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01:29, 25 September 2024 review of submission by Lucas489

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I don't know what or how to fix what needs to be fixed can someone please let me know! Lucas489 (talk) 01:29, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lucas489: No sources, no article, no debate. We also frown upon writing about oneself. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 01:31, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lucas489, not only have you failed to present evidence that you are a notable music performer, but everything you have written indicates that it is far too early for you to have an encyclopedia article written about you. Come back when you have a smash hit record and a national tour. Cullen328 (talk) 02:31, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While we're at it, we also frown on AI-written articles. -- asilvering (talk) 04:39, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

08:50, 25 September 2024 review of submission by Joao Pedro Jose

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Hello, I don't understand why the page has been declined. I read the articles Wikipedia sent me and still don't get it what is the issue of the page? The issue is the references I added? Those references are true sources on the internet well-established brands and the press. Please give me some guidance on where I need to improve. Thank you Joao Pedro Jose (talk) 08:50, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Joao Pedro Jose, you need to show significant coverage of the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). -- asilvering (talk) 14:06, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

10:44, 25 September 2024 review of submission by Dwanyewest

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I sourced my information, I demonstrated notability by showing he managed an international women's national soccer team and that Reto_Gertschen actually played professional soccer and it the article was still rejected. Why what was wrong with it now. Dwanyewest (talk) 10:44, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dwanyewest, please have a look at the decline notice, which explains, with links to relevant explanations, what we mean by "notability". -- asilvering (talk) 14:05, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

12:08, 25 September 2024 review of submission by Searching Nan

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I wrote about Aniyan Midhun and saw the draft needs some improvements. Please let me edit my draft and add some more reliable sources. Also if possible, help with the editing process. Searching Nan (talk) 12:08, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Searching Nan, you're allowed to edit your draft as much as you like - go right ahead. If you have any specific questions about how to edit, you can ask them here or at WP:TEA. "Help with the editing process" is a bit too vague for any of us to answer. -- asilvering (talk) 14:04, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Searching Nan. Would you enter a tournament in a sport that you only took up two days ago? Would you give a recital on a musical instrument that you had never played before yesterday?
My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. ColinFine (talk) 18:47, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

13:05, 25 September 2024 review of submission by 212.247.166.254

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I have a few references from Expressen, BreakIt and TravelNews. All sources are reliable, but it's not considered neutral since it's Avionero-people who comments on Avionero in the articles. I wonder – how can I get this page approved? 212.247.166.254 (talk) 13:05, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft now has zero references so...zero chance of being accepted. Theroadislong (talk) 13:33, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Find reliable sources that are wholly unconnected with the subject: see 42. Then forget everything you know about it and write a summary of what those sources say. If there are no sources, or they do not say very much, then there is literally nothing you can put in the article, and an article is not possible. ColinFine (talk) 18:49, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

13:06, 25 September 2024 review of submission by 117.245.175.69

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What can do for list this article, please help for adding this article on wikipedia 117.245.175.69 (talk) 13:06, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The person would have to pass the criteria at WP:GNG and there is zero evidence that they do. Theroadislong (talk) 13:32, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

14:57, 25 September 2024 review of submission by Morieux Th

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Please tell me what should i change or add. I can't find any more media talking about this business. Morieux Th (talk) 14:57, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If no more sources are available, that's the end of the line for this draft, at least for now. 331dot (talk) 15:02, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I’m not quite sure why. I didn’t provide a large amount of information and included two sources that consolidate the relevant details. What else are you expecting? Morieux Th (talk) 15:04, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not a place for companies to tell about themselves and what they do or their offerings. A Wikipedia article about a company must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. 331dot (talk) 15:07, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16:02, 25 September 2024 review of submission by Mr. Lechkar

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Hello, I would like to request assistance on the method for citing sources meant to cover the entirety of this list.

My main concern is the source for the foreign dignitaries section, which is drawn from this page of the Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs's Diplomatic Bluebook for 1989, but I have decided not to repeat the same citation (potentially hundreds of times) due to WP:REPEATCITE, and so assumed it would be better to include it as a single-line overview at the beginning of the section which included a single citation for that page (i.e. "Information as compiled by Kyodo News agency and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.[1][2]").

I understand that this may have potentially led to flaws in the citation method, and so would like to discuss potential alternative methods to listing all sources used, in addition of course to adding more secondary ones due to the nature of the topic covered by this draft.

Some ideas I had in mind for the sourcing method were:
A: whether the entire article should be left without inline citations and all general sources covering it mentioned in a section called "Sources" or "Bibliography", or;
B: the aforementioned section titled "Bibliography" included with the sources, but also used alongside inline citations.

Regards. Mr. Lechkar (talk) 16:02, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Lechkar, you can use a single reference multiple times by using the named reference technique. Please read WP:REFNAME and follow the syntax carefully. Cullen328 (talk) 19:36, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The main issue addressed isn't reusing a single reference on its own, rather the handling of the "References"/"Bibliography" section in this scenario.
Since the principal source in this draft is most likely one of the few with explicit detail on the subject (even if it comes from an official government ministry), the use of the same named reference tag for this source, once for each entry in the list, is likely to create clutter in the "References" section, with the aforementioned source having attached to it dozens of tags bearing the terms aa, ab, ac, da, db, dc, dd, etc. This is the problem which I have been looking to avoid.
There are some other articles which instead provide a general "Bibliography", "References" or "Sources" section without any inline citations (such as LOGO.SYS, Batoo, Curses 'N Chaos), but these seem to go against the general Wikipedia:IC policy. Mr. Lechkar (talk) 00:20, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

20:41, 25 September 2024 review of submission by Warshipnyc

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What wording is not allowed when publishing about a restaurant? I would like to make sure the restaurant has a wikipedia like it's peers. Additional citations have been noted. Warshipnyc (talk) 20:41, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Warshipnyc, promotional language such as reflects its purpose as a space where culinary artistry meets creative ambiance, offering a setting for chefs to showcase their craft written by Wikipedia editors is strictly forbidden. The Neutral point of view is a core content policy, and is mandatory. Your references do not verify the assertions that precede them. Three sentences in an Eater New York list article is not significant coverage. Several of your references are worthless for establishing notability, such as the restaurant's website. The relevant guideline is Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies), which is taken very seriously. Cullen328 (talk) 21:39, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Warshipnyc Restaurants do not "have a Wikipedia"; "Wikipedia" is the name of this entire website, composed of articles about topics meeting our criteria. They are not for the benefit of the topic in any way, and the topic has no special rights to any article that might be here about them.
Please see other stuff exists; each article or draft is judged on its own merits, and not based on the presence of other articles that themselves could be inappropriate, and just not yet addressed by a volunteer. 331dot (talk) 07:50, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

21:14, 25 September 2024 review of submission by Demsuz

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Hello! I need help editing the page I created. It got declined yet the graphic artist has mainstream art. Demsuz (talk) 21:14, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Demsuz: some of your sources are not reliable (esp. Discogs and Medium), and there is no evidence that the subject is notable. You need to show how they meet the WP:ARTIST notability standard, or alternatively the WP:GNG one. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:47, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Having "mainstream art" is not relevant. Nor is being famous, or important, or popular, or influential. Wikipedia's criteria are mostly about whether enough independent material has been reliably published about the subject. Remember that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 18:54, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

22:11, 25 September 2024 review of submission by IVM21

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I would like to know what could be added so that this page is accepted within the community, be it grammar, sources, history, among others. IVM21 (talk) 22:11, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@IVM21: this draft has been rejected and will therefore not be considered further. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:45, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It should be considered because he’s a credible graphic artist whose work is documented. Please show me one mistake in my research. I have used credible news organizations and art institutions. Demsuz (talk) 18:47, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

22:38, 25 September 2024 review of submission by Amightycatproduction

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Can you help me edit it so it will be accepted Amightycatproduction (talk) 22:38, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Amightycatproduction: this draft has been rejected and will therefore not be considered further. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:45, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So if you're going to do it, you'll need to start again.:
  • Find several places where people wholly unconnected with Ripeanu have chosen to write in some depth about her. Ignore anything written, published, or commissioned, by her, her relatives, her editor, her agent, her publishers, her associates of any kind, and anything based on an interview or press release. Ignore anything published without editorial control, such as all social media, wikis, blogs, iMDB, LinkedIn. Ignore anything which is from any site which is primarily there to sell something. On the other hand, it doesn't have to be in English, and it doesn't have to be online. See WP:42 for more.
  • If you can't find any, or hardly any, sources like that, give up.
  • If you can, forget everything you know about her and write a summary of what those indpendent sources say about her.
ColinFine (talk) 19:41, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

22:49, 25 September 2024 review of submission by 2C0F:F5C0:520:6D50:587A:58FF:FE6E:ACAD

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My submission has been declined several times citing that my lack of reference as the issue. I have added required citations all to no avail. Kindly assist me in solving this matter. Thanks and best regards. 2C0F:F5C0:520:6D50:587A:58FF:FE6E:ACAD (talk) 22:49, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed your link, you need the "Draft:" portion. Make sure that you are logged in when posting. You'll need to disclose your connection with this person, as you had access to them to take a photo of them, see WP:COI. You have not provided any independent reliable sources with significant coverage of her, describing what makes her a notable person. One source is an interview, which is not an independent source(it's her speaking about herself) and thus does not establish notability. The awards do not contribute to notability as the awards themselves do not merit articles(like Nobel Peace Prize and Academy Award). 331dot (talk) 07:33, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also the "Early Life and Education' section has zero sources, remove it or cite it correctly. Theroadislong (talk) 07:59, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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