whoops! Sorry Sam

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Tom Blake

Hell, Sam, and thanks for the kind words about the article I just submitted. I notice it is rated "class C" and was wondering how I could improve it. I hope to add some photos as soon as I can straighten out copyright issues-- is there anything else I can add or change? Thanks again, very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hudsonberry (talk • contribs) 17:30, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

@Hudsonberry: I was too stingy, and have raised it to B. You should def. deal with the IBID issue; shouldn't take you long. Best, -- Sam ^Sing! 17:42, 18 February 2015 (UTC) Please sign your posts on talk pages per Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. Thanks!

Thanks a lot-- didn't know about an "ibid" issue but will look it up.Hudsonberry (talk) 17:51, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

WP:IBID ... thought you had seen my message on your talk page. -- Sam ^Sing! 17:52, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Oh-- just reread your message and now I understand. Will fix! (Sometimes I'm slow.) Hudsonberry (talk) 17:54, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

@Hudsonberry: No prob at all. If you have two weeks to spare, sit down, read and memorize WP:MOS ... then please return and teach me, coz I can't remember most parts of it. ;-) -- Sam ^Sing! 17:58, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

LOL-- I'll get right on it!Hudsonberry (talk) 18:03, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Sam, can you point me to the process for straightening up the disambiguation situation? There's a disambiguation page for "Thomas Blake" but if you simply search Wikipedia for Tom Blake, it doesn't take you there, but to "Tom Blake (Australian footballer)." Any help would be appreciated. Hudsonberry (talk) 20:09, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Update: I think I'm almost there-- edited the "Thomas Blake" disambiguation page and added a hatnote to the Tom Blake (Australian footballer) page. Is there anything else I should be doing? Thanks agaiin for all your help. Hudsonberry (talk) 21:24, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

WarrenJStuart

Hi Sam, The Sequart page I was trying to create was originally posted on the ComicsRascal account, but was deleted a long time ago when it wasn't approved. I Resubmitted the old page (from the ComicsRascal account with the additions that were suggested previously). This has been frustrating though because (before re-submitting the old page from ComicsRascal) I tried again using this new account (warrenjstuart) and was denied because the article was a duplicate. Should I try to resubmit the old page again (posted by ComicsRascal)? Please advise. 20:30, 18 February 2015 (UTC) Stuart W. 12:29PM PST — Preceding unsigned comment added by Warrenjstuart (talk • contribs)

@Warrenjstuart:

Please sign your posts on talk pages per Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. Thanks!

Draft:Sequart Organization was created by ComicsRascal on 25 June 2014 and edited by you on 15:46, 15 February 2015‎

Draft:Sequart Organization (2) was created by you on 14 January 2015 and has not been edited by ComicsRascal

A few minutes after you edited Draft:Sequart Organization ComicsRascal pops up after not having edited for 7+ months and creates a third draft in their sandbox.

Whatever the reasons, could you just stick to the oldest, Draft:Sequart Organization? If you need guidance, a lot of fine editors are ready to answer your questions at the helpdesk or serve you a cuppa at the Teahouse. Best, -- Sam ^Sing! 22:16, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

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@Lixxx235: Thanks, very kind of you. If we were 200 editors reviewing two submissions each a day, we would soon get rid of the backlog. -- Sam ^Sing! 09:04, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

14:15:21, 19 February 2015 review of submission by Henryokeyia

Henryokeyia (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Ray Blaze (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi i am trying to make a new Draft for the Artist Ray Blaze but i really do not understand how the citation works after reading the Help topic i still dont understand properly i will be glad if any one can help me on this.

Regards

Henry

Henryokeyia (talk) 14:15, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

@Henryokeyia: Wikipedia:Citing sources is the friend you need. -- Sam ^Sing! 14:19, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Metacognitive Therapy

Hi Sam. I'm trying to understand the process that gave rise to Metacognitive Therapy. I'm a very experienced editor, but I've never used AFC and don't understand how it works. All I can see is that the article was created by a new editor, user:Wiki Djinn42, who has a total of three edits, the second of which was to create that entire article in a single edit in his sandbox. I have some concerns about the article -- it has a strongly promotional appearance to me. I'm wondering if the AFC process involved some interactions that I can't see, that satisfied you about the article's legitimacy. I'm not accusing anybody of anything, I just don't know how to proceed at this point. Best regards, Looie496 (talk) 22:32, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

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@Looie496: If you look at my contribs I am sure you can see that I do a lot of work, and I have absolutely no relations or interactions with any editor submitting articles. Granted, I'm not a medical expert, but Metacognitive Therapy appeared to be well sourced and whatever aspect of "we made the concept" is in there I thought could be left to the editors here to deal with. But I'll gladly here from you if you think it's an empty pot of promo piss ... or anything in-between. Best, -- Sam ^Sing! 22:39, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

It's definitely not the worst thing I've ever seen :-), but it fits the general pattern of paid editing. I can ask the editor who created it, of course, but I bet I don't get any response. One thing is certain: whoever created that article is a highly experienced editor. Best regards, Looie496 (talk) 22:54, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

@Looie496: Among the many AFCs I had the "pleasure" of reviewing yesterday, MT was, compared to most, a fine submission. If it's been a while since you did mundane chores like reading Articles for Creation, hit the green button and do a bunch, if you dare. :) Best, -- Sam ^Sing! 08:58, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

I do quite a bit of mundane work in terms of maintaining WP:WikiProject Neuroscience and participating in WP:WikiProject Medicine. Anyway, I just spent about an hour cleaning up that article. I know what a pleasure it must be to see a well-formed article amidst all the crap you're subjected to, but it would also be good to be alert to the hallmarks of paid editing -- I personally believe that promotional editing is the greatest threat to Wikipedia in the long run. There are a number of experienced editors who have been offering their services for hire. They try to conceal the fact that they are writing for money, but the articles they create tend to follow a certain pattern: (1) they are correctly formatted and include plenty of references; (2) they are subtly promotional in tone and never say anything negative about their subjects; (3) they come from new accounts, because the editors who do this don't want anybody to be able to track their work. If you have any doubts about the validity of an article on a health-related topic, please ask about it at WT:MED. WikiProject Medicine is very active, and you're likely to get a quick response; we get a substantial number of queries from editors who participate in AFC. Best regards, Looie496 (talk) 14:35, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips, @Looie496:, I will keep WT:MED in mind. Best, -- Sam ^Sing! 15:09, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Request on 17:24:15, 19 February 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Schultzenheimer

Schultzenheimer (talk · contribs)
- User:Schultzenheimer (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This is my first submission of a Wikipedia entry. I was inspired to create it after stumbling across the entries for products similar to our, but made by competitors. In this case, I referred to Makroclear, an existing Wikipedia entry, as a template. I admit, I copied and pasted the source content from Makrolon entry and then edited it to contain info about Palsun, which is our brand of polycarbonate. I did not want to plagiarize the Makrolon entry, but I also wanted to follow its form to ensure that it would fit within the Wikipedia standards. The text I added was intended to clarify some things.

I have now edited the entry so that it very closely resembles the Makrolon entry. If it is declined again, I would really like to know, more specifically, why, and how Makrolon would continue to be posted.

Thanks for taking the time to review the first time around. I have a lot of respect for Wikipedia and hope to become a valuable contributor over time. This effort was my first attempt to emulate something that was there. A college English instructor had us do something similar for writing projects, emulate passages from books that we read in class. I learned a lot about structure and form that way. My goal was to do that here too.

Thanks,

Stan Schultz

Schultzenheimer (talk) 17:24, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

@Schultzenheimer: Stan, thanks for being frank. I'll be frank with you then. The Wikipedia:Other stuff exists-argument is not valid here. As soon as I have finished typing this message to you I will tag Makroclear for deletion. It only goes to show that we are too few editors to keep up with the amount of crap being posted by people who think Wikipedia is just another kind of Facebook for their autobiography, their garage-band, their product. I could very well be wrong, but judging from a brief Google-search, there might be more to add about Palsun than there is about Makroclear. However, it has to be based on sources, and it might be an uphill experience. But good luck. And if you really want to stay here and edit, I'll be glad to try to help you getting started in the areas that have your interest. You just let me know. Best, -- Sam ^Sing! 17:45, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Just a follow-up saying that I WP:BOLDly redirected the unsourced Makroclear to Polycarbonate where it was already mentioned. -- Sam ^Sing! 17:51, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

I confess that it took me a while to look up and figure out how to reply on your talk page—and I'm not yet sure I'm doing it correctly. In an age where typical user interfaces are elegant and easy to use, Wikipedia sure seems to make it somewhat difficult to do. I imagine that normally would help keep a dolt like me from meesing things up. Anyway, thanks for your reply.

So now I have a couple of questions... let me know if I should instead take them to the "Teahouse" (I think I saw that as the place where questions can be answered. I can accept that the "Other stuff exists" argument is no valid, and I appreciate that you redirected the Makroclear article to Polycarbonate, however, the Makroclear article is what inspired my actions to begin with. Near the beginning of that article, "Lexan" and "Makrolon" are mention as "brands" of polycarbonate. I wondered what would prevent me from adding our brand to that entry. I discovered that the entry was locked due to "Disruptive Editing," which i can understand. --as an asside, Lexan and Makrolon are trademarked brands for PC resins and are used with extensions for semi-finished products (i.e. Lexan Corrugated). I'm willing to accept that because Lexan and Makrolon are PC resin brands that they deserve to be listed there, whereas Palsun is only a brand for family of a semi-finished products.

I see that MakroKlear has now been added to the semi-finished products list. It was my original goal to have our brands added to that list. 1) Is that possible? 2) If so, who do I submit the the request to? 3) If not, why? (given that others are listed) 4) SUNLITE is a trademark of Palram Industries, Ltd. and is used for our multi-wall polycarbonate products. The wiki entry Sunlite as being from VMI Plastics in India. We have marketing offices in India, so there is a chance that VMI is selling our product, but they certainly don't attribute Palram on their website (I'm having our people look into that). What is the criteria for determining which products get listed in the semi-finished product list. based on what I see, ours should be listed there (Palsun, Sunlite, and Suntuf).

Again, I appreciate you taking the time to review. Wikipedia is a monstrous colection of information, most of which requires a lot of reading, searching, looking at related links, etc. It's seems pretty challenging to find answers on your own. Schultzenheimer (talk) 20:37, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

@Schultzenheimer: My best advise here is that you go to Talk:Polycarbonate, open a new section, and ask the same frank questions. Hopefully there are editors there who are not only knowledgeable regarding the material but also the trade names and the business, I am not. Best, -- Sam ^Sing! 20:54, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Got it. Now that I understand the talk feature, I have a sense of how to proceed. Thanks for your help. Schultzenheimer (talk) 00:09, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

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06:21:45, 20 February 2015 review of submission by 180.149.46.148

180.149.46.148 (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Clean e-India (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello, This is a nationwide environmental initiative in India by IFC for cleaning e-Waste in India. It is similar to "Swachh Bharat Abhiyan launched by Prime Minister of India ([Swachh_Bharat_Abhiyan]).

180.149.46.148 (talk) 06:21, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Request on 09:17:36, 20 February 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Stevedekorte

Stevedekorte (talk · contribs)
- User:Stevedekorte (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Sam, thanks for reviewing the Bitmarkets page. Can you tell me in which way the Bitmarkets page differs from the Open Bazaar page that allows Open Bazaar to be acceptable but Bitmarkets not to be acceptable? Thanks.

Stevedekorte (talk) 09:17, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

@Stevedekorte: The question you ask is a variation on Wikipedia:Other stuff exists. I have tagged OpenBazaar. ... AfC is a a place where you can get feedback on article creation instead of dumping it into main space (the area with articles proper) all at once risking speedy deletion or PRODing. Bitmarkets (your sandbox) would probably survive but be tagged with {{ref improve}}. ... I have to say that considering you supposedly are writing about your own "baby", you're doing a fine job at staying neutral. -- Sam ^Sing! 09:33, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Love for the Elderly

Hi Sam, Thank you for looking over my "Love for the Elderly" article. I appreciate it! I've been trying to improve the credibility of the sources, and I think it's a good article now... just a little short. I'd be very grateful if you could look over it again to help me improve it.

Thank you very much, and have a wonderful day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacobeliii (talk • contribs) 15:58, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Joseph Sledge

Thanks for your comments on the new article I created, Its the first time I've created an article, so I appreciate the timely reply. I've expanded the references greatly, (and learned how to cite the same source multiple times :), and, in any case, I've resubmitted it. Insertcleverphrasehere (talk) 02:24, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

@Insertcleverphrasehere: There's always something new to learn here, I know that feeling! Looks good with the added sources, I'll let somebody else have a look so we get more eyes on the draft. -- Sam ^Sing! 08:48, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Regarding article(draft) declined today named Epic Research Private Limited

Hello Sam, This is my first article on wikipedia under the title "Epic Research Private Limited", one of the financial company in my residing city Indore. I have wrote many articles before and haven't got any problem. Yes, I find some problem with the Wiki-code. Please help me to know the reason behind rejection of the Draft.

Hoping for the positive response.

Regards, Anshul — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anshul01784 (talk • contribs) 05:42, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

@Anshul01784: Hi Anshul. Please sign your posts on talk pages per Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. Thanks! What other articles have you written? -- Sam ^Sing! 08:51, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Charles Church artist - rejected submission

You recently rejected my submission on the equine artist Charles Church because of the lack of reliable references.

This is an artist who is not in the public eye so extended references are difficult, although he has shown work personally to the Queen and his clients include owners like the Aga Khan.

I have included six references in addition to his own website - sees below.

Can you explain what more I need to do ?

Alastair Nisbet 21 Feb 2015 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alastair Nisbet (talk • contribs) 07:52, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

@Alastair Nisbet: Please sign your posts on talk pages per Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. Thanks! You could start moving the references inline as we do in biographies of living persons. I have done it with one using the template {{Cite web}}. -- Sam ^Sing! 09:35, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for help re Charles Church artist

Sam - thank you so much for your help.

References are now in the right style I hope !

Am I getting there ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Charles_Church_(artist)#cite_note-1

regards Alastair Nisbet (talk) 10:52, 21 February 2015 (UTC)Alastair Nisbet

Yeah, looks good, Alastair, try to move them up inline so they support something in the text. -- Sam ^Sing! 10:56, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks again - I've added a couple into the text but the references are mainly about him in general not specific works. Do I need to delete from references and leave in external links - otherwise they are appearing twice.

Alastair Nisbet (talk) 12:09, 21 February 2015 (UTC)Alastair Nisbet

Have a look at what I did, yes, if we cite a reference inline, we don't also have it in the External links section. I suggest you resubmit the draft so other editors can have a look at it and give their opinion. Best, -- Sam ^Sing! 12:28, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Yep, I spotted what you'd done before I saw your note. Thanks so much Sam - I have learned a lot ! Alastair Nisbet (talk) 12:31, 21 February 2015 (UTC)Alastair Nisbet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sanjib_Sahoo

Sam

I see the article I submitted was not accepted. This is my first time trying to create a wiki page and went through the guidelines on notable individuals and don't fully understand the primary/secondary sources.

Can you give some examples to explain this better?

Is there anyway I can actually chat with you?

Thanks TH — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikicontributorTH (talk • contribs) 03:40, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

@WikicontributorTH: Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources is a good place to start. But using citations that don't mention subject is naturally not a good idea. -- Sam ^Sing! 09:16, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Sam

All the citations I used mention the subject. I have too many citations though, should I pull some of these out and submit? Please help!

THanks TH — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikicontributorTH (talk • contribs) 03:09, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Please sign your posts on talk pages per Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. Thanks!

No they did not. The two first I opened did not mention him at all. You should not have that long list of press and media. Spend a couple of days with Help:Referencing for beginners in other browser window and give the draft a good overhaul before re-submitting. -- Sam ^Sing! 12:43, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Double standards re notability

Forwarded message to WT:MED#Comment on Draft:Hushe A-CES

The following is a closed discussion. Please do not modify it.

Hello Wikipedia Editor,

I should like to highlight a glaring disparity in the way, for example, a film due for release in the coming year, with no independent reviews as yet, is able to make it onto the pages of Wikipedia and yet another product that is not a film but has beneficial applications to mental health is not.

I refer of course to your disapproval of the page for the Hushe A-CES, a device which I used last year as part of a research study and found to be exceptionally good at alleviating my insomnia. As with anything that is relatively new, is it not a surprise there exists little third party subject matter on it? And yet a future release of a film is allowable by mere mention by the producer?

One feels a tiny bit like a character in George Orwell's 1984, with knowledge being controlled by the whim of those in control. The article I submitted about the Hushe A-CES cranial electrotherapy stimulator manufactured by Hushe Limited in the United Kingdom should not be suppressed just because it is little known of. As with a future film, or a past event, these are all real things. The mere fact that I have not identified a third party as a source of information should not be ground for exclusion and smacks of pedantry. If you look at the research study cited in my article you will find references to comments I and other third parties gave to the study administrator. Am I to infer from your stance that you do not regard this as third party material? If so, do you therefore agree that this implies falsification on the part of the author of that study? I am sure you appreciate the gravity of such an implied statement.

I would therefore encourage you to suggest a review of Wikipedia's notability policy and look forward to my article's equal treatment to the countless others which are permitted merely for adhering to cultural precepts of acceptability.

Kind regards

Paul — Preceding unsigned comment added by Friendlymilk (talk • contribs) 15:26, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Message from Lostboy11

Hello sir i was wondering if you could help me with my article yung Rhymes[4] because you are an admin and you have more experience--Lostboy11 (talk) 15:31, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Sam please could you submit my article but leave a reference notice and i will sort the references--Lostboy11 (talk) 15:39, 21 February 2015 (UTC) out

Sorry, I have other things on my plate. -- Sam ^Sing! 16:29, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks anyway--Lostboy11 (talk) 18:31, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

18:27:48, 21 February 2015 review of submission by Tmar456

Tmar456 (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Marcus Collins (Singer, Actor) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Tmar456 (talk) 18:27, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Sam,

The article was originally declined prior to adding Marcus's Film and TV credits. Because of his extensive list of acting credits I believe he is a notable person on his own. The group he is a member of is definitely notable, but the fact that he is a member of SAG with multiple film credits seems that he would meet the criteria. Additionally there was a Wikipedia page for Marcus for several years and it was suddenly deleted right around the same time as another singer from the UK emerged. I believe because of the two individuals with the same name in the same industry should each have their own page. The Texas Tenors page can link to Marcus. Currently if you search Wikipedia for him there is only a page to another singer by the same name.

Please advise.

Thank you.

No matter what subject might be notable for the onus of proof lies with you, and as I said in my review there is not much in the current refs that indicates notability per WP:ACTOR or WP:BASIC. I could be wrong. -- Sam ^Sing! 18:36, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Well your comment threw me off because you said: "Noting in the sources here used as references indicate that subject is notable for a stand-alone article" But then you declined it after saying he was notable. Were you mistaken in your comment? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tmar456 (talk • contribs) 18:41, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Please sign your posts on talk pages per Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. Thanks!

No. Please read it again. Or the short version: "Noting [...] indicate that subject is notable for a stand-alone article" -- Sam ^Sing! 18:45, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

My apologies for the signature.

Are you saying I need to add more external references?

Tmar456 (talk) 18:53, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

@Tmar456: Yes. Help:Referencing for beginners might be of what you need now. -- Sam ^Sing! 18:56, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Delete my draft

To me, on Draft:Firewall: Man vs. Machine, there aren't that many sources. Can u delete it? 23.243.249.28 (talk) 21:18, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

@23.243.249.28: I see you have tagged it with {{db-g7}}, and that's exactly what to do. Thanks. Did you ever think about creating an WP:ACCOUNT? -- Sam ^Sing! 21:42, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Paul Skilbeck biography

Sam, I sent you a mail with reasons I would like this biography about me to be deleted. I consider some of the content to be disproportionate, only partially accurate, biased and defamatory. While I do not see Wikipedia in any way as a promotional vehicle, I expect it to present information in its proper context.

The inclusion concerning the Moscaline blog post is incompletely reported. The post does not mention that the Moscaline blog followed up with a post noting there had been a miscommunication between us, that he wrote his report while he was angry and that he writes the response of the cycling community got out of hand - about which he expressed contrition in our telephone conversation. Neither is there reference is made to the fact that there were extenuating circumstances and apologies on both side.

The post states that some questioned me, but it does not state that others with better knowledge of the situation wrote in support. The post does not state that some who were critical publicly retracted their remarks.

Furthermore, no caveats are given that sometimes blog posts are unreliable and can create a mob mentality in which an individual is not given a fair hearing and as such should not always be taken seriously. Certainly not seriously enough to be included in Wikipedia.

My question: Did an expert in the field submit this? Or was it somebody who just picked up something from a Google search? Can anybody with a professional agenda or a personal grudge submit to Wikipedia? What are the safeguards against this? I drew this Moscaline post to the attention of an experienced journalist and media manager that I know in Slovenia, Andrej Dekleva, who wrote in response: "oh my god, silly stuff: Skilbeck's credibility as a communications expert has recently been called into question by the cycling community due to his dubious handling of media credentials at the 2013 NAHBS.[1]"

So, at least one expert in the field now thinks Wikipedia includes "silly stuff." Well, two actually, if I count myself. I am sure I could find more if I drew the attention of others to it. Pskilbeck (talk) 06:03, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

@Pskilbeck: Paul, I removed that line from the article sourced from the Moscaline blog. It's not a reliable source for what was stated. And as the IP editor that added it is Aussie, I think anybody can put 2 and 2 together and will get something in the range of 3.5 and 4.5. Indeed silly. Anything else you want me to do? Best, -- Sam ^Sing! 09:32, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

@Sam Sailer: Thank you Sam. In the comments on the biographical piece, some editors questioned my position in my field and requested further evidence. All I really can offer from that period is a print piece written about me in a Dutch cycling publication, Wieler Revue, from their Mountain Bike Special in 1999. This makes reference to my getting the International Cycling Union online as well as creating an international association of the press working in mountain biking (to enhance efficiencies in working conditions at world cup events). The Mountain Bike Press Association was very influential for a few crucial years in the sport's early development, and was a lot more than 'a club' as one editor suggested when he removed that reference.

I have not felt comfortable (and still don't) contributing to a discussion about my own biography, which is why I have been silent about all this until now. It's up to others to write if they feel so inclined, and I already have my CV on LinkedIn anyway. I just felt the Moscaline piece was incongruous. Pskilbeck (talk) 06:55, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

11:21:30, 20 February 2015 review of submission by 86.97.72.187

86.97.72.187 (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Saeed Al Nazari (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello, Can we know why the sources isn't notable? it was all from Official Newspapers in both Arabic and English Please advise so we work on a better draft

86.97.72.187 (talk) 11:21, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

@86.97.72.187: Thank you for your message. Having had a second look at the article, I actually think the coverage is good enough to meet WP:BIO. If you submit the draft again, I will publish it into main space. -- Sam ^Sing! 11:41, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello Sam, Thanks a lot; I have resubmit the draft again. For your kind review and approval. 2.50.42.18 (talk) 07:33, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	The Barnstar of Diligence
	Thank you for the hard work you do at article for creation. We at WikiProject Medicine appreciate you keeping out low quality information. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:34, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

@Doc James: Thanks, James, kind of you to notice. We are almost down to 800 pending submissions now, not fantastic, but at least c. 400 less than 4 days ago.

Looie496 deserves credit here. I had asked for comments on drafts at WT:MATH a couple of times, and Looie encouraged me to post at WT:MED when needed. And the teaching here is so obvious: accept that you're not omnipotent when reviewing AfCs, just turn to the people in the know. Knowledge diversty is, after all, one of the core strengths of the project. Best, -- Sam ^Sing! 08:45, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Draft:436th Operations Support Squadron (2) Not a Duplicate of a Pending Submission

Draft:436th Operations Support Squadron (2) is a duplicate, but the other draft is not a pending submission (the author appears to have abandoned it last month and started over), so I don't believe you should have declined (2) as a duplicate. Of course there may be other good reasons to decline it. Would you revisit your decline, or at least the reason for it? Thanks Worldbruce (talk) 21:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

@Worldbruce: Bruce, in a case like this just undo me and do what you think is necessary. Where did you see the detail re pending submission, I do not see it in the template docs? -- Sam ^Sing! 21:46, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Will do. There's a paragraph near the very bottom of WP:AFCR with details on duplicate submissions. Thanks for your participation in AfC, since starting work here I've never seen the backlog this low.Worldbruce (talk) 01:09, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

You're right, Worldbruce, thanks for pointing this out for me. And it has to be the same editor. OK, fair enough. ... Yes, we are down to about 800, it's going in the right direction. Cheers, -- Sam ^Sing! 08:48, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Bossdude777

They've made quite a few changes. I have a feeling they could be subtle vandalism, but I'm not sure. —George8211 / T 15:39, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, George8211, sometimes it is hard to tell. -- Sam ^Sing! 15:50, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

15:39:35, 22 February 2015 review of submission by HindustanScientist

HindustanScientist (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Devendra Paliwal (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

HindustanScientist (talk) 15:39, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello Sir,.

First thanks for reviewing my Article & thanks for support.
I have seen you have declined the Article, but i am not clear "How can i attach the proofs so that it can prove that all the Contents, Achivements, Inventions are 100% valid ?".
Please let me know how can i attach & send it to you so that you can validate?.

Moreover i will give you the Scientist details, .
Dr. Devendra Paliwal Currently working in Central Silk Board of INDIA(Govt of INDIA).
Ofiice Phone No:+91 0596-3221244.
Mobile No: +91 9242281351.

Note: After reviewing all the details with the scientist or please let me know the procedure to validate, i kindly request you to look again this Draft.

Thanks.
Regards.
Anubhav

Follow and read the links in the pink box in the draft. -- Sam ^Sing! 15:53, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

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Expanding a stub

I am new to expanding stub articles - just fixed typos before this. I started with the original, short article, pasting the code into my sandbox. Instead of rewriting the page itself, I used my own sandbox and asked for a review, before pasting it into the article itself. What should I do?

I wanted to add more facts and citations to Brad Myers' stub of an article. Here are the two articles to compare:

1. Stub: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Myers which says, "...is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it."

2. My Sandbox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Athomeeditor/sandbox

Number 1 is very short, so you can easily compare it to my expanded article (keeping the old words and image), number 2. All the things I added are heavily cited, and are mostly about degrees, employment, papers he wrote, and awards he won. Your comments seemed to say that it looked like it could be added, except that it was a duplicate entry. Right?

What should I do next, to expand the stub -- just paste in my revision? I preferred to ask for someone to review it first, which is why there are two -- with the unpublished one staying in my Sandbox until you release it, hopefully! Thanks for your work!

Athomeeditor (talk) 21:54, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

I think it looks fairly good down to Awards. Well, leave out "He has attended every one of the 32 ACM SIGCHI conferences, and all the badges are shown here", because if we should go into details like that in BLPs who knows where we would end. Are there sources that talk about Myers having attended all 32 conferences, or do you just find it interesting yourself? You are, I presume, into Human-Computer Interaction yourself. I am not, so I had to look up SIFCHI manually. You had not linked it. Always think about the reader. Do not assume he knows what you know. The other thing is that you in-text link to an external URL ("shown here"). We don't do that much.

Bulleted lists are always boring and if possible should be written in prose. Could that be done with the Awards and honours section? (But, granted, there are cases where bulleted lists are just fine, don't get me wrong, a list of selected papers or a bibliography will be just that: a list.)

In your section /Research projects/ (mind the caps, it's not "Research Projects", WP:MOS is the holy scripture, and I can't remember a quarter of it so don't dispair!) you have a level 3 section about gemstones. IMHO you get into trivial details that do not belong in an encyclopaedia. Yeah, I can see it is funny, it is funny in this nerdy way, but it's much better suited for a blog, not for Wikipedia.

The first 8-10 lines are current and former projects, and again you are linking externally. I would assume that these projects can be found from Myers' web page, and I would not include them here. Are some of them worth mentioning in prose in the /Career/ section? Can you source the mention with references?

Best, -- Sam ^Sing! 22:51, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

01:06:49, 23 February 2015 review of submission by Yogthos

Yogthos (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Luminus (web framework) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Sam,

I've added additional references for Luminus. The reason I believe Luminus is notable is due to the fact that it's currently the most widely used Clojure web framework and frameworks of similar scope for Ruby and Python have already been accepted by Wikipedia.

I've added a reference for a book published about the framework, an active Google Group with discussions regarding Luminus, as well as additional sites discussing it. It appears that frameworks with similar amount of reference such as Flask have been accepted. Let me know if you're looking for any more specific references or if the updated ones are sufficient.

Regards, Dmitri

Yogthos (talk) 01:06, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

23:34:03, 22 February 2015 review of submission by Bobtinin

Bobtinin (talk · contribs)
- Draft:PULSAR: Lost Colony (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I don't know why this was denied for notability. Is Valve not a reliable source now? Last time I noticed, Steam Greenlight showed obvious notability for games, plus the fact that the game will eventually become an Early Access game. And if that's not enough, do I need to refer to the forum to show the size of the PULSAR community? Bobtinin (talk) 23:34, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Then you need to read Wikipedia:Notability (video games). The draft as it stands is supported mainly by self-published sources and Youtube videos. The size of the PULSAR community does not establish notability. -- Sam ^Sing! 23:47, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

I used "self-published sources" to justify the summary of changes and gameplay of the game. It's literally straight from the developers when I refer to their videos. And I feel like I'm repeating myself here, when a game on Steam is greenlit, it means that Valve has worked with the developers to publish this game on Steam. I'm really speechless when you say that is somehow not notable. I will refer you to this. On top of this, like that page you've linked me has said, I have provided commentary beyond basic game data. From what I understand you want more outside (reliable) sources vs. primary sources, so if that's what you want, then tell me and it's done. --Bobtinin (talk) 01:15, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

08:36:22, 23 February 2015 review of submission by Lancehyde

Lancehyde (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Caleb Slain (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Thank you for taking the time to review Caleb Slain. I'm not a writer. I don't know how to represent the nobility of this human being.

Lancehyde (talk) 08:36, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

07:51:25, 23 February 2015 review of submission by GrupoELP01

GrupoELP01 (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Traficantes de Sueños (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, I am writing because the Traficantes de Sueños article, I have some references and I have added two more that could be reliable to confirm what I am talking about, but the question is, because it is an Spanish project, it is quite difficult to find references in English so, are Spanish references ok? And if not, any recommendations on how to find reliable references?

Thank you.

Carlos

GrupoELP01 (talk) 07:51, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

@GrupoELP01: Yes, Carlos, you can use non-English sources. -- Sam ^Sing! 11:59, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

07:54:04, 23 February 2015 review of submission by Zamdone

Zamdone (talk · contribs)
- User:Zamdone/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Zamdone (talk) 07:54, 23 February 2015 (UTC) sir actuly this is different city the city which is saved is tehsil of shahpur area and shahpur city is a previous place and ″shahpur sadar″ which is already saved is tehsil and is new place which is 5 kilo miter away from ″shahpur city″

@Zamdone: OK, just make sure you include a latitude and longitude, and references in your draft, so we can check it. And avoid writing your signature in the draft. -- Sam ^Sing! 11:59, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

10:18:09, 23 February 2015 review of submission by Reethulingam

Reethulingam (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Congruent Solutions, Inc. (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Reethulingam (talk) 10:18, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello Sam Sailor,

As per the review i have added some reference links. Kindly let me know whether these links are considered as notables ones or not. If not, give me some samples to understand appropriate links. Guide me to get this article approved by Wikipedia team.

Thank You. Reethulingam (talk) 10:18, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

@Reethulingam: Please read the comments by the previous reviewers. Draft:Congruent Solutions, Inc. looks like something copy-pasted from a directory listing, and the sources do not indicate notability. Click on the links in the pink boxes to get more information on policies. -- Sam ^Sing! 11:59, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

13:22:28, 23 February 2015 review of submission by Sharath Rajagopalan

Sharath Rajagopalan (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Sharath Rajagopalan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Sharath Rajagopalan is a freelance photographer and Cinematographer for short films. In his native place, all people know him. He is legend in Photography. With his photography and cinematography students admired him and joined his studio to learn from him. So I request you to Accept this article or please tell me how to improve this article. Also what are the thing need to be change??

Sharath Rajagopalan (talk) 13:22, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

@Sharath Rajagopalan: If he is - or may I assume that you are writing about yourself: you are - a known and admired legend, then it ought to be easy to add sources to the article that support these statements. -- Sam ^Sing! 13:55, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

13:55:26, 23 February 2015 review of submission by Connikenzie

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- Draft:Burt Blackarach aka Amani K Smith (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Connikenzie (talk) 13:55, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

I don't want this to be refused again.

Can you bullet point what you need me to do because I don't understand?

Many thanks, Consuela

There is only one thing you need to do at this point, and that is to find sources and add them to the draft as references. Please read the remarks in the pink submission declined box and follow the hyper-links to read the relevant policies and guidelines and any tips given. -- Sam ^Sing! 14:29, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

: Retroscreen Virology Group Plc

Hi Sam, thanks for taking the time to review the Retroscreen Virology Group Plc entry - as per your message this has now been written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article and from a neutral point of view. Any peacock terms have been removed and any sections that do not refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources have also been deleted from the entry. Please let me know if this anything else you would like adding to the entry. Here is the draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Retroscreen_Virology_Group_plc Kind regards "TwickenhamMan 23.02.15 16.49" — Preceding unsigned comment added by TwickenhamMan (talk • contribs) 16:48, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Comment on new Vincent Massey (1926-2002) page

Hi Sam,

I am aware that another Vincent Massey page already exists, but the one I created for review is a different person. Is there a way I could distinguish them in the page names? Or how would I create a disambiguation page? This page was part of a project for one of my graduate school classes, so it would be really awesome if I was able to make this a "live" page.

Thanks, Christine UMcrc14 (talk) 14:21, 23 February 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by UMcrc14 (talk • contribs) 14:14, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

@UMcrc14: Hi Christine. VM is now in mainspace, have a look: Vincent Massey (enzymologist). There's a hatnote in both VM articles, and Vincent Massey is a dab page now. I added a couple of sources to VMe, did a little copy-editing, and cut out two sentences that to me seemed a bit too private. Let me know what you think. -- Sam ^Sing! 15:52, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Sam, it looks great! Thank you so much! Christine UMcrc14 (talk) 16:59, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

@UMcrc14, Christine:, you're so welcome. What do you want to edit next? Can I suggest you join a project here on Wikipedia? Let me know, if you need anything. -- Sam ^Sing! 17:24, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

My group project was also working on updating the flavin adenine dinucleotide page. We are still making finishing edits, but are hoping to get our edits transferred from my sandbox to the site within the next week. Thank for all your help. UMcrc14 (talk) 18:05, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

The usage of proper citations and references

Hi Sam, my name is Clone019 and I am a relatively new Wikipedia user or editor. Recently you reviewed an article I submitted and had it declined because it did not meet the requirements for the references showing notability. My question is, I am writing an article about a book by an author, how would I find and use references or citations for an article about a non-fiction book? I've read the book many times, and am simply creating an article about it with a synopsis and author information. I am at a complete loss as to what to do, to be honest, I don't even know how to start. Who would I reference? What would I cite? Clone019 (talk) 17:11, 23 February 2015 (UTC) Clone019

Hi Clone019. Please read the remarks in the pink submission declined box and follow the hyper-links to read the relevant policies and guidelines and any tips given. -- Sam ^Sing! 17:16, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

I have read the remarks and the hyperlinks concerning the relevant policies and guidelines. I still am at a loss as to what to do, I heard in chat that newspaper articles would be good sources. Is all that I need are articles that mention the book I have written about? Clone019 (talk) 17:37, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Basically yes.

Look at the citation I added. -- Sam ^Sing! 17:39, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much Sam, I appreciate all the help. I am editing the article as we speak, hoping to get it right this time. Thanks again! Clone019 (talk) 18:09, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

@Clone019: (Here was the right one!) Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels - did you have a look for inspiration? -- Sam ^Sing! 18:18, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Vincent Massey

I've made a request for your moving of the article Vincent Massey to be undone. If you contest the restoration of the article to its original place, please say so, so that the request can get moved to the "Contested technical requests" section. --Ħ MIESIANIACAL 18:40, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Answered there, I have no objections. -- Sam ^Sing! 18:49, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

The Ilyn Nathaniel article page denial

Im kind of new to this writing articles actually really new to this thing. This was my first one. So im really confused? What is it exactly that i need to change or add ? Ive seen several artists that have less written about them. i know his band even has a wikipedia page. So im just confused as to what it is i did wrong. Like i said im new to this so any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Sleepstonight (talk) 21:14, 23 February 2015 (UTC) sleepstonight Feb 23 2015

We are talking about Draft:Ilyn Nathaniel, a musician from the band Soulidium. Soulidium released an album in 2007, and their second album, Fly 2 the Sun was scheduled for release four years later in 2011. AFAICT it never came out and G*D knows what happened with them as a band. It is no wonder that there are only few sources on Ilyn Nathaniel available. I get 2330 Google hits. I can't find anything that would count towards notability outside of the band. -- Sam ^Sing! 22:20, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

21:20:47, 23 February 2015 review of submission by PulitzerPrize2017

PulitzerPrize2017 (talk · contribs)
- User:PulitzerPrize2017/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

PulitzerPrize2017 (talk) 21:20, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Sam Sailor Yes, I am new to Wikipedia- Recent post on songwriter Yvonne Lowrene Wright has been declined. This writer's is given credit on every song that she as written with Stevie Wonder. Wright's writing is significant information to music historian's due to her association writing with Stevie Wonder. Most of the songs she has written have their own Wikipedia page. Please advise how I can correct this situation. Thank you

You can add references to the draft. Please read the remarks in the pink submission declined box and follow the hyper-links to read the relevant policies and guidelines and any tips given. -- Sam ^Sing! 22:23, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Media File Nominated for Deletion

Hi Sam Sailor, I recently uploaded an image for a wiki draft. I received the image file directly from the author (It is for a film page) with their permission. The image file is the poster art for the film. After doing so successfully, I received this email message: "The media file has been nominated for deletion." I checked out why (need to get written permission from the author via the wiki permission template). I have filled in the permission template as required. One thing. It states that the permission template must be emailed from an email address that is recognized by wikipedia. My question is: Can I email it from my account as the author is not registered with wikipedia? Thanking you in advance. nairbotanim Feb 23, 2015Nairbotanim (talk) 21:23, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Ugh, you got me there, I have spend so little time on Commons, that I have no clue. Copy your question above. Jump over to Commons. Find the helpdesk. Post the question there. (If everything fails, you could upload a poster in a smaller resolution here on English Wikipedia under a fair use license.) Take care, -- Sam ^Sing! 22:33, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Need Assistance.

Thank you for your encouragement. My father-in-law, former Petty Officer First Class Roland N. ("Nick") Stine, Jr. served on the USS PC-552 during the whole time it was in the war. He is 92, now. This is why this entry is important to me and I wish to get it right. One question I have is whether I may use his information, even though I don't have a secondary support source.

Having said that, I am finding the Wikipedia interface a mystery. Any help you may provide would be appreciated. For example, I wish to edit the citations, yet I have no means to open them. When I click on the blue citation numbers, nothing happens. Also, what is this about the <ref>? This is obviously not Microsoft Word.

Thank you,

Dave — Preceding unsigned comment added by Argonauthistorian6 (talk • contribs) 14:19, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Please sign your posts on talk pages per Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. Thanks!

@Argonauthistorian6: Hi Dave. I am sure you can get a great article out it. Everything we write here needs to be verifiable using a published, reliable source. You can not imagine the amount of crap people try to publish here: promotional company pages copy-pasted from their websites, miserable autobiographies from wannabe musicians who released their first song on Youtube yesterday, etc. etc. Policies are meant keep the editorial flush-gates under control. Unless your father-in-law's testimony somehow was published, say as a memoir or as part of a book, you can, in principal, not use anything from him in the article. But there is a big difference between a lousy five-line autobio on a 17-year old singer-songwriter, record producer, entrepreneur and philantropist who has 107 views of his one song "released to critical acclaim on Youtube" and a decent article on a warship like the one you are starting. Did you dig up all books that might talk about the vessel? Old newspaper articles on microfilm from your library? Is there a wartime maritime museum or archive of some sorts you could dive into? In the end everything you write can be challenged and has to verifiable. Could your f-i-l's testimony be used to back up info from the published sources? Use your own good judgement. But in principle: no, his statements can not be used.

As for formatting, let me have a look and try to make a demo edit or two, maybe you'll go "aha, so that's how it's done." Like so many other things the interface and the wiki mark-up here just takes a little practise. Use the WP:TEAHOUSE and the WP:HELPDESK if you can't figure out something, always nice people there. -- Sam ^Sing! 16:28, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Now moved to Draft:USS PC-552. Have a look at what I did. It dawns on me that you should absolutely go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Ships, sign-up at Wikipedia:WikiProject Ships/Participants, and ask questions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ships. There'll be editors over there who can help you much better than I with this specific article. (Not that you're not welcome, naturally!) Happy editing! -- Sam ^Sing! 17:12, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

So that is what happened! I noticed the changes and I like them; I just didn't know how they happened. Thank you for doing that. I will proceed with the WikiProject Ship people and I am committed to make this article compliant and to maintain and add to it in the future. In the meantime, can you tell me how to edit a reference?

May I continue to work with you to get this article accepted?

Incidentally, I wrote this from original sources without discussing this with my father-in-law. To my positive surprise, my wife told me she had heard these stories from her father. This makes us feel very confident about what he says. Everything he has said has turned out to be proven true.

Argonauthistorian6 (talk) 17:38, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

For referencing start with Help:Referencing for beginners. If it drives you nuts, just ask. Yeah, your always welcome, but the ship-specific questions are much better handled over at WT:SHIPS. Despite my nome de guerre I don't dabble much in the maritime departments here.

-- Sam ^Sing! 18:01, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I see my article was resubmitted. Did you do that or did I do that in my ignorance of how the system works. If you did that, thank you as I will continue to improve it anyway and it will be fine. If I did that, my regrets; I meant no disrespect.

Argonauthistorian6 (talk) 19:35, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

@Argonauthistorian6: Didn't touch it, but it's in mainspace now, so that's history. Talking about history, did you notice the tab at the top, where you can see all edits that have been done to an article? And you can compare edits and see the exact changes. -- Sam ^Sing! 11:20, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Regarding autobio in Draft:David Robert Daniel

What to you need to know exactly.... You can verify some of my story with some of the people that I worked with I guess. Such as Martin Cilia... By all means contact him directly.... He played all of the guitar on my Honky-Tonk Through the Night EP and also gave my one of his own songs called 'Skating On Thin Ice' which he wrote with Dave Warner with whom he mentions having an association with on his wikipedia page. We were also trying to work on another song together called Tamworth Calling but we never finished the idea. Chris Bailey played bass guitar on the same EP but unfortunately, he has now passed away and can't verify my story.

I also won a radio contest to sing with Jon Stevens (Now lead singer of the Dead Daisies) in Perth in 2006-2007 but whether Jon Stevens is able to remember that night is something that I don't know.

Most of this stuff happened before the internet was even popular so finding out or citing information relevant to these events is near on impossible.

I can guarantee that all of this is real and my musical career is still happening with Questions? being readied for release on iTunes worldwide within the next two weeks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davedanmusic (talk • contribs) 17:24, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

The burden of proving notability lies with you by adding reliable sources as references. Wikipedia strongly discourage that you write about yourself. -- Sam ^Sing! 17:38, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Stats

   [Song Plays] Song Plays 1,726
   [Video Plays] Video Plays 195
   [Total Fans] Total Fans 5,942
   [ReverbNation Fans] ReverbNation Fans 143
   [Facebook Likes] Facebook Likes 5,727
   [Twitter Followers] Twitter Followers 7
   [YouTube Subscribers] YouTube Subscribers 4
   [Mobile App Users] Mobile App Users 3
   [Widget Impressions] Widget Impressions 1,209

These are the stats on my ReverbNation page for your information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davedanmusic (talk • contribs) 17:40, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Kargan vs. Karkan

Thread retitled from "February 2015".

Hello, I'm Karkan.ir . removed some content from Kargan, Gilan insert Karkan Anzali orginal page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karkan.ir (talk • contribs) 17:27, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

@Karkan.ir: OK. Please help me understand what is going on. Why do you think Kargan, Gilan should instead be named Karkan Anzali? -- Sam ^Sing! 17:36, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

OK. Please see website karkan I am living in the village Karkan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karkan.ir (talk • contribs) 17:43, 23 February 2015‎

Please sign your posts on talk pages per Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. Thanks!

@Karkan.ir: The website is irrelevant to my question: Why do you think Kargan, Gilan should instead be named Karkan Anzali? -- Sam ^Sing! 17:55, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

I am living in this village Karkan Anzali The original name of the village is Karkan Me, my father and my grandfather was born in this village have Karkan village in the town of Bandar Anzali Guilan Please see the Google Map Place village karkan anzali

That is fine, and I hope you are well there, but it is also irrelevant to my question: Why do you think Kargan, Gilan should instead be named Karkan Anzali? Please answer now. Thanks, -- Sam ^Sing! 18:23, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

How do I help my village name Karkan correct? I say that Google is correct Karkan village. I live in this village. The correct name of my village is Karkan . I made my own village Page . I'm fascinated by my village . I'm going to introduce people to the village Karkan .You're people of which country? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karkan.ir (talk • contribs) 18:37, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Please sign your posts on talk pages per Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. Thanks!

Would you please be so kind as to sign your posts by the instructions given in the link in the line preceding this?

If I understand you correctly, it is a matter of transliteration: you want to romanize كرکان‎ to Karkan instead of Kargan. Such things we do by moving a page to the new title. We do not create a new article with another title. But the next and still unanswered question is: why do you title it Karkan Anzali? If anything it should be titled Karkan, Anzali but only if there is a need for disambiguation because there is more than one Karkan/Kargan in the province of Gilan. Could you please explain? -- Sam ^Sing! 19:26, 23 February 2015 (UTC) @Carlossuarez46:, this discussion may be relevant for you as creator of Kargan, Gilan

The Iranian source (the census report) has Kargan (كرگان‎) not Karkan (كرکان‎) - note that K & G both look and sound similarly. The Persian wikipedia has Karkan, but was originally Kargan (see [[5]]) and somewhere along the line it changed titles. If the editor has a reliable source showing that the name is indeed Karkan he or she may move it to that name; saying you live there and know what the place is now called is WP:OR. It may also be that the official name and pronunciation diverge (we don't put New York at New Yawk because some locals call it that way). If the name can be shown to be Karkan, then the article should be moved to Karkan, Gilan, as there is no other Karkan in Gilan province and disambiguating further is not justified. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:39, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for replying, Carlossuarez46. Can we have your comments, Karkan.ir? -- Sam ^Sing! 11:08, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Gilan Karkan there is only one correct pronunciation is Karkan کرکان Im no speaking english Im speaking persian

Is there a reliable non-WP source for the name or spelling change? Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:15, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Eric Uglum: Rewrite # 3

Hi Sam,

Thanks for reviewing my article submission on Eric Uglum. My goal is to be a good Wikipedia contributor and I feel that I'm learning more with each rewrite. I know you're aware that it's a learning process and can be overwhelming at times and is indeed a process. Having said that, I was wondering if you can perhaps direct me in my rewrite. I'm not sure I understand what steps to take. As far as I can tell I have removed the peacock terms. The other potential problem I see is that each band is in it's own split section. Is that a problem too? What am I missing?

Someone suggested that naming all of the bands he was in was a problem, but to me it's all a culmination of a career that makes him a mainstay in his genre.

If I understand what to do I'll fix it asap. I just would prefer not to labor under a misunderstanding and have to rewrite yet again.

Thanks for your time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Eric_Uglum

MzViolet84 (talk) 21:03, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Violet. Are you aware of the History tab where you can see all edits to a page? Have a look. ... I think you should drop the level 3 heading for the individual gigs; they stop the flow. Try and see if you could get a better flow by making, say, 3 level 3 headings with som year spans like (made-up) 1914-18, 1919-25, 1926-1930. Everything can be undone if you want to revert to a previous version. Does this help? -- Sam ^Sing! 21:27, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

That does help!! Thank you so much. I'm going to work on it right now.

MzViolet84 (talk) 22:18, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Ok, I restructured the article. Let me know if you see anything else! MzViolet84 (talk) 23:02, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Message from DShamen

Apologies, I submitted my article before I'd actually finished editing it - and missing a number of links to boot. Bit new this creating an article malarkey! — Preceding unsigned comment added by DShamen (talk • contribs) 01:39, 23 February 2015‎

@DShamen: No problem, mate. -- Sam ^Sing! 11:59, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Was going to ask if you could assist me with the article that I created actually... not entirely sure if it's up to scratch, and I'm not entirely convinced that the name is really acceptable or not. If you're up on your football rivalries then I will explain what I mean, if not then no problem. Cheers.

@DShamen: I actually went searching for sources the other day, although football isn't my turf so to speak, but from the mere 132 Goggle hits I got the impression that "A62 Derby" maybe just is a colloquial term ... or what? I'm not the right guy to ask. You should go join Wikipedia:WikiProject Football, and get some input from other Footy editors by posting at WT:FOOTY. Cheers, -- Sam ^Sing! 11:33, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

You may have a point actually... the term 'A62 derby' refers to a fixture between two of Huddersfield Town, Leeds United and Oldham Athletic. I thought of using the term 'Roses Derby' or 'War of the Roses' but that is also used for various clubs close to the border Lancashire / Yorkshire boundaries, not just Huddersfield and Oldham - Manchester United and Leeds United being a prime example. Maybe just putting 'Huddersfield-Oldham rivalry' in the same way that a number of others have been on the 'Local derbies in the United Kingdom' category would suffice (for instance, 'Leeds-Manchester United', 'Bolton-Wigan')? Having checked thoroughly, the 'Roses Derby' term clearly gets a lot more hits though than calling it the A62 Derby, although the latter is in fairly common usage... for instance it has been referred to as such by Jeff Stelling on the Saturday football show. It is though most definitely a notable local rivalry in English football, and has been particularly since the 1980s.

@DShamen: Shamen, friend, the bar here is closed, you need to join the team over at WT:FOOTY ... they will welcome you warmly, especially if you remember to sign your talk page posts with four tildes (~~~~)

Best, -- Sam ^Sing! 01:36, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Closure of Nawabpur Road AFD

Hi Sam, I'd like to query with you your closure of the AFD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nawabpur Road. There were two comments in favour of keping the article, but neither were steeped in policy; the first was "it's the busiest" and the second was essentially "it's got a lot of history". Am I missing something? AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 01:38, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes, and you were: WP:BEFORE. -- Sam ^Sing! 01:42, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Sam, thanks for your feedback! Hopefully, my edits today will enable my page to be created. Jdmassist (talk) 18:08, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

18:39:01, 25 February 2015 review of submission by BluePlate55

BluePlate55 (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Digital Folklore Project (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello! I'm hoping to get some more specific feedback on how to make the Digital Folklore Project page acceptable for creation. It's a project run from a land grant, Research 1 institution (Utah State University), and it involves scholars from all over the US (including the Library of Congress). While we've only had one year of announcing the #DigitalTrendOfTheYear so far, we're already at work on the second year, and we'd like to get an official Wikipedia page up and running so that it can grow with the project. Our initial round of press releases got us some nice national media attention, especially with our runner up of #NotYourMascot (which has its own Wikipedia page). I've added in more citations, but I'm new to the WP thing and I'm not sure what additional information will help. Thanks!

BluePlate55 (talk) 18:39, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

21:35:57, 25 February 2015 review of submission by Lundianer

Lundianer (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Martin Scholten (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello, the artist described in the draft has an upcoming exhibit in an art society in Northern Germany (reference added) I would think this alone as well as the fact that he has been awarded an art prize from the city of Hamburg establish notability. Also, an article about him has been published on the German Wikipedia, and the English one leans heavily on the German one. Thanks for reconsidering the review, and best regards, JensLundianer (talk) 21:35, 25 February 2015 (UTC) Lundianer (talk) 21:35, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Message from Operosa

Hello,

I'm writing you concerning one article in Wikipedia that has been declined couple of times. I'm a fan of the opera, leaving in Bulgaria and I've visited many events that Operosa has organized in the Balkan area. I asked them why don't the create a page in Wikipedia and they send me the link with the page they are trying to create but has been declined several times. I offered to help. I have lot's of spear time but I'm not very familiar how exactly to make a Wikipedia page. So I've decided to ask you for help if you have time to explain and give your suggestions.

yesterday while I was editing I received that : Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "Operosa", may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because it appears to represent an organization rather than an individual. Please read WP:CORPNAME. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username, or you may simply create a new account for editing. Thank you. --David Biddulph (talk) 04:47, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

I made a new user name, but actually the name that should be for the article is Operosa which is a company.

So I'm very confused and I would need some help, please.

Thank you in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Operosa (talk • contribs) 14:15, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

@Operosa: Choosing the user name Operosa and creating Draft:Operosa will to most imply shared use, which is why David Biddulph send you a message on your talk page, and you need to reply. I notice that User:Operosa Opera Festival was created a few days ago. So that is not you? I am asking because you created your account in 2013, created Draft:Operosa on 15 April 2014, and now User:Operosa Opera Festival created a sandbox which I moved to Draft:Operosa Opera Festival. But this does not match that you say that "they send me the link with the page they are trying to create". In regards to the drafts I think the way forward is to keep working on the oldest, that is Draft:Operosa. Draft:Operosa Opera Festival is almost identical, anyway. What the final article title should be can be decided later. And you should blank your userpage per WP:FAKEARTICLE. I hope this helps. -- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 01:37, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

"Tower Block Rock"

Hello there! I'm not upset about the rejection, but maybe you could help with just one thing. Is http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/rockerilla.htm reliable at all? This is probably the only other thing I can find in regards to this song. If not, oh well. Some places like the BBC simply did a poor job at maintaining their archives from the past, so it's not your fault. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.15.69.36 (talk) 19:50, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

@73.15.69.36: I don't believe it meets WP:NALBUMS. Well, it does not meet WP:NALBUMS. It is unusual to create an article on a recording, when an article on the band does not already exist. -- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 02:13, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

12:06, 23 February 2015 Submission declined on 22 February 2015 by Sam Sailor

Declination of submission of article on the 'Historical Archives of the EU'

Thank you for taking care of the page and examining the draft.
Of course, we really do not understand your decision since we added so much sources as we presetnly have at dispostion. We would Of course complete them and add them any time we find something additional. We really think that our sources are independent and reliable as they come from national and important newspapers. The inauguration of our institution by the President of the Italian Repubblic is thus documentated in a reliable way. The juridical basis of our instituion is a decision by "The European Commission" that we linked to the page. Do you think that we should take the information on the Historical Archives of the EU out of the page of the European University Institute? --RArchiv (talk) 11:05, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

@RArchiv: It is a common misunderstanding to think, that because something exist and is important to the person writing about it, then it should be important to the rest of the world, and Wikipedia should be used as a platform to let the world know. However, "Wikipedia articles cover notable topics—those that have gained sufficiently significant attention by the world at large and over a period of time, and are not outside the scope of Wikipedia." And while Wikipedia:Notability-criteria covers subjects, it is not applied to article content (see WP:NNC), hence no need to remove the mention of Historical Archives from European University Institute. But Historical Archives of the European Union are notable, senza dubio. Your focus should be to find reliable, secondary sources to add as references to the article. And it is not as difficult as it may sound. From a Google search using "Historical Archives" "European University Institute" I promptly found

Claire Shaw. "Library futures: European University Institute, Italy". The Guardian. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help)

And since the Archives are located in bella Italia and the Italian president inaugurated the institution, there's got to be common sources like Italian newspapers who have written about the Archives. Ma io sono un straniero stupido, scusate mi, non so proprio le parole che valono nel un Google ricercario ;) so I will leave it to you to dig up a few sources, vabbene? You are welcome to post the URLs here, and I will con piacere assist you in formatting them and putting them in the draft. Ci parliamo, -- Sam ^Sing! 11:59, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

-- Buongiorno Sam Sailor, grazie tante, thank you so much for the usefull hints and indications you gave us. Indeed, we found some more sources and references and comptetes the page. We had some doubts about the link *Kinzelbach, Katrin (2014). The EU's Human Rights Dialogue with China: Quiet Diplomacy and Its Limits. Routledge. ISBN 978-0-415-69846-7. Do you think it is appropriate and useful in our article? The Historical Archives of EU are cited very often in this book as a primary source so we thought it to be useful.
Could you please tell us if we have to resubmit our draft now or can you just approuve it right now? Grazie mille e tanti saluti dall'Italia
--RArchiv (talk) 07:48, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Have a read on WP:MOS. For one thing the draft needs a WP:LEAD. Grazie -- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 09:46, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

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17:27:08, 26 February 2015 review of submission by Ramakrishna Mayya

Ramakrishna Mayya (talk · contribs)
- Draft:List of Kannada Songs sung by Sonu Nigam (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Ramakrishna Mayya (talk) 17:27, 26 February 2015 (UTC) Thank for your comment Sam. I created the page to get the experience of creating a new wiki page. As per your suggestion, I have included this list in the 'Sonu Nigam Discography'. Thank you.

Request for your advice / assistance_User: 95.67.102.245 / User:Tanechka72

Dear Sam,

Thanks a lot for acceptance of my submission of the article Tigran Maytesian that I have created as an unregistered User 95.67.102.245 (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:95.67.102.245). By that time I had no registered account and my ip address was used to identify me as a contributor to Wikipedia. Now I have registered my account in Wikipedia under the Tanechka 72 User name to make it possible to further contribute to Wikipedia and improve the article.

To improve the article I need to upload an image of the person (Tigran Maytesian) which is a copyrighted image for which I have permission (Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported license and the GNU Free Documentation License, OTRS ticket number 2015020610023567). To upload this file (copyrighted image) to Wikipedia my account needs to become confirmed automatically. In the Wikipedia: File Upload Wizard (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:File_Upload_Wizard&?withJS=MediaWiki:FileUploadWizard.js) it goes that "your account will become confirmed automatically once you have made 10 edits and four days have passed since you created it".

I have already made a lot (over 10) of edits regarding my contributed article as a User:95.67.102.245 and by now I need to add an image, no other 10 edits are envisaged so far. My request for manual confirmation of my account Tanechka72 was declined by the Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Confirmed administrator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Confirmed#Confirmation_of_registration_for_account_Tanechka72). He/she also neglected my inquiry for his/her advice how to merge my contributions and activities as a User 95.67.102.245 with my new account Tanechka 72. So now I have no opportunity to proceed with uploading the image to improve the article.

Please, let me know how to merge my contributions and activities as a User 95.67.102.245 with my new account Tanechka 72, to have my track record in my contribution list with the history of edits, so I could proceed with uploading images to the article using the Upload Wizard.

Thank you in advance for your assistance and support.

Best wishes, Tanechka72 (talk) 18:30, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

@Tanechka72: But as far as I can tell you should upload that image to Commons. -- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 18:41, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Request on 15:10:07, 20 February 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by GVndl

GVndl (talk · contribs)
- User:GVndl (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Sam,

thank you for your comment on Silvio Wolf's draft. May I ask you some clarifications? The fact is that I used many essays by different authors published mainly in On the Threshold. Thus, I have not used only one source written by the subject but I quoted it to simplify - I see that this may be misunderstood. Thus, would it be enough to quote each author - published in the same catalogue - instead of just the catalogue (On the Threshold)?

Thanks a lot!

GVndl (talk) 15:10, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

@GVndl: Hi GVndl. I have misunderstood "Silvio Wolf, On the Threshold, Milan: Silvana Editoriale, 2011". I thought it was a book by Wolf. It a catalogue, da vero? There's no doubt about subjects notability, we just have to find a handful of good sources (=references) to add to the article. I added a {{cite book}} to the WP:LEAD. (It could maybe fit better further down, but that's another, minor thing.) Couldn't you find some sources like, e.g. this one:

"Review: 'The Edge of Vision' at Lewis & Clark College tracks the many looks of photographic abstraction". OregonLive.com. Retrieved 20 February 2015.

and then we could add them? You are welcome to post them here, telling me where in the article they would fit, and then I will take care of the technicalities. Best, -- Sam ^Sing! 15:26, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Sam,

thank you for your reply! Yes, exactly, it's a catalogue! I'm actually editing the footnotes with the authors. Unfortunately I can't find any link like the one you posted me.. would that be ok anyway? I already posted some in external links. I can keep on researching though.

Also, I think the texts quoted may appear on the artist's personal website, but as you may note, there is only one link for all of them - shall I put it in each footnote anyway?

Thanks a lot! GVndl78.145.18.124 (talk) 00:21, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Pierre Anctil

I added some references to the draft, I'll try to add some more very soon. 173.176.82.60 (talk) 17:01, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

New references added, I will resubmit. 173.176.82.60 (talk) 03:22, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

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Clint Maedgen Submission

Hello, My name is Michael, I work for a management company that represents The New Orleans Bingo Show, and Clint Maedgen, the bandleader of that band and of The Preservation Jazz Band. My submission for Clint Maedgen was rejected, could you provide a bit more feedback? The facts can all be sourced.

Thanks

MBM — Preceding unsigned comment added by Themannamedbones (talk • contribs) 23:02, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Please sign your posts on talk pages per Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. Thanks!

@Themannamedbones: Draft:Clint Maedgen has been speedy deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement of http://www.kennedy-center.org/explorer/artists/?entity_id=82264&source_type=B -- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 06:48, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Request on 00:58:35, 27 February 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Robin shans

Robin shans (talk · contribs)
- User:Robin shans (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I made some corrections to my article but i'm not seeing where to resubmit. Please help. Robin shans (talk) 00:58, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Robin, you have been drafting on your own user page. No worries. I copied that to Draft:Börje Holmberg and made minor changes to layout, have a look. I will courtesy-blank your user page for you. Let me know if you need anything. -- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 07:03, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

01:04:15, 27 February 2015 review of submission by Michael.C.Wright

Michael.C.Wright (talk · contribs)
- Draft:S795 coffee (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Sam,

Thank you for reviewing my article Draft:S795 coffee. Can you tell me which statements need stronger references?

I have clarified one statement in the article to make it more clear that there is speculation on the exact origin of S-795. The most important aspect of S-795, however, is it's resistance to the rust disease, which is well known and documented (and hopefully reflected in my references). The unfortunate fact is that there isn't a lot of readily accessible information on this variety (as is the case with many coffee breeds) but this article's existence can act as a starting point for that. People who know more can obviously add their knowledge to the article without having to know how to start a new article from scratch (of which I now understand the difficulty).

I work directly with coffee farmers in Indonesia who grow this breed and even they don't have a lot of information on it.

Thanks again for your help and patience (as this is obviously my first wiki article).

Michael.C.Wright (talk) 01:04, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

@Michael.C.Wright: Hi Michael, and welcome. It's a common misconception that Wikipedia can be used to "spread the word" about things where there isn't a lot of readily accessible information. That's a problem when it comes to articles on companies, wannabe bands, products, etc. In all honesty it's probably less of a problem if any problem at all when it comes to a relative obscurity as a coffee strain. But the first question in my head is: is this notable for a standalone article or wouldn't it be better as part of Coffea arabica where we have a section called /Strains/? I could be wrong, so I've asked at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Food and drink for comments on your draft. Wouldn't you like to be part of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink? Looking at your blog http://blog.oilslickcoffee.com/ which hopefully is licensed under Creative Commons, you're a wealth of coffee information. Let me know if you need anything. A mug of java?

-- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 07:35, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

@Sam Sailor:, all good info. I took a look at the project group and joined it. This will help me get my wiki-feet under me, so to speak. ;)

Regarding S-795 being notable enough for its own page; I'd say yes, if not for the fact that it is one of the first rust-resistant lines, then because it is widely planted in Indonesia and is one of their higher-quality breeds. These are things I know anecdotally and have read on other sites as well, but will need to dig further for credible references before I add that to the page.

Coincidentally, one of the action items in the project group is to clean up the List of coffee varieties page. It was that page that made me assume the goal was to have a page for each variety.

Looking at the /Strains/ section of Coffea arabica (which itself needs work, it looks like), I don't see how it will be useful to talk about all of the varieties/strains there. When you look at the List of coffee varieties, you can see it's a large list and will possibly make Coffea arabica unwieldy. But I could be wrong and would definitely benefit from working with someone who has a clear vision of what that page should look like.

Thanks again for the help and for your patience and hand-holding! I'm excited to be a part of the project!

Michael.C.Wright (talk) 08:45, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Joseph Tabbi

Dear Sam, Thanks for reviewing my Joseph Tabbi submission. I supplied inline references for quotations etc., but most of the information came from Tabbi's professional CV, which he shared with me. I don't know how to reference that, or what particular sentences you felt needed to be footnoted. Steven Moore 27 Feb. 2015 4:57 AM — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smoore3 (talk • contribs) 09:58, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

@Smoore3: Steven, then we potentially have a problem because articles should be based on reliable, secondary sources foremost. Please follow and read the links in the pink box in the draft to get some guidance. -- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 10:10, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

10:15:53, 27 February 2015 review of submission by Vaibhav1446

Vaibhav1446 (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Printvenue (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

My article was rejected on the following grounds: "This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms, that are designed to promote or show-off the subject." I wrote the article with an unbiased view projecting only the facts and information about a certain organization with the help of reliable sources, most of which are different journalism channels. I would like if you will re-review the article from the neutral point of view as well, but I will feel wonderful if you can tell me which of my sources are unreliable or where my tone is not formal, especially where the peacock terms are used. This is my first article, it may have some faults but it would be wonderful if you can be specific about where and what is wrong with the article. Vaibhav1446 (talk) 10:15, 27 February 2015 (UTC) Vaibhav1446 (talk) 10:15, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

@Vaibhav1446: "world’s leading" ... "Printvenue combines top academic and business talents with industry experts" ... "Printvenue.com is the leading professional company in this sector." Drop it. Otherwise it both has to be sourced and attributed. ... Drop the the /Products/ section in its entirety. Wikipedia is not a venue where trivial products should be listed, and these are indeed trivial. ... Prose the /Rewards and recognition/ section. Does this help? -- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 10:25, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

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I saw your report at WP:UAA which rang a bell. The user looks like a sock of User:Mah.shamim who has also used the account User:Tbt it. I've made a note on your report as well as raising an SPI. Thought I should let you know just in case there's anything you'd like to add to the case. Regards, Bazj (talk) 11:16, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Interesting, thanks Bazj. Best, -- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 11:20, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

I would like some advice on editing the article 'CHI Limited'

Hi Sam,

I am new here and I have read a lot about creating articles on this platform. However, I would like to know what I can do to make the article 'CHI Limited' that was declined by you much better. I am currently editing and I have included the company products' competitors, in addition to references to newspapers etc. Could it be that listing the brands or the page title made it look like an advertisement? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teepro (talk • contribs) 16:49, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

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@Teepro: Spot on. Mentioning products or services in business related articles are naturally not prohibited, but inclusion of long, bulleted lists of products/services in the body as well as featuring them in the WP:LEAD easily leaves an impression of WP:PROMOTION. Notice that our notability guideline for organizations and companies expressly states that "If the products and services are not notable enough for their own article, the discussion of them should be trimmed and summarized into a shorter format, or even cut entirely." For inspiration on writing better articles about companies and organizations read Wikipedia:WikiProject Companies/Guidelines. -- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 13:49, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

19:16:04, 27 February 2015 review of submission by Trancemaester

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- Draft:Assurant Solutions (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

What exactly makes this sound like an advertisement? All information is cited objectively through authoritative sources. The products listed are what's listed on their website. Trancemaester (talk) 19:16, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

@Trancemaester: That's very precisely what they are: listed on their website. And Wikipedia is not a mirror of such info. Mentioning products or services in business related articles are naturally not prohibited, but inclusion of long, bulleted lists of products/services in the body, which often reads as both boring and trivial, as well as featuring them in the WP:LEAD, and here done instead of neutrally describing the subject, easily leaves an impression of WP:PROMOTION. Notice that our notability guideline for organizations and companies expressly states that "If the products and services are not notable enough for their own article, the discussion of them should be trimmed and summarized into a shorter format, or even cut entirely." For inspiration on writing better articles about companies and organizations read Wikipedia:WikiProject Companies/Guidelines. -- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 13:54, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

New, but trying...

Sam: I have rewritten my contribution titled DIP System. I have taken out any commercialization. As this is a unique product, descriptions are correct. As to verification, there are over 1,100 of these systems in use in France alone. It can solve major issues here, in the United States as well as other parts of the world needing to move waste water. Thank you. Regards, Jonm4643 (talk) 17:01, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

@Jonm4643: Draft:DIP System was speedy deleted as G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion. You are of course welcome to rewrite it. Maybe Wikipedia:Your first article can serve as inspiration? -- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 14:01, 28 February 2015 (UTC)