Talk:Dissidia Final Fantasy

Sephiroth's English voice actor

Sephiroth's english voice actor is George Newbern (voice actor from Advent Children). I was wondering if someone would be able to post that up on the cast section?

Do you have a reliable source for that? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:40, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

The reliable source is that the same voice actor was used in Kingdom Hearts II, Crisis Core, and Advent Children. Also, having heard the English voice myself, it is audibly obvious that he has reprised the role for Dissidia. It is the same case for Firion (who's voice actor, Johnny Yong Bosch, has one of the most recognizable voices in the gaming/anime industry), Cecil, Cloud, and Squall. Grant George has also confirmed that he was the voice of Warrior of Light on his blog, the entry has since been deleted (probably a legal thing with Square Enix), but I've heard Grant and Warrior of Light speak and it is Grant George that's voicing him. I've edited these people in twice and they've been deleted. I have only put in the people that I am 100% positive of. Just because there is not linkable source in written form does not mean that it isn't reliable information. --SilverKiento (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:33, 20 August 2009 (UTC).

*facepalm*

Read the rest of the talk page, what you just said has been said by dozens of others and it still doesn't work. And no matter how many of you say it, it isn't gonna. The Clawed One (talk) 05:52, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Garland's English Voice Actor

I don't understand. If Christopher Sabat isn't the english voice actor for Garland, then why on Christopher Sabat's wikipedia page Garland is still listed? Plus, when it comes to the other voice actors for characters such as Firion, Cloud, Cecil, and Zidane there's no source link for them. So why does Garland's need a source? Alpha92613 (talk) 00:49, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Read the above post numb nuts. The Clawed One (talk) 01:43, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

it can be clearly heard in the new montages from IGN and Gamespy that chris sabat is garland... why was his name erased??? is it because hearing the voice doesn't proove anything? if that is the case then why is JYB, Sam Riegel, Yuri Lowenthal and Steve Burton's names also listed????82.155.222.240 (talk) 17:18, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Indeed. If you're going to cut one actor just because the source is a video, then you're also going to have to removie the majority of the "revealed" English cast. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyberlink420 (talk • contribs) 19:08, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

"is it because hearing the voice doesn't prove anything?" Exactly, hearing someone and saying "that's so-and-so" isn't a source. As I said, read the above posts. If no one can provide a source for those voices then yes, they should be removed. The Clawed One (talk) 19:15, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

i agree with what you are saying and i think that it is well done to remove them all... but i bet that both of us know those actors are the real ones82.155.222.240 (talk) 21:20, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I know the information is correct, but if it can't be sourced it shouldn't be on Wikipedia. I mean, given the pattern so far it's likely that Doug Erholtz is gonna voice Squall again, but that hasn't been confirmed so we don't add it here. The Clawed One (talk) 22:35, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't know how reliable imdb is but it says that Bryce Papenbrook is voicing Zidane which has got to be bogus right but it contridicts what other sites say so they should remain blank until the game is out or there is an official confirmation. Stevie200 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC).

I don't know what it is that people can't understand about this, but I see people sourcing IMDB for everything. IMDB is user-submitted data, just like Wikipedia. But, thank you for providing that information, because I've seen people identify the various VAs as other people too. This is a perfect example of why these things need to be sourced until the game is released or we can find an official announcement. The Clawed One (talk) 02:25, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I would have to disagree. First off, voices like Yuri Lowenthal and Johnny Yong Bosch are very much recognizable. Not to mention we know it's Steven Burton resuming the role of Cloud due to the sound of his voice.Fractyl (talk) 15:10, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't matter if you recognize the voice or not, no official source, too bad. I know that's Burton voicing Cloud, but if there's no official source stating so, it shouldn't be on the page. The Clawed One (talk) 18:10, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

You know its Burton voicing Cloud so you won't add him cause there is no "official" source so he shouldn't be on the page though you can clearly distinguish his voice? So while your at this by your logic you should likely take off all the Japanese VA too since you don't have any citations for them. So even though I know its Takahiro Sakurai voicing Japanese Cloud since there is no citation "it shouldn't be on the page." Please we know its Steve Burton just like we know its Takahiro Sakurai, citation or not we know its them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.115.228.240 (talk) 10:00, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

We know the Japanese VAs because they're noted on the credits for the game and thus don't need outside citations, the information is provided by the game itself. Don't pretend to know what you're talking about when you clearly don't. The Clawed One (talk) 16:45, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes okay as you say, in FFIV DS Yuri was uncredited yet we still know he is the one who voiced Cecil. Doesn't take much to figure that one out. Simple solution is to put the names of the people we know they actually are from the tone in their voices. If you watched DBZ or FMA and you hear Garland's voice you can clearly tell who it is. We know Cloud is Steve Burton, Firion is JYB, Cecil is Yuri and Garland is Chris Sabat. We can ALL tell from their distictive voices, so anyone can put them there, they aren't exactly wrong and you can cite them when it is released. Its not like actually putting a VA name for Kuja, his voice isn't as distinctive as the others and everyone is pretty much clueless on who it may be. And honestly do you really need to come down to insulting me hahaha its amusing to say the least but come on now you seem like a smart guy no need to insult when you can be a little more open towards things and not so controlling on the matter.

You started the insults, you can't handle it don't dish it out. And no, we will not be putting those VAs in the article. Recognizing a voice by ear is not a source. Furthermore, I've seen many people identify the voices of the characters incorrectly, which is exactly why that isn't a source. We're not discussing FF4 DS, so why bring it up? This is Dissidia, not FF4. And no, I will not stop being controlling. If people can't source VA information beyond "oh, uh, I recognize the voice", then it shouldn't be in the article. It's things like that that lead to VAs being added for characters who haven't even been heard yet. The Clawed One (talk) 19:44, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm not saying to change it cause I am the only one who hears the distinction, lots of people hear it a mass of people recognizing a voice of a character with the same actor isn't hard. I brought up FFIV DS to show that even though Yuri's name didn't come up in the credits everyone recognized it by his voice. Yes the Japanese VA's are in the credits to JPN Dissidia, yet not everyone has played the JPN verison only the ones of us that have imported it have. So for people who haven't played it, how would they know that the japanese voices are correct if you don't have citations for it? Believe it or not some people just found out about this game with the E3 trailer so how would they know if it is the right ones. Also please quote where I started the insults, I was just testing your logic on the matter and kept it around that. Also never said I couldn't handle it just that you amused me come on now. I respect your opinion however I disagree with how you are going about enforcing it, for characters who haven't been heard like Emperor, CoD, Ultimecia, Onion Knight, etc. I agree with you 100% on those, even for Kuja his voice is in no way distingunished enough for people to actually agree on it. But Chris Sabat who has been in a lot of stuff(DBZ he was Vegeta,Piccolo,Yamcha,and many others) and people know exactly what his voice sounds like is in a different category from those other people who haven't been heard yet in US Dissidia. Same goes for JYB as Firion that guys voice is the most distingunishable since he is in almost everything from Ichigo in Bleach to Emil in ToS2, and Yuri is the exact same he already voiced Cecil in FFIVDS(even though it was uncredited everyone could tell it was him BY voice) and for the E3 trailer everyone knows that is his voice for Cecil from hearing it and it also helps that he is in a lot of roles too including Sasuke in Naruto and Reks in FFXII. Those characters have been heard and they all lead in a firm direction to who is their VAs, AND not to mention JAT stated, in the citation for his voice as Tidus, that as far as he is aware and from what he got, all of the other original VA had reprised their roles. Meaning Steve Burton, George Newbern, Gregg Berger, Yuri Lownenthal, and Anthony Landor all have citation from JAT himself unless you can't take JATs word for it. So you can at least put those back up unless we aren't going to trust JAT. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.115.228.240 (talk) 20:31, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

The thing about FFIV, though...Jonathan Klein, the voice director had confirmed the cast himself for FFIV. The credits in the FFIV DS section is the confirmed cast. So at least that's cleared out. And, the thing about JAT...he's not quite sure. Sonickenshin (talk) 18:12, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Actually, we can't use JAT's citation, because he said that it was only as far as he was aware. He could actually be wrong about that, its just a statement of his belief, not an actual confirmed fact. He said himself he didn't record with anyone else, so he's only using his knowledge. TonyKM (talk) 00:12, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Zidane's English Voice Actor

I personally e-mailed Bryce Papenbrook to ask him if he voiced Zidane in Dissidia. Here is his response in this print screen image:

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4259/brycepapenbrookaszidane.png

I hope this counts as a reliable source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Info Man X (talk • contribs) 04:00, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

A screenshot of an email with the address blanked and no proof it's what you say it is...I'm gonna take a wild guess and say "it probably isn't". The Clawed One (talk) 05:52, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I didn't blank out Papenbrook's e-mail address, I blanked out mine. I don't want people to know it. Papenbrook's address is clearly seen in the image. Anyway, if you really don't think this is proof, get it straight from the horse's mouth and e-mail him yourself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Info Man X (talk • contribs) 06:47, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

And it would still be original research, and even if it could be used as a source it's very shaky. I can email Ryan Tower and ask him if he's voicing Zidane, and if he says he is, can we add it to the article? BTW - Ryan Tower is just a fansite manager I know, if you're wondering who that is. The Clawed One (talk) 06:52, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

But Ryan Tower isn't playing the role of Zidane, Bryce Papenbrook is. Still, an interview with the possible actors isn't bad, go for it! Werehog22 1:48 AM 7/2/2009 (UTC)

Using email would be not an appropriate source as it's impossible to verify. They aren't "published" in the sense that the world knows it and would fail as an inappropriate primary source. Basically, think this way: Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopedia where people go to start their research with the real information somewhere else. Allowing things like "I saw this, I got an email saying this" completely defeats that purpose and makes Wikipedia itself the source. Sometimes, you just have to go without something. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:39, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Mouths moving in-sync according to language spoken

I just read something on James Arnold Taylor's blog (Tidus' voice actor) that said that it wasn't just a re-dub; the mouths move in-sync to the dialogue in the language that they are speaking. In a regular dub, I notice that the mouths do not move in-sync to the dialogue in the language that they are speaking. I would guess that means that Square Enix of America decided to reprogram the mouths to speak English instead of Japanese, but is that really the case? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.172.105.162 (talk) 15:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

No, they don't reprogram it. What often happens is they just translate and voice the characters in such a way that the translated dialogue matches up with the lip movements. They don't alter the movements of the lips to fit the dialogue, it's the other way around. The Clawed One (talk) 18:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

But aren't there gonna be new cutscenes not seen in the original Japanese version? If so, it those new scenes, they would alter the lip movements. For the original scenes, they wouldn't change the lip movements, but in the all-new scenes, they would, right?

I imagine so, though I guess it would depend on the nature of the new scenes, ie, maybe they concern Golbez and Garland who don't have mouth movements. The Clawed One (talk) 17:13, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

The clawed one, you're an idiot. It is reprogrammed, play KH2, Crisis Core, and see that those games were reprogrammed, compare them to the japanese voices.

The game IS going to be reprogrammed. --Zack fair 007 (talk) 04:39, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

When someone like you, Zack, calls me an idiot, I know better than to listen, as with most everything you've ever said to me and others it's nothing worth noting. The Clawed One (talk) 05:06, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I just saw some clips of the English version; the mouths HAVE been reprogrammed, as they were in Crisis Core; perhaps technological advances have made this possible? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.111.170.241 (talk) 01:21, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Emperor's voice actor

I don't care about refernces and sourcing personally, however I will give everyone an update in case you didn't know. Theres new footage with Firion and Emperor. JYB is Firion for definate and Emporer has been identified as Quinton Flynn and I can recognise this by watching that, please no comments about "hearing voices isn't a source" because I don't give a crap as long as we know then that's all that matters and if we are wrong then we are wrong and we get over it and move on, but Quinton Flynn though I did not see that coming. I know that this info is unverified so i'm not putting it on the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevie200 (talk • contribs) 01:28, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the Emperor's voice has been identified as Quintin Flynn, Terrence Stone and David Bowie, among a few others including "the guy who did Riku". As I've noticed from my YouTube upload of the Emperor's trailer, no one can quite make up their minds. Zidane has recently suffered a similar identity crisis, a few weeks ago his VA was Sam Riegel, now it's Bryce Papenbrook. I do so love you people, I love you people so much I hate you. I really do, I simultaneously love and hate you people, I didn't think it was possible, but apparently it is. The Clawed One (talk) 22:05, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

This is going to happen every week because IGN are showing an english clip with heros and villains from their respective games so next week we will be trying to guess Onion Knight and Cloud of darkness' voice actors because of the order so far FFI and FFII. Stevie200 (talk —Preceding undated comment added 23:24, 4 July 2009 (UTC).

Learn to sign your posts please, it's not difficult. Four "~" signs. And yes, I'm perfectly aware of IGN and GameSpot, in case you didn't notice I'm uploading the videos to YouTube. The point is that no one can agree on who's voicing who, which is exactly why we need sources for the VAs. The Clawed One (talk) 23:57, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

It sounds like Quinton's voicing the Emperor. And as for the CoD, her VA sounds to be Laura Bailey. Anyone care to check their pages?Fractyl (talk) 05:07, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

"Sounds like" is not a reliable source. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:45, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

But I did suggest that we should LOOK at the actors' homepages, if they have one, to check out the resumes.Fractyl (talk) 07:37, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Grant George as Warrior of Light

Why has Grant George's name been removed from the cast? On his official webpage, he has confirmed that he would voice WoL on his resume and the voice heard in the previous IGN montage video of WoL unmistakably features George's voice. Did I miss something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Info Man X (talk • contribs) 05:25, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Checking the edit history may enlighten you. Short version - his page no longer lists the game under his credits. The Clawed One (talk) 05:46, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I doubt it, but I think I may have found a reliable source! http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=13265 Werehog22 3:05 AM 8/8/2009 (UTC)

European release date

The release date for Europe is September 4th and it is available for preoreder on amazon which states the date it will be released. Finalfantasyunion.com has also stated this date. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevie200 (talk • contribs) 23:24, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Cast List.

I have Edited the english Version cast list, as it was posted partially on IMDB and has been confirmed on many of the Voice Actor's websites.

A link to my reference: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1371119/fullcredits#cast

Edit if necessary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.75.29.201 (talk) 17:58, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

IMDB isn't a reliable source, idiot. I'm tired of these dumbass anons who can't respect sourcing and just add whatever they like. The Clawed One (talk) 22:37, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

If it's been confirmed on the voice actors websites then post the voice actors websites as references. (Stevie200 talk) 22:42, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

I apologize- I've always assumed that IMDB could be considered Reliable. I'll go navigate through the websites right now and source them. I apologize for the inconvenience. No need for insults. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.75.29.201 (talk) 22:49, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Confirmed VA #2: Firion - Final Fantasy II (via new GameSpot Preview)

According to GameSpot's video preview on youtube. Seems that Firion is voiced by none other than Johnny Yong Bosch. The video can be catched here and on GameSpot's PSP section ([1]), please add this to Firion's profile. Zeta Nova 16:18, 15 July 2009 (UTC).

Yay, another dumbass who can't understand videos aren't sources. Just what we needed. The Clawed One (talk) 23:26, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Say what you want. But this' another confirmation of another VA who's voicing another Dissidia character. So who ever called me "dumbass" should rethink what they're saying. Because it could be that you haven't seen the trailer yourself Zeta Nova 20:04, 15 July 2009 (UTC).

I have seen the trailer, little one, I'm hosting most of them and would have hosted this were it not containing copyrighted footage. And no where in the trailer do they say who is voicing Firion, therefore nothing is confirmed. Recognizing a voice by ear is not a source, though so many of you children can't seem to understand this. Also, removing comments from talk pages counts as vandalism, so don't do that. The Clawed One (talk) 05:04, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Also, even if it were a reliable source, we've had video footage of Firion with his English voice actor for over a month now. You still fail. The Clawed One (talk) 05:05, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah Clawed One, I guess while we're quoting rules, dishing out insults is no better either, just saying you can state a point without trying insult or degrade a person. <__< PrinceLionheart (talk) 16:48, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

You haven't spent the last two months repeating the same obvious rules about sources again and again. If people would just have some common sense they'd understand those rules without me having to tell them, but I guess not. Simply put, I have zero patience for this debacle anymore. The Clawed One (talk) 17:07, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

And yes, on the one level I do realize I've been a prick to several users and on that level do apologize to them. On another level....just use some common sense, people, please. People sourcing videos and IMDB and fansite forums....really. Just some common sense is all I ask, think about what it is you plan to source and maybe check the policy pages to see if it works. Not to mention we have users who just plain ignore the Admin notices on the page and add whatever they like without any source at all. I'm just tired of having to deal with this crap. The Clawed One (talk) 17:13, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

The Clawed One, I understand what you mean, but you have to respect that these people you're insulting and calling "dumbass" are just trying to help. Although I must say that what you keep repeating is true. I must say to everyone that the rules do state that the information posted must have a reliable source. I do agree that Johnny Young Bosch is voicing Firion because I recognize it myself. However, The Clawed One is right. It's not a reliable source just because someone say it's true. Like, for example, let's say that someone simply stated a random person is voicing Kuja, whose english voice is not distinguishable. You can't say that random person IS voicing him just because people say it is without actual proof. What The Clawed One is trying to stress to you is that these kinds of things aren't official sources: people simply stating it is true, information originating from fansites, information based on rumors, and videos from certain websites such as Youtube. The reason why videos from Youtube isn't an source is simply because anyone can make an video regarding something that's not real. For example, a friend of mine once believed that a pokemon named Lucy (a female version of the pokemon Lucario) actually existed just beacuse he saw a video about it on Youtube. Not to mention that some people believe that Sub-Zero, Scorpion, Noob Saibot, and Reptile of the Mortal Kombat series are all brothers, and they've even made up a ninja named Acid. Anyway, all I'm saying is that unless the video comes from a website like Gamespy, Gamespot, IGN or Siliconera you can totally disregard the video itself. But I must also say that if the video itself doesn't state the information, or the information isn't supported by the official article that comes along with it, it's not a source. All I want everyone here to understand is even if it's obvious, without a source you can't just post it here on Wikipedia because it could be wrong. Wikipedia is supposed to be a site where everyone can get the right information and it can be trusted. I'm not taking anyone's side; I'm only speaking my opinion on all of this. Alpha92613 (talk) 18:57, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

It should be noted on the characters section of the article that all English voices have been exhibited, but that the identities of these voice actors have not been released yet.

That would be 1) false, because not all English voices have been exhibited yet, and 2) irrelevant to the article. The Clawed One (talk) 20:12, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Terra's English voice actor

I just read on IMDB that Megan Hollingshead will voice Terra Branford in the English version of Dissidia.

You sir, have been punk'd. I added that a while ago to demonstrate to fools like you that IMDB is not a reliable source. The Clawed One (talk) 20:38, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Terra sounds like a new actress. Other than the returning characters (FF7, FF8's Squall, FF4), the offical VAs(Though CAN'T BE ADDED yet because of lack of source) I have recognized from reviewing the videos are Johnny Yong Bosch (Firion), Christopher Sabat (Garland), Dave Wittenberg (Kefka), and Beau Billingslea (Exdeath). The rest, I have NO idea until further notice.

But to ask, and contribute here, does Anime News Network count as a source?Fractyl (talk) 05:46, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with the site, but based on the appearance of the words "you can contribute information to this page", I don't think it's a reliable source. The Clawed One (talk) 06:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Here's an wiki page of the Anime News Network. It's generally accepted as a reference as I have seen on other parts of wikipedia. And while attempting to add them, only five of the nine actors I identified were confirmed.Fractyl (talk) 14:15, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I can add information myself, if it's user-submitted data, it's not reliable. It's no different from sourcing a forum, a Wiki or IMDB. The Clawed One (talk) 18:18, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Though the attempt's on the history, here are the URLs. But as the site is used for references here on wikipedia, it's worth a look over.

• Johnny Yong Bosch
• Yuri Lowenthal
• Steven Burton
• Doug Erholtz
• Christopher Sabat

Fractyl (talk) 21:41, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

See previous comment. The Clawed One (talk) 21:44, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, it doesn't seem to stop those who reference it here on wikipedia. Besides, I don't think the data's user-submittable.Fractyl (talk) 21:49, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

If is, once you join you can automatically update page information. It even says on the update form that it's acceptable to add a VA role even if it's just from watching an anime. Seeing as how this is very poor oversight of their content, it's not a reliable source. The Clawed One (talk) 00:51, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

I thought there would be a system of sorts there that keeps false info out.Fractyl (talk) 04:33, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Is this really necessary?

I mean...is the lock really needed? We pretty much know a good chunk of the voice actors...so, like why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by JJimbo3 (talk • contribs) 06:32, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

No, we don't know many of them, we know two. Any other VAs, unless sourced, are just speculation. No matter who claims to recognize what voice, it's still speculation without a source since the game isn't released yet. And yes, it is necessary, since it suffers daily vandalism by people who can't understand this simple concept. The Clawed One (talk) 06:58, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

But didn't James Arnold Taylor already make a confirmation himself that those who voiced the FF characters would also be reprising their roles? Doesn't that technically count? And really dude....you really need to cool down with your attitude. It isn't helping; it's making you look like a dick. --JJimbo3 (talk) 14:27, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

No, I won't calm down, because I'm tired of having to explain the same simple concept to a new fool every week. The Clawed One (talk) 16:24, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Wow, holy fuck. I so have every right to report your ass for harassment. In fact, I'll do just that, but before I do let me explain the flaw in your logic: Non-Union Work. If we go by your empty little sense of logic and reasoning, quite a few pages on Wikipedia will contain incorrect information. I'm not sure if you know what that means, but it's information that isn't true. or, information that's false. Would you like to know why? Take the Devil May Cry anime for example... If we go by your logic via that empty little head of yours, you'd be crediting the wrong person. I can guarantee you...there is no "Justin Cause." That is an alias, aka, FALSE NAME that many people use to avoid undesired situations, in this case union contracts. Take Kirk Thornton for example; the guy goes by like 20 names. And I'm not sure if you know this...but Square Enix work can't avoid this situation either; they must still hire recording studios, who hire voice actors. So before you go and insult my intelligence, do some homework on your part. Now if you'll excuse me, I'll get to that harassment report now. --JJimbo3 (talk) 19:37, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

you guys really should cool down a bit. Especially you, The Clawed One. You are definitely acting a but unpleasant, as for what JJimbo3 said, I can pretty much confirm that to you personally since my father does voice over work for children's cartoons, and he too uses different names for different projects for same reasons. Anyways, we should prolly resolve this to some sort of agreement that doesn't involve such high-brow sourcing which *isn't* devoid of misinformation, but at the same time let's avoid random guessing as well. Fair game? --Zeromus911 (talk) 19:45, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

You know what? I don't care if I'm acting unpleasant, you people are acting like idiots. I have to handle your attitudes, you can handle mine. You want to add VAs to the article, provide a source, end of story. Actually, there's a prologue to the story - I took this issue over VAs to the Admin help board a while ago, and they not only agreed to keep the sections blank without sourcing, but one of them personally added those warning messages about sourcing the VAs to the article himself. And the kids tells me to do my homework. The Clawed One (talk) 20:22, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I'll also direct you to the last ten comments from section 33 of the talk page down. Considering I have to keep having this conversation what seems like every few days with a new person, I'm tired of doing it and haven't the patience to coddle the guy when he's just going to say the wrong things everyone before him has said. It comes down to this - source the VAs. If you can't, they don't get added because it's just speculation. The Clawed One (talk) 20:31, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to burst your bubble, but there are plenty of articles out there with this same amount of speculation, if not worse. Why haven't you paid any attention to them? What makes this article so special? ...And just what gives you the right to command any authority on here. Last I checked, wikipedia bases it's edit decision on majorities. You think the admins choose this alone? Don't kid yourself. You're trying to ride too high on a pony that you don't even own. All I merely stated was that we should come to a conclusion where we can all agree on, but you continue to poster your non-existant authority. Already one person reported you for acting like a prick. I really doubt another one added to that repetoir helps you in the least bit. --Zeromus911 (talk) 21:46, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't concern myself with articles I don't know much about. I know a lot about this article, I've been following the game's development closely. Hence my interest. And you can keep attacking me and insulting me all you like, doesn't change the facts. Can you people source the VAs, or is it just speculation based on listening to the voices? Wikipedia does not allow speculation, so if that's what we need to discuss then there's no discussion to be had. A majority of people thought for a long time that Doug Erholtz was voicing Squall when we hadn't even heard Squall's voice. Does that mean we should have added it to the article? Harsh truth kid - the majority isn't always right, or even intelligent.

Bottom line is - provide a source for a VA, or don't add it, it's that simple. If you put as much energy into finding those sources instead of complaining about needing them, you may actually have some success. Until you two are ready to provide sources and stop bitching at me for enforcing what the Admins have told me to do, I've nothing more to say to you. The Clawed One (talk) 22:03, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh dear. You've practically just called everyone in here an idiot. Not sourcing articles may make the admins unhappy. But insulting and harassing everyone on here, I'm certain makes them even less happy. I understand where you're coming from, but Jimbo has a point; with voice actors, proper sourcing is unreliable because they tend to change names. Take a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirk_Thornton Do you see the "other names" section? That's why you can't depend on sources when it comes to voice actors. But at the same time, I agree with you that baseless speculation and random guessing is most definitely mis-informative and a waste of time. Which is why I suggest we take a different route with this. Surely that can't be such a huge problem, yes? (this is a rhetorical question, btw...) --Zeromus911 (talk) 22:25, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Dude, don't try talking logically and kindly to this guy. Hes hell bent on his stupid little state of mind, and because of his attitude he was reported. He won't stick around here too long. --JJimbo3 (talk) 22:30, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Did, WHAT DID I JUST SAY!? Sourcing VA's is unreliable since they change names from project to project. If you wanna be the hero of justice, posturing your authority, IF ANY, then you better go out there and fix ALL the articles that have that problem. Until then, stop acting like a child. --JJimbo3 (talk) 22:20, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

So you cannot source the VAs? Well that's a problem. Oh well then, we'll have to wait until the game comes out and the game gives us the cast list. The Clawed One (talk) 22:33, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Did you even read what I said? You are truly beyond help. I really was thinking of doing something that doesn't compromise anyone, but with that high-riding attitude, I'm afraid I can't side with you, or help you with any additional reports. --Zeromus911 (talk) 22:51, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I read what you said, I just don't care. It's a video game, the VA's name will be in the credits of the game and will likely be given elsewhere, the two sources we have so far are proof of that. And even if sources can't be found for them, I've seen the common opinion on who is voicing who. None of the speculated VAs like Johnny Yong Bosch or Christopher Sabat have alternative names, nor do Steve Burton, Richard Newman or George Newbern. Since they have no alternative names, finding who they've voiced ought to be quite simple, so at this point I have no choice but to assume you two are just making excuses for not wanting/being able to find sources.

You're both fairly new, so I understand you have trouble with this, but the fact is if you cannot source something, don't add it to the article. It's that simple. There, you've got five VAs supposedly voicing someone in the game, none of which have any alternative names. If you want to do something productive, try to find reliable sources saying they're in the game. Otherwise, oh well. Stop complaining and making excuses and go do some research. The Clawed One (talk) 23:20, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Also, until one of you actually provides a source to show you've any real interest in finding them, I'm done speaking to you two regardless of topic. The Clawed One (talk) 23:23, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

What you do is your perogative. I haven't made any edits to this article whatsoever, because I agree with you that sources are required. But at the same time you can't disprove the other things as well, which is why I recommend what I recommend. Your attitude will sure piss off even more people to the point of reporting you for harassment, and I'll have no choice but to side with them based on this experience. And lastly...I'm not new. :) I lost the password for my own wiki account, and I haven't used the email linked to it in quite a while, hence I figured creating a new account will be much, much less of a hassle. If you don't want future problems with other users, I suggest you keep in mind that you have zero authority on here. I chose to remain cool and nonchalant about it, but I surmise others will not be so kind and level headed. Now, good day. --Zeromus911 (talk) 23:48, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

This is the kind of personal attacks MOST wikipedians are looking down on. Both Zeromus and Jimbo. Ryou Hashimoto (talk) 00:27, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Are you frickin crazy? This guy was going around harassing people! What the hell did I do here! I never once attacked him! Fuckm Neither me, or whoever! Fuck's sake, I didn't even edit the article! Just threw in a question, and *I* got attacked for it! --JJimbo3 (talk) 01:35, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm a WikiDragon, I don't care about personal attacks or who takes which side. My only concern is the integrity of the article. If I make a couple enemies in the process of defending it, oh well. The Clawed One (talk)!~

What is wrong with you people right put it this way hundreds or possibly thousands of people recognise the voices in this game, Steve Burton is in it no doubt so is George Newbern and the other ones that we know of okay as long as we know who they are putting it in wikipedia doesn't make it true you've just got to wait for the game personally I know whos voicing a lot of these characters but most of them don't confirm themselves so people grow up please. Stevie200 (talk) 10:30, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

People adding VAs to this page need to understand that wikipedia and this page is not just for people who know about final fantasy and the final fantasy universe, new people to this page may not know who voiced who in other games in the series or the film. They may not know who all these people are and if they wanted to check sources to find out, they would find none for most. This would be viewed as a very unprofessional page and may make people disinclined to use wikipedia in the future. If we have to wait for the games release then so be it. Why does the page need these names right now? Dark verdant (talk) 11:33, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

This page doesn't need the names right now like I saidas long as we know who voices the characters then thats all that matters I mean I understand that some of them can't be indentified like Cloud of Darkness has been Identified as Laura Bailey but I've never heard of her and Gabranth doesn't sound like Michael E Rodgers to me he doesn't have thaT accent for a start but if 100,000 people recognise Firion as Johnny Yong Bosch then surely 100,000 people can't all be wrong and for gods sake Cloud is Steve Burton come on I've seen a lot of pages without references for voices and there are no problems there. Stevie200 (talk) 15:15, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

The problem is that if we allow some speculation, people are going to want all of it.

-Some people think Emperor is voiced by Terrence Stone, others by Quintin Flynn

-When the first English trailer came out, people said Zidane was voiced by Sam Riegel. Then suddenly, with no other footage released, people changed their minds and said Bryce Papenbrook

-See above for that debacle over Terra's VA with the IMDB

-Also note that some VAs haven't been identified at large, but everyone has a different guess, like Onion Knight.

This is the problem with speculation, it's speculating and therefore unreliable. The Clawed One (talk) 15:43, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

And THIS is why you don't list highly speculative ones! I was simply referring to the common-frickin-sense category of actors. Apparently, common sense you lack. Tch, fuck's sake. This is why people don't take Wikipedia seriously. Professionalism? Professionalism my ass. You cunts are the direct opposite of it. --JJimbo3 (talk) 20:40, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

So you advise then that we allow some speculation, but not all? On what criteria do we judge which speculation to allow and which not to? This all boils down to one simple point - none of the VAs have been named except by people who recognize their voices. Ergo, the VAs could be anyone, and everyone has their own opinion who it is. What you want is for us to just trust the words of the fans and present information as fact when it may be that the fans are wrong. I'm hearing "well, we should trust the fans to identify a few VAs, but not others". That's favoritism and foolish, because the fans and the majority may be wrong. To prematurely trust their word without any reliable sources to support their claims, that is not professional. The Clawed One (talk) 22:15, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I understand this with characters who have never been voiced by anyone before like Emperor and Onion Knight and especially Zidane but if anything we have all heard Cloud and theres no speculation with his VA and Cecil as well I understand that speculation is unreliable I raised the issue with Bryce Papenbrook however theres one that we can all agree on and thats Cloud's VA. There are of course the ones who we can't quite recognise and I'm talking about Gabranth here he is one where I can say that his VA has clearly changed. Stevie200 (talk) 18:14, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

PSN Demo

Umm, could someone (anyone) break away from the VA debate for a sec and post information on the US Playstation Network demo, released this last friday, Jul 24? I would myself, but I'm not a high enough level user to edit a locked page. Additionally, has anyone seen a full list of characters you can fight against, obviously the PC line-up is Onion Knight, Terra, Cecil, Cloud and Sephiroth in both play modes, but depending on the playmode I've gotten many more opponent char's, thus far Garland, WoL, Firion, CoD, Golbez, neither from V, Kefka, Squall, Zidane, Tidus and Jecht. And if I did this incorrectly, I apologize. Really. Gr3yfxx (talk) 05:15, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

English Voice Actors

The Internet Movie Database (IMDB) has a list of some of the confirmed voice actors in Dissidia. The Warrior of Light, Firion, Cecil, Kefka, Cloud, Sephiroth, Zidane, Tidus, Jecht, and Terra are the only ones listed. Here is the link: [2] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.179.173.225 (talk) 22:28, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

yeah, but it the problem is other than anime certain people deem it unreliable as a source. like the "Jolt's voice being Anthony Anderson"--"I am an oktau and a baka at times but deny proven facts and you got a fight" comment added by Dragonmaster88 (talk • contribs) 22:45, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

IMDB isnt reliable as other people can update it. Best to wait until the game is out and we see the cast list, it really isn't going to hurt the article if the information isn't in here yet. Dark verdant (talk) 07:51, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

If you want proof it isn't reliable - read the third paragraph. That's my Wiki account, BTW. The Clawed One (talk) 15:27, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

You and your proof, clawed one. Play the demo and tell me Sephiroth isn't voiced by George Newbern. Gutted (talk) 16:36, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

It's not a matter of who voices who, it's a matter of proving it. I can't understand why so many people don't get that. The Clawed One (talk) 19:48, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

That would be as they are figures we recognized. Hence the use of. If pages like Naruto use them, especially for major upcoming characters in the dub, we should use them too.Fractyl (talk) 01:55, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

This isn't Naruto, this is Dissidia. Isn't there a policy page for arguments like that? "this page does it so why can't we do it here?" As for recognizing, that doesn't work. If I said I recognize Garland's voice as Dan Green, should I add it to the page? The Clawed One (talk) 02:00, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, like you say, you need to be ABSOLUTE about it and that you're not alone on the matter. But everyone argees that it's Christopher Sabat voicing Garland. Though it's NOT Naruto, we should consider using Anime New Network as it's the closest to an offical source for now.Fractyl (talk) 02:08, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I'm absolutely sure it's Dan Green, and I know several people who agree with me. Let's add it to the article then. The Clawed One (talk) 03:37, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Nope. I have watched shows like Yugioh and DBZ so I can tell the difference between two unique actors like Green and Sabat. Garland's voice is closer to the PS2 DB games' Omega Sheron(minus echo effect) and Piccolo rather than Aten. Even Anime News Network sees it like that and it's a MUCH BETTER source than IMDB.Fractyl (talk) 06:23, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

You're missing the point entirely. If we add information on the basis that "well, a lot of people believe this firmly", then the article becomes subject to interpretation. People with differing opinions will claim it's someone else, and it will end up becoming "well, I recognize it as this guy and my opinion is more reliable than yours". That's what you're doing now, "I can tell it's not Dan Green, it's Chris Sabat". The Clawed One (talk) 06:35, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Not the case, first off I CAN'T just do that without knowing FOR ABSOLUTE CERTAINITY that I'm correct, Anime News Network is such a CERTAINY and before that those who saw the video. Also, you could had mentioned that you were using Dan Green hypotheically there. But in the case of returning characters, it's WAY clear that are revoiced by the same actors from before so we should at least put up, with ANN sources or not.Fractyl (talk) 07:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Once again you miss the point. I'm just gonna stop now. The Clawed One (talk) 07:09, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I can tell you're a fan of Final Fantasy, Clawed one. Would you as a person rather than a wikipedia editor deny that George Newbern is voicing Sephiroth after hearing it in the game? Gutted (talk) 03:54, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

As I've said before, it doesn't matter if he voices Sephiroth or not. What matters is providing a source that proves it's him. The Clawed One (talk) 04:47, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

which means plan and simple you would rather wait until an official listing comes out like IGN?--"I am an oktau and a baka at times but deny proven facts and you got a fight" comment added by Dragonmaster88 (talk • contribs) 05:37, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, a reliable source like IGN would do nicely. Or, seeing as how it's only a few weeks more until the game is released, once it comes out the cast can be taken from the game itself. The Clawed One (talk) 06:23, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

True, But IMBD is not something to sorce as game roles but more as films and show right =^-^=--"I am an oktau and a baka at times but deny proven facts and you got a fight" comment added by Dragonmaster88 (talk • contribs) 08:18, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

IMDB in itself is not a good source for ANYTHING. Information over there is all user-submitted, just like Wikipedia, so anyone could put anything regardless of whether it was true or not. I still remember that for many months, the Zelda: Twilight Princess page said Richard Simmons was playing Tingle and 50 Cent was playing Epona... -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 19:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I am pretty sure you are wrong on it being useless--"I am an oktau and a baka at times but deny proven facts and you got a fight" comment added by Dragonmaster88 (talk • contribs) 20:52, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Cloud of Darkness voice actor confirmed

It's Laura Bailey; she's credited on her website. [3] Gutted (talk) 22:03, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Excellent. Thank you for finding that. The Clawed One (talk) 22:27, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Johnny Young Bosch as Firion

Johnny Young Bosch and Stephanie Sheh were at Otakuthon 2009 back in Montreal. During the conference, somebody asked Stephanie if she was voicing Terra in Dissidia due to rumors. Stephanie, however, denied this rumor BUT Johnny confirmed his role as Firion for the game. I was there when this question was answered, I swear it, no jokes. The thing is, does having hearing a confirmation but not having any material is valable to update this page? (WebJiCi (talk) 21:31, 10 August 2009 (UTC))

I really want to accept this, but I don't think it would count. Even though the VA confirmed in person when asked that it was them, I think that an anime convention Q&A has the same basic problem as the e-mail someone posted above - it can't be verified. I may be wrong though, if someone wants to take it to a higher-up. Thank you for coming forward with this, it's appreciated. The Clawed One (talk) 23:54, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

On the other hand, Gregg Berger was verified as Jecht by asking him about it at BotCon...maybe if someone recorded the panel and put it on YouTube, we could use that as a source. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 19:29, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

This issue is under discussion at RS/N.Fractyl (talk) 06:17, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

SO resolved!

Aliases

From listening to them, it may appear that "Peter Beckman" and "Gerald C. Rivers" are aliases for Anthony Landor and Beau Billingslea.Fractyl (talk) 23:20, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

The latter is very likely not true. Gerald C. Rivers has his own website and doesn't really look like Billingslea at all. As far as Beckman goes, Landor's credits are non-union voice work, while Dissidia is union. It's possibly an alias but it would likely be the other way around. EmperorBrandon (talk) 22:58, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

too much editing

you guys have edit far too much, adding images that are not necessary and changing thhe cover of the dissidia cover. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FAIRUSE clearly states we should not change the cover, we must stick to the oldest one. the oldest oneis the japanese one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.18.134.228 (talk) 14:14, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Seeing as this IS the the English-language version of Wikipedia, it would make far more sense to use the cover of the English version of the game. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 17:19, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I would agree with cyber on this one, they do this kind of thing all they time when something comes out--"I am an oktau and a baka at times but deny proven facts and you got a fight" comment added by Dragonmaster88 (talk • contribs) 17:57, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

loook insisiting the english cover is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemic_bias, we cannot use systemic bias....al;so the point is that there is so much information and so many unneded images...like the calender and all that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.18.134.228 (talk) 22:19, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Fine, then why don't you go re-edit EVERY article for a Japanese game that uses the US cover as the main image, and see how receptive people are to the changes. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 14:33, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

it's rules. wikipedia must follow them...and i'm only saying this because we have the japanese ones....again, that's not the main issue. there are far too many unnecessary images....

uhuh and now you are being bias. =^-^=--"I am an oktau and a baka at times but deny proven facts and you got a fight" comment added by Dragonmaster88 (talk • contribs) 19:07, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

dissidia desktop calender???? and the gamestop cover covers? those are seriously not necessary. they are not needed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.249.176.77 (talk) 15:12, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

these images are not necessary.....

Leaked

Well, as it turns out, the English version of Dissidia has been leaked to various torrent sites. Maybe soon someone can check out the credits and get the full cast list? Gutted (talk) 14:50, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

The info panel on this YouTube video mentions that JD Cullum is the voice of Kuja, as it is stated in the credits... Zidane4028 (talk) 01:02, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

I've been digging around on GameFaqs and came across a gold mine--the full english cast! Of course, this is subject to everyone else's judgement and verification before it can be posted on the article... the message thread and some snapshots of the part of the credits featuring the English cast image1 image2 image3 Zidane4028 (talk) 01:50, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

I would agree with the pics but a forum is not exactly reliable, but that definatly confirms the voice actors--"I am an oktau and a baka at times but deny proven facts and you got a fight" comment added by Dragonmaster88 (talk • contribs) 01:32, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Finally, confirmed beyond a doubt. My thanks to you sir, for bringing these here. At last we can stop the arguing and speculating. I must admit, I feel some smug vindication to see that some of the speculation over VAs was wrong, but that's past now. Thanks again. The Clawed One (talk) 03:03, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Why is there so much damn spoilage in this wiki? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.189.1.106 (talk) 09:44, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Because wiki does not hide ifnromation jus. anything that needs to be said will be said.Bread Ninja (talk) 18:21, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Vandelism

I just reverted a large chunk of vandelism in the character section. I'm not a hardcore wikipedian, so I'm not sure how to trace who did it or note their talk page. Could one of the more serious members address that for me, please?69.241.122.68 (talk) 14:40, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

check 'history' and you can see the IP address or the person's user name who did the vandalism.Bread Ninja (talk) 15:43, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Images

I think some of the images of merchandise are pretty secondary to the subject of the article; per WP:NFCC #3 and #8 we're supposed to limit our non-free content to that which is essential to the article. The images should probably be removed. Thoughts? (ESkog)^(Talk) 14:28, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Agreed, we should remove the calender desktop image and the two covers gamestop is giving out.24.249.176.77 (talk) 16:44, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Name etymology

The name is the plural form of the Latin word dissidium, which means "conflict." The English words dissident and dissidence were derived from the Latin word, both defined as having to do with causing conflicts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.111.1.136 (talk) 03:11, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

There is no such word as "dissidium". And even if there were, this is unsourced and shouldn't be added. The Clawed One (talk) 03:29, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

the problem what that i'm having with the character section is that there is no Japanese nihongo template to go with there names. Like Onion knight, firion, and warrior of light. those names. Why arent they in here? Bread Ninja (talk) 18:18, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Clawed One it's a fact that the word "dissidia" come from the words dissidium and dissident. Look it up 168.9.25.25 (talk) 15:55, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

There is no such word as "dissidia". I don't have to look it up, I'm friends with a guy who speaks Latin. The Clawed One (talk) 19:51, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Character histories interwoven in the storylines

http://thelifestream.net/final-fantasy-vii/1371/dissidia-famitsu-reviews/

I checked the source and it doesn't say that. In fact, the plot is contrary to that thesis: it specifically reveals that all of the characters have amnesia and cannot remember anything about who they were in their respective games. Tcaudilllg (talk) 20:12, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

thats highly unlikely. IN the story, it was revealed only the warrior of light had forgotten his past>Bread Ninja (talk) 19:30, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Final Fantasy Dissidia released on PSN Nov, 5th of 2009.

I'm not the best at editing the wiki's, but I know that Playstation Network now offers FF Dissidia as a digital download, as I've bought it and am downloading it to my PSP go as we speak. Need a wiki-man to get it in there :3

76.185.157.69 (talk) 07:00, 9 November 2009 (UTC)Melkiah

Kain

It's too soon to tell if it's real or not (who remembers the Lightning hoax?), but scans of a magazine showing Kain from FF4 in Dissidia have popped up - http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/5665/wwwdotuporg512655j.jpg. That same scan also shows what appears to be Vivi from FF9. May be a hoax, may be real, either way just posting this here as a FYI to anyone who wants to follow this. The Clawed One (talk) 03:27, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Yikes

Re-reading the old entries, man I was an asshole before this game came out. Sincere, blanket apology to the people I insulted back then, I was in a bad place at the time but that doesn't excuse how I acted. The Clawed One (talk) 16:01, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Cover Image

I'm not sure it's entirely appropriate to refer to the image used in the article as the "NA/EU/AUS" cover; the "T for Teen" classification system is not used outside the US, so it's technically the US cover. It may be better to simply refer to it as such. Kelvingreen (talk) 14:16, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Article naming

I'm a little confused here: is there a colon or is there not? The sequel's article excludes the colon, and so do both games' websites. Despatche (talk) 13:17, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Square Enix consistently calls the game "Dissidia Final Fantasy" in their publications, such as their webspace dedicated to it: [4]. I would be in favor of moving the article to the title without the colon.--Atlan (talk) 21:45, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I agree. There's no need for that annoying colon since it's not part of the game's name, and those darn users who did that should also know that Final Fantasy is not even a subtitle, it's a series of originally role-playing games.

I don't get it why some users put that colon for FF games that have the game's subtitle on the left and Final Fantasy on the right of its name. Kyrios320 (talk) 13:17, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

because in japan, the names are placed with tildes instead of colons....And various other sources replace with a colon.Bread Ninja (talk) 15:33, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Gameplay image constantly changing

Why is the image of the gameplay constantly changing?Lucia Black (talk) 01:56, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

It changed just once because it was from a demo.Tintor2 (talk) 02:23, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

it actually changed several time in its early stages. Regardless, this is the 4th image. Hopefully ts the last.Lucia Black (talk) 02:46, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

The same reason to change it. It's from the actual game.Tintor2 (talk) 03:26, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

i'm just saying I've seen t change several times. And that this should be the last one.Lucia Black (talk) 03:32, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Dissidia Final Fantasy/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: ProtoDrake (talk · contribs) 18:11, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

OK. I've gone over it in detail and compared it against the Good Article Criteria. Generally okay and well-written, but a few quibbles. --ProtoDrake (talk) 18:11, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Lead

• Quite good, except for "the player control the ten warriors chosen by Cosmos". There's a rather glaring grammatical error there. It should be "controls" not "control". Simple to correct.

Plot#Story

• Well written, apart from "In the end, finding themselves in World A, the other warriors return to their respective worlds while the Warrior of Light embarks on another adventure, while Cosmos revives to reign over World B". Sounds rather clunky when you read it.

Developement

• I would change "was" or "were" in the part of the first sentence that says "while the Square Enix staff was developing Kingdom Hearts II".

Reception#Reviews

• A: "when things get hectic", might I suggest "got hectic".
• B: "praised the fighting system and visuals with the latter commenting on the mix of RPG and action gameplay", might do with a comma between "visuals" and "with".
• C: "The story resulted in mixed reactions as GameSpot stated that it would only interest fans from the franchise while 1UP noted it included multiple references from previous games." Some extra punctuation needed, because sentence seems too long in its current form.
• D: "In contrast to most reviewers, Game Informer was more critical citing issues with the gameplay [..]" Again, punctuation needed.

Ok I fixed those issues, thanks for finding them. Is there anything else? Judgesurreal777 (talk) 18:44, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Second pass

• Nothing, either in the references or the text. It qualifies.

Sold over 1.8 million

Sold over 1.8 million: http://release.square-enix.com/news/j/2011/01/zy0hul0ed.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brayden96 (talk • contribs) 18:36, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

18 October 2015

It was transferred from Talk:Warrior of Light due to the creation of a new article, which is not related to the topic --Yaraslau Zubrytski (talk) 18:43, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

If someone could rework this, that'd be great.

At this point, the Warrior of Light is just as famous as Cloud is, he deserves his own page. Jmanghan (talk) 16:13, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

please see WP:NOTABILITY, and seek to demonstrate that this character is in fact "famous", as indicted by significant coverage in multiple reliable independent sources. --Animalparty! (talk) 17:20, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

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