Template talk:Infobox military person
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Underscores
[edit]Noticed that some parameters, including serviceyears and servicenumber, don't have underscores as required per INFOBOXNAME. Can that be corrected? QuietHere (talk | contributions) 09:03, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Done. Feel free to update the documentation for consistency. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:53, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
"Commands held"
[edit]Could this not be shortened to "Commands"? It would be concise, communicate the very same information, and decrease the width of the lefthand parameters column when displayed (thereby less frequently causing uncontrolled line breaking in both columns). — Fourthords | =Λ= | 22:44, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
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As mentioned above, reducing all instances "Commands held" to "Commands" for (a) concision, (b) reducing induction of visible unintended parameter & variable line-breaking, (c) equally communicating the exact same meaning, (d) and to match the infobox code itself. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 18:38, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Done if anyone disagrees this can be reverted on request — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:06, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks so much! — Fourthords | =Λ= | 21:44, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Rank
[edit]There's been quite a bit of discussion on Talk:Tim Walz regarding the rank field here. The documentation used to say highest rank unless reduced, but that was changed three years ago. It's also been raised that if Tim Walz is listed as a Command Sergeant Major, because he held that rank until retirement, then Ronny Jackson should be listed as a RDML. Any thoughts about how this should properly work? Thanks. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:08, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- The discussions at those talk pages should not be forked to here. The discussion that led to the 2021 template documentation change was this one at WP Military history. If consensus cannot be reached at the article's talk page, you could post a note at the WikiProject page to ask people to visit. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:07, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not trying to fork the discussions - I'm looking for confirmation — or not — that the documentation still matches the larger consensus over the use of this field. I don't usually work in the MilHist realm, so I don't know the best practices. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:33, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Edit request on 14 August 2024
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To any administrator, apply my edit to this infobox's sandbox: replace font-size: 125% in |abovestyle= with {{{abovestyle|}}}. Santiago Claudio (talk) 04:24, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Please explain the purpose of this edit. Also, I have removed the setting in the edit request saying that this is an edit request for Template:Infobox officeholder rather than Template:Infobox military person. SilverLocust 💬 10:26, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- This edit request is for consistency with
|abovestyle=in Template:Infobox person. Santiago Claudio (talk) 02:12, 16 August 2024 (UTC)- I encourage the requester to test their new parameter on the testcases page. I expect that an error will appear in Preview mode; the new parameter needs to be added to the unknown parameter check. This advice goes for all three edit requests filed by the requester. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:58, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
Not done pending a response to MSGJ's queries elsewhere * Pppery * it has begun... 22:07, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- I synced the testcases; there were no errors. Santiago Claudio (talk) 02:46, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Which test case contains a demonstration of
|abovestyle=? – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:33, 20 August 2024 (UTC)- Parameter names! Santiago Claudio (talk) 00:48, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Which test case contains a demonstration of
- I synced the testcases; there were no errors. Santiago Claudio (talk) 02:46, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- I encourage the requester to test their new parameter on the testcases page. I expect that an error will appear in Preview mode; the new parameter needs to be added to the unknown parameter check. This advice goes for all three edit requests filed by the requester. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:58, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- This edit request is for consistency with
Military service
[edit]Should this template be used on subject mandatory conscription?, or theres no need to input military service since it's not the subject main occupation ot what the subject is known for 27.125.250.21 (talk) 17:32, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Usage
[edit]Is this infobox designed for members of the military services of current or former states, or can it be used for members of non-state paramilitary organisations? E.g. in Ian Milne it (or elements within it such as '| branch, | branch_label,| battles, | unit, | rank') is used for membership of the Provisional Irish Republican Army. If the latter, how far does this extend? I can imagine controversy if it could be used for members of some other groups in "Category:Organizations based in Europe designated as terrorist".
I feel that the current wording "a soldier or military leader, or for uniformed officers in non-military branches *of government*" implies that 'soldier or military leader' means "soldier or military leader in the military branch of a government" Alekksandr (talk) 19:57, 28 September 2024 (UTC)