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If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."
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- To list a technical request: Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:
This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.{{subst:RMassist|current page title|new title|reason=edit summary for the move}}
the - If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Consider pinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
- If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.
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[edit]- René Waldeck-Rousseau, father (currently a redirect to René Waldeck-Rousseau (born 1809)) → René Waldeck-Rousseau (currently a redirect instead to Pierre Waldeck-Rousseau) (move · discuss) – I believe the creator of René's article added the disambiguator "father" because a page titled "Rene Waldeck-Rousseau" already existed as a redirect to his son, Pierre Waldeck-Rousseau. The title "father" is unnecessary here, and also transfers to the Dutch wiki via translation. Aleksamil (talk) 09:31, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Aleksamil René Waldeck-Rousseau seems to much more commonly be used to refer to the son than the father (see https://www.britannica.com/biography/Rene-Waldeck-Rousseau, and most of the links at Special:WhatLinksHere/René Waldeck-Rousseau are referring to the son). However, I agree that something like René Waldeck-Rousseau (born 1809) would be a more standard form of disambiguation. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:33, 8 October 2024 (UTC)- @Ahecht That's sensible. I saw that the French wiki largely refers to the son as Pierre, so I assumed the same would be the case for English-language sources as well. Should I move the son's article to "René Waldeck-Rousseau" in that case, and the father to "René Waldeck-Rousseau (born 1809)"? Aleksamil (talk) 21:46, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Aleksamil Since there was some controversy over the naming of the son's article back in 2009, I would suggest opening a formal move request on the move of Pierre to Rene. See Talk:Pierre Waldeck-Rousseau#First name --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 00:51, 10 October 2024 (UTC)- I've gone ahead and done the move to René Waldeck-Rousseau (born 1809), however, since that seems uncontrovertial. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:13, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- I've gone ahead and done the move to René Waldeck-Rousseau (born 1809), however, since that seems uncontrovertial. --Ahecht (TALK
- @Aleksamil Since there was some controversy over the naming of the son's article back in 2009, I would suggest opening a formal move request on the move of Pierre to Rene. See Talk:Pierre Waldeck-Rousseau#First name --Ahecht (TALK
- @Ahecht That's sensible. I saw that the French wiki largely refers to the son as Pierre, so I assumed the same would be the case for English-language sources as well. Should I move the son's article to "René Waldeck-Rousseau" in that case, and the father to "René Waldeck-Rousseau (born 1809)"? Aleksamil (talk) 21:46, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Aleksamil René Waldeck-Rousseau seems to much more commonly be used to refer to the son than the father (see https://www.britannica.com/biography/Rene-Waldeck-Rousseau, and most of the links at Special:WhatLinksHere/René Waldeck-Rousseau are referring to the son). However, I agree that something like René Waldeck-Rousseau (born 1809) would be a more standard form of disambiguation. --Ahecht (TALK
- Cartoon Network (Central and Eastern Europe) → Cartoon Network (Central and Eastern European TV channel) (currently a redirect back to Cartoon Network (Central and Eastern Europe)) (move · discuss) – previous article name to match with all of the other international CN channels. VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 18:34, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- @VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 I am not seeing where this a reversion of a previous move, so I am changing the section this is in. Bensci54 (talk) 20:17, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- This seems like unnecessary disambiguation and goes against WP:CONCISE. Unless there's something I'm missing, it seems like if other international CN channels also include "TV Channel" they should have it removed as well. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 20:42, 8 October 2024 (UTC)- @Bensci54 and Ahect: Don't mind if I list similar requests here for move reversions; actually, VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 is right, they are! Looking at the page history for this and similar others, WP:NCTV was cited as the reason. Even check out Nickelodeon (Israel). Intrisit (talk) 18:54, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Intrisit You're probably thinking of WP:NCBC ( WP:NCTV is about TV shows, not channels), but I don't see anything in there that says to use "TV channel" when just the country (or region) name is unambiguous. Looking at the page history of Nickelodeon (Israel), you tried to move it to Nickelodeon (Israeli TV channel) and an administrator immediately moved it back to Nickelodeon (Israel) because "TV channel" was unnecessary disambiguation. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:20, 9 October 2024 (UTC) - @Number 57: pinging the administrator who made the move reversion on mine with this without any addressing at my talk page (since I knew not at the time that it was twice moved to that title prior to their quick move reversions) to see if there'll be an agreement to remove the "(TV channel)" disambiguation in these such titles. Intrisit (talk) 19:54, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Intrisit You're probably thinking of WP:NCBC ( WP:NCTV is about TV shows, not channels), but I don't see anything in there that says to use "TV channel" when just the country (or region) name is unambiguous. Looking at the page history of Nickelodeon (Israel), you tried to move it to Nickelodeon (Israeli TV channel) and an administrator immediately moved it back to Nickelodeon (Israel) because "TV channel" was unnecessary disambiguation. --Ahecht (TALK
- @VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004: Even check out the page history of Nickelodeon (Israel). Intrisit (talk) 18:54, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Bensci54 and Ahect: Don't mind if I list similar requests here for move reversions; actually, VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 is right, they are! Looking at the page history for this and similar others, WP:NCTV was cited as the reason. Even check out Nickelodeon (Israel). Intrisit (talk) 18:54, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- This seems like unnecessary disambiguation and goes against WP:CONCISE. Unless there's something I'm missing, it seems like if other international CN channels also include "TV Channel" they should have it removed as well. --Ahecht (TALK
- @VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 I am not seeing where this a reversion of a previous move, so I am changing the section this is in. Bensci54 (talk) 20:17, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- SpyHunter → SpyHunter (2001 video game) (currently a redirect back to SpyHunter) (move · discuss) – there are multiple games with that name https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spy_Hunter_(disambiguation) FMSky (talk) 06:52, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- @FMSky The original video game was "Spy Hunter", not "SpyHunter". See WP:SMALLDETAILS. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 15:45, 9 October 2024 (UTC)- The spelling is bascially the same. A move could make it a lot less confusing --FMSky (talk) 00:28, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @FMSky I don't always agree with WP:SMALLDETAILS either, but the consensus around here is generally that small differences in spacing and punctuation are sufficient, so this wouldn't be uncontroversial. If you want to discuss adding the additional disambiguation, you can click the "discuss" link in your request above to open a formal move request. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:18, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @FMSky I don't always agree with WP:SMALLDETAILS either, but the consensus around here is generally that small differences in spacing and punctuation are sufficient, so this wouldn't be uncontroversial. If you want to discuss adding the additional disambiguation, you can click the "discuss" link in your request above to open a formal move request. --Ahecht (TALK
- The spelling is bascially the same. A move could make it a lot less confusing --FMSky (talk) 00:28, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @FMSky The original video game was "Spy Hunter", not "SpyHunter". See WP:SMALLDETAILS. --Ahecht (TALK
- Habersham County, Georgia → Habersham County (currently a redirect back to Habersham County, Georgia) (move · discuss) – Place disambiguation is not necessary. Miklogfeather (talk) 16:40, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Miklogfeather The current name is standard per WP:USPLACE. Bensci54 (talk) 16:46, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Distribution center management system → Distribution Center Management System (currently a redirect back to Distribution center management system) (move · discuss) – Redirect should replace the target article so it uses title-case spelling. Article is about a specific proprietary system, not the general concept. Tule-hog (talk) 18:10, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Tule-hog I think a better solution here would be to expand the scope beyond the specific proprietary system. The article was about DCMS packages from many providers before this edit, and a quick Google search shows a variety of companies other than Eclipse that offer software they call a "distribution center management system" including SDI, Indus, JDA, Blue Yonder, etc. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:31, 9 October 2024 (UTC)- Alternatively a place to elaborate on the non-proprietaries would be warehouse management system (along with expansion to distinguish the warehouse vs distribution center terms, which are somewhat nebulous but there are definitions to be found). I'm not sure two separate articles are warranted (could be wrong!). Tule-hog (talk) 22:22, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Tule-hog I certainly wouldn't object to just merging Distribution center management system into Warehouse management system. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:15, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Tule-hog I certainly wouldn't object to just merging Distribution center management system into Warehouse management system. --Ahecht (TALK
- Alternatively a place to elaborate on the non-proprietaries would be warehouse management system (along with expansion to distinguish the warehouse vs distribution center terms, which are somewhat nebulous but there are definitions to be found). I'm not sure two separate articles are warranted (could be wrong!). Tule-hog (talk) 22:22, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Tule-hog I think a better solution here would be to expand the scope beyond the specific proprietary system. The article was about DCMS packages from many providers before this edit, and a quick Google search shows a variety of companies other than Eclipse that offer software they call a "distribution center management system" including SDI, Indus, JDA, Blue Yonder, etc. --Ahecht (TALK
- Democratic and Popular Unity Party (currently a redirect to Democratic and Popular Union) → Democratic and Popular Unity (currently a redirect instead to Democratic and Popular Union) (move · discuss) – Previous move request was accepted but with "party" tacked on to the end. This despite "party" not being in the name and the fact that it is an electoral alliance not a political party. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 18:25, 9 October 2024 (UTC) Krisgabwoosh (talk) 18:25, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Pinging @Doomsdayer520. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:05, 9 October 2024 (UTC)- I've moved it back to Democratic and Popular Union for the time being, as I think this is sufficently murky that a full discusison would be warranted in this instance. WHile there doesn't seem much call for adding Party on the end, I can see a case for either Union or Unity and Union is the long-term status quo. Ngrams show that in the party's heyday English sources were mainly using Unity, but in recent years there is a preference for Union.[1] — Amakuru (talk) 21:53, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- In my opinion, this is an example of a feedback loop in which the name of the article on Wikipedia influences the wording used in other sources. As shown by the Ngrams, the name "Democratic and Popular Union" begins gaining traction around 2010, the same year the Wikipedia article name was changed. Given that, I think it would be appropriate to move back to the more accurate name. The current name would not have reflected most sources when it was first moved in 2010 and is only the status quo now because it was never corrected. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 00:48, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Krisgabwoosh moved to contested as it looks like a discussion may be necessary (technical requests are for simple situations, this looks like it might need some scrutiny to make sure we get it right) ASUKITE 14:17, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm the one who moved this to "...Party" yesterday and that was an informed action based on my reading of available sources (at least in English). If that was the wrong way to go then so be it, but it indicates the confusing state of sources on this organization. Also, the article is such a mess in its current form that I'm surprised it was never nominated for deletion. If anyone plans to actually clean it up, their research might help nail down the best way to present the organization's name. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 18:42, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- I couldn't agree more. Intrisit (talk) 20:11, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm the one who moved this to "...Party" yesterday and that was an informed action based on my reading of available sources (at least in English). If that was the wrong way to go then so be it, but it indicates the confusing state of sources on this organization. Also, the article is such a mess in its current form that I'm surprised it was never nominated for deletion. If anyone plans to actually clean it up, their research might help nail down the best way to present the organization's name. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 18:42, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- I've moved it back to Democratic and Popular Union for the time being, as I think this is sufficently murky that a full discusison would be warranted in this instance. WHile there doesn't seem much call for adding Party on the end, I can see a case for either Union or Unity and Union is the long-term status quo. Ngrams show that in the party's heyday English sources were mainly using Unity, but in recent years there is a preference for Union.[1] — Amakuru (talk) 21:53, 9 October 2024 (UTC)