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Russell Brandom (March 6, 2018). "How gun buffs took over Wikipedia's AR-15 page". The Verge. Archived from the original on March 6, 2018. Retrieved March 7, 2018. For months, the "Colt AR-15" page has been largely edited by a group of gun enthusiast editors. They joined together under the name "Wikipedia Project: Firearms," or "WP:Firearms" for short.

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Handguards (forearms)

Handguards seem to be addressed in a stub article forearm (firearm component), but it is addressed in much more detail in barrel shroud. Should the articles merge or perhaps one should be deleted? Hi (talk) 20:08, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Tel al-Sultan airstikes#Requested move 27 May 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Tel al-Sultan airstikes#Requested move 27 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 05:47, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kalashnikov rifle

Kalashnikov rifle (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is currently rated as low-importance. Considering that this platform (the AK) is the most popular military-power long-arm in the world, and likely the most widely produced firearm in the world, this seems odd to me. It's so popular it has been featured on the flags of countries. It's so legendarily widely known to reputedly to be never jam under any circumstances. -- 65.92.244.143 (talk) 11:12, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Crime-related articles involving firearms use

I have been asked a question about adding the WikiProject Firearms banner to crime-related articles that involve firearms use. I interpret the scope of this WikiProject to be about articles whose topics are about the firearms themselves, as well as related legislation, organisations, and craftspeople. While it does not explicitly say so, I interpret this cope as excluding articles about crimes where firearms are used or involved in the commission of the crime concerned. However, the section on criminal use appears open to mis-interpretation as it could be read as implying that crime-related articles that involve criminals using firearm are included in the project. I understand this section only addresses mentioning notable crimes that involve specific weapons to be mentioned in articles about those weapons, not a blanket inclusion of crime-related articles where firearms are used. What is actually intended here? Can the project scope have an explicit statement about whether crime-related articles that involve the use of firearms are excluded or included in this project. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 11:03, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My own thought is that articles about mis-use of item are off topic from the item itself. For example, Wikipedia:WikiProject Automobiles is not listed at Drunk driving North8000 (talk) 12:21, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@North8000: I take your point, but I don't think that really answers the question here. I notice that the banner for WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography is not listed on Talk:Drunk driving, either, when the article talks about imprisonment for breaking the law, which would make it a crime. The scope of WikiProject Automobiles is also rather broad and includes all "types" of vehicles, which could mean those (mis-)used when drunk driving. So the lack of a banner could simply be an oversight or omission, or someone deciding not to include the banner on the grounds of project scope or over-bannering. Personally, I would consider it reasonable for someone to add the banner for both WikiProjects. The issue here is that mis-use is considered in-scope for the articles about the firearms items, themselves, does it also mean that a crime-related article such as the 2023 Annapolis shooting is also in-scope where the weapons used are described in general terms as a "gun" and a "rifle", without reference to a particular make, model or calibre. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 22:10, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Competes in a few hours ..

This Olympian competes in a few hours .. in case someone may be interested in reviewing and perhaps creating her draft article -- Draft:Ada Korkhin. In advance of reader interest in her that is sure to come. Thanks. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:C88D:848F:5F9A:6FA0 (talk) 21:48, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly relevant discussion at Manual of Style/Dates and numbers

See Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers#Ammunition_calibre/length_naming_conventions - this may be of interest to members of this project.Nigel Ish (talk) 09:22, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Related to that, what's with titles like "7.62×54mmR" and "23×152mmB" and "20×138mmB". How are these R and B suffixes to be understood? And why do we put them there, when sources more commonly use things like "7.62 × 54R mm" and "23×152B mm" (which are equally hard to interpret)? Dicklyon (talk) 02:13, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, Rim and Belted, I see. Should we try to have a standard on how to present these? Dicklyon (talk) 01:39, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete List of firearms (A), etc.?

Six letters have articles like this, and twenty do not. I did a pass of style fixing on (A), but the rest are as bad and need a lot of work. Do we really want to have these fragments of alphabetical listings, in a searchable encyclopedia? Dicklyon (talk) 22:15, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did some case fixing on List of firearms (M), too. Dicklyon (talk) 03:44, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like these were pulled out of List of firearms, which continues to accumulate more unsourced stuff under those letters, too. I think I'll nominate the lot for deletion. Dicklyon (talk) 03:46, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BAR caps

Hello WikiProject Firearms members. Which is the correct capitalization -- "M1918 Browning Automatic Rifle" or "M1918 Browning automatic rifle"? There is currently a discussion about this, at Talk:M1918 Browning automatic rifle#Recent move. Interested editors are encouraged to comment there (and not here, to keep the discussion all in one place). — Mudwater^(Talk) 22:34, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion is now at Talk:M1918 Browning Automatic Rifle#Requested move 27 August 2024. Interested editors are encouraged to comment there. Thanks. — Mudwater^(Talk) 02:10, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request to Move at Gun show loophole

There is a discussion regarding moving the article Gun show loophole -> Private sale of firearms in the United States [1]. A related NPOVN discussion is here [2]. Springee (talk) 00:03, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]