User talk:Killiondude/Archive 11
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Hello there: Pep Guardiola
Hello there. I am an American, a park ranger who lives in Alaska. This User:Walter Görlitz user, as you know, does not take kind to any editing on projects which he considers his. I've attempted to add useful information-- being interested in language and geography-- only to have been take things out and quite nastily. I've pressed on with him, because with regard to Talk:Pep Guardiola, as you'll see, I do not believe he's answered the question as to why accurate and encyclopedic information should be removed. He could have a reason, he just doesn't seem to think that responding on the matter at hand with regard to this article is ... necessarily. I'm wondering if you have any advice. He seems to think I'm a Catalan nationalist. Yeah. No. I'm a park ranger from Alaska. I'm an American. No Spanish or Catalan background. It's very confusing to me. I've worked on controversial topics. This isn't one of them.RangerRichard (talk) 22:38, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
- I didn't read all the text on the talk page because there is a lot. I did some skimming and you make a good argument to include that specific information. Also, just because there is "precedent" on articles doesn't mean all articles on a given topic must be uniform in content/aesthetics, etc. For example, look at Good Articles or Featured Articles and you'll see that they vary based on the main author(s) and the team that does the review of the article in the GA/FA process. With this specific editor in mind, you've shown a lot of patience. I commend you on that. He's not easy to work with, and when you call him on it he deflects and refers to "comment on content, not on the contributor". While this is indeed a policy, so is working well with others, which he struggles with.
- While not easy, I think it's important to take the high road. In this case, you might comment on the relevant WikiProject talk pages to ask for more thoughts/input to gain consensus. While this obviously takes more time and discussion, it won't allow him to unilaterally revert edits. Killiondude (talk) 23:57, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
- Hello again. I feel as if I'm telling tales out of school, but I recently found this on my talk page as a result of what I wrote to you. Again, I don't know what do. But this is how I responded. Is such a thing a basis for being block?
Recent Notice on my User Page
November 2014
Please stop attacking other editors, as you did on User talk:Killiondude. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Stating that I consider any article on Wikipedia "mine" is a vile notion. Don't do it again. Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:29, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
Walter, I alerted you to a thank you I received from someone unknown to me, an admin. I have no idea why he contacted me, except apparently he say something on your page which I wrote. I think I explained to him the crux our disagreement on Pep Guardiola, which centers around your insistence on putative "consistency," and my suggestion that geographic data in infoboxes be based on the specific needs of the article in question. This is not an attack on you. It's an explanation of the struggle that we are having, and frankly, given the many controversial topics I have worked on, I am at a loss to understand why this, of all things, is something where I am unable to work with you in a constructive way. You do very much have a proprietary notion about articles important to you. I never used the word "vile" or anything akin to that to describe you or my belief that this is the case, so please do not put words in my mouth. What's astounding to me is that continue to use the imperative mood, rather than to make reasonable requests, and to explain the basis of your requests to me. Without engaging in such explanations, and dealing with people in such a way, I cannot move forward with you and we will remain at an impasse. Do understand, however, that while confronting other people in the past may have run them off, and you may have simply gotten your way, I will continue to press diligently forward with what I believe to be a reasonable perspective to which you have offered no response with regard to the individual article in question. I don't mean to say that I cannot be convinced that you are right, I simply mean to say that you have not addressed the geographic needs of *this article* in any meaningful and thoughtful way, expect by means of "suggested" guidelines which as you well know are not followed in a myriad of circumstances. RangerRichard (talk) 03:49, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
- How tedious. In any case, it seems you copied some off topic discussion to the article talk page. What's best is to focus on the content (what goes on the actual article) and not on the motivation behind the editor in question's actions. I understand that you probably didn't know this wasn't apropos. I think an appropriate goal would be to allow the editor the space to do right, otherwise they'll have plenty of rope. Killiondude (talk) 20:06, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
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Former Roman Catholic dioceses in Europe
I re-created this category which i understand you deleted some years ago. I think that there is now enough material there to warrant its re-creation. Laurel Lodged (talk) 18:17, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
- I had only deleted it before because it was empty. You're were completely fine to recreate it once it was populated. Thank you for the note. Have a great day. Killiondude (talk) 00:52, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Account
An editor named John from Idegon questioned my use of that account, so I retired it never to be used again.The Cross Bearer (talk) 08:38, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
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I've escaped to your talk page because mine is too long
But really. --MZMcBride (talk) 04:09, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
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Assistance
I need you to provide me a copy of the deleted article on Cloverton (band), so I can see what was done on that article previously. Their new Christmas EP charted on three Billboard charts.The Cross Bearer (talk) 01:02, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- They're definitely notable now. It seems you have it at User:The Cross Bearer/Cloverton (band). Killiondude (talk) 17:59, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
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stats.grok.se
(This section is a repost from User talk:Mitchumch#stats.grok.se) Mitchumch (talk) 04:55, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
@SMcCandlish: The following FAQ appears on the FAQs page for the pageviews statistics tool
- Are redirects included in the data for a specific article?
- No. One would need to look up each redirect's hit statistics.
In light of this FAQ, do you still think the statement, "The stats.grok.se results do not tell us what people search for, only what pages they end up on ..." is true?
Mitchumch (talk) 05:42, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- Of course. That hit counter is primarily telling us what people get to via links; it has nothing intrinsically to do with searches. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 11:43, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
- @Killiondude: @Henrik:
- I am trying to resolve the above disagreement. As can be read, I referred to the FAQs page to resolve this disagreement. However, the disagreement remains. I was hoping the maintainers of this tool could state if either understanding is correct or incorrect. This disagreement is rooted in the following statement written by me (Mitchumch),
- "The article "Movements for civil rights" has been viewed on average 205 times per day as of March 23, 2015. This article has three terms that serve as redirects to it. Those redirect terms are "Civil rights movements," "Rights movement," and "Civil rights in the United States." The term "Civil rights movements" contributes an average of 6 views per day for 90 days as of March 23, 2015. The term "Rights movement" contributes an average of 0.4 views per day for 90 days as of March 23, 2015. The term "Civil rights in the United States" contributes an average of 6 views per day for 90 days as of March 23, 2015. Of the four terms that directs users and readers to this page, the term "Movements for civil rights" is particularly recognizable. The term "Movements for civil rights" is a phrase many search for. The term "Civil rights movements" is a phrase many do not search for."
- Thank you for your assistance. Mitchumch (talk) 07:39, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
- Mitchumch, the counts are for what URL is in the address bar. It doesn't matter how they got to the page (via Wikipedia's internal search or via an external search engine). What matters is which link they clicked to get to the target. With that in mind, your statements, including that Movements for civil rights is the most searched for, seem to be reasonable. I apologize for not responding sooner. I saw your ping, and then I forgot about replying. Killiondude (talk) 05:01, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you for your assistance. Mitchumch (talk) 07:39, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
- I want to review your response to ensure that I understand it as you intended.
- Does not count
- Search suggestions that display in Wikipedia's internal search engine
- Web "Links" on external search engine pages
- Does count
- URL address for article or namespace pages
- Does not count
- I am confused. How are terms that serve as redirects counted if that pages URL address is never displayed to the editor or reader?
- I want to review your response to ensure that I understand it as you intended.
- Thank you. Mitchumch (talk) 11:55, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hmm. I went to gather test cases to show you, but things have changed over the years. It seems that MediaWiki now automatically changes the URL in the address bar. I used to be able to visit Sacramento, CA with that title in the URL but it's now swapped to the target Sacramento, California. Due to that, I'm not sure anymore how this works. MZMcBride, do you know anything about this? Or can you poke around? Is it just anytime the (Redirected from x) appears? Killiondude (talk) 19:53, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, hello. We're using JavaScript to do that URL updating/fixing/rewriting. You can blame or thank Matma Rex. Stats, damned lies, &c. Hope that helps. Cheers! --MZMcBride (talk) 19:56, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Matma Rex: How are terms that serve as redirects counted if that pages URL address is never displayed to the editor or reader? Thank you. Mitchumch (talk) 07:01, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- I don't know how stats.grok.se counts redirects, I don't run it. The user's browser still sends a request for the "original" URL, not the "fixed" one, so they are presumably handled exactly how they were handled before this feature was introduced. (Of course, if a user refreshes the page or bookmarks it or copies the URL to give someone else, then the "fixed" URL is used.) Matma Rex talk 10:21, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Matma Rex: How are terms that serve as redirects counted if that pages URL address is never displayed to the editor or reader? Thank you. Mitchumch (talk) 07:01, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, hello. We're using JavaScript to do that URL updating/fixing/rewriting. You can blame or thank Matma Rex. Stats, damned lies, &c. Hope that helps. Cheers! --MZMcBride (talk) 19:56, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hmm. I went to gather test cases to show you, but things have changed over the years. It seems that MediaWiki now automatically changes the URL in the address bar. I used to be able to visit Sacramento, CA with that title in the URL but it's now swapped to the target Sacramento, California. Due to that, I'm not sure anymore how this works. MZMcBride, do you know anything about this? Or can you poke around? Is it just anytime the (Redirected from x) appears? Killiondude (talk) 19:53, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you. Mitchumch (talk) 11:55, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
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Hi, Killiondude. You deleted File:Manspreading.png as a copyvio on Commons yesterday. Could you tell me who uploaded it and when, please? I can't see that stuff as I'm not an admin on Commons. The file has been used for trolling on Manspreading, and I'd like to know if it was the same user that uploaded it. Bishonen | talk 16:44, 17 April 2015 (UTC).
- Hi Bish, it was uploaded by The Great Corrector (talk · contribs). It was uploaded at 03:35, 16 April 2015. Killiondude (talk) 17:16, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- Aha, I thought it might have been. Thanks. Bishonen | talk 17:44, 17 April 2015 (UTC).
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stats.grok.se is "stuck"?
hello;
stats.grok.se seems to be "stuck" @ 2015-05-23, in that no statistics newer than that date are showing up; at least for wp/en. unfortunately, i haven't time to field-test more wikis just now (my apologies).
no idea if the problem is with the site/tool there, or something further "upstream"; but i hope it gets put back online soon; it's a very important & useful tool!
best regards & much luck in fixing it,
Lx 121 (talk) 10:51, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- Same issue in German WP. Henrik seems to be offline since 2014 August. Maybe you can help. Thanks. --Partynia (talk) 06:53, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
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- That's a nice collection of pictures. Thanks for the well wishes. :) Killiondude (talk) 06:04, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
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Can you help me ?
It seems like you are the only one that I can talk to here I asked the model manager to put CC0 Public Domain Free for commercial use No attribution required For the pictures I'm trying to upload
Here is the link http://www.bahariibaadat.com/blog-1/
Here is the link
Haroonazizi (talk) 20:46, 26 May 2016 (UTC) Haroonazizi (talk) 14:35, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
- Hello, Haroonazizi. I'm not quite sure what you're asking me to do. Has it been released by the copyright holder? If so, it needs to go to OTRS. Something like permissions-en
wikimedia.org. Killiondude (talk) 16:38, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
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Hello. I wonder whether you want to undelete Daily fail. Another redirect Daily Fail was created. --George Ho (talk) 13:42, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
- Not particularly. You can recreate it if you want. Killiondude (talk) 19:03, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
- Done. --George Ho (talk) 03:57, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
Hello again. Three years after deletion per RfD nom, someone re-created the page Daily Wail as a redirect to Daily Mail. I wonder whether you can undelete previous revisions of the page. Thank you. –George Ho (talk) 14:23, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
- I see no reason to. There were two edits: one to create and one to put up for RfD. Killiondude (talk) 19:03, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
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Sir,
I demand a refund. --MZMcBride (talk) 03:06, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, madame? How may I assist you? President Bartlet is going to tell the country he has MS. Things are tense. Killiondude (talk) 03:09, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
- Two Cathedrals?! --MZMcBride (talk) 03:10, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
- Just finished the episode prior. I now know to be mentally prepared for the next. Killiondude (talk) 03:13, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
- I started that article (such that it was) back when the English Wikipedia had spoiler warnings. Nowadays Killiondude just blurts them out on his talk page without warning! --MZMcBride (talk) 03:17, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
- Ha. There's no assertion of notability there! Killiondude (talk) 03:24, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
- I started that article (such that it was) back when the English Wikipedia had spoiler warnings. Nowadays Killiondude just blurts them out on his talk page without warning! --MZMcBride (talk) 03:17, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
- Just finished the episode prior. I now know to be mentally prepared for the next. Killiondude (talk) 03:13, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
- Two Cathedrals?! --MZMcBride (talk) 03:10, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
Merging edit history of Alfa Romeo Tipo 103
Hi Killiondude, thanks for the question. I am happy to follow whatever the wikipedia best practice is for edit histories. From what I've read editors are discouraged from doing what I just did; a big cut/paste edit. I like to work in my sandbox when making many changes but don't know how to merge the histories myself. If you could point me to a reference that explains it that would be appreciated. I have edited articles in articlespace and after making many often minor changes I have sometimes felt that the history is getting cluttered up, but I recognize that having the entire history there makes reverting any one change easier. Kumboloi (talk) 03:20, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
- Hey there Kumboloi. I haven't been actively editing in the last several years, but yes, big cut/paste edits are somewhat frowned upon. However, like I mentioned, since you were the only contributor to the page it should be fine in terms of attribution. Administrators have to do history merging, and I happen to be one! Just let me know what you'd like. Killiondude (talk) 03:28, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
- Killiondude, I am okay with it being left as one big edit, without merging the edit history from the sandbox. If this situation comes up in the future, how could I request a merge of the history? Thanks again. Kumboloi (talk) 03:40, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
- Okay, sounds good. You can use Template:Histmerge or Wikipedia:Requests for history merge. You seem like a very sane and nice person. Thank you for adding to Wikipedia. If you ever need help, let me know. Killiondude (talk) 03:53, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
- Killiondude, I am okay with it being left as one big edit, without merging the edit history from the sandbox. If this situation comes up in the future, how could I request a merge of the history? Thanks again. Kumboloi (talk) 03:40, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
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