User talk:Curbon7/Archive 2021
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2021
January 2021
Hi Curbon7 ... I was advised that it would likely take three months for my submission to be reviewed. It was reviewed in ~2 hours. I've been working on it for nearly six months and I've hewed very closely to Wikipedia's standards. There are, no doubt, improvements to be made, but I would respectfully ask the following:
1- How thoroughly was my page reviewed in about a 2-hour timeframe? There's approx. 20 pages of information (printed) as per my submission. This is curious.
2- I would kindly appreciate examples of your various critiques - and, to be sure, I welcome these opportunities to improve. But, in providing me firm examples, I could properly and effectively address the issues (and in a timely fashion).
Again, I ask these questions with respect.
Thank you (and Happy New Year!),
Ryan (Ryancoke2020 (talk) 03:12, 31 December 2020 (UTC))
- Ryancoke2020, Firstly to clear up with you some info of the AfC process. It can take up to 3 months for your draft to be reviewed. However, that doesn't mean it WILL take 3 months. We have over 3,000 drafts waiting for review, and we get around (I'm estimating) 500 new drafts a day. There aren't very many of us reviewers; we're just volunteers, we have lives too. Because of that, drafts are reviewed in a quick, but efficient and accurate manner. The reason I got to yours so quickly is because I patrol the newest created drafts; essentially, I act as a filter, either accepting the drafts are clearly notably and encyclopedic or declining the drafts that are otherwise.
- In all honesty, it took me about a minute of review to decide that I would decline your draft, as there are obvious and glaring issues with it. First and foremost, you have way way way too many sources. Because of this, I can't actually validate which sources are relevant or not because, like I said before, we have a lot of other drafts to get to as well. You should read WP:CITEOVERKILL for that point.
- Secondly, your draft is non-neutral in tone, and frankly read like a bit of an advertisement for the subject. Phrases like "With an enchanted resonance" and "Tomos' mission from the outset has been to present a message of hope, optimism and socially constructive and progressive ideas through his words." serve to WP:PUFF the subject. See WP:NPOV.
- Thirdly, this didn't play a role in the draft's declination but since we're here I might as well bring it up, your draft is formatted very incorrectly. Use the articles of other similar subjects, such as Neal Stephenson or Edward Neumeier, as examples of how to properly format this kind of draft. Curbon7 (talk) 03:51, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- Curbon7 - Thank you, kindly, for the response. I will concede the fact re: the non-neutral language in some places (I will tidy this up), but I did make an effort to play it down the middle, so to speak. Regardless, I will edit accordingly.
- That said, I'm having trouble squaring the need for an encyclopedic approach, but simultaneously, not wanting a very well-sourced page. I'd posit that, if the sourcing is relevant, it's, ipso facto, germane. So, say I slash the number of sources, what's preventing the next reviewer from stating that additional citations are needed? It seems arbitrary or capricious, and a potential no-win situation (for me). Ultimately, I will heed your advice, but I believe it important to properly voice my concerns. I trust you can appreciate this. Ryan (Ryancoke2020 (talk) 04:28, 31 December 2020 (UTC))
- Ryancoke2020, Good sourcing is needed. However, having every statement cited by 8 different references is unnecessary and overkill. Use other pages as examples of a baseline you should aim for. Curbon7 (talk) 04:32, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- Curbon7 - That's fair, but respectfully, I'm not interested in theatrics or histrionics. Just the facts. It's simply not correct that every statement cited has 8 different references. In all sincerity, I am only looking for fair consideration. I'll leave it here for now and, as I mentioned previously, I will heed your recommendations. I genuinely appreciate these, in addition to the work you do. Ryan (Ryancoke2020 (talk) 04:43, 31 December 2020 (UTC))
- Ryancoke2020, "premiered at London’s Raindance Film Festival in 2019.[1][2][3][4][5][6][10][11][12][13][27]" ; "pondering what truly matters in life.[1][2][23][24][28][29]" ; "Tomos decided to try out his material under the Probably Tomfoolery brand.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][16][17]"
- To ease your concern of another reviewer declining because of not enough sourcing, don't worry, there will be enough. Good job so far, your effort and enthusiasm are appreciated! Curbon7 (talk) 04:54, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- Curbon7 - That's fair, but respectfully, I'm not interested in theatrics or histrionics. Just the facts. It's simply not correct that every statement cited has 8 different references. In all sincerity, I am only looking for fair consideration. I'll leave it here for now and, as I mentioned previously, I will heed your recommendations. I genuinely appreciate these, in addition to the work you do. Ryan (Ryancoke2020 (talk) 04:43, 31 December 2020 (UTC))
- Ryancoke2020, Good sourcing is needed. However, having every statement cited by 8 different references is unnecessary and overkill. Use other pages as examples of a baseline you should aim for. Curbon7 (talk) 04:32, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Curbon7... Thank you, very much, for the kind, encouraging words in your previous message. They're genuinely appreciated! I've re-submitted my page (for review) after making changes - as per your recommendations. It may still require some finessing, though I do believe it's more in line with your expectations. If not, I will endeavor to improve all aspects, as necessary. Once again, thank you for your hard work and diligence. Ryan (Ryancoke2020 (talk) 15:20, 2 January 2021 (UTC))
Hey Curbon7! Just a quick update informing you that I've made many more changes, as per your recommendations. I believe the page looks substantially better, though I'm a bit partial. Again, I'm open to any additional advice/critiques, and humbly, I must admit that you were ultimately correct. Indeed, there was too much editorializing and far too many citations/references. I mean, there may still be instances where things aren't perfect, but I think I've made good progress. Thank you - truly! - for your help, guidance and encouragement. It's genuinely appreciated!
Ryan (Ryancoke2020 (talk) 19:24, 4 January 2021 (UTC))
Hey Curbon7... Welcome back! I hope all is well and no damage was done to your account.
When you're afforded the opportunity, could you let me know if you'll be the one reviewing the resubmission of my draft or is it more likely that it'll be undertaken by someone else? Thank you!
Kindly,
Ryan (Ryancoke2020 (talk) 03:32, 13 January 2021 (UTC))
Regarding Florida's Legislative districts
Hey Curbon7. I saw that you recently created Florida's 14th State House district. Do you plan on doing the rest of the districts for both Senate and House districts? I know someone who was making Senate districts for a couple of states who goes by the user name Blizzardwind, but he was taking a break from doing that. Dillon251992 (talk) 02:28, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Dillon251992: Yeah I'm still planning on making them. I've also done House 1-13 as well. It's just such a time consuming process since it takes about 2-3 hours to make a district page, and there are 120 House districts and 40 Senate districts. I'm aiming to do 1 article per day, which will take about half a year (with a fixed deadline being the Census redistricting for obvious reasons lol). Curbon7 (talk) 02:51, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Yangon Thu Michelle is an advocate for women empowerment who stands on her own feet. She produces her own videos, co-founded Myanmar Women’s Self Defense Center, and is a country lead for Myanmar in the Bangkok-based Wedu Global social enterprise. Her videos and interviews aim to support women in Myanmar and she does so with no expectations of benefits or rewards. This is why she is someone who should have a page on Wikipedia.
She does not focus on fame while endeavouring for women’s rights and human rights and her efforts have been documented in interviews and articles by various media outlets. In addition, we have added a citation where State-owned media has written about her work. Her wiki page was constructed based on these facts. Thus, we kindly request an AFC review to be conducted.
No doubt that there is reliable sources and well cited. Try to read Myanmar language, don't translate from google. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burmese King (talk • contribs) 08:31, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- Burmese King, (1) Read WP:COI and make sure to declare any potential conflict of interest you may have with the subject. (2) Read WP:NBIO, WP:C, and WP:NPOV to know exactly why this draft was declined. (3) I am suspecting this account is a sockpuppet. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Nyiminsan. Curbon7 (talk) 09:05, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- Curbon7 1, I do not need to do COI because this is no paid or related with the subject. 2, I already read about the rules and regulations about what you mention. 3, I notice this article was decline and author ask for suggestion in group of wiki editor in Myanmar. That's why I got link and clarify what is need to trim and improve community. I do not know how to respond your suspected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burmese King (talk • contribs) 09:13, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- Noting that User:Burmese King was confirmed by a CheckUser as a sockpuppet. Curbon7 (talk) 00:48, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Curbon7 1, I do not need to do COI because this is no paid or related with the subject. 2, I already read about the rules and regulations about what you mention. 3, I notice this article was decline and author ask for suggestion in group of wiki editor in Myanmar. That's why I got link and clarify what is need to trim and improve community. I do not know how to respond your suspected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burmese King (talk • contribs) 09:13, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Check those pages too should be on Wiki?
Check the below links, do you think this is also meet wiki guide line as well? May Zune Win, Su Htat, Lar Phar Dee — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burmese King (talk • contribs) 10:28, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- Burmese King, The third one is definitely notable. The second one is likely notable. I think the first one is potentially non-notable, so I have tagged it as such. Curbon7 (talk) 10:34, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- I am really curious, I do not copy the content for the draft Yangon Thu Michelle, she is the same as above mention pages. But she is more focus on community. I do not understand, why can't she on Wiki? The likely notable one you mention is travel and tour company owner, travel blogger. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burmese King (talk • contribs) 10:40, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- Burmese King, I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to say here. I'll leave this draft to another reviewer to judge. I don't want to pull the plug on it because there aren't very many Burma-related articles or editors; however, it is very marginal in notability, if even that, in its current state. Curbon7 (talk) 13:21, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- I am really curious, I do not copy the content for the draft Yangon Thu Michelle, she is the same as above mention pages. But she is more focus on community. I do not understand, why can't she on Wiki? The likely notable one you mention is travel and tour company owner, travel blogger. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burmese King (talk • contribs) 10:40, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- Curbon7 My apology for any inconvenience that you face with. I am helping the community, my friend. I am a strong activist who supports local women's empowerment and she is the only one who can do it effectively. I noticed that Yangon Thu Michelle was on Wikipedia page and it will support her work more in the future.
- You can check the log, 12:12, 4 June 2020 Phyo WP talk contribs m 6,281 bytes 0 Phyo WP moved page Draft:Yangon Thu Michelle to Yangon Thu Michelle without leaving a redirect: move to mainspace, the article is well-sourced & may meet WP:BIO.
- After a few months later, the user name with MrsSooozyTurtle come out and moved the page to draft because of multiple articles (slightly different spelling) reason.
- You can check the log at there " 01:05, 19 December 2020 MrsSnoozyTurtle talk contribs m 6,388 bytes 0 MrsSnoozyTurtle moved page Yangon Thu Michelle to Draft:Yangon Thu Michelle: Multiple articles (with slightly different spellings) by the same author for declined drafts is WP:GAMING the system. Please allow the proper AfC review process to take place. (via script)"
- What I really understand is, it only needs to remove the duplicate page that appears in Wiki. But, there is no need for AFC submission and move it to draft space. So, please re-consider my submission and help me or guide me on how to improve this article I created. I want her article on wikipedia, because she appeared even in the government-issued newspaper, reputable media, broadcast TV, and award winner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burmese King (talk • contribs) 15:20, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- Noting that User:Burmese King was confirmed by a CheckUser as a sockpuppet. Curbon7 (talk) 00:48, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- What I really understand is, it only needs to remove the duplicate page that appears in Wiki. But, there is no need for AFC submission and move it to draft space. So, please re-consider my submission and help me or guide me on how to improve this article I created. I want her article on wikipedia, because she appeared even in the government-issued newspaper, reputable media, broadcast TV, and award winner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burmese King (talk • contribs) 15:20, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Request on 02/01/2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Mylene_97
Hi. My request on the article Draft:Church of San Pietro Apostolo was declined because of lack of sources. As suggested by you I added now another source. Unfortunately is a very small town and is difficult to find many sources. I did my best. The article I created is for a university project. Hope in your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mylene 97 (talk • contribs) 11:14, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- Mylene 97, I'll take the gamble and accept it, though I don't have the time to do so right now. I'll mark it for review so another reviewer doesn't decline it by mistake, and I'll accept it tomorrow afternoon EST. Curbon7 (talk) 13:37, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello! Thanks for reviewing the draft page for Draft:Jeanette Davis (2) recently. I saw that you declined the page because Draft:Jeanette Davis already exists. I am a college professor and this semester my students did a project researching influential academics and writing wiki pages about them. My student wrote the Jeanette Davis (2) page and is trying to figure out the next steps. The Draft:Jeanette Davis page was declined due to not having enough sources, while Draft: Jeanette Davis (2) has substantially more sources and I think is much more likely to be considered a biography of a notable scientist. Can you let me know what the best next steps are? Should we transfer the text from Draft:Jeanette Davis (2) over to Draft:Jeanette Davis? At that point could it be reconsidered? I am also going to reach out to the editor who declined Draft:Jeanette Davis to ask for their preferred next steps. Thanks for any point in the right direction - I am new to wikipedia but excited to see Jeanette Davis represented in a biography. Thanks for your help! -- Csoconn (talk) 22:57, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- Csoconn, Hi again! Sorry for not getting back to you the first time you messaged me, I was on vacation at the time so I wasn't really checking Wikipedia. Honestly, the fellas at the AfC help desk are probably much more capable of helping you in this situation that I am, so please message there. Curbon7 (talk) 00:32, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Curbon7 Please don't be sorry; I'M sorry to have spammed you during the holiday season! I don't think I realized that I had already bugged you - many apologies! I'm juggling a few pages and have been forgetting what I commented on where, heh. Luckily, this issue got resolved via the AfC help desk, as you suggested. Woohoo! And thanks so much! Csoconn (talk) 16:15, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
Your response about my draft on Draft:Friedrich Porges
Thank you, Curbon 7, for your response and good suggestions. You can see the presently existing Wikipedia page on Friedrich Porges here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Porges I will rework the draft, esp. in regard to the inline citations, and then contact you again. Best regards, DRG555 DRG555 (talk) 06:21, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- DRG555, Since the page already exists, please edit on the mainspace article, Friedrich Porges, instead of in the draft. Curbon7 (talk) 06:24, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
Done and dusted Draft:Omah Lay
Hi, I'm done working on the Draft:Omah Lay page you requested. Kindly review the Attih Soul page.
Amaekuma (talk) 12:23, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
Resubmitted Draft:Anthony Holten
Hi. Removed Amazon and Facebook citations you mentioned, added more citations. Can also expand page with more detailed info and try to find a photograph to add, but waiting to see if approved first. Could you re-review at your convenience? Thank you and Happy New Year. HistoricalAccountings (talk) 17:38, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- HistoricalAccountings, Since I declined this draft over a month ago, I ask that you go to the AfC Help Desk instead. Curbon7 (talk) 00:18, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Greetings. Several editors did some expansion and improvements to this entry. I think it would be good and appropriate to include. Happy New Year! FloridaArmy (talk) 01:21, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- FloridaArmy, I'm sorry, but I only take re-review requests if it's within one month from when I declined it. Curbon7 (talk) 01:46, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Original Barnstar | |
Your diligence, your hard work and your encouragement are noticed and thoroughly appreciated! Thank you! Ryancoke2020 (talk) 19:29, 4 January 2021 (UTC) |
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Could you please review my article
Hey.
I noticed you have reviewed a few pages in your time at Wikipedia- I am a beginner to Wikipedia and have just finished writing my first article, now the draft is pending for review. It'd be great if you could check it over! I am apprehensive that it will contain mistakes and I will need to wait another few weeks/months before getting another review.
Many thanks, Apaul291003 (talk) 11:21, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
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- Account is back in my possession, luckily it was deactivated before any damage could be done. I'm keeping this message here for record purposes. Curbon7 (talk) 18:41, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Welcome back; unblocked. -- zzuuzz (talk) 19:13, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Request on 14:12:53, 8 January 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Aslan110
Hi, thanks for the feedback on the "Maël Péneau" page I published
I have some questions though, in order to understand why it's not admissible
1. The page is a translation from the french wikipedia, where it already exists (I also wrote the french version). Is it possible that one page is admissible in & language and not admissible in another ? https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma%C3%ABl_P%C3%A9neau
2. Some of The criterias for music composers/performers (according to the guidelines) seem to apply :
- criteria #4 : Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country Source : http://stoneyroads.com/2014/03/bromance-records-tour-wrapping-up-with-louisahhh-maelstrom/
- criteria #10 : Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc. Source : performance for ARTE TV (french/german national TV channel) https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/087035-000-A/louisahhh-b2b-maelstrom-a-arte-mix-o-trabendo-2018/
- criteria #1 : Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself. here is some sources but there is more source 1 : https://mixmag.net/feature/june-2017-8-electro-releases-you-need-to-hear-this-month source 2 : https://ra.co/reviews/22763 source 3 : https://djmag.com/features/back-yours-maelstrom source 4 : https://inverted-audio.com/mix/maelstrom/
Could you please let me know as to why these criterias are not sufficient ?
Also, I found a number of similar pages related to techno producers and DJs (some with less relevant sources than the ones I used for this page) so I'm wondering why these pages have been deemed admissible but not the one I've submitted : - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Servant - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hacker - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVS1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aslan110 (talk • contribs) 08:17, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
thanks,
Aslan110 (talk) 14:12, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello Mister , i am journalist from north Macedonia and i dont understand why you declined one wikipedia page,its called Darko Kondev , he is a notable handball player and i dont understand the reason why the text is not approved and can you help me with adding a photo in the page , and if you search on cirilic leather you will see that theres already a page for Дарко Кондев, please help me and approve the text thank you very much Stevanstevan64 (talk) 19:16, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Stevanstevan64, As I noted, the subject is notable per WP:NSPORT. However, the main issue with the page is that there are not enough non-primary sources. Also, since I declined this page over a month ago, I cannot take a re-review request. Curbon7 (talk) 21:18, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello. I would like your opinion on the article Algeria (disambiguation) which was mentioned for quick deletion.
Indeed, there is a big difference between the name of the state "Algeria" and the city of the capital "Algiers", and therefore there are two articles of disambiguation: Algiers (disambiguation) and Algeria (disambiguation).
I hope you will take this remark into consideration and make the necessary changes to maintain the article Algeria (disambiguation). Cordially. --Kalimoun (talk) 10:25, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
Articles, Josh Hawley User:JgPville/sandbox
Thanks for your rapid response. I am puzzled, though, by your reasons.
My edit is a brief summary of an essay in today's New York Times on a topic related to recent news and Ms. Stewart's published book. So I think the source is both reliable and verifiable.
As for context, I was not sure whether to add the Stewart citation as a gloss on the existing citation to Hawley's Christianity Today article. If you think that summarizing Stewart's argument goes beyond the typical WP entry, then I would suggest simply adding her essay to footnote 154's citation of Kilgore's NY Times item from 2019 (which is quoted in the Hawley article in WP as follows: "Hawley wrote in a 2012 essay: 'Government serves Christ’s kingdom rule; this is its purpose. And Christians' purpose in politics should be to advance the kingdom of God — to make it more real, more tangible, more present.'").
I think that Stewart's essay provides further, updated context for Kilgore's quotation. Stewart's quotation is as "verifiable" as the quotation from Kilgore (indeed, they may be quoting from different sections of the same source). In any event, the information value to WP of adding further context to Kilgore can be met by simply citing her essay ("see also Katherine Stewart ...") without quoting her, particularly if you feel the quotations are redundant.JgPville (talk) 17:44, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- JgPville, As it stands, this draft is unencyclopedic, per WP:NOT. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection on information; if this subject is significant and relevant to Hawley, please insert it into his article, Josh Hawley. If you do so, ensure you adhere by WP:NPOV guidelines. If you don't, or if this event is not significant, the content would likely be removed from the article by another editor. Curbon7 (talk) 20:04, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- I feel that there is a moving target here, proceeding from reliability and context (despite similar secondary and primary sources to another WP entry on Hawley) to Point of View. The suggestion of a non-neutral POV surprises me because I was careful to limit myself in descriptors to two adjectives, "religious" and "neo-Calvinist", the former rather obvious from the quotations used and the latter attributed to Kuyper in the WP article on him.
- Perhaps I should go further, while keeping neutrality, and offer an edit to the last sentence of the article. The "Christians' purpose in politics" quote probably belongs in the main text, not in the "Personal Life" filler, as this quote and its linking of his faith and politics is not simply "personal"; it is, by his frequent spoken and written affirmation, very public. This is not a POV issue; to ignore the affinity between JH's particular vision of Christianity and his public positions is to ignore his essence. To do so would be like writing about many British and American abolitionists in the 19th century without noting the influence of evangelical Christianity on their political beliefs and dedication. With both JH and the abolitionists, the public life of their personal Christian vision should be noted, regardless of whether one finds that vision compelling or strident. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JgPville (talk • contribs) 21:27, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Request for help re: Draft:Thomas Masterson, Midshipman Virginia State Navy
Hello Curbon7, thank you for your feedback regarding my very first article attempt. As you can see, I'm having some learning-curve issues - so thank you for your patience! I have added the reason that this person is notable - namely that he is one of the very few naval officers who served at least three years and thus is eligible for The Society of the Cincinnati. I'd appreciate any tips on how to get this article submission "right". I've included several secondary sources which mention his service. Best regards, Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by MMWOOD1958 (talk • contribs) 16:43, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello Dear @Curbon7:, I am writing as the author of an article - Draft:Ako Akhalaia. I, myself, am One of the contributors and editors of Georgian Wikipedia. It’s been a while since my submitted article is in the drafts section. You say that person - Ako Akhalaia does not meet the recognition criteria, and the article needs additional resources. Fifteen certified links accompany the article. Here are the leading media agencies of Georgia, the Public Broadcaster, etc. He is Also the official Representative of the Cannes Lions Festival in Georgia + Publisher of Harvard Business Review. This person is the founder of the most popular Marketing magazine in Georgia. His awareness in this area is very high. You can quickly check and verify this. We want to make sure that he can be found in the English Wikipedia as well, so if you do not mind, please, review the article again and help us as colleagues publish the article. I really appreciate any help you can provide.--გიორგი ჩუბინიძე (talk) 21:15, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Asking for help for Draft:ESam
@Curbon7: Hello dear Curbon7, Unfortunately, Draft:ESam article declined again by Worldbruce. I would be grateful if you could guide me. Ahassannezhad (talk) 18:10, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
February 2021
I saw that you're interested in reviewing Eva's Wikipedia draft. I did some changes to the article. Can you check it back? I'll continue improving the article as well. Thanks friend! --Palaangelino (talk) 13:58, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- Palaangelino, due to IRL time-constraints, I'm not really actively reviewing drafts for the time being. Sorry. Curbon7 (talk) 20:36, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- I solved it, thank you. --Palaangelino (talk) 20:38, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
March 2021
Request for help on Draft:Gábor Klaniczay
I would like to ask you to help with the article Draft:Gábor Klaniczay. I started to write this article at the same time as the one on István Rév - an article which you declined in mid-January. In the Rév article I supplied the missing references practically same day, and it was speedily moved to namespace by Tagishsimon. I would like to ask you to have a look at the Draft:Gábor Klaniczay article now, and advise what additions, changes would be necesary there. Best: StB (talk) 20:23, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- StB, due to IRL time-constraints, I'm not really actively reviewing drafts for the time being. Sorry. Please go to the AfC Help Desk if you need help with something. Curbon7 (talk) 21:54, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello there, I would like some help with the article Draft:Dj Kaywise. The article was rejected by you some months ago. I have since removed the words that sounded like adverts and bias. Please kindly check it out again and please help with what can be added or removed. Thanks a lot Olakunle Rufai (talk) 16:51, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
April 2021
Request for help on Draft:Global Defense Corp
Hello sir, you have declined to publish a page I recently added. I added genuine reference from other sources to show the newspaper has genuine follower, reader and references to the global defense corp. It shows what is global defense corp and their published articles and references to the global defense corp.
Please approve the page. Thank you kindly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dingo2021 (talk • contribs)
- Dingo2021 The subject's website, a primary source, is not a valid source, per WP:RS. Curbon7 (talk) 07:49, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Draft:Adin Ross (streamer) article draft
Thanks for your insight, despite the streamer being pretty popular and trendy at the moment, I realized that there aren't enough reliable articles on him. I will wait until I see more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sedatedsucc (talk • contribs) 21:37, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
Your edit to User talk:Tom.doyers
Hi, just a customary note to say that you shouldn't really leave a second warning note for the same edit - as the bot posted one before you; ultimately only one should suffice. The user appears to be a compromised account also, so has been reported as appropriate. Thanks Nightfury 10:30, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Nightfury, yeah I meant to overwrite the bot warning due to the context of the edit in question, but I forgot to actually do it lol. Curbon7 (talk) 01:09, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Why in an article about a novel does the novel not count as a reliable source? According to Wikipedia's guidelines it's a primary source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uanime5 (talk • contribs) 6:51 pm, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- Uanime5, Your draft is completely unsourced. It has already been rejected, which means it will not be considered further. Curbon7 (talk) 23:32, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Review Please
Hello,
I have edited as you requested and done what was required. Hopefully all is well?
My article: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mahnaz_Malik
Thank you very much. Njinfo10109 (talk) 14:53, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
- Njinfo10109, Since I declined this draft over a month ago, I ask that you go to the AfC Help Desk instead. Curbon7 (talk) 22:06, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Oh okay, but it says it's still reviewing. So you can't review it again? Thank you for the reply. Njinfo10109 (talk) 15:06, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- Njinfo10109, the one month time period is my personal policy, other reviewers might handle things differently. If you wish to resubmit your draft, another reviewer will get to it. Curbon7 (talk) 16:39, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
Of course, thank you. I have just received a review again and sadly and decline, but not the same reasons as you mentioned before.
I have to work on it again, thank you very much.
If you can give me any feedback of what more needs to be on the draft, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank you very much for taking the time to reply. Njinfo10109 (talk) 19:09, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
May 2021
Request a Rereview on Draft:Amir Mohammad Hosseini
Hi there Curbon7 You have recently declined the above-mentioned article for lack of inline citations and not citing sources using footnotes. since then I have corrected all the citations and added more sources using footnotes, if you could kindly Rereview the article it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Atabak Mken (talk • contribs) 16:08, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
Curbon7 Can you Please reply to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atabak Mken (talk • contribs) 20:19, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Atabak Mken, your draft has been resubmitted for review. Another reviewer will get to it eventually. Curbon7 (talk) 21:54, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Hey, I was reviewing this draft that you had rejected earlier. I saw two book reviews in Hindi [1], [2] that seem to contribute to WP:Author for me. The last set of sources about that award is surely garbage; But still might contribute to WP:BASIC. Wanted to know your thoughts before cleaning it and may be accepting it. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 15:43, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- Nomadicghumakkad, You having my blessing, but I'm overall impartial to this draft. Curbon7 (talk) 22:36, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
Must see once
Hello @Curbon7:, I want to make Emiway Bantai. I tried once before to create an article Emiway Bantai (Indian rapper), but it was deleted, which probably would not have passed GNG at that time. Then I found a Machayenge article from Emiway on Wiki. When I checked that article, it turned out that it was created by CptViraj. He is also an NPR. When I talked to him about this, he said that he was previously associated with this subject. So now he does not want to make it. Then I saw their sandbox which was made to make User:CptViraj/sandbox/Emiway Bantai. Recently I have prepared an article on their sandbox. Therefore, I will ask you to review it. Since its main title is Protected by the Administrator, I will ask you to move it to Emiway. Must see once. Thank you 2402:3A80:10CA:7818:C024:C6CC:B8CC:5E1E (talk) 10:18, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
@Curbon7:, I am waiting for your reply. 2402:3A80:10C5:7807:E52F:490A:CE8F:4B74 (talk) 14:15, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Pinging CptViraj. Curbon7 (talk) 21:48, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Article redirect
It is to be noted that the article Thiyyar history that has created on 8th May, as there were 10 articles of the same topic has already been redirected to the main article Ezhava. No merge requests are to be made and might be a part of the long-running sockpuppetry based on the PR work done by Adithya Kiran Chekavar & Vishnu vaaish. R.COutlander07@talk 12:44, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Also, the primary sources specifically the Raj-era] references fail the criteria WP:RS. R.COutlander07@talk 12:51, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Third-person Story
Yeah, it was one of the weirdest things I've read all day. The least abnormal thing about that whole page was the lead sentence "This article about events that happened to me, is written in a third-person narrative". After that, it was all "What is this (probable) blog like fiction?" the whole way down (and the "sourcing", egads). Regardless, it clearly failed "what Wikipedia is" and many other guidelines since it was an unverifiable personal account of an event in their personal life. Odd that you got the notification for it instead of the creator and I'm sorry for bothering you with it, but glad it gave you a chuckle. Zinnober9 (talk) 06:16, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
June 2021
Delete Article
Emil Şahin, delete the deletion process, we made corrections in the article and gave references, please keep this in mind213.172.93.77 (talk) 11:14, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- The article is essentially a carbon copy of the previous 5 versions that have been created in the last 2 weeks. As for the references, most of them are not reliable, per the standards established at WP:RS. Furthermore, as was covered in the AfD, this fails notability as established at WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. Maybe this singer will be notable at some point. Is he notable now? No, he isn't.
- Another point that I noticed are the cross-language wikis. This chap has articles in both Russian and Azerbaijani. However, if I look a little deeper, I can see that the Russian article is first of all created by your IP range, and second of all being PRODed. The Azerbaijani article was also created by the same guy who created this current version.
- Third point, seriously stop deleting the CSD templates. Curbon7 (talk) 11:29, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Delete Article
Hello, we created this wikipedia article and it was previously written under the name Emil Şahin. We have enriched it with existing references. and it should be registered as Emil Shahin as the proper title, so we create it with this name as we cannot change the title of the old one.Rza835 (talk) 11:37, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- Rza835, See the comment I left in the above section. Curbon7 (talk) 11:37, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Yes, I understand you, but our composer asked us to create an article for him and he is sent to be deleted every time. I ask you to help me to make it right for meRza835 (talk) 11:40, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- Curbon7,will you be helpful?213.172.93.77 (talk) 12:09, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- Check the ANI thread. Curbon7 (talk) 12:13, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for your edits on Raven Baxter
Hey, thank you for contributing to the Raven Baxter page and talk. It's been frustrating beating back the promo/peacock language that was constantly being added, which had almost completely died down until apparently news of her earning her PhD spawned a new wave of pushing dubious qualifications. It also looks like some sources choose to closely paraphrase her personal website bio (like the Buffalo Rising piece that even kept her "molecular scientist" title...), which is unfortunate since it propagates self-marketing that shouldn't even be necessary for her field. We run into the same problem over and over of perpetuating credential inflation on so many science-adjacent bios... [3] [4] Also, if you're interested in creating or expanding academic BLP content, my user page has a bunch of article-less likely-NPROF-notable STEM women and minorities I've come across through looking at coauthors of academics in AfDs. Best, JoelleJay (talk) 03:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- JoelleJay, no problem, I'm glad to help! Regarding your last sentence, there's too much I don't know about scientist bios to be of any usefulness there, plus AfC and my own queue of pages to create is keeping me pretty busy ([5] This book has around 5,000 people in it, all of whom are notable and most of whom don't have articles; it's also a slog to find info on most of these people since historical records from 180 years ago are very sparse in mentions).
- I'm offering you a counter-offer, though! Since you seem really knowledgeable regarding reliable sources in general, but also academic notability, why don't you submit an application to join us at AfC. We get a decent traffic of academic drafts (everything from professors who think they're the next Einstein to science and math concepts that I don't even pretend to understand), and we'd love to have your help! :) Curbon7 (talk) 04:39, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not pulling the "decent traffic of academic drafts" part out of my ass either! These three drafts were submitted literally in the past few hours. Cheers! Curbon7 (talk) 04:55, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Curbon7, I actually have been considering applying for AfC, so thank you for the invitation! I'll apply soon! JoelleJay (talk) 21:42, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not pulling the "decent traffic of academic drafts" part out of my ass either! These three drafts were submitted literally in the past few hours. Cheers! Curbon7 (talk) 04:55, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Please Help Me.
Hi, @Curbon7: I Created Article in few Minutes ago named Balakrishna Bhatt But once's Moved Draft :Balakrishna Bhatt . I'm aware about that You a're a Afc Reviewer.please see this Article and Can you explain me which work I n't done from this Article.Balakrishna Bhatt is a Indian most famous Novelist. Best Regards. Serious Black@Contribute 05:05, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- MXX8, The page is almost entirely unsourced. Articles need to have reliable sourcing, per WP:RS. Curbon7 (talk) 08:31, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Recheck request of two similar title article.
Please don't be confused with Bagal caste with Bagal (surname). Bagal is just a Heteronyms word. The word Bagal pronounced as Baagal in Bagal (surname) article, while the word Bagal pronounced as Baagaal in Bagal caste and their content is different to each other.
Need your valuable suggestion. Thank you, MaxA-Bot (talk) 09:59, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- MaxA-Bot, the comment I left was just a note to other reviewers. Your draft's name is Bagal; however, the page Bagal already exists in mainspace as a redirect to Bagal (surname). This isn't anything wrong with your draft, it's just that there can't be two pages with the same name, obviously.
- Luckily it's a really easy situation to solve! If your draft makes it to the point that it is to be moved to mainspace, then an admin will simply delete the existing redirect page and move your draft in it's place. Curbon7 (talk) 11:15, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
I was confused. Thanks for your response. MaxA-Bot (talk) 23:40, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
Repetitive rejection of article (Draft:Shyam Metalics and Energy)
Which source according to you is non reliable??? Can you please point it out??? BNJ Nilam (talk) 01:22, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- BNJ Nilam, As I stated in the draft, the subject's website, as well as any press releases from them, are considered primary sources, which are unreliable. Curbon7 (talk) 01:26, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
There are article published by renowned media outlets like The Times and MoneyControl... No company funded press release has been used as a source... BNJ Nilam (talk) 01:46, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- BNJ Nilam, It doesn't matter what other sources there are. The draft was declined because it references the company's website and some other primary sources, both of which are not reliable sources. The independent sources are fine, those aren't what is being discussed here. Curbon7 (talk) 02:04, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
I have again resubmitted the article with all the necessary changes... I hope this time there won't be any problem... BNJ Nilam (talk) 18:21, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Nikki Fried
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Nikki Fried you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of FredModulars -- FredModulars (talk) 09:21, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
I wonder if you would take another look at your decline rationale, please? FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 10:30, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Timtrent, Seemed a bit puffy at time of review. Notability was never an issue, since "first woman to lead Rotary International" is a fine claim to fame. Moot point now that it's been accepted. Curbon7 (talk) 21:19, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Well, not entirely moot. Your rationale made the author wonder what to do. I was hoping that my comments (in the history or possibly at the AFC help desk) might give you inspiration towards offering a little more assistance.
- They did a subsequent good job, which is why I accepted it. I hope it will be enhanced further. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 06:11, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- Timtrent, Ah you're right I should've left a comment on the draft. My bad! Curbon7 (talk) 06:13, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- I never had a day where I did not learn how I might have done something better. Thank you for receiving my comments so well. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 06:19, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- Timtrent, Ah you're right I should've left a comment on the draft. My bad! Curbon7 (talk) 06:13, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Nikki Fried
The article Nikki Fried you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Nikki Fried for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of FredModulars -- FredModulars (talk) 02:01, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
I've pondered whether I should do the GA review for this, since I've read up enough on MTG to have a good enough understanding on what she's about to write this; however, the act of calling someone a "raving lunatic" (although I later redacted this, she doesn't make my blood boil like Trump) probably means I can't approach a review with a neutral point of view. Any thoughts? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:46, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Ritchie333, it's up to you honestly. I would trust your judgement either way. Curbon7 (talk) 20:54, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
2022 Florida United States Senate Race
You left a comment on my talkpage saying that information I added to 2022 United States Senate election in Florida was wrong, if the date of someone's term is specified (for ex. Donald Trump, 45th President of the United States (2017-2021)) then why would you write "Former" in the heading. Also if a former Governor, U.S. Representative, or Senator endorses a candidate generally on the endorsement it will say either the number of their term (for ex. In California my Governor Gavin Newsom is the 40th Governor of California) or it will say former in front of their name if they are a former Senator or U.S. Representative. There is never a seperate heading for Former U.S. Senators apart from U.S. Senators broadly. Also "Former Executive Branch Officials" isn't a real position while "Executive Branch Official", the former is an adjective that adds onto the position title. Can you please revert the edit and remove the notice you added to my talk page. Thanks.73.70.228.14 (talk) 08:41, 17 June 2021 (UTC)73.70.228.14
- You're right! I brain-spasmed I guess and misread it. For some reason I thought it was the reverse, that you added the word former. I undid my undo of your edit and I'm removing the warning from your page. Thank you for catching my mistake! Curbon7 (talk) 09:31, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Draft review of Judd Proctor article
Courtesy link: Draft:Judd Proctor
Dear Curbon7,
Thank you for reviewing my draft article on Judd Proctor, guitarist.
It's difficult to provide sources for a professional musician, as you may appreciate. Judd Proctor appeared on countless recordings - some of them big hits - and was a major British session-player in the 60s and 70s. Countless websites confirm his recordings and status, but there is no academic book which assesses his significance as such. An article was published about him in Pipeline, which is included in the references. There is no easy way of providing reliable sources of his music, TV and film work, other than to say what I've put in the article. Hudd Proctor did all the things included in the artivle but it is difficult to show this through academic or other articles.
Not sure what else to do if the revised version isn't acceptable. It wouldn't be appropriate that Judd Proctor should not have a wikipedia entry, which I'm sure many musicians would agree with.
The other thing would be to offer a comment on youtube references. In this case the reference is to a performance by Judd Proctor on guitar, supporting famous British comedian Spike Milligan in a duet. There's no other way to verify this other than to say Judd played the guitar then, and to ref the footage.
Thank you, Dingosmith Dingosmith 5000 (talk) 12:02, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Dingosmith 5000, my only gripes with the draft were listed in my comment, and you seem to have fixed the issue. I'll leave it to another reviewer. Curbon7 (talk) 00:07, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your prompt reply Curbon7, much appreciated. Having spent quite a bit of time drawing the obituary together it was as much a reflection of frustration at the lack of academic sources. I was a bit concerned that Wikipedia might decline to approve it for those reasons. Thank you for your help and reading the draft. Dingosmith 5000 (talk) 10:58, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Barnstar of Diligence | |
Thanks for you're work on all elections Florida! Anish631 (talk) 06:08, 18 June 2021 (UTC) |
Can you help me out with my user page?
Hey I appreciate all of your work on different elections related to Florida, I'm trying to make a better userpage and modeled some parts after yours and other userpages I've seen, but I'm unable to align everything properly and my user page is really messed up, can you help me out? Thanks in advance. Anish631 (talk) 06:17, 18 June 2021 (UTC)Anish631
- Also where did you get your really cool userboxes? Anish631 (talk) 06:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)Anish631
- Anish631, Honestly I'm not the right person to ask cause I also barely know how to format my userpage; I just kinda experimented until it kinda worked out. I mean as you can see in the "Wikittols for my use" section, I never quite figured out how to properly align the templates.
- For templates, the alignment parameters are definitely your friend, example: ((Example|left)) or ((Example|right)). Also, try moving the text below the userboxes and the map above the userboxes, if that's what you want. Also, tables like the MOS:JOBTITLES one I have form themselves around like text, unlike templates which are very rigid.
- It's mainly just experimenting until you get something you kinda like. My userpage was pretty bad until recently.
- Also the userboxes are all here: Wikipedia:Userboxes/Galleries Curbon7 (talk) 06:35, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks!, I'll take a look at the resources you sent. Anish631 (talk) 06:37, 18 June 2021 (UTC)Anish631
Question
Does this draft have a problem? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:BitMe ItsJustdancefan (talk) 15:52, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- The draft was accepted, so it in fact did not have a problem. Curbon7 (talk) 22:32, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi Curbon. I saw you moved Draft:Florida Transgender Female Athletes Bill when you were reviewing it for AfC. I've got no problem with the move or your decline. I do have, however, a question about the "apostrophe" used in the new title. There's something odd about its syntax because Draft:Fairness in Women’s Sports Act and Draft:Fairness in Women's Sports Act should be the same but for some reason they're not and I think that has to do with the apostrophe. Your version looks like a it's using a non-straight apostrophe or a fullwidth apostrophe as opposed the the straight or halfwidth apostrophe that Wikipedia seems to prefer. Perhaps you were using a smart phone or tablet when you made the edit because I've noticed my iPhone uses fullwidth apostrophes by default when I edit. They look the same or really close to straight apostrophes in the article display mode which means they're fine for reading purposes, but they do impact link syntax when used in links. It might be easier to see what I mean if you look at the code: your version looks like Draft:Fairness in Women’s Sports Act
whereas a straight/halfwidth version looks like Draft:Fairness in Women's Sports Act
. It's the space between the apostrophe and the "s" that somehow affects the link syntax, which in turn might make linking to the draft a bit confusing. The fix seems to be fairly simple and probably all that's needed is another page move, but I just want to run this by you first because I'm not sure how or if that might affect how the page is entered on any AfC category or log pages. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:27, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Marchjuly, sure sounds good! I literally copy-pasted the name from Bsoyka's comment on the draft, so that's prob where the apostrophe came from. Curbon7 (talk) 22:31, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- For reference, I only noticed it after trying to link to it here so it's not something obvious and you wouldn't catch it really if you never experienced it before. As I posted above, I think all that's needed is another page move. Would you mind doing that if you know how? I'm not sure how to handle the redirects another page move would create since the original title would now be redirecting to a redirected title which in turn now redirects to the new title. It might simply be better to delete the middle redirect outright which is something I can't do myself. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:39, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Marchjuly, okie I did both the move and fixed the redirect. For future reference, all you have to do for double redirects is change the original page's redirect to the newest page instead of the middle page. This just creates two separate redirects instead of one long string. Alternatively, there's also a bot that auto cleans up double redirects, but this takes some time. Curbon7 (talk) 22:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for doing all of that and for the info. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Marchjuly, okie I did both the move and fixed the redirect. For future reference, all you have to do for double redirects is change the original page's redirect to the newest page instead of the middle page. This just creates two separate redirects instead of one long string. Alternatively, there's also a bot that auto cleans up double redirects, but this takes some time. Curbon7 (talk) 22:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- For reference, I only noticed it after trying to link to it here so it's not something obvious and you wouldn't catch it really if you never experienced it before. As I posted above, I think all that's needed is another page move. Would you mind doing that if you know how? I'm not sure how to handle the redirects another page move would create since the original title would now be redirecting to a redirected title which in turn now redirects to the new title. It might simply be better to delete the middle redirect outright which is something I can't do myself. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:39, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
References
Courtesy link: Draft:Scott the Woz
How many references do I need to have? Starkiryu64 (talk) 03:48, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Starkiryu64, at this point, it's not so much a matter of how many references there are; if the references can prove notability, then the subject is just not notable. See our general notability guidelines, notability guidelines for entertainers, and notability eassay for YouTubers. Curbon7 (talk) 05:16, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- So I can go to their own wiki and put on it, right? Starkiryu64 (talk) 05:52, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Starkiryu64, I don't understand what you mean. Curbon7 (talk) 06:13, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Redirects
Hi, thank you for reviewing some of my recent redirects. However, just to save you some time in the future, you should know that I'm on the Wikipedia:Redirect whitelist, which means that eventually my redirects will be automatically patrolled by bot. Have a nice day, Clovermoss (talk) 00:18, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Clovermoss, I was wondering why I was seeing so many redirects, and then I realized I had accidentally set the NPP filter to include them lol. Curbon7 (talk) 04:08, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Nikki Fried
The article Nikki Fried you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Nikki Fried for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of FredModulars -- FredModulars (talk) 10:21, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- The only issue is... where is the source for her DOB? I'm sorry to be a stickler, but it absolutely must have a valid source if it is to not violate WP:DOB. - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 10:44, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Aussie Article Writer, Done. Curbon7 (talk) 11:08, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you! - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 12:17, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Aussie Article Writer, Done. Curbon7 (talk) 11:08, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Unjustified grounds of rejection. Draft:Mahnaz_Malik
I'm just surprised. Mahnaz Malik being the youngest ever arbitrator appointed by the World Bank and also winning the UK Financial Times of the Year Award. That's beyond notable.
Also, I do not understand how the author of several books two of them published by Oxford University press is not notable. All sources are not self published but of third party sources and news.
Further she's been noted as a leading children's writer in other Wikipedia entries?
My question is what I do? It seems quite unfair that someone can reject on whimsical grounds.
Are the articles written about her in Wikipedia are not notable? Is that what you are saying.
Other articles can write about someone on Wikipedia and cite the person but the person whom they're citing isn't notable enough to have an article ? That does not make sense.
Please review it again. Your grounds are completely unjustified by what you've said. Njinfo10109 (talk) 16:03, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
Please tell me what action further should be taken. As a editor I am sure you will understand what has been said and done does not make sense. Njinfo10109 (talk) 16:04, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- Njinfo10109, This has been discussed ad nauseam at the AfC help desk. I have no further response that would not just be me repeating what has been said there. Curbon7 (talk) 21:34, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
It has been discussed and agreed the article is of notability but citation should be changed because of unfit. As you can view from th help desk. Thank you. So I would like the article to be removed from rejected since agreed that the reason is not unfit. Njinfo10109 (talk) 02:00, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- Njinfo10109, I don't understand what you're trying to say. Curbon7 (talk) 02:04, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Marjorie Taylor Greene
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Marjorie Taylor Greene you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of TheTechnician27 -- TheTechnician27 (talk) 01:01, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- TheTechnician27, Thank you for taking this challenging review! Curbon7 (talk) 01:09, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Curbon7: It's going to be a ride, my friend. For what it's worth, I like to be hands-on in reviewing (be it a new, start-level article or this behemoth), so I'll spare you most of the tedious, trivial, nitpicky stuff (like grammar and formatting) and mostly just interject on broader issues where both of us should work together to find a solution. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 01:21, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
draft on google
No, I do not represent anyone. I'm not a professional wikipedia editor as my articles show and merely write artcles for black women whose works I admire and want to bring to wider notice. I don't personally know these women although I follow some of them on twitter and like and retweet their tweets. I also know a friend of one of the women. The only thing all three articles I've written for wikipedia have in common is that they're black women in the creative industry who are making great strides against all odds. As such, I don't want their images messed up with by a devout fan as myself. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by AFRICAN001 (talk • contribs) 11:27, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Request on 14:24:28, 28 June 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Diannedito
Courtesy link: Draft:Elkanodata
- Diannedito (talk · contribs)
Hi, I have added back the information about the prizes in a totally original way, my apologies for the duplicated content I originally introduced. About the media references, I have included the ones I have found, I will see if you have more to include. Thank you very much!
Diannedito (talk) 14:24, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Garland Favorito
I understand that there is no interest in doing something about, "To start a page called Draft:Garland Favorito, type in the box below. When you are done, preview the page to check for errors and then publish it." (I hope that is not a copyright violation) I'll leave the gaudy crap objecting to my suggested article up on the ISP talk page. It's easier to delete than to work on an draft, isn't it? I accept that. So it goes (a sci-fi author said that). - 66.102.220.134 (talk) 00:28, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- We can't accept copyrighted material. If it was only partially copyrighted, then we could've done the revision delete process, which would've kept the page but removed the copyrighted bits. However, this draft was a blatant copyright violation. You are welcome to try again, but please don't copy-paste next time. Curbon7 (talk) 00:55, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Not a problem - I will not suggest missing topics. It was a mistake. I will continue to occasionally make minor corrections. - 66.102.220.134 (talk) 20:54, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
Request a draft review
Could you please review this Draft:Government of Somaliland? Many Thanks. --Siirski (talk) 23:45, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Curbon7,
- Is this the page you want to move to Government of Somaliland? Is so, please mention this in the CSD tag. I believe Twinkle has an option for you to list the page you want to move over. As an admin, I'm reluctant to delete a valid page without first checking out the page that an editor wants to replace it with. Liz Read! Talk! 05:31, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- Liz, Yeah, I'm sorry it slipped my mind to link the page. Curbon7 (talk) 12:31, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
Re: comment "IMDb is not a valid source"
Hi Curbon7. Thanks for reviewing my submission and I have made some changes per your suggestion. It is my first time writing on wikipedia. I added many more citations to articles written about the living person I wrote a page on. I can see that generally speaking, IMDb may not be a valid source, however in the context of the citation, I believe they are. I cited them for the awards the living person has won and IMDb has a strict and extensive verification and accreditation process for awards; I encourage you to research IMDb accredited festivals. IMDb is one of few legitimate sources to verify awards filmmakers and Entertainment industry persons have won. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Douggybenton (talk • contribs) 23:25, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- Douggybenton, IMDb can still be used as an external link (WP:IMDB-EL), but is not acceptable as a reliable source. Per WP:CITINGIMDB, there are only 2 instances where it is valid to use as a source, and this situation is neither. Curbon7 (talk) 17:13, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
July 2021
I need help for my University Project
Hi, I am really sorry to bother you but I need your help. I am currently working on a Wikipedia page that I have personally created for a University Project. Here is the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Abbey_of_San_Vito_Martire Unfortunately, someone declined it because I did not respect all the parameters. I think that now it might be better. However, it takes too long for the others to review it and I need to finish it for my exam as soon as possible. Can you please review it for me? I can even improve it if you have any suggestions, as long as I know that everything will be done and ready in a short period of time.
Best Regards, Daniela P. Danielapausche (talk) 10:24, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
Hello Curbon7,
Thanks for reviewing "Mahalingam Thangavelu" page that I had submitted.
I have submitted the edited the page and have included the in-line references per your review.
Please let me know if additional format changes are preferred. The goal is not to have an Autobiography, but to foster lines of research that were started by him, especially due to the background radiation effects causing cancer in the Indian state of Kerala.
Thanks very much. Mukherjee27 (talk) 14:27, 6 July 2021 (UTC)Mukherjee27
Question
@Curbon7: Does this draft have a problem? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Univision_Now ItsJustdancefan (talk) 23:04, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
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Hi Curbon7,
Wonderful, what would you need from me in regards to the Reparations Bill Passing and Alderman Robin Rue Simmons? We are trying to inspire youth in Chicago, and we thought this was a great start since the reparations bill is historic.
Thanks so much in advance!
Shawn Mayberry — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShawnMayberry (talk • contribs) 19:45, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
DYK for Nikki Fried
On 9 July 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Nikki Fried, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after her election as Florida's agriculture commissioner, Nikki Fried was sworn into office using the first Hebrew Bible published in the United States? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nikki Fried. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Nikki Fried), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Nikki Fried
Hello:
The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Nikki Fried has been completed.
Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
Congratulations on achieving GAN status.
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Can you help me creating this page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Happybusan (talk • contribs) 21:15, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
I'm not sure why it's believed there is a not enought citations from reliable scores
Is " the guardian" newspaper in citation #2 that has a indepth artical about English people immigrating not enough.
Each of my 4 examples of Anglo-Icelander have 2 or 3 citations, these are provided by museums , television channels and newspapers....and the citation on the number of Anglo-Icelanders is from the Icelandic statistics board
What more do I need to do — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garry Taylor (talk • contribs) 01:58, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
- The main problem is the lack of reliable sources, which therefore does not allow for verification of the information. Without that verifiability, we don't know if there are factual errors or not. This is mainly only an issue regarding the number of Anglo-Icelanders. Curbon7 (talk) 02:14, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
Response to your denial of article
Hello! Thanks for reviewing the page I created for Kyle A. Thomas. I just wanted to ask about your interpretation of the academic notability standards, which you determined were not met. Based upon Wikipedia's 8 conditions for academic notability (of which only one must be met to pass the threshold of notability), Kyle A. Thomas meets the 8th point easily. He is the editor-in-chief for an international academic journal in his discipline. So, I'd like to ask why you did not see the article about him as meeting the standards of notability? Am I missing something? I'll also add that I understand the citation criteria wasn't the strongest and I'm working to remedy that. If you still have access to the draft of the article could you point out the citations that don't meet the standards of Wikipedia because, from what I can tell looking at other pages about academics, the citations are more robust than what I've seen. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Usesoap17 (talk • contribs) 23:23, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
Speedy Nomination
Hi. Could you maybe help me by telling me how i can fix my article so that it does not promote anything? Thanks. Marshal Qwop (talk) 11:24, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- Above user was blocked for sockpuppetry. Curbon7 (talk) 01:28, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
New contributor help RE Draft:Rawle Harding first article
Hello, I should have checked the guidelines further for more informations on which sources could be used and which ones could not. When I was doing the research on Rawle Harding I did a google search and there are articles written about his music however, i assumed when it came to listing his music a link to the source would be appropriate. I realize now it is not a reliable source. I have since removed those sources and added others.
When writing about music artists what are the best practices for source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaimake (talk • contribs) 23:57, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- Kaimake, Reliable sources and sources independent of the subject are absolute necessities, especially in a biography of a living person. If you want to know if a certain source is reliable or not, this link has a compilation of frequently discussed sources. Curbon7 (talk) 01:32, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
apparently
apparently you have nothing to do with your time and its time you went home we dont need your comments you do not represent this website you are abusive and rude — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pwikiemail (talk • contribs) 18:35, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- Pwikiemail, Where did we cross paths? Curbon7 (talk) 20:42, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
Matthew Pajares Yngson
I came across a draft of this interesting subject and saw you had some concerns. When I look at it seems there are independent sources and he has international recognition. Was hoping you could provide some more opinion so that I might give a more viable try...thanks.CaliBuds (talk) 14:42, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
Nishant Kumar
I want to publish my Nishant Kumar , youth leader at Yuva JDU , i have added all details is correct and real, u have rejected my page publish so , plzz accept my article . Thanks you. Nishantkumar930 (talk) 15:35, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
- Nishantkumar930, Please see the response you received at the AfC Help Desk. Curbon7 (talk) 20:26, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Marjorie Taylor Greene
The article Marjorie Taylor Greene you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Marjorie Taylor Greene for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of TheTechnician27 -- TheTechnician27 (talk) 19:21, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
August 2021
organisation accounts
Some wikis allow organisation accounts - see Commons policy for an example. Please don't report users at WP:UAA if they haven't edited on this wiki. Cabayi (talk) 08:52, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
Your message about signing when adding content to talk pages
Thanks for your comment. If I go back to the talk page where I added a comment can I retrospectively add my signature or should I just do it in future? I don't want to accidentally make a mess. Help very much appreciated.
I'm sorry, I just realized I failed to sign again. Maud.Clowd (talk) 09:38, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
- Maud.Clowd, just do it in the future, the one's that exist are not a huge issue. There are bots that drop the unsigned template on some unsigned posts and scripts that help human editors do it, so it's not that much of a biggie. It's ok by the way, literally everyone forgets to sign their posts when they first start editing lol; I'm sure you'll get the hang of it. Curbon7 (talk) 09:59, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
Sorting Florida places
I've been involved in the GNIS cleanup since last year, and I've found a few ways to generally most efficiently handle the cleanup. PROD works well for the modern subdivisions that lack coverage, as those are generally fairly uncontroversial. Obvious non-communities that fail GNG can also be prodded, such as fords, railroad sidings with no associated community, and river landings. Anything controversial should go through AFD. A special case is if you have a bunch of very similar articles in the same county - see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chaney Ranch, California for a bunch of ranches in California (+1 subdivision I would have left out) or Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Butzner Corner, Virginia (a bunch of named road junctions in Virginia) for bundled ones that work. Sometimes I'll take really blatant errors through AFD instead of PROD to preserve a discussion showing why GNIS/databases aren't good sources for this, such as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Levee Spur, California or Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fish Pond, Kentucky. Absolutely unidentifiable stuff comes up, too - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Acodale, Virginia is one that went to AFD. Depending on how you feel about the unidentifiable ones, prod or AFD either works. Sometimes you run into hoaxes as well, like I'm pretty sure Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stone Ridge, Maryland was at least partially.
Don't feel like you have to take the advice, but these are just some general thought of mine based on experience with this. You don't want to send stuff through PROD that maybe isn't quite noncontroversial, but it's also good to not overload AFD or people get burned out. I think there were over 100 in the geography delsort page for awhile last winter when some of us were processing a big batch of California ones mass-produced from a book the author misinterpreted.
As far as I can tell, there's a mess of these in most states. I think California, Idaho, and Iowa have been mostly processed, and Missouri, Kentucky, West Virginia, and Virginia have been partially done. Hog Farm Talk 04:23, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hog Farm, thanks for the helpful tips! I'll definitely take that into consideration. Curbon7 (talk) 05:35, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hog Farm, Luckily most of these Florida ones are pretty good so far. I've only had to AfD like 3 and PROD maybe 10; most of those were in Monroe County and Miami-Dade County, so it's actually gonna be a breeze going forward as the unincorporated communities in rural counties going northward seem to have a good number of sources that I've been able to add from Newspapers.com. Curbon7 (talk) 06:03, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
Salem Ali Qatan
I added some references to Salem Ali Qatan, including the year and place of birth. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 03:48, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
Deletion discussion
Hi Curbon, I interpreted your comment here as a withdrawal of your nomination and an invitation to close the discussion. Given that there were no other editors advocating for deletion, I also determined that it was appropriate for non-admin closure. If you disagree, please let me know. Otherwise, happy editing. St★lwart111 07:19, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- Stalwart111, All good; I highly recommend you activate Wikipedia:XFDcloser, it's a really useful tool as it automatically deals with all the tags! Curbon7 (talk) 07:27, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks mate. I've used it in the past and deactivated it. The automated features are good, but I find the "old fashioned" manual way means I check, re-check, and re-check again. I'm in no rush. St★lwart111 08:13, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
Maa Shakti
Hi, the artcle Maa Shakti sources are 100% right. I have found it very deeply. It's first draft article was deleted and this new article is right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiuser829 (talk • contribs) 10:08, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Wikiuser829, the article was draftified because it was completely unsourced. Curbon7 (talk) 10:13, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm Sarah Schneuwly -Schneider. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Fall of Kabul (2021), and have marked it as unreviewed. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.
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Sarah Schneuwly -Schneider (talk) 21:37, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Why was it unreviewed? The article will very clearly not get deleted any time soon, it's featured on the Main Page (ITN), it's a current event, and many eyes (myself included) are on that page. --MuZemike 21:59, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
September 2021
DYK for Sevastijan Dabović
On 4 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sevastijan Dabović, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that bishop Nikolaj Velimirović called Sevastijan Dabović the greatest Serbian missionary of modern times? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sevastijan Dabović. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Sevastijan Dabović), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Regarding review an article
Dear Curbon7 The following article has been rearranged and now it is similar to other profiles of academicians/researchers, could you please advise or help regarding the article? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Professor_Dr_Mohd_Ma%E2%80%99Sum_Billah — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bodimist (talk • contribs) 03:34, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
Deletion review for Aame Katha
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Aame Katha. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. — Alalch Emis (talk) 12:11, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
Please go ahead and modify your close per your statement in the DRV for this discussion. I've gone ahead and closed it, but wanted to let you do your own revision. Thanks, Jclemens (talk) 02:07, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Jeb Bush series
Template:Jeb Bush series has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:59, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
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Tu
Ve a la merda! Wikijahnn (talk) 00:50, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
Deletion Sorting
While I agree that those four pages should be deleted, a related issue is the lack of transparency into the choice lists for deletion sorting. See WP:Deletion Sorting Deletion Issue. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:53, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
- Robert McClenon, I agree; it would also likely be easier if there were definitively written instructions (ex. "when you create a new delsort, add it to this that and the other page"). There are a bunch of useful delsort pages that just haven't been created yet, and a main reason is probably because editors from those respective Wikiprojects got confused in the process. Curbon7 (talk) 03:06, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
October 2021
I need help with a page
Hello, I have added new citations to the page I was creating from 3 different independent sources. Can you please review it again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:George_Cervantes Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcorubiocali (talk • contribs) 18:51, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
- Marcorubiocali, The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Curbon7 (talk) 23:24, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
Article for submission: Largest US Charities
Hi Curbon7,
I appreciated your review of my article for submission. When it was declined you mentioned a lack of reliable sources and proof of notability. I am of course aware that I only cited one source, which was Forbes. However, I think there is precedent for this style of List article, directly based off a reputable financial source, similar to the List of wealthiest Americans by net worth, Forbes list of The World's 100 Most Powerful Women, and 6 other lists published annually by a different magazine, Fortune, all of which have articles on Wikipedia (See list).
Since there's such a strong case of precedent, what do you think about including the 100 Largest US Charities on Wikipedia as well?
Best wishes, Ph03n1x77 (talk) 02:13, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
RE: Festim Mehmeti
why did you make spedy delete the article EFEM PLEASE stop deleting now 20 times you have all argumets leave the article on wikipedia if you need informations we are here to help for that ?Toniwikipi (talk) 02:13, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- Above user was blocked as a sock. Curbon7 (talk) 00:13, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
Peter Taffe
Why is it that you feel an article filled with sources from the subject should not be deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.92.48.129 (talk) 21:41, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- Read WP:PROD. Since I contested your PROD, the next step is AfD. Curbon7 (talk) 00:15, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
Please explain why you think the deletion tag for Mediatisation was invalid. It was made in good faith and in agreement with previous comments. I think that your action requires an explanation on the talk page. If you think there was a formal error in the rationale, it could probably have been fixed in a more helpful way. Agnerf (talk) 16:40, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- Agnerf, Your PROD rationale was justifying a page merge/redirect, which is out of the purview of of WP:PROD. If you wanted a redirect, you could've just been bold and done it yourself, or begun a proposed merge if you wanted a merge instead. In any case, if this article went to AfD or WP:PAM, I would support deletion/merging. Tl;dr, I'm not opposed to deletion/merging of the article, but your rationale was out of order for PROD. Curbon7 (talk) 17:44, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for explaining Agnerf (talk) 18:33, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
Regarding removal of WP:PROD tag
Hi, I see you removed PROD tag I added on two articles i.e. Capture of Delhi (1753) and Battle of Sikandra. I just wanted to say that I thoroughly read references provided on the article page and many books for further reference. And I didn't find a single reference of said events specially Capture of Delhi page which I think completely different story altogether. See the talk page of these articles and also see my talk page where I explained in detailed about the said articles. And it is unfortunate that without any apparent reason, you removed tag from both these pages. I hope you should help us fight vandalism and hoaxes rather than defending them. I think I will go for WP:AFD after a few days when I will not be busy as its gonna be a little tedious process comapred to WP:PROD which you declined. In the meantime if you could help me to get truth of these articles than it would be appreciated specially cross-checking the sources and see if the article of Capture of Delhi (1753) has any citation/reference of capturing the city by belligerent Jats or article of Battle of Sikandra has any citation of any actual battle and not just looting of a tomb. Thanks in advance.Hiensrt (talk) 18:53, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hiensrt, My general perspective is when a claim for deletion regarding something being untrue/a hoax is made, in particular regarding Indian topics due to the prevalence of caste war editing on Wikipedia, it should go to AfD in order to get more eyes on it. I have no qualms against the nomination itself, sorry if my edit summary when contesting the PRODs seemed crass. Curbon7 (talk) 19:02, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- Curbon7 understood. I will go for AfD after a few days when I get free time to spare. There is just too much non-sense written as you said due to prevalent castecrufts. That is why it is more important to keep eye on such new pages specially created by sockpuppet as these two are.Hiensrt (talk) 20:14, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
Contested deletion proposal of Chanto
Hi Curbon7, I hope all is well. Thank you very kindly for reviewing the deletion proposal of Chanto. This is my first time identifying and submitting such a request, and while I attempted to look for credible sources prior, I was unsuccessful. With the article being tagged for not meeting the general notability guidelines for over nine years, if there are credible sources in other languages that you’ve identified, I’d be happy to partner with you in developing the article further to ensure it is better reflected. I hope my suggestion is not too unconventional, and because you have more expertise within the platform than I do, I’d be happy to be guided by you in the process. I’m looking forward to your thoughts, and wishing you a wonderful day. Journey of Learning (talk) 03:45, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
Query
Hello, Curbon7,
Your User page shows up as a pink link in my browser window which, with the scripts I use, typically means that it is a page that has been tagged for deletion. But I looked it over and don't see a transcluded speedy deletion tag on it. The page also shows that it is in the hidden category Category:Miscellaneous pages for deletion which I can't seem to remove. So, there might be a CSD tag somewhere in there but I can't find the tag to remove it. I don't think you have to worry about your User page being deleted, I thought I'd mention it to you in case you could figure it out. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 19:11, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- Liz, thanks for letting me know! I'm gonna be out for the rest of today, but I'll def try to figure it out tomorrow. Curbon7 (talk) 19:14, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- Actually I think I may know, which is one of the userboxes I have is currently at MfD. That may be the cause. Curbon7 (talk) 19:15, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, this thing happens when inexperienced editors tag templates for deletion. I've seen CSD categories fill up with user pages because the speedy deletion tag was transcluded on to editor's pages. Liz Read! Talk! 00:07, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
- Actually I think I may know, which is one of the userboxes I have is currently at MfD. That may be the cause. Curbon7 (talk) 19:15, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
You're famous
lmao. Schierbecker (talk) 06:11, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
- Schierbecker, haha I was finally able to join the club!!! Curbon7 (talk) 06:33, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
- I laughed pretty hard when I saw that. Glad you took it in jest! Schierbecker (talk) 06:35, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
- Schierbecker, apparently I also got "roasted" by a political party staffer a few months ago and never noticed lol [6] Curbon7 (talk) 06:42, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
- I laughed pretty hard when I saw that. Glad you took it in jest! Schierbecker (talk) 06:35, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
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Curbon7 (talk) 07:17, 27 October 2021 (UTC)Stellenbosch University Library and Information Service wiki query
Hi Curbon7
Thank you for your swift review of my submission. It's the first time I'm creating something for Wikipedia and I just need some clarity on what I need to fix in order for our Library's wiki page to be accepted?
Kind regards Kirchner — Preceding unsigned comment added by KigvD (talk • contribs) 07:50, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Single-use plastics
I'm sorry to hear my article entry of the above title has been rejected. The reason cited was the absence of a reliable source. The source that I referred to was the BBC. Is this institution no longer considered a reliable source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tavernsenses (talk • contribs) 06:23, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
- Tavernsenses, BBC is a solid source, but in order to be proven notable via WP:GNG, there need to be additional sources that confer significant coverage. Eyeballing it off-the-cuff, chances are this may be a notable topic, but there needs to be additional sourcing to prove that. Curbon7 (talk) 06:29, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi there, I saw you made edits on the page for Dr. Ghosh. I was hoping you could help me fix the title page - his name is misspelled as Gosh instead of Ghosh. Additionally, I would like to figure out how to link his page to the Description of his name on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jawaharlal_Institute_of_Postgraduate_Medical_Education_and_Research#:~:text=MN%20Ghosh%E2%80%94first%20Director
How long does it usually take for this page to move out of draft mode? I appreciate all the help, especially since I am new! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cybersm (talk • contribs) 16:50, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
- Cybersm A reviewer has to review the draft to ensure it meets notability guidelines. This can take up to a maximum of 8 weeks, though it will likely be less than that. Curbon7 (talk) 17:46, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
November 2021
Hello, colleague, help protect the page about the biography of one musician, there are more than 43 sources, it was mined for deletion, please help urgently! --Robotkaka20 (talk) 17:44, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
Here is the article itself: Kholmat Odilov --Robotkaka20 (talk) 17:44, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi, could you please elaborate on why you removed my PROD on this article? As I mentioned, BEFORE searches returned absolutely no reliable sources. And the article concerns a state level administrative agency that doesn't appear to play a particularly significant role. So I'd appreciate it if you could elaborate on why you think this agency is notable or if there's something I'm missing here. Thanks! DocFreeman24 (talk) 05:42, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
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Did you accidentally remove some of your userboxes?
You appear to have made an edit in which you removed all of your politics userboxes, but I doesn't look intentional, so I'm here to ask if it was an accident or not. X-Editor (talk) 20:20, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Request AFD smaller batch
Hello @Curbon7: the AFD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2020 May Kado massacre has been closed, your sugesstion of smaller batches is recommended, i did do a before check on these 17 articles; 2020 May Kado massacre, 2020 Selekhlekha massacre, 2020 Wukro Maray massacre, 2020 Shire massacre, 2021 Shire massacre, 2021 Selekhlekha massacre, 2021 Wukro Maray massacres, Adi Hutsa massacre, Addi Gabat massacre, Addi Berik massacre, Addi Deqqi Beqli massacre, Addi Esher massacre, Awulo massacre, Adi Hageray massacre, April 2021 May Kado massacre, Ala'isa massacre, Megab massacre, if it's not too much trouble can you start a bundled AFD? Thank you Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 13:35, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Incorrect move?
You seem to have moved a page from user namespace and created a duplicate. Draft:Vijay Rao (1) duplicate of Draft:Vijay Rao. Jay (talk) 08:30, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
- Jay, it's correct. The working process for AfC is when a userspace page is submitted as a draft, and there is already an existing submission under that name, a number is added to the end. This ensures that (1) all AfC submissions are in draftspace, and (2) we are aware of the number of an existing submission that exists, in the case merging or selective reviewing is needed. Curbon7 (talk) 17:02, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Prodding
Come from here you aren’t wrong when you say applying BLProd ought to have been the right way, & yes I understand you, you are going by the NPP flowchart, which is good, but the problem with the flowchart is that the theoretical bureaucracy sometimes complicates what ought to be rather straightforward. prods are easily the most inutile method of deletion, more often than not & statistically speaking we almost always need to circle back to AFD, after prodding which we could have used from the inception. At some point I checked the number of people with the NPR flag & I saw over 700 people with the perm using a tool I checked the list of the most active reviewers, after which I did a feasibility study & I noted that less than 1% of the most active reviewers use prodding. Celestina007 (talk) 18:27, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Marijuana Metheny
FYI, I have opened an SPI that may be relevant. ClaudineChionh (talk – contribs) 07:21, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
ArbCom 2021 Elections voter message
Punjab Lok Congress
Hello, You contested prod on Punjab Lok Congress with a comment that "contesting PROD; party holds a seat in a parliament" which is incorrect because as per this list] on the official Punjab Government site Punjab Lok Congress does not hold any seat in the Punjab Legislative Assembly yet so would you mind reverting your edit? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.23.212.45 (talk) 07:45, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
2022 Indianapolis 500 at AfD
Hello, I am sending notices to everyone who participated in the previous AfD that the article 2022 Indianapolis 500 has again been put up for AfD discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2022 Indianapolis 500 (2nd nomination). Have a lovely day. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 10:09, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello
Hello, @Curbon7: how are you? hope you are well Can you review this article , He is a writer, journalist, Middle East correspondent for a well-known Turkish online newspaper Ensonhaber and translator, I think he is notable, Can you review it, and move it to the main space , if it is appropriate and encyclopedic? thank you In advance --Abdulhamid Han ll (talk) 12:19, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
- The above is a globally-banned LTA, User:علي_أبو_عمر, who continues to relentlessly try to publish an article about himself. OhNoitsJamie Talk 18:31, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
- I figured something like that was going on; also, Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of علي أبو عمر has to be one of the biggest sock cats I've seen recently! Curbon7 (talk) 23:14, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Further explination please
I do not understand how my proposed article is not sufficient enough for Wikipedia considering 2021 gubernatorial elections is (you declined my draft for 2025 gubernatorial election) Cookiemonstericecream (talk) 00:11, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
- Cookiemonstericecream, as I mentioned, it's still too far out from those elections for not only reliable sources to exist, but for content to exist. As they stand, those articles would essentially say nothing new for years. Once there is a demonstrable need for their creation (i.e. notable candidates or significant news coverage), then they can be created. Curbon7 (talk) 00:29, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
December 2021
Thanks for your participation in the November 2021 New Pages Patrol drive
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Thank you for reviewing or re-reviewing 60 articles, which helped contribute to an overall 1276-article reduction in the backlog during the drive. (t · c) buidhe 12:35, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
My Article (Draft:People Playground (1))
Hi, This is the People playground article, Steam has the whole info since that's where the game is. So it is considered to reliable. Yodas henchman (talk) 16:42, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- Yodas henchman, Steam is not a reliable or independent source. If it was, then there would have to be articles for all 50,000 games on Steam. Follow the criteria established at WP:NVG. Curbon7 (talk) 22:44, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- Steam is where the game is, and the developer puts the information in steam. Yodas henchman (talk) 18:06, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
- Yodas henchman, again, information that comes from the developer is a primary source. We only deal with secondary sources here on Wikipedia. These could range from video game magazines to online news sources, etc. If you have questions about specific sources or need help sourcing in general, please post your question at the Teahouse, Help Desk, or Reference Desk. Curbon7 (talk) 06:00, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- Oh ok, thanks I will get more sources Yodas henchman (talk) 19:45, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- Yodas henchman, again, information that comes from the developer is a primary source. We only deal with secondary sources here on Wikipedia. These could range from video game magazines to online news sources, etc. If you have questions about specific sources or need help sourcing in general, please post your question at the Teahouse, Help Desk, or Reference Desk. Curbon7 (talk) 06:00, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- Steam is where the game is, and the developer puts the information in steam. Yodas henchman (talk) 18:06, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
When You Messaged me about Jermell Charlo Vs Brian Castaño 2 I already know it but I just didn't have time to.And also please don't message me again thank you and have a good day. Peace KeybLetgo (talk) 22:11, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- KeybLetgo, that was an automated message. Curbon7 (talk) 22:41, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
What are you talking about sir? KeybLetgo (talk) 20:35, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
Speedy deletion
Why you delete Anwar Shah Orakzai, Wikipedia page? Muftinadeem (talk) 07:50, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- Muftinadeem, For the same reason it was deleted 3 times before. Curbon7 (talk) 08:13, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Anwar Shah Orakzai
Hello Curbon7, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Anwar Shah Orakzai, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A Reporters Without Borders profile for this journalist would appear sufficient enough to avoid outright WP:A7 deletion. WP:JOURNALIST, WP:GNG , WP:ANYBIO may still be applied . You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Shirt58 (talk) 10:31, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- Solid, the main concern was that it was previously salted and re-created under a different name, but it's been draftified now so it's fine. Curbon7 (talk) 22:41, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
Raza Sahib Article Redirect
Hello @Curbon7 - Thank you for reviewing my work in progress of the article - Raza Sahib - I see you have redirected it to Chanda Sahib accidentally maybe ? Chanda Sahib is the father and Raza Sahib is the son - So I think this redirect is probably invalid - On account of this I am undoing the redirect - and if you would disagree maybe, I would appreciate if you could maybe explain the rationale. Thank you again for the time and help!
Karthik Sripal (talk) 15:33, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- Karthik sripal, Seems non-notable, and article is currently unreferenced. Redirect to the father makes the most sense at the moment unless source exist that can prove his ntoability. Curbon7 (talk) 22:42, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for the response @Curbon7. I have added few references now for the notability, added cats and will and plan on expanding this article. Appreciate your time. Karthik Sripal (talk) 03:27, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Olha Ilkiv
On 10 December 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Olha Ilkiv, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 17:01, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
A cookie for you!
Thanks for pinging me in the comments you made at Draft:William J. Meade. It helps me learn and in hindsight, duh! :) S0091 (talk) 14:41, 11 December 2021 (UTC) |
Change to Coffea affinis
Hi Curbon7! Thanks for reviewing my page. Can you explain the changes? I don't see anything that indicates that I broke any Wikipedia rules. You shortened and slightly reworded the text, so I'm wondering what the rationale was. (I just want to be sure to do a better job next time.) Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lfassman (talk • contribs) 16:16, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hi -- I retract my last comment! I'm sorry - it was someone else who made the changes I was referring to. Lfassman (talk) 16:19, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
Speedy
Malformed? Please explain, and why you couldn't just fix it? -- Valjean (talk) 02:16, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
- Valjean, Sorry, I meant to re-add it but I got distracted lol. Curbon7 (talk) 02:33, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
- Okay. -- Valjean (talk) 02:34, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
Delete rather than draftifying multiple times
You moved Moulvibazar Government High School to draft space twice. Between your two moves, the author had moved it back to article space, so your second move is controversial and I've reverted it. Please improve the article or delete it instead of moving it to draft repeatedly, per WP:NPPDRAFT point 3b and WP:DRAFTOBJECT. --Worldbruce (talk) 06:06, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
- Worldbruce, apologies, I didn't realize I had draftified it previously; I should've taken better care by looking deeper in the page history. Curbon7 (talk) 22:37, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Undoing Draftification
I draftified because there is a chance on notability, but the current sourcing is not reliable (mostly stat pages, college newspaper articles and recruiting profiles) and that way the article can be improved without threat of deletion. I'm not trying to delete so the drafts should be moved back. GPL93 (talk) 22:28, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- GPL93, I know, and I don't necessarily disagree; however, college football athletes should generally be AfD'd, as it's not a subject that would improve with draftification, and there is consensus regarding that at that WikiProject. Curbon7 (talk) 22:36, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- The Jerreth Sterns article could probably pass GNG with some work given he led NCAA Division I in several receiving categories, but I understand your point. GPL93 (talk) 22:39, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Draft:Araz Budagov
Hello. Sorry for disturbing. Can you look through Draft:Araz Budagov page again? -- Rüfət Həsənli (talk) 16:28, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- Rüfət Həsənli, Done. Curbon7 (talk) 17:39, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you very much -- Rüfət Həsənli (talk) 18:47, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
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Clop trout
Hello Mr/Ms Curbon. Thanks for making me chuckle with this comment "Also, TROUT the nominator for making me vote keep on an article about brony porn". Well said! Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 22:57, 31 December 2021 (UTC)