User talk:Marchjuly/Archives/2018/September

Deleted image at Draft: Jardine Scholarship

Hi Marchjuly (talk · contribs), could you explain why the Jardine Matheson logo can't be used for the Jardine Scholarship page? The Jardine Scholarship is issued by the Jardine Matheson Group, so I imagined that the same fair use rationale would apply. Many thanks! Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 07:56, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Kohlrabi Pickle. Non-free content is only allowed to be used in articles per non-free content use criterion #9; this means no drafts per WP:DRAFTS#Preparing drafts.

As to whether the logo can be added after the draft you're working has been approved as an article, that's a completely different question. Generally, non-free logo are allowed to be used for primary identification purposes in the main infobox or at the top of an article about the organization they represent per item 2 of WP:NFCI, but using them in other articles about subsidiaries or projects operated by the parent organization is not really allowed per item 17 of WP:NFC#UUI. In such cases, a logo specific to the child entity is preferred instead. If no such logo exists, then the default is not to use the parent entity's logo. Perhaps there's a logo for the scholarship that could be uploaded and used instead.

Regarding non-free use rationales, a separate specific non-free use is required for each use of non-free content per non-free content use criterion #10c; so, even if criterion #9 wasn't an issue, the file could've still been removed per WP:NFCCP. There's nothing which says that non-free content can only be used in one article, but additional uses can be harder to justify for various reasons (like item 17 mentioned above), and the justification for one particular use is not always the same for other uses. So, if you plan to use the file in more than one article, make sure to provide the required rationale for each use. Also, be advised that just providing a rationale doesn't mean non-free use complies with all ten non-free content use criteria. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:22, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Marchjuly, thank you for the detailed clarification. Understood re not being able to use them in drafts, and thank you also for the other advice.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kohlrabi Pickle (talk • contribs) 17:38, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Editing shogi articles

Hello Marchjuly, Thank you for your positive comments. This is the first message I have sent via the Talk pages, so could you please let me know if you get it, then I will send a more detailed message. Rsams (talk) 00:29, 6 September 2018 (UTC)RSams

Hi Rsams. If you can read what you post after clicking "Publish page", then so can everyone else. Since you're new to talk pages, you can find out more about how they work and what they are used for at H:TALK. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:41, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Goldston

Per the earlier conversation at HW's page, should suffice as a source for no longer living. If HW thinks that is fine (as he indicated in the earlier conversation) I doubt anyone else would quibble over it. You could drop it at RSN, but I would be tempted to just use it then worry about it if anyone objects. Only in death does duty end (talk) 11:34, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

@Only in death: Thanks for getting back ot me so quickly and I apologize for not responding sooner. The source you linked to looks like WP:TERTIARY, but I don't read Spanish so I'm not sure. Do you have any idea where that source might have gotten its information? If it came from a newspaper or another RS, then it would probably be better to cite that instead. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:09, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Its an encyclopedia of notable residents by the local chamber of commerce for the geographical area he lived in when he died - its likely they are in part relying on primary documents like death certificates etc or local news sources (probably print). You would need to get a fluent spanish speaker beyond that as I only have conversational Catalan. Sorry I cant be more help. Only in death does duty end (talk) 09:30, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for further clarifying. I see if I can dig up anything more on this. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:43, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Please discuss

Hi, Marchjuly

I note that your edit notification reads in part If, by chance, I made an edit that you feel was unwarranted, please feel free to contact me and state your reasons why. I am always open to civil discussion. However, please remember Wikipedia's policy is no personal attacks...

I agree wholeheartedly! In fact I despair that NPA is IMO increasingly disregarded. See User:Andrewa/gentle editor, which was partly inspired by another editor calling NPA an aspirational but largely unenforced policy at AN/I and the fact that nobody there disagreed.

And I'm afraid I think that your your post here may be a case in point. But I'm eager to be proved wrong! What exactly is your point there?

I assume you mean user:Stingrayvibes by a WP:SPA whose only edit was to cast aspersions and accuse another editor of WP:SOCK without providing any diffs or anything else in support. No, I wasn't intending to assist them, and don't see how my edits could have done so. I was intending to assist other editors such as yourself, so you didn't need to reinvent the wheel by repeating the research I had already done.

I'm sorry you didn't find it helpful. But I do not see what damage it did. Please discuss. Perhaps I will learn something. Andrewa (talk) 02:13, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Andrewa. I apologize if I misinterpreted your post as supporting the SPA's claims. I probably should've been a little less snarky and asked for clarification instead. I also didn't notice User talk:Stingrayvibes#Are you a returning editor. Bascially, the SPA was making a NPA against HW, and most likely account was simply created for that purpose. Since you're an admin, I guess I expected you to warn the SPA about such a thing. I also saw that you've never posted on HW's thread until that comment, so I wrongly assumed the worst. Anyway, I've struck my post and clarified that it was inappropriate. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:39, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. It may be a bit more complicated than that. (And agree about the single-edit user, although I wouldn't have called them an SPA on the basis of one edit... every single-edit user would be an SPA in a sense, so I guess I was one once too, as were you.) We are possibly dealing here with a whole constellation of socks, and there is some very aggressive related off-wiki behaviour as well, and even evidence of mental illness. I just wanted to warn other users, as I said, without wanting to call undue attention to the bad guys, which may be exactly what some of them at least want (and even here I am assuming that there's more than one person behind it all, and there may not be, hopefully). email me if you're curious, and/or see meta:What is a troll?, Wikipedia:Deny recognition and even maybe User:Andrewa/what use is Wikipedia#At least it keeps the dickheads busy. Andrewa (talk) 07:27, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Be polite also meant shoot an straight arrow on target. no sugar coating of rubbish... ban vs. delete judgement is Hard for some dumb or self-righteous admin when they had no idea on space and time co-relationships etc... yes? cheerio. LairdUnlimited 16:25, 9 September 2018 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Allthingsgo (talk • contribs) 01:25, 10 September 2018 (UTC (UTC)

Not sure what that means, but categories reserved for articles shouldn't be used on your user page per WP:USERNOCAT. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:40, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Assistance required!

Hello Marchjuly,

Greetings!

Thank you for your prompt and quick response, I was trying to upload the information as I work at NV Gallery and the founders were interested if we could have the wiki page for NV Gallery and I followed the guidelines to be very specific to not look like that it is an self promotion or in violation of any other wikipedia policy, however it is my first time and I was asked to upload the conflict of interest on my user page on the help channel. I would be more than glad if you could assist me on this since this is the first time I'm doing this any help is much appreciated.

Looking forward to hearing from you!

Best Regards, Arpit — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArpitDubey09 (talk • contribs) 08:51, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi ArpitDubey09 It sounds like you have a WP:COI for sure, and might even be subject to WP:PAID. My suggestion to you would be ask for some general advice at the Wikipedia Teahouse or WP:COIN. Just be upfront about your connection, and someone on those pages will try and offer some suggestions on how to best proceed. You might also try asking for help at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Museums and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Visual arts since the editors in those WikiProject probably know more about articles about art galleries than most do. In general, you're going to have show how the gallery meets Wikipedia:Notability (companies and organizations) for any dratt about the gallery to be accepted. Finally, people often mistake Wikipedia for something that it's not really intended to be; so, you might want to look at WP:NOT and WP:42 for some general information as well. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:05, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

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Images without sources

You seem to know what you are doing with images:

These are some queries I had in relation to finding older images without sources:

https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/29748 https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/29813

Most are probably upgradeable to {{information}}, but your assistance in removing the genuinely un-sourced appreciated.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:09, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

Not sure how much I can do, but I take a look at this later. — Marchjuly (talk) 10:23, 25 September 2018 (UTC)