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Potential sock?
Hey there, Donald. I'm not sure about this, but can you check to see if the user User:GymratW is a sock of User:Becausewhynothuh?? This user certainly might be having a WP:COI with the city articles and is changing the images. If you don't have time, then I'll ask another checkuser. Thanks. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 13:08, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- I've set up a SPI on Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Becausewhynothuh?. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 13:19, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- @NoobThreePointOh: Sorry, I am not a checkuser. Donald Albury 15:38, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Donald Albury Oh, I was looking at your user groups and saw the checkuser permission in there. Ok. Thanks for letting me know. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 15:52, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Where did you see that? It isn't here. I had checkuser while I was on ArbCom, but I never learned how to use it, and it was removed when I resigned. If something is showing me with CU, I need to get it changed. Donald Albury 16:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Donald Albury Well, it was showing in your user group page. I was a little confused, since it still showed you as a checkuser. Yeah, you might want to remove the checkuser permission from that page. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 16:18, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- That shows that I had check user in November 2022 when I removed autopatrolled from my rights. I cannot add or remove checkuser from my own rights, and check user, as well as oversight, were removed 1 January 2023, as recorded here. Donald Albury 16:50, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Ah. Ok. All right then. Thanks for letting me know. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 17:13, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- That shows that I had check user in November 2022 when I removed autopatrolled from my rights. I cannot add or remove checkuser from my own rights, and check user, as well as oversight, were removed 1 January 2023, as recorded here. Donald Albury 16:50, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Donald Albury Well, it was showing in your user group page. I was a little confused, since it still showed you as a checkuser. Yeah, you might want to remove the checkuser permission from that page. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 16:18, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Where did you see that? It isn't here. I had checkuser while I was on ArbCom, but I never learned how to use it, and it was removed when I resigned. If something is showing me with CU, I need to get it changed. Donald Albury 16:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Donald Albury Oh, I was looking at your user groups and saw the checkuser permission in there. Ok. Thanks for letting me know. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 15:52, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- @NoobThreePointOh: Sorry, I am not a checkuser. Donald Albury 15:38, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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Flatworms
Regarding the article about flatworms. The taxobox for Acoelomorpha clearly says it is a subphylum in the phylum Xenacoelomorpha. And in the article for Xenacoelomorpha, the article says "The clade (groupings of organisms based on their most recent shared/common ancestors) Xenacoelomorpha groups the Acoelomorpha and the genus Xenoturbella, due to molecular studies". So it is really mentioned in the Xenacoelomorpha article. 178.232.173.10 (talk) 03:42, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
COI declaration
Thank you for this detailed declaration, but in the final entry you note "I was stationed there 1978–1969" - I think you might have either a transposition or typo. Thryduulf (talk) 22:19, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
Cape Romano revert
Hi there. In regards to the revert of my edits to Cape Romano, what makes a local news source unreliable? I have seen many instances of Wikipedia routinely drawing from them for information. The source in question had direct photographs of the info. Also, was a full revert entirely necessary, as opposed to a corrective edit? The picture of the pyramid house, for instance, met the requirements. SavagePanda845 (talk) 09:16, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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Thanks for correctly ordering and simplifying my homestead edit. I read your page and noticed your also a native Miamian, you have inspired me to also start contributing to the WikiProject Florida as well. Thank you for all your contributions and sharing your knowledge and history of south florida! Origenous (talk) 01:33, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Liberia local name
Hi, regarding the Liberia article, I only added a local name of the country. You can find this at: https://st.unicode.org/cldr-apps/v#/nqo/T_Africa/ Oreen.yousuf (talk) 00:49, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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Any ideas? Can't we prune, not wholesale revert? Zenon.Lach (talk) 19:41, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Image galleries
Could you please comment on User_talk:4throck#Image_galleries about the reverts to Lunar Prospector and Diogo Cão ? Cheers, 4throck (talk) 08:19, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Fair Assessment
Donald, would you take a look at this draft and see if it's ready to publish. Just need a fair assessment and I've seen you an the River Wikiproject. --ARoseWolf 13:56, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- @ARoseWolf: Well, I certainly have published articles about rivers that were shorter and less well sourced (several were sourced to a single book). I will recommend putting the second source in {{Cite web}}, but that's a gnomish thing. I appreciate how hard it can be to find reliable sources about lesser-known rivers, and have often relied on government reports. So, yeah, I'll say it is ready. Donald Albury 16:29, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the assessment. It was very hard for this one in particular. I know so much personally about the river, I'll leave it at that, but I had to suppress what I know about it and only summarize what could be found in the sources. I truly am mesmerized by the editors that create GA's and FA's. Such hard work and dedication should be admired. --ARoseWolf 16:51, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keeping personal knowledge out of articles can be hard. I have slipped up a few times, although, I hope, not recently. I have occasionally though about trying to take an article to FA, but my attention span on a particular article falters after a week or two, and there are always so many other topics that need attention. Donald Albury 17:14, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- I believe I modified the source right. If you are busy you don't have to look. I appreciate your perspective on it. I have made countless mistakes in editing. My attention span is very short. It's funny because when I do a task around the house I get super focused and can complete it but there is so much eye candy on Wikipedia. I swear I look a child on its first birthday sinking teeth into icing covered cake. We all have seen those videos. lol Thanks again, and anytime you need help or some encouragement to get that FA off the ground I think I give great pep talks. :) --ARoseWolf 17:26, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- It looks fine to me. Donald Albury 17:55, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, now I'm off to finish Haines State Forest and The Mescalero Sands of New Mexico which I promised to get done years ago. I hate research. lol <<Deep Breath>> Wish me luck. --ARoseWolf 18:00, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Good luck! Donald Albury 18:18, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, now I'm off to finish Haines State Forest and The Mescalero Sands of New Mexico which I promised to get done years ago. I hate research. lol <<Deep Breath>> Wish me luck. --ARoseWolf 18:00, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- It looks fine to me. Donald Albury 17:55, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- I believe I modified the source right. If you are busy you don't have to look. I appreciate your perspective on it. I have made countless mistakes in editing. My attention span is very short. It's funny because when I do a task around the house I get super focused and can complete it but there is so much eye candy on Wikipedia. I swear I look a child on its first birthday sinking teeth into icing covered cake. We all have seen those videos. lol Thanks again, and anytime you need help or some encouragement to get that FA off the ground I think I give great pep talks. :) --ARoseWolf 17:26, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keeping personal knowledge out of articles can be hard. I have slipped up a few times, although, I hope, not recently. I have occasionally though about trying to take an article to FA, but my attention span on a particular article falters after a week or two, and there are always so many other topics that need attention. Donald Albury 17:14, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the assessment. It was very hard for this one in particular. I know so much personally about the river, I'll leave it at that, but I had to suppress what I know about it and only summarize what could be found in the sources. I truly am mesmerized by the editors that create GA's and FA's. Such hard work and dedication should be admired. --ARoseWolf 16:51, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Coosa Chiefdom Rewrite
@Donald Albury: Given the general structural and citation issues in the article for the Coosa chiefdom, I have been working on a rewrite. At this point, I don't think its complete, but I wanted to ask you to take a look. Thank you for your time. --KiwiNova (talk) 19:41, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think that looks pretty good. An article with a topic adjacent to yours that I worked on is Apalachicola Province. I think there is a lot of room in WP for improvements to coverage of the proto-historical/early historic period in the southeastern U.S. I previously kept myself busy sticking mainly to topics related to Florida, but that area spills over into the wider souteast. I have been disappointed in how limited much coverage of Native Americans in the southeastern U.S. is in WP. Something I don't see much coverage is how Mississippian chiefdoms evolved into local confederacies, and then merged into the Muscogee Confederacy. Oh, yeah, take a look at Tribal town if you haven't seen it. Donald Albury 23:00, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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Robinson Springs
A Robinson Springs is noted in historical sources four miles northwest of Marianna "florida"&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&ovdme=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiBi6Gf-sqGAxXifDABHXUqD4MQ6AF6BAgLEAM per here but I can't find any trace of what became of it? It is noted here also. FloridaArmy (talk) 02:47, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- @FloridaArmy: Sorry, I don't see anything. There may be something in a local source that hasn't been uploaded to the net, but, aside from an historical society in Jackson County, I don't know where to look. Donald Albury 20:50, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking for me. Much appreciated. FloridaArmy (talk) 22:26, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Robert (doll) Edit Assist/Advice
Hi Donald,
No need to introduce myself as you have recently blocked my profile from editing Robert (doll). Robert's page is still outdated with information that is not totally accurate.
I'd like to update his page still but cannot risk being blocked again.
As an Admin, can you please inform me as to what was the issue with my most recent update to his page?
I'd like to come to a solution so Robert's page can be updated accordingly.
Thanks~~~ Gabriellemcnell (talk) 20:09, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Gabriellemcnell: I recommend that you propose any changes to the article on its talk page, and see what other editors say about your proposals. Donald Albury 20:27, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Belle Glade, Florida
Hello Donald! I saw your comment on my talk page about reverting the changes I made to the Belle Glade page. Wikipedia's general guideline on reliable sources suggests that publications from reputable organizations, which would include government agencies are considered reliable resources. I cited the Belle Glades Gov website which should be considered a reliable source. I want to hear you out, but I think we can revert the changes I made with some exceptions. Let's talk before I undo your changes. MoisesM12 (talk) 00:04, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Moises M12: Reliability of sources is contingent on what the source is being used for. A local government source is generally considered reliable for content about that government. Not so much so for the history of the area before that government existed. Archaeological and historical sources published by academic presses and journals trump histories published on the web by local governments, chambers of commerce, and similar sources. Note that our article on Calusa states,
At the time of European contact in the 16th and 17th centuries, the historic Calusa were the people of the Caloosahatchee culture. They developed a complex culture based on estuarine fisheries rather than agriculture. Calusa territory reached from Charlotte Harbor to Cape Sable, all of present-day Charlotte, Lee, and Collier counties, and may have included the Florida Keys at times.
There is no indication in currently accepted scholarly treatment of the Calusa that they were ever resident in Palm Beach County. The people living around Lake Okeechobee when the Spanish arrived in Florida were likely the Mayaimi. A century ago many sources stated that the Calusa extended over musch of southern Florida, but more recent scholarship has restricted their culture to southwest Florida, although their political influence may have extended further. Donald Albury 00:26, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
@MoisesM12: Repining with correct name. - Donald Albury 00:49, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Political views Kenneth Griffin
Hi Donald. I noticed your participation in Wikipedia:WikiProject Miami and was hoping that you would be interested in taking a look at an edit request I recently posted at Talk:Kenneth C. Griffin#Additions to Political views. I would be grateful if you were able to implement those edits. Thanks, Cduffymul (talk) 23:22, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Since you're already involved in the discussion...
Could you please weigh in on whether or not this is an appropriate action given the stated intent of the nomination? Note that the nom is the author of the article, intends to create 20k articles of that type, has consistently expressed opposition and hostility to attempts at restricting mass-creation of such articles, and given their extensive involvement in the topic and what has already been stated about these AfD outcomes in the thread, should know exactly how their AfD is going to turn out (so it's disingenuous to frame it as a "test case" that's supposed to influence the current discussion as if they're agnostic and as if they genuinely believe the article should be deleted). JoelleJay (talk) 19:02, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Florida resource
I have noticed and enjoyed your contributions on Florida historical topics (such as fishing ranchos) so just wanted to flag this 1860 Florida map image I recently uploaded from NARA. No idea if it's of any value but just wanted to put it on your radar.
Cheers and keep up the good work! jengod (talk) 04:00, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- There are a number of good sources for old maps of Florida. I have used several from Florida Memory Maps for articles in Wikipedia. Other sources include UF Map & Imagery Library Collections and Exploring Florida Maps from USF. Donald Albury 11:55, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Micronation | better sourcing
Hi, I'm fairly new to wikipedia and you critiqued my sourcing I was planning on editing/correcting them but before I do so I wanted to ask your advise on better citation, most relevantly on the Micronation page; I was hoping you could mentor me on this since my official Wikipedia mentor appears to be absent or inactive. For a few citation errors I can see I made for myself such as the wrong placement for the reference to the fictional country of Ruritania(I placed the reference next to the wrong Ruritania tag), but others are less clear such as Aynvaul being *listed* as attending MicroCon in 2017 where I cited a list of attending members. I see the issue with springer were it mentions them and their location as being a minute mention, but this one I feel would warrant just a mention if it is an attendance list? (correct me if I am wrong). As for the others you mentioned (full citation needed) that they need a more specific citation, these other ones are interviews by Vice and PBS(?) I imagine timestamped links instead of links to the interviews? Furthermore how would I be more specific for references that would satisfy the full citation for website references? -Thank you for your time! ScholarGray13 (talk) 16:39, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- @ScholarGray13: I am copying this over to Talk:Micronation, where other editors who contribute to the article can see it and comment, if they wish. Let us carry on the conversation there. - Donald Albury 19:05, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
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Comment from 69.159.70.172
Donald Albury -
Sir - Why do none of you supposed ' administrators ' ever do any proper checking yourself - ??? -
If you had a ctually read KARL WALLENDA page down to bottom you would see references to what you say is missing - ?!?!?-
Please try to do some work yourself and not always relay on all of the additions from people who only enter proper / right / correct data - US - !!! -
You must be well aware at you advanced senior age ( we appear to be older than you are from your bad photo ) where there are many areas where no ' reference ' is now available this many years after the fact or can be attested to / found anymore -
It is only in recent years where Wikipedia has ' demanded ' this which is downright dumb / stupid / wrong to expect people to provide -
More than 70 % of what appears on most Wikipedia pages show no reference - !!! -
However, what you seek is right in front of you on KARL WALLENDA page at end - ???-
We knew him having worked with RBB&B Circus over time and guarantee all which was added is absolutely correct -
Therefore, please now restore our addition as entered -
Thank You Very Much -
- 69.159.70.172 - 69.159.70.172 (talk) 15:58, 29 July 2024 (UTC) -
- Responded on IPs talk page. - Donald Albury 17:03, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Douglass
Thank you for the correction. Shipsview (talk) 20:22, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
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List of fossil sites up for deletion
I would like to see your thoughts on the deletion proposal for this list: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of fossil sites.
Also, if you know how to find the archive of the responses to the previous deletion proposal (circa 2017?), I would appreciate any help locating it. Elriana (talk) 06:41, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Elriana: I see two old proposals to merge this into other articles, in 2008, and in 2010. I do not see any prior page for an AfD for this article, nor any notice of an AfD in 2017 in the page histories of the article page or this talk page. A search for "Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of fossil sites" finds only the current AfD, so it does not look like any formal AfD has been previously proposed for this article. - Donald Albury 13:22, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. That’s really weird. I can see where I might have mistaken the merge discussion for a deletion discussion, since I was mostly reading them to find previous criticisms. But I really thought one of the discussions was more recent than that. Elriana (talk) 05:45, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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