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Julia Chang was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 8 November 2024 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Michelle and Julia Chang. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

This article was nominated for deletion on 21 April 2023. The result of the discussion was Withdrawn.

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Tavantius (talk) 16:08, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 12 November 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Consensus to move and merge in content from Julia Chang as a result of the related AfD. (closed by non-admin page mover) Raladic (talk) 00:50, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michelle Chang (Tekken) → Michelle and Julia Chang – While the AfD for Julia Chang urged the article to be merged into here, with the development info being added to the page and looking over the sources, it has become increasingly clear that both subjects are intertwined, sharing a lot of notability but a clear line of design history with Julia being the similar but successor character to Michelle. The references in the reception section also tend to refer to both for purposes of examining the characters in the scope of Native American representation in gaming. I feel moving to a jointly-titled article would help reduce potential confusion and allow both subjects to be covered properly. Kung Fu Man (talk) 21:03, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment why not do a double merge to Michelle and Julia Chang (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) as a new history start, with each source page preserving the history of the individual characters, so we can easily see the source contributions coming from each article? -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 05:05, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support if the merge will happen. If the merge won't happen, move the page to Michelle Chang instead. 88.235.214.122 (talk) 05:17, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Multiple sources link Michelle and Julia together like [1], [2], [3], [4] and especially this one, it provides a large amount of coverage discussing both characters within 3 pages. There are also more scholar works available that combine both characters together when discussing Native American heritage in video games, for example, this one. Kazama16 (talk) 06:30, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Considering both characters are tied by their design, as well as the latter character having more development commentary, I believe the decision to merge the two together is a good one. Captain Galaxy 23:52, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support - While I don't particularly support Julia being merge in the first place, as I'm pretty sure there's enough in reliable sources about her, despite the article's state at the time. (I didn't notice the AFD in time), I'm fine with her being merged into here for now, with a future possibility of Julia being spun out into her own article again. But anyway, her article already redirects here anyway. And as Kazama16 noted above, multiple sources talk about both Julia and Michelle together. MoonJet (talk) 22:41, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.