Talk:Tamil Nadu/Archive 2
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Maintaining the quality of the page
There have been quite a few edits recently, I just thought it might be helpful to highlight a few Wikipolicies. Wikipedia has three main policies, namely: verifiability, no original research and Point of View (POV).
1) Citations I have found (and subsequently edited out) the following:
- "The name Tamil Nadu was given amidst much opposition"
- "Vanniyar kula kshatriya's community(33% of Total population) is the most dominant caste and largest community in Tamilnadu."
- "Ramasamy padaiyachi who formed the first regional party[common wheel party] in tamilnadu and one more party formed by Manikavelu Naicker[toilers party]."
If you do not have citations from published and peer-reviewed sourced, your information will probably be regarded as original research and be quickly removed. Please check WP:OR for further information.
2) POV Wikipedia policy WP:POV ensures that neutrality is maintained. The following can obviously be contested and debated; so ensure more tentative wording.
- "...most dominant caste"
- "...took the Justice Party away from its original path"
- "a moribund existence under E.V.Ramaswamy"
- "(a poet who inspired the freedom movement by his poetic skills"
- "Industrialist, who managed ships under the free India banner"
3) Language
- A kind reminder that this an English language article. Sentences like "Vanniyar kula kshatriya" is not going to make sense to an average English speaker.
- Please use encyclopaedia terminology, for example 'tamilnadu' or 'Tamilnadu' is not acceptable. Kindly use Tamil Nadu.
Hope this helps!--தமிழ் வாழ்க; யாதும் ஊரே, யாவரும் கேளிர் 20:20, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Semi-Protection
Many vandal threats and poorly sourced text and picture inclusions are done by some IPs despite repeat warning. So I raise a proposal for semi-protection status for this page. --BabuOnWiki (talk) 13:05, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Agree - need to avoid frequent vandalism in the important page of WP Tamil Nadu. Ssriram mt (talk) 22:24, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Agree - I also agree for the above reasons. --தமிழ் வாழ்க; யாதும் ஊரே, யாவரும் கேளிர் 11:22, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
Chola sections
How many of you think that the Chola section under Tamil Nadu page has too much of information for a brief note about the history of Tamil Nadu? I propose to abridge this section and move other useful information to the main page of Chola history. Thanks! Balaji. Balaji 05:47, 29 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheyyarbalaji (talk • contribs)
- Agree! Just read the comments above from GA Reviewer. This page must face a major clean up and submitted again for GA Review. --BabuOnWiki (talk) 05:54, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
Merge of Mines of Tamil Nadu
I suggest the Mines of Tamil Nadu is merged into this article, as I don't believe it will be notable on it's own. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 15:09, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
CMC, Vellore
I see somebody, willingly removing references to CMC, Vellore and VIT, Vellore every time I add that. These two are rated among the top institutions in Tamilnadu and we should be proud to have them. Can the person who is removing the references come forward and give an explanation for the same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geico2000 (talk • contribs) 15:31, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Tamil Nadu = Tamil's Country.
Hi, Tamil Nadu = Tamil's Country. How come it is "Land of Tamil's"?
Nadu means country, and Tamil Nadu is the Country of Tamil. Please do not confuse this with Tamizhagam, which is the homeland or land of Tamil.--தமிழ் வாழ்க; யாதும் ஊரே, யாவரும் கேளிர் 01:23, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Please stop Kannada Chauvanisme
A lot sections in medieval Tamil Nadu history were manipulated,please see Pallava and Chola.A lot of mentions regarding Pallava demise as a result of Western Chakluya conquest which hides the truth that the Cholas were the original demiser of Pallava.Same goes to Chola where Kannada empires were frequently suppressed by them but mentioned otherwise.These actions will give a false picture regarding Tamil Nadu history.Please someone correct this as I doesnt have much time to keep up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tan Meifen (talk • contribs) 07:31, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Images
A plea for some sanity here. Please do not add any more images to this article, at least not until the text has been expanded. The Good Article review identified that the layout of images contravened the Manual of Style. I have just spent hours trying to sort out the layout problems, and have just about managed to squeeze them all in, with a lot of shuffling around.
Images should be used to illustrate the text, and to entice the reader to delve into the text. As it was, the images had taken over some sections, and the text had become purely coincidental. This article still has a long way to go to make the grade (parts are nothing more than a list of national parks etc), and some of the language could do with rewriting, but it is, at least, salvageable. Please see the Good Article review linked at the top of this page for more ways in which you can help. Skinsmoke (talk) 01:26, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
Tamil Nadu in Tamil script
I have included the name Tamil Nadu in the Tamil script. I do not see any reason for its removal. Please use the talk page to convey your views. It is also the only de jure language of the state. Thanks.--தமிழ் வாழ்க; யாதும் ஊரே, யாவரும் கேளிர் 14:55, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
- I have removed them again per WP:INDICSCRIPT. And please change your signature. See WP:SIG. — Abhishek Talk 17:01, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
- I could see a lot of discussion on articles starting with regional languages in the INDICSCRIPT thread. But those are articles with disputed languages sources. Given that Tamil is the defacto official language in the Tamil Nadu state and there is not dispute over this, I am including the name written in Tamil script in the lead line of the article. This is consistent with many other Indian states' names are being scripted in their state official language. - Balaji Balaji 05:23, 5 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheyyarbalaji (talk • contribs)
True, it is not only a de facto language, it is the only de jure language of the state. The state does not by law recognise English either, although it is also used in practice. I also feel that the convention should be limited to threads with disputes. --தமிழ் வாழ்க; யாதும் ஊரே, யாவரும் கேளிர் 12:41, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
Any supportive evidence to prove Tamil nadu was technologically advanced?
Hi, was Tamil nadu remained technologically backward throughout thousand of years whereas north India was advanced? Some say that the first Neolithic cultures emerged in North India about 7000 BC, while the South Indian Neolithic lasted from 3000 BC to 1800 BC which proves that Tamilnadu Stayed technologically backward for thousand of years. Any supportive evidence to prove it otherwise? Pearll's SunTALK 02:35, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
- Hi, I am not here for a North-South discussion, but Tamil Nadu had been technologically advanced in the olden days. A study published in Science magazine in 2011, explored early homins and stone tool making industry in Atirampakkam near Chennai and determined that early human lived here 1 million years ago which is Paleolithic period. There is good amount of sources about Iron export from Tamil Nadu to Rome, Greece and Egypt circa 500-600 BCE. I am reading more about this topic and will update the prehistory section once I have a well backed up story. Balaji 05:10, 16 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheyyarbalaji (talk • contribs)
Thanks for the details, it sounds interesting. Me too not for a North-South debate and these details i'm collecting only to clarify a particular point. I hope soon we shall have enough supportive evidence to prove that Tamilandu was technologically advanced. Pearll's SunTALK 07:03, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Proposed merge with Sand mining in Tamil Nadu
This article seems to talk about a social problem in Tamil Nadu CrossTempleJay → talk 10:14, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
This is a very specific social problem with major importance on lives dependent on those basins cited in the article. Having a seperate page will help in further understanding of the subject as well as promote awareness about the issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pandbar (talk • contribs) 15:10, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
I suggest, NOT to merge, as the Sand mining article is about specific eco-socio-economic issue of Tamil Nadu, but not suited to be linked with general article of Tamil Nadu.Balaji 07:13, 2 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheyyarbalaji (talk • contribs)
- Two different topics altogether - removing the banner.Ssriram mt (talk) 01:10, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Indic scripts
As per Wikipedia:INDICSCRIPTS, native scripts should not be added. Shrikanthv (talk) 08:09, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
"Classical" Claims
The article makes various assertions that Tamil Nadu has a "classical" civilization: "classical language", "classical arts, classical music, classical literature," etc. With the partial exception of "classical languages of India", nowhere is "classical" defined, nor are these claims supported by reference to authority. As presented, they seem to be little more than boosterism. The term "classical" in English generally has a Eurocentric meaning, related to ancient Greek and Roman cultures, or to the aesthetic or intellectual traditions derived from those civilizations (as in "classical music", "classical philosophy", etc.). That meaning plainly does not apply to Tamil Nandu's civilization, so what does "classical" mean in this context? Does it just mean "ancient"? If so, how is the "classical" Tamil civilization distinguished from neighboring civilizations that aren't referred to as "classical"? These claims should be elucidated and substantiated. J. D. Crutchfield | Talk 15:12, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Prehistoric Languages
"Neolithic people of the Tamil country spoke a Dravidian language." This is a claim for which there is and can be no evidence whatsoever. Neolithic people left behind no clues as to what languages they spoke, though we can infer the presence of a language in a region from it's current distribution. Jayarava (talk) 08:25, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protection
I would like to suggest to change the status of the Tamil Nadu wiki article to Semi-protected. I have been noticing edits and vandalism by unregistered users as well as new users in this article especially in the 'Religion' section. Balaji 18:19, 22 February 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheyyarbalaji (talk • contribs)
Climate of Tamil Nadu
For the climate section, I have noticed that there has been many infoboxes in other articles in which the avg. high and low for each seasons are depicted. Cam someone either show me how to, or put in themselves, an infobox showing the above information?Kanchipuramsilk83 (talk) 09:30, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
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The High court field in the right side general info table mentions only Madras High court, please include Madurai high court also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.203.238.90 (talk) 11:56, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
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The Central Empire, Nadunaadu
I suggest a removal of the section "The Central Empire, Nadunaadu", the content is unsourced and the language is biased. (2013-04-16)
more inline citations needs to be given (111.92.31.118 (talk) 18:38, 8 December 2016 (UTC))
Semi-protected edit request on 13 April 2017
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Languages, and education in one section?
Langauges, and education stats are squeezed together in one section. The included stats about education are not at all relevant to language section. I think a new section, or sub-section should be created for education. —usernamekiran(talk) 13:45, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
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Transliteration and translation errors and confusions
In some words such as Tamilar, Tamilnadu etc., my opinion is to change 'l' to 'zh' to avoid confusion and errors between ழ, ள and ல while translating.
Arnesh r (talk) 16:08, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
- Please use one of the standard methods of transliteration, such as ISO 15919, instead of using ad-hoc and ambiguous systems. —Gazoth (talk) 17:21, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
translation of name into English
The literally before the translations isn't needed. Tamil Nadu means the land of the Tamils. There's nothing literal about such a translation.
Change name to Tamizhnadu. Calling Tami'L' is a literal mistake in the first place. Translate that. Arun271091 (talk) 10:24, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
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Intentional Glorification of Unconfirmed Historical aspects
This page is containing unreliable information without proper resources.The linkage of Harappan Civilization draws from minority opinion on scholership where the majority had rejected as a hypothesis.This Article is underwent some serious vandalism in sense of instigating Regional pride. Skylark95choppen (talk) 12:14, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
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Proper transliteration
@Prolix: Regarding the transliteration of the demonym, it comes from the root word தமிழ், which is evidently transliterated as "Tamil", per the Hunterian scheme, or ISO 15919; take your pick. Similarly, adding a அர் (ar) to that word to make தமிழர் makes the transliteration Tamilar. The transliteration as "Thamizhar" not only does not follow by that logic, but is not supported by any transliteration scheme. It would be "th" if the first consonant (த) was aspirated, which it isn't (because Tamil doesn't have aspirated consonants), and it would be a "zh" if the consonant was the same as the pronunciation of the "s" in the English word "vision", which it also isn't (because it's yet another sound that doesn't exist in Tamil). I really didn't think this needed any elaboration. Getsnoopy (talk) 08:05, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Getsnoopy, thanks for taking the time to explain this. I brought this up only because of how often I'd seen the demonym spelt 'Tamizhar' or 'Thamizhar'. Your explanation does indeed make sense, ISO 15919 clearly assigns 'ḻ' to the respective consonant in Tamil. I do apologise if you felt this was unnecessary, I wasn't aware of how ISO worked for Tamil and assumed 'Tamizhar' was the appropriate way for the word to be spelt without looking much into it. Guess I learned something new today. Thanks again, feel free to revert back to your version. Do leave a link to this brief discussion in your edit summary so that no one else makes the same mistake I did. Prolix 💬 08:34, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
English usage template change
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@DaxServer It changed when I cleanwiki in American language. You massaged me before I could fix it. Thank you.Chief Minister (Talk) 17:26, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 12 July 2021
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Please add in the lead: Tamil Nadu has argued with Karnataka over the Cauvery River water, which flows from Karnataka south to Tamil Nadu. The debate concerns whether Karnataka has released enough of river water to Tamil Nadu. 72.76.95.136 (talk) 22:10, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
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The following content is removed by an blocked user previously.
Tamil Nadu is the tenth largest Indian state by area and the sixth largest by population. Source: https://censusindia.gov.in/census_and_you/area_and_population.aspx This content should be added in intro paragraph 3 157.49.156.251 (talk) 08:02, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- Question: Can you please provide the diff where it was removed? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:50, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tamil_Nadu&type=revision&diff=1034481013&oldid=1034480437
- Already done This text is still in the article. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:57, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
Meenakshi Amman Temple, Madurai
Please add about famous Meenakshi Amman temple in Tamil Nadu page Prass0311 (talk) 01:31, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Area
The total sum of area of all districts from the data provided on the official Tamil Nadu Government website, https://www.tn.gov.in/district_view is 132,862.2089618 Sq.Km
2027.567542, 2802.642877, 462.2595648, 4950.675923, 3869.978807, 4735.657327, 6289.143008, 6035.958688, 3440.83766, 1800.172276, 3022.331231, 5414.416924, 3846.378763, 1237.06366, 1458.969404, 1729.270352, 3573.394518, 1836.56692, 4847.773181, 4243.135967, 2234.32, 5205, 4086, 2916.13, 3396.57, 3066, 3444.229647, 2161, 4621, 4407, 3842.37, 1792.92, 5186.34, 6191, 2452.50, 2222.094722, 3725.54, 4288 = 132,862.2089618 Sq.Km --M.K.Dan (talk) 09:57, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
Claims of federal state
I've reverted the claim "federal state" that has of late been repeatedly made in the article. I don't think this claim can ever be made unless we have the Constitution of India declare so. Neither the sources nor any of the official pages make this claim but those newspapers only seem to discuss the politics of the so-called "federal-ness". Please do not revert this until the claim is established officially. Thank you. Rasnaboy (talk) 04:23, 2 August 2021 (UTC) Isn't Tamil Nadu, a Federal state having its own policy, power to draft its own legislative amendments and has its own council across all of its departments.?
Namooru (talk) 21:21, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
The official website of the Government of India declares India has a government that is federal in structure. Each state has a Chief Minister as its head, makes its own laws, and collects taxes. Thus making India a federal country. https://www.india.gov.in/topics/governance-administration . India, Pakistan, Russia, Germany, Canada, USA, Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Nigeria, Malaysia, Australia are some of the federal countries. Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, China, Burma, France, Indonesia, New Zealand are some of the unitary states. The word 'State' means either a sovereign state or a federal state of a country. Tamil Nadu is not a sovereign state and it is a federal state of India. --M.K.Dan (talk) 18:36, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
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Madurai Airport isn't an international airport. It's a domestic airport and Tamil Nadu has only 3 International airports. Shiva345 (talk) 19:48, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Madurai Airport isn't an international airport. It's a domestic airport and Tamil Nadu has only 3 International airports. Shiva345 (talk) 19:50, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —twotwofourtysix(My talk page and contributions) 10:01, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
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Chennai Super Kings have won 4 IPL titles.
In Sports category, change "The Super Kings are the second most successful team in the league with three IPL and two CLT20 titles." to "The Super Kings are the second most successful team in the league with four IPL and two CLT20 titles." Emerensia227 (talk) 05:35, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
- Done. I added [1] as a supporting citation. Heartmusic678 (talk) 12:05, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
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Please update GSDP and Per capita figures (2020-21) as per Source [2] (Government of India). GDP should be (17.16 lakh crore) and Per capita (225106). Please note you need in update both in Infobox and main Lead para of the article. Remove old sources and add current sources. Thanks--115.98.91.244 (talk) 05:30, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Done ItcouldbepossibleTalk 07:52, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- @115.98.91.244 I will do each one slowly, because whatever you say, the job is really tough and complicated. I could not complete doing it to Karnataka. But I will surely try. ItcouldbepossibleTalk 07:54, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Shark2433086: Please reverted your last edit. The GDP you've put is completely wrong and MOSPI no longer publishes that data. Please use current data which I have put taken from Government of India Economic Survey of India. Moreover mospi is a dead link. Thanks--115.98.51.4 (talk) 06:09, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- @115.98.51.4 I have reverted his edits. ItcouldbepossibleTalk 06:15, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
MOSPI Does publish that data GDP of Tamil Nadu is 22.44 lakh crore (US$297 billion) Please refer to List of Indian states and union territories by GDP for more information It looks like the data you have published is from 2020-2021 not 2021-2022 Shark2433086 (talk) 14:54, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Shark2433086: MOSPI is a dead link and it no longer publishes that data. Please check carefully before reverting.
- Hi @Itcouldbepossible: I got sources from RBI Gross State Domestic Product (Current Prices) and Per Capita Net State Domestic Product (Current Prices). I think I made a mistake brother figures which I provided are of "Net State Domestic Product (Current Prices)". I think we need to put "Gross State Domestic Product (Current Prices)". Actually government of India classifies state GDPs into two categories one Net State Domestic Product and other Gross State Domestic Product. It looks like I provided you the wrong figures. Its my mistake. Check page no. 37 and 43 this RBI data [3] shows all information. We need to added GROSS STATE DOMESTIC PRODUCT (Current Prices). Thanks--115.98.103.105 (talk) 13:42, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, but where is the 2021-2022 data? Hasn't it been published yet? ItcouldbepossibleTalk 04:40, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Shark2433086: MOSPI is a dead link and it no longer publishes that data. Please check carefully before reverting.
@Itcouldbepossible: Yes 2021-2022 data still hasn't been published. You go ahead and publish those data from the RBI PDF link which I gave you. First update the List of Indian states and union territories by GDP and List of Indian states and union territories by GDP per capita. Because editors are taking data from that list and updating without verifying sources. Ensure you put Gross State Domestic Product (Current Prices).Thanks--115.98.43.82 (talk) 09:55, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, will take some time. ItcouldbepossibleTalk 10:15, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi @Itcouldbepossible: I saw you had a fairly lengthy conversation with an IP editor. Would please update the current GDP and Per capita with this current Source. GDP ₹19.02 trillion and per capita at ₹225106. You need to update both in infobox and in the lead section of the article. Remove old source and add new source. Thanks--Mariam57 (talk) 13:53, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Mariam57 Sorry, cannot do that. This GDP and Per capita updating thing is really confusing. I don't know which data is accurate and which is not. Previously fell into trouble for this. So I cannot update data without knowing how much pure it is. Why don't you update it on your own? If some issues turn up, then you can address them, since you are interested in updating the GDP and per capita of articles. I really don't want to get into this. Really sorry. ItcouldbepossibleTalk 15:59, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- No problem brother I can understand your confusion. Thanks--Mariam57 (talk) 18:04, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
Per Capita
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Per Capita Income is not updated. Please update it to 2021-2022
- Not done. Hello, the citation used in infobox for per capita income only covers until 2020-2021. Please provide a source for 2021-2022. Ptrnext (talk) 22:16, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
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Language
Tamil is the one of oldest language in the world and also first language in world. Sakthíyvël (talk) 16:52, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sakthíyvël - This article is about Tamil Nadu, not the Tamil language - and, although people make claims about Tamil language, it is nowhere near the top at List of languages by first written accounts - Arjayay (talk) 17:16, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
Typo/spelling error on section Governance and Administration
"The Tamil Nadu Police Force is over 140 years old. It is the fifth-largest state police force in India (as of 2015, total police force of TN is 1,11,448) and has the highest proportion of women police personnel in the country (total women police personnel of TN is 13,842 which is about 12.42%) to specifically handled violence against women in Tamil Nadu."
The word handled here needs to be just handle. Nadika N (talk) 19:22, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
HDI figures from 2019 to be updated to 2021
Please update the HDI figures from 2019 to 2021. The updated 2021 figure should be 0.686 not 0.709 per the Global Data Lab source that is currently cited. That would put TN in medium category only, not high category. It would also put TN in 14th rank, not 11th among states/UTs of India. JohnMannon (talk) 15:12, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
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தமிழ்நாட்டின் வரலாறு நான்கு பதிவில் உள்ளது:
1. தமிழர்களின் பழமையான முதல் தெருமாநகரம் மதுரையாகும். 2. மதுரை காலத்தில் பண்டைய சிவன் ஆலயம் ஆகியவை கடந்துபின் பாதிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளன. 3. தமிழ் சங்கம் ஆரம்பம் பெற்றது அதே மதுரையில் ஆனது. 4. அரசர்கள் நடைபெற்ற படைப்புகள் மதுரையின் அரசர் எம்பெருமான் சேல்வா நகரத்தில் நடைபெற்றன. 5. மொழியான தமிழ் நிறைய நூல்கள் போட்டைக் கட்டப்பட்ட இடத்தில் மூத்த திருவள்ளுவர் ஆரம்பித்தார். 6. சங்க காலத்தில் சித்தர்கள் அனைவரும் போட்டைக் கட்டி நடைபெற்றன. 7. பண்டைய தமிழக மக்களுக்குப் புகழ் பெரும் சேராத மூன்றாம் சிலை அமர்வார்கள் சேலம் நகரத்தில் உள்ளன — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prabhu152001 (talk • contribs) 08:58, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
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i want to change an error in the value of tamils Elavarasan8827 (talk) 11:50, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
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- Mentions of the Sri Rangam ranganathaswamy temple and its inscriprtions dating aroud 100 CE considerd as one of the oldest temples of India [1]. The temple is considerd as the Worlds largest functioning temple[2][3] Narayanan Iyengar (talk) 10:12, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ Sircar 1979, p. 64.
- ^ Mittal & Thursby 2005, p. 456.
- ^ https://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/5894/
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There are many informations and images of important temples and historic information missing from the page . Narayanan Iyengar (talk) 10:04, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
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- There are no Mentions or images of the Srirangam Ranganathaswamy temple in this article which is an injustice to the state Tamil Nadu. It is considered as one of the oldest temples of India . The temple is often portrayed as the Worlds largest functioning temple.[1] It is also the biggest temple present in India located in Tamil Nadu.[2] The temple is so Very important to the Tamilians, Vishnavites and explains the glory of Tamil Nadu. The temple is rich in culture and history[3][4], Which requires a part in this article. the temple has 600+ inscriptions and it is also being mentioned in the Sangam literature of Tamil language and is cosiderd 1st amoung the 108 Divya Desams [5]. Kambar is a 12th-century Tamil poet who composed the Kamba Ramayanam, a work inspired from the epic, Valmiki Ramayana. He is believed to have come to the temple to get the approval of his work from scholars. The Jain scholar Tirunarungundam honoured the work and it resulted in Tamil and Sanskrit scholars approving the work.[6] Beyond the ancient textual history, archaeological evidence such as inscriptions refer to this temple, and these stone inscriptions are from late 1st CE to 1st BCE.[7]. The temple won the UNESCO Asia Pacific Award of Merit for cultural heritage conservation in the year 2017. It is the first temple from Tamil Nadu to grab this prestigious honour from the UNESCO.[8][9] Hence, i would like to add 1 image with a caption about the glory of the temple. Narayanan Iyengar (talk) 15:27, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
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There are no Mentions or images of the Srirangam Ranganathaswamy temple in this article which is an injustice to the state Tamil Nadu. It is considered as one of the oldest temples of India . The temple is often portrayed as the Worlds largest functioning temple.[10] It is also the biggest temple present in India located in Tamil Nadu.[11] The temple is so Very important to the Tamilians, Vishnavites and explains the glory of Tamil Nadu. The temple is rich in culture and history[12][4], Which requires a part in this article. the temple has 600+ inscriptions and it is also being mentioned in the Sangam literature of Tamil language and is cosiderd 1st amoung the 108 Divya Desams [13]. Kambar is a 12th-century Tamil poet who composed the Kamba Ramayanam, a work inspired from the epic, Valmiki Ramayana. He is believed to have come to the temple to get the approval of his work from scholars. The Jain scholar Tirunarungundam honoured the work and it resulted in Tamil and Sanskrit scholars approving the work.[6] Beyond the ancient textual history, archaeological evidence such as inscriptions refer to this temple, and these stone inscriptions are from late 1st CE to 1st BCE.[7]. The temple won the UNESCO Asia Pacific Award of Merit for cultural heritage conservation in the year 2017. It is the first temple from Tamil Nadu to grab this prestigious honour from the UNESCO.[14][15] The Srirangam Ranganathaswmy temple is mentioned in Tamil literature of the Sangam era (6th century BCE to the 4th century CE[16]), including the epic Silapadikaram (book 11, lines 35–40):[17].Hence, i would like to add 1 image with a caption about the glory of the temple. Narayanan Iyengar (talk) 03:54, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 09:45, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ https://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/5894/
- ^ https://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/5894/
- ^ https://www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/history-and-culture/Srirangam-temple-rich-with-elaborate-details/article59829979.ece
- ^ a b Goldman 1984, p. 20–22.
- ^ http://mars.gmu.edu/jspui/bitstream/handle/1920/5687/Iyengar_Ramaseshan.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
- ^ a b Kanuga 1993, p. 15.
- ^ a b Sircar 1979, p. 64.
- ^ https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/unesco-award-for-srirangam-temple/article19963814.ece
- ^ https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/srirangam-temple-wins-unesco-award-cultural-heritage-conservation-70926
- ^ https://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/5894/
- ^ https://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/5894/
- ^ https://www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/history-and-culture/Srirangam-temple-rich-with-elaborate-details/article59829979.ece
- ^ http://mars.gmu.edu/jspui/bitstream/handle/1920/5687/Iyengar_Ramaseshan.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
- ^ https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/unesco-award-for-srirangam-temple/article19963814.ece
- ^ https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/srirangam-temple-wins-unesco-award-cultural-heritage-conservation-70926
- ^ Sangam literature, Encyclopaedia Britannica
- ^ Silappadikaram.
Request to edit the article Tamil Nadu
The article Tamil Nadu Does not consist even a single Image of the worlds Largest Functioning Temple Ranganathaswamy Temple, Srirangam.[1] The temple has high culture and must have a place in the article. Even the Silapathikaram and Paripāṭal of the Sangam literature have mentions of the temple.[2])
Example :- Silapadikaram (book 11, lines 35–40):[3]
ஆயிரம் விரித்தெழு தலையுடை அருந்திறற் பாயற் பள்ளிப் பலர்தொழு தேத்த விரிதிரைக் காவிரி வியன்பெருந் துருத்தித் திருவமர் மார்பன் கிடந்த வண்ணமும்
āyiram viritteḻu talaiyuṭai aruntiṟaṟ pāyaṟ paḷḷip palartoḻu tētta viritiraik kāviri viyaṉperu turuttit tiruvamar mārpaṉ kiṭanta vaṇṇamum
On a magnificent cot having a thousand heads spread out, worshipped and praised by many, in an islet surrounded by Kaveri with billowing waves, is the lying posture of the one who has Lakshmi sitting in his chest
Silapadikaram (book 11, lines 35–40)
The temple also finds a mention in the great Sanskrit epic Ramayana [4][5][6][7] The main deity is worshiped even by his ancestors (Ikshvaku vamsam)
Beyond the ancient textual history, archaeological evidence such as inscriptions refer to this temple, and these stone inscriptions are from late 100 BCE to 100 CE.[8] Hence, making it one of the oldest surviving active temple complexes in South India. The inscriptions in the temple belong to the Chola, Pandya, Hoysala and Vijayanagara dynasties who ruled over the region. Apart from the oldest inscriptions there are also inscriptions which range in date between the 8th and 16th centuries.[9]
During the period of invasion and plunder by the Alauddin Khilji's Muslim general Malik Kafur and his Delhi Sultanate forces in 1311, the Arabic texts of the period state that he raided a "golden temple" on river "Kanobari" (Kaveri), destroyed the temple and took the plunder with the golden icon of the deity to Delhi. According to Steven P. Hopkins, this is believed to be the Ranganathaswamy Temple.[10]
The temple was defended by many scholars and around 13,000 Sri Vaishnavas devotees of Srirangam, died in the fierce battle.[11]
The temple has a great significant Architecture created by various kingdoms like Cholas, Pandyas, Pallavas,
The article Tamil Nadu Has no image of this great temple with such Rich culture and heritage. In fact the article has images of the Airavatesvara Temple which is built only around 12th Century CE and way smaller than this temple. It has informations and images of so many temples which range only around 8th century CE to 12 century CE.
Therefore considering these important points, I would like to add images and few important points of this temple in to the article Tamil Nadu under the Sub-Heading History. Narayanan Iyengar (talk) 11:44, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ https://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/5894/
- ^ Sangam literature, Encyclopaedia Britannica
- ^ Silappadikaram.
- ^ Valmiki Ramayana, Ayodhya kanda, sarga 6, sloka 1, 2 and 3
- ^ https://www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/history-and-culture/Srirangam-temple-rich-with-elaborate-details/article59829979.ece
- ^ Goldman 1984, p. 20–22.
- ^ https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/news/india/was-ram-born-in-ayodhya/articleshow/77380259.cms
- ^ Sircar 1979, p. 64.
- ^ Ayyar 1991, p. 462.
- ^ Hopkins 2002, pp. 68–69.
- ^ Ramaswamy 2007, pp. 301–302.
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Removal request
Remove this unwanted ethnonym which is added recently without any source. This information already there . Also it mentions state as country which is misleading Mr anonymousMr (talk) 06:37, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
Continuous vandalism of articles on Indian states
The user named AleksiB_1945 seen vandalised all the Indian states Wikimedia articles with misleading information https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:AleksiB_1945&action=view Mr anonymousMr (talk) 06:43, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
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Change "Thiruvilliputhur" to "Srivilliputhur", which is the commonly used name for the town. thanaks. Kalki speaks (talk) 23:02, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
- Done ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 00:36, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
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"Ranganathaswamy Temple, Srirangam" is the biggest temple in India, located in Tamil Nadu and has more than 800 inscriptions in Different languages (more in Tamil). The temple got the UNESCO Asia Pacific Heritage Award in year 2017. It was also nominated as a UNESCO World Heritage Site, and is in UNESCO's tentative list. Such a great temple finds no image in the article of Tamil Nadu. Please do add an image of this great temple. There are images of 10th century CE temples too but this temple is older (even mentioned in Sangam Literature, Example Silapadikaram (book 11, lines 35–40). The Temple is the biggest and one of the most visited sites all over India. Sastri676 (talk) 10:50, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
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Change one image of Brihadisvara Temple to Ranganathaswamy Temple, Srirangam under the section Chola empire. Reason:- There are 3 Images of Brihadisvara Temple and no Image for the Ranganathaswamy Temple, Srirangam, I request to add an image of the Marvellous temple. Ranganathaswamy Temple, Srirangam finds a Mention in The Sangam Literature, Cilappatikaram, Naalayira Divya Prabandham etc... and is the Worlds Largest functioning Temple, It finds a place in Unesco Tentative list.[1] Sastri676 (talk) 09:46, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Sastri676 Not done
The section talks about The Great Living Chola Temples, a UNESCO World Heritage Site which include Brihadisvara Temple at Thanjavur,
Brihadisvara Temple at Gangaikonda Cholapuram and Airavatesvara Temple
While the Ranganathaswamy Temple, Srirangam, is a revered Hindu shrine and an architectural marvel in its own right, it is not included as part of the Great Living Chola Temples UNESCO World Heritage Site. This designation is specifically reserved for the three aforementioned temples
Happy editing Leoneix (talk) 06:28, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Image of Srirangam Temple
"Ranganathaswamy Temple, Srirangam" is the biggest temple in India, located in Tamil Nadu and has more than 800 inscriptions in Different languages (more in Tamil). The temple got the UNESCO Asia Pacific Heritage Award in year 2017. It was also nominated as a UNESCO World Heritage Site, and is in UNESCO's tentative list. Such a great temple finds no image in the article of Tamil Nadu. Please do add an image of this great temple. There are images of 10th century CE temples too but this temple is older (even mentioned in Sangam Literature, Example Silapadikaram (book 11, lines 35–40)), bigger and one of the most visited sites all over India. Sastri676 (talk) 03:59, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- Permanent link Implemented Leoneix (talk) 07:36, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
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Change the Image of Vetuvan koil to Image of Parthasarathy Perumal Temple. Vettuvan Koil is just 8th Century CE but Sri Parthasarathi Perumal Temple, Chennai dates way earlier to 5th Century CE or even older. The Structure finds a mention even in the Brahmanda Puranam, Naalayira Divya Prabandham and many more books. The temple also has inscriptions about the Pallava king, Nandivarman who lived between (718 CE – 796 CE).[2] One of the earliest Alvars Pey Alvar (who lived between 5th and 6th Century)[3] has mentioned this temple, which makes the temple The Oldest structure in Chennai. This Temple has faced several floods, cyclones, Tsunami (Just 400 Metres from the Beach). Several Singers and Philosophers were devoted to this God, Example Ramanujar, Vedanta Desikar, Muthuswamy Dheekshithar Swami Vivekanada, Bharathiyar and many more. This temple deserves a place in the Article Tamil Nadu instead of Vettuvan Koil. Sastri676 (talk) 11:25, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- Note: See request below Spintendo 23:57, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ https://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/5894/
- ^ Lalithasai (18 December 2011). "Religious facets of Thirumayilai, Thiruvallikeni". The Hindu. Retrieved 3 April 2012.
- ^ Mukherjee (1999). A Dictionary of Indian Literatures: Beginnings-1850 Volume 1 of A Dictionary of Indian Literature, A Dictionary of Indian Literature. Orient Blackswan. p. 15. ISBN 9788125014539.