User talk:Lgcsmasamiya/Archive 4

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Speedy deletion nomination of José Isidro Moreno Árcega

Hello Lgcsmasamiya,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged José Isidro Moreno Árcega for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Blurred Lines 18:29, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Mexican parliamentarians

Hi. Thanks for your efforts in creating articles for Mexican politicians. Just a friendly advice, it's better to use "As of 2013, X was a deputy..." or "X was elected to the Y congress in the Z election" rather than "Currently...". The problem with using "Currently" is that is obliges wikipedians to update all the articles after next election, and in many cases this doesn't happen. --Soman (talk) 21:21, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Randykitty. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Nintendomagasinet, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. Randykitty (talk) 08:18, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Curtis Australia

Hey Lgcsmasamiya.

I've re-reviewed Curtis Australia, which you just reviewed; it had several problems with it, including the bare URLs being used for references. When reviewing, please try to ensure you mark the problems with the article so that other users can fix them. Thanks, Ironholds (talk) 04:14, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Ditto Crime Investigation Department (India), which has clear prose problems. Ironholds (talk) 04:16, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Nice Package and Thierry Cassuto needed more inline citations, Energetický a průmyslový holding has bare URLs, Derivations of the Lorentz transformations is clearly mostly unreferenced: Lgcsmasamiya, please take a break so we can have a conversation about this. Reading up, I see you've been warned and blocked about this before, and have not engaged in conversations about it. I'm giving you one last chance to do so before I take it to the site administrators recommending a block for you. Ironholds (talk) 04:19, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

A page you started (Marco Alonso Vela) has been reviewed!

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AN/I

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Ironholds (talk) 16:43, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

I've proposed that you should be indefinitely blocked unless you promise to stop all page patrolling. You can respond in the thread at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive819#Lgcsmasamiya's patrolling if you wish. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 19:28, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Panorama Porno

Hello Lgcsmasamiya,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Panorama Porno for deletion, because it seems to be an article that was created in violation of a block or ban. Content created by banned users will be deleted immediately.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Tritario (talk) 17:54, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Blocked

Hi Lgcsmasamiya. Over the last year or so several users have expressed concerns over the way you review new articles. This is ok - we all make mistakes and can learn from them - but as you haven't responded adequately to these concerns it leaves me with little choice but to block you. If you want to discuss this then please do so on this talk page. If you feel this block is not needed then you may use the {{unblock}} template to appeal it. Regards Basalisk ^{inspect damage}⁄_berate 20:21, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Response

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Lgcsmasamiya (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Ok, i think that i got this so far,but however, there are a lot of unreviewed articles, some of then have been well structures, at least you have to tell me for how many time i will be blocked Lgcsmasamiya (talk) 20:43, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Decline reason:

We're going to need to hear more than "I got this", because you've said things like that before and then the trouble has continued. What is it that you've "got"? What do you think was the problem with how you were editing, and how do you intend to change that? Are you willing to have a long conversation here with experienced users about how to patrol correctly before you touch a single new article in the patrol queue? Do you understand that it might be the case that you will have to stop patrolling for a long time while you learn how things work, and that if you're unblocked you can not go back to doing things the way you have been doing them? A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 20:51, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

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To answer a question you asked Lgcsmasamiya, you are blocked "indefinitely". That means you will not be unblocked until you can show to us that you are going to change the way you edit. You don't need to post a new unblock request; just answer Flufflernutters several questions below. As one of the prior blocking admins, I'll also help review and provide advice as needed. Qwyrxian (talk) 00:21, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

I have unblocked you. Please stop doing NPP until you've learned how to do it, but in mu opinion this was not a valid rerason for an indefinite block. The matter is being discussed at the Administrators Noticeboard/Incidents. here. DGG ( talk ) 02:08, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

To continue, you must not patrol articles! We can discuss later what you need to know in order to patrol them. It is possible that I may be over-ruled at NPP, and your block will be reinstated. It certainly will if you continue to patrol new pages. . — Preceding unsigned comment added by DGG (talk • contribs) 02:15, 15 November 2013‎

I proposed a ban on your reviewing new pages. That ban is likely to be accepted. If you choose not to respond to comments by other editors on your new page reviews, it will remain in place indefinitely: a large part of the community's dissatisfaction and one of the reasons for your block (kindly undone by DGG) is your unwillingness to even acknowledge that other users wish to discuss matters with you, and I should warn you that uncommunicative editors sometimes to end up being blocked indefinitely. This is a collaborative project: time to start talking. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 16:17, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Your unblock request, by the way, suggests that you don't know why you were blocked. I strongly urge you to read the comments at WP:ANI, or this may well start all over again. It is possible that there's a huge backlog of pages to look at, but things simply have to be done right. Drmies (talk) 16:20, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

A page you started (Luis Manuel Arias Pallares) has been reviewed!

Thanks for creating Luis Manuel Arias Pallares, Lgcsmasamiya!

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New Page Patrol ban

As per Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Ban proposal the community has enacted a topic ban as follows:

"User:Lgcsmasamiya is banned from WP:NPP until they have proven to experienced editors (Kudpung and DGG, for instance), that they are capable of reviewing articles in ways that confirm to our guidelines in regards to such things as referencing and copy-paste problems, and make a firm commitment to be responsive to issues raised by other editors and be willing to make changes accordingly."

Accordingly, until and unless this topic ban is lifted by community consensus, do not engage in New Page Patrol or the review of recently created articles under any name. Failure to abide by this restriction would constitute valid grounds for you to be blocked by any administrator. I am sorry to have to be the community's agent in imposing this restriction. Fortunately, any time that you can convince a set of experienced editors that you will do NPP within community norms as specified above, the topic ban can be lifted. DES ^(talk) 23:15, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

		The Mexican Barnstar of National Merit
		For your excellent work in creating stub articles for Mexican politicians - I salute your dedication, and say muchas gracias! Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:21, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
		_{this WikiAward was given to Lgcsmasamiya by Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} on 15:21, 19 November 2013 (UTC)}

Long overdue, too, if you ask me. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:21, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Doge (meme)

Hi there,

I just wanted to let you know I declined the speedy deletion nomination of Doge (meme). For better or worse the article does at least attempt to establish notability, and provides multiple legitimate sources. You may wish to initiate an AfD on the article, which is the next logical step. Let me know if you have any questions, and thanks for your hard work at patrolling. – Juliancolton | ^Talk 04:49, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks & request

Hello Lgcsmasamiya. I would like to thank you for reviewing many articles I created in the past. Can I ask a favor? If you can take a look at three more articles of mine that haven't been reviewed and if they are OK review them? The articles are:

Thanks again. TeamGale 14:42, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you so much! :) TeamGale 09:11, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Trouble with user Zebbe

I'm having trouble with a user called Zebbe who keeps changing information on my article. On several attempts the user changes the credits on the article Descent_to_the_Underworld(album). I tried talking to user Zebbe but he ignores mz request. I come to you for help as you're the administrator who reviewed my article. I request blocking the user from further changes as I believe he'll never stop vandalising the article. Thank you Csabi911 (talk) 12:04, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

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A page you started (María Elena Orantes) has been reviewed!

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Review

Hi Can you review article The Hobbit: There and Back Again (film) please...--Joseph 03:36, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Howdy

Howdy Hondurian mate, just curious, why do you need to "review" a page? What happens then? Cheers! --That Amazing Guy (talk) 13:53, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of XERC-AM

Hello Lgcsmasamiya,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged XERC-AM for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Op47 (talk) 22:16, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	This barnstar has been awarded to you for adding 3 categories to Cartoonito (Spain)! TDFan2006 (talk) 12:51, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Hunter Hunted (band)

Hello, Lgcsmasamiya. You have new messages at Talk:Hunter_Hunted_(band)#speedy_deletion_tag.
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—rybec 00:41, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Hunter Hunted (band)

Hello Lgcsmasamiya. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Hunter Hunted (band), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Band has been the subject of press coverage (A7) and article doesn't seem overly promotional. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 02:26, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

Thank you for taking the time to patrol all of the articles from that split. I really appreciate that! Zell Faze (talk) 17:35, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello

One question: I've created two pages today, but the links are not turning blue. Wikipedia is having some problem today? Janperson (talk) 23:13, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, i've noted this problem since yesterday, but the pages are still active Lgcsmasamiya (talk) 23:22, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your comment! Happy New Year. Twozenhauer (talk) 01:03, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Arrayán (TV series)

Hello Lgcsmasamiya,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Arrayán (TV series) for deletion, because it seems to be an article that was created in violation of a block or ban. Content created by banned users will be deleted immediately.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Op47 (talk) 15:55, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

What?

But i'm not blocked right now and i wasn't blocked in that moment Lgcsmasamiya (talk) 16:14, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

I am sorry for the alarm. The new pages feed tool said that you were. I did check and thought the same as you. I just wanted a second opinion before reporting a bug in the tool. I left a note on the article talk page to that effect, but forgot that you would get a warning. I trust there are no hard feelings. Regards Op47 (talk) 17:21, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

New Category:Czech cheeses

Hi Lgcsmasamiya, thank you for reviewing my first page!

I'm not sure that "Balkansky syr" can be categorized as Czech cheese. It's not a traditional Czech cheese, it's just produced there as other cheeses as Edam, Gauda etc. It's something as Czech variant of the Greek feta or the Bulgarian sirene. These are just details, I'm trying punctual :-)

Tuzemak (talk) 17:13, 1 January 2014 (UTC) Tuzemak

ANI

Sorry to have to do this, but :

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.

Blocked

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for violating a community imposed ban requiring you to avoid new page patrolling. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Tiderolls 19:01, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Lgcsmasamiya (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

F*** this, i'm leaving this sh*t right now, block me for 30 years if you want, this is so ridiculous, there are worst things on this site, bye Lgcsmasamiya (talk) 22:17, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Neither of these are unblock requests. Please don't use this template to ask questions, express your frustration, or converse with admins. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 22:37, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Well, that's certainly the course to take if you really want to be blocked for 30 years. Another option is meet the original conditions of your topic ban and you could be unblocked in 30 minutes. You're in the driver's seat on this. Tiderolls 22:24, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Well sorry, i was a little upset for other things, however, is there not an option for "blank" the New Pages Feed in my account? Lgcsmasamiya (talk) 22:32, 1 January 2014 (UTC) | decline = Neither of these are unblock requests. Please don't use this template to ask questions, express your frustration, or converse with admins. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 22:37, 1 January 2014 (UTC)}}

Disable these unblock requests and I will try to help you get unblocked. It's dinner time for me so I'll be back in an hour. Tiderolls 22:35, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

OK, sorry again, i'm gonna delete this unrelated request. Lgcsmasamiya (talk) 22:46, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

To answer your question, New page patrol is voluntary so it is up to you to refrain from accessing the feed. Is there some obstacle for you in learning the proper method for reviewing the new articles? That would be the optimum solution. Tiderolls 23:17, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

There are a lot of good articles in the unreviewed split, can them considered "not-improved"? Lgcsmasamiya (talk) 23:27, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

How does that impact your actions? Tiderolls 23:29, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

I don't know, but... Lgcsmasamiya (talk) 23:34, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

If you wish to be unblocked you will have to convince editors who are well-versed in the topic that you can patrol new pages properly. So far this discussion is not convincing me that you have any intention of complying with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. I will do what I can to help you but I will not waste my time on someone that does not want my help. Again, the decision is yours. Tiderolls 23:40, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

OK Lgcsmasamiya (talk) 00:07, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

So, if you're prepared to offer some statement that you're willing to edit within policy and convention, I can notify the editors that would be qualified to assess your intent. I would advise that you read the comments at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive819#Lgcsmasamiya's patrolling and familiarize yourself with the standards for review set forth at Wikipedia:New pages patrol before posting. If, after reading the pertinent texts, you have questions or require clarification, ask here and I will find someone to address your concerns. Good luck, Tiderolls 00:17, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks again Lgcsmasamiya (talk) 01:51, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

I can't locate any more administrator Lgcsmasamiya (talk) 22:16, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

I don't understand how that's important, but you can ask for administrator help by using the correct template. Look at Template:Admin help. Tiderolls 00:17, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Question for administrator

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What can i do so you can block me or, at least, how many time i'll be blocked?

--Lgcsmasamiya (talk) 00:25, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Your current block is an "indefinite" block which means that it'll last until you assure the community that you will not violate your topic ban again. Please use the {{unblock}} template to request an unblock.--v/r - T P 07:39, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Lgcsmasamiya (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Please, i'm not sure about this, but i promise to not violate the typical patrolling standards and rules, i think this is my last chance con convince you all so can you give me more recommendations in case i¿ll fail again?. Lgcsmasamiya (talk) 15:34, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You are banned from new page patrolling. That is all; simply agree to stay completely away from it and you'll likely be unblocked. ----jpgordon^{::==( o )} 16:47, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

You're missing the very important point that you have already been restricted from patrolling at all, Lgcsmasamiya. Using an unblock request to tell us that you will patrol well if you're unblocked is basically telling us "I don't plan to follow the restriction I'm under!", and an unblock request that says that is unlikely to be greeted with anything but refusal. If you want to be unblocked, you need to convince a reviewing administrator that you will follow the restriction the community placed you under (no patrolling) and that the community can trust you to keep your word about that this time around, since you didn't keep your word about it last time. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 16:48, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

I agree to stay away from NPP Lgcsmasamiya (talk) 16:52, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Please respond, f*ck Lgcsmasamiya (talk) 16:06, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Unblock request #3

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Lgcsmasamiya (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

There's a low number of unreviewed pages, now you can unblock me if you want Lgcsmasamiya (talk) 8:45 pm, Yesterday (UTC+0)

Decline reason:

"There's a low number of unreviewed pages" shows that you're still monitoring NPP. "I've...lowered my desire" does not mean that you actually intend to stop reviewing. "I will assume all responsibilities if I may again exceed" suggests that you consider breaking your topic ban to still be a possibility. None of these statements is a clear and unambiguous commitment to abide by your topic ban and stop reviewing new pages altogether, which is what will be required before an unblock is considered. Yunshui 雲‍水 15:46, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

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Does this mean you are agreeing to stay completely away from New Page Patrol? EdJohnston (talk) 20:50, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Of course, in this one month block i have just learned to stay away and i've just completely lowered my dessire of patrolling Lgcsmasamiya (talk) 22:56, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

So? Lgcsmasamiya (talk) 23:50, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

So what? You were blocked for violation of a topic ban. Nothing will convince us that you did not understand the terms of that ban. Just 'lowering your desire' to patrol pages isn't enough. We need to hear a clear understanding that you will not patrol, review, or tag pages under any circumstances until such times that the community decides you are free to. Also that you understand that this would be a very last chance and that one single violation would result in immediate blocking again with your talk page access being withdrawn. Your only appeal for an unblock then would be to the Arbitration Committee. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:27, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Okay, I understand all about the topics bans, assuming that this will be the last warning about the NPP, I will assume all responsibilities if I may again exceed.

I'm willing to listen to all the advices and warnings from administrators and other users, seriously, sorry if in the previous three times I went too far.

Greetings and hope to get lucky on this site (if you allow me). Lgcsmasamiya (talk) 00:43, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

One More Chance?

C'mon guys! Just give this person one more chance. TDFan2006 (talk) 22:32, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

The door is open, TDFan2006. All they have to is walk through it. Tiderolls 09:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Lgcsmasamiya

Do not delete that as it is part of the Oracle Seas, so if you do, I would not be happy as I hope to improve this article with other contributors.

Sincerely,

Stratojet94 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stratojet94 (talk • contribs) 20:57, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Unblock request #4

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Lgcsmasamiya (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

This block is no longer necessary because i have already understood the reason of this ban. I agree to stay completely away from NPP. Sorry for all this mess, sincerely.

Accept reason:

On that basis, and on the understanding that you accept what Kudpung wrote above t 00:27, 6 February 2014, I am willing to unblock. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 12:07, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

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