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Pic of Punk drinking

I've read people refering to a pic of Punk with a beer in his hand. Can anyone confirm if this is true?? --Endlessdan 14:06, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I know that I've seen pictures of Punk with a cup of Pepsi in his hand, but have never seen a cup of beer in his hand. --64.252.90.136 08:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

The picture that people are refering to is from the 15th Anniversary RAW special. At the end a majority of wreslters all came out to the ring to celebrate 15 years of RAW. Most of the wrestlers were drinking beer, I believe it was Miller I just know it was a blue can. Several people had alternate beverages Punk is confirmed to have been drink a Pepsi, Regal had a Coca-cola, and some one had water. The blue pepsi can and blue beer are very similar which created the rumor of him drinking. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RavynChloe (talk • contribs) 16:29, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

thats true. can't remember what show it was for, i think maybe the WWE radio channel, regardless, Cody Rhodes had gone on the record as saying that several wrestlers who never were drinkers like cm punk or who stopped drinking like he has had alternative beverages @ the anniversary show. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.139.197 (talk) 01:16, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

anaconda vice

does he still do it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.226.24.105 (talk) 21:42, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Nope. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 22:00, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

He does but its more like a backup Finisher if G.T.S doent work ,like Jeff Jarrett ,how he use Acoustic Equalizer / El Kabong (Guitar broken over the opponent's head).

Old Finishing moves

Punk no longer uses the Pepsi Plunge or the Anaconda Vise. Based on other articles, I thought clarifying this by putting dates when they were used after the move name was standard practice. Am I wrong? Nenog reverted my edits in this regard. Is this against the MOS or am I missing something else? Gavyn Sykes (talk) 20:22, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

The real problem is the incorrect dates that are usually placed - Punk used the Vice in the indies from 2005 until EARLY 2007 (he didn't debut the GTS as soon as 2007 rolled around) and used the Plunge from 2001 until Punk: The Final Chapter in 2005. I have no problem with the adding of dates, but the major issue is that most of his name signatures need dates as well and I am trying to think of a way to add them without them looking ugly. –– Lid^(Talk) 03:00, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Finisher: GTS Link

The link after "G.T.S. – Go To Sleep" doesn't seem to go to the right place in the page. I believe capitalising the 's' for 'sleep' should fix this. (Professional_wrestling_attacks#Go_2_Sleep) (90.203.60.229 (talk) 18:10, 13 February 2008 (UTC))

It works fine for me. Nenog (talk) 18:18, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

High importance?

I disagree here. He's a notable indy wrestler and has had two years or so in WWE. That's not enough to give him high importance, especially when an article like Dave Bautista is rated Low. Batista is probably much more well known than Punk and in my opinion (though I do dislike Batista) more important than Punk. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 18:51, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree, in fact I didn't like it getting raised to "mid" importance in the first place as I saw it as being excessive. –– Lid^(Talk) 20:53, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

I was going to argue for a low importance myself. Maybe mid, but that's pushing it. Gavyn Sykes (talk)

I'm with you guys. He's getting closer to Mid, with his success in WWE, but he might still be Low. Definitely not High. - Geoffg (talk) 06:27, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

i would agree. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigguy1111 (talk • contribs) 23:50, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

andaconda vise

why dosen't he do the andaconda vise any more —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.43.57 (talk) 21:51, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a forum. --Cheers, LAX 21:53, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Why ?

Why is there no mention of Punk cracking his skull open and refusing to take meds? I think this is important because it shows how true he is to being straight-edge and shows his dedication to it. Herotastic (talk) 03:22, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

King of the Ring

I think that in that where it says that he made it to the finals of the King of the Ring it should also be mentioned that he defeated Matt Hardy and Chris Jericho in the process. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.234.51.180 (talk) 01:00, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

"Mr. Money in the Bank"

This is awful petty on my part, but technically, CM Punk is just the current holder of the Money in the Bank case. He's not "Mr. Money in the Bank." That name was used by Rob Van Dam who was known as "Mr. Monday Night" and "Mr. Pay-Per-View" when he was actively wrestling. They used "Mr. Money in the Bank" when he won at WM 23. CM Punk isn't "Mr. Money in the Bank." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.80.65 (talk) 07:00, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree but it was WM 22 not 23... just thought id say that.166.217.73.14 (talk) 20:58, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

No. Mr. Money in the Bank were also used by Edge, Kennedy and Punk after RVD's reign as Mr. Money in the Bank.

Proof of CM Punk being called Mr. Money in the Bank:

[1], [2], [3],

[4],

and most importantly: his bio Feedback ^☎ 04:50, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Fourth, not third

Punk is the fourth wrestler to win the WWE/World Heavyweight and ECW Titles, not the third. Before him were RVD, Big Show, and Vince Mcmahon. (Sawyer (talk) 03:45, 1 July 2008 (UTC))

Actually he is the first to win the World Heavyweight and ECW Championship. The World Heavyweight (WWE) isn't the same titles that Big Show, RVD, and Vince held. They all held the WWE. No one before has won those two titles besides Punk.--WillC 04:15, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Aren't you both forgetting Kane? He completed that criteria before Punk, having held a WWE World Title before Punk did. But it's not really important anyways, just pointing something out.

Donco (talk) 18:36, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Kane held the WWE Championship. Not the World Heavyweight, so he would go with RVD, Show and Vince. So it is 4 to have held both WWE and ECW Championships. And 1 to hold the World and ECW championships.--DanteAgusta (talk) 20:59, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Theme Music

Why is CM Punk's WWE theme music not listed? There isn't even a section for that to be listed in his theme music area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.201.172.139 (talk) 04:31, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Please read the entire article first. There is a theme music section. See here. -- iMatthew _T.C. 01:52, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, there is a section for Theme Music, but only subsections for Full Impact Pro, Major League Wrestling, IWA Mid South, Ring of Honor, and St. Pauls Championship Wrestling. There is NO WWE theme subsection, and no mention of his current theme This Fire Burns by Killswitch Engage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.201.172.139 (talk) 22:01, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Then why don't you just add it? 170.69.248.21 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 13:43, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

It is listed, look under the World Wrestling Entertainment section. –– Lid^(Talk) 22:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I dont see the edit button on his main page but last time I saw him in Ring of Honor he was using the song 'Cop' by Alkaline Trio as his intro song.--99.140.168.62 (talk) 05:26, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Punk's Trainers

In Punk's 'Statistics' section he is listed as having been trained by Dave Taylor, Fit Finlay and William Regal. The source for this is an interview with Punk in which he says:

'One night the crowd was down and the Smart Mark Video guys didn’t tape the show, so I told Ian [Rotten] I wanted to do a time limit draw with [Chris] Hero for the belt. He was cool with it and I told him I wanted to go an hour just to see if we could do it. Before that match we trained with Dave Taylor, Fit Finlay and William Regal to prepare for it.'

From this I get the impression that he was merely doing conditioning training, rather than being taught fundamentals of the wrestling business. Even if this isn't the case (and I appreciate my interpretation isn't the only one,) I don't believe that a very brief amount of time spent preparing for a single match (well after Punk's professional debut) constitutes 'training.' By this token, someone like Raven would also have to be cited as a 'trainer' since, according to Punk in the same interview, 'he has taught me so much. I am completely fortunate to have been taken under his wing. He will freely admit to me being his protégé... I have so much to learn and I am fortunate to have him as my teacher.'

92.22.70.175 (talk) 15:19, 25 July 2008 (UTC) Blake Campbell

Pic of CM Punk getting his hair pulled.

The picture doesn't look like it has any real importance and should probably be removed.Killhammer (talk) 14:48, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Title defences

Since winning the World Heavyweight title, Punk has successfully defended against Batista.

Shortman81 (talk) 05:36, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

SO?--WillC 05:49, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

To expand on that, his title defense was non-notable, since it wasn't a huge feud and didn't result in anything real big. So it's not notable per WP:N and also WP:RECENTISM. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 15:32, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Should there be an image of him as World Champ? WiiTendo2 (talk) 14:52, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

If an image can be found that complies with Wikipedia's image guidelines, then yes. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 16:49, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

I read serveral WWE pages we should've new policy Gavyn Sykes's WrestlingWiki Rules

- Whatever Gavyn think is alway wright.

- If Gavyn said it's not important means it will be reversed back to old version.

- If Gavyn said it's week by week and non-notable means it will be reversed back to old version.

- If you didn't agree with Gavyn Sykes please read first rule again.

Sorry Gavyn, I know you've good faith but I think your judgement is very nonsenese sometime. In this case vs Batista, vs JBL is not important to you. It doesn't mean other guys must see it like you.

I respect you for your work but please listen to other guy.Pitejung (talk) 08:44, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Please read WP:N and WP:RECENTISM. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 16:47, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Gavyn Sykes word is not the end all to be all of of Wikipedia wrestling editors. But if you want to make note of title defences that were not really anything than you could have it worded like: "Brooks than defended the title against a number of opponents over the next few weeks. Than so and so became the next big challenge put in front of Brooks..." or something like that. That way you can satisfy all editors. Mr. C.C. (talk) 19:59, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

CM Punk On Smackdown

I have been trying to look up information on CM Punk debuting on Smackdown before going to ECW. I do remember CM Punk being on Smackdown doing a few jobs before going to ECW. But again I haven't been able to find any information on it. Mr. C.C. (talk) 19:49, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

If I recall correctly, this was the April 7 edition of Smackdown in 06, and he lost to The Gemini. Feedback ^☎ 20:11, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

It was the Talent exhange NO Duh-WWE Fana —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wwe.fana (talk • contribs) 07:45, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Copyedit in progress

PXK from WP:PW asked me to copyedit this article in preparation for FA status. I'll post any issues I'm not comfortable addressing here when I'm finished. --*momoricks* (talk) 23:14, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

I've finished copyediting the article. I placed inline tags next to the few things that need citations and clarification, such as jargon terms. Please remember that this is an encyclopedia that should be accessible to everyone. Jargon needs to be wikilinked, if possible, or thoroughly explained when it is used.

I did some rewording for grammar/clarity in the ROH/TNA section, so feel free to look it over to make sure it still says what it means. I noticed the section is a bit hard to get through. Perhaps splitting it up into ROH & TNA subsections would help.

Danny Dominion and Kevin Quinn are important to Punk's early career; however, they don't have articles. If someone has time to create them, that would add to this article.

Congratulations to all the contributors. This is looking good. momoricks ^talk 04:38, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Neither Danny Dominion nor Kevin Quinn are notable in ther own right enough for an article, they are effectively only notable for who they trained in the Steel Domain. In regards to "in preparation for FA status" I need to note this article is FA, it's just due to becomes TFA later in October. –– Lid^(Talk) 05:24, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Only person to hold the WHC & ECW Championship?

"Punk became the only person to hold both the World Heavyweight and ECW Championships." Technically, I could agree as far as when the WCW World Championship became known as the World Championship - the whole Alliance Chris Jericho Undisputed angle back in 2001 - but doesn't the World Heavyweight championship legacy include WCW history? If so, then The Big Show should be included with those who won the World & ECW Championships. 65.43.96.3 (talk) 17:32, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Other than using the same design as the WCW World Championship, the World Heavyweight Championship is considered a separate title entirely. On a side note, I think the whole "only person to hold title of Promotion A and title of Promotion B" is useless trivia. Nenog (talk) 01:38, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Fastest Triple Crown Ever?

Could it be said in his article that he is the fastest WWE Triple Crown Winner at 6 months and 19 days? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.27.242.227 (talk) 06:30, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I just put that on the article and that he beat Kevin Nash's Triple Crown Championship record. --Geekboy6 (talk) 04:32, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

unreliable source and trivia. I removed it. You need a reliable source for these things. Simon^KSK 01:09, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

All you have to do is add up the number of days of existing champions. It's no different than stating the youngest or oldest champion. TJ Spyke 01:11, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Fan picture

Is the picture of him with a fan really adding anything to the picture? I don't quite know what it is about it, but it just feels excessive. Also if someone knows how to import things from Flickr this is quite a good picture of him [winning the http://www.flickr.com/photos/chicago38/3217001108/in/set-72157612862337126/ IC Championship]. Tony2Times (talk) 15:37, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

You would need to get the permission of the person who took the pic (since they own the copyright to it). After that you can upload it the same way you would any other pic. TJ Spyke 21:51, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Done. Mshake3 (talk) 03:57, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Political affiliation

In WWE magazine in October, they had an article about whom the wrestlers endorsed in the US presidential election. If sourced, should we put down Punk's affiliation in personal life? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.61.45.249 (talk) 01:09, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

In my opinion, no. He wasn't active in his support. In general we don't mention stuff like this in articles (not just wrestler articles) unless they were very active; like Ron Howard and Andy Griffith reprising their roles from The Andy Griffith Show to support Barack Obama. TJ Spyke 01:14, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Wondering

Due to the booing the crowd did at Punk after he cashed in his Money In The Bank does it could mean a heel turn? Perhaps we should wait until next friday.--Senkris (talk) 14:43, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

It's not relevant to the article until it actually happensUnopeneddoor (talk) 15:37, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

This is not a message board, it's for discussing improvements to the article. Why the crowd was dead (remember that it was after a great ladder match and the PPV had gone on for almost 3 hours at this point) is not relevant. TJ Spyke 15:49, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, we just need to wait until the SD spoilers come out on Tuesday night. That will give us our answer. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 23:30, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, very sorry if I created such a hullabaloo. I was just wondering if he had gone heel. Sorry.--Senkris (talk) 12:52, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

We'll have to wait for RAW next week, to see if he has turned heel. Y2J The Evil Twin (talk) 09:12, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

CM Punk turned heel on the July 31st episode of Smackdown after attacking Jeff Hardy after his title defense against John Morrison —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.141.253.94 (talk) 16:08, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

CM Punk turned Heel after attacting Jeff Hrady after his World title match withn John Morrison —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.141.253.94 (talk) 16:11, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

He turned heel the week before that. TJ Spyke 16:16, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Caps

Changed world champion to World Champion, as it is a specific/proper title/noun. --Dustythecat (talk) 02:05, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

When referring to world titles in general, it is NOT a proper noun. It is only a proper noun if it's referring to the World Heavyweight Championship (i.e. the title currently held by Jeff Hardy). TJ Spyke 02:55, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Hardy vs. Morrison???

"The Friday Night SmackDown after Night of Champions, Hardy defended his newly won World Heavyweight Championship against John Morrison." What does that have to do with CM Punk? -- 79.204.63.37 (talk) 12:51, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Not sure how that got in there. Removed. Thanks. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 20:10, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Relationship with Maria

Recently, CM Punk and Maria got back together, which should be notable to add in his personal life section. I found it out when Maria Kanellis confirmed it through her Facebook page. Kill The Shadows —Preceding undated comment was added at 21:49, 12 December 2008 (UTC).

Maria is not back with CM Punk, she said in a recent incident with Opie and Anthony that she's dating a cameraman, it was initially thought he was a cameraman with WWE, but that may not be the case. The interview can be heard at this link http://maria-kanellis.org/2008/12/17/maria-on-opie-anthony/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.0.21.28 (talk) 21:01, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

and Cm punks confirmed hes dating amy dumas lita —Preceding unsigned comment added by Samtherofl (talk • contribs) 06:38, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

No he hasn't. TJ Spyke 15:06, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

CM Punk and Lita

According to cmpunk.com there was a message that CM Punk and Lita (Edge's and Matt Hardy's former girlfriend) are dating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.24.110.83 (talk) 04:02, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Can you provide the exact link? I don't see any mention of Lita on the site. TJ Spyke 04:40, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

This was reported in The Sun. I don't know if that's an accurate-enough source for Wikipedia but here's the link -- http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/wrestling/2631597/CM-Punk-is-dating-Lita.html Shrilldrella (talk) 20:01, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

see i told you all —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.24.110.35 (talk) 02:44, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

And? You want a cookie? TJ Spyke 02:52, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

small problem here folks, the "source" that claims they were together in the first place was an unverified, anonymous rumor. neither punk nor lita ever confirmed this. also, matt hardy's comment was that he didn't know or care if they were dating, but that he didn't care either way if they were. The article's full excerpt about it: Hardy also stated that his ex-girlfriend Lita is not dating C.M. Punk. "CM Punk and Lita aren't dating right now," said Hard. "I don't have a problem with CM Punk either way, but that's not even true. They were definitely friends, hanging out for a little while, but I know they're not now."

also punk claims to have been misquoted by maxim (having trouble finding the retraction but i know there is one) and just joked about it ("dating" beth)afterward. beth also denied it more than once, saying, "we were once really close friends, but people change."

Wrist Tape

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As was just revealed on WXDX today, CM Punks Wrist Tape marked with the Xs is in relation to the Straight Edge Punk Band Minor Threat, due to the fact that they were under the age of 21 when they started doing gigs and all the gigs that they could do in New York were in bars, and thus they couldn't perform as Alcohol was served. They were in turn invited to play some shows in California and were scheduled to play a bar, when they got there they thought they were not going to be able to play but the owner put X's on the back of their hands to show they were unable to drink alcohol. The band brought this back to New York and it was adopted as a symbol of the Straight Edge crowd. (Owyn999 (talk) 06:09, 24 October 2009 (UTC))

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. GrooveDog • i'm groovy. 17:25, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

"One at a time"

Has there been any word on whether or not those "fans" he's saving "one at a time" are actual crowd members or plants? GeneticInsanity (talk) 01:33, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

I will look to see if any reliable sources know, but my guess is plants. On this weeks episode of SmackDown Punk pointed into the audience and someone about 10 rows back stood up. There was no way a real fan would have known Punk was pointing to him from that far back. TJ Spyke 01:38, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

That was my guess from the start, as I seriously doubt WWE would allow one of their employees to force a crowd member to shave their head, but some verification would be nice.GeneticInsanity (talk) 17:30, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Both James (Ted McNailer) and Serena (Serena Deeb) are prospects from OVW/FCW, so yes, they're flat-out plants. The same is likely true for any audience member Punk may shorn at house shows as WWE's been doing as well. Papacha (talk) 10:09, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Signature Moves?

I've noticed several signature moves of his missing. 1. Two open hand slaps, a spinning back fist and then a round house kick to the head. 2. When he used the Anaconda Vise as his finisher he used the open handed slaps, spinning back fist etc. followed by a urinage. I was just wondering if they should be included in the list since he did use them at one time (urinage in 2006-early 07) and still does occasionally (open handed slaps etc.) (Younghelper33)9:58, 3 February 2010—Preceding unsigned comment added by Younghelper33 (talk • contribs) 02:56, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Theme song in ROH

Brooks also used "Cult of Personality" by Living Colour in ROH as his entrance theme. That was after he won the ROH World Title and turned heel. --79.204.63.217 (talk) 19:41, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

American Atheists

I'm pretty sure CM Punk really is an atheist. Didn't he say this quote, "There is no God, and the cage is 20 feet."? You didn't really need to remove him from this category. I don't think putting him back in would be insulting. --Geekboy6 (talk) 04:32, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Sticky subjects like religion need to be sourced. Saying he is atheist would be like saying he's Jewish or Catholic or Muslim (or any other religion), it needs to be sourced to go in the article. TJ Spyke 04:52, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

See the only problem with that is that you challenged the TJ the King of Wikipedia. Big mistake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.121.52.2 (talk) 15:28, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

No, he challenged WP:RS and WP:BLP, don't get upset IP because you don't want to follow policies and guidelines. TJ Spyke 17:12, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't think he's an atheist. According to wikiquote, he had ever say "God forbid if you have your face painted". --60.49.80.165 (talk) 12:11, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Beside, he grows his hair and beard long and it was said to be an allusion to Christian view of Jesus. If he doesn't believe in God, why is he bother to allude Jesus.--60.49.80.165 (talk) 12:14, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

I will assume you don't watch him on TV, his current gimmick is that he sees himself as a messiah basically (that it is his divinf destiny to go around saving people). Besides, you don't have to believe in something to use it in a gimmick (see when The Undertaker started becoming more satanic in 1998/1999). TJ Spyke 20:09, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 67.81.232.219, 5 June 2010

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He began wearing a luchador mask...not a matador mask as stated in the current article...needs to be changed to luchador mask from the incorrect statement matador mask 67.81.232.219 (talk) 00:49, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —fetch·comms 01:46, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

He wants you to change the thing that says CM Punk began wearing a matador mask so it says that he began wearing a luchador mask. 70.119.54.117 (talk) 20:33, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Straight Edge Society

Can someone start a page on the straight edge society —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.32.150.159 (talk) 20:10, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Can someone then mention/bold the name "Straight Edge Society" on his profile, considering that's the major angle he's been doing for the better part of 4 months? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Catatonic1221 (talk • contribs) 17:43, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I believe the page should be started up soon for this stable since they have been a major part of the Smackdown brand for this whole year so far. TacoTank69 (talk) 08:33, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

New tattoo

Punk has a new tattoo now. He has "ROMANCE<3" on his knuckles. The second part of the knuckles. MaraquanWocky (talk) 02:44, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

CM Punk's Picture

We definitely need to change his picture now. He doesn't look a thing like that anymore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.119.54.117 (talk) 16:13, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

I tried changing it myself but it turns out I don't actually know how. I think picture would be perfect: http://cmpunk.com/images/displayimage.php?album=718&pos=0 wondered if somebody could actually make it happen?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.146.103.245 (talk) 15:01, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

We can't use copyrighted pictures. Someone owns that picture, Wiki doesn't. Tony2Times (talk) 18:28, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Attacks on Cena

I believe the attacks on John Cena should be added to the page. That is all. 74.129.253.192 (talk) 18:02, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Weekly events shouldn't be added as they may amount to nothing. A month or two ago people added that CM Punk commentated a match with Daniel Bryan because it looked like they were gonna feud, then it was aborted as can often happen in wrestling. Until something substantial's happened, it's not notable. Tony2Times (talk) 18:20, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Tony2Times here. ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② 21:13, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

He's attacked him twice in one week, you really think it shouldn't be added? Not even, "Punk turned heel on such and such date by attacking John Cena with a steel chair, then following it up with another attack the next night"? 74.129.253.192 (talk) 06:21, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Not a week ago, people were insisting he had turned face. You begin to see the problem with such edits based purely on POV and speculation? We also do not add week-by-week events. This is why it is constantly and consistently reverted. This is an encyclopedia, not a news source. ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② 08:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

In that case, someone should remove where it says "After commentating on both superstars and raw, Punk joined Nexus. 74.129.253.192 (talk) 20:51, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request on 8 January 2013 In the section WWE Champion (2011–2013)

Please change "Despite his injury, Punk became the longest reigning WWE Champion on December 5, when he hit 381 days, surpassing John Cena's 380 day reign." to "Despite his injury, Punk became the longest reigning WWE Champion of the modern era on December 5, when he hit 381 days, surpassing John Cena's 380 day reign because it is not true. CM Punk, of course, is the longest reigning WWE Champion, but of the modern era, i.e., for these 25 years. Therefore, I suggest that the information should be edited and changed to avoid any kind of confusion. TheABPunk 08:03, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

I've corrected the article. NiciVampireHeart 04:09, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Notability of fan altercation

Would it be worth mentioning the time that Punk mistakenly decked the wrong fan that time he entered the stands? Comparisons could be made to the Pacers–Pistons brawl when Artest mistakenly charged someone who didn't throw a drink at him (allowing the guy who did throw the diet coke, Green, to attack him).

This may happen a lot in various sports but I imagine more often in Pro Wrestling. If not a mention on Punk's page, perhaps an article about these altercations in general (emphasis on wrestling) could be made. Ranze (talk) 22:27, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Edit Request

"Punk ... is officially recognized as the sixth-longest reigning champion of all time," actually, Punk is the FIFTH longest reigning champion, with the sixth longest reign, as Bruno Sammartino is listed twice in the top five championship reigns. So I request the edit be made to either "fifth-longest reigning champion" or "sixth-longest championship reign." Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.176.147.249 (talk) 18:07, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

CM Punk Face Turn 2013

Ever since CM Punk returned on June 16th at the WWE Pay per view Payback, he has showed signs of a face turn due to the fact that Paul Heyman disturbed Punk during his match against Chris Jericho and therefore Punk being dissapointed with Heyman. Furthermore, on the following episode of Money night Raw, Punk confronted the newly turned heel Alberto Del Rio. This further cemented Punk's face turn since it meant more dispute between Heyman and Punk, as Heyman was referring Punk to be his 'client' whereas Punk claimed that he was just Heyman's friend, which gained more of a positive reaction from e fans. Punk's face turn was mostly cemented when after the match with Del Rio, Brock Lesnar returned and attacked Punk. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Best Dazzler (talk • contribs) 16:13, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Payback was in his hometown of course he received a face reaction and had face mannerisms. What you would be adding would be original research. Wait and if it happens it can be be added. Wikipedia is also not a forum. STATic message me! 17:57, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 24 June 2013

Mohamadzawawi (talk) 15:32, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

 Not done – No request made. — Richard BB 15:35, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 21 August 2013

Make the Brock Lesnar vs. CM Punk a 5 star match, please! on Wrestling Observer Newsletter. CM "Best In The World" Punk (talk) 06:13, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

 Not done — Richard BB 06:36, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 13 September 2013

hello , please add a vertical suplex on cm punks moveset because he uses this move alot

thanks Ahmed32917 (talk) 19:42, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. NiciVampireHeart 19:51, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 14 September 2013

add a snap suplex on cm punks moveset he uses it alot if you want proof go to youtube and write cm punk snap suplex and see he uses it and i see him doing it alot as well

thanks Ahmed32917 (talk) 16:12, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

That constitutes original research. Seeing a move on YouTube isn't considered a reliable source. — Richard BB 22:13, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Also keep in mind that we have a list of signature or finishing moves here, not a complete moveset. Things like vertical/snap suplexes are quite basic moves that most professional wrestlers of the last half-century commonly use. Remember, even a short match can have twenty moves, and a wrestler like Punk has 8-10 matches per month, some quite long. A match needs basic moves to fill between the opening bell, signature spots and finish. A wrestler cannot invent new moves for each match, so must repeat things like suplexes, armdrags, dropkicks and chops (among many other).

What you'll need is a source calling a move of his a signature/trademark/favourite or similar. Something like this or this. A match review from a reliable source which says something like "Punk hits his signature suplex" would also be OK. But a review which says "Punk hits a suplex" would not, even if you have a thousand of those. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:29, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Edit Request: Steel Domain Training School

The trainers at the Steel Domain Training School WERE Ace Steel & Danny Dominion. There is no need to list "Steel Domain Training School" as a trainer if you have Ace Steel and Danny Dominion 173.70.62.121 (talk) 02:07, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Done I have to agree, especially because the name of the school is referenced in the article anyway. Antoshi ☏ ★ 15:42, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Who Punk is dating

It seems that every month someone new is reported that Punk is dating. Do we really need to include this information? Whether it's Lita, someone from ROH, Lita again, and now apparently AJ, it seems we're in danger of becoming a celebrity magazine. Plus, I'm not so sure the websites, which seem to base themselves on rumour, can be considered reliable sources. Can we do away with this gossip column? — Richard BB 16:30, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

I agree. Everything without a proper source should go in the first place, but Wikipedia is not a tabloid (per WP:BLP), so every single relationship he's had shouldn't be detailed. If he's had notable long term relationships then those can probably stay.LM2000 (talk) 20:45, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Instead of all the little reports of they broke up in..., they started dating in..., because frankly we do not know exactly when, just when it was discovered/reported. Whichever relationships are sourced to have happened, we can say in the article, "Over his career Punk has dated various female wrestlers (or divas) such as __, __ and ___." That would significantly cut down on the puff that was already there. When it was removed were any of the relationships backed by reliable sources? STATic message me! 16:29, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

I agree with Static's idea. I would suppose his dating life is somewhat notable but as said above, Wikipedia is not a tabloid. Antoshi ☏ ★ 17:02, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

One of Wikipedia's best articles? Really!?

Ya gotta be kidding? Why there's more detail in our article on Winston Churchill than I can find here on the legendary Punk. WP:DUE, broadly understood, should dictate that we need to go into far more detail on major "sports-entertainment" figures, than we do on seminal figures in world political history. Badmintonhist (talk) 21:12, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

If you have a problem with its FA status, then create an FA review. Otherwise, I don't see how coming to the article's talk page to voice your bewilderment benefits the article in any way. Antoshi ☏ ★ 21:29, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Sounds like you should be bringing your complaints to Winston Churchill if they are lacking major details on that article. Unless you have explicit constructive suggestions, then I don't know what to tell you about this particular article. The only section that I think needs trimming is the paragraph on his love life, which has been discussed previously but no changes were ever made.LM2000 (talk) 21:39, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Let's not feed the trolls, lads. He's been posting similar drivel in other wrestling articles. — Richard BB 22:01, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

I disagree. I think this is one of the best WWE articles on Wikipedia that has tons of details about Punk and his characteristics, and pictures where they should be. Loads of other WWE pages have some omissions, grammar issues and lack spacing, but not Punk's.PeterMan844 (talk) 02:55, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 March 2014

On the March 3 Raw, WWE acknowledged Punk's absence on television when the show started with Punk's entrance music playing, only for former manager Paul Heyman to come out and claim that Punk was not at Raw. Despite that, Punk's hometown crowd of Chicago continued to chant for Punk for the rest of the show, but Punk ultimately did not appear that night AdithyaMS (talk) 17:08, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not cited a reliable source to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 17:31, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 April 2014

On March 31, 2014 back in WWE (3 years contract). 78.58.116.241 (talk) 16:03, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. (t) Josve05a (c) 16:24, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 April 2014

CM Punk is Engaged to AJ Lee. Source: http://archive.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=3443093573001 Petegr8 (talk) 02:47, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Already done Anupmehra -Let's talk! 20:18, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

No it isn't. It says they're in a relationship, not that they're engaged. Antoshi ☏ ★ 20:25, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 April 2014

Morris 52 code (talk) 15:39, 17 April 2014 (UTC) Have a request about the CM in CM punk it states in WWE CM Punk best in the world DVD that it stands for Chicago Made, Punk says so hiself.

Punk has stated that it no longer stands for anything. The original acronym stood for "Chick Magnet", but now when asked he gives a variety of answers, all of which are listed in the article. — Richard BB 17:00, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 May 2014

Hello guys and fellow editors, I call my self the Potatomaster. I am here to make a polite request, if I am given permission I will make legit edits. I will not clown around with anything, and if I were to make edits they would probably be not major changes. Please take my request in consideration.

Many Thanks,

Potatomaster :)

Potatomaster12 (talk) 00:36, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Well, you messed up the formatting already, but that's alright. In the future, indent with a colon, not a space.

An edit request is for asking for a specific edit. If you'd like to edit, all you need to do is make a few more edits around Wikipedia on non-protected pages. Then you'll become an "autoconfirmed user", and can do anything you'd like here (within the rules). InedibleHulk (talk) 00:58, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Not done

Edit request May 29th 2014

After months of silence, Phil Brooks has officially announced his retirement to the Chicago Red Eye. Source. Kattastrophic (talk) 22:35, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

He doesn't say he's retired. The interviewer is the one who says he is retired, though Punk says nothing of the sort. He is under WWE contract until July.LM2000 (talk) 04:41, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Aye. Punk "certainly didn't side-step the issue and seemed comfortable/affirmative about their insinuation that he has retired, but let's not forget how loose the term has become in professional wrestling." My emphasis, someone else's words. Only the ladder is real! InedibleHulk (talk) 22:24, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Edit Request 17th June 2014

could you maybe add Spouse: April Jeanette Mendez under punk's picture? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KingZeko (talk • contribs) 11:51, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Edit semi protected page

Photo Ajaryanxyz73 (talk) 09:26, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Edit request

Photo of cm punk

Ajaryanxyz73 (talk) 09:29, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Maybe. But first you need to suggest one that fits with our image use policy and share it here. We already have some photos. If you're actually requesting one of those, just right click it and save it. Everything on Wikipedia is meant to be free to readers, which is why we can't use owned work from strangers. InedibleHulk (talk) 13:53, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

I put a source, but my thing still got deleted.

Ok, this morning, i got a message, on an edit where I put in that alberto del rio said that cm punk will be back soon:

Please do not add or change content, as you did to CM Punk, without verifying it by citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. STATic message me! 17:51, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

My reply:

Uh, i did put in a source. It quoted what Alberto Del Rio said in an interview, with a link to it on the page. That counts as a source. Future WWE Champion, DrewieStewie (talk) 22:52, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Whats going on?

Future WWE Champion, DrewieStewie (talk) 22:55, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Wait i see. I made a citation error. Ill fix if i can. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrewieStewie (talk • contribs) 22:58, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

first, del rio onlgy gave his opinion. Also, he said he believe punk will return.--HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:03, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Chris Brown

The Best In The World and Chris Brown had a very public Twitter fued. There is no mention of it on Wikipedia.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/chris-brown-cm-punk-feud-continues-wrestler-video-response-chris-brown-isn-man-article-1.1026766

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/chris-brown-cm-punk-feud-continues-wrestler-video-response-chris-brown-isn-man-article-1.1026766

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-02-22/entertainment/chi-cm-punk-twitter-war-chris-brown-video-20120221_1_twitter-feud-twitter-war-chris-brown

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2012-02-23/sports/bal-cm-punk-and-chris-brown-another-twitter-war-pitting-wwe-superstar-vs-celebrity-20120222_1_twitter-war-wwe-superstar-sheamus

Can we add a section on this fued? Wjserson (talk) 18:04, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Seems to have lasted three days and led nowhere. If a wrestling feud died out less than halfway toward the next episode, we'd be crazy to even call it a feud, let alone mention it on Wikipedia (much less give it a section). Sorry it took almost four years to reply; maybe put new questions beneath the old ones. InedibleHulk (talk) 18:58, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Fued between Punk and Chris Brown

No mention of the Twitter fued between the two? I only heard about Punk through this news story.

http://www.mtv.com/news/1679663/chris-brown-feud-miranda-lambert-cm-punk/

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/chris-brown-cm-punk-feud-continues-wrestler-video-response-chris-brown-isn-man-article-1.1026766

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-02-22/entertainment/chi-cm-punk-twitter-war-chris-brown-video-20120221_1_twitter-feud-twitter-war-chris-brown

--Wjserson (talk) 17:16, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

I added the Tribune Story to the Brown page, as it seemed a more appropriate place. More than something specific to CM Punk, this appears to be a more general attitude issue towards Brown due to his past transgressions. Jeremy112233 ^{(Lettuce-jibber-jabber?)} 18:54, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Holy crap! How did I not know of this Muppet episode? Thank you, whoever used a ref tag. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:27, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

For future generations reading this page, I didn't imagine it. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:21, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

retirment

Wow, one month later and we still talking about retirment, truth or lie. This isn't speculation. CM Punk said he is retired. Also, PWInsider, a reliable source, said so. We don't judge the sources, we write what sources say. For example, Low Ki retired a few months (also, 34 years old) and now he is wrestling. Ric Flair retired in 2008 and one year later he was wrestling against Hulk Hogan in Australia. Until Punk'll return to a ring, he is retired (even if a magazine writer wants to spectulate if he isn't retired.) --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 23:26, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

PWInsider says another source says so. Why not use that actual source instead, instead of second-hand reports? Because it doesn't say this at all. A reporter asks how it feels to be retired at 35. Not "retired from wrestling". He could just as well mean how does it feel to withdraw and have your privacy and seclusion, to which "It feels good" would make a lot of sense.

When a wrestler retires in the career sense, he typically announces it, like Flair or Low-Ki did. After all these months, the only thing you have to grasp at is the implication you read in what Punk didn't challenge in one word that one reporter used, likely correctly. That's it. That should tell you something. InedibleHulk (talk) 09:03, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

We shouldn't interpretate the sources. I think the source is pretty clear, Punk is retired. PWInsider (I put PW because it's reliable) stills calling Punk as retired. Maybe we have few information, but I think it's clear about Punk's status. I mean, we have a source called "CM Punk is retired" and we say "he isn't retired". --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:32, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, we shouldn't. And that's what you (and all the other sources who cite the Red Eye interview) do. It's stupid to put that much weight on an ambiguous comment, especially when we have Vince McMahon making an official, straighforward, quoted statement that Punk is on a sabbatical. It's even Wikilinked in the article, but just to be clearer, it's "a rest from work, or a break, often lasting from two months to a year." Or, according to Merriam-Webster's only definition, "a period of time during which someone does not work at his or her regular job and is able to rest, travel, do research, etc." That jives with the idea that he's retired in the non-career sense, but not if he was retired like a pensioner.

But what would the guy who owns Punk's contract and runs the company know, compared to Internet recyclers and their interpretations, eh? InedibleHulk (talk) 20:37, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

PWInsider says Punk is retired. So, the article shows Punk is retired. No interpetation, source to article.

I opened a a section at the talk page in the Project. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 20:47, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

PWInsider says another source says it. It doesn't. This is clear by looking at the source PWInsider claims says it, regardless of how many times you say PWInsider says it themselves. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:49, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

However, PWInsider stills saing Punk is retired (I read a few weeks ago ina Q&A). I know the interview is ambigous, but the fact is Punk answered to the question "it's fine". It indicates Punk is retired. Maybe, the best idea is to talk about it with the poject --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 20:54, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Keyword... "indicates"... as in not official. Until there is concrete evidence to say he is retired, InedibleHulk (talk) is right. Jeffhardyred (talk) 19:26, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Indicate: "to show that (something) exists or is true". If you use a verb at all, "hinted" or "suggested" might be better, but we'd still have no idea if Punk intentionally hinted, or if people are reading too far into it on their own. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:59, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

UPDATE: I surrender. Another editor stuck this video in an edit summary. Though I don't believe a word of it, and think I got the joke, he did certainly say the right words. Verifiability, not truth. If anyone wants to go full-on mark, they could technically add the "never ever" part, too, and it'd all be nice and legal. InedibleHulk (talk) 09:22, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Wrestlers Trained

Colby Lopez (Seth Rollins) needs to be added to the list of wrestlers trained by CM Punk. Punk had trained Lopez for free.

JPott (talk) 04:41, 1 July 2014 (UTC) JPott

According to whom? InedibleHulk (talk) 13:56, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Shouldn't AJ Lee be in that section too? She refered to him as "one of her best teachers" when talking about him training her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.207.253.101 (talk) 17:15, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

When? Where? InedibleHulk (talk) 09:28, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 July 2014

CM Punk has now (as of July 15, 2014) been released by the WWE. He tweeted that soon he might be starting a podcast/band. Andrewvincent1999 (talk) 01:08, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a specific change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 07:53, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2014

Please add a "spouse" section to the information box and put AJ Lee inside it. Mbanton123 (talk) 09:38, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

The infobox for professional wrestlers does not currently support the listing of spouses. You could take that request over to WT:PW. Prefall 10:18, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 November 2014

CM Punk is the best in the world. 203.106.189.24 (talk) 07:21, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

 Not done – That's subjective.LM2000 (talk) 07:32, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 November 2014

That Phill Brooks was fired (ON HIS WEEDING DAY!) and did not quit on the wwe and it's fans JackMachen14 (talk) 19:38, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

 Not done I already added this.LM2000 (talk) 21:38, 27 November 2014 (UTC)