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Question from Galaxian297 (17:34, 3 May 2023)
I've always wondered... Can Wikipedia undo inappropriate edits to pages? --Galaxian297 (talk) 17:34, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Galaxian297: Nope because Wikipedia is just the website. Various humans can do so, and there's even a bot that does it, though only when it is extremely obvious the edits are vandalism. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 17:36, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
Question from Galaxian297 (17:24, 3 May 2023)
Are you A.I.? --Galaxian297 (talk) 17:24, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Hi @Galaxian297. No, Blaze Wolf is not an A.I. The Night Watch (talk) 17:26, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- Sounds like something an A.I. would say 🤨 /s ~GoatLordServant(Talk) 18:04, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
Splatoon 3
Hello, I was looking through the help desk to see if I could contribute, and I noticed your username with the little #6545 on it. As I play the franchise way too much, I thought, "OH! That's a splashtag code!". I'm just spit-balling here, but would I happen to be right? I'm a big enthusiast myself and I'd love to meet another! That's all, :). User:Robins bird talk 23:52, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- Isn't it the digits for special identification number of the Discord username? And it needs updating, too! Tails Wx 00:55, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Robins bird: Haha, I never thought of that. IT is just my Discord username (Tho I wish it were also my splashtag). I do play Splatoon 3 though, I even got the article on it to GA (See Splatoon 3) ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 02:49, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- Ohh, okay. I never know whether it is or not. Thanks for telling me! I'll check out the page. 👋
- User:Robins bird talk 18:19, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Robins bird: Haha, I never thought of that. IT is just my Discord username (Tho I wish it were also my splashtag). I do play Splatoon 3 though, I even got the article on it to GA (See Splatoon 3) ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 02:49, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
Template on Garrett Wayne Smith?
Hi Blaze Wolf, This is Garrett Wayne Smith, the rock and blues musician from Austin. I submitted a draft through AfC and it was approved and moved live to Garrett Wayne Smith. My user page disclosed my identity, and I added a Connected Contributor template to the article, which is still there. Given my full disclosure, and going through AfC, I am wondering if the autobiography template that you added is still necessary? I'm of course open to any changes that improve the article. Thanks! GarrettPlaysGuitar (talk) 17:28, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- @GarrettPlaysGuitar: Hi there! Unless another editor determines that the article is neutral the template will remain there since it is an autobiography due to being written by you. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 17:35, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- I removed the tag. The article seems well-written, and the praise is attributed to reliable sources instead of being stated in Wikipedia's voice. Cullen328 (talk) 17:55, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Cullen328: Actually, isn't there an issue with the user themself? They're implying they are the subject of that article, but we have no way of actually knowing that they are them. I don't believe the username is enough to be blockable as implying they are a well-known person, but isn't there some policy regarding what we should do with users who claim to be the subject of an article? I'm trying to find it but can't seem to think of the right shortcut. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:10, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- I see no indications of impersonation and the article is better written than the vast majority of efforts by COI editors. Cullen328 (talk) 18:16, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Cullen328: Their userpage says "I am Garrett Smith, a musician in Austin." which implies they are the subject of the article. Doesn't this need to be confirmed by VRT or is that only if their username directly implies this? ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:19, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not trying to imply the user is here in bad faith, I'm just trying to make sure they are within policy as I may simply just be misunderstanding the policy I'm thinking of. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:22, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- There is no policy that prevents the use of real names, stage names or nicknames. Impersonation is not permitted, so accounts that use the names of highly famous people come under scrutiny because of the implausibility factor, especially if there is any disruption. It appears that this particular person followed the proper procedures, and therefore, the article does not need a "badge of shame" unless there are identifiable problems with the article. Cullen328 (talk) 18:30, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not trying to say that the autobio tag shouldn't have been removed. I was simply trying to make sure the user doesn't need to be blocked, which you have done. As I said it was mostly just me misunderstanding policy. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:33, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- There is no policy that prevents the use of real names, stage names or nicknames. Impersonation is not permitted, so accounts that use the names of highly famous people come under scrutiny because of the implausibility factor, especially if there is any disruption. It appears that this particular person followed the proper procedures, and therefore, the article does not need a "badge of shame" unless there are identifiable problems with the article. Cullen328 (talk) 18:30, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- I see no indications of impersonation and the article is better written than the vast majority of efforts by COI editors. Cullen328 (talk) 18:16, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Cullen328: Actually, isn't there an issue with the user themself? They're implying they are the subject of that article, but we have no way of actually knowing that they are them. I don't believe the username is enough to be blockable as implying they are a well-known person, but isn't there some policy regarding what we should do with users who claim to be the subject of an article? I'm trying to find it but can't seem to think of the right shortcut. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:10, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- I removed the tag. The article seems well-written, and the praise is attributed to reliable sources instead of being stated in Wikipedia's voice. Cullen328 (talk) 17:55, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
You are very good at understanding policy most of the time, and I always take your comments seriously. Cullen328 (talk) 18:56, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
New page reviewer granted
Hi Blaze Wolf. Your account has been added to the "New page reviewers
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The reviewer right does not change your status or how you can edit articles. If you no longer want this user right, you also may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. In cases of abuse or persistent inaccuracy of reviewing, or long-term inactivity, the right may be withdrawn at administrator discretion. Salvio giuliano 20:36, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- Welcome to the team! (Hint: I heard there’s a backlog drive for redirect reviews where you can get Barnstars)
- Also, some useful links:
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- Happy Reviewing! Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 06:19, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
Question from Galaxian297 (11:50, 4 May 2023)
Hello. How did you choose your name? I just think that your name was a weird but cool choice. --Galaxian297 (talk) 11:50, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Galaxian297: It's been my online pseudonym for a while. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 12:06, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
May the Fourth be with you
Happy Star Wars Day Wolf! -- Grapefanatic (talk) 13:22, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
Question from Galaxian297 (13:12, 4 May 2023)
So... I can edit texts AND image addresses? --Galaxian297 (talk) 13:12, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Galaxian297: Please try and keep all questions in one message so you don't fill up my talk page. I'm not sure what you mean by image addresses. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 13:42, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
Off topic
Sorry for getting off topic. Cwater1 (talk) 17:43, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
reply
In response to your recent message, I think you'll find I have created a page for the upcoming DLC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Scarlet_and_Violet:_The_Hidden_Treasure_of_Area_Zero Visokor (talk) 15:46, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Visokor: Creating an article just so you can include it isn't a good idea. For one it's way too soon. And two, your argument that because the SwSh DLC got an article and therefor the SV DLC should get one has no merit. See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:51, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
help
im stupid and dont understand why you took down my page. Devman2023 (talk) 23:35, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Devman2023 The page had content that was deemed promotional, there was also little content on the page from what I can see in the creation log. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 20:15, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
Your red warning on my profile is not justified
Hi Blaze Wolf,
I notice that you have made a red warning under my profile. I should inform you that my edits to the page were at least partially constructive, as "Queen consort" is necessary under the header which I changed (and which since your repeated reversions, has been corrected by another user). If my once repeated edit is commanding of a red warning (as per your talk page), then your repeated reversion of a partially correct edit is also worth one.
I would appreciate if you remove the RW, as I have acted in good faith. If not, I will assume that you wish to be held to the same standard.
Thank you. Neutral Editor 645 (talk) 22:32, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Neutral Editor 645 there is no "red warning" on any of your user pages EvergreenFir (talk) 22:45, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Neutral Editor 645, I'm sure that Blaze Wolf was assuming good faith. As for the edit, there is a clear consensus from the page move discussion to title Camilla as Queen, not Queen Consort. I believe you are misinterpreting the latest talk page post, which applies only to infoboxes. The "header" you changed was the lede paragraph, which remains the same as Blaze Wolf left it. As for the warning (as with any warning, whether made by redwarn, twinkle, huggle etc.), you are free to remove almost all things from your talk page per Wikipedia:OWNTALK. Schminnte (talk • contribs) 22:58, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- Excuse my ignorance yet again, I am a little more of a rookie to this Wikipedia thing. Thank you for your comments. Neutral Editor 645 (talk) 23:08, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- It's fine. Everyone has to learn the ropes sometime. If you need any more help, I'm sure Blaze Wolf (and myself) would be happy to answer any other questions on our talk pages. If not, you can always ask for help at The Teahouse. Schminnte (talk • contribs) 23:21, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- Excuse my ignorance yet again, I am a little more of a rookie to this Wikipedia thing. Thank you for your comments. Neutral Editor 645 (talk) 23:08, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
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hi blaze wolf
hey blaze its me xephrax do you remember that time when i made an article and you got mad and deleted it well ever since then (approx 9 months ago) i have sat alone and figured out the consequences of my actions were against policy but i think you could use my lollllllllllllll get wrecked article as an example of vandalism on wikipedia
have a good day, xephrax Xephrax (talk) 13:47, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not using an article that was actually created as an example of vandalism. WP:DENY and WP:BEANS. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 13:50, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
Tech News: 2023-19
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Recent changes
- Last week, Community Tech released the first update for providing better diffs, the #1 request in the 2022 Community Wishlist Survey. This update adds legends and tooltips to inline diffs so that users unfamiliar with the blue and yellow highlights can better understand the type of edits made.
- When you close an image that is displayed via MediaViewer, it will now return to the wiki page instead of going back in your browser history. This feature request was voted #65 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey. [6]
- The SyntaxHighlight extension now supports
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Problems
- Graph Extension update: Foundation developers have completed upgrading the visualization software to Vega5. Existing community graphs based on Vega2 are no longer compatible. Communities need to update local graphs and templates, and shared lua modules like de:Modul:Graph. The Vega Porting guide provides the most comprehensive detail on migration from Vega2 and here is an example migration. Vega5 has currently just been enabled on mediawiki.org to provide a test environment for communities. [9]
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Astropixels.com for Lunar_phase
Hello. I write about this edit. "Astropixels.com" is reliable enough to be used here: earthsky.org, books.google.ru, skyandtelescope.org, cosgrovescosmos.com, hopkinsvilleky.us, explorescientificusa.com and nasa.gov. In addition to the above, the Supermoon and Lunar phase wikis have had References from astropixels.com for several years now. Your browser tells its not secure because "astropixels.com" doesn't use httpS. If the site does not receive or transmit sensitive information, then https is not really needed. P.S.: English is not my native language, so I ask for leniency if my words seemed rude. —37.145.17.247 (talk) 00:45, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hello IP! I'm still not sure if it's entirely reliable since it seems to be made by one single person and doesn't seem all that professional. If other editors believe its good enough then they are free to add it back. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 02:55, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
- (stalking) Usage by other sources is a factor in weighing a source's reliability, but Wikipedia pages do not form part of that analysis. My initial impression from a brief examination is that it qualifies as WP:EXPERTSPS with all the limitations therein implied. Which is to say usable, but with caution, and will rarely serve to satisfy WP:DUE by itself. The community is also likely to look unkindly if a personal website is used excessively as a reference. Placing the entire set of pages within a single reference would also have made the reliance on WP:CALC clearer.
- While personally I'm inclined to allow it in just this instance, I recommend soliciting further input on WP:RSN, with a pointer placed at Talk:Lunar phase. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 03:03, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
CVU training
Hello! I would like you to train me and teach me the ropes of counter-vandalism. I have a little bit of experience doing it, I have about 170 edits (150 vandalism reverts), which is a bit short of the 200 requirement, but I still hope you consider me. Idkiguessus (talk) 02:17, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Idkiguessus: Hey there! I see that you have started the Wikipedia Adventure. Once you complete that I'd be happy to train you if Cassiopeia hasn't done so yet. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 03:05, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- I just realized I did my math wrong, I included talks, of which about half of edits are on, and just used a percent for vandalism reverts, because I was too lazy to go through all of them, I will do a little bit of work to get to at least 150, and complete The Wikipedia Adventure, and then I think I will be ready. Idkiguessus (talk) 17:15, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- I just complete the Wikipedia Adventure Idkiguessus (talk) 09:02, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Idkiguessus: Cool! I just took a look at this page which shows me the number of edits in each namespace. Currently you only have 87 in mainspace, which is well below the requirement of 200. Try to get closer to 200 and then we can start. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:16, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, that is what i meant by doing my math wrong, i just looked at overall number and saw 2/15 mainspace edits were normal, so guessed 130 vandalism reverts. Idkiguessus (talk) 18:10, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Idkiguessus: Once you have close to 200 mainspace edits then I will train you in CVUA. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 13:51, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
- I currently have 130 edits, I am going to try to get to 175 Idkiguessus (talk) 03:13, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Idkiguessus: I'd be fine with 150 actually. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 12:16, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- Ok Idkiguessus (talk) 17:26, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- I have reached 150 on mainspace according to this Idkiguessus (talk) 23:51, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Idkiguessus: Nice! Feel free to keep editing while I set everything up. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 02:23, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Idkiguessus: I'd be fine with 150 actually. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 12:16, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- I currently have 130 edits, I am going to try to get to 175 Idkiguessus (talk) 03:13, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Idkiguessus: Once you have close to 200 mainspace edits then I will train you in CVUA. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 13:51, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, that is what i meant by doing my math wrong, i just looked at overall number and saw 2/15 mainspace edits were normal, so guessed 130 vandalism reverts. Idkiguessus (talk) 18:10, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Idkiguessus: Cool! I just took a look at this page which shows me the number of edits in each namespace. Currently you only have 87 in mainspace, which is well below the requirement of 200. Try to get closer to 200 and then we can start. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:16, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
Source
Just wanted to ask, Is this a reliable source or not? Ajeeb Prani (talk) 17:26, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I would as at WP:RSN. THis seems to be a TV listing website but I can't say for sure. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:10, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- Honestly, I would say it might. Per Blaze, I would also go to WP:RSN. And "Ask"! It's not to "as at WP:RSN"! Tails Wx 18:20, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- Don't give away my spelling errors! People can't know I"m not perfect! /j ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:32, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- You made another one! “I”m”! ;) Tails Wx 18:50, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- Ok that one is just cause of the keyboard. I hold shift for a bit too long so it capitalizes two characters instead of just one. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:55, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- You made another one! “I”m”! ;) Tails Wx 18:50, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- Don't give away my spelling errors! People can't know I"m not perfect! /j ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:32, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- Honestly, I would say it might. Per Blaze, I would also go to WP:RSN. And "Ask"! It's not to "as at WP:RSN"! Tails Wx 18:20, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
Maybe...
Hi, again. As the consensus is clearly that my opinion is irrelevant and given you've taken so much interest in this matter so far, maybe you'd like to follow this issue up. I personally can't be bothered. --Technopat (talk) 17:58, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
Not impressed!
Hi Blaze Wolf. Apart from feeding a troll by publicly calling me out, and then making me waste my valuable time having to justify my warnings, you now send me off to read WP:BADSAND. Fine, happy to learn new stuff and I didn't know that particular information page. The trouble is, the very first thing on that page, "Unacceptable use of the sandbox", is precisely why I warned that vandal in the first, and second places. I shall now return to reverting more vandal edits and hopefully, find time to do some more constructive edits. --Technopat (talk) 19:38, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Technopat:
Apart from feeding a troll
how exactly is this user a troll? Yes they may have been blocked on their home wiki, but coming here and making edits to the sandbox doesn't immediately strike me as being a troll. If you believe it's a waste of time to justify your warnings then it might be a bit hard for newcomers to understand the issues with their editing. Also, that page describes what is considered an unacceptable use of the sandbox. I don't see that user as a vandal at all. Sure they did remove the sandbox header that the bot readded saying it's a "waste of bytes" (which is not true at all, Wikipedia's servers are not even close to running out of space), but I don't really see that as worthy of a warning unless they do it multiple times. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:45, 11 May 2023 (UTC)- So what, in your opinion, is "multiple times"? Apart from a clear pattern in that user's edits, indicating zero interest in contributing to this project, twice is more than enough. But that's it, I have no interest in wasting any more time on this issue. If you think that that user's block is unjustified, take it up with the admin. who blocked him. --Technopat (talk) 19:55, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- The user isn't blocked on this Wiki. They're blocked on roWiki. Being blocked on another Wiki doesn't mean they need to be blocked on this Wiki. In my opinion if they remove the sandbox header 5 times that's deserving of a warning, and then warnings after that if they continue since to me that shows clear ignorance of the warnings. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:58, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- (stalking) Technopat I appreciate you helping out with recent changes patrol; many hands make light work so it's always nice to have more people around.
- Looking this over Blaze Wolf is absolutely right, the edits weren't vandalism as such and the warnings were not justified. As a general rule the public sandboxes are best ignored, they have low visibility and bots clear them regularly, so unless it's something particularly egregious just ignore it. Many disruptive editors are really just attention seekers and when feasible denying them attention itself has value.
- Sometimes content requiring revision deletion or oversight does get posted and should be removed quickly but that doesn't happen very often.
- That someone is blocked on a different wiki may be evidence used in assessing a pattern of behavior but caution is needed; some projects have after all have had some serious sitewide issues e.g. see the research done on hrwiki. In this specific case the block seems fully justified but remember we often encourage contributors who are blocked here to edit constructively on other wikis to provide evidence that they've reformed and this also applies in reverse. So while this is a case to keep on eye on, and I'm not particularly thrilled with the edits so far, we're not yet to the point of needing sysop intervention.
- As a minor side-note you can run out of bytes, and having too many templates on it's own may be an issue. But they were so far from those limits the edits were most likely made in ignorance. Of course, giving people room to make edits in ignorance is one of the reasons we have sandboxes in the first place.
- All that said, making mistakes is one of the ways we learn; and Wikipedia is such a big and complicated place that all of us are always learning no matter how many edits you have or how long you've been around, myself very much included. The key thing is learning from mistakes and trying to reduce them going forward. When long-term editors are sanctioned what's at issue is not so much making mistakes as refusing to learn from them.
- This has gotten longer than I intended it to be, but I hope you find it useful. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 22:35, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
As a minor side-note you can run out of bytes, and having too many templates on it's own may be an issue.
I knew too many templates could be an issue (I've witnessed this on the DYK pages), but I didn't know running out of bytes was possible. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 01:01, 12 May 2023 (UTC)- To be fair, even our currently longest article is only about 2/3 the way to that limit. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 02:06, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- Tbh that article could probably be split up. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 02:10, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- I actually think a 12-way split would be fully justified so each current time period has its own page, especially as accessibility is somewhat impeded by collapsed sections, but my availability is far to irregular to shepherd a split discussion given their typically interminable nature. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 02:18, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- I would do so but, uh, I like having a functional computer. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 02:18, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- I actually think a 12-way split would be fully justified so each current time period has its own page, especially as accessibility is somewhat impeded by collapsed sections, but my availability is far to irregular to shepherd a split discussion given their typically interminable nature. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 02:18, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- Tbh that article could probably be split up. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 02:10, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- To be fair, even our currently longest article is only about 2/3 the way to that limit. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 02:06, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- So what, in your opinion, is "multiple times"? Apart from a clear pattern in that user's edits, indicating zero interest in contributing to this project, twice is more than enough. But that's it, I have no interest in wasting any more time on this issue. If you think that that user's block is unjustified, take it up with the admin. who blocked him. --Technopat (talk) 19:55, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
Branch onto a serious discussion regarding List of Glagolitic manuscripts
Sorry for accessibility problems. Autocollapsing is only a temporary fix to decrease load time. Only about 300 kb left before it stops rendering sources properly. I have a split plan, but I first have to extract information from the last remaining key catalogues and then remove duplicates. Do either of you know a good tool for making splitting easier? The references are in all of the sections and I could do it manually but something semi-automatic would be very nice. Ivan (talk) 16:46, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Ivan: I wasn't trying to call you out or anything. Now that I think about it, perhaps it was a touch rude to critique your work, however indirectly, without a ping or talk page pointer. It just happened to be the page currently at the top of Special:LongPages when I checked for an example.
- I can't think of any scripts off the top of my head, but I believe Pppery has extensive knowledge of all of the currently popular user-scripts, and may be able to offer some insight. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 20:28, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- I have no desire to get involved with this mess. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:29, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- Understandable, I'm sure your availability is also limited, and any split will involve a lot of work.
- @Ivan: I recommend trying WP:SCRIPTREQ or perusing WP:USL to see if anything looks helpful. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 20:38, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you so much! Ivan (talk) 21:06, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- I have no desire to get involved with this mess. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:29, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
Move discussion on Talk:Bugatti
I just started a move discussion directly related to a previous one which you participated in. Would you be interested in joining? Marisauna (talk) 21:52, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
Camilla
Hello. You reverted my removal of the word "Consort" from Andrew Parker Bowles as it "did not appear to be constructive". My edit was constructive and timely because Queen Camilla is not titled "Queen Consort" following her coronation. I note that the word "Consort" has been removed again by another editor following your revert. 82.14.95.59 (talk) 13:02, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- Please see the talk page on Queen Camilla where you will see a consensus for removing the word "Consort" ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 12:06, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
3RR
This is a reminder to you that you have violated 3RR at Splatoon 3 as well. 3RR does not allow you to restore to a preferred or initial version. You've made 4 reverts. I've opt'd to simply warn you this time, but another sysop could take another view. -- ferret (talk) 01:31, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- ferret strictly speaking that's not quite accurate as the 4th revert was just barely more than 24 hours from the 1st.
- Having said that Blaze Wolf, such edits just beyond the 24 hour period are still highly disfavored as they can't help but appear as attempts to WP:GAME the system and it is well within sysop discretion to block for them. Reversions of violations of the MoS do not automatically qualify for 3RRNO, and it also would've been better to avoid using rollback there as well.
- Mostly just a teachable moment; most patrollers have been there at one time or another just from the mindset that overtakes you in the moment. Remember you can always reach out to others at the appropriate community forums; you don't have to do it all on your own.
- There is a lack of consensus around the edges in some cases (e.g. impairing accessibility without edit summaries), but I would strongly encourage you not to rely upon that, since even if the noticeboard discussion finds in your favor, it's still going to needlessly suck up a lot of community time. If something needs immediate reversion it will be covered by 3RRNO, or at the very least by an invocation of IAR that no reasonable person would contest. Otherwise no harm in waiting a bit for the wider community to have a look. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 04:01, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hello ferret and IP!
it also would've been better to avoid using rollback there as well
I mainly just use rollback as undo since I"m still able to provide an edit summary with the edit and it's easier than using undo. That said I do agree that I should not have been edit warring there and that it was rather foolish to continue reverting them. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 12:05, 15 May 2023 (UTC)- While ROLLBACKUSE no longer covers cases where a non-generic edit summary is generated, it's still considered impolite to use it for content disputes. For brevity, feel free to refer to me as 74 in threads where I'm the only IP beginning with those numbers. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 17:11, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hello ferret and IP!
Tech News: 2023-20
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- Citations that are automatically generated based on ISBN are currently broken. This affects citations made with the VisualEditor Automatic tab, and the use of the citoid API in gadgets and user scripts. Work is ongoing to restore this feature. [15]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 May. It will be on all wikis from 18 May (calendar).
- Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" (Gorontalo Wikipedia, Hausa Wikipedia, Hakka Chinese Wikipedia, Hawaiian Wikipedia, Fiji Hindi Wikipedia, Croatian Wikipedia, Upper Sorbian Wikipedia, Haitian Creole Wikipedia, Interlingua Wikipedia, Interlingue Wikipedia, Igbo Wikipedia, Iloko Wikipedia, Ingush Wikipedia, Ido Wikipedia, Icelandic Wikipedia, Inuktitut Wikipedia, Jamaican Patois Wikipedia, Javanese Wikipedia). This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally. [16]
Future changes
- There is a recently formed team at the Wikimedia Foundation which will be focusing on experimenting with new tools. Currently they are building a prototype ChatGPT plugin that allows information generated by ChatGPT to be properly attributed to the Wikimedia projects.
- Gadget and userscript developers should replace
jquery.cookie
withmediawiki.cookie
. Thejquery.cookie
library will be removed in ~1 month, and staff developers will run a script to replace any remaining uses at that time. [17]
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Question from Petertsamson247 on Imvepi Refugee Settlement (07:38, 16 May 2023)
I would like to know how to upload pictures to Wikipedia --Petertsamson247 (talk) 07:38, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Petertsamson247: Hello there! See WP:UPI for how to do so. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:59, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
Undoing edits
Hi - could I ask why you keep undoing my edits? Wgs1812 (talk) 13:39, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Wgs1812: Hi there! First, please read WP:PAID and WP:COI as your username suggests both. Second, none of the information you are adding has any sources attached to it. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 13:40, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- So...if I added a caveat stating that page had recently been updated by the school to reflect current figures, would that be enough? We just want to make sure the correct information is there!
- I am new to this - what do I need to attach sources to? Wgs1812 (talk) 13:46, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Wgs1812: No. In fact that would be completely inappropriate as per the WMF Terms of Use, accounts can only be used by 1 single person. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 13:49, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
CVU training request
Hello, I would like to have some training on Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit/Academy so I can find out what to do when should I revert vandalism or assuming good faith to other users, and I also have over 200+ edits. Thank you. 64andtim (talk) 14:19, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- @64andtim: Hi there! I would be happy to train you, however there are currently 2 problems. First, I'm already training someone and I currently only have 1 slot available, but after I"m done with them I will increase it to 2 since I'll know generally how it'll work. Second, if you carefully read what it says, you'll see that it says
200 edits to MAINSPACE
(emphasis mine). While you have 200 edits total, this link tells me that you only have 129 edits to mainspace. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:32, 17 May 2023 (UTC)- Alright, I'll edit some more articles (undoing/reverting) in mainspace, thank you. 64andtim (talk) 15:11, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
Verizon History request
Hi Blaze Wolf, I have put together my last suggestion for the History section on the Verizon Communications article and since you had interest in one of these updates, I wanted to notify you of this request. I posted the latest request to the Verizon Communications Talk page.
As you know, I work for Verizon and I have a conflict of interest so I ask others to look at my requests and make edits on my behalf. As always, I can answer any questions you have on the Verizon Communications Talk page. Thank you, VZEric (talk) 21:15, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
The Signpost: 22 May 2023
- In the media: History, propaganda and censorship
- Arbitration report: Final decision in "World War II and the history of Jews in Poland"
- Featured content: A very musical week for featured articles
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Tech News: 2023-21
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The "recent edits" time period for page watchers is now 30 days. It used to be 180 days. This was a Community Wishlist Survey proposal. [18]
Changes later this week
- An improved impact module will be available at Wikipedias. The impact module is a feature available to newcomers at their personal homepage. It will show their number of edits, how many readers their edited pages have, how many thanks they have received and similar things. It is also accessible by accessing Special:Impact. [19]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 May. It will be on all wikis from 25 May (calendar).
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Wikipedia commitment
Hello Blaze Wolf. I hope you're doing well. First of all, congratulations on being a CVUA trainer! I see that fellow Wikipedians are requesting instruction from you. I'm writing this message to you because, for me, it's hard to focus on editing Wikipedia. I struggle to find the motivation to edit Wikipedia, and even when I do, my editing activity is sporadic at best.
I admire your constant presence here, and I've encountered you working hard often when I did recent pages patrol. Here are some questions I have in mind:
- How do you stay motivated and inspired to contribute regularly? Are there any particular strategies or routines you follow to keep yourself engaged?
- How do you balance your editing activities with other commitments and obligations outside Wikipedia? Do you have any suggestions for integrating editing into a busy schedule?
I appreciate any advice or personal experiences you are willing to share, and I think your guidance will help me come back to this community. Thank you. Khrincan (talk) 16:59, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Khrincan: Hello there Khrin! I'll do my best to answer your questions, though I really don't do anything specific (tbh it's probably cause I'm autistic)
How do you stay motivated and inspired to contribute regularly? Are there any particular strategies or routines you follow to keep yourself engaged?
Most of the time I just happen to be randomly interested in something and then suddenly oh no I've fallen down a rabbit hole and have forgotten what I was even doing originally. My main interest is anything video game related and those always seem to have something to do. I've never really had any specific strategy or routine I do to say motivated and inspired, however something that does help me keep track of things I've been working on (cause I can get sidetracked very easily and forget what I was doing) is my Major Accomplishments section, especially the in progress section, as that allows me to keep track some things that I'm working on.How do you balance your editing activities with other commitments and obligations outside Wikipedia? Do you have any suggestions for integrating editing into a busy schedule?
Make sure Wikipedia is the least of your priorities. Wikipedia should never take priority over anything else in your life. Remember, there is no deadline, Wikipedia can wait. Granted, my life seems to be less busy than others', however I still don't let anything else be prioritized before Wikipedia.
- Hope this helps! ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 00:02, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
Growth team newsletter #26
Welcome to the twenty-sixth newsletter from the Growth team! Help with translations
One million Suggested Edits
We passed the 1 million Suggested edits milestone in late April!
- The Suggested edits feature (AKA Newcomer tasks) increase newcomer activation by ~12%, which flows on through to increased retention. (source)
- Suggested edits increase the number of edits newcomers complete in their first two weeks and have a relatively low revert rate. (source)
- Suggested edits are available on all Wikipedia language editions.
- Newer Suggested edits, like Add a link and Add an image, aren’t yet deployed to all wikis, but these structured tasks further increase the probability that newcomers will make their first edit. (source)
Positive reinforcement
Positive reinforcement aims to encourage newcomers who have visited our homepage and tried Growth features to keep editing.
- The new Impact module was released to Growth pilot wikis in December 2022, and we are now scaling the feature to another ten wikis. [20]
- The Leveling up features are deployed at our pilot wikis.
- The Personalized praise features were deployed at our pilot wikis on May 24. Mentors at pilot wikis will start to receive notifications weekly when they have “praise-worthy” mentees. Mentors can configure their notification preferences or disable these notifications.
Add an image
- We are creating a new section-level variation of the “add an image” task. We have tested the accuracy of suggestions, and the development of this new task is well-underway. [21]
Other updates
- We are progressively releasing Add a link to more wikis. [22]
- After adding Thanks to Recent Changes, Watchlist and Special:Contributions, we investigated Thanks usage on the wikis. There is no evidence that thanks increased after the feature was added on more pages.
- We helped with code review for the 2023 Community Wish to add Notifications for user page edits. [23]
- We have been attending several community events, that we documented in our Growth’s Community events report.
What's next for Growth?
- We shared an overview of Growth annual planning ideas, and have started community discussion about these potential projects. We would love to hear your feedback on these ideas!
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Tech News: 2023-22
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Citations can once again be added automatically from ISBNs, thanks to Zotero's ISBN searches. The current data sources are the Library of Congress (United States), the Bibliothèque nationale de France (French National Library), and K10plus ISBN (German repository). Additional data source searches can be proposed to Zotero. The ISBN labels in the VisualEditor Automatic tab will reappear later this week. [24]
- The page Special:EditWatchlist now has "Check all" options to select all the pages within a namespace. This feature request was voted #161 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey. [25]
Problems
- For a few days earlier this month, the "Add interlanguage link" item in the Tools menu did not work properly. This has now been fixed. [26]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 May. It will be on all wikis from 1 June (calendar).
- VisualEditor will be switched to a new backend on small and medium wikis this week. Large wikis will follow in the coming weeks. This is part of the effort to move Parsoid into MediaWiki core. The change should have no noticeable effect on users, but if you experience any slow loading or other strangeness when using VisualEditor, please report it on the phabricator ticket linked here. [27]
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@Blaze Wolf CALMER345 (talk) 20:05, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- what do you mean I made a mistake CALMER345 (talk) 20:07, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- where? CALMER345 (talk) 20:08, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
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Tech News: 2023-23
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The RealMe extension allows you to mark URLs on your user page as verified for Mastodon and similar software.
- Citation and footnote editing can now be started from the reference list when using the visual editor. This feature request was voted #2 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey. [28]
- Previously, clicking on someone else's link to Recent Changes with filters applied within the URL could unintentionally change your preference for "Group results by page". This has now been fixed. [29]
Problems
- For a few days last week, some tools and bots returned outdated information due to database replication problems, and may have been down entirely while it was being fixed. These issues have now been fixed. [30]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 June. It will be on all wikis from 8 June (calendar).
- Bots will no longer be prevented from making edits because of URLs that match the spam blacklist. [31]
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Question from Alpatriot (08:26, 7 June 2023)
How can I use an image from the internet --Alpatriot (talk) 08:26, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- (stalking) @Alpatriot: Images cannot be used directly from external sites though sometimes a link using {{external media}} may be appropriate. If released under a suitable license (e.g. CC-BY-SA or CC0) they can be uploaded to Commons either directly or through a crosswiki upload from here, at which point they may be used like any other file; see WP:HTUAP for details. If they do not have a compatible license they cannot generally be used. NFC images may be hosted here under limited circumstances, but doing so is quite complicated and I advise against that until you are more experienced. Help:Pictures has some additional details on how to use once uploaded. WP:IMG has links to many other useful explanatory pages. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 07:16, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
Tech News: 2023-24
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The content attribution tools Who Wrote That?, XTools Authorship, and XTools Blame now support the Dutch, German, Hungarian, Indonesian, Japanese, Polish and Portuguese Wikipedias. This was the #7 wish in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey. [32]
- The Search Preview panel has been deployed on four Wikipedias (Catalan, Dutch, Hungarian and Norwegian). The panel will show an image related to the article (if existing), the top sections of the article, related images (coming from MediaSearch on Commons), and eventually the sister projects associated with the article. [33]
- The RealMe extension now allows administrators to verify URLs for any page, for Mastodon and similar software. [34]
- The default project license has been officially upgraded to CC BY-SA 4.0. The software interface messages have been updated. Communities should feel free to start updating any mentions of the old CC BY-SA 3.0 licensing within policies and related documentation pages. [35]
Problems
- For three days last month, some Wikipedia pages edited with VisualEditor or DiscussionTools had an unintended
__TOC__
(or its localized form) added during an edit. There is a listing of affected pages sorted by wiki, that may still need to be fixed. [36] - Currently, the "Sort this page by default as" feature in VisualEditor is broken. Existing
{{DEFAULTSORT:...}}
keywords incorrectly appear as missing templates in VisualEditor. Developers are exploring how to fix this. In the meantime, those wishing to edit the default sortkey of a page are advised to switch to source editing. [37] - Last week, an update to the delete form may have broken some gadgets or user scripts. If you need to manipulate (empty) the reason field, replace
#wpReason
with#wpReason > input
. See an example fix. [38]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 June. It will be on all wikis from 15 June (calendar).
- VisualEditor will be switched to a new backend on English Wikipedia on Monday, and all other large wikis on Thursday. The change should have no noticeable effect on users, but if you experience any slow loading or other strangeness when using VisualEditor, please report it on the phabricator ticket linked here. [39]
Future changes
- From 5 June to 17 July, the Foundation's Security team is holding a consultation with contributors regarding a draft policy to govern the use of third-party resources in volunteer-developed gadgets and scripts. Feedback and suggestions are warmly welcome at Third-party resources policy on meta-wiki.
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Question from Cococolajourneys (02:17, 12 June 2023)
Hello! Thanks for reviewing Draft:Data Lakehouse in January. Based on your feedback I made some really extensive changes to establish significance. The reader can read about how the industry is using this storage paradigm. In addition this topic is now referenced here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_lake#Data_lakehouse, but I believe having a separate page will be a good way to modularize this content since I've added a substantial amount of context. Mind taking a look? Cococolajourneys (talk) 19:26, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
Question from CrazzieTrain (23:10, 16 June 2023)
Hello, Mister Mentor... How do I join the vandalism counter group? --CrazzieTrain (talk) 23:10, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
- @CrazzieTrain: Hello Crazzie! You don't have to do much to indicate that you're part of it. All you have to do is add one of the userboxes listed in the participants sections of the main WP:CVU page to your userpage. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 23:37, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
The Signpost: 19 June 2023
- News and notes: WMF Terms of Use now in force, new Creative Commons licensing
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Tech News: 2023-25
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Recent changes
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
- There is now a toolbar search popup in the visual editor. You can trigger it by typing
\
or pressingctrl + shift + p
. It can help you quickly access most tools in the editor. [42][43]
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Question from Reverend.Editor (21:02, 21 June 2023)
Hello friend, Are my edits so far the type of things I should be doing? --Reverend.Editor (talk) 21:03, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
Poland at the UN Inauguration…
Hello, I’m so sorry, I wanted this article to be corrected many years ago, and I just wanted to help fix it, but if there are any unreliable sources, I’ll do my best to help change this. My sources come from another Wikipedia article which has existed with said sources for the past years, so if this Wikipedia article, Poland Is Not Yet Lost, is instead the article containing the wrong information about Poland, the UN Inauguration, Arthur Rubinstein, and the Polish President, then I’d be happy to see this article changed so that these articles are no longer conflicting with each other.
Please note: I’m having a technical issue which is preventing me from accessing the source code editor, I may need help adding “[94] Participation of the President of the Republic of Poland in an Academic Conference https://www.president.pl/archive/news-archive-2000-2010/news-2005/participation-of-the-president-of-the-republic-of-poland-in-an-academic-conference-8216the-united-nations-an,37839“ to the list of references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Butterflydog (talk • contribs) 01:40, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
Here are my references:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland_Is_Not_Yet_Lost
https://web.archive.org/web/20110728143749/http://unyearbook.un.org/1946-47YUN/1946-47_P1_CH1.pdf
http://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/CTC/uncharter.pdf
https://www.worldcat.org/title/52520112
https://books.google.com/books?id=09pTHi1D1D8C
https://web.archive.org/web/20130309171653/http://www.un.org/depts/dhl/unms/founders.shtml
https://www.worldcat.org/search?q=n2:0740-5944 Butterflydog (talk) 01:25, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
Can you please help to correct the contradiction of these Wikipedia articles?
The Wikipedia articles Member states of the United Nations and Poland and the United Nations have been unchanged and remain in contradiction of the Wikipedia article Poland Is Not Yet Lost.
Namely, the issue is this: the latter article states that • no delegation from Poland was present • Poland was not allowed to sign • there was no Polish flag present at the Inauguration • pianist Arthur Rubinstein was greatly dismayed at the fact that Poland was not present nor represented at the Inauguration which he had been invited to play piano at • several decades later, the Polish President recounted this incident, with strong words about how Poland was excluded from the UN (read article here: https://www.president.pl/archive/news-archive-2000-2010/news-2005/participation-of-the-president-of-the-republic-of-poland-in-an-academic-conference-8216the-united-nations-an,37839)
None of these issues have yet been resolved, and thus these articles have been in contradiction for many, many years.
I recently created an account, to help to correct these errors and many others that I regularly find on Wikipedia (typos, grammatical errors, historical inaccuracies, etc.) but I am having technical difficulties with the source code reference editor.
Please, if any of you Wikipedia editors care about the plight of Poland and its people, help fix this broken history! Butterflydog (talk) 01:58, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Butterflydog: It seems you are here to right great wrongs. If you genuinely think there is an issue with these articles feel free to make a edit request on the relevant talk pages. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 02:03, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
Question from Rizzberry Pi (16:40, 22 June 2023)
Hello, as a mentor, what do you do? --Rizzberry Pi (talk) 16:40, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Rizzberry Pi: Hi there! As a mentor I mostly help out new users with figuring out how Wikipedia functions! ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:48, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
Tech News: 2023-26
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The Action API modules and Special:LinkSearch will now add a trailing
/
to allprop=extlinks
responses for bare domains. This is part of the work to remove duplication in theexternallinks
database table. [44]
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- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 June. It will be on all wikis from 29 June (calendar).
- The Minerva skin now applies more predefined styles to the
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- The review form of the Flagged Revisions extension now uses the standardized user interface components. [51]
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MediaWiki message delivery 16:16, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
Your signature
Hi! Your signature still has the subscript suffix "Blaze Wolf#6545", which is outdated now. Maybe you like keeping that part, I just thought I'd mention it since it is outdated now, in accordance to your user page. Thanks for editing. ButterCashier (talk) 14:32, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- @ButterCashier: I knew I was missing something! I believe the reason I haven't changed it yet is cause underscores can break things, but I'm going to see if I can get around that. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:45, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- I've gotten it changed. Thank you for reminding me! ― Blaze WolfTalkblaze__wolf 14:54, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
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Your draft article, User:Jordanparise/sandbox
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MediaWiki message delivery 19:51, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
Please revert the area of Extremadura back to what it was.
Hello! The name is Mickey Jackson du Hartford, I'm from the US state of Georgia, born 2003 and i have a question for you? Can you revert the area of Extremadura back to where it was? Initially it was simply just 41,634 sq km with no .16, but then, (Personal attack removed) added a .16 decimal, and this is just dumb, because i see no evidence of it being that large. Can you revert it and tell the user that he made a mistake? And click here for his talk page by the way. PS: This edit occurred on October 27 on 18:59. Mickey J. Hartford (talk) 04:39, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
- (stalking) @Mickey J. Hartford: I've reverted the edit per MOS:LARGENUM. Going forward feel free to make reverts on your own, as you do not need to request them. Please do not refer to your fellow contributors as
idiots
especially when you link their usernames, I also advise reviewing WP:CIVIL. I don't see a need to leave a warning for a months old edit, the reason for the reversion is available in my edit summary. In the future you may benefit from directing any questions you may have to the WP:TEAHOUSE as Blaze Wolf is presently busy IRL. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 15:02, 16 July 2023 (UTC)- Blaze Wolf could've replied to this, but whatever.
- Anyways, sorry. Mickey J. Hartford (talk) 16:29, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
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I noticed you had some badges (ie. This user is a furry, and this user owns a ns). How can you obtain them? Other than copying the scripture.
Thnx,
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