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There is no discussion. Please ping me again if you took me to the ANI. Borsoka (talk) 16:15, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Climate

Hi, could you check this? Talk:Budapest#Climate I think it is fringe that Hungary is "subtropical" OrionNimrod (talk) 14:11, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

):):):) Ez q..va jó! Yes, it is obviously fringe. Borsoka (talk) 14:55, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Could you join to the conversation? OrionNimrod (talk) 20:05, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, no. Climate is not my subject of interest. Borsoka (talk) 01:17, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

TFA

Thank you today for Theodore II Laskaris, "about a young Emperor of Nicaea (the most powerful successor state of the Byzantine Empire) who wrote several treatises about theological, historical and philosophical themes. He preferred the company of low born intellectuals which led to conflicts with the Nicaean aristocracy. He expanded the territory of his empire but died young due to a chronic illness, likely cancer. His Great Supplicatory Canon to Our Lady is still sung in Orthodox ceremonies"! - I have a composer on the same page - sadly because he died - who composed music for the Orthodox church, Romuald Twardowski. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:57, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Moved to Peer review

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History of Christianity

I have now spent a good bit of time reading and researching the Middle Ages - my weakest area of knowledge - and I see there has been a paradigm shift in the scholarship. I had no idea. I see now that everything I referenced was from the old view. You tried to tell me. I couldn't see how you could possibly be correct, but you were. I apologize for being such a pain. Thank you for persevering. It is due to your persistence that the article will be better in the end. So thank you. You were right. I was wrong, and I handled it badly. I apologize. Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:21, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

You do not need to apologize. I am glad the article can be improved now. Borsoka (talk) 02:25, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

I should now offer the perfect response of arguing with you about needing to apologize for arguing with you ... Or maybe not. I am learning more than I ever wanted to know about the Middle Ages. This article has been a bear, and I think I'm losing the fight. I doubt it will ever get to FA, but at least I will know after this that it is accurate. I thank you for that. Jenhawk777 (talk) 08:22, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

WP is not about fights and losing them. We all are continuously learning when editing. I am sure the article can reach the level of FA, and you can contribute to it. Borsoka (talk) 09:24, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

I think I have addressed every issue raised in the peer review. I would love for you to take a look. Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:29, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Request

Could you start a GA discussion regarding Haile Selassie I? Its odd the page has thousands of views a day yet for over a month no discussion regarding it started? I saw that you are discussing Charlemagne which has only been nominated less than 12 days ago, while the Haile Selassie article a month, i would like this process to be quicker since again the page has [1] thousands of views a day on average.

Note: i was the nominator of the article, so i can't start a discussion by my own to make it a good article, you as a third party should review the article with some others on if the article meets the criteria. It is a simple invitation! CtasACT (talk) 02:34, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, but my knowledge of him is extremly limited. Borsoka (talk) 02:39, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

No worries, is there any other Wikipedia's interested? Because i am not willing to wait for an article that gets 3,000 views an average and sometimes 9,000 or more in a day to be premises yet no one is willing as i am aware of to even discuss it. Thank you anyways for you open mindness! CtasACT (talk) 03:38, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

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I don't mean to sound like an idiot - ever really - but I am wondering if you can define for me the bias you saw in History of Christianity. I took it to mean an anti-Christian bias because of all the mentions of corruption. I ask partly because I think the others understood it differently, and partly because I can't be sure it's fixed if I am incorrect about what it was. The peer review is still open. As I said above, I did as you asked and added more "History of..." sources. Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:09, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

I can only share some thoughts on the article. I think that it is still mainly based on sources specialised on specific aspects of the history of Christianity, so it can hardly reflect academic consensus on the subject. Its sources could be decimated. After a short review, I found that at least some references to Collinson are obviously wrong: his chapter starts on page 233 in The Oxford Illustrated History of Christianity. The article concentrates on Western Christianity, making only general statements about other branches. (I know we can find statements about the history of the Byzantine and Russian states but it is about the state, not about the church.) The article's structure could also be improved, for instance the section about papal supremacy follows the sections about the Investiture Controversy and the Crusades. I already suggested that a GAR could significantly contribute to the improvement of the article. Borsoka (talk) 03:00, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much. I am so grateful. I will incorporate your suggestions. The article already has GA, so I don't know how to go about getting a second one, but I will see what I can find out. Thank you again, genuinely. Jenhawk777 (talk) 04:19, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

You're right, that reference should be Colin Morris not Collinson. Thank you for catching that. I did add four new "History of C" sources as you suggested: A Short History of C. by Blainey, The Oxford Illustrated History, A Short Introduction to the History of Christianity by Dowley, and A History of Christianity: The First Three Thousand Years by MacCulloch, which I was told still represents the standard. Do these not represent consensus?

I can't find any precedent for getting a second GA. Can you help with that? Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:41, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

The link above leads to the page adding detailed instructions. It is not a second GA, it is a reassessment. Borsoka (talk) 01:23, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Okay, I did as you asked. Jenhawk777 (talk) 07:53, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Reason of attack

Hi, I would like let you know about this: [1] OrionNimrod (talk) 21:23, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Sorry for it. Borsoka (talk) 01:56, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

It seems this started here [2] It is strange that how people have so deep wikipedia knowledge to find a such old ANI report, probably that info was spread by the blocked user who did that report to incite Romanian people against Hungarian editors. The outside article pretend the blocked editor is "admin" because that report is on the admin board. OrionNimrod (talk) 12:36, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

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Sources for Antioch

I'm planning to rewrite Antioch for WP:TCC (have made a start on it here). I'm good on sourcing for the ancient periods, but I was wondering if you, fresh from bringing Raynald of Châtillon to FA-adjacent status, might recommend any in-depth treatments of Antioch as a crusader state? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:41, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Nice topic! The history of the principality during the 12th century is best covered by Buck's work (Buck, Andrew D. (2017). The Principality of Antioch and Its Frontiers in the Twelfth Century. The Boydell Press. ISBN 978-1-7832-7173-3.). For the 12th century, I would still use the relevant chapters from the second volume of A History of the Crusades (Setton, Kenneth M.; Wolff, Robert Lee; Hazard, Harry, eds. (1969) [1962]. The Later Crusades, 1189–1311. A History of the Crusades. Vol. II (Second ed.). The University of Wisconsin Press. ISBN 978-0-299-04844-0.). Borsoka (talk) 04:40, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Superb. Thanks. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:32, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Do you have any opinions on Asbridge, Thomas (2000). The Creation of the Principality of Antioch, 1098-1130. ISBN 978-0-8511-5661-3.? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:01, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, it is an excellent source, but I think it is too specialised for an article about the city of Antioch. Borsoka (talk) 17:12, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Behaviour Again

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I suggest you should review your other articles. Blatant plagiarism may cost your editing privileges. Borsoka (talk) 10:21, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks and apologies

Hi Borsoka, hope you are well. I had some huge RL changes that impacted my ability to edit, right in the middle of the Charlemagne GA. Sorry for leaving you hanging. Thank you for the extensive work you did reviewing the article and making substantive improvements. It's a much better article for it. Thank you also for working with me as an inexperienced editor in the GA process, especially with such a large article. When I have some time free up, I will probably do another run at it but I'm proud of how far the article has come and again want to thank you for your contributions. Seltaeb Eht (talk) 15:28, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your message. I enjoyed reviewing the article, and I hope you will renominate it. I think it needs only minor changes to be promoted (for instance, pictures could be improved :) ). Borsoka (talk) 15:34, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

It was a fun and challenging article to work on as well - amazing how much I only thought I knew about the subject. Some of it from reading previous versions of the article!

I did see your note in the review page re:images. If you'd like to share any specific recommendations, I'm all ears. I'll take a closer look at copyright tags and overillustraion as you noted. Cheers. Seltaeb Eht (talk) 16:59, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

@Seltaeb Eht: sorry for the delay, but I missed your message. There are 18 pictures (in addition to the map) in the article. I think most Romantic pictures could be removed, and we do not need at least 5 pictures about Charlemagne's imperial coronation. Borsoka (talk) 05:27, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

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Precious anniversary

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Eight years!

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Maybe you should get to know

Hi @Borsoka, and how are you doing. I was thinking if you can take a look at this FC. Even if you don't have time now, feel free to pass by when you are free. Cheers! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 12:46, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

WP:REDACT

Hi, just letting you know that you’re not allowed to change what you wrote in a discussion after someone has replied to it, per WP:REDACTED. Thus, you must fix it accordingly in the manner in which is described in WP:REDACTED. Raulois (talk) 08:56, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the notice. Borsoka (talk) 10:00, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Ilaria Salis - third party opinion

Hi! Would you be so kind as to take a look at the "Ilaria Salis" article? User Polygnotus is convinced that she was beating neo nazis during her tour - which is degradating from some of the victim's perspective. I just wrote: nine persons, and referenced the The Guardian and the Euronews as source - User Polygnotus deleted them. 84.206.11.96 (talk) 06:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

That is a misrepresentation of what happened. Polygnotus (talk) 06:39, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

The sources specified: neonazis AND thos WHOM SHE REGARDS NEONAZIS:

Prosecutors allege that Salis travelled to Budapest specifically to carry out attacks against “unsuspecting victims identified as, or PERCEIVED as, far-right sympathisers” to deter “representatives of the far-right movement - The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/24/italian-anti-fascist-goes-on-trial-in-hungary-accused-of-attacking-neo-nazis

Salis is accused of attempted murder for allegedly being part of a group of anti-fascists that attacked people they BELIEVED were associated with the far-right event.www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/06/10/italian-activist-ilaria-salis-to-be-released-following-her-election-as-an-mep

and you deleted the source for the three Polish nationals, and deleted the video of her attack: https://magyarnemzet.hu/english/2024/02/incensed-italian-press-ignores-bloody-far-left-manhunt

What is your problem? You deleted other sourced infos too, that see owes 90 000 Euros to a house owner, etc.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.206.11.96 (talk) 06:47, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

You are now spamming this stuff on the talkpages of those you think will agree with you. That won't help you. Polygnotus (talk) 06:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Calling people neonazis, whn they are not is libel. Still omited to respond the sources above.--84.206.11.96 (talk) 09:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Using words like "libel" will get you blocked. See WP:LEGAL. Polygnotus (talk) 09:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Actually your version of the text calls them neonazis.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.206.11.96 (talk) 09:53, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

The Guardian wrote: "Italian anti-fascist goes on trial in Hungary accused of attacking neo-Nazis". https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/24/italian-anti-fascist-goes-on-trial-in-hungary-accused-of-attacking-neo-nazis Polygnotus (talk) 10:02, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I do not have deep information on the issue. Borsoka (talk) 04:48, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

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story · music · places

Thank you today for the article, "about a Jerusalemite royal princess who ruled the Kingdoms of Cyprus and Jerusalem as regent for her son and an absent relative for years in the first half of the 13th century. She also laid claim to a French county but could not seize it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Today I have two "musicians" on the Main page, one is also the topic of my story, watch and listen! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:17, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

... and a third, like 22 July but with interview and the music to be played today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:16, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

On 13 August, Bach's cantata was 300 years old, and the image one. The cantata is an extraordinary piece, using the chorale's text and famous melody more than others in the cycle. It's nice to have not only a recent death, but also this "birthday" on the Main page. And a rainbow in my places. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:32, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

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Origin of the Romanians

Note that this was changed by an IP a while ago.[3] Mellk (talk) 01:46, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the edit. Borsoka (talk) 01:47, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

No problem, I understand that it would have been better to have included quotes from both sources. Mellk (talk) 01:49, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

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