Talk:Sarah Bryant (Virtua Fighter)

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Date	Process	Result
October 5, 2015	Articles for deletion	Kept
April 18, 2023	Articles for deletion	Merged
May 6, 2023	Articles for deletion	Kept
May 25, 2023	Good article nominee	Listed
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on June 14, 2023. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that as an Easter egg, the color of Sarah Bryant's earring changes depending on the fighting stage in which the player is engaged?
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Requested move May 3, 2023

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus is this page is not the primary topic for the name "Sarah Bryant" and should not be moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) SkyWarrior 13:55, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Given the views before Sarah Bryant was redirected due to notability. I think she should be the primary. GlatorNator (ᴛ) 12:04, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&agent=user&source=wikilinks&range=latest-90&sort=views&direction=1&view=list&target=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah%20Bryant indicates that is the most popular topic, but I'm not really sure this meets the WP:PTOPIC standard at fifty-odd views per day total. WikiNav doesn't even render at this low a traffic. --Joy (talk) 11:03, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. No primary topic per long-term significance. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:44, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

GA Review

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Reviewer: Cukie Gherkin (talk · contribs) 00:48, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a. (reference section):

b. (citations to reliable sources):

c. (OR):

d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a. (major aspects):

b. (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

Infobox

Voice talent should be mentioned in the article in some way if possible
Her fighting style is not mentioned in the article, and her location is only mentioned in the lead and infobox
1. Fixed

Lead

Should mention Yu Suzuki's role as the creator
1. Fixed

Conception and design

It says Suzuki wouldn't comment on whether she's based on a real person; is the article saying he wouldn't comment on whether she's based on a real human being? It sounds like the article is referring to Sarah Conner as a real person.
1. Fixed
Consider paraphrasing the quotes a bit more (mainly the Suzuki quote)
1. Fixed
"While she has had a wide variety of secondary outfits as the series progressed, her main design has been used through the series and in promotional material, only seeing minimal change through the years." - Unsourced
1. Fixed

In other media

I assume the "tongue-in-cheek" mention comes from the source?
1. Fixed to be clearer that that comes from the source.

Reception

I feel like "Official Sega Saturn Magazine described her as "one of the most brilliant creations in the world of video games", praising her as a "brainwashed maniac" but further emphasizing their like of her breast size, comparing them to Lara Croft's and describing Sarah's as "larger and better defined"." could be improved. For example: "Official Sega Saturn Magazine described her as "one of the most brilliant creations in the world of video games", praising the brainwashing plot and her breast size." I don't think it's really important that they're bigger than Lara's, y'know? Just means that he likes bigger tiddy.
1. Yeah I think I was leaning too heavily into the Croft comparison due to the time it was posted. Should be a lot better now.
"true original; until Max Headroom becomes a polygon fighter, she'll be the oldest popular character of her type." Not sure what this means!
1. Dug up the issue and paraphrased it better to make the comparison clearer between her and later characters.

Image

Image looks a bit poopy
Fair use rationale for the infobox image is invalid
1. Fixed and fixed.

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 19:29, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that as an easter egg the character Sarah Bryant would have her earring color change depending on the fighting stage the player was currently engaged in? Source: https://archive.org/details/NEXT_Generation_46/page/n85/
- ALT1: ... that a professor cites the character Sarah Bryant as being "the first Western woman in a Japanese fighting game" and that she formed the template for more sexualized figues? Source: Hutchinson, Rachael (December 2020). Japanese Culture Through Video Games. Routledge, Taylor & Francis Group. pp. 89–90. ISBN 9780367728151.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2023 Speaker of the United States House of Representatives election

Improved to Good Article status by Kung Fu Man (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 00:58, 31 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sarah Bryant (Virtua Fighter); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

No copyvio, proper length, promoted to GA exactly 7 days before nomination, QPQ fulfilled, ALT1 preferred for being more interesting, offline source verified. 〜 Festucalex • talk 18:35, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]