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Your opinion on treating IP users, here and on freenode.

Hello. Would you mind sharing your opinion about treating IP users here and on Freenode? What are your thoughts on the mistreatment of IP users by admins and prominent non-admins in both places? What is the proper way to deal with them/us? Thanks. 75.39.128.250 (talk) 06:05, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm not Killiondude, but a talk page stalker who helps Killiondude answer talk page posts. Typically if someone is disruptive, they will be blocked from editing. If you wish to report a disruptive user, first try to resolve the dispute with the user, and if that fails or requires administrator assistance (including issues involving disputes with administrators), consider using an administrator's noticeboard. Cheers. --slakr\ talk / 06:38, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

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A beer for you!

I missed you! Also, hi. Theo10011 (talk) 23:24, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

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yo brahhhhhh — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.70.43.161 (talk) 20:52, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi. Killiondude (talk) 06:50, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

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Wikipedia!

While I have long believed that there is a certain amount of hubris displayed when users leave messages on their own talk pages directed at others, I felt like it might be time for me to leave a message here for friends that I've made and for future users who wandered upon a comment I've made or an article I've contributed to and wondered where I went (wandering and wondering, oh my!). At the risk of appearing like something I'm not or as if I've died, here I go.

Wikipedia is awesome. Wikipedia is awesome for high schoolers, college students, and those with jobs or careers that afford them enough time to contribute. It's great to share knowledge with others and work together for some greater good. It's also nice to know that there are quirky people with the same interests as you as well as learn about other quirky people who are weirder than you.

Wikipedia is horrible. Wikipedia is horrible for people with any sense of justice. There is so much drama ranging from petty disputes to huge (nearly unsolvable) dilemmas between sects/groups/enemies/fill-in-the-blank. There are also issues that the Foundation has, of which are many in my opinion. Then there are the people who take it far too seriously, etc.

I've enjoyed my time here overall. It's been quite a learning experience in many ways. I've made friends with ideologies which differ greatly from mine. I've learned quite a lot of information whilst creating, adding to, and browsing articles. I've also learned a lot more about internet culture as well as technical aspects of computers and the internet.

I just don't have the time now that I once had. This isn't to say that I never will. Just an update that, at my current point in time, I don't necessarily have the ability to check in every day, several times a day.

We'll see how things go in this next period of life. :-)

-- Killiondude (talk) 05:14, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

I don't care about any of this, just come back to IRC you bastard. --Closedmouth (talk) 06:13, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
Nerd. --MZMcBride (talk) 06:24, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
I hate you all. THE END. Killiondude (talk) 04:55, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
I love you. -— Isarra ༆ 05:17, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Great acceptance speech! The academy thanks you for your lifetime of service. <applesauce> I miss ya! Your page is turning into the Singpost archive. Theo10011 (talk) 01:27, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

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Some Ramen for you: kicking 108.25.119.171 to the curb

Ramen!
Thanks for intervening and blocking the above IP. Thanks. Cheers. --Rangeblock victim (talk) 15:46, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
No prob. Killiondude (talk) 21:05, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

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You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at MediaWiki talk:Userlogin-remembermypassword's talk page. Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 21:50, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

@Steven (WMF): I thought we were going to kill the talkback templates now that echo is here? Legoktm (talk) 22:16, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
What I really want is notifications for replies on threads other than my user talk, though I guess we will need to wait for Flow before that happens. For now, the mention feature that you just used is a pretty decent tool for pinging people. Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 22:19, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
Replied there. It's on my watchlist as I "created" the system message. Killiondude (talk) 22:36, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
I miss {{backtalk}}. Killiondude (talk) 22:36, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
It is pretty funny. Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 22:43, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
So as an admin, why not restore it?! --70.179.161.230 (talk) 12:15, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
That's a no-no since it was deleted through a deletion discussion. See the deletion log summary when you click the redlink. Killiondude (talk) 15:14, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

questioning my oppose

aloha, killiondude. i appreciate your insight into my voting on an rfa. okay, i kinda don't. effectively, you are shaming me for having a different opinion than the landslide of other people voting there. i am sure you had good faith in doing so, but maybe you could speak to the substance of what i have to say rather than your implied motives. instead, have a look at my contributions. right about half of my contributions are to the article space. a further quarter are to user talk, to coordinate edits, and to cooperate with users instead of idly throwing stones at them from an ivory tower. consider, however, your own. you contribute to articlespace right about 30% of the time. i've been an editor on the project almost five years longer than you have. i think i actually have perspective into the nepotist echo chamber that is RFA. perspective that you, frankly, could not have. so, please, spare me the coy little insults. i don't think it's funny. if you'll excuse me, i have productive stuff to do. xoxo ... aa:talk 18:17, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Your vote rationale was inane. I responded by comparing it to another user who used a similar voting rationale when he was involved in RFA and adminship topics such as yourself. <3 Killiondude (talk) 20:19, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
I'll speak to the substance: vote rationale seems to suggest that your assessment of the candidate's priorities should trump the candidate's. That is, you seemed to suggest in your vote that you'd evaluated the candidate's contributions and deemed that it would be a better use of his time to continue focusing on non-admin tasks. I don't think it's fair to oppose a candidate in this way. Perhaps a neutral, but really it isn't up to you or to me to dictate how others choose to contribute.

Adminship is about trust. Given the dynamics here, the more mop-wielders there are, the more we can get done. The stats are pretty clear that most of the actions here are done by a small percent of users. So you need any even larger overall pool in order to have a decent-sized pool of useful users. It's true! I agree that there are many problems with RFA, but I don't think unfairly opposing good candidates will improve the process. --MZMcBride (talk) 03:30, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

You know, I appreciate your saying that. At least you paid attention and had something of substance to say. The thing is – and I think you would agree, or at least I hope you do – my vote is mine to cast, regardless of what others think of how I should vote, which criteria I should vote upon, and so on. My personal opinion is we have far too many admins. I'd like to see the number reduced by 75%. ... aa:talk 04:19, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

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Number of edits

A few weeks ago you queried a user about that user's ...optimistic ... self-reported number of edits. Maybe you'll find this edit summary amusing. All the best, JBL (talk) 14:32, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

@Joel B. Lewis, starting off my day with a smile! Thanks for the link. :-) Killiondude (talk) 14:53, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

WTf

why u delete my shit
Jackmedude1223, I think we agree! It was definitely similar to fecal matter. Killiondude (talk) 22:01, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

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STALKED

[1] I may have someone wikistalking me. Stay tuned for more information. Killiondude (talk) 06:14, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure it counts as stalking if you enjoy it. --MZMcBride (talk) 06:28, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thanks for finding Wikipedia:WikiProject Denmark/Popular pages! ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:32, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
I am but a humble Wikipedian. Thank you. Killiondude (talk) 17:57, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

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DYK RfC

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Thanks for adding the site notice last night. As it substantially increased participation in the RfC, I've proposed restoring it. See MediaWiki_talk:Sitenotice#Remove_VisualEditor_default_state_RFC_notice. Andreas JN466 14:43, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

I was also keeping an eye on participation and noticed a substantial increase in traffic when the site notice was in effect. It could have also been an overall high-traffic time in general for Wikipedians, though. Thanks for starting the discussion and for the notice here. Killiondude (talk) 18:48, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

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Please look at creation date before deleting an empty page

You just deleted a page I just created.
Someone could create a page and not fill it with meaningful content for a few days or a week.
Please don't do this sort of vandalism again. André437 (talk) 07:36, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi André437, I'm sorry you're upset. However, I was fully in the right to delete that article. It falls under the third criterion for speedy deletion. Please do not submit articles with no meaningful content. Killiondude (talk) 18:29, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
And I've just deleted it again because it is almost exactly the same as Cities and towns during the Syrian civil war. This is bad for a few reasons, some of which are outline at Template:Uw-c&pmove. I'm not sure what you're trying to. If you explain then I might be able to help you. Killiondude (talk) 18:36, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
1) Obviously you do not understand article A3. Please read the popup note at the end. You violated this point with the first deletion. I had simply created the page (with only an "x" in it) before immediately working on setting up the page, and you deleted my page before I could save it. As I said, that amounts to vandalism on your part.
2) The second delection is also uncalled for. You yourself admit that you do not know what I was trying to do. So why delete without asking ? At the very best it is a severe lack of common courtesy. Also effectively vandalism on your part.
We are in the process of splitting the page, which is specifically mentioned as accepable under the wikipedia policy that you cited in deleting the page. This is because our page is too big to be properly processed by Mediawiki.
This second deletion deleted a lot of important info that had been transfered from the original page.
BTW, we decided to split the page after considerable discussion, and after trying various alternatives. This is not a lone initiative, although I am doing the initial transition. Others are actively maintaining current info.
You may not recognize this fact, but it is perfectly legitimate to take time to change pages, and it is a considerable lack of courtesy to not *ask first*.
Please restore the page, as there is otherwise unrecoverable information lost. Both the original and new pages have undergone considerable modification. They only *superficially* seem the same, and when I am finished with the transition (which could take several weeks or more), there will be little overlap of the detailed content.
Please note that your action was totally irresponsible, and in clear violaion of the *spirit* of Wikipedia policy. Hopefully you don't vandalise other contributors' pages like that. André437 (talk) 06:10, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi André437. To your number one, yes it is deletable via A3 because there was no meaningful content. I don't care if you were working on adding text. There was nothing present worthy of being an article. Create something in your userspace or a draft somewhere besides the mainspace next time.
Just because I don't know what you're trying to do doesn't make it worthy of me not deleting it. This is an invalid premise. I don't have to ask your permission to delete pages that fall under any of the criteria for speedy deletion. Hence the word "speedy" in it.
In order to not get something deleted via the "A" set (which stands for "article" and is used in the article space or mainspace) you may actively work, for several weeks or more, on a draft in your userspace or elsewhere. In fact, please see User:André437/Syrian civil war 2011 - cities and towns - history. You're welcome.
In the future, please remember to properly attribute articles you copy. Killiondude (talk) 06:41, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
First of all, it seems rather silly to take 5-10 minutes to copy an article to a user page, and then after preliminary edits, take another 5-10 minutes to copy it to its' intended location. The page is very big, and it always takes about that time for such an operation with the page. (At least with my slow ADSL connexion. Smaller Wikipedia page updates, such as a typical talk page, are very fast.) Allowing 24 hours before deleting an empty page is a reasonable expectation.
If you had looked at each page, you would have noticed a considerable difference in appearance. By copying the bulk of the original page, instead of transfering a little at a time, it saves considerable time in setting up the new page, as well as reducing the chance of editing errors. I expect that this would be common when splitting pages.
There were already links in both directions between the original page and the new page, and the second deletion broke the links from the old page to the new. So working on it in user space for a few weeks will make these links, to information transferred from the old page, non-functional for that time. A gradual transition in regular space is called for. (I do understand that *sometimes* that may not be the case.)
For attribution, I'll put a link in the edit summaries. I wasn't aware of that policy, although I was planning to put a note at the top about the pages being related. André437 (talk) 05:01, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Killiondude, I don't know if you recall this discussion. I'm pinging you to know if it's possible to fix the link to voy and another bug on the research. Let me give you an example.

If I look at [2] it show me correctly the data of it:voy:Firenze, but if I insert in the input field the name of another city, for example Sesto Fiorentino, the URL change into [3] that shows data about it:Sesto Fiorentino instead of it:voy:Sesto Fiorentino.

Do you know who can support for this fix? Let me know, --Andyrom75 (talk) 07:25, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

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Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 23:42, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

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Something something history

why you deleted my writing ? I am Persian I want defend my history . why are you racist ? why are you believe the 300 ? if some one do it with your country what are you doing ?

Because it wasn't encyclopedic in tone.
I'm not.
I know 300 is fictional, not entirely truthful (just like any major Hollywood movie).
What?
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