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[edit]01:18, 8 February 2024 review of submission by Uzungol1
[edit]Please could you advise as articles of similar nature have been published with less sources than this. What will you require to get this over the line please? Uzungol1 (talk) 01:18, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Uzungol1: never mind other articles, we don't assess drafts by reference to existing articles, but instead by reference to applicable guidelines. (See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS.) This draft has been rejected and will therefore not be considered further. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:37, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
07:09, 8 February 2024 review of submission by Flantru
[edit]Hi! What can we fix to make the article notable? Flantru (talk) 07:09, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Flantru: nothing; your draft has been rejected (after no fewer than nine earlier declines, I might add) for lack of notability, and will therefore not be considered further. Notability either exists or it doesn't; you cannot fathom it out of thin air with any amount of editing. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:35, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
07:16, 8 February 2024 review of submission by RT Pathik
[edit]Can you help me to fix my page RT Pathik (talk) 07:16, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- @RT Pathik: your sandbox was speedily deleted, twice, and your question has already been answered at the Teahouse, twice. Anything else? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:32, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
17:00, 8 February 2024 review of submission by Ritabrata88
[edit]- Ritabrata88 (talk · contribs)
I need assistance to publish this article. I have tried to edit the article as per the advices and points mentioned by each and every editor who has reviewed the article so far. It is yet to be fitting so I seek assistance to do the needful. Please help me. Ritabrata88 (talk) 17:00, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- The draft has been rejected, meaning it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 17:04, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- I have re-scripted the article after carefully studying similar well-versed articles and wiki guidelines. I request for a re-evaluation of the article as it stands now. I hope its suitable. Please advice. Ritabrata88 (talk) 18:16, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Ritabrata88: please don't start a new section with each comment, just add to your earlier one.
- The only way to appeal a rejected draft is to make your case directly to the reviewer who rejected it. (If they don't respond after a reasonable time, you may then come back here.) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:19, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- @DoubleGrazingThank you for the advice and sorry for the inconvenience caused. will do as you said. Ritabrata88 (talk) 18:26, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- Just blatant advertising even after a re-write. Wikipedia cannot source itself and The Times of India is not a reliable source. Theroadislong (talk) 18:27, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- @DoubleGrazingThank you for the advice and sorry for the inconvenience caused. will do as you said. Ritabrata88 (talk) 18:26, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
18:35, 8 February 2024 review of submission by Lizzzie.lane
[edit]- Lizzzie.lane (talk · contribs)
my submission has been declined multiple times for lack of significant coverage and secondary sources. But we have many sources and coverage. Unsure how to move it forward. Lizzzie.lane (talk) 18:35, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Lizzzie.lane: who is 'we', in "we have many sources"?
- Also, what is your relationship with this subject? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:38, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- Your use of the word "we" suggests that you work for this person or their company Please read WP:PAID and WP:COI.
- None of your sources are significant coverage of this person and what makes them notable. The awards do not contribute to notability as they do not merit articles themselves (like Academy Award or Nobel Peace Prize). 331dot (talk) 18:41, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Lizzzie.lane: having "many sources and coverage" may, or may not, be what is required. Per WP:GNG, we need to see significant coverage in multiple (3+) secondary sources that are reliable and independent of the subject. Each source that you rely on to establish notability has to meet every aspect of that standard. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:41, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
22:22, 8 February 2024 review of submission by SparkleOtter
[edit]- SparkleOtter (talk · contribs)
Hi, I made a page and I'm wondering why it was declined. I would love some help. Thanks! SparkleOtter (talk) 22:22, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, like many new editors, you have embarked on the challenging task of creating a new article before you have learnt very much about how Wikipedia works.
- My earnest advice to you, as I usually give to new editors, is to forget about Draft:Molly Jean Edwards for several months, while you make improvements to some of our six million existing articles, and learn about Wikipedia policies, particularly verifiability, reliable sources. neutral point of view, and notability. Then read your first article, and I suggest looking at BACKWARDS too.
- Large parts of your draft are unsourced (where did you get the information? If it was from a reliable source, cite it; if it wasn't then it does not belong in the article). Parts of it use peacock words.
- On a quick look, I cannot see a single source which meets the triple criterion of being reliable, independent, and in-depth coverage of her (see WP:42): nearly all of your sources should meet those criteria. Many of the citations are worthless - a citation which does not even mention the subject of the article is a waste of your time and every reviewer's time.
- One final point: when a new editor immediately starts trying to create two articles on closely related subjectgs, and works on nothing else whatsoever, this immediately raises the question of conflict of interest. What is your relationship with Edwards? ColinFine (talk) 22:54, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
22:30, 8 February 2024 review of submission by SparkleOtter
[edit]- SparkleOtter (talk · contribs)
Hi, what can I do to get my draft approved? SparkleOtter (talk) 22:30, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- SparkleOtter First, you can disclose your connection to her(as you took a picture of her and she posed for you). Please read WP:COI and WP:PAID.
- You havs several unsourced areas, and yet have too many sources. Fewer high quality sources are preferable to a large number of low quality sources. You need independent reliable sources with significant coverage of her showing how she meets either the narrow definition of a notable musician or the broader notable person definition. 331dot (talk) 22:37, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
23:46, 8 February 2024 review of submission by Vajkimzeej
[edit]- Vajkimzeej (talk · contribs)
??? Vajkimzeej (talk) 23:46, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- Do you have a question? 331dot (talk) 00:05, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Rumors like this have no place on Wikipedia, Vajkimzeej. Cullen328 (talk) 07:06, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- cause windows 12 is…
- way soon Vajkimzeej (talk) 17:41, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Until several people wholly unconnected with Microsoft have written at length about Windows 12 and been published in reliable sources, Wikipedia will have absolutely no interest in Windows 12. See WP:Crystal ball. ColinFine (talk) 20:07, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Rumors like this have no place on Wikipedia, Vajkimzeej. Cullen328 (talk) 07:06, 9 February 2024 (UTC)