Talk:Roblox/Archive 4
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Semi-protected edit request on 22 April 2017
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Hello I work at ROBLOX I would like the article to be unprotected so that the board can fix the article out of false infomation including the fake logo in the History and development section that shows ROBLOX being in beta when we did not release ROBLOX until Feburary 26th 2006 JimROBLOX (talk) 11:09, 22 April 2017 (UTC):
- @JimROBLOX: Hi Jim, as you have a conflict of interest, you shouldn't be editing the page, though we can do the edits for you. Please state in a "change x to y" manner what you desire to be changed using the {{edit request}} template, similarly to what you did here (only difference is different template). If you've got any questions, feel free to ask them by replying here or pinging me with {{ping|Anarchyte}}. Anarchyte (work | talk) 12:43, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2017
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Greetings, I have found something while in the virtual catalog of ROBLOX. They have made hats sponsered by UNICEF to help the Philippines in a typhoon. They promised to donate 65 cents if they buy a "Philippines Carabao Cap" and a "Philippines Baseball Cap" for 10 cents, as seen on http://www.roblox.com/catalog/135474142/Philippines-Baseball-Cap and http://www.roblox.com/catalog/135518031/Philippines-Carabao-Cap . Please include this because this was one of the charitable actions they done during a natural disaster. Weekly Manner Hendo (talk) 22:04, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
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Fuck me
Could we possibly delete this page, as it is about a terrible game. EpicWolf28 (talk) 18:23, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- No. Just because you don't like a game does not make it a reason for deletion. NFLisAwesome (ZappaOMati) 18:49, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 23 May 2017
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Requesting editorial permission for the purpose of making straight-forward edits concerning format and grammar to make it more universal and easier for mobile users. No vandalism will be committed, and I will make sure to abide by guidelines SkepticSalmon (talk) 14:53, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
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Possible addition of "controversy" section?
Some fairly recent news articles have brought up controversy of the game regarding it being used as a child grooming platform and whatnot due to many incidents. Quite a few of them are local to the U.K. but it may suffice for a general description. This may be irrelevant or preposterous, but I have a few sources which may be credible.
-Xetotrius 21:04, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
References
- ^ Stroud, Carl. "Horrified dad found sick messages from paedo predator in his eight year old son's ROBLOX IPad game". TheSun.co.uk. Retrieved 29 May 2017.
- ^ Gordon, Amie. "Girl, six, was sent a message on mobile gaming app Roblox asking her to call a stranger 'daddy' as mothers warn perverts are using the chat feature to lure children to their HOMES". DailyMail.co.uk. Retrieved 29 May 2017.
Semi-protected edit request on 28 June 2017
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Hello,
I would like to request to add a caption underneath the ROBLOX logo inside the Infobox stating: "ROBLOX's logo as of January 10th, 2017.[1]"
References
- ^ Baszucki, David (10 January 2017). "Introducing Our Next-Generation Logo". ROBLOX Corporation. Retrieved 28 June 2017.
Thanks, Wikipaedia Internetica (talk) 12:25, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
- Done jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) 14:29, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
Mobile Update
I don't want to start an edit war on this, but can I please request that @Mathew James Hall see my reasons for reverting his edits and to add a reference for his addition? Thank you! jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) 22:40, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
- Okay, so I have readded this information for the user, however not the other information as Wikipedia is not an instruction manual. This is even explained at the top of this Talk Page. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) 01:16, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 29 June 2017
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Hello, again! In this edit request I propose the following changes:
- Changing the caption on the 4.0 package image from "A fourth generation (4.0) Roblox character, a common typical package." to "A fourth generation (4.0) Roblox character, a common package." (repeating words)
- In the "Development" section, it states: "On June 22, 2017 Roblox Introduced Portrait Mode & Dynamic Thumbstick for only Mobile devices. For now the only popular games to use it are Natural Disaster Survival and MeepCity but it would be available for other games soon.". I propose adding links to the games "Natural Disaster Survival" and "MeepCity". Here are their links: Link to MeepCity, Link to Natrual Disaster Survival.
- Making the "Development" section a list after the introduction sentence.
- Adding an external link section that links to ROBLOX's corporate website and to main Website (corp.roblox.com, roblox.com)
Thanks, Wikipaedia Internetica (talk) 12:42, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
- Not done User has been blocked. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) 19:17, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
- Not blocked anymore. Good job, though. Wikipaedia Internetica (talk) 23:44, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 30 June 2017
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Mopey66789 (talk) 23:03, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
- Not done: You did not state what you want changed. Please state what you want changed using the form "Change X into Y," before reopening your request. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) 23:08, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 5 July 2017
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there are a couple things wrong i am a roblox player so i would like to correct them TheWankTank (talk) 08:37, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
- @TheWankTank: Hi, could you please be more specific with what you want fixed? Anarchyte (work | talk) 08:43, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
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Lua link
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change ((Lua|Lua 5.1)) to ((Lua (programming language)|Lua 5.1))
- Done jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 15:38, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
Add this update to development.
This has been deleted twice by a new user and must not be taken down the description of it: On June 22, 2017 Roblox Introduced Portrait Mode & Dynamic Thumbstick for only Mobile devices. For now the only popular games to use it are Natural Disaster Survival and MeepCity but it would be available for other games soon.[1] Mathew James Hall (talk) 18:26, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Introducing Portrait Mode & Dynamic Thumbstick". Roblox Blog. Retrieved 29 June 2017.
- @Mathew James Hall: The user was in their right to remove the material. It's written like an advertisement, thus failing WP:PROMO. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 18:30, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
@Jd02022092: can I change it so it isn't written like a advertisement? Mathew James Hall (talk) 18:38, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
- Only if there's a WP:RS to back the claim. There are various tools here on Wiki you can use to find sources. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 18:44, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
Re Third opinion request: At this point I there's not been enough discussion to even identify what the actual dispute might be, much less thorough discussion of that dispute as required by 3O (and all other moderated content dispute resolution processes here). I've removed (i.e. declined) the 3O request for that reason. It can be refiled or some other DR process used if discussion begins and, once thoroughly discussed, comes to a standstill. Just a note in passing about general principles: A self published source such as a company's website can be a RS for things about the company, such as the existence of a feature such as this. But whether it should be included in an article means that the information cannot be given undue weight, "Neutrality requires that each article or other page in the mainspace fairly represent all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources, in proportion to the prominence of each viewpoint in the published, reliable sources". That generally requires some RS outside the company to illustrate that the information is significant beyond its mere existence. To merely presume from the nature of the feature that it is significant is a form of prohibited original research, you really need some third-party sources talking about it. (And before someone asks, does that mean that some stuff that's already in the article shouldn't be there? I can't say that I've really looked, but that's entirely possible in this kind of article. But the remedy to that situation is to remove the improper stuff, not just to add more.) Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 17:12, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 25 July 2017
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AatmodheeG (talk) 16:50, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
- Not done — No specific edit requested, no edit history to indicate what might be desired. — TransporterMan (TALK) 16:59, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
Will we be adding Roblox myths and creepypastas?
Hi guys I was just asking if anyone knows if Wikepidia already has a Roblox creepypastas and myths that has been spread around Roblox such as Guest 666,John Doe and Jane Doe and the COmunity???If there is not such a discussion should I add it to Wikepidia??? Kazok1000 (talk) 11:13, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
- The only way we can include them in this article is if they're reliably sourced. As in, covered by third-party websites. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 17:35, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, fan content like that isn't inherently notable - it needs to be covered in reliable, third-party sources for us to write about it. You can find a list of reliable sources that often write about video games at WP:VG/RS.--IDVtalk 17:49, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
- The short version is no, "creepypastas" are not generally the the type of thing an encyclopedia would cover, no. Please do not add this to the article.Sergecross73 msg me 18:17, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 5 September 2017
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5.148.44.125 (talk) 12:13, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
- Not done: as you have not requested a change.
Please request your change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 12:40, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 20 September 2017
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30 million active users should be at 56 million users now. Robman2016 (talk) 19:49, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
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Question Returning: Where did half the content go?
I come back and I see half of everything is gone. I mean, I guess the banners are gone, but a ton of content is gone now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Epicandrew1220 (talk • contribs) 14:33, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- We at WP:VG have noticed a lot of unsourced additions, WP:FANCRUFT and WP:GAMECRUFT added throughout this page's history. See WP:NOTMANUAL and WP:NOTCHANGELOG for more details. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 14:37, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Well, could we at least include the Developer Exchange in the page? A lot of these media outlets talk about the monetary gain of the developers and there are a couple articles on it. It's also an important and big part of the game. Epicandrew1220 (talk) 15:21, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
- Can you provide a specific link to a source that says this? jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 18:09, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
- https://www.engadget.com/2017/07/22/roblox-30-million-pay-out-developers-2017-how/ is one article. http://www.businessinsider.com/roblox-vp-of-developer-relations-grace-francisco-2017-5 is another. Finally this article http://www.businessinsider.com/roblox-how-teenage-developers-are-making-millions-2017-7 . I believe that it's pretty important. Epicandrew1220 (talk) 15:19, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
- Can you provide a specific link to a source that says this? jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 18:09, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Well, could we at least include the Developer Exchange in the page? A lot of these media outlets talk about the monetary gain of the developers and there are a couple articles on it. It's also an important and big part of the game. Epicandrew1220 (talk) 15:21, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
Is it necessary to list very popular games on Roblox on this article?
Some games have gone so large that they're used to advertise Roblox and even have their own merchandise in the Roblox toy line. I dunno about proper sources, but I did see a Kotaku article on Pokemon Brick Bronze.72.204.22.52 (talk) 15:01, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 25 October 2017
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Instead of using "parts", use bricks, it's more accurate. Farahabdi (talk) 01:34, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
Wrong avatar?
In the Gameplay section of this article it says that the image of the roblox character is a second generation (2.0) character but it is a fourth generation (4.0) character. Should we either replace the image or the text? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evanultra01 (talk • contribs) 00:43, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
- Done @VinMannie: Please refer to this link for more info: [1] jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk • contribs) 00:49, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 17 November 2017
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Please change ...similar to those of lego bricks to ...similar to those of LEGO bricks because of proper formatting. MyNameIsPhip (talk) 01:19, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
- Not done: MOS:ALLCAPS says to avoid this format. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk • contribs) 01:33, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 7 December 2017
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it missed a cucial detail of how marc lescarbot co created the code and idea of the roblox site, i would like to put him in the article Succpenor (talk) 23:19, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk • contribs) 23:20, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
I believe this settles some things...
Specifically the last section:
"'Roblox' is a technology platform that gives developers the opportunity to make games. It is not a game itself. Please don’t refer to it as one." Can we please finally stop referring to it as an MMO or "sandbox game?"
Give it a read: https://devforum.roblox.com/t/official-roblox-brand-guidelines/62894 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rocky28447 (talk • contribs) 04:34, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
- This is what a sandbox game is defined as. Roblox seems to fit this description. This is what an MMO is. I get where they're trying to get at with their branding, but they are a platform that hosts sandboxes and it still is an MMO. Epicandrew1220 (talk) 13:52, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
- No action Roblox, by definition, is an MMO game, as joining games with others is a feature of the platform. Upsidedown Keyboard (talk) 13:57, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
Release date
Regarding this edit: I appreciate the effort, but I don't think the April 6, 2006 release date is correct. The added source is a 10-year anniversary message by the founder that was posted on April 6, 2016, but it doesn't say that Roblox was released on April 6, 2006, nor does it say that Roblox had been released 10 years ago that day. The source says "ROBLOX is celebrating its 10th anniversary this year
," and it mentions several times that the website was launched in 2006, but it doesn't give an exact date. According to the Wayback Machine, the website was already online as of April 2, 2006. And the founder posted a message on the website's message boards on March 19, 2006, in which he mentioned "we've just opened up the site." Someone who claimed to be working for Roblox stated that the website launched on February 26, 2006, and there are player accounts for the website that date back to February 27, although I was unable to find a source which confirms that it launched that month. There are currently three sources used in this article for the release date, and none of them list an exact date other than 2006, so I think we should just stick with that unless someone can find a source for the exact release date. AJFU (talk) 21:41, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Release Date #2
- First, the website being online at a certain date does not mean it was fully released. They had a beta site and pre-roblox brand content for a couple years prior to 2006. Also, we don't know how reliable that "admin" is, or if he really is an admin. But yes, for now, let's keep the date at 2006. Zoom (talk page) 23:20, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
- With some research, I found this: Roblox Company Information. Says that the founding date of Roblox is September 1st 2006. Should we put this as the release date? Zoom (talk page) 15:50, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
- This will probably work. September 1, 2006 is also the release date given to an editor who had contacted Roblox years ago, so the date is probably correct. I've found several sources from June 2011 which all support the release date as being September 2006:
- Business Wire (
With over 5.7 million unique visitors and 650 million page views per month and growing, ROBLOX has experienced phenomenal success and increasing monthly revenues since its inception in September 2006.
) - GamesIndustry.biz (
First launched in September 2006, Roblox attracts children aged seven to 16, with a highly customisable game world, avatars and virtual items.
) - TechCrunch (
Started in September 2006, the company now claims over 5.7 million unique visitors and 650 million page views per month.
) - Venture Beat (
The company’s site draws more than 650 million page views a month and it has been growing steadily since its launch in September 2006.
) -- AJFU (talk) 21:09, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
- Business Wire (
Controversies?
There are a TON of controversies around Roblox like allowing games that become popular (such as high-school-life) that encourage Online-Dating (which is not aloud on Roblox per the terms and concisions.). Or removing the forums completely from the site. It also has a HUGE reputation of never EVER lessoning to its fans and their wants/needs. -aman0226 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aman0226 (talk • contribs) 18:51, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- Would you like to provide some references to back this claim? Zoom (talk page) 20:03, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 10 March 2018
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I would like to change some things about the roblox wikepedia page because of its new update, its out of date. Thanks! ShellyNut (talk) 16:54, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 11 March 2018
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Could you add File:ROBLOX 2004.svg from Wikipedia commons to the development section 72.73.117.105 (talk) 23:33, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
- Not done for now: What benefit to the reader do you feel there is in including a historical logo that is nearly identical to the current one but for an inherent indication that it was always intended to be temporary? Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 00:18, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 1 April 2018
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Hellothereimsmart33333 (talk) 08:07, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
(chapter about robux) Robux was the replacement of "tix". Tix was a free version of money (online currency) on ROBLOX.
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Relatively large changes
I've felt like the brief summary handled under this revision '(cur | prev) 18:45, 24 April 2018 Piklies (talk | contribs) . . (20,988 bytes) (+1,121) . . (Changed 'Gameplay' to 'Overview' to reflect the status of Roblox being a game platform. Removed 'Minecraft' as it's not relevant to the subject. Updated image of Roblox Studio example to a more recent example. Primary source was needed for the first paragraph of 'Roblox Studio' due to no other reliable source on stating what programming language Roblox Studio utilizes. Primary sources necessary for listing of what Roblox Studio supports as no other sources mentioning features of studio.) (undo)' isn't enough to explain the changes as there's a limited character count.
So the overall goal of the changes mainly focused upon providing information for 'Roblox Studio' - which is heavily important as it's the main use of the site aside from playing games.
The small removal of 'Minecraft' on the overview is mainly because making the comparison seems awkward in a encyclopedia as the first thing the user reads.
Updated images just make it more accurate to modern-day Roblox.
The use of primary sources was absolutely necessary, as there isn't really any other place that states "ROBLOX NEW DYNAMIC LIGHTING FEATURE, ROBLOX NOW ALLOWS IMPORTATION OF MESHES!" kind of thing. So I focused on going to the best possible sources - documentation(Roblox wiki, which is handled by both Roblox Staff and other users on the site.), and the blog(which more or less I was using to state "This exists on Roblox now", considering it's an official announcement.
Piklies (talk) 18:53, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- The comparison to Minecraft has always been made, so I don't see the problem. Roblox Studio is a major part of the game, but focusing on every recent Studio feature is a bit overwelming for the reader at times. All I can really say for now. Zoom (talk page) 19:55, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
A easier example would be putting "Sometimes compared to Roblox' on the Minecraft wikipedia page. It's out of place when the focus should be "What is X".
For Studio I agree that listing multiple features is a bit overwhelming so I just kept it to a similar minimum to the Unity wikipedia page for features that game devs would care about.
I'll try to do some more changes later on - mainly organization. The page is kind of weird where Roblox isn't exactly advertised as a game(So it'd be like advertising Unity/RPG Maker as a game on it's own), but at the same time it isn't fully a game engine(so it's this mixup of a game engine, a social media website, and a website/app to play games on.). In some ways it would even make sense to separate Roblox/Roblox Studio into it's own article, but that would be a whole other issue.
Piklies (talk) 20:40, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- I find that hard to do. Minecraft really took off prior to Roblox, and that's why the two are compared in popularity and visually. I would say that Roblox is a game platform. In making Roblox Studio its own article, that's ridiculous. It likely wouldn't pass GNG and would be difficult to come up with sources explaining all of the information. Zoom (talk page) 22:07, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
I guess years ago there's comparisons to be made. Definitely similarities on how fast they grew (e.g had a fairly small-to average following to begin with, exploded in their later years upon the release of some major changes(with Minecraft survival mode and Roblox expanding into multiple platforms outside of PC). But I think they've both branched out far enough to not be a side-by-side comparison, both visually on newer games on the site and purpose.
Piklies (talk) 22:19, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2018
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i would like to edit this page because i feel it is not true thank you 124.158.20.250 (talk) 04:51, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2018
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i would like to request this i feel it is not correct Abc123987654 (talk) 04:56, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
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Platform v. Game
Should we refer to roblox as a platform or a game. They advertise as a platform. It Is a platform for games. SO i propose we change the wordage to platform instead of game Nithin Danday! (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:26, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
- The wording is already in favor of Roblox being a platform, not a game, so this isn't an issue. Zoom (talk page) 19:30, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
I think it's the categories that need fixes, given if we're classifying it as a platform it seems a bit awkward to have it under '2006 games'. Piklies (talk) 23:46, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 23 May 2018
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I don't necessarily want to change any text, however, I just want to edit the text so that there is at least a paragraph on ROBLOX's currency, otherwise known as "Robux". I have been playing ROBLOX for about three years now, and have bought Robux myself. I know a lot about this subject, and would just like to share my knowledge. Thank you. :O) Alxssa (talk) 23:42, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 9 June 2018
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In 2004, Roblox was also called DynaBlox 90.195.165.119 (talk) 14:13, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2018
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add a player on roblox called alan234561 71.32.152.136 (talk) 14:55, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
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- Not done Blank request.--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 00:27, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
Criticism section
Recently, me and a couple of other editors engaged in an edit war and I was warned by two admins that this could lead to a block if I continue, but they also left advice on how to resolve an edit dispute, which is by discussing it on the talk page.
My edit basically added a criticism section, which spoke about how some parents have claimed that their kids have had negative experiences before on Roblox, and also stated that there have been beliefs that Roblox mods are automated bots. If you want to see the edit, then look in the page history.
Type Support if you support my edit, Oppose if you oppose my edit, and Neutral if you are neutral about it.
UltraChas (talk) 14:28, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
- Support. UltraChas (talk) 14:29, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
- This isn't a vote. Your edit cannot stand. It violates WP:V, WP:OR, and possibly WP:NPOV. The youtube source simply is not reliable (See WP:RS) and cannot stand. The news paper article is good, but it doesn't support the statements you're making. -- ferret (talk) 15:09, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
- One way or another, we're going to need a Criticism section, or at the very least we're going to need to improve the article such that it doesn't only talk about basic mechanics and history of the game and all the awards it's won -- way too promotional. This from the BBC -- a more than adequately reliable source on technology matters -- is a mention of just one of the incidents that had extremely widespread coverage. MPS1992 (talk) 15:36, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Ferret: This IS actually a vote and my edit CAN stand, provided that enough support is expressed for it. So far, we have one support (from me), one oppose (from you), and one neutral (from MPS1992). We should wait for more opinions before making a final decision. UltraChas (talk) 15:52, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hi UltraChas, another odd thing about Wikipedia is that almost nothing -- supposedly -- is ever a vote, WP:NOTAVOTE is the shortcut for that.
- @Ferret: This IS actually a vote and my edit CAN stand, provided that enough support is expressed for it. So far, we have one support (from me), one oppose (from you), and one neutral (from MPS1992). We should wait for more opinions before making a final decision. UltraChas (talk) 15:52, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
- One way or another, we're going to need a Criticism section, or at the very least we're going to need to improve the article such that it doesn't only talk about basic mechanics and history of the game and all the awards it's won -- way too promotional. This from the BBC -- a more than adequately reliable source on technology matters -- is a mention of just one of the incidents that had extremely widespread coverage. MPS1992 (talk) 15:36, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
- Criticism of Roblox is most definitely going to find its way into the article one way or another -- thank you for raising the issue -- but I still recommend you avoid editing the article itself. MPS1992 (talk) 16:01, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
- @UltraChas Would like to note - your changes is really not what should be in the content of a Wikipedia page.
- Take "Despite Roblox being aimed at all audiences including young ones" - 'Despite' - and 'including' is completely unnecessary. The whole sentence isn't even needed. Go straight to the point. 'Negative experiences' isn't enough nor is it cited anywhere. Explain what the 'negative experience' is at the very least.
- Opinion - The general direction could possibly go somewhere like Unity's or Steam's page given the similarities. Given Roblox is a game engine and platform, it should be treated similarly to Steam/Unity's pages including criticism, history, and details on what the purpose is.
- As for the voting, this isn't a forum - this should be following Wikipedia's guidelines and standards and aiming towards giving reliable and accurate information and avoiding bias. If I had to vote, I'd be opposing what your suggesting.
- As ferret says, you’re not going to find a consensus to approve ignoring a number of Wikipedia’s core principles. The content, as is, is unacceptable, and no knowledgeable editor is going to support it. Conceptually, adding some criticisms to a Reception section is fine. But it needs to be written better, and you need to use reliable sources - until you understand what reliable means in the Wikipedia sense, I recommend using WP:VG/S as a guide for what type of sources to use and not use. But if you add another poorly sourced version without a WP:CONSENSUS supporting it, you’re receiving a short block from editing. Sergecross73 msg me 16:25, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
Even More Information On The Site
Didn't feel like putting this on the article, But roblox has its own wiki incase you want to learn even more about it. It has quite a bit more than this page. If You would like to know more there is a fandom version titled Roblox Wiki
~Zencord
- The fandom wikia is really biased without a lot of sources. It's not really the best place to take information from. The official Roblox wiki is alright, but that's more targeted towards the game engine and documentation on how to use it rather than general information about Roblox.
Piklies (talk) 19:27, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
Should we treat the Roblox article differently?
I've noticed that it's difficult to agree upon edits on the Roblox article reading on the discussion of adding the criticism article. Though more specifically because of other reasons(citations/poor writing) but it came up to mind that were treating the Roblox wikipedia page as a video game right now.
Roblox is a game platform(so similar to flash game websites or Steam) that hosts games created through it's game engine Roblox Studio. Games are on the site function as standalone games similar to flash game sites but require Roblox's player(similar to Flash) to play. Roblox provides the tools to program and develop the game(Roblox Studio) and hosts the games through their servers.
My suggestion is to treat it similar to Steam's article where it's treated as a digital distribution software instead of treating it as a video game page.
Steam - "Steam is a digital distribution platform for video games developed by Valve Corporation that offers digital rights management (DRM), matchmaking servers, video streaming, and social networking services. Steam provides the user with installation and automatic updating of games, and community features such as friends lists and groups, cloud saving, and in-game voice and chat functionality. "
Current Roblox Wikipedia Page - "Roblox is a massively multiplayer online game creation platform that allows users to design their own games and play a wide variety of different types of games created by other users through Roblox Studio. Roblox hosts social network games constructed of Lego-like virtual blocks." Piklies (talk) 21:08, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
- To be clear, I have no opposition to a well sourced criticism section. Though it should be worded more as a reception section and handling both the positive and negative. Standalone criticism sections are generally frowned on. (The issue in the above section isn't the idea of covering negative reception, but that this particular edit did not accomplish that in line with policies). -- ferret (talk) 20:56, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
- Fair enough.
- Any thoughts on the idea for changing the Roblox wiki page from a video game article to a digital distribution software? Piklies (talk) 21:08, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
- Conceptually? The article already opens that its a platform, not a video game. It should definitely be handled that way. If Steam provides a good example to follow, definitely. It's a very well maintain and comprehensive article. -- ferret (talk) 21:10, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
- Any thoughts on the idea for changing the Roblox wiki page from a video game article to a digital distribution software? Piklies (talk) 21:08, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
Should "Games" have its own section under Overview?
Right now, it is mentioned and described under "Roblox Studio", which only has about three sentences relating to Studio. What I am suggesting is a split between the two which could better describe both Roblox's games as well as Studio, rather than being a whole and only kind of covering both. -Ninjaboysc
- It's possible but what exactly could you put in there? Listing games would come off as advertisements for them. Describing what types of games there are would be like describing the types of games on Steam. There isn't much to work with to add a section specifically for games.
- Piklies (talk) 19:35, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Erik Cassel
All mention of the late Roblox co-founder Erik Cassel has been removed. Could someone get on this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zer0thenumber (talk • contribs) 21:49, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Roblox's Community
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There is an issue with online predating that needs to be addressed on this page. I normally play Team Fortress 2 now because of the crappy community that ruins it's experience, and the Roblox Corporation is too busy counting their money and thinking up of new greedy ideas than to fix them. I know I'm right. 82.17.156.72 (talk) 13:31, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. -- ferret (talk) 15:02, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 15 September 2018
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THe founders of roblox were David Baszucki and Eric Castel not just David Rynque1 (talk) 07:11, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
- Done I checked the reference, and Eric Cassel is listed there, so I added it. RudolfRed (talk) 21:38, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Social Media + New Heading about ROBLOX
There should be something with a legacy called "Memes" like the ROBLOX Oof because it was famous and it gave ROBLOX wide world attention.
Maybe something else about controversies such as ROBLOX legacys? Let me know if you want to talk.
GDanthonyYT (talk) 15:55, 11 October 2018 (UTC)GDanthonyYT
- Did these memes receive significant coverage in reliable sources? MPS1992 (talk) 18:16, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
- As far as I'm concerned there aren't any reliable sources on 'Roblox Memes'. As for the oof point, I don't think you could make that claim. As for controversies surrounding Roblox, there aren't sources aside from ridiculously biased ones like the unofficial Roblox wikia.Piklies (talk) 08:59, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comment - Wikia, whether it's biased or not, can not be used as a source because it is an example of User generated content. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ ✨ 06:05, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
Reviewing Outdated Information
There is certain information throughout the article that seems to be outdated and should be considered for review. Some information that is particularly outdated is right at the beginning of the article:
"The platform hosts social network games constructed of Lego-like virtual blocks."
The source for this is over 6 years old and frankly doesn't seem to get much information correct (even for the time it was written, with careless errors such as misspelling the CEO's name). The platform has evolved drastically since then and the Roblox from 2012 would be near unrecognizable from the Roblox that exists today with the addition of imported meshes, native CSG, smooth terrain, and articulated characters (and soon a brand new lighting engine of which the beginning stages are being rolled out).
Therefore, it would be a good idea to review potentially outdated information throughout the article that does not reflect the current state of the Roblox platform.
Rocky28447 (talk) 08:22, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
- I agree - it's not fully fitting to what Roblox is currently. However, you'd likely have to fill it in with something else that could be backed up because right now we're relying on a few older sources that are relatively dated compared to modern day Roblox. Piklies (talk) 22:23, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Please link to a page on www.roblox.com! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:280:4900:45d7:49fa:9b79:b994:3a04 (talk) 17:22, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
- @2601:280:4900:45d7:49fa:9b79:b994:3a04: The external link to the offical Roblox site can be found at the bottom of the article. JACKINTHEBOX • TALK 17:28, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 21 November 2018
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Remove goatse 86.91.186.198 (talk) 16:18, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- Done -- ferret (talk) 16:27, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
Changing 'Massively multiplayer online game creation platform' to 'Game Creation and Social Media Platform'
There was a discussion earlier on outdated sources for the main description of Roblox. I was looking into finding more recent and reliable sources to look into changing the current description, based upon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources/Perennial_sources
Current: "Roblox is a massively multiplayer online game creation platform that allows users to design their own games and play a wide variety of different types of games created by other users through Roblox Studio. The platform hosts social network games constructed of Lego-like virtual blocks."
Possible change: "Roblox is a game creation and social media platform where users design their own games and play a wide variety of different types of games developed by other users. The platform hosts social-network games developed through its game engine Roblox Studio."
The main reason for the change is to remove the old CNET source that Rocky28447 discussed under Reviewing Outdated Information, replacing it with more reliable sources that describe Roblox. Looking at the following potential sources that could be added to back this change below.
http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20180323-how-video-games-make-some-teens-millionaires
BBC: "Roblox, a kids-focused platform that allows children to build their own games and publish them online..."
BBC also seems to liken it to Steam/the App Store - "Today, thanks to online sales platforms like the App Store, Steam or Roblox, anyone with the right idea and some development nous can reach more than a billion people."
Forbes: "Roblox, based in San Mateo, California, is a combination gaming and social media platform."
Looking into the 'Parent's Guide' written by Roblox, they call themselves a technology platform. - https://corp.roblox.com/parents/
I'm posting this in the Talk since this seems like a relatively major change(removing an older source for the main description of an article and altering the main description), so I'd like some input on whether or not this is a good change.
Piklies (talk) 17:38, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Articles for ROBLOX games with over a million visits
Hello, I was wondering if we should make articles for ROBLOX games with over one million visits, take Stepford County Railway for example. MrTrains227 20:14, 18 September 2018
- It's a nice idea, but probably not. In general, all Wikipedia articles need their topic to meet WP:GNG -- and that goes by significant coverage in reliable sources. Rightly or wrongly, it completely ignores numerically-counted popularity like numbers of visits or WP:GOOGLEHITS. MPS1992 (talk) 20:38, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
- Actually, I think it's very possible, just over 1 million visits is kind of pretty ridiculous given how many games have 1 million visits. Games like Jailbreak/MeepCity/Pokemon Brick Bronze are potential targets, as they have a fair number of news articles written specifically about the games and their developers. Piklies (talk) 08:16, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
- Well, if you're sure, you could try collaborating on a Wikipedia:Articles for creation draft:
Well, first things first, Pokemon Brick Bronze has been deleted. MrTrains227 —Preceding undated comment added 12:12, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
- That makes it all the better though - it's a game that has received news articles, and had controversy surrounding it's deletion. It should definitely have enough information for wiki page.
- Piklies (talk) 02:36, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Piklies and MrTrains227: there's no controversy, it's merely a procedural deletion of a Wikipedia draft that appears to have been abandoned, and anyone could either request it be restored with the instructions given, or just start a new draft by following the link provided above. I imagine @RHaworth: agrees, and he may also have an opinion to offer on the possible notability according to Wikipedia standards of any of the proposed articles. MPS1992 (talk) 22:33, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- @MPS1992: first I'd like to mention that Piklies was talking about the game being deleted, not the Wikipedia page. Next, I'd like to say that I don't know how notable or in-depth a series of Roblox game articles would be, but I wouldn't be surprised if the information were there. Zoom (talk page) 23:23, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
Alright. I'll collect information about these games and then make articles.
Started working on Stepford County Railway page. MrTrains227
- Moved to draftspace: Draft:Stepford County Railway. This is no where near ready for article space. -- ferret (talk) 11:48, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
ferret That is fine with me. MrTrains227 —Preceding undated comment added 12:37, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
Created the draft for Jailbreak, if you want to contribute, I'll leave some more links as comments in the wikitext. Has potential. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zzzoom (talk • contribs) 00:52, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
Stepford County Railway page done for now. MrTrains227 (talk) 00:07, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
- Returned to draft space. This is no where near ready for mainspace, is unsourced, and full of WP:GAMECRUFT. -- ferret (talk) 00:12, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
Comments - While I appreciate that you (MrTrains227) are contributing in good faith to the encyclopedia, a number of things in the above discussion struck me as warranting a reply.
- Any article on Wikipedia must WP:RS cite reliable sources. Very few reliable sources mention individual Roblox games. The only source I can think of which has repeatedly published articles about them is Business Insider, and there is no consensus that it can be regarded as a reliable source.
- The original question in this thread (
if we should make articles for ROBLOX games with over one million visits
) is not framed in a way that can comply with Wikipedia's policies on notability and verifiability, because the number of times a game has been visited is unfortunately not indicative of whether or not we can make a substantial article about them. Some top games on the website such as "MeepCity" may have over two and a half billion visits, but it's ultimately the media coverage (secondary sources) that will prove whether or not it can have a Wikipedia article. In the event that a game with millions, hundreds of thousands, or even thousands of visits gets a large amount of coverage by reliable sources (as unlikely as this would be), that would also demonstrate a level of notability. This, however, has not been the case with the drafts being started here, and unfortunately I am skeptic that these could be published in the near future. - Controversy surrounding the once popular Pokemon game on the website does not demonstrate notability unless there are reliable secondary sources that demonstrate that such a controversy exists at all. Copyright infringement was the reason why it was removed, as it used a brand that it didn't have the legal rights to use. I don't expect than an article could be made about this game.
- Please note that "ROBLOX" is incorrect. The company's marketing team has specified that "Roblox" is the only correct way to refer to the brand in text. I am noting this here to ensure that it does not need to be fixed in the future.
I'd like to invite you to join the Wikipedia Adventure :)
I don't want to discourage you from editing, and I'm very happy that you're working on building the encyclopedia. Please just make sure to cite your sources and become more familiar with the Wikipedia guidelines. If you ever need help, we're happy to offer it.
Brendon the Wizard ✉️ ✨ 21:07, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- @BrendonTheWizard: Thank you for letting me know! :D M R T R A I N S 2 2 7 14:30, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
Better yet, what about a billion visits? say what (talk) 20:11, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Ruuka: Maybe lets ignore the million visit games and just do a billion visit articles. Thanks, M R T R A I N S 2 2 7 22:19, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
- An article about a game that has over 2 billion has been nominated for deletion. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jailbreak (Roblox game). --Walk Like an Egyptian (talk) 00:52, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
Should a "Roblox Studio" article be added?
Hi. Roblox Studio is an entirely different app on Roblox so why not make a an article about it? Signed, M R T R A I N S 2 2 7 13:38, 2 December 2018 (UTC). — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrTrains227 (talk • contribs)
- Same reason none of the games should have their own articles: Because in-depth secondary coverage in reliable sources doesn't exist. What little we can source can be said here. It's not like Roblox Studio can be used to make non-Roblox games. It's part of the platform, not a separate entity. -- ferret (talk) 15:52, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
- ferret, you're right about the games, but I just searched Google for news articles and were tons, but I still don't know the difference between Reliable Sources and Sources. Besides, Roblox Studio is another application. Kind regards, u s e r m r t r a i n s 2 2 7 (talk) 22:41, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
- Another application, but the same platform. You use Roblox Studio to make games for the Roblox platform. The topics are intertwined. -- ferret (talk) 22:46, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
- ferret, you're right about that I'll not create a draft for after all. Kind regards, u s e r m r t r a i n s 2 2 7 (talk page)
- Another application, but the same platform. You use Roblox Studio to make games for the Roblox platform. The topics are intertwined. -- ferret (talk) 22:46, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
- ferret, you're right about the games, but I just searched Google for news articles and were tons, but I still don't know the difference between Reliable Sources and Sources. Besides, Roblox Studio is another application. Kind regards, u s e r m r t r a i n s 2 2 7 (talk) 22:41, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
Response to "Release Date
Well In 2003, Dynablocks was the 1'st generation of Roblox. and in response to the topic release date roblox was NOT released in April 6, 2006, due to the fact that Dynablocks was made in 2003, 2 years later it was renamed to "roblox" because "dynablocks was too hard to remember" then a year later in April 6, 2006 roblox was fully released out of its beta stage. as people think it was the ACTUAL roblox release date the actual release date was December 12, 2003. And if anyone disagrees Dynablocks is Considered: "Roblox" you have to think again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18d:a81:626d:1425:3a7c:1cb0:33ea (talk) 03:33, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
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Kind regards, u s e r m r t r a i n s 2 2 7 (talk page) 22:56, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. -- ferret (talk) 23:03, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
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I want to add something about Rthro
- It is made to look more human-like -Scaling options released in June, but only up to 30% Rthro - Full Scaling options released October 22, 2018 Sun Sunris (talk) 21:31, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- Not done Sorry, but we need a source. Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 04:50, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 February 2019
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Roblox was actually made in 2012 and released in 2016, however, most people say it was made in 2004 and released in 2006.2datatags (talk) 23:49, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jalen D. Folf (talk) 00:25, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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Please change the red logo to the black version. According to Roblox's updated brand guidelines in the .zip file below from the Press Kit on their corporate site (corp.roblox.com), the logo should be black or graphite, NOT red.
https://corp.roblox.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Logo_Roblox-1.zip
CriticalSass (talk) 22:35, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
- Also raised at File Discussion Page RhinosF1 (talk) 22:49, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
- Not done for now: lets see what happens at the other page regarding if we can use the file, before proceeding to use it DannyS712 (talk) 22:58, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
- There's no copyright issues which preclude you from using either red or black version of the logo. The logo is sufficiently simple that it's ineligible for copyright protection. Nick (talk) 23:08, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
- Done Jalen D. Folf (talk) 00:38, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Revisiting articles for Roblox games
Hello! A little while back there was a thread discussing the possibility of creating independent articles for Roblox games. Needless to say, the Jailbreak article was deleted and the other drafts were abandoned. After the Jailbreak article was deleted, there was a clear, in depth secondary source for the game, but I didn't get a chance to rewrite the article until recently. In doing so, I thought that it would be more appropriate to have an article for a list of notable Roblox games as opposed to several stubs or start class articles on some games with minimal coverage. So far, this is what I have for a List of notable games on Roblox (the lead isn't finished). I'm thinking that I would need one or two more games added to the page before I move it into the mainspace. Feedback/ideas would be appreciated. Zoom (talk page) 19:30, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- Recommend cross posting to WT:VG for advice. The fans who frequent this page (and leading to constant reverts) cannot give a good policy based review. -- ferret (talk) 19:53, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- Seconded - no offense, but in my observation, the cross-section between “Wikipedia policy experts” and “Roblox fans” has been...exceptionally small. Additionally, it may be easier to make a decision if you list off the specific sources that you claim provide the significant coverage necessary to meet the WP:GNG. Sergecross73 msg me 20:41, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Zzzoom: Good point. Although I abandoned my draft months ago in October, it might be a good idea to revisit these drafts as I am a huge Roblox fan and it would be nice to work on this idea again :). MrTrains227 14:28, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
- Seconded - no offense, but in my observation, the cross-section between “Wikipedia policy experts” and “Roblox fans” has been...exceptionally small. Additionally, it may be easier to make a decision if you list off the specific sources that you claim provide the significant coverage necessary to meet the WP:GNG. Sergecross73 msg me 20:41, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
Games
There is only 1'game mention on article and it is jailbreak but no mention of other games on the platform — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cvxs (talk • contribs) 16:13, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry, but you need a citation to prove that the other games exist. Jailbreak is notable because a source proved it had the most players play it. TheSmartPersonUS1 (TSPUS1) (talk) 22:56, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 February 2019
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Please change the logo image (File:Roblox_Logo_Black.jpg) to new SVG version (File:Roblox Logo Black.svg). WhatShouldBeDoneHmm (talk) 20:37, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
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Request - Change "The platform hosts social network games constructed of Lego-like virtual blocks." to "The platform hosts social network games made through its its proprietary engine, Roblox Studio.
From Roblox's official guide - https://corp.roblox.com/parents/ - it describes itself as a global platform that hosts games.
The article originally cited is an outdated explanation of current-day Roblox. Roblox no longer describes itself as an online world but rather a technology platform. There's some irrelevant parts in the article cite (misspellings and whatnot) but it does not reflect the current state of the platform.
It has inaccuracies from time gone past - e.g "There's no way to cash out of Roblox, though, so the in-game economics are somewhat unhinged from reality." - which is possible since a year after the article was published.
The change I have suggested would mainly be requoting from the description on Roblox Studio within the wikipedia article, which would be more accurate as every game on the platform is made with Roblox Studio.
Piklies (talk) 00:09, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- Not done I’m not sure your proposed wording is better - it introduces more issues. It’s a far more vague statement that your average non-fan wouldn’t really understand. “Built by LEGO blocks”, with a wiki-link to Lego, is an idea virtually any English reader could understand. “Made by Roblox Studio” means nothing to your average reader. That doesn’t mean anything to most people, they don’t know what it is and it doesn’t have a Wiki-link (nor should it, it’s almost certainly not independently notable). Its kind of like when people try to define something with the word itself. (What is basketball? Well, it’s a game played with a basketball and basketball hoop. It’s not that it’s wrong, just doesn’t help someone who doesn’t know what it is yet.) Sergecross73 msg me 01:02, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- How about something that's more clear with the same meaning? - "The platform hosts social network games created by other users on the site." would be very accurate to what Roblox is(a game hosting service/platform for games combined in one.). I don't think it would be too confusing, since the general meaning is that other people and not Roblox itself makes the games on the site. Piklies (talk) 06:20, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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template. RhinosF1(chat)(status)(contribs) 09:08, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
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Please remove "(stylized as ROBLOX)" from the text. Roblox does not stylize themselves as this.
https://devforum.roblox.com/t/official-roblox-brand-guidelines/62894 (This thread was hidden some time ago though from forum changes), but here is a screenshot https://preview.redd.it/gd8owkvhvrx11.png?width=699&auto=webp&s=10aeabc13652bdca99343678283e253999e26298 of the text.
There is also no citation to "(stylized as ROBLOX)", and a quick runthrough of the Roblox site does not show Roblox stylizing itself as ROBLOX. Piklies (talk) 06:21, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Info: The old ROBLOX logo was stylized as ROBLOX. Sorry if this is necroposting :/ Mullafacation (talk) 18:25, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
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Events are going to be discontinued soon. They will soon be replaced with Live-Ops (Link: Roblox developer forum). There should be a edit on this page that states the discontinuation of events and the replacement with the new Live-Ops system. BigOofChaziz (talk) 00:10, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. DannyS712 (talk) 00:13, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
I've actually provided a link, Oh. Can't we just put a message that's like "After the 2019 egg hunt ends, there will be no more events" or somethin'. BigOofChaziz (talk) 00:25, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, it said "Starting on May 13, 2019, Roblox will begin highlighting developer daily Live-Ops events." Uh, how is this different to whatever they were doing before? Who knows? MPS1992 (talk) 00:33, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- i haven't heard a lot about live-ops, other than it's just events with a different name but they're made by roblox game developers. so maybe we should stick with "events". non-players can still understand with "events", not live ops--BigOofChaziz (talk) 00:37, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
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Please change "The platform hosts social network games constructed of Lego-like virtual blocks. As of September 2018, Roblox has over 70 million monthly active users" to "The platform hosts user-created games and virtual worlds covering a wide variety of genres, from traditional racing and role-playing games to simulations and obstacle courses[1]. As of April 2019, Roblox has over 90 million monthly active users.[2]"
I believe this revised first sentence more accurately defines the current state of Roblox. The article currently cited is from 2011 before smooth terrain materials were added to the platform (https://blog.roblox.com/2015/06/create-all-new-worlds-with-smooth-terrain/). Not only that, but the old Roblox blocky terrain has been sunset (https://blog.roblox.com/2016/08/announcing-deprecation-and-removal-of-old-terrain/). Looking at any gameplay video, it's clear that Roblox games are no longer "constructed of "Lego-like virtual blocks." It's become a more sophisticated platform where users can create a wide variety of rich, detailed experiences and worlds that aren't as "blocky" as they used to be in Roblox's past. Official 2019 Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sme76WoJ_-U
Secondly, regarding the second sentence, there have been a slew of news articles citing their updated monthly active user count. As an example: https://www.ft.com/content/c1ed8dee-57a5-11e9-a3db-1fe89bedc16e
References
- ^ Knapp, Alex. "How Roblox Is Training The Next Generation Of Gaming Entrepreneurs". Forbes. Retrieved 23 April 2019.
- ^ Ram, Aliya. "Roblox games platform plans European expansion". Financial Times. Retrieved 23 April 2019.
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"Jailbreak is one of most popular games on the site, accumulating tens of thousands of concurrent players daily" is written as if it is a current event, when it was an event that happened in the past. It is no longer the case today. Please change it to "Jailbreak was one of most popular games on the site, accumulating tens of thousands of concurrent players daily at its height" Atchison clark (talk) 04:28, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
- Done -- Dane talk 20:14, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
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Can you please add a category, 'Criticism' on this page, because there are a lot of bad things about roblox that are not stated on this page. 172.13.62.187 (talk) 15:44, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: Inappropriate category, this is not a "criticism" article or a defining characteristic of it. -- ferret (talk) 15:55, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
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I would like to add a short content based on the links below into the "Reception and revenue" section that contains description about the Ready Player One event. It can be like "the grand prize for the event was won by user r0cu".
- https://heavy.com/games/2018/04/r0cu-roblox-player-golden-dominus/
- https://kotaku.com/ready-player-one-themed-roblox-event-becomes-a-big-mess-1825054420 137.74.150.79 (talk) 06:16, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
- Done LakesideMinersMy Talk Page 13:06, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you dude! 137.74.150.79 (talk) 15:14, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
Roblox & Tencent future joint company
Roblox recently announced a joint venture with Tencent, a major Chinese company, and will be based in Shenzhen. Worth mentioning or following until more information is provided? This would also be appropriate to mention on the Tencent page as well.StaringAtTheStars✉Talk 04:20, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
Add something about the risk of child abuse on the platform
The Roblox platform was recently quoted in a BBC article for being a tool for child abuses and grooming: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-48450604 I think there should be some information about this on the Wikipedia page to warn potential young users. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Modfer (talk • contribs) 00:42, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
- It's already being discussed above, under the thread "Roblox exploiting controversies". Jalen D. Folf (talk) 00:49, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
Why is this article protected with extended confirmed protection?
Why is this article protected with extended confirmed protection? Why requests for adding critics about the platform are turned down by some users? Are some Roblox employees controlling this page? I hope all of this is just speculation but some things are strange. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Modfer (talk • contribs) 17:56, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
- The article was protected after persistent vandalism by compromised autoconfirmed accounts on the 21st of November 2018: [2] StaringAtTheStars✉Talk 18:54, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
Roblox exploiting controversies
There was a major exploiting incident that ended up on big news; in your opinion should we include it in controversies section? 137.74.150.79 (talk) 07:58, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
- As someone noted before, this is not the place for a controversy section. The exploiting incident as far as I recall was on one of the older games without any modern security features that has since been disabled from public play. Piklies (talk) 20:04, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
- That discussion was about adding a category to this article, not about including criticism or controversy regarding the product that the article is about. I don't see that the particular version of the software is a reason to omit mentioning well-sourced problematic incidents. (Although a separate Controversy section would not necessarily be the best way of including it.) BBC News is considered a reliable source. MPS1992 (talk) 20:09, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
- Indeed. USA TODAY and Sky News has followed through the incident. 137.74.150.79 (talk) 13:41, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
- Ongoing detailed coverage from the BBC about different but related incidents. MPS1992 (talk) 19:44, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
- Therefore I think the controversies section is ripe for the article. Just my two cents.137.74.150.79 (talk) 13:41, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
- This needs added to the article, but not necessarily as a "Controversy" section, unless there's multiple rather than just one. It can go in Reception for now. If someone will propose text to add, I'll add it to the article. Make sure everything is appropriately sourced and WP:NPOV. -- ferret (talk) 17:02, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
- In a section below this an editor has put forth another BBC source claiming that Roblox is being used for "child abuses and grooming". 137.74.150.79 (talk) 07:30, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
suggestions for additions
Video games portal template, categories (Video games with user-generated gameplay content, Video games with cross-platform play, Virtual reality games, Video game development software), specification of the platform for the release date and release dates for the other platforms — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martin Kraus (talk • contribs) 11:50, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
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At the events section, say that this feature is discontinued JNDSFHJFO (talk) 22:11, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: Could you be more specific, and maybe provide a reliable source? Saucy[talk – contribs] 03:52, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
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In the development section it says
In June, the company launched a version compatible with Windows 10. While the game platform has had a PC presence since 2004 with its web version, this is the first time it was upgraded with a standalone launcher built for Windows.[26]
It should be changed to
In June, the company launched a version compatible with Windows 10. While the game platform has had a PC presence since 2006 with its web version, this is the first time it was upgraded with a standalone launcher built for Windows.[26]
As roblox was released in 2006 64.222.180.90 (talk) 16:50, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: This is also including the beta version, which was started in 2004. Source [26] also says 2004. Saucy[talk – contribs] 03:33, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 July 2019
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Remove "often stylized as ROBLOX". This has already been removed beforehand from the wikipedia article prior from a previous edit request here - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roblox&diff=877527614&oldid=877527584
There is no accurate source to being stylized as 'ROBLOX'. Hovering over their official pages shows no indication of this either. https://corp.roblox.com/technology/
Another example would be from their logo guidelines https://en.help.roblox.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001708126-Roblox-Name-and-Logo-Community-Usage-Guidelines - "The Name “Roblox”. You can use the name “Roblox” as long as the use doesn’t confuse consumers. In other words, you can refer to “Roblox” as the name of our platform, and you can use the name to show your interest in or affection for our platform."
Unfortunately while the page is hidden for non-developer accounts on this page https://devforum.roblox.com/t/official-roblox-brand-guidelines/62894, this image was from their developer forums from that link as an official post(reddit link to an image) https://www.reddit.com/r/roblox/comments/9w7tma/roblox_is_not_a_game/ Piklies (talk) 18:04, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- Done -- ferret (talk) 18:05, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
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Please change "As of April 2019, Roblox has over 90 million monthly active users" to "As of August 2019, Roblox has over 100 million monthly active users."
CriticalSass (talk) 21:51, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- Done Abote2 (talk) 00:09, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
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Hello. Roblox BC got changed to premium can you please edit it to premium. 174.19.97.208 (talk) 20:13, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Frood 03:32, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
Extended confirmation protection edit request on August 20, 2019
I would like you to add this image in the “overview” section in the “Players” part please. Thank you. Arthurfan828 (talk) 21:52, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: the file has been deleted as a violation of the Fair Use policy. Frood 03:32, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
Extended confirmation protection edit request on August 22, 2019
I would like to add the URL of Roblox in the infobox. Thanks for your considerations. Namethatisnotinuse (talk) 22:14, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: the video games infobox doesn't have a place to put URLs. However, the official website is already in the "External Links" section. Frood 03:32, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 September 2019
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I would like to request changing the Date from 2006 to 2005, as the name Roblox was founded in that year. Sorry to bother you, have a nice day :) Zoomplayz (talk) 17:28, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:49, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Though this edit request has already been answered and declined, I believe that I understand what User:Zoomplayz is requesting, and it would not be an accurate change. While it is true that Roblox had players in 2005, its beta launched in 2004 under the name "DynaBlocks." 2005 marks when the product changed its name to "Roblox," while the company's official launch took place in Autumn of 2006. Thank you for taking the time to make this request, though! Cheers, Vanilla Wizard 💙 22:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
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Add a new category which involves controversies and lawsuits.
For controversies, it will be about the sexual and threatening interactions in-game that have been talked about in the news, and another controversy may be the UAE ban. For lawsuits, it will be about the Cinemark v. Roblox lawsuit, for trademark violation and games made about the 2012 Aurora shooting. UkerBoss1772 (talk) 02:13, 23 September 2019 (UTC
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:17, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Premium is now a thing
Maybe we should add it HurricaneMichael2018 (talk) 01:54, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
- Since the article does currently mention when Roblox first released its paid membership system, it would be reasonable to note its new replacement. However, because this change is still being rolled out, the company has not formally announced it & we'd have neither primary nor secondary sources to cite, so we are not able to add it to the article at this time. I'm sure there will be sources to cite eventually, though 😊 Vanilla Wizard 💙 08:10, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
- This feature has since been released & the company has announced it on their forum section. It would be better to have secondary sources, but it is at least due to add it as a footnote now. I'll add it if I have time later today. Vanilla Wizard 💙 20:59, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
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192.206.244.18 (talk) 19:54, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
let me edit plzz
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. aboideautalk 20:08, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Error, users can submit accesories to the site as of recently.
Please fix, this information is innacurate.
Edit: Source: https://devforum.roblox.com/t/ugc-catalog-is-now-live/331405
Fivework (talk) 03:34, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: As the primary source linked describes, only a select few users can submit to the website at this time (and it is worth mentioning that many of these select users are current or former employees or interns of the company or otherwise closely related, so it's not quite "user-generated" just yet). If this does become a genuine user-generated-content system (which would represent a significant shift away from how it currently functions), and if reliable, secondary sources talk about it, then it would certainly be worth mentioning, but it's not very notable that an undisclosed number of people meeting an undisclosed criteria have the ability to upload content. Vanilla Wizard 💙 19:10, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
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Now people like diesoft or other roblox creators can create hats 167.93.37.50 (talk) 17:52, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
- Not done What? I think you need a source for that. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 17:56, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
- Post-declining Not done - I'm late to this thread, but I thought I should leave a note since multiple individuals have made edit requests asking that the article mentions the recent "user-generated content" accessories on the website. I'm leaving this here for any future editors who make similar edit requests relating to this topic. I was considering adding a mention of this to the article, but after double-checking the provided source, I discarded my draft because I realized that it's not as notable as it seems. It may be interesting from the player's perspective that a number of content-creators on the website now have the ability to create and sell virtual hats, something that only Roblox staff could hitherto do, but in reality, these creators all "worked with" the company, and this criteria has yet to be updated to include non-former-employees:
We will be adding more developers in small waves throughout the rest of 2019 and 2020. For the initial group, we chose developers who we have worked with in the past who also have experience with 3D modeling. The criteria for future developers given access is an ongoing discussion.
- In other words, the users granted permission to upload to this "user-generated content catalog" are still being hand-picked by the company based on the company's experience with them. So far, all of these users appear to have met at least one of these criteria:
- worked as a full-time employee for the company
- worked as an intern for the company
- been contracted by the company to create virtual content for special events
- For example, the user that the anonymous IP editor mentioned, the user "DieSoft", was contracted by the company on at least three separate occasions, as they describe in their profile blurb. (Users who work on official events are picked by and paid by the company for their work, so this is contractual employment.)
- In short, this isn't a notable change. Before this change, only Roblox employees could upload to the catalog. Now, people who were employed by Roblox can. For that reason, I don't believe it's notable enough describe in the article, at least not yet. Cheers, Vanilla Wizard 💙 01:39, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
Roblox
Maybe there’s a way we can talk about the shutting down rumors? HuskyDawg08 (talk) 14:48, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
- Why would we talk about rumors? There's always various rumors, until something concrete is reported we don't include it. -- ferret (talk) 15:05, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
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Please change the image to File:RobloxBlackwithWhite.png Omarmaluki (talk) 14:06, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
- Not done: You did not provide an explanation why you want the image to be changed. Even then, this may require community consensus. theinstantmatrix (talk) 15:04, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
- Opposed to a change, just in case it needs stated. This isn't an official logo, while what we currently have is. -- ferret (talk) 15:15, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
- To add on to what ferret mentioned, the company's press kit contains PDFs with guidelines specifying which logos are official and correct. The version currently used in the article is correct, and the official alterations of it are ones that change the black color to a white or a "graphite" color. Any other alterations are unofficial. The silver gradient version that Omarmaluki appears to be an unofficial version which applies the style of the current "Roblox Player" app icon (a silver tilted square letter "O" with a gradient) to the full logo, but that is not a real logo. Vanilla Wizard 💙 00:22, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
Is roblox really shutting down?
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hi is Roblox really shutting down bc theres been alot of chatting about is it true — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:F2C0:EAD0:16B:1091:F8AA:6227:F4DA (talk) 00:42, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
- This talk page is for discussing the article content, not for general discussion of the subject. Meters (talk) 01:43, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
- Second time it was asked recently. I'll just leave this here though: All rumors are based around a hoax article that was posted in early 2019. No, there's no news of a shutdown. -- ferret (talk) 03:13, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
It's pointless if it shutsdown! TrainMasterGD987 (talk) 13:53, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- This is not a forum for discussing the game. The game is not shutting down. Further comments on this topic will simply be removed, read WP:NOTFORUM. -- ferret (talk) 14:03, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 January 2020
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Could you please add some information of the 2012 April Fools Incident? 2600:6C5D:617F:A48F:5814:4AD9:B309:FE58 (talk) 18:48, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -- ferret (talk) 18:57, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
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I would recommand you to change Roblox is a massively multiplayer online and game creation system platform to Roblox is a massively multiplayer online game and game creation system platform as it is a game and not everyone knows what massively multiplayer online means 71.254.12.11 (talk) 11:47, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- Done "MMO" without "game" is incomplete and "system platform" is redundant. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:18, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
Roblox’s influence with memes
Roblox is a fantastic game, but I feel like we need a section about roblox’s influence with memes. Such as despacito spider and oof head. -Star (talk) 18:05, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
- They would have to be covered by reliable secondary sources, which is rarely done for memes. -- ferret (talk) 18:27, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
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24.214.47.96 (talk) 02:10, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
UGC (User Generated Catalog) 24.214.47.96 (talk) 02:10, 7 March 2020 (UTC) UGC is where people can create their own hats and make it have a unique design.
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -- ferret (talk) 02:31, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
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Under Awards and Recognition, please add the latest Fast Company accolade: Fast Company's World's 50 Most Innovative Companies - #1 in Gaming and #9 Overall (2020)[1]
- CriticalSass (talk) 00:58, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
References
- ^ "These are the 50 Most Innovative Companies of 2020". Fast Company. Retrieved 2020-03-10.
Annual Bloxy’s
Roblox hosts a annual award show called the “Bloxy’s” good fit for the event category. -Star (talk) 17:29, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
Short description inacurracy
Robles is not an MMORPG From D0nk M3m3s (talk) 22:09, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 March 2020
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"Roblox is a massively multiplayer online video game" should be changed to "Roblox is an online metaverse" because that is what it practically is. Compare the IMVU article. The "and game creation system" part can stay, as that is correct. I request this because the description "massively multiplayer online" can only apply to video games, and Roblox is not a video game; they have also officially stated in their brand guidelines on the Developer Forum that Roblox is not a game, as archived on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/roblox/comments/9w7tma/roblox_is_not_a_game/ WhatShouldBeDoneHmm (talk) 18:02, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Reddit comments are not generally considered reliable sources. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:49, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
- I only linked the Reddit post to back up the fact that Roblox does not consider itself (and does not want others calling it) a game or video game, because it and this whole Twitter thread (again sorry)--and namely the screenshots directly in the links/the OPs that the links directly show the visitor--are the only publicly available reprints of this part of Roblox's official Brand Guidelines, which are only available to people who have the Regular rank (a rank for automatically approved members, which neither of us can quickly achieve) on Roblox's official Developer Forum. Consider the concept of the "argument from silence" - these are basically contemporary (Internet)-form eyewitness sources from people who saw the Brand Guidelines thread before it was made accessible exclusively to Regular members. If the screenshots were faked, why are they being discussed like they're real? I was also an eyewitness of the original page of the Brand Guidelines page; I saw it before it was made Regular-exclusive (whether or not you believe me is up to you but that's besides the point :P).
Also consider that Roblox does not state anywhere that it is a game, or a video game. Or if you do find anything suggesting otherwise, it is basically invariably outdated and from a time when Roblox was something different than what it is now. See https://corp.roblox.com/parents/ - this page says "Roblox is a global platform" and it never refers to Roblox as a "(massively multiplayer online) (video) game." I know this is a primary and non-independent source, as would be the Brand Guidelines page if it was publicly accessible and thus linkable, but I think that's fine in the case of the first sentence of a given Wikipedia article and how it and the thing itself describe the thing and itself. In addition to Roblox being a game creation system, it can be considered a metaverse because that is the experience you get when you utilize Roblox and its features, as found on the official Roblox website as well as the official Roblox client that you download and install. Thus, "Roblox is a massively multiplayer online video game" should be replaced with "Roblox is an online metaverse" to complement the "game creation system" description. WhatShouldBeDoneHmm (talk) 23:09, 26 March 2020 (UTC)- Not done:We don't care what Roblox wants to brand themselves as or refer to themselves as, but what secondary reliable sources refer to it as. Sources call it a video game and a game creation platform, both of which are perfectly accurate. "Metaverse" is a jargon market-y phrase that no secondary sources use in reference to Roblox, let alone a majority of sources. The term is likely used inappropriately at IMVU, but that's irrelevant to the topic of Roblox. -- ferret (talk) 23:18, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
- Understandable. I still believe that those secondary sources are incorrectly/inappropriately referring to Roblox as a "video game," since a (video) game is more like something like World of Warcraft or Minecraft or a Mario game, while Roblox is clearly a platform for creating games. If "metaverse" is an inappropriate term, editors of the IMVU article may as well remove it from the IMVU article by now, and the "metaverse" article itself should be revised or (if necessary) renamed or deleted. I know that's besides the point here since the topic here is Roblox, but I think it's something to consider. Is "metaverse" just a neologism in this (or its main) sense? I can't tell, but if it is, I guess don't use it. But "metaverse" is still the only word I know of that can be a good replacement for "(video) game" for when we need to describe subjects such as Roblox where it's more of a platform for creating games than an actual single (video) game and also where it's debated what the thing actually is (game or metaverse or platform or system or etc.?). Either way, that's just my thoughts; the current description on the article is fine if that's what works. WhatShouldBeDoneHmm (talk) 23:41, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
- While I may personally agree that Roblox itself is not a game, but rather a platform on which users generate and share their own games, this change can only be done if reliable sources can be added describing Roblox as a platform rather than a game. I haven't personally checked to see if any sources do this, but I would like to think that at least some do. If you can link to reliable secondary sources that do this, I'd be more than happy to make this edit. Vanilla Wizard 💙 22:51, 29 March 2020 (UTC)¸
- Understandable. I still believe that those secondary sources are incorrectly/inappropriately referring to Roblox as a "video game," since a (video) game is more like something like World of Warcraft or Minecraft or a Mario game, while Roblox is clearly a platform for creating games. If "metaverse" is an inappropriate term, editors of the IMVU article may as well remove it from the IMVU article by now, and the "metaverse" article itself should be revised or (if necessary) renamed or deleted. I know that's besides the point here since the topic here is Roblox, but I think it's something to consider. Is "metaverse" just a neologism in this (or its main) sense? I can't tell, but if it is, I guess don't use it. But "metaverse" is still the only word I know of that can be a good replacement for "(video) game" for when we need to describe subjects such as Roblox where it's more of a platform for creating games than an actual single (video) game and also where it's debated what the thing actually is (game or metaverse or platform or system or etc.?). Either way, that's just my thoughts; the current description on the article is fine if that's what works. WhatShouldBeDoneHmm (talk) 23:41, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
- Not done:We don't care what Roblox wants to brand themselves as or refer to themselves as, but what secondary reliable sources refer to it as. Sources call it a video game and a game creation platform, both of which are perfectly accurate. "Metaverse" is a jargon market-y phrase that no secondary sources use in reference to Roblox, let alone a majority of sources. The term is likely used inappropriately at IMVU, but that's irrelevant to the topic of Roblox. -- ferret (talk) 23:18, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
- I only linked the Reddit post to back up the fact that Roblox does not consider itself (and does not want others calling it) a game or video game, because it and this whole Twitter thread (again sorry)--and namely the screenshots directly in the links/the OPs that the links directly show the visitor--are the only publicly available reprints of this part of Roblox's official Brand Guidelines, which are only available to people who have the Regular rank (a rank for automatically approved members, which neither of us can quickly achieve) on Roblox's official Developer Forum. Consider the concept of the "argument from silence" - these are basically contemporary (Internet)-form eyewitness sources from people who saw the Brand Guidelines thread before it was made accessible exclusively to Regular members. If the screenshots were faked, why are they being discussed like they're real? I was also an eyewitness of the original page of the Brand Guidelines page; I saw it before it was made Regular-exclusive (whether or not you believe me is up to you but that's besides the point :P).
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Italicize the "Roblox" under the subheading "Roblox Studio". Computer165 (talk) 15:24, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- Done This article could use a thorough copy-edit to un-italicize the company name and italicize the name of the game. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:59, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Custom items in Catalog (UGC)
On August 13, 2019, the UGC Catalog on Roblox was live.[3] However, users found out about the catalog earlier when a test account uploaded the "Fresh Red Baseball Cap" to Roblox before taking it offsale.[4] Select users would be able to upload any hat to the UGC avatar shop for other users to buy and wear as they would a regular item. I was wondering if this should be included in the article? –ToxiBoi! (contribs) 06:33, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
- On second thought, the only sources I could find are for verification, and don't necessarily assert notability. So I totally understand if this shouldn't be included. –ToxiBoi! (contribs) 06:34, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
- Several editors have requested that this be added to the article for months now, and I've been considering adding a very brief footnote citing only a primary source for it, but I'm still hesitant to do so because I don't consider this to be a very fundamental departure from the way that the catalog previously operated. I don't consider it to qualify as "user-generated content" because it's largely a continuation of how virtual accessories have always been created: by the company itself, not by the users. Since its inception, only Roblox employees had the ability to create virtual accessories and they were sold under the official company account. Now, Roblox hand-picks users that the company's staff has experience working with to create virtual items. Many of these users are former employees or interns who worked at the company headquarters for a period of time, others were temporary contractors who the company hired to create virtual content for official virtual events in the past. For this reason, I've been very reluctant to view this as worthy of mentioning in the article, as it's not exactly what people think of when they hear the term "user-generated content." Not only can ordinary users not upload UGC content, there isn't even any way to apply to receive this permission. If there is, only a select group of users are allowed to know about it. Furthermore, any virtual item submitted through this program still has to be approved by employees before it is allowed to be added to the catalog, so it is in effect no different from how virtual items have always been added to the catalog on Roblox. The only change is that now, certain users who are not current employees of the company may create items, but the company is still involved in both the selection of the users and the approval of the content. In short, I don't think it's notable enough. Cheers! Vanilla Wizard 💙 21:41, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Vanilla Wizard, thanks for the comment! –ToxiBoi! (contribs) 02:51, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- Several editors have requested that this be added to the article for months now, and I've been considering adding a very brief footnote citing only a primary source for it, but I'm still hesitant to do so because I don't consider this to be a very fundamental departure from the way that the catalog previously operated. I don't consider it to qualify as "user-generated content" because it's largely a continuation of how virtual accessories have always been created: by the company itself, not by the users. Since its inception, only Roblox employees had the ability to create virtual accessories and they were sold under the official company account. Now, Roblox hand-picks users that the company's staff has experience working with to create virtual items. Many of these users are former employees or interns who worked at the company headquarters for a period of time, others were temporary contractors who the company hired to create virtual content for official virtual events in the past. For this reason, I've been very reluctant to view this as worthy of mentioning in the article, as it's not exactly what people think of when they hear the term "user-generated content." Not only can ordinary users not upload UGC content, there isn't even any way to apply to receive this permission. If there is, only a select group of users are allowed to know about it. Furthermore, any virtual item submitted through this program still has to be approved by employees before it is allowed to be added to the catalog, so it is in effect no different from how virtual items have always been added to the catalog on Roblox. The only change is that now, certain users who are not current employees of the company may create items, but the company is still involved in both the selection of the users and the approval of the content. In short, I don't think it's notable enough. Cheers! Vanilla Wizard 💙 21:41, 8 April 2020 (UTC)