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I guess you haven't seen any of the articles. It has been confirmed that Caleb is NOT a Vampire. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.67.215.37 (talk) 04:03, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

I have, and it has not been confirmed that Caleb is not a vampire. On the 2/22/13 episode, a character speculated that Caleb might not be an actual vampire, but that was not confirmed by any evidence or confirmation from caleb. He was definitely a vampire on Port Charles, so there is absolutely no reason to change it until there has been further confirmation.Caringtype1 (talk) 04:14, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Recurring

Technically, the onus to discuss on the talk page would come before they are added to the list, given that the original addition was challenged. I'd be more than happy to discuss this on the talk page as well though. A direct link for you. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 22:17, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Invisible archive?

Rather than undo your removal of text again, I am going to ask you to point out where - precisely - the archive is. I am not seeing it on the talk page. I will need you to let me know somewhat quickly, or I will have to escalate the matter. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 03:54, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Um, it's right there at the top of the page, but here's the link.Caringtype1 (talk) 03:56, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Okay, oops. Sorry for the confusion. I am more used to standalone archive boxes. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 04:27, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

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Overlinking

The MOS at WP:OVERLINK tells us "In particular, unless they are particularly relevant to the topic of the article, the following are not usually linked:everyday words (expressions, phrases, terminology, etc.) understood by most readers in context;". Google is commonly understood by internet users (which is Wikipedia readers) and not particularly relevant to the show. that is why I removed the needless wikilink. Niteshift36 (talk) 20:27, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

"Google" is not an everyday word. Hello is an everyday word. Google is a company that not everyone is familiar with, maybe you're very familiar with it, but many people do not use or even know what Google is. Even if they do know what it is, many would want to read that article as well, so linking it just makes sense. Not a violation of WP:OVERLINK.Caringtype1 (talk) 20:33, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

It is an everyday word. It's in the standard lexicon. It's a commonly used word, utilized by millions of people on a daily basis as both noun and verb. The MOS doesn't say "everyone", it says "most readers", and most do understand it. Further, it's not relevant to the article at all. His previous affiliation with Google doesn't really do anything for the storyline. If they changed it to Microsoft, HP or Dell, not a bit of the story would change. Niteshift36 (talk) 20:52, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

You're making the assumption that most readers understand it. And if it were Microsoft, or something else, we'd link to that page, too.Caringtype1 (talk) 20:54, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm making the presumption that most internet users (which is what our readers are) are familiar with the largest search engine on the planet. And I'd unlink Microsoft too because it would be equally irrelevant and in common use. Niteshift36 (talk) 20:59, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

That's still no reason to not link to the article. I suggest you bring the subject up on the article's talk page to get other opinions before I re-link it.(which I will do).Caringtype1 (talk) 21:02, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Since this is the English Wikipedia, let's look at the two big markets: US and UK. As of last month, Google was 90% of the search engine market in the UK [1] and over 67% in the US [2]. That is surely a majority, which would certainly be "most" internet users. Do you have any evidence that the term is not understood by most readers? Niteshift36 (talk) 21:21, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

That's irrelevant, anyway. Just because most people know what NBC is, doesn't mean we don't need to link to its article.

I wouldn't argue against removing the link for NBC, but I can see linking it. NBC is American and I could see Australians, Brits etc not necessarily knowing what it is. Google, however, is global and apparently even more popular in the UK than the US. Of course the 67% doesn't mean that those using Bing or Yahoo don't know what Google is, but we can prove those using Google know what it is. So I've actually provided evidence to support my contention. What have you done besides misstate the MOS (everyone vs most) and just say 'you're wrong'? Niteshift36 (talk) 01:54, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Stating facts about Google, do not support your claim at all.Caringtype1 (talk) 16:17, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, actually it does. If the vast majority of internet users are using Google as their search engine, they clearly know what it is. That shows that the majority of internet users DO understand the term, which is what makes linking it unnecessary and contrary to the MOS. If the clear majority are using it, how could any rational person argue that they don't know what it is and need a link to it? Once again, I provided evidence and you've provided WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Niteshift36 (talk) 18:48, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

I suggest you review this and this before you make this bigger than its needs to be.Caringtype1 (talk) 23:05, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Why would I review those? I haven't been uncivil. What I've done is properly apply the MOS and offer evidence from third party sources that support my application. What you've done is ignore it, effectively say 'nuh huh' and offer no evidence whatsoever to indicate that most English speaking internet users would need to have Google explained to them. Niteshift36 (talk) 01:09, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

You know what, it isn't worth my time trying to explain this to you because you obviously can't seem to understand this.Caringtype1 (talk) 01:19, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

You haven't tried to explain anything. All you've done it misrepresent the MOS and say 'some people don't know it'. No evidence. Just your say so and based on a flawed understanding. Even if, as you claim, some don't know what Google is, the vast majority do, as I've shown evidence of. The standard is most, not all.Niteshift36 (talk) 03:39, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Ok, you've stated your ridiculous claim. Stop trying to make sense out of the nonsense you're claiming is "evidence".Caringtype1 (talk) 03:48, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Are you trying to be obtuse? Wikipedia readers are internet users. Google has 90% of the search engine market in the UK and 67% in the US, the two largest English speaking countries. This doesn't account for those who know what Google is, but choose to use another engine. The minimum is nearly 80% of the internet users actually using Google, let alone knowing what it is. There is no nonsense on my part, just a lot of WP:IDHT on yours. Niteshift36 (talk) 04:01, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

You're joking, right? You said what you want to say several times, now you're done. If you try to spew more irrelevant facts about Google onto my talk page, i'll remove it.(Also see this, especially because you got you're way). The sad fact is that you have no argument, I had better things to do than listen to your incoherent babble.Caringtype1 (talk) 04:04, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I'd agree that Google is certainly overlinking and reverting there valid contributions based on these guidelines using edit summaries like "don't be riduclous" is not appropriate. TB randley 22:47, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Ok....? I already resolved the issue with the user above. It wasn't necessary for you to jump in here.Caringtype1 (talk) 22:50, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Seriously?

You are edit warring over including a cast split in a series that has aired 2 episodes...? MisterShiney ✉ 23:20, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

For the record, it's not a criticism, just on a bemused observation. Just don't get the insanity of having a split section at this time. MisterShiney ✉ 23:21, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Seriously what? Your argument made no sense and was disproven, time for you to move on...Caringtype1 (talk) 23:23, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Disproven how...? I seem to recall pointing out that we couldn't possibly know who was reoccurring after only a couple of episodes - which makes perfect sense to me- and someone said yes we could without really saying much else. I'm not saying it won't happen in a couple of episodes more, just seems to be jumping the gun when no official source has said who is reoccurring. MisterShiney ✉ 23:42, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Do you mean someone like Raul Esparza, who has yet to appear, because if so I agree that we can't determine if they will become recurring yet. But for characters that have already appeared, we can certainly tell who is recurring versus who is regular.Caringtype1 (talk) 23:48, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

How? Lol. The only thing you can tell after 2 episodes is the two central characters. Any way buddy/buddette, this wasn't meant to be a full blown discussion, but just an observation on the silliness of the edit history on the topic. MisterShiney ✉ 00:03, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, LOL! By the way, we can tell the full main cast by the opening credits.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:08, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

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I agree that a page needs to be made, so time permitting, I'll see what i can come up with.Caringtype1 (talk) 22:50, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

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Not exactly sure what you're trying to say, but since the series has been off the air since January 2012 (15 months ago), the durations are listed separately.Caringtype1 (talk) 20:57, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

So what about Kassie DePaiva and Florencia Lozano's portrayals of their respective characters until December 2012 on General Hospital? Four months of not appearing necessitates a comma break? Erika Slezak's Viki was noticeably absent for two months in 2010 following back surgery. Should a comma be used there too?

FrickFrack 21:01, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Oh, right, I had forgotten about their appearances on GH, in that case I'm not sure what the right thing to do is. Since the page is for OLTL cast members, I think it would be fine to separate the appearances, because it has been a year since their last OLTL appearance. On the GH cast page we didn't list the OLTL actors from their start date on OLTL.Caringtype1 (talk) 21:05, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

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Talk to the other user. I don't think they are trying to screw up the article. I think this is a misunderstanding that can be easily sorted out, if you make a little effort. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 03:13, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps placing the vandalism tag was not the right course of action given the editor's experience and status. However past altercations with that editor prove they make discussion and collaboration impossible. Their abrasive and commandeering tone do not make them an editor I look forward to working with again.

Also may I ask you, Jack Sebastian, how the issue came to your attention?Caringtype1 (talk) 22:01, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

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We have been listing the networks for soap operas as "CBS Daytime" for quite some time now. It was actually required during a GA review once that the link to "CBS" be changed to "CBS Daytime". Just wanted to clarify that. Creativity97 15:58, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I wasn't aware of that. (Even though it makes absolutely no sense.)Caringtype1 (talk) 17:43, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm actually not quite sure either why we should be linking to a programming block rather than the network, but I don't think it's a big deal. Creativity97 19:16, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

I guess it's best not to make a big deal of it, but perhaps it should be brought up at WP:SOAPS.Caringtype1 (talk) 19:24, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

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Hello

Hello Caringtype1, I am SoapFan12, the nominator for Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Younger Actress in a Drama Series for an featured list. I was wondering if you are interested to look at Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama Series and Younger Actor to see if they are ready for a FL considerartion? SoapFan12 23:59, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello, yes I'm definitely interested in taking a look at the articles, and getting them ready for FL. Although, did you mean Younger Actor, because you linked to Actress, which is already listed. Either way, I'll look at both.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:06, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I meant Younger Actor. That great. Thank you! This means a lot. I hope one day we can co-nominated an article. SoapFan12 00:09, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Well, I look forward to collaborating with you.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:15, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Me too. I am very excited. As you can see Arre 9, said that a legend box should be added to Younger Actress. Do you know what she meant by a legend box? Furthermore, she said that it should be add to all Daytime Emmy Awards articles. I'm Not sure waht to add. SoapFan12 00:25, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed that too. I'm not really sure what she means by a legend box either. There's nothing at WP:legenbox, so your best bet is probably asking Arre 9 and/or another editor for clarification.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:28, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes I've asked. I am just wainting for her to respond. I think it's for me to be patient. I am just super excited on getting my first achievement on Wikipedia. I'm glad you could help me. Thank you again. I am hoping I could at least 2 articles to become an FL before the Daytime Emmys this year. Furthermore, if you have an extra time, do you mind working on Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Drama Series and Actor only if you wish. SoapFan12 00:37, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I will help out those articles when I have time, but for right now let's see how the FLN turns out for Younger Actress, and then peruse more Fls.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:41, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I agree. That what I was exactly thinking. Do you know long it usually takes until it becomes an FL. It's been almost an month I have nominated it. For example, 84th Academy Awards article was nominated after me however pass for a FL like two weeks ago. I am very hurt. SoapFan12 00:47, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Answers about how long it usually takes are here. Don't feel hurt, these things take time. And even if it doesn't pass to FL, it's not necessarily a bad thing. It's your first nomination, it's a learning experience.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:56, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for saying that. Do you know any other editors that would be interested on reviewing and give me feedbacks on Younger Actress? If you do, can you kindly ask them if they could SoapFan12 00:59, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

One of the FLC directors is probably your best bet. The only one I'm familiar with is The Rambling Man, but I'm sure anyone would be willing to help. (EC) I'm fine with waiting and seeing what comments come in on their own, but if you're anxious to get it passed, you can leave a talk page message.Caringtype1 (talk) 01:06, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

You know what, I think I should be patient however if I have to wait an excellent amount of waiting, I might need have to. I know that you mostly work on articles related to General Hospital. Therefore do you watch it, if you do what are you're thoughts on GH, so far? SoapFan12 01:15, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I do watch GH, and I am so happy to finally have someone to discuss it with! So thanks! As for the show right now, I have to admit I'm a little disappointed with the returns of Howarth, Alderson, and Easton. But, overall the show has been moving in a great direction this year, so I'm happy!Caringtype1 (talk) 01:20, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm happy that Alderson plays the missing Quartermaine heir. However Howarth as Franco is a disappointing and Easton as Silas is a big waste of time. What do you think about Emme Rylan playing Lulu? In my opinion, she's okay. I think she will earn an emmy nomination next year, well I hope. I am so happy that Lulu and Dante are reunited. Their reunion was very cute. SoapFan12 01:52, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I liked Alderson as a love interest for Michael, so the fact that they're playing cousins makes me worrisome. I'd much prefer to see her as Lauren Jerome's sister. I'm not familiar with Rylan's work from The Young and Restless, but I think she's fine as Lulu. I really liked Berman as Lulu, and think she'll win the Emmy this year. I'm not sure Rylan will be nominated next year, though. She doesn't seem to be the type that goes for those "Emmy bait" scenes. I but enjoyed her reunion with Dante.Caringtype1 (talk) 10:23, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I guess that the writers and producers wanted desperately someone to play Lauren. Yes, Berman has lots of chances of winning however the other nominees have amazing scenes. That why I think Supporting Actor and Actress are very competitive. Yes, I think you're right but Rylan did a great scene of her reunion with Dante. If I was her, I would submit that scene. I'm saying this because she never got those great scenes on Y&R. She always played a kid/teenager. By the way, do you watch soaps other than GH? SoapFan12 10:43, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I guess I should see how the story plays out before rushing to any judgements about Alderson as Lauren. No, I don't watch any other daytime soaps, I vaguely know the stories on Days of Our Lives, and I don't either CBS show. I do watch the online reboots of All My Children, and One Life to Live, do you watch those?Caringtype1 (talk) 15:13, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I watch all the other soaps (DAYS, Y&R and B&B). I wish I could watch the reboots however I live in Canada therefore I am not able to :(. Again, Thank you so much for agreeing to help. This means so much. SoapFan12 18:35, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

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Hey there, I was wondering are External links needed for the Emmy Awards articles? SoapFan12 23:59, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I think it could go either way. External links are always good to have, but not absolutely necessary. But I'd remove the ones from Soapcentral, with it's reliability in question, it's better to leave if off.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:15, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Okay. How are you? What did you think about GH today episode? Also, I just got another review for Younger Actress. I've fixed it all, can you check If I did it properly? SoapFan12 00:23, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm good, how are you? I thought GH was solid today, but I'm really not liking Franco. Howarth is a great actor, but bringing Franco back just makes no sense. Also, is it necessary to include the double dagger symbol? I think the yellow, with the key is enough, what do you think?Caringtype1 (talk) 01:12, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm fine. Yes, Howarth is a great actor but him as Franco is not working. I love Maura West as Ava Jerome. What do you mean it's not necessary to include the double dagger? Do you mean to not include it on the legend or winners and nominees section? SoapFan12 01:33, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I'm loving Maura West. She's great! On the winners and nominees section, it doesn't really seem necessary to identify the winners in two different ways, the color coding seems like enough to me.Caringtype1 (talk) 02:34, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

I do agree with you. However, a reviewer told me to add it. What should I do? Also, does that mean everything I did was done properly? SoapFan12 02:49, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

It appears you've done everything correctly. The reviewer suggested it, but I don't think it's that big of a deal if it's not included. Also shouldn't the key and the sentence explaining the table be moved to under the Winners and Nominees heading?Caringtype1 (talk) 03:27, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes. You are right, it's not a big deal if the double dagger is not present. I agree it should be under the winners and nominees. Thank you for the help. :) SoapFan12 03:32, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Also are retrieval dates needed for external links? I don't think they are.Caringtype1 (talk) 03:37, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

To be honest, I don't know. However, I agree with you because their not references. Also, is there any other suggestions? I would really like to hear some. SoapFan12 03:40, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

No other big suggestions, the article is looking very good. Just a couple minor sentence structure things that I can fix myself.Caringtype1 (talk) 03:44, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Okay. That great! Thank you so much for helping me. Furthermore, I was wondering if you could find images of the Daytime Emmy Award trophy or people presenting Younger Actress? (I can't find some) I think adding an image to the info box is needed. It would make it look more professional and it would be a nice visual representation for the readers. What do you think? SoapFan12 03:50, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

The image that was removed can be re-added once a non-free media rationale is added the image's page for the Younger Actress article. See WP:FUR.Caringtype1 (talk) 03:59, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks again. SoapFan12 04:03, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Therefore, are you able to re-add the image for me? By, adding the non-free media rationale. I have no idea how to do it myself. Sorry if I sound annoying. Please. SoapFan12 23:25, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

I have never done it either, so it will take some reading up for me to do, and it won't be swiftly. The earliest I can get to it would be tomorrow night, but I can do it then. For future reference it's all explained in the link I provided above. Take care.Caringtype1 (talk) 23:31, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Since I'll be busy these upcoming days, I've left additional comments for YA, so you can review them. Take care.Caringtype1 (talk) 02:35, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. Take care. SoapFan12 10:44, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

By the way, I don't see why having a lot of repetition in lead paragraph is a problem. Can you explain? Thank you for adding additional comments :). Take care. SoapFan12 10:52, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Sorry!

Thank you so much fir agreeing to help. I'm so happy that I've asked you to help me. I think you should be very proud of yourself. You are a fantastic and a great editor! This means a lot. Again, I hope I did not harm on us collaborating together. Also, when YA passes for FL (well I hope), if you are still interested on working on the Emmy Awards articles. I think we should split on the articles we shoud work on. For example, I will work on Lead Actress and you will work on Lead Actor. Also, we should include Kelly Marie 0812, she did start on helping me. By the way, do you know what happen to her, I haven't seen her on Wikipedia lately? SoapFan12 20:25, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Hey sorry I didn't respond sooner, I've been busy. But I still want to collaborate with you on the Emmy articles. Caringtype1 (talk) 00:44, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

That great! I am happy that we could still collaborate. Also, do you know how to get reliable source for the leads for emmy articles? I want to start the lead for Lead Actress after YA becomes an FL. SoapFan12 00:48, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

if YA becomes a FL! Don't get ahead of yourself! Probably googling would provide a lot of sources, although the early years could be more difficult.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:56, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes if...LoL! Giants2008 is going on and on about the alt text, I've read the requirements of WP:Alt text and believe that I followed them. But the user doesn't agree so I told him to do it for me. Is it asking to much... I don't think I should of ask the user to do anything for me. This user is only there to review. What do you think? Did I make a mistake? SoapFan12 01:06, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

That reviewer has made no attempts to clarify what they mean. You did nothing wrong.Caringtype1 (talk) 01:13, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Ok that great! Thank you for the support. So I had a look at FL articles that uses images and the caption says the name of the recipient than the year for example Grammy Award for Best Dance Recording and even more categories for Grammys. Do you think this user meant that? For example should it be stated as the following: Julie Marie Bearman, two time emmy winner. SoapFan12 01:21, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Never mind! I figure it out! SoapFan12 00:34, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

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Hey there, How are you? I know you have been very busy lately but I was wondering if you have any additional comments for YA for FL consideration? By the way, I finally understood what alt text meant. SoapFan12 20:26, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Also, I found the following image for YA infobox : http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=354068648009743&set=a.354068088009799.83630.171650939584849&type=3&theater. Should I upload it? SoapFan12 20:45, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Hey, I've been good, no additional comments. I think you should, since doing more research I see the statuette image isn't necessary since the award has its own page.Caringtype1 (talk) 22:55, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

I have added the image to YA? How does it look? By the way what did you think about GH today? It was bit boring. I was so scared for Danny! :(. I like Sabrina and Felix team work. Also, Taylor and the Britch are hilarious. Britt is a character I love to hate. SoapFan12 02:46, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

The image looks good. I enjoyed GH today. Giving Danny cancer wasn't necessary at all! I really like Sabrina-multiple-roomates story! I really like Britt, and not in a love-to-hate way. Also don't be discouraged by that editor that kept removing the image. They were a total jerk. They probably aren't used to interacting with new users, because they have no manners whatsoever. Most editors aren't as rude.Caringtype1 (talk) 10:57, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for saying that. Those editors were unbelievable rude and I was a bit discouraged. But now I'm fine, nothing they can say will make me stop editing. I have a feeling that YA is going to pass for an FL! You? But if It doesn't, I won't lie I will be very hurt but like you said it will be my first nomination. I think they should of waited later before giving Danny cancer, maybe when he's becomes 4, it would of been bit more interesting. SoapFan12 18:48, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you taking the defence for YA image. It means a lot. What did you think about GH today. I'm loving Franco even though I rather James Franco playing him. Maura West is killing it! Sonny, Carly and Shawn plan backfired in there face! That was funny. As much, as I hate Franco, I wouldn't mind him not being dead. I hope they won't make Kiki and Michael too close for them to end up kissing even though I would love Kristen Alderson being paired with Michael. But they are cousins! Disgusting! Also, have you watched the emmy reels for any of the categories. If you did, who do you think will win? SoapFan12 22:09, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

I really liked James Franco's arc, so I just cannot get into Howarth playing him. There is no way they can redeem that character. The rest was pretty good, really liking Maura West, despite her unfortunate storyline. The only emmy reel I watched by Julie Marie Berman's, which I thought was awesome. I loved all of Lulu's story lines from about summer 2011 to Feb. 2012. That was the last time the character had any depth. So I'm hoping she wins.Caringtype1 (talk) 23:46, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

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Guess what?! We did it!!! YA became an FL today! I am so happy! Thank you so much for being there during the process! :) SoapFan12 23:56, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Wow!! Congratulations, that's such a huge accomplishment!!Caringtype1 (talk) 00:07, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Are you ready to do more FLs? If you are not it's very understandable. But if you are, tell me and we will see how were going to do that. SoapFan12 00:11, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes, and I'm definitely interested in doing more FAs, but I think we should take our time. We shouldn't nominate another one right away, but work on them a bit. It's still my busy season, so I can't dedicate all my time to them just yet. But my busy seasons ends in about a month.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:24, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

That's great. I do agree that we should take our time however I believe that Younger Actor is ready for an FL. Should I nominate it? SoapFan12 00:33, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

I've already nominated it. I believe that it meets the criteria. If you don't please tell me. Also, what do you think abot GH lately? SoapFan12 21:18, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I just added my support. GH has been just okay lately. I'm still not over this Franco thing, and Olivia getting shot was just pointless. I do enjoy Patrick and Sabrina as a couple, but the writing for those scenes just feels so half-assed. TJ and Taylor are adorable together!Caringtype1 (talk) 21:22, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the support. This was exactly what I was thinking, Olivia being shot is a waste of time. I like Patrick and and Sabrina however, Robin is alive when she comes back Partick is going to dump Sabrina and I don't want her to be hurt. TJ and Taylor are adorable and very hot but I think they met in the wrong time. He obviously wants to be with Molly. SoapFan12 21:46, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't see Robin coming back anytime soon, but you never know! I wish they would have taken the time to organically break up TJ and Molly.They were really good together. But I really like Molly with Rafe, too.Caringtype1 (talk) 21:51, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I agree. Are you going to watch the emmys? I'm going to and very excited. Also, I know you have told me that you're busy season is almost over however can you tell what emmy awards article you like to work on or co-work on with me? SoapFan12 21:55, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I am very excited about the emmys!! I think Supporting Actress, and the Lead articles, because they need the most work.Caringtype1 (talk) 22:05, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Yay!. Also, I think we should only work (when you're busy season is over) on the articles you have listed because Kelly Marie 0812 has been working on Supporting Actor however she hasn't been on wiki lately so I leave it for her comeback. Also, are you going to work on it alone or are going to co-work, i'm think co-work. You? By the way, let me know when you know the date or month you are going to work on it. If I sound annoying, I'm very sorry. I just look forward to collaborate with you. SoapFan12 22:55, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Definitely co-work. Collaboration always provides the best results. Then we can (hopefully) co-nominate together, but if you'd prefer to nominate on your own, I'm fine with that. I'll start working on them, as soon as things stop being so hectic for me, around the end of the month.Caringtype1 (talk) 22:59, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that why I said I want to co-work and I want to co-nominate. Also, have I told you I am terrible at doing leads?! But I am going to try my best and work on the leads (with you). SoapFan12 23:04, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Haha, well I look forward to working on them with you.Caringtype1 (talk) 23

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Hahha. Do you know what should be mostly said on the leads? I know about the actor who has reached most wins and nominations. I kind a want to work on Lead or Supporting Actress soon because I am having more extra time. Wait, can I? SoapFan12 23:32, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Leads are mostly for history of the award, when it was first given, who won, etc. Of course you can work on any article you want whenever you want. I know that free time is valuable, so use it while you have it!Caringtype1 (talk) 23:36, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

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I've done the lead for Supporting Actress. Do you mind editing/correct it? Please (only do it if you're not busy or you do feel like it). SoapFan12 23:15, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

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Sorry again but did you get my message about Supporting Actress? SoapFan12 02:21, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I did. I just glanced at the page quickly, but it looks good. I examine it closer when I get the chance.Caringtype1 (talk) 02:24, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

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You must be very happy that Julie Marie Berman won supporting actress she deserved it and Kristen Alderson for younger. I'm happy for them but I wanted someone else to win other than KA. Also, what do you think about GH? I wonder how they are going to write by having Rafe stay, he is obviously not leaving the show. I love Nancy Lee Grahn and Sean Blakemore's acting and as a on-screen duo. Oh, Kiki and Michael kiss was hot sadly they are cousins :(. At least they are a couple in real life. SoapFan12 11:17, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

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Hey there

Hey there, I haven't seen you on Wikipedia lately, I hope everything okay. What do you think about GH lately. I am loving it, I can't believe that Ava is the one that shot Olivia. I hope Elizabeth forgives A.J. because I hate Nikolas soo much! I have a feeling that it Britt is actually carrying Patrick's kid. Oh, I am so scared for Luke :(!!! What do you think? Also, don't forget to tell me when we are going to start on the Lead articles. I did some work on Supporting Actor and Actress, you can make some corrections and edits if you wish. If you do, please do because we are co-working together and it will be so much help and progress. Regards, :) SoapFan12 01:55, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Hey I'm actually out of the country right now on vacation, so I haven't been editing and havent seem GH, I'll be back on a couple of days.Caringtype1 (talk) 09:37, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Oh okay, Have a nice trip!!! You are so lucky! :) SoapFan12 09:44, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

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Younger Actor is a Featured list!!!

Hey, how are you? Are u back from you're vacation? How was it? I hope you had fun and relax there. Guess what? Younger Actor is a Featured list!! I am very happy! By the way, Thanks for the support!!! Currently, I am working on supporting actress. I know that we have agreed to work/co-nominate on an article, I would like to do that however currently I am planning on co-nominating with another user (Arre 9) who is very interested on doing supporting actress. I hope that doesn't bother you. We could do one of the lead actress together, if you wish. SoapFan12 12:04, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Hey I just got back from my vacation. It was a great and much needed break! Congrats on YA! That's quite the accomplishment! And yes, I was thrilled for JMB and KA on Emmy night! That's fine about SA, I think I'd like to work on Lead Actress next. I'll start to take a look at that one. Caringtype1 (talk) 15:45, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

When are u planning to start Outstanding Lead Actress? I suggest working on the lead and I've a great information to add to lead actress'S lead. SoapFan12 16:20, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

I'll probably start later today, there are some little things that can be taken care of easily, and then the lead of course.Caringtype1 (talk) 16:40, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

I started to expand the lead a bit, if that's okay. You could do what you need to do. SoapFan12 18:14, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Lead Actress

I don't want to sound pushy or a stalker however I haven't seen you do any edits for Outstanding Lead Actress. Is there something wrong, because if you are no longer interested, its fine. It is you're choice. SoapFan12 14:02, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

I started looking at it last night, and I made notes of what edits I was going to do, but something came up that I had to deal with. I'm still interested.Caringtype1 (talk) 15:17, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Okay, that awesome!!!Yay! hey, I am wondering if you are able to share you're notes of what edits you were going to do. We can discuss it together, if you wish. SoapFan12 18:22, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

I have nominated SA, is it possible if you can give me some feedbacks/comments? It will be greatly appreciated! SoapFan12 18:45, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

I don't think it is necessary to discuss every little change, but if their is something you disagree with, then we can discuss it.Caringtype1 (talk) 23:13, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

You're right, I understand. I hate if I will sound pushy or annyoing however is it possible if you can give me some feedbacks/comments on SA, the link is the following: Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama Series/archive1. SoapFan12 00:13, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

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Distinction for Lead Actress

I strongly believe that the distinction is enough, that the hatnote is unneeded for Lead Actress. It should be remove. Again, I hate if I will sound pushy or annyoing however is it possible if you can give me some feedbacks/comments on SA, the link is the following: Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama Series/archive1. It will mean the world to me, if you would be willing. SoapFan12 23:02, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

I strongly disagree about the hat note, the difference of titles is a couple of letters, and the two are very easily confused. You should bring it up on the talk page. If I think of a comment or something for SA, i'll add it.Caringtype1 (talk) 23:44, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I will bring it up on the talk page. Does it mean you can give you're support on SA? SoapFan12 23:59, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

I haven't had a chance to go through it thoroughly. I don't want to give my support prematurely.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:01, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok. I have brought it up on the talk page. By the way, how is going with Lead Actress. Have you done any major edits so far? Have you expanded the lead? Also, what do you think about GH so far? SoapFan12 00:08, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

I've yet to make any 'major' edits, but I'll work on the lead tonight. GH has been a mess lately. I've had enough of Franco.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:15, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Okay. That great. Do you need help for anything? It would be my pleasure to help you. Yes, Franco has been onscreen a bit too much. But I still like Ava. Maura West has a great talent and shouldn't be use for this kind of storyline. Molly, T.J. is getting a bit boring. Same as the Patrick, Britt and Sabrina storyline, I used to be so excited for that storyline. At least, we know it's not Patrick's baby! The Kiki, Morgan and Micheal storyline getting a bit boring. Overall, GH has been a huge mess. SoapFan12 00:23, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Also, I've got a great information for Lead Actress, but I don't know how to use it, plus it need re-wording it goes like this: In 2002, when the presenters announced Susan Flannery's name the "Flannery" part was unintelligible to those in the control booth, who started to play the "All My Children" (1970) theme music and cut to a shot of actress Susan Lucci having a conversation backstage. The camera stayed on the shocked Lucci as Rosie O'Donnell, hearing the music, told her to go on stage. The camera then cut as Susan Flannery made it up the stairs to accept the award and Lucci returned backstage. Producer 'Dick Clark' apologized for the mistake the following day.. If you could re-worded to make shorter. That would be great! What do you think? Is it needed? SoapFan12 00:26, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm not so sure that is necessary to include.Caringtype1 (talk) 01:15, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

I believe that it is necessary. I'll just ask around, to see what they think. If you could do the same, that would be great! SoapFan12 01:27, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

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Once Supporting Actress passes for an FL, I'll be nominating Lead Actress. Is it okay? SoapFan12 17:13, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Lead Actress looks good, I can't think of any more bug changes that need to be made. Caringtype1 (talk) 17:53, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Okay. Great! Supporting Actress reached to an FL status, yay! Now, I can nominate Lead Actress, however first can you please tell me, what would you like to say (few sentences, why do you think it should become a FL.) Just write them in you're respond, and I'll paste it, into to FL canditates article. SoapFan12 22:48, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

This article meets every one of the Featured List criteria. There are plenty of reliable sources, and the information is presented in a clear and understandable way. Many issues and problems have been addressed in the months of improvements made to the article. We feel this article more than qualifies for Featured List status.Caringtype1 (talk) 22:58, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Awesome! The featured list nomination article link is : Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Drama Series/archive1. By the way, what do you think about GH so far? I am loving Silas and Ava, it seems that Silas is Kiki's father. What do you think? SoapFan12 23:11, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, and congratulations on Supporting Actress becoming a FL! I'm really liking Silas and Ava too, and I definitely think Kiki will turn out to be Silas' daughter. GH has been pretty good lately.Caringtype1 (talk) 23:15, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Yeah, GH is awesome. Like I watch every single american soaps, GH is my top favorite. I can't believe it almost got cancel. We need more writers and producers like the GH ones, on the other soaps cuz the CBS soaps are a bit drowning. By the way. do you know Rena Sofer? If you do, she is on The Bold and the Beautiful now, she first aired on Friday as woman named Quinn Fuller. SoapFan12 23:21, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

I did hear something about Rena Sofer joining The Bold and the Beautiful. I loved her as Lois on GH, and wish her luck in whatever she does. Is she on contract with TBATB, or is it just a guest appearance?Caringtype1 (talk) 23:25, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Actually, she is on contract wich I don't understand because she's been on so much great movies. Now, she is back on a soap, and that causes a lot of damages to her career, in my opinion. I'm guessing, she will become front and center on this soap. SoapFan12 23:28, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Well, I wish her luck, and at still she has a steady job.Caringtype1 (talk) 23:34, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, she's a great actress and I wish her luck to. She has a job! What else could she ask! By the way, If you have any users that are interested on giving comments, please ask them if they can. It will be great! SoapFan12 23:40, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

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Are we going to do Inhan's idea or what's the deal with that? P.J. (talk) 05:43, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

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Hey there, you know what funny? Is that, we were both editting Lead Actress at the same time and exact same edit, that causes an edit conflict....LOL. By the way, how are you? SoapFan12 Talk page here 22:32, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Oh, really? I didn't even notice, that is funny! I'm good! How've you been?Caringtype1 (talk) 22:39, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

I have been good. Lead Actress looks great so far, also I have been talking to a delegate and we have 3 supports, so it is ready for an FL status but it has been up only for seven days. Therefore, he said in three days, if everything has completed, he will promoted! Yay! By the way, what article do you want to work on next, Lead Actor or Supporting Actor? SoapFan12 Talk page here

22:45, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Great! Hopefully it will be passed in the next few days! Next, I'd like to do Lead Actor. Quickly looking at it, I see there are some non-free images of the winners. I don't think they are needed at all.Caringtype1 (talk) 22:51, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

So, you don't think non-free images are needed? It is not essential but IMO, we kind of need a some images of the actor. Also, would you like to put you're opinions on Overlinking/Underlinking on the FLC page of Lead Actress. SoapFan12 Talk page here

22:57, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

It's a bit of excessive use of non-free images, that's really not needed. But it's only two, the rest are from the Commons, so I think we have enough.Caringtype1 (talk) 22:59, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I get where you are coming from. Furthermore, are you still willing on giving you're opinions on Overlinking/Underlinking on the FLC page of Lead Actress? SoapFan12 Talk page here

23:03, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Just did!Caringtype1 (talk) 23:05, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Perfect! I can't beleive that there is 3 Emmy Award articles (hopefully soon to be 4) that have become featured lits! Thank you so much for being interested, if not I wouldn't be able to pull this off! You should be very proud of yourself! SoapFan12 Talk page here

23:09, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Also, for Lead Actress, I will adding Viki Lord to every, year where Erika Slezak is nominated since it her character's common name, is that okay? SoapFan12 Talk page here

23:11, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Uh, I'm not so sure about that. Shouldn't it go by what the sources say for each year? In some cases, the sources will say Viki Lord, but others, for example ref 63, they don't. Also are you sure about that being her common name, her article isn't even called that.Caringtype1 (talk) 23:19, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Maybe, Victoria Lord is her common name. Okay, sure, let's go with what the sources say. SoapFan12 Talk page here

23:23, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Wow, there are a lot of inconsistencies with that. I thought I took care of most of them, guess not!Caringtype1 (talk) 23:25, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

So are you going to work on them now? I just did it for Victoria Lord, but are going to do the rest of nominees?If you are, please tell me so we won't end up in a edit conflict. LOL SoapFan12 Talk page here

23:33, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

They really shouldn't be that huge of a problem, but I'll take a look at the rest of the nominees. I'll do it tomorrow, right now I have somewhere to be. Take care!Caringtype1 (talk) 23:36, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok You, take care. SoapFan12 Talk page here

23:37, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Did you decide just to ignore me caringtype cuz I asked you a question, heck I even posted it on your talk page like last week and you still haven't responded, are we going to go with Inhan's idea or what, and you never ever replied back to me, I was gone for the most part all of not this past week but the week before, my Grandpa died, and I was in Minnesota and I thought we were going with Inhan's idea, but it hasn't been done yet. Are we still going to plan on doing it or what? I have no idea what were doing. P.J. (talk) 03:03, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

I'd appreciate it if you'd start a new section of my talk page, if you have something to say. I was out of town when I got your message, and I forgot to answer it when I returned home. For that I'm sorry, and I'm sorry to hear about your grandfather. If you want to go forward with Inhan's idea that is fine, but I won't be making the change, as I don't see anything with the way it is now.Caringtype1 (talk) 03:14, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok this is what I did

I added a new section for the current actors who are on the show that has multiple roles, I added all of the characters including the current characters, I didn't know whether or not I should've just added the past characters and left the current ones out. But I hope ya like it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_General_Hospital_cast_members Please tell me whatcha think P.J. (talk) 05:32, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Looks good, we'll see what other editors think.Caringtype1 (talk) 05:39, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

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So let me get this straight - I'm being 100 percent genuine - you're actually advocating putting incorrect information on Wikipedia? Could you explain to me why? I made a pretty clear logical explanation - namely, the information is wrong and shouldn't be listed - and you ignored the entire argument in favor of simply issuing orders. I'd actually truly like to understand why you think that Wikipedia should contain inaccuracies. I'm genuinely serious. I want to understand why you keep editing false statements into a wiki. You seem like a serious editor so I don't get it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.28.241.10 (talk) 23:18, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

I really want to discuss this with you by I'm away from my house for the night and don't want to use my phone to do this. Let's both leave it alone until I can properly state my case in a few hours thanksCaringtype1 (talk) 19:20, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Hello, and sorry for the delay in response. First of al, let me just say when you're writing on my talk page, create a new section and sign your comments. Also this issue probably should have been brought up on the article's talk page, since it is about content of the article. Here on Wikipedia, we use reliable sources and the information they provide to create and structure articles. We have reliable sources that say Ms. Greene has joined the series in a recurring capacity. We have no other information from reliable sources saying that role was reduced, if there were production issues preventing further appearances, or if the recurring status was an accumulation of both seasons. That is why the article is set up the way it is, and why our hands are tide when it comes to changing it. Hopes this clears things up.Caringtype1 (talk) 19:20, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

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This is for you being so kind and nice to users, especially to me. You defended me in all situation I've been in. You defending me, meant the world to me. I am very happy I have someone out there willing to do that. You go to the extra mile to be nice, without being asked. You are a great partner, and I am so happy that we got to work on the list Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Drama Series together! I hope we could do it again! You truly deserved this barnstar! Keep up, being kind! SoapFan12 ^Talk

21:32, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks you so much! This is my first Barnstar, so I'm pretty excited about it! lol! But Status' comment was really a bit absurd. They didn't back up what they said with any legitimate accusation or concern! The whole thing was just very strange. You're welcome, I'll defend you anytime because you're always so kind and have the best of intentions. Thanks again!Caringtype1 (talk) 21:37, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

100% my thoughts about Status' comment. You're welcome for the barnstar, you deserve it! Thank you for saying those kind words! Please, don't thanked me, you deserved the award. Also, I'm going to ask you this, its going to sound a bit wierd but are you a her or him. I'm a guy, what are you? lol SoapFan12 ^Talk

21:48, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Lol, I'm a guy. I know it gets very tricky not knowing which pronoun to use. lol.Caringtype1 (talk) 22:19, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Okay. Great! Glad everything worked out! — SoapFan12 ^Talk

23:01, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Hey, is there a reason you've been unlinking Daytime Emmy Award in all the articles? Don't you think that should be linked somewhere in the article. The lead seems like the best place to do so. Also in the infoboxes, I feel it necessary to mention the series the most recent recipient came from. It clarifies things, the award isn't given to an actor/ess based on their body of work for a year, but their submitted scenes from a particular series.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:13, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I totally agree with you! I have put everything back to the way it was! There is nothing to worry about now. — SoapFan12 ^Talk

13:14, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Irina Cassadine Edit

I removed Irina from the family tree on the Cassadine family page because per Soap Opera Digest, Irina is Helena's daughter and not Mikkos.' Also on the actual show itself, they never said Mikkos was her father, just that Helena is her mother. She can be added back to the tree as Helena's daughter, but there would have to be another branch indicating that she is Helena's daughter with another man. Here is a copy of the Soap Opera Digest article so you can see for yourself. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A94FCghCIAAV3wi.jpg:large Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 18:34, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok, sorry, I misunderstood your edit, you're correct since she isn't Mikkos' daughter. But she should be included in the family tree, since she is apart of the family.Caringtype1 (talk) 18:38, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

I agree and I tried to include her as Helena's daughter with an unknown man, but it made the tree look confusing to me, so I removed her all together. Maybe you can find a way to make it work. Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 18:41, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

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Design User page

Hey, how are you? I was wondering if you would let me design you're user page? Sorry, I love designing user pages, you should check mine. Give me you're opinion about it! — SoapFan12 ^Talk 20:09, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Hey, I'm fine, how are you? About the user page, I'm not sure, I've always been meaning to change it up a bit. Well, what were you think, specifically? I like your page, and I don't want mine to be an exact copy of yours. Maybe you can show me what you were thinking in my subpage, that way I can see how it looks, and if I want to use it on mine.Caringtype1 (talk) 20:47, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

I am great. I was thinking a little like mine, but you should consult Wikipedia:User page design center/Introduction (I found great ideas on it). In you're subpage, you should add articles created/accomplishments/barnstars etc.... see (User:SoapFan12/Articles and Achievements). Also, you're userboxes should be cut in half, I mean half in the left and others in the right, it would look better IMO. Also, adding tables and colours, would be nice. What do you think you would like it to be? I am just throwing out some ideas, overall you should consult the design center then afterawards you can tell me what you would like to do or add it yourself. — SoapFan12 ^Talk

21:12, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I'll start reading that and then see what I'd like. Thanks!Caringtype1 (talk) 16:41, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay good! Hey, I added a new paragraph in Lucy Coe's reception section about her awards and nominations however I was wondering if you could correct the ? Please? It will be awesome if you would be willing. — SoapFan12 ^Talk

17:45, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Sure, on a side note I'd do anything to help that page! It's such a mess! lol!Caringtype1 (talk) 17:55, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Lol, also I have talked to a delegate and he said that the reason Lead Actress wasn't promoted because the canvassing disscusion isn't resolved and if he cleary reads the disscussion he should know what resolved meant. However, I should be patient! lol — SoapFan12 ^Talk

18:02, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Oh okay. Since that discussion has been resolved hopefully it'll pass soon.Caringtype1 (talk) 18:05, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Also, as soon as Lead Actress pass (hopefully), we can nominated Lead Actor. You? Furthermore, would you please correct the lead of Supporting Actor for me (spelling and grammar mistakes or even re-worded, please) — SoapFan12 ^Talk

18:08, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, next we'll nominate Lead Actor. Sure, I'll look at the SA lead.Caringtype1 (talk) 18:11, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you so much! You are so kind and awesome! — SoapFan12 ^Talk

18:20, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Ha, no problem!Caringtype1 (talk) 18:22, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

lol! Guess what, We did it! Lead Actress was promoted!!!!!!! YAY! Thank you so much for being a great partner! This you're first achivement, I believe! You should be very of yourself! I am so happy! Okay, so is Lead Actor good to go? If it is, can you please tell me what you want to say, and try to mention about no need to comment on overlinking and underlinking if you want (sorry but I am terrible english speaker and writer that why I rather you do it! LOL — SoapFan12 ^Talk

00:33, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

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The Original Barnstar

For your remarkable work on General Hospital related articles. You always want the best for those articles. You make sure that you say you're opinions are listen and most often you are exactly right. When I mean most often, I mean all the time! lol Great work! You work tirelessly and endlessly and it is seen and appreciated! Also, for helping me with the Daytime Emmy Awards articles, thank you so much! You deserved this barnstar! — SoapFan12 ^Talk

00:52, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Wow, thank you so much! That really means a lot coming from you! And Lead Actor looks good. I'll start thinking of what to say, I'll let you know tomorrow. Also congrats on Lead Actress! So happy that finally passed!Caringtype1 (talk) 01:40, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, you're welcome, it was my pleasure. — SoapFan12 ^Talk

03:25, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

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Hey, do you have what to say ready now? Also, what do you think about GH? I am loving it, the Ava and Julian story is the best. Wow, when GH cast people, they are very smart unlike other soaps they add additonal characters which are not needed at all but adding new characters in GH was the best thing that happen to the soap. — SoapFan12 ^Talk — SoapFan12 ^Talk 11:27, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey, sorry, there was a problem with my internet connection yesterday, so I couldn't get on all day. Here's what to say, "This article meets every one of the Featured List criteria. The article is thoroughly sourced, and well written. Issues and problems have been addressed according to the FL criteria, this is why we feel this article more than qualifies for Featured List status." Also, I'm not really sure what to make of this Jerome storyline on GH. I really wanted to like it, but now I'm starting to think it's the same storyline from last year, just replace the Scullys with the Jeromes. I also really hope they make Ava a stupid pawn in Julian's war with Sonny.Caringtype1 (talk) 17:49, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

No worries, I understand. I hate when that happens! lol Thanks. Really? Let's just see how everything will roll out. Okay, so the nomination page is right here. — SoapFan12 ^Talk

20:08, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Info-boxes

Not sure if you have picked up on this yet, but when a character is departing we do tend to add "(departing)" to the end, for clarification. The infobox should be on par with what's going on (e.g. if a musical album hasn't come out yet, the release date is still present). There is not last date yet, that means the character hasn't yet departed (hence "departing"). The info-box is there as a sort of summation of the article. Please stop reverting just because of your personal thoughts. Ar re 04:14, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but that would be summarizing an event (the character/actress actually leaving the series) which has not yet occurred. We don't do that. They are not my personal thoughts. It's Wikipedia policy.Caringtype1 (talk) 04:18, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Read WP:CRYSTALBALL again; It clearly indicates that Individual scheduled or expected future events should be included only if the event is notable and almost certain to take place. Again: If preparation for the event is not already in progress, speculation about it must be well documented. By adding 2011-13 and "(departing)" to the classification field, we are clarifying the character's exit, which is a notable event that is "almost certain" to occur. The character/actress' exit preparation is not only in progress but completed (she has already filmed her final scenes, if you didn't know), and WP:CRYSTALBALL indicates that this "must be well documented", and that should be included in the summation of the article (The info-box). however, we don't add exit dates because as WP:CRYSTALLBALL states, they aren't definite until after the event. So don't act as if we are completely disregarding Wikipedia policies when updating info-boxes :).Ar re 04:30, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

By "updating the infobox", you're basically saying "The character will depart the canvas. We don't have an exact date, by they say it'll be sometime soon, so let's go ahead and pretend like it already happened". I'm not going to revert it further (simply because I'm tired of trying to explain this to you), but just know that this will not become standard practice.Caringtype1 (talk) 04:36, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

I think you should practice what you preach and read WP:CRYSTALBALL further. Additionally, I have two questions. You have reverted my neatening up of the GH cast members list with a very weak reasoning, and I won't bother reverting. Also, why are you only raising up the article that I created (Britt Westbourne, well sourced, and the DYK reviewer found 0 issues - if an article wasn't needed, I'm sure the DYK reviewer would have said the subject is irrelevant) while there are PLENTY of other articles, created for characters with lesser impact and poor sources, that you're ignorant of? Have I done something that makes you want to focus on reverting my edits that have caused no harm and are completely justifiably correct, as well as state that the character I created an article for which is certainly notable, isn't, and you want the sourced content condensed and moved back into a list that isn't exactly FL material, just because you have minor issues with it? :/ I'm kinda upset. Also, the Britt discussion should be on her talk page, yet you have decided to discuss this on the GH character page, why is that? Ar re 04:47, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

The GH cast members page stacked the duration years, which draws from the easy readability and ascetic appeal of the table. I'm sure the DYK reviewer's inspection went a lot further than general notability, the reviewer most likely wasn't looking for those issues. I'm well aware that they are several poorly sourced articles on topics that are not notable. But it would be a very daunting task trying to merge/delete every single one of those. It is much easier to help stop the creation/spilt of these articles by questioning the notability of the newly created/spilt pages. That's why I chose Britt Westbourne. You haven't done anything to make me focus on your edits. I revert edits that I disagree with, and see as unhelpful, or just incorrect. So please don't think that I'm 'out to get you' or anything silly like that. Better sourced/ written sections would improve the character list, and the Britt Westbourne article isn't exactly FA material either. I brought up the issue on the article that the new article (BTW, articles don't have genders, lol!) was spilt from, and where there probably should have been a dissuasion in the first place.Caringtype1 (talk) 05:05, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Stacking isn't very appealing - isn't a good enough reason. I think you should see the discussion here. You are appearing to blatantly contradict what you're saying. I'm sorry you are still not making any relevant points here and not specifying issues with the Britt article. This aside, none of your reverts to my edits have been very helpful (I'm clearly demonstrated above how my infobox edits do not qualify as a violation of WP:CRYSTALBALL). I would be definitely open to merging Britt Westbourne if you actually bring up the issues with the article that make it so terribly non-noteworthy. BTW, articles don't have genders, lol! — you know what I meant.Ar re 05:37, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

I know stacking isn't very appealing, that is why I reverted your edit. I replied on the other page. And I know what you meant by saying "her talk page", I was trying to make a joke and light of the situation. Your tone was somewhat harsh and I was trying to lighten the mood. Try not to take things here so personally.Caringtype1 (talk) 05:41, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm done here. You are just making up reasons why the Britt article should be merged back into that article without proper reasons (identifying the specific issues). Don't start discussions if you can't back up what you feel. Ar re 06:03, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

That comment wasn't necessary. I already said I eft the conversation. It is pointless trying to explain things to you because "no one can ever edit your precious articles". Yeah, I'm done with your nonsense.Caringtype1 (talk) 06:06, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry

I know there has been lots of drama going around here. So I am very sorry that happen! :( Also, I want to apologize about me not supporting like you have done for me. I hope you can forgive me. I am very sorry. — SoapFan12 ^Talk 19:08, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Haha, you have nothing to apologize for! You support the edits you agree with, as do I.Caringtype1 (talk) 19:11, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I'm glad. Also, would you be interested on doing Drama Series, Writting Team and Directing Team for Daytime Emmys or would you want to focus with GH articles. Just lay on me, what kind of projects you want to do, and I'll see if I can help. — SoapFan12 ^Talk

19:17, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm definitely interested in doing Drama Series. WT and DT might be harder to get to FL due to less available sources, less high profile, etc. But I'd be happy to help clean them up a bit. I've actually been thinking about cutting back my time with GH articles, to cover a wider range of topics. I don't know, just something I've been thinking about.Caringtype1 (talk) 19:24, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Actually, the won't be hard, we can use Soap Opera Digest sources. Plus, I don't see issue having one ref for each nominees and winners. I've see lots of FLs using one ref. Also, if I were you I would add the barnstars that you have earned and you're achivement (FL - Lead Actress) on your user page. — SoapFan12 ^Talk

19:29, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, you're probably right. I'm not going to add those things to my user page, at least not now anyway.Caringtype1 (talk) 19:31, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

The Soap Opera Digest source are here. Maybe, we can start as soon as possible. — SoapFan12 ^Talk

19:47, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, great. Were you planning on doing Supporting Actor?Caringtype1 (talk) 19:49, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes I was and still am. However, I like preparing 2 or more articles at the same time. For example, if Supporting Actor passes for an FL, we can nominated Drama Series right after like we have done before. — SoapFan12 ^Talk

19:52, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, and I have no idea why that was bolded. Sorry about that. lolCaringtype1 (talk) 19:55, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Hahha lol. It was bolded because when you do this ″;″ before a sentence it happens. — SoapFan12 ^Talk

19:58, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Wow, and that's why I hate indenting. Lol. Caringtype1 (talk) 20:00, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Nominate new FLC, Drama Series

I am done working on Drama Series, what do you think? Is it ready for an FL? Also, I have talked to a delegate, to know if you are aloud to nominate a new FL even though you still have one open, he said yes but you need ask a delegate before (I have already did). So do you think, Supporting Actor is ready to be nominated? — SoapFan12 ^Talk 21:32, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

First of all let me say that I'm sorry I haven't been very helpful editing Drama Series these past three days. I decided to take a quick break to collect my thoughts. But it's looking good, just a few thoughts. Some years only have one reference, while others have two. Let me know if you need help finding more refs, because consistency is important. Also articles like this have sections where the total award number for networks are included, which is something to conducer adding. As a frequent reader of articles like these, it's very helpful information.Caringtype1 (talk) 21:52, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

TBH, I think the references should be left alone, I think it does not mater. However if you want to add additonal references, go ahead, do it. The same thing for networks, I think you should be left alone and if you want to do it, it is you're choice. — SoapFan12 ^Talk

21:58, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, that's fine. Also, in the Programs with most awards section, is it necessary to list the programs that only won once? I think those should be removed, and the section retitled Programs with multiple awards. But it's your call.Caringtype1 (talk) 22:08, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

There is nothing you have to apologize for, I understand. Also, is it okay if we nominate Supporting Actor? — SoapFan12 ^Talk

22:03, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for saying that, I just don't want you to feel like you're doing all the work. Supporting Actor is looking great, so yes!Caringtype1 (talk) 22:08, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Not at all, I do not feel like I am doing all the work. The program with most awards sectioN is just including how many times a series won, its not suppose to be a multiple award thing, before it use to be called Total awards won, but a reviwer from an old FLC told be to change the name to that. Also, are we co-nom supporting actor? — SoapFan12 ^Talk

22:14, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Also, what do you think about GH? — SoapFan12 ^Talk

22:15, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

I'd be happy to co-nom SA with you, but you did most of the work, so don't feel like you have to co-nom. I'd understand if you wanted to do it by yourself. GH has been solid. I really like the way the ELQ story is turning out. The Jeromes have been a disappointment, and have no idea what this Luke/Holly story is.Caringtype1 (talk) 22:19, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

I have decided to do it by myself. I hope you really understand. I totallY agree, I really like the ELQ story. Are you team Tracy or AJ? You're right, the Jeromes are boring but OMG Maura West is an amazing actress, I understand how she won two Daytime Emmy Awards for Lead Actress. Morgan is obsessed with Kiki, in my opinion he does not love Kiki he just wants to beat his brother. But I have to agree with him for one thing, Sonny and Carly act like Michael is their favorite child, that why I kind of feel bad for him. The Luke/Holly story is okay, but I am just gonna to wait how it is all going to turn out. — SoapFan12 ^Talk

22:33, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

That's totally fine. I'm totally Team Tracy. Tracy's at her best when she has power over people. AJ had no right to steal the company away from her. Maura West is so great! I kind of feel bad for Morgan, he really cares for Kiki, but she doesn't feel the same.Caringtype1 (talk) 22:39, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok great. I'm Team AJ but I get where you are coming from. But I love how Elizabeth slaps Tracy, it was pretty funny. AJ went way overboard when he heard the news, he really need therapy! LOL Also, we will co-nom Drama Series, also about Drama what do you think about the lead? It took me so much research because it hard to make a lead for a kind a categorie so that why I am terrified about WT and DT. — SoapFan12 ^Talk

22:50, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

The lead's good. All you really need for a lead is what the award is, when it was first given, and really notable statistics, such as first winner, record holder, most recent winner.Caringtype1 (talk) 23:52, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. — SoapFan12 ^Talk

00:04, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Today's episode made me not like AJ so much. It wasn't his company in the first place. Tracy was the rightful CEO, and AJ blackmailed her out. To me, he's getting what he deserves.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:07, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

I've got to agree with you on that. Also, do you mind starting to clean up DT or WT now, you could use the exact same sources as Drama Series, expect for 1982? — SoapFan12 ^Talk

00:14, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

I must admit that I'm not the best when it comes to making tables, but I'll see what I can do.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:21, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

No worries, just look how exactly how I did it, it just copy and paste. — SoapFan12 ^Talk

00:25, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, but I'll half to start tomorrow, something just came up, and I can't do it tonight.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:28, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay. I'll try to remind you tomorow. lol. I'll start my input on one of these article soon. — SoapFan12 ^Talk

00:31, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

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Nope, do it when you are able too. Me too, I really want us to continue working together. Furthermore, me too I am going back to school soon, then I would still do some Wikipedia. Btw, are you in high-school or college/university? — SoapFan12 ^Talk 01:02, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Locations

I was wondering if you are still going to add the locations on Youner Actor and Actress, like you have promised, I would really appreciated if you do now. Thanks again! — SoapFan12 ^Talk 14:26, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

yes, of course, I'll do it today. Sorry for the delay.Caringtype1 (talk) 16:58, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Its okay, plus I have just responded to you're comments. Btw, thanks for commenting! It mean a lot me! — SoapFan12 ^Talk

17:56, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Are you ready to resolved you're comments or is there more? — SoapFan12 ^Talk

18:02, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

No, I'm done.Caringtype1 (talk) 18:04, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the support!!! Can you please resolved them? To make it more neat. — SoapFan12 ^Talk

18:07, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry what? I already gave my support, is that what you meant?Caringtype1 (talk) 18:09, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

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Oh, that's what you meant. In that case, sorry no, I'm not going to do that. I just thinks it's unnecessary. All editors should have easy access to everyone's comments, hiding them just seems sneaky. I generally never do that, and per WP:FLC that isn't needed and should be kept to a minimum per WP:TLIMIT.Caringtype1 (talk) 18:24, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I understand. — SoapFan12 ^Talk

18:26, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

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I am desperately needing your help at finding sources on Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Drama Series Writing Team. As you can see, it is missing references, if you could find some that would be awesome. Can you please help me? Also, if you looked at the soapcentral source, where it all the winners, at that source there is a paragraph, I dont get it, can you please make a further understanding for me? — SoapFan12 ^Talk :) 01:24, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey, sorry for the delay in response, I've been a bit busy. Of course I'll start looking for more references. Which paragraph in the soap central source do you mean?Caringtype1 (talk) 20:03, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

No worries. Thanks. This one (also look at the winners). Maybe it is helpful, we might not need to find lots of references. — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 20:38, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

That paragraph at the top just means the award with first given with its current name in 1986. Are you certain the award was given out from 1982 to 1985? Because I can't find sources, the Soapcentral source doesn't, it all seems very strange to me.Caringtype1 (talk) 22:45, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Me too. I am not certain that they were given out from 1982 to 1985, only IMDB says it ways but it is not a reliable source. What should I do, should I go with what soapcentral sources? If I do remove those years, I will still be missing sources, that are no where to be found. — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 23:13, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I'd go with what soap central says and remove those years for now. Since the award isn't considered one of the major categories it might be tough trying to find more sources.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:22, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Oh okay then, thanks but while you're at it can you add few sentence to the lead, explaining the missing years. I do not know how I should worded. — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 00:29, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the sentence. Also, you do not need to find sources. I am going to work alone on this. Thanks again! :) — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 17:09, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, let me know if there's anything else I could do!Caringtype1 (talk) 17:11, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Sure. There's one thing for WT. The ″Total awards won″ has false informations (wrong number wins) If you could recount how many wins each soap has recieved? That would be great. I know you said that you are not good at tables, so if you are going to do it, just list them in you're response. Also, remember you're idea about the Total Networks idea? If you are still interested you can add that. But its you're call. — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 17:20, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

You just responded on Robin's talk page. I would really appreciated if you respond here to my question. Thanks! :) — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 19:18, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

First of all, let me just say I'm sorry for the delay. I had counted out all the total wins, and was going to reply, when my computer had some technical issues. I just got them fixed, and saw the reply on the Robin Scorpio talk page, so I thought I would respond there first, and as I was replying here there was edit conflicts because of your comments. So here what the Total Awards won section should read:

Gh 5
YR 5
AMC 4
ATWT 4
Gl 4
RH 4
OL 3
DOOL 2
SB 2
TEON 1
AW 1

Sorry for the abbreviations, I didn't want to write out the full name. Let me know if they are unclear. Thinking about it t a 'total network' section would be pretty unnecessary since every show has come from one of three networks. And for the future, I always see your comments and I will reply, it just may take a little while, so don't be offended, if I don't reply right away.Caringtype1 (talk) 19:31, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Oh okay, thank you so much! By the way, you forgot B&B.lol — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 19:48, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Opps I forgot about that one. The Bold and the Beautiful won twice.Caringtype1 (talk) 19:50, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Yup I firgure that on my own. lol. Btw, what do you think about GH? — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 19:55, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

GH has been pretty solid lately. Not terrible, but not exactly groundbreaking either. I'm glad the truth is going to come out about Maxie's baby.Caringtype1 (talk) 20:04, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

I totally agree with you! Thanks again for everything! — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 02:43, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey, do you think we have enough people to add the crossover parameter? Also, do you mind correcting leads, however it is not soap opera related. It is Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Talk Show Entertainment and Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Talk Show Informative, just the grammar and even re-worded for me, that would be awesome! Also, I have been working on Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Drama Series Directing Team, what do you think? — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 20:30, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey, honestly I'd wait a day to add the crossover parameter, some people don't always check the page that often, and they could have valuable input. Sure I'll take a look at the leads for those pages. DT looks good, nice work!Caringtype1 (talk) 21:45, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks you so much for everything! Do you know exactly when you are going to look at those pages. I don't us to end up in a edit conflict. — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 22:02, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

I'll do it right now.Caringtype1 (talk) 22:21, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks you so much! — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 22:42, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Anytime! Also I noticed with those articles,in the tables the networks are linked only once, but the series are linked multiple times. Either way is probably fine, but I would keep it consistent.Caringtype1 (talk) 22:45, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Lol. I just did fix it, without even saying you're message. Lol. — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 22:53, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Did you hear that Kimberly McCullough is coming back, in a contract status? What do you think? — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 15:56, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I did hear about that. I for one, am very happy! Robin has always been one of my favorite characters.Caringtype1 (talk) 16:43, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Me too, very happy! Hey, I have two new sentences (new information) that I have added to Lead Actor, I was wondering if you could re-worded since it is copying another sentence of the paragraph? Please. I know I have asked to correct a lot of leads for me, sorry it just Im French and not that good at English, that Wikipedia is good for me lol. I would really appreciate if you could! — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 16:50, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Sure!Caringtype1 (talk) 16:52, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

If you could do it now that would be awesome! So, we dont end up in a edut conflict! — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 16:54, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

I just did.Caringtype1 (talk) 17:02, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I do not know how many times have to say thank you! I am so grateful! Thank you so much! Also, you know that Connie is getting killed off right, so do you think it will be a whodunnit storyline? Since, a lot of people are furious of Connie for printing the ELQ story. — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 17:11, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Ha! You don't have to keep saying thank you! lol I'm very angry that Connie is being killed off. Connie/Kate has been one of my favorite characters since 2007, and can't believe they're killing her off. I'm sure it'll be a whodunnit, probably with AJ getting framed by the real killer.Caringtype1 (talk) 17:22, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

I totatally agree with you, who do you think will be the real killer? If it's AJ, that would be to obvious but I agree he will be getting framed. I have no idea, who could be the real killer. It obviously someone, no one will ever expect! — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 17:25, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

I think the killer will end up being either Ava or Franco. Or maybe it'll be an accident, and the killer ends up being Sonny or Kiki.Caringtype1 (talk) 17:32, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

I think if the killer will end up being either Ava or Franco, that would be to obvious. I think it would be someone no one would expect. I really hope she does not get shot, I hope that how and who connie was killed needs to be a mystery. You? — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 17:36, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I hope it'll be a really good mystery. Having a really great exit story would kinda make up for the fact that she's leaving.Caringtype1 (talk) 17:39, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

I agree. Btw, How long do you think I should wait for the crossover disscussion, maybe two weeks or more? — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 17:46, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

You probably shouldn't have to wait more than a day or two. There doesn't seem to be any opposition, so there probably won't be, so two weeks is unnecessarily long to wait. Also I just noticed this parameter was proposed almost a year ago by another user. That's interesting.Caringtype1 (talk) 17:54, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Really? Where did that user proposed it, I dont see it at WP:SOAPS? — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 17:59, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

It was right here. Funny how sometimes it takes a while before an idea catches on.Caringtype1 (talk) 18:07, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Lol. I was wondering if you could correct another lead for me? Its for Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Drama Series Directing Team. If you could do it now that would be awesome! — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 18:16, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Sure.Caringtype1 (talk) 18:20, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 19:04, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey, I just wanted to say that I have decided to change my mind about co-nom Drama series with you, I want to nominate myself if supporting and lead actor reach the FL status. Due to me, being the main contributor to the list and it wouldn't be fair to either of us. I hope you can understand. Furthermore, I am very sorry to hit this on you. However, I really want us to work together but on something we both can do and receive the credit. — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 21:39, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Oh. that's fineCaringtype1 (talk) 00:41, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Are you sure? No hard feelings? I am very sorry, do you accepted my apologie? — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 00:57, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry about it, no hard feelings.Caringtype1 (talk) 01:00, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, good. Is there anything, you want us together to work on? Any projects and desires? — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 01:04, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Not at the moment, I'll let you know if somethings comes to me.Caringtype1 (talk) 01:06, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay. I need you're opinion on something. You know, the templates on the botom of the daytime emmys page will all the list of winnes. So I've added that to Drama Series and WT. what do you think? Also, I want to do on DT, but because it has two diffrent kind of winners (one for individual and the other for the directing team) So beetwen the years 1974-78, do I name only directors or the series? — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 01:12, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Those templates look really good, so nice job! For DT, the years with individual winners would ideally be the name of the director followed by the name of the series they won for in parenthesis.Caringtype1 (talk) 01:18, 23 August 2013 (UTC) Oh, okay thank you so much for the advice. — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 01:20, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

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Sure, I'll take a look when I get a chance.Caringtype1 (talk) 15:49, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

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40th Daytime Emmy Awards

I have been working on 40th Daytime Emmy Awards. What do you think? — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 02:03, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Wow, great work! A couple of things I noticed were the lead might have too much detail about the individual programs that won, consider trimming it down. For Original Song in the table, you should include the actual nominees like the performers/writers. In the Presenters section, for 'Corbin Bernsen and Jess Walton' it's a bit unclear what is meant by 'includes Jeanne Cooper'. Was it just a tribute to that woman, or a regular In Memoriam feature? If the latter, "includes Jeanne Cooper" isn't necessary. But those are just little things, overall it looks great!Caringtype1 (talk) 02:29, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the advice! — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 02:32, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Btw, do you think it will be ready for an FL status soon? — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 02:45, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, it should be FL ready soon! Keep up the good work!Caringtype1 (talk) 03:20, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! If you see any erros, feel free to fix them! I would really appreciate it! — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 03:29, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Will do!Caringtype1 (talk) 03:31, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

I have added some informations and some stuff in the lead. If you could correct the grammar mistakes , even re-worded and remove uneeded sentences? That would be great! Also, I have added a sentence in the lead about the ratings (last sentence in last paragraph) I use what the source says but I am not sure it's right, if you could correct that and add the more facts of what the source says says? I would really appreciate it! Thanks! — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 00:23, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for the late response. I'm very busy today, so the earliest I can take a look is tonight.Caringtype1 (talk) 17:02, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

That's okay! Thanks for willing! — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 17:04, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi there. I was wondering if you are still on board on looking at the article for me today? Also, I have a new list up. I was wondering if you can give comments when you have a chance or even today (that would be the best, due to school staring very soon)? Thanks! — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 18:40, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I take a look at the article now. Sorry for the delay.Caringtype1 (talk) 18:51, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

No worries. Thanks you so much! You forgot to answer me about, looking at this list? — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 19:04, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

I didn't forget, I'll look at it right now.Caringtype1 (talk) 19:06, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 19:09, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

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I was wondering if you will be could proofread: Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/62nd Academy Awards/archive1. Please note that because of some limitations on older Oscar ceremonies, this list follows the 1st Academy Awards format done by User:Tbhotch rather than others such like the 82nd Academy Awards and such. I would be grateful for the extra help and support. Thanks.

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Hi there. How are you? What do you think about GH lately? I need you're help on something. Two or three days ago I have remove the colours on the ref columns on Drama Series, Directing Team and Writting Team, I was wondering if you could help me do that for the Acting Categories? iIf I were you would start with Younger Actress, since it has way more views than all the others. Thanks! I hope you could do it ASAP! LOL — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 19:23, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I'm fine, I've been very busy lately, and that's why I haven't been on Wikipedia much, and unfortunately, that's why I don't think I'll be able to help you. I'm very sorry but I'm in the middle of something that I really have to get done before tonight, and I really have to stop procrastinating. Again I'm very sorry, but if I were you, I wouldn't worry about the colors in the ref columns for the Acting Categories. They've all passed FL already and that issue wasn't brought up then, so unless there is a reassessment, I'd leave it. Take careCaringtype1 (talk) 19:32, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Oh okay no worries. I was thinking the same thing but it does not hurt to ask. I agree, I should leave it. However, I was wondering if you could give you're opinion on Talk:Academy Award for Best Actor? I would love to hear what you will have to say. — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 19:46, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Also, I was wondering if I should nominate Directing Team or should I wait for Drama Series to pass? — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 19:50, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Sure, I'll add my opinion there, thanks for understanding. If I were you, I'd wait until Drama Series passed before nominating something else, that way you can focus on each nomination separately and more in depth.Caringtype1 (talk) 19:53, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!Btw, when are you planning to comment? 19:56, 14 September 2013 (UTC) — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs)

″But specifics should definitely be discussed here, since this page is different from other pages, especially the ones SoapFan12 has dealt with in the past, what worked for those, might not work here″. Hey, I am curious since I do not quite understand what you mean in this statement. Thanks for giving you're opinion! — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 20:04, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

I have to go, wrote this before your last comment, hopefully it clarifies a bit

I did just now, also on a side note, I was looking at that article and don't you think some sort of History section is needed? It's one of the most notable awards there is, and I was surprised to see there wasn't any kind of History/Background section. I read the article a couple of months ago, and it looked very different, I'm not sure what you're plan is, but I want to be honest. I don't see these changes moving the article closer to FL.Caringtype1 (talk) 20:08, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

As much as I appreciate you're opinion I unfortunately disagree with you. I do not think a History section is needed, that part should be in the lead and the previous history section had no sources. I am waiting on nominating this article since I have other lists I rather nominate before. Btw, I still don't understand ″But specifics should definitely be discussed here, since this page is different from other pages, especially the ones SoapFan12 has dealt with in the past, what worked for those, might not work here″. Would you please clairify? — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 00:42, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Okay, that's fine, that's just what I would do. What I meant by that was just that specific photos and sections should be discussed on the article's talk page, if there is some disagreement about them. The Academy Awards are a lot more high profile that the Daytime Emmys, more people will read the article, and more people will want to edit the article too. I know that you're planning to nominate it with Birdiesnest61, but major changes should be brought up at the article's talk page because other editors may have an opinion, or a suggestion. Saying you want to make it a FL isn't a reason to revert something. Also I know you used the same basic format for the layout of the Daytime Emmy Articles, but I really don't think the format is going to work for the Oscars.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:51, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

I uderstand however I disagree with this ″Saying you want to make it a FL isn't a reason to revert something″ per the FL criteria you absouletely need images and I was told to add the sections on one of my FLCs was unnecssary meaning before nominating the article I can do the same mistakes. Furthermore, I had no say about the format, Birdienest81 did the lead format and I did the table. Therefore, I don't understand why you are think is not going to work? What specifically is not going to work? — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 01:07, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

I was just speaking in general about reverting things, not specifically about the photos. If someone disagrees with you, it's best to discuss instead of reverting back and forth. And I was also just speaking in general about the format. In my opinion, there are sections needed for OScar articles that aren't for Daytime Emmy ones (Background, superlatives, etc.)Caringtype1 (talk) 01:15, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

I understand but those kind of sections need sources and in the previous format they were none so I am not going to waste my time search for sources. Me and Birdienest81 like it that way however I reallY appreciate you're opinion, feel free to give it all the time! LOL. — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 01:20, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

At Talk:40th Daytime Emmy Awards, Giants2008 give me comments, however one of them said that the names of presenters and performers need to be sorted by last name, do you know what he means by that? — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 01:29, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

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Just wanted to remind you I have responded to you're message on my talk page. I hope you can reply soon. — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 00:56, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

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Hey, I was wondering if are still on board on looking at 39th Daytime Emmy Awards and reviewing my FLC? Just curious. — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 19:41, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Oh my goodness, I completely forgot that I said I would do that! Sorry, and thank you so much for reminding me! lol. I'll try to look at our FLC tonight.Caringtype1 (talk) 21:51, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Again, I know that you have a life outside of wiki and that you are very busy however I have been asking this for a very longtime and you seem to forget all the time. I hope that this does not sound harsh but it is a fact. If you have no interest on doing this, just tell me, I won't get offended I would respet that desicion I can't force you to do something, the thing that is bugging me is that you keep saying you are going to do it and you have not yet do it. Again, I hope this does not harsh. Also, don't get me wrong, I am grateful for every single thing you have done for me and glad that you took time away to do it however I keep seeing you edit and completely leaving behind what I am asking you to do if you are able to. Sorry, but I am curious on why this keeps happening. — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 23:59, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

You're right, I shouldn't have said I would do something when I wasn't certain I'd have the time to. I'll review the FLC right now. Again, very sorry.Caringtype1 (talk) 14:16, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

It's fine, there is nothing to apologize for. I was just curious why ″you said you would do something when you were not certain I'd have the time to″. Btw, thanks for reviewing my list! This means alot! Now, are you still on board on looking at 39th Daytime Emmy Awards, like you said you would? — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 20:48, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

I don't have the time to thoroughly go through that article, but from taking a glance it looks fine.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:39, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Not even a copy edit only in the lead? Please, it would mean the world to me! — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 01:04, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

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wow! We have not talk for weeks. So, how are you? What do you think about GH? Also, can you review my FLC, please don't try to give me a support like that. Can you do a big review like the one you did for this? — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 19:05, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

I know! I can't believe we haven't talked in weeks! Gh has been pretty great lately, don't you think? Unfortunately, I don't think I'll have time to do a thorough review. Maybe I'll time on Friday, if you remember can you try to remind me? lol, thanks!Caringtype1 (talk) 02:05, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Yes, Gh has been amazing with Robin coming back and Sabrina and Patrick, it was the best twist. The only thing, I am furious is that they Lucas did not comeback so that Felix could have a real love interest. Also, I love the Anna, Faison and Lisel story. Remember, when Britt said that the baby was not her flesh and blood, I think she was telling the truth, Britt's baby is Dante and Lulu's, I can't feel it! Thank for willing to review my list and I will remind you on Friday! — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 11:27, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

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TV Land

You're being kind of unreasonable here.

If you look on TV Land's schedule, they are going hard and heavy on Andy/Gunsmoke/Bonanza/Raymond/KoQ during the week, and Bradys/Cosbys/Golden Girls on the weekends.

Dick Van Dyke, I Love Lucy, and the rest have all been pulled.

Now TV Land may own the rights to all those shows, but THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY ON THE SCHEDULE.

My goodness, they haven't run Murder She Wrote or Boston Legal in forever, and 30 Rock was there for like a week before it was yanked.

Vjmlhds (talk) 00:18, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

The article is not a list of shows that the network airs everyday. The network still has the rights to air, and does air shows according to what they decide. Just because they have not aired a show in "forever", that does not mean they'll never air it again. Wikipedia is not a TV guide and it is not our job to record every time there is a little change in the order in which and what shows air. When a reliable source reports that the network has either lost the rights, or stopped airing a program completely, then that source can be added and the article can reflect the change. Otherwise, changing the article is unsourced and could very well qualify as original research.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:26, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

How is it original research, when I provide a schedule straight from TV Land itself saying these shows aren't airing? And (all due respect), you are the one engaging in original research and hypotheticals when you say "just because it isn't airing now, doesn't mean it won't return"...that's assuming things on your part. Who knows if those shows will ever come back? I provided a source, saying these shows were not airing, you are playing "woulda coulda shoulda". Wikipedia isn't about "woulda coulda shoulda", it's about what is. Vjmlhds (talk) 04:28, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

First off I want to apologize for the delayed response. Seeing that a show hasn't aired in a while and deciding that they've stopped airing them is original research. We need reliable sources that isn't just "I didn't see it on my tv". Networks, especially TVland, focus on certain shows at one time, and then move on to emphasize certain others for a while. But it doesn't mean they stop airing those programs forever. What if they decide to show an episode of 30 Rock next week? Are we just going to remove and read the programs every time they air? That's crazyCaringtype1 (talk) 22:55, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

If a show isn't on the schedule, then the network isn't airing it, it's that simple. With networks like this that airs mainly reruns/classic shows, all one has to go by is what's on the schedule. Original research would be arbitrarily saying that TV Land will bring back...say...30 Rock at some point. We don't know that (unless they promote it). All I'm saying is never assume anything. Go by what can be verified in a source, and if a show comes back, great, add it. If not don't take it upon yourself to add it because you think it may come back down the road. WP:V. Vjmlhds (talk) 23:45, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

I'd like to reiterate that last part back to you. Don't assume because a show hasn't aired in a while that it's gone forever. We need reliable sources. Look at the broadcast networks, shows go on hiatuses all the time, that doesn't mean that they are "gone". And also i just checked the actual TV Land schedule online, and Curb Your Enthusiasm, I Love Lucy, and Murder, She Wrote are all on it. They should definitely be added back, since we have an actual source that confirms that are not gone. As for the rest, we really don't have a source confirming whether they are or are not still broadcast by the network, so they can remain off the list until we have further confirmation.Caringtype1 (talk) 23:56, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

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