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Osvaldo, I'm excited to see you're so interested in Cuban history, but your continued revisions to the page for this hotel are troubling. You've now twice deleted almost the entire gallery. You've placed historical photos which may still be under copyright on the page. You placed them within the body of the article, making it difficult for mobile users to read the article. Having all the photos at the end in one gallery is much easier for mobile users than having them throughout the article. You added sections, which is fine, but you turned all the sub-sections into individual sections. Some of the names you gave them are not even in English. The photo you added for your "Ley revolucionaria" section is unrelated to the hotel, it's about banks being nationalized. Everyone here is glad to see new members who want to help, but I've been helping to maintain this page for years, I wrote the majority of the text. I want to be sure it stays as clear and accurate and easy to read for an English-speaking audience as possible. jamesluckard (talk) 23:42, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

thank you for the note. I thought the photo gallery (is) excessive, repetitive and uninformative (same with Hotel Nacional de Cuba. I was just following Wki protocol to '(not) use images or galleries excessively.' there is more on my talk page re. photographs because I've been down this road, I used to "load up" galleries with "repetitive" photographs. I can refer you to various pages where the photographs are in the body of the article as Wikipedia advises, so, that is the law. Can you honestly say that an article such as Age of Enlightenment (one among thousands) would be better served with all the photos in a gallery? Further, the argument that we should ALL consider users of a portable device is not a good argument let alone an argument.

As far as the Revolutionary Law, there wasn't a different law (yes, they had different "eyewash" numbers) and an attendant poster for banks, schools, another for factories, hotels, restaurants, residences, sugar mills, and another one for cemeteries. EVERYTHING was nationalized, stolen, at once. In your article "Castro announced in a speech to the Restaurant and Hotel Workers Federation.." well, who exactly was the Restaurant and Hotel Workers Federation? Where do you mention that they were the owners of the hotel?

At any rate, I put a block on the pages this morning (sorry, I thought you were a vandal), I will wait a few days for you to reconsider, However, if you don't do the appropriate research regarding the use of the photographs, I will take the issue up with an administrator. Kind regards.

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ovA_165443 (talk) 01:11, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate that you're trying to help, but titling a section in Spanish, like "Ley revolucionaria", is very confusing for English speakers, and it's also overly specific. It is clearer to have the section be about the Revolution in general. The photo of the sign doesn't make clear how it's in any away related to the hotel. The first paragraph states, with a proper source, that the hotel belonged to the pension fund of the catering workers' union. There is value to including a few photos at key points in extremely long articles, like the one you mentioned, but this is a short article, I can't see how it helps to have photos in the middle of it.jamesluckard (talk) 01:47, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hotel Nacional de Cuba

Osvaldo, I see you've also undone the corrections I made to the Hotel Nacional page. As with the Hotel Habana Libre, please do not delete the gallery. Again, adding sections is perfectly fine, but they need sub-sections, every part of the history cannot be its own section. They also need to be in a logical and chronological order. In addition, you deleted random words throughout, such as the words "historic hotel" in the first sentence. I have restored them. Also, I don't think Wikipedia rules allow the extensive quote you have about the Taganana Hill, or the historical photos, which may be copyrighted. However, if you'll notice, I did not delete the text or photos, because I don't feel it's my place to delete anything another user adds. If someone else nominates it for deletion though, they will probably be within the rules. We all want these pages to be as helpful as possible to general readers. jamesluckard (talk) 23:54, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ditto for the HN, Read above... ovA_165443 (talk) 01:17, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Osvaldo, If you really want to delete the galleries, go ahead. I'm not sure who is helped by deleting them, but I won't fight you on that. But please do not delete text from the articles for no reason, and please leave the organization with sections and sub-sections, in chronological order, it is very confusing otherwise. Thanks, James. jamesluckard (talk) 01:35, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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This file is my own photo. taken from original McKim, Mead, White drawings located at the New York Historical Society Library. ovA_165443 (talk) 15:21, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the note; this is the second time I copy from Wikipedia the other time was in Havana Plan Piloto and wasn't sure how to do it...thanks again! ovA_165443 (talk) 01:45, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I am sorry, where are you seeing this ERROR message?...can't find it. ovA_165443 (talk) 23:58, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Please could you be more specific what you mean? Thanks! ovA_165443 (talk) 18:19, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Ok, sorry...thank you! ovA_165443 (talk) 16:04, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry, sorry trying to get it right...apologies. ovA_165443 (talk) 16:31, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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but "printable version" of FOCSA Building starts with History and does not show the hatnote...Same thing with Barrio de San Lázaro, Havana...help!ovA_165443 (talk) 16:54, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's how it's meant to work: a Wikipedia:Hatnote is mainly just for linking to other articles, like the "other uses" and "dog breed" links at the top of Havana. It's expected that the reader wouldn't want that kind of "did you mean?" navigation actually printed out, if they were making a physical copy of the article.

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I see, was under impression that EVERY article gets a hatnote template...

really just the first words of the body of text. ovA_165443 (talk) 17:11, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Remember that the opening section of an article is meant to be "an introduction to the article and a summary of its most important contents" that "should briefly summarize the most important points covered in an article in such a way that it can stand on its own as a concise version of the article" (MOS:LEAD) - if it's a substantial article, the lead section should be more than just a single sentence. --Lord Belbury (talk) 17:30, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

yes, that helps...I'll go back and fix! ovA_165443 (talk) 18:11, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Arquitectura Moderna

Hola Osvaldo, mi nombre es Joe y soy estudiante de arquitectura. Desde hace varios meses estoy estudiando la obra de Mario Romañach, a tal punto que he decidido colaborar en su perfil de wikipedia y corregir algunos errores y aportar más contenido. He visto que colabora bastante con wikipedia y ha escrito, entre otras cosas, varios artículos de arquitectura. Quisiera saber, si es posible, si tiene libros, documentos, fotos o cualquier cosa relacionada con el MoMo en Cuba y en particular, la obra de Romañach.

Nunca he usado wikipedia de esta forma, si no puede responder por esta via, le dejo mi email joeabreu1104@gmail.com

Muchas gracias de antemano Osvaldo. Joeabreu (talk) 22:34, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Arquitectura moderna

Hola Osvaldo, mi nombre es Joe y soy estudiante de arquitectura. Desde hace varios meses estoy estudiando la obra de Mario Romañach, a tal punto que he decidido colaborar en su perfil de wikipedia y corregir algunos errores y aportar más contenido. He visto que colabora bastante con wikipedia y ha escrito, entre otras cosas, varios artículos de arquitectura. Quisiera saber, si es posible, si tiene libros, documentos, fotos o cualquier cosa relacionada con el MoMo en Cuba y en particular, la obra de Romañach.

Nunca he usado wikipedia de esta forma, si no puede responder por esta via, le dejo mi email joeabreu1104@gmail.com

Muchas gracias de antemano Osvaldo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joeabreu (talk • contribs) 22:37, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Edit conflict on Havana

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Thank you so much! ovA_165443 (talk) 16:26, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake, now that I see the template! You actually want {{in use}} to warn other editors to step back, {{under construction}} is for longer term editing. --Lord Belbury (talk) 16:33, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I figure that one by myself! Thank you !!! ovA_165443 (talk) 16:35, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Thank you for creating Amphitheatre of Old Havana.

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Thanks for your work and nice work! I marked it as reviewed. On wp:notability I passed it under wp:NPgeo because it does not currently have the the sources to pass wp:gng, as noted by the sources tag already placed on the article by somebody else. Finding and using another sourc or two would solidify it on that front and also make for an even better article. Happy editing!

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Havana Architecture

Thank you for your drawings of the Havana Cathedral and other materials posted. As a first time visitor to Havana this month, I found this fascinating. I've never been to Europe so this is the first original Baroque building I have seen. Has anyone that you know of drawn 3d models of the cathedral?

I'd love to come back to Havana and have an architectural tour, if that were ever available. I'll definitely come back.

Muchas gracias,

Peter — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:645:800:2AC0:8156:6D2:D0E8:6BA1 (talk) 03:08, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I don't know firsthand of any cathedral 3-d studies. I visited Havana in 2017 (grew up in Havana) and unfortunately did not go into the cathedral because it was closed. The seminary around the corner is of similar construction San Carlos and San Ambrosio Seminary. Unfortunately, many of the buildings in Havana are destroyed as is much of the City. I was particularly interested in Plaza del Vapor, Havana, however, the revolutionary government tore it down in 1959 which was a huge loss for Havana. I stayed at the FOCSA Building for ten days which was quite a find and did many of the drawings and diagrams. Also of interest are the Radiocentro CMQ Building by the same architect, and the Edificio del Seguro Médico, Havana by Quintana. At any rate, here's my page of all the articles I have worked on: User:Osvaldo valdes 165443 . ovA_165443 (talk) 16:57, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Hermitage of the Catalans, Havana

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A tag has been placed on Hermitage of the Catalans, Havana requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://www.mundoobrero.es/pl.php?id=11651. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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That page is now blanked and listed here. Osvaldo valdes 165443, could you please explain, here on this page, why you thought it might be acceptable to translate content directly from the Spanish-language source or sources? I warned you about our copyright policy in November last year, and am disappointed to find you're still ignoring it. Please take this as a final warning: if you again copy content from a non-free external source into Wikipedia (whether or not by translation from another language), you may expect to lose your editing privileges in this project without further warning. So ... please don't! Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 09:14, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry, the mistake was publishing the page before a chance to rewrite, you have made your point, well taken, bravo! Wikipedia states, "you may rewrite this page without "copyright-infringing material." I have admitted it, said I am sorry, was my mistake to go against Wikipedia internal policy, and attempted to fix it which I am allowed to do as per internal policy; what further explanations are you looking for? Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources you might read the law on fair use; Wikipedia seems to needlessly have made an outlaw of every editor by taking away their protection of federal law!? However, can you please clarify why you feel Wikipedia, or I, are NOT protected per 17 U.S. Code S. 107 when copying content? And/or can you please explain why you believe "Noncommercial, nonprofit use is (NOT) presumptively fair use"? Please define "content from a non-free external source"? Why such content is exempt from 17 U.S. Code S. 107 and/or "transformation"? Finally, since you threatened me ("you may expect to lose your editing privileges in this project without further warning.), please be so kind to explain to me why you feel that Google is protected when copying entire books, Authors Guild, Inc. v. Google, Inc., but I presumably lose the protection of the exact same Federal law when copying part of an article inside of Wikipedia? ovA_165443 (talk) 14:11, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ignoring the remainder of your post here, which has little bearing on whatever internal rules Wikipedia uses; "fair use" does not apply when you don't indicate that you are quoting another text (directly or in translation) but are presenting text as your own words (even if you add the original as a source through a reference). As for your excuses, admittance of error, "before I had a chance to rewrite"... you seem to ignore that I had to repeatedly explain why it was a copyvio, while you pretended innocence and hid behind "Earwig says 0%", instead of immediately starting with at least admitting that it was a translation you had posted. Your "before I had a chance to rewrite" would perhaps have been believable if you didn't need to scramble yesterday to remove similar copyvios [1] which you had added in January 2022[2]. This makes it clear that this isn't a case of "oh, I inserted these copyvios but was going to remove or rewrite them real soon" but a case of "oops, I'm caught yet again, quick make up some excuses while I hide older problems". I think you would be wise to drop the fake outrage and just commit to follow the rules in the future. Fram (talk) 13:43, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fake outrage, caught? You're back-peddling, obfuscating by "Ignoring the remainder." Isn't it clear it is a translation? "Don't indicate that you are quoting," well, pray tell, how-when did you first find the quoted material, the hidden website? Ingeniously, not answering my questions as if you could, "Ignoring the remainder", continues to violate everyone's federal protection and rights. Since you started this soup, and threatened me, I'll wait for your answer to all my questions. ovA_165443 (talk) 14:44, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please be aware of WP:NLT and that you are rather misinterpreting your "federal protection and rights". This is a private website, if they want to impose a rule that you may be banned if you use the word "and" in a post they are free to do so. And no, it wasn't clear that it was a translation, just like most of your other copyright violations. That's not how sources work, indicating a source doesn't mean that you have simply translated their text. Fram (talk) 14:50, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is the website in English? "it wasn't clear that it was a translation" so now you are lying? "Federal protection and rights" are not diminished by a private website especially one in the U.S. A private website does not permit it to be used as a club. You threatened and insulted me and now you want to hide under a "private website", really? Sure they may impose internal rules, but they cannot violate federal or state law, don't play stupid. At any rate answer the questions. ovA_165443 (talk) 15:17, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have answered all the questions, and have no idea what I supposedly was lying about. Your articles, your text additions, don't make it clear at all that they are translations from other websites. "Threatening" that you may be blocked or banned if you don't follow the rules of this website is perfectly acceptable, no law will protect you from this. See e.g. Cuartel de Milicias, Havana: the section "history" is unsourced, but is a straight translation from here. Fram (talk) 15:42, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You're playing stupid and lying, here are the questions you refused or were unable to answer,

1-What further explanations are you looking for? (refer to text)

2-Wikipedia has needlessly made an outlaw of every editor by blocking the protection of federal law, why?
3-Explain why I can NOT be protected per 17 U.S. Code S. 107 when copying content?

4-Explain why you believe "Noncommercial, nonprofit use is (NOT) presumptively fair use"? (Federal court disagrees)

5-Define what is "content from a non-free external source"?

6-Why is such content exempt by Wikipedia from 17 U.S. Code S. 107?

7-Why is such content as per Fed. law exempt from "transformation"?

8-Since you threatened me ("you may expect to lose your editing privileges in this project without further warning.), explain why Google is protected when copying entire books, Authors Guild, Inc. v. Google, Inc., but I presumably lose all the protection of the exact same Federal law when copying part of an article (inside of Wikipedia)? ovA_165443 (talk) 17:10, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Osvaldo valdes 165443, Fram did not warn you that you would be blocked if you again violated our copyright policy, I did. That warning stands (please see below for another example of exactly what you may not do here).

Another thing you may not do in this project is direct personal remarks at other editors, as you did in your post immediately above this. Please immediately strike those unacceptable remarks (use <s> .... </s> to achieve that). Civility is one of the five pillars of this project; like our copyright policy, it is not negotiable – you either respect it or find something different to do with your time.

Rather than chopping logic over federal law, it would be helpful if you would start to compile, here on this page, a list of all articles where you have translated directly from a non-free Spanish-language source, identifying the source that you took the stuff from in each case.

Fram, thank you for picking up Cuartel de Milicias, Havana, though I think the original source is probably this book from 1993/1995. If you come across any more of the same I'd be grateful if you'd mention it, either here or on my talk. If we find five instances then we're probably going to need (yet another) WP:CCI. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:19, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problem: Cuartel de Milicias, Havana

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Thank you, and please feel welcome to continue contributing to Wikipedia. Happy editing! Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:58, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is no such violation except in Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Please stop repeating "rewrite this article from scratch" ad nauseam, that is the problem. Google is protected when copying entire books, Authors Guild, Inc. v. Google, Inc. but Wikipedia editors presumably lose the protection of the same Federal law!? In its attempt to avoid a lawsuit by creating a policy "developed by the community" it voids and invalidates the protection of 17 US Code § 107 to all editors. Someday we may read: "if you were a Wikipedia editor you are part of the biggest compensation settlement in the history of publishing." ovA_165443 (talk) 15:14, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(restoring this response which may have been deleted in error, by all means delete it again if it was deliberate:) "There is no such violation except in Wikipedia's policies and guidelines." And that's all that's happening here: Wikipedia editors are applying its own policies to its own content, for the sake of itself and the sake of any teacher, writer or historian who wants to reuse its content. Wikipedia content is all CC-Attribution licenced. Somebody writing about the Cuartel de Milicias should be able to safely quote the text of your Wikipedia article, attributing your words to you, without unwittingly infringing the copyright of a Spanish publishing house.

If you can say which articles are based on close translations of copyrighted sources, that would be appreciated. --Lord Belbury (talk) 15:50, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Stop inflating your collective egos. Read the Google case, try reading what I’ve been writing for days it will help you. Show me there’s a violation as per U.S. copyright law when anyone copies and stop listening to yourself. There are no words “attributed to me” that is you and your so called “community” mistake. You cannot sell whatever “you write” along w/ the legal notices should convince you are under a mass delusion that you are any type of expert on any subject let alone any type of author, please! ovA_165443 (talk) 17:51, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think anybody is accusing you of having broken US copyright law, only that you've broken Wikipedia's WP:COPYVIO policy. You're right that Wikipedia could likely host unlimited copyrighted content with impunity if it wanted to, but it doesn't want to, it wants to have its WP:COPYVIO policy, and as such, the copyrighted text you've added will have to be rewritten. Other editors would be happy to work with you on that, if you can list the articles you've worked on that include direct, uncredited translations of Mexican textbooks. --Lord Belbury (talk) 18:30, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

June 2022

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for violating copyright policy by copying text or images into Wikipedia from another source without evidence of permission. Please take this opportunity to ensure that you understand our copyright policy and our policies regarding how to use non-free content.

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I found another translation copyright problem at Arco de Belén, Havana. I have removed your editing privileges because the above conversations indicate that you are not willing to abide to our copyright policy and are not likely to do so without stronger intervention. If multiple editors are telling you that you are violating Wikipedia's editorial policies, it is very likely that you are. The only way to regain your editing privileges is to make an appeal that answers the following questions:

How is Wikipedia licenced?
Why is copyrighted content not allowed on Wikipedia?
Under what circumstances can we use copyrighted content?
How do you intend to avoid violating the copyright policy in the future? MER-C 03:12, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Investigation opened, see Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/20220623. MER-C 07:16, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

answers

How is Wikipedia licenced?

Copyright Act of 1976 as 17 U.S.C. Section 107 / the Berne Convention, international agreement governing copyright.

"Fair uses a doctrine in the United States law that permits limited use of copyrighted material without having to first acquire permission from the copyright holder...The doctrine of "fair use" originated in the Anglo-American common law during the 18th and 19th centuries as a way of preventing copyright law from being too rigidly applied and "stifling the very creativity which [copyright] law is designed to foster." Though originally a common law doctrine, it was enshrined in statutory law when the U.S. Congress passed the Copyright Act of 1976. The U.S. Supreme Court has issued several major decisions clarifying and reaffirming the fair use doctrine since the 1980s, most recently in the 2021 decision Google LLC v. Oracle America, Inc." If you would answer my question: why Google is protected when copying entire books, Authors Guild, Inc. v. Google, Inc., but I presumably lose the protection of the exact same Federal law when copying part of an article inside of Wikipedia?

and from the Berne Convention...

"every production in the literary, scientific and artistic domain, whatever the mode or form of its expression" (Article 2(1) of the Convention).

the right to translate,

the right to make adaptations and arrangements of the work,

the right to recite literary works in public,

the right to broadcast (with the possibility that a Contracting State may provide for a mere right to equitable remuneration instead of a right of authorization),

the right to make reproductions in any manner or form (with the possibility that a Contracting State may permit, in certain special cases, reproduction without authorization, provided that the reproduction does not conflict with the normal :exploitation of the work and does not unreasonably prejudice the legitimate interests of the author; and the possibility that a Contracting State may provide, in the case of sound recordings of musical works, for a right to equitable remuneration),

the right to use the work as a basis for an audiovisual work, and the right to reproduce, distribute, perform in public or communicate to the public that audiovisual work.

Why is copyrighted content not allowed on Wikipedia?

This question assumes that copyrighted content is not allowed on Wikipedia and thus begs the question, please, cite the law (Copyright Act of 1976 as 17 U.S.C. Section 107 and the Berne Convention, international agreement) governing that does not allow copyright content!?

Under what circumstances can we use copyrighted content?

Please see Copyright Act of 1976 as 17 U.S.C. Section 107. ' "Fair use is a legal doctrine that promotes freedom of expression by permitting the unlicensed use of copyright-protected works in certain circumstances. Section 107 of the Copyright Act provides the statutory framework for determining whether something is fair use and identifies certain types of uses—such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research." '

How do you intend to avoid violating the copyright policy in the future?

You have not established yet where I violated any law but a private corporate policy which necessarily comes under U.S. law. Nor have you shown how an internal "copyright policy" is compatible with U.S. Copyright law; mainly the Copyright Act of 1976 as 17 U.S.C. Section 107, or have you shown that Wikipedia is in fact not violating a different type of U.S. law when it restricts and/or prohibits access to the law? Having a corporate policy stating that Cubans cannot sit at the counter is against the law but why is this not clear to you that fair use is a legal doctrine that "promotes freedom of expression by permitting the unlicensed use of copyright-protected works in certain circumstances". Fair use permits "comment, teaching, scholarship, and research" and how are these endeavors incompatible with Wikipedia? I am not combative, belligerent, uncooperative, obtuse, quarrelsome, or radical as you imply and I genuinely have questions regarding the law. You blasted several pages without giving me a chance to "correct them", which I am allowed to do, and neither did you fix them and have refused me an answer but rather chose the office of judge, jury, and executioner. ovA_165443 (talk) 15:16, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Osvaldo valdes, as has already been explained above, your personal interpretation of US copyright law has exactly zero relevance here. All that matters to us is that you must understand, and agree to conform to, the copyright policy of this project. If you're not interested in doing that then your career here is over, which I believe would be a loss to the project.

If you do want to continue editing, please start by listing, here on this page, each and every article where you have translated even small amounts of content from non-free Spanish-language sources (and of course list the sources themselves also). That will greatly assist with the clean-up of the 179 articles that need to be checked, and will also improve your chances of being allowed to edit again. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 15:40, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You'll also need to follow the unblock process, having the answers to the questions as part of your appeal. See WP:GAB. I can state that you will not be unblocked as it stands now. MER-C 03:47, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Antonio Fernández de Trebejos y Zaldívar

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Humboldt 7 Massacre

I am new in Wikipedia ( editors mode). I am not sure if the article and photos related were added by you. In any case. Regarding the photograph which have the following text: Havana police at the door of apartment 201. The policeman with the glasses appears to be Lt. Colonel Esteban Ventura Novo. It called my attention the mentioned officer with sun glasses is ranked as Captain, so I suspected he was not Ventura Novo; who by the time of the events was a Lt Colonel and was no longer using uniform on daily bases. I looked in Internet and discovered this web: https://www.cubaperiodistas.cu/index.php/2017/04/la-masacre-de-humboldt-7/ Here the author mentions Captain Glery Hernández from 6th Police Station. I am not sure if correct, but it does match the rank in the uniform and also match other webs: https://picryl.com/media/el-capitan-glery-hernandez-de-la-6ta-estacion-de-policia-frente-a-la-puerta-24e520. Kind Regards. Ariam Delgado (talk) 18:11, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bandstand of el Prado moved to draftspace

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Speedy deletion nomination of Maternidad Obrera de Marianao

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Concern regarding Draft:Bandstand of el Prado

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