Jump to content

Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2024 July 27

Add links
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Help desk
< July 26 << Jun | July | Aug >> July 28 >
Welcome to the WikiProject Articles for creation Help Desk Archives
The page you are currently viewing is a transcluded archive page. While you can leave answers for any questions shown below, please ask new questions on one of the current Help Desk pages.


July 27

[edit]

Wan Muhammad Asyrof Bin Wan Azman

[edit]

Wan Muhammad Asyrof Bin Wan Azman is birth at 28 June 2006.Wan Muhammad Asyrof is a political figure at UMNO(United Malays National Organisation).Her mother is named Maziah binti Majid and his father is named Wan Azman Bin Wan Yusoff.He now lived at Kampung Alur Mak Bah 23000,Dungun,Terengganu,Malaysia. Asyrofazman (talk) 00:49, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Asyrofazman: nowhere in that is there a question. And Draft:Wan Muhammad Asyrof Bin Wan Azman has been rejected and will therefore not be considered further (in case you were wondering). -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:51, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

04:08, 27 July 2024 review of submission by Rasilshrestha

[edit]

I am seeking assistance for feedback on my recent submission. I would like to address the concern regarding the subject's notability and the coverage in reliable, secondary sources.

The entire article focuses on the author and provides extensive information. In addition to the online references provided, there are also significant offline sources that I have cited, including reputable newspaper articles. These sources offer in-depth coverage and are crucial in establishing the subject's notability.

Furthermore, I have previously communicated with a reviewer who declined my article for similar reasons. I had ermailed him through the reviewer's talk page email i found and provided attachments of all offline resorces i had in which he advised that the inclusion of offline sources is acceptable and can be used to support the subject's notability.

I hope this clarifies the issue and demonstrates that the subject meets Wikipedia's notability criteria. Please let me know if there are any specific adjustments or additional information required to facilitate the approval of the article.

Thank you for your consideration. Rasilshrestha Rasilshrestha (talk) 04:08, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Rasilshrestha: you say you're seeking assistance, but it's not clear what sort of assistance you're asking for? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:50, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi,
Thank you for your reply.
I was seeking assistance regarding my article not adequately being supported by reliable sources and that the submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject.
I have added sources to some News Portal of Nepal various articles published in NepalKhoj , Kantipur , Annapurna Post etc. The articles i have added as refrences are about the author himself or his literature works in field of Nepali Literature.Also I had emailed Fade258 [e-mail address redacted] regarding the offline resources i had collected from old newspapers and also sent him the images as attachment and was told that i could add them to my article. I then resubmitted my article, it was again denied by SafariScribe with the same reasons.
So, can you please help me out.
Thank You, Rasilshrestha (talk) 07:12, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Rasilshrestha:. Sorry for late response. I appreciate your work but still that draft needs reliable and independent sources to the subject. Best Regards! Fade258 (talk) 14:28, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

13:22, 27 July 2024 review of submission by Nycamylee

[edit]

Hi, I am still a beginner to Wikipedia. I did my submission for an Article for Creation. And I thought I have inserted enough Newspaper articles and the references from reliable sources. But it still gives me these messages.

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources

We have a case of WP:UNDUEWEIGHT here. The foundation alone contains information with bare sources more than the biography itself. Please provide reliable sources citations to the content.

Honestly I don't quite understand what it requires more. Could you please advise me what I should to do pass the requirements? 

Nycamylee (talk) 13:22, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nycamylee: Everything that could potentially be challenged by a reasonable person MUST be cited to a strong third-party source with editorial oversight that corroborates the claim or (failing that) removed. This is not negotiable. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 15:46, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

13:51, 27 July 2024 review of submission by Collins P Mabasa

[edit]

Article has been rejected Collins P Mabasa (talk) 13:51, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Collins P Mabasa yes, it has, and it will be deleted soon. There is nothing to suggest that you are notable (another Wikipedia article and your company's website don't establish notability), and even if you were, you shouldn't be writing about yourself anyway. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 13:57, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16:20, 27 July 2024 review of submission by TonyGadreal

[edit]

I can't uploaded my article TonyGadreal (talk) 16:20, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This draft has been rejected due to refusal to address the reviewers' criticisms of it and will not be considered further. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 16:35, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TonyGadreal: Re-signing for botched ping. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 16:45, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16:57, 27 July 2024 review of submission by SisterPhraed

[edit]

Nearly all of my citations are from print newspapers and can be found online - I'm not sure why these are not acceptable. SisterPhraed (talk) 16:57, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SisterPhraed: From the looks of it you're missing required bibliographical information for the lot of them, and unnecessarily (and confusingly) merging multiple sources into one cite:
  • Cite 1 is missing byline
  • Cite 2 is missing bylines and seems to be citing two separate sources (each of these needs to be its own cite)
  • Cite 3 is missing bylines and seems to be citing three separate sources (one of which is also missing a page number)
  • Cite 4 is missing byline
  • Cite 5 is a malformed URL
  • Cite 6 is missing bylines and seems to be citing three separate sources (two of which are also missing page numbers)
  • Cite 7 is missing byline and page numbers
  • Cite 8 is missing byline
  • Cite 9 is missing byline, edition, work, and page numbers (if a periodical) and author, publisher, year of publication, page numbers, and ISBN/OCLC# (if a book)
  • Cite 10 is missing bylines and seems to be citing four separate sources (two of which are also missing page numbers)
  • Cite 11 is missing bylines and seems to be citing three separate sources
  • Cite 12 is missing bylines and seems to be citing seven separate sources
  • Cite 13 is missing bylines and seems to be citing four separate sources
  • Cite 14 is missing bylines and seems to be citing two separate sources
  • Cite 15 is missing bylines and seems to be citing three separate sources
  • Cite 16 is missing byline
  • Cite 17 is missing bylines and seems to be citing eight separate sources
  • Cite 18 is missing bylines and seems to be citing two separate sources
  • Cite 19 is missing byline
  • Cite 20 is missing byline
  • Cite 21 is missing byline
  • Cite 22 is missing byines and seems to be citing six separate sources
  • Cite 23 is missing bylines and seems to be citing two separate sources
  • Cite 24 is missing publisher and ISBN/OCLC#
  • Cite 25 is flat-out uncitable in the first place (we don't cite personal correspondence)
  • Cite 26 is useless for notability (gov't document; this includes death certificates)
  • We can't cite Find A Grave (no editorial oversight)
You need to separate out all your merged cites, find the required bibliographical information, and use {{cite news}}/{{cite book}} for each and every one of your sources. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 17:14, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"This submission reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. Submissions should summarise (sic) information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research."

I'm sorry, but this comment doesn't make sense to me - the article summarizes the information in multiple reliably cited sources - none of it is my opinion! Do I need to include names of the sources within the article rather than just in the endnotes? SisterPhraed (talk) 17:12, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SisterPhraed, addressing just this comment - can I suggest you have a look at the way some Featured Articles (best of the best) are structured, and use them as a pattern for yours? Here are two for female singers, both working around the same time as your subject: Marie Lloyd and Kathleen Ferrier. You can find tons more articles that would make a good reference for what to do with your draft at WikiProject Musicians' Featured Articles list. Wikipedia articles are set out in a fairly consistent way, so have a go at putting yours into sections as you see in the ones I've linked. Happy editing! StartGrammarTime (talk) 23:45, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! SisterPhraed (talk) 01:01, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Every time I try to include more personal details, as in the other two articles, there are complaints - so we'll see! SisterPhraed (talk) 13:29, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SisterPhraed, the trick there is to make sure that you're citing a reliable source for everything you add. Remember to find sources first, and only add information to your draft if you have it in your sources!
Actually looking at your draft again - it's not a draft, it's been published! Congratulations! You've successfully completed one of the hardest tasks on Wikipedia, take a moment to be proud of yourself :) StartGrammarTime (talk) 13:08, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much for your advice and comments! SisterPhraed (talk) 13:22, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

17:26, 27 July 2024 review of submission by Majeed-ul-Hassan

[edit]

which reliable source or references you accepted for verification of article? Are you accepting youtube channels or dramas on youtube for references and interviews on it? 

Majeed-ul-Hassan (talk) 17:26, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Majeed-ul-Hassan: We can only use YouTube as a source if (1) the video is produced by an agency we consider to have editorial oversight (such as al-Jazeera) and (2) that video is uploaded to that outlet's verified channel. We also have far stricter and MANDATORY sourcing requirements for biographies of living persons, and this includes autobiographies. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 17:30, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

17:34, 27 July 2024 review of submission by Maham28

[edit]

I wrote a draft and would love the insight on what makes these references unreliable? Maham28 (talk) 17:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

www.giftmarket.com.sg is a primary source so not independent, interviews with and content written by the owners is also not independent, so cannot be used to establish notability. Theroadislong (talk) 17:59, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

17:49, 27 July 2024 review of submission by SisterPhraed

[edit]

Please delete this draft article - thanks! SisterPhraed (talk) 17:49, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can do that yourself by tagging it with {{db-g7}} at the top. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 18:02, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

21:02, 27 July 2024 review of submission by Artlin2

[edit]

A page titled above was written and published on Wikipedia in June 2022 where it was featured along with photos.

Two years later, it’s in a draft. Can a reliable source such as esteemed Wikipedia writers re-publish it. Artlin2 (talk) 21:02, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy link: Draft:Chitra Ramanathan
Previously on AFCHD: [1]
@Artlin2, I see submitting this draft was one of the first things you did as a Wikipedia editor. Have you worked on this draft before? If not, how did you find it?
Could you also please tell us how you know Chitra Ramanathan? You have been asked this before but did not answer. StartGrammarTime (talk) 00:03, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dear StartGrammer,
In response, Chitra Ramanathan is publicly noticed for over 25 years into the present period by varied sources through features on different art related websites, articles and reviews. Earlier this year (January 2024) the artist was recognized with the International Tagore Award.
Secondly, the review was submitted upon direction by Wikipedia editor Geoffrey Lane.
However, should the references including that are featured in the Reference section on Wikipedia/the draft still not meet criteria, please delete the article. Thanks again. Artlin2 (talk) 00:36, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Artlin2: This does not answer the question. Your draft will not be accepted until you disclose how you know the subject. C F A 💬 00:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just adding that upon rereading the previous discussion, it seems to me that Artlin2 has not edited the draft under their current username and in fact does not intend to edit the draft (based on '...[s]o my question who would be identifying individual subjects for the written, as I will not be writing or editing.'). If that is a misinterpretation, I would be very happy to be corrected. Otherwise, we may be wasting our time trying to help an editor who has no intention of accepting advice. I hope this is not the case. StartGrammarTime (talk) 00:54, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if this account was a sock of Amansharma111 (a large WP:UPE farm that has been involved with this draft). Vertacool and Asmbg3 are probably also involved in this. I'll hold off on filing an SPI for now in case they have any convincing evidence to suggest otherwise. C F A 💬 01:03, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/Archives/2024_July_27&oldid=1248346182"