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04:11, 18 September 2024 review of submission by 1972SUnite

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My article was declined due to unreliable resources. However, my resources, i.e. the news articles cited, are credible, but I believe the reason that they are being flagged is because the url to these articles require subscriptions to view. Because these are historic newspapers, from the 1970s, while they may not be easily accessible they can be located with a few extra steps.

In this situation, would I be better off not linking the articles to a url, and citing only the articles themselves? 1972SUnite (talk) 04:11, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the reviewer was more concerned about its sparse sourcing rather than reliability. Many of the claims present are not backed up with a inline citation, and contains unattributed opinions. Text like " The events of November 16, 1972, may have tested their endurance, but their unwavering commitment to the development of Black social consciousness remains and will continue to be an everlasting legacy." belongs in an argumentative essay, not in an encyclopedia. Note that ChatGPT and other text-generating AIs are poor in generating prose with dry prose, and you should edit them. Ca talk to me! 04:30, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, do you really own the copyrights to the historic pictures? Ca talk to me! 04:31, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

06:26, 18 September 2024 review of submission by Saddam19

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hi wikipedia

i want to this draft Madarsa_Rahmatul-Uloom_Naukatola to an artical post on wikipedia this a eduction centre in my city raxaul far from 4 km a small village naukatola and this madarsa is very popular in around the raxaul sub division . please help me .

thank you your user saddam19 Saddam19 (talk) 06:26, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Saddam19: your draft hasn't been reviewed because you haven't submitted it yet. That said, there is no point in submitting it as it stands, because it is only referenced with Facebook, which is not an acceptable source. See the notability guideline for organisations, WP:ORG, which tells you what sort of sources we need to see before this draft can be accepted for publication. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:30, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

06:29, 18 September 2024 review of submission by Top famous 2021

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edit this page Top famous 2021 (talk) 06:29, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Top famous 2021: this draft has been rejected, as you very well know. And please stop removing the AfC templates, this has been pointed out before. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:32, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

07:52, 18 September 2024 review of submission by Pratikshourabh1122

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can you help me what to do to get publish Pratikshourabh1122 (talk) 07:52, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pratikshourabh1122: I've posted advice on your talk page, which I presume you didn't read, because you came to ask on my talk page, which I answered, and you probably didn't read that either, as you're now here. This is not LinkedIn, where you tell the world about yourself and your software development etc. skills. This is an encyclopaedia. If your only objective here is self-promotion, you need to stop now and find a different outlet for that. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:58, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I gave my highly useful and carefully thought out deletion notice -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:12, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is not self promotion, it is fact. I have seen people with less accomplishments have a Wikipedia page. What gives you the right to dispute the facts of someone's life? I am proud of my accomplishments and other people are also. Malewis8805 (talk) 15:46, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

08:01, 18 September 2024 review of submission by Mellouis98337

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Can you assist me on how to get my draft submitted? Mellouis98337 (talk) 08:01, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mellouis98337: Wikipedia is not the place to promote your website, you need to find other marketing channels for that. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:47, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

11:57, 18 September 2024 review of submission by Pratap singh112

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Please let me know who to write the article Pratap singh112 (talk) 11:57, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft was deleted as blatant promotion. Promotional activities are not permitted here. If what I assume is your company(if you work for this company, that must be disclosed, see WP:COI and WP:PAID) merits a Wikipedia article according to our definition of a notable company, someone independent of the company will eventually write one. I suggest you go on about the work of your company as if Wikipedia did not exist. 331dot (talk) 12:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

12:40, 18 September 2024 review of submission by 2A02:C7C:7720:7000:14FC:1CBA:85A9:3658

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Advice on declined submission Hi Please can I get some help with a draft submission that has been declined: Draft:Amy Bateman

This is the feedback: do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject

I've been through the guidelines but don't understand what is missing. Please could you help?

Thanks Natalie 2A02:C7C:7720:7000:14FC:1CBA:85A9:3658 (talk) 12:40, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed your header, you had the words "advice on declined submission" where the draft title should go. The whole url is not needed so I removed that, too. Remember to log in when posting.
Most of the awards do not contribute towards notability as the awards lack articles themselves(like Academy Award or Nobel Peace Prize), though Lakeland Book of the Year has one. You have references, but they are not in line next to the information they support, see Referencing for beginners. You have desribed her curator work but not said what independent sources consider notable about it, how it was particularly important/significant/influential.
If you are the creator of the draft, your username suggests you are connected to this person, what is the connection? 331dot (talk) 12:48, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This refers to notability, which is a core requirement for inclusion in the encyclopaedia. You need to cite multiple (3+) sources that are secondary (mainly print or broadcast media covering the subject from an external perspective), and reliable (editorial oversight, fact-checking, etc.), and entirely independent of the subject and of each other, and that have provided significant coverage (not just passing mentions, brief 'profiles', etc.) of the subject. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:49, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe you may be responding to the wrong person. I am the Marc Lewis who played professional football, not the one who had "Lakeland Book of the Year"! I do not know who that is, please do not confuse me with this person again. Malewis8805 (talk) 15:49, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

13:54, 18 September 2024 review of submission by OrlandoX3

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Good morning OrlandoX3 (talk) 13:54, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@OrlandoX3: that's not a question, but now that you're here, let me ask you one: which account(s) have you previously edited, or are currently editing, under? Thanks, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:57, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@DoubleGrazing I'm thinking a RhodesAvenue sock - Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/RhodesAvenue KylieTastic (talk) 19:10, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@KylieTastic: yup, seems a pretty good match to me. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 19:55, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

13:56, 18 September 2024 review of submission by Rickmood

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I want to know why my page getting rejected? Rickmood (talk) 13:56, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rickmood I fixed your link, you need the "Draft:" portion. Your draft was declined, not rejected. Rejected has a specific meaning in the draft submission process, that a draft may not be resubmitted. Declined means that it may be resubmitted(and you have done so). The reviewer will leave you feedback, as prior reviewers have. Do you have specific questions about that feedback?
You also seem to be associated with this film, as you claim that you personally created its movie poster. 331dot (talk) 14:00, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rickmood: Draft:Hangama Dot Com hasn't been submitted.
When you say "my page", can you elaborate? Because the creator is not your Rickmood account, it is Hangama1 – do you also operate that account? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:02, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I saw Draft:Hangama Dot Com 2. 331dot (talk) 14:03, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, you seem to be talking about Draft:Hangama Dot Com 2?
Please still answer the question whether Hangama1 is your account. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:03, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

15:38, 18 September 2024 review of submission by Timixion

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I would need to expand the article, add sources and possibly edit the work that I added. I would appreciate any help. Timixion (talk) 15:38, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Timixion You need to be aware of WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. Is there a reason why you deploy the subjunctive: I would need to expand the article? 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 17:16, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16:37, 18 September 2024 review of submission by Rakin Mahmud

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I hope this message finds you well! I would appreciate your suggestions regarding the recent rejection of my article. Could you please explain why the article about Mridul Mahmud was rejected?

Mridul Mahmud is an entrepreneur currently generating a six-to-seven-figure (USD) income every month, making his online identity very important. He is the Founder and CEO of Affixin Media, and his role is highly relevant to the industry.

Could you advise me on what steps I should take to have the article about Mridul Mahmud approved?

I look forward to your reply and guidance. Best regards, Rakin

Rakin Mahmud (talk) 16:37, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rakin Mahmud: we don't give a [fill in your favourite expletive here] how much money this person makes, it has nothing to do with, well, anything really. And if his "online identity" is important to him (how do you know, BTW?), he will have any number of ways of developing it; Wikipedia isn't one of them.
This draft has been rejected and is pending speedy deletion. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:09, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rakin Mahmud You may not use Wikipedia to advertise, nor should you expect it to enhance your or anyone else's reputation. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 17:12, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
PS: Oh, and as this wasn't the first time this draft has been attempted, I would suggest leaving it there. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:11, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

17:25, 18 September 2024 review of submission by Catwurst

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How do I edit the page/article title? When I click edit, it does not allow me to edit, "Draft: Catwurst". That's not the correct title of the draft page. Catwurst (talk) 17:25, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Catwurst on eventual acceptance, if accepted, the title will be set by the a accepting reviewer 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 17:30, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like you put your username in place of the title you wanted. The specific title of a draft is not particularly relevant. Once it is accepted for placement in the encyclopedia, the reviewer will move it to the proper title.
I am wondering if you are associated with the law firm you are writing about. 331dot (talk) 17:30, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Hello,

I recently submitted a draft article about the law firm, Steptoe & Johnson PLLC and it was declined, the reason was that there is another Wikipedia article about Steptoe LLP and was recommended to edit that entry. However, both are separate law firms from each other, and would think they warrant separate entries.

Are there recommendations on how to handle or navigate this situation? Both entities have very similar names but are independent from each other.

I'm not sure how to navigate the Catwurst (talk) 19:50, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't start a new thread with every comment, please edit this existing section. Are you associated with this lawfirm?
The only thing we are concerned with is if the firm meets our definition of a notable organization, as shown with significant coverage in independent reliable sources, in order to merit a separate article. 331dot (talk) 20:01, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

19:57, 18 September 2024 review of submission by ElizbethAftonFnafEdits

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why was it deleted ElizbethAftonFnafEdits (talk) 19:57, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed your post to link to your draft. It wasn't deleted, it was rejected. It is a completely unsourced essay. 331dot (talk) 20:03, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

20:32, 18 September 2024 review of submission by Gemgemz88

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I am struggling to make this athletes profile publishable I have corrected all feedback given. And would like further support. Gemgemz88 (talk) 20:32, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gemgemz88 I fixed your link, you need the "Draft:" portion. What support you are seeking? 331dot (talk) 20:35, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It might help you if you drop the idea that what you are writing is a "profile" - something you might find in a directory or a magazine. What you are trying to write is an encyclopaedia article which should in neutral and plain language summarise what reliable independent sources| have published about this person. ColinFine (talk) 09:13, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

20:55, 18 September 2024 review of submission by 79.184.255.204

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Hello,

I would be grateful for any guidance on how I might improve the sources to meet the necessary standards.

My page was declined with the comment: "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources." However, I'm not sure whether the concern lies with specific sources I've used or if it pertains to all of them.

I have gone through the "Referencing for Beginners" and "Citing Sources" guidelines and ensured that every statement is backed by sources. Most of these are from small to medium-sized music blogs, zines, and portals. While they may not be on the scale of something like Metal Hammer, I made sure they aren’t from platforms with only 1-2k followers. In fact, I have also included a publication from Rock Hard Italy, which I believe is quite reputable. Importantly, I have avoided linking to our own site or socials, and I’ve been very careful not to use anything that could be viewed as manipulative or self-promotional.

Thank you so much for your time and assistance. 79.184.255.204 (talk) 20:55, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

21:13, 18 September 2024 review of submission by QbanMusician

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How can I add photos of the artist ?? QbanMusician (talk) 21:13, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Photos are not relevant to the draft process, which only considers the text and sources. You don't need to worry about images until the draft is accepted. 331dot (talk) 21:21, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@QbanMusician See Help:images Ca talk to me! 15:46, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]