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Subcategory: Science fiction by women

I'd love to make a subcategory for Science fiction by women (maybe needs to include the word novels, but I think worded as is could include comics, etc.). But I'm quite new and have never made a category page before. Any tips? Does that seem appropriate/relevant?

Thanks for any help you can offer.

MestizaMetaphor (talk) 02:43, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Lmstevens5947: There's this category already with a little over 1,000 pages: Category:Women science fiction and fantasy writers and this one with a little over 450 pages: Category:Female comics writers. You can probably find more (and maybe discover a need for another) here: Category:Women writers. Happy editing! Orville^talk 03:46, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Orville, I read that as cat for works, not authors. Have we any of those? Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 04:08, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Yes, exactly. Books, not writers. MestizaMetaphor (talk) 04:53, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

@Lmstevens5947: @Usedtobecool: The closest I could find was Category:Feminist science fiction novels. If you'd like to give it a try, WP:CAT provides guidance on how to add subcategories. I've never done it, so hopefully another editor stops by to provide more guidance on how it works. Happy editing! Orville^talk 05:08, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

And these two Category:Superhero films featuring female antagonists and Category:Superheroine films. Orville^talk 05:14, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Since "feminist" is a qualifier of content, rather than the author (not all women are femininsts), I think a separate category is in order. Thanks for talking it through with me! Any further tips about creating a subcategory are welcome. MestizaMetaphor (talk) 05:31, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

And not all feminists are women. I dislike categories limited to one gender, the minimum should be two. The times when, e.g., Women bloggers were something new and special are hopefully gone.
The SF by Lois McMaster Bujold or C. J. Cherryh belongs to Category:Novels by Lois McMaster Bujold or Category:Science fiction novels by C. J. Cherryh, respectively, and doesn't need any additional gender category. –84.46.52.13 (talk) 16:32, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

I need help to understand what one means when one says your article sounds like an ad

This is an article I am attempting to draft. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:DVEO

It is about a company called DVEO. One of their key achievements is providing the key component in a NASA airborne video encoding used to send images from outer space to the NASA earth station for disseminating information to the general public

I have edited my article down to the basics.

Could some experienced editor please review my draft and explain why it's original or current form looks like an ad

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gipsyblues (talk • contribs) 04:50, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

I have edited the draft to show what I would do with the sources cited there, and left a detailed explanation on the summary. Have a look. Click on the blue links on the message that was part of the declination notice and give it a read. Feel free to revert my edit and continue your work with the help of the guidelines on those linked articles. Also, look at similar articles in wikipedia to see how accepted articles adhere to WP:NPOV. Hope this helps! Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 05:43, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

I'm not probably who you're looking for, but that "awards" section is a bit too big for such a small article. Try trimming it down, and adding more history - and stop repeating the company name. It sounds like a radio ad. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 16:32, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

creating a bio page for a person

Is it possible to save your work as you prepare the article. Id rather not publish a few sentences until I have full paragraphs and more written. There does not seem to be a "save draft" anywhere. Am I missing something? I appreciate your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gwalsh1025 (talk • contribs) 00:25, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

@Gwalsh1025: In this context, "Publish changes" is equivalent to "save changes". It does not mean "publish your draft to Wikipedia". It is confusing, but the button must say that for legal reasons. To submit your draft for a review, you can use Articles for Creation.331dot (talk) 00:30, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

He is copying contents from another website. Masum Reza^📞 00:49, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

I am not copying from a website. I wrote one valid sentence. I included all wiki links to words and then listed two sources. Then I listed several article links to substantiate the credibility for the bio page to be created. Some of those same sources are listed for this famous man. I even put them in the correct italic and linked order by date.Gwalsh1025 (talk) 01:23, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

You can work on your user subpage, save it, eat, sleep, work again on it, etc., for some time alone.
When you want collaboration by other users you can move it to a public draft. The title is unsuited for a proper page, and another Jeff Grant exists, maybe Draft:Jeff Grant (jurisprudence) would be okay. –84.46.52.13 (talk) 16:59, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

No edit tabs

Helped

New user, made 6 contributions so far. But now many of the articles I wish to edit do not have Edit Source or edit links on the sections. None of them say they are locked from editing. What am I doing wrong? Thank you.--Daveler166 (talk) 22:33, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

@Daveler166: Welcome to Wikipedia!, It happened to me, I think you have to have more contributions, don't know how many more, maybe other user is able to tell you. But keep editing on articles you can and be sure you can count on the Tea House! Welcome again! --LLcentury (talk) 22:38, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Daveler166: Can you give us a few examples of where you're not seeing the tabs? The only articles I can think of where you should see that would be articles currently protected from editing, and there are not very many of those. Orville1974^talk 22:44, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) You will be able to edit semi-protected pages when you are autoconfirmed, which normally takes 10 edits and 4 days. In the meantime you can submit an edit request on the talk page of a protected page you want to edit. Eman235/talk 22:46, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

@Orville1974: I tried "Baseball", "Soka Gakkai" and "Beatles". If they are protected, would it say so somewhere on the page? Thanks again everyone. --Daveler166 (talk) 22:58, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

You should see a padlock icon, like this: in the top right corner of those articles, on the same line as the article title. (The icon seems to be missing from the mobile site, though.) Eman235/talk 23:18, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

And instead of the edit tab you should see a tab "view source". Click on it and you can see more information (and I guess there is also an auto-generated link that allows you to leave an Edit request on the talkpage) Jannik Schwaß (talk) 05:50, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you all. Looks like I did 10n edits, but have to wait 4 days - I think that's tomorrow. Anyway, I found the PW to my old account (I had accidentally logged out) so I'll probably be using that more than this one. I'll check in tomorrow and see if I can edit then woith this account. Thank you so much.--Daveler166 (talk) 17:42, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi, you might want to make sure you don't violate the anti-sockpuppeting rules given in WP:SOCK if you have multiple Wikipedia accounts. Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 18:00, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Good point. Should I delete this account? I'm only using it because I get e-mails saying I have notificatkions. :-) --Daveler166 (talk) 18:51, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

I remember this guy from school, but the school is not listed on his bio

Hi

Paul Adefarasin is a Nigerian televangelist and pastor. I remember him from my school days when we both attended an English public school, but the school is not mentioned on his page. There appears to be no published information about his attendance at the school. Is it OK to make an edit to his page?

Also, one of the references on his page is "House On The Rock Pastor, Paul Adefarasin Threatens To Expose Homosexuals In His Church". However, there is no mention in the body of the Wikipedia article that Adefarasin advocates homophobic actions and sentiments. What would be your advice here? Should his page be edited to include this information?

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Egberto29 (talk • contribs) 16:13, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

The advice would be

1. Do not add information that you "just know" but do not have a source to support it. See WP:OR.
2. Add information that is missing from the article but is mentioned in the source in references but remember to make an inline citation to that source when you add that information. Don't make your own conclusions about what is said in the source though. For example: Don't say he is homophobic if the article doesn't say that. Just say what the article says about the incident. If the article explicitly says he is homophobic, it's ok to say that he is considered homophobic because of such and such activity and to cite that article.

Be very careful about what you write about a living person. See WP:BLP. Hope this helps! Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 17:37, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

After reading the cited article, I removed the cite because of its unprofessional tone. It does not seem to be a reliable source, and was not necessary to cite anything currently in the article. There does seem to be coverage out there about this pastor, so it should be possible to find WP:RSs to assemble a reasonable paragraph or two about his focus and activities. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 09:11, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice. Egberto29 (talk) 21:13, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Help with the article

I have been trying to write an article. I am a new user. But it is continuesly not being accepted due to different reasons. Can you please help me with the changes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Adwerd#Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation%3A_Afreen_Rahat_%28July_1%29 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adwerd (talk • contribs) 02:34, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Adwerd: Your article's references do not demonstrate the subject's notability. You can see the specific requirements here WP:NACTOR and here WP:GNG. You'll need to show that she has had significant coverage from third-party, independent, reliable sources. If you are unable to find that type of coverage, then it's just too soon for her article right now, and no amount of editing and re-writing will help. Orville^talk 03:16, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Afreen Rahat has been rejected four times. I agree too soon, meaning that no revising will matter. David notMD (talk) 02:56, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

About External Link Insertion

Hello Sir,

I am new to Wikipedia as I have made some edits and put some relevant and informational link of my own site but they were removed. What if I don't have any high-authority site. Can't I insert a useful link to Wikipedia? I also want to provide Wikipedians some useful information.

I am not here to do the promotion of my blog or personal website. It's just that I also want to contribute here.

Can you help me out??

Thanks!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sukriti maurya (talk • contribs) 04:25, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Sukriti maurya, I checked almost all your links out and none of them meet the criteria for acceptability as sources in Wikipedia. See WP:RS. As they are, they only serve to promote those links, that is they are there in the hopes that someone will click them and go to them. That is not allowed. You might think the information on those links is useful, but if those links don't take the reader to independent, credible sources that verify the information that they are supporting in the Wikipedia article, it is useless for the encyclopedia. Wikipedia is simply not the place to promote links which you think are useful. The other links are there because they are necessary. Blogs like yours don't help encyclopedic content in any way. So, they were absolutely right to warn you and remove those links. Please read the article on which sources are acceptable, because if you disregard the warnings and continue, you might get banned. Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 04:58, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Sukriti maurya Welcome to Teahouse. Wikipedia is not a sites to provide "tips" to reader but an online encyclopedia and sources are added to support the "directly" content claimed for verification. The external links you provided "tips" have no place in Wikipedia and would consider adding spam to the article which in Wikipedia guidelines is a "spam" and if you continue to do so, you will be blocked/banned from Wikipedia. Secondly, pls do not add your sites (link) to articles as since it is your site which mean you have a conflict of interest here. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 04:57, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Two questions about the WMF's Android app

Helped
I'm aware that it's a good practice to leave edit summaries, but I'm nonetheless curious about the official Android app apparently preventing an edit from going through if the edit summary is left blank. Is this an intended limitation of the app, or is there something I'm missing?

Tangentially related question: the list of Wikipedia mobile applications states that the Android app cannot open talk pages, but this doesn't seem to be true of the current version of the app which can open any page when looked up with the correct namespace. Is that something that should be updated? (Please ping when replying.) Airbornemihir (talk) 03:22, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Airbornemihir: @Cullen328: has an article about mobile editing on an Android phone that may be helpful for you here: User:Cullen328/Smartphone editing. If you can't find what you're looking for in his article, you may get a quicker response asking this question in the technical area of the Village Pump: WP:Village pump (technical). The editors there have quite a bit of expertise with the technical side of Wikipedia. Orville^talk 04:22, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification, Orville, and thanks for recommending my essay. Yes, I edit and work as an administrator using Android smartphones. But I use the fully functional "desktop" website on my phone, not the Android app or any other mobile apps. I know that developers are working to improve those apps. Updates should be made to pages about those apps. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:30, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

@Orville and Cullen328: Thanks! Airbornemihir (talk) 09:58, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

I'm still interested in any suggestions. Airbornemihir (talk) 04:58, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello @Airbornemihir:, Village pump is not a person that replies here. It's a separate page where you can ask technical questions, since the Teahouse is intended solely to advise new users on using/editing wikipedia. Just click the link Orville gave you. Go there and ask a new question. You will get a prompt response. Sorry it wasn't clear. Here, again for you convinience: click WP:Village pump (technical). Hope it helps! Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 05:13, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi again @Airbornemihir: Did you try posting your question at WP:Village pump (technical) yet? Orville^talk 05:15, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Oh, I see what you did. I'm going to copy this question over there. You're more likely to get a response that way. Orville^talk 05:17, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

@Orville:, this section was unarchived by the OP and promoted to the bottom here because they felt the answer wasn't adequately addressed. Pinging you in hopes that you might know where to place this (and/or archive it again) once the issue is addressed, if anything at all needs doing, that is. Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 05:22, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Airbornemihir: I see you posted an invite from Village Pump to here, but I think you'll get a better response by asking the question directly there, so I've copied your question over to WP:Village pump (technical) which should now be in your watchlist. I'll keep an eye on the question over there, to see if you get more timely responses than here. Happy editing! Orville^talk 05:27, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks folks. Hope the multiple edit conflicts on this page weren't a bother. Airbornemihir (talk) 05:29, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

wimbledon men's singles 2019

i think you made mistake in wimbledon men's singles 2019 section 1. in third round, the players should be felix auger aliassime vs ugo humbert and i believe novak djokovic is going to face hubert hurkacz in third round — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.178.222.102 (talk) 04:22, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello IP user, it appears you might have seen the page during an intense vandalisation war. The entry has been corrected already. If you see a page with such mistakes, you can BE BOLD and go ahead and correct it yourself since it's free for everyone to edit. Thank you! Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 05:39, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Question Regrading Contribution

Hello Everyone,

This is Sonakshi Rastogi,

I am here to ask you that I just wanted to add relevant and useful information on the Page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_pain). Here on this Wikipedia page, there is a section named "Prevention". In this section, no one has described the prevention of Back Pain that's why I want to add here a useful resource that fully describes the prevention of Back Pain.

Will it be useful to add this link (https://www.usehealthtips.com/types-backache-prevention-back-pain/)?

Help me with your guidance. Whether this link is suitable or not. If yes, kindly permit me to add this one.

Thanks!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonakshi Rastogi (talk • contribs) 04:40, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Sonakshi Rastogi, unfortunately, the article was written by a "blogger". A blogger is not an acceptable source on medical advice. Nor is the website/source it appears in, a reputable source of credible medical findings. As such, that source is not acceptable. If you have books or research papers written by a doctor/medical researcher which we can verify is a reliable source (see WP:RS), then we can add information from there and cite those sources. But, not blogs. Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 05:04, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi,

Thanks for the suggestion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonakshi Rastogi (talk • contribs) 06:45, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Someone is abusing Serpentza Wikipedia page?

He does not live in China anymore. He lives in San diego, please confirm his patreon page subscription, youtube, instagram accounts, his wife made a video about now living in the USA. CHINAYT only contribution is Serpentza, so I suspects its him or colleague. Please review page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.107.121.141 (talk) 03:53, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Courtesy - article appears to be Winston Sterzel. Article currently states he lives in San Diego, so not clear why the question. David notMD (talk) 04:24, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

68.107.121.141, when you have an edit dispute, you can talk it out in the talkpage of the article, or even the talkpage of the editor you have the dispute with, before resorting to complaining to the authorities. They asked you to supply reliable sources to cite your edit. That is a very reasonable request. Saying that you know that for a fact, isn't enough. That user has stopped reverting your edits, I suspect to honour the 3RR rule. You should too, or you might get banned. Also, someone else might come and revert your edit unless you provide a citation to a reliable source. In fact, I have done just that because the sentence about the subject's father had been broken in the latest revision. Again, please make sure claims are cited and the sentences don't break down when you remove a piece of information. Only remove information if it couldn't be verified in the inline citation provided. In the case of uncited claims, it's better to remove that altogether rather than engage in an edit war with yet another uncited proposed version.Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 05:02, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

David notMD, I think they are talking about the edit dispute they have with user CHINAYT on that page. I suspect they might have been trying to report a suspected COI/vandalism account. Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 05:06, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

The article is now protected (autoconfirmed) for a week due to the back and forth between shifting IP addresses with similar edits and a newer logged in user. Orville^talk 05:19, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

PLease check his latest youtube, instagram pages, patreon pages, he will confirm this — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.107.121.141 (talk) 06:49, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

First he discussed in youtube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J35AxY1pLE (see at 11:30 time) Latest videos by him, instagram, and Patreon all confirm he is in Southern California https://www.patreon.com/SerpentZA https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXFUJBn-uVw7NuBcDu-byFw/videos

References

Hi again. Please discuss content-related issues like this on the article's talk page, here: Winston Sterzel. Orville^talk 07:01, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

About me

Tea and biscuits for you, courtesy of the Teahouse Hosts.

I am a new user and I need help how and where to start — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajesh.Rachuri (talk • contribs) 22:23, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

@Rajesh.Rachuri: I've added a welcome message to your talk page. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 00:45, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia and to the Teahouse, Rajesh.Rachuri. One good place to start is by looking at encyclopaedia pages about topics that interest you personally. Read them and ask yourself whether anything about the topic could be improved. Spelling and grammar are easy things for anyone to fix. Maybe you'll encounter factual statements that don't appear to be supported by a reference (citation), and you could investigate whether there are any reliable sources you could add which will help others verify that statement in the future. Some pages will have notices at the top of them which highlight problem area that need fixing. The one thing, however, that you mustn't do is simply add stuff that you personally happen to know. You might know that your town or village has five libraries, three museums and two wells, but unless there are published sources which others can use to confirm this information, you mustn't add it (as tempting as that may be). In the process of publishing your changes (i.e. saving your edits) you'll see a box for an 'edit summary' - please use this to briefly describe what change you've made so others can see the reason behind those edits.

And because this is an encyclopaedia, and not Facebook or Linkedin, we must always write in a neutral, non-promotional manner at all times. You may have a personal view about some topic,but it's not for you to share it here - though you may include statements to properly published sources where scholars, politicians or other noetworthy people have written about their opinions . May I suggest you take our interactive tour called The Wikipedia Adventure which is a great introduction to how things work. (It's better if you can do it from a computer rather than a mobile phone, as it doesn't always display properly on small devices). You might also like to create a brief entry on your userpage which just explains your interests and wishes for editing Wikipedia, but don't turn it into an encyclopaedia entry about yourself!(more info here). I find this helpful to see why a new editor is here, and what they hope to contribute to. I would particularly advise against posting any personal details like birth dates, family member names, hometown, email addresses etc, and especially not if you are underage as we take the protection of young people very seriously and don't want you to cause problems for yourself later on by revealing information you subsequently regret (see here for further advice for young people) Best wishes at the start of your very own Wikipedia adventure! Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 09:19, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

soundcloud artist

is socan payable or a form of collections for work/royalties on sou dcloud and affiliates — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.50.131.38 (talk) 11:08, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello, this is a page to ask about editing or using Wikipedia, not for general questions. 331dot (talk) 11:17, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Possible new article: Darryl K. Williams of Boston and Milton, Massachusetts, USA

I have read many articles about Darryl Williams who was a shooting victim in 1979 in Charlestown, Massachusetts during a high school football game, and I am surprised there is no Wikipedia article covering his life and accomplishments. I feel he deserves a Wikipedia article based on the impact he had on so many people in the Boston area and beyond. Paralyzed from the neck down for the next 3 decades, he fought for social justice, earned a high school diploma and a bachelor's degree, and spoke to thousands of high school students and others with a message of compassion and forgiveness. He has written two works which are unpublished. One of them is copyrighted, and the other one unfinished. Below are some of the references I have found so far through a Google search besides his obituary of 2010. Would someone please help me write an article about him? I have limited computer access these days.

Richard E. Lapchick, a former professor at Northeastern University in Boston, Massachusetts and a longtime friend of Darryl Williams, described Darryl in an ESPN.com article as an advocate for social justice, compassion and forgiveness in a city that faced racial tensions throughout his lifetime. Richard was the victim of a hate crime himself, according to the article.

Darryl was given scholarship awards and many civic honors.

References

GreekChanter (talk) 16:42, 4 July 2019 (UTC) GreekChanter (talk) 16:50, 4 July 2019 (UTC) GreekChanter (talk) 16:56, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello GreekChanter, I see that you have started working on it in your sandbox. That is the recommended course of action. Please consult WP:YFA for guidance. Start by writing a stub with 2-3 of the best of the sources that you have and showing in the article that as per those sources, he wasn't just noticed for the one event but his life was noticed widely throughout his life/career. You can ask other editors to take a look and give advice when you have some questions or when you get stuck. When you feel it's ready to show to fellow editors, you can move the page to draft so others can edit it too. Then, when it's ready, preferably in the opinion of 1-2 other editors as well, you can submit it for creation.

On the other hand, if you have little to no time to devote any further, it's probably better to just drop a request for the article at Wikipedia:Requested articles.Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 19:09, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

hindi language article declined

Hello,

I had put a lot of effort to type a Hindi language article and submitted here for review, unfortunately, it was declined, what to do now? How to submit it in a specific language category? pls help. Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajsonani (talk • contribs) 13:45, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Ajsonani It looks like you are referring to Draft:एंटीवायरस. This is the English language Wikipedia - articles should be written in the English language. You could try submitting it to Hindi Wikipedia Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 13:53, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

thanks @ Girth,

P.S. there's good news and bad news at Hindi wikipedia. Bad news is Hindi wikipedia already has an article on the subject at ऐंटिवायरस सॉफ़्टवेयर and your draft is written like an essay without any sources making it unsuitable for Wikipedia. Good news is- the existing article there is a completely unsourced stub too, making it probably very very okay acceptable to merge it to that one (since neither is sourced). Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 19:21, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Informations about kpop groups

Hi, sorry for bothering you but I was looking at the page about kpop groups's names and I couldn't find the group called SF9 at the letter S. I just want to ask if you can add it... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.119.132.199 (talk) 19:56, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

What page were you looking at, specifically? List of South Korean idol groups (2010s) lists SF9, but List of K-pop artists does not, because it is a list of individual artists, rather than groups. Eman235/talk 20:13, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

I was invited here.

What is this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FrischAnimations (talk • contribs) 17:54, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Place to ask questions about how to do stuff at Wikipedia (English). Answers are by other editors, although at times an Administrator steps in to answer a question. David notMD (talk) 18:02, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

To be fair, an admin is just another editor, unless a situation specifically demands their toolset. Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 18:52, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, FrischAnimations, the Teahouse is a safe and friendly place where a whole load of experienced editors (some called 'Hosts') like to volunteer our time to help newcomers like you to understand how they can help improve the encyclopaedia that is Wikipedia. We are keen to explain things, to answer your questions, to welcome you, and to encourage you to edit and improve encyclopaedia pages, so we also welcome your questions. That said, we don't mess around. We will point out the rules which govern this site. And, should it be necessary, we take action to prevent people damaging the encyclopaedia if they can't accept why Wikipedia is here. It's certainly not to provide a free platform for anyone to post anything they like, or to promote themselves if the world at large hasn't already taken note of them. Those that think it is don't last long, and soon find their editing privileges revoked. (That's when an adminstrator may step in to block an account from further editing, or implement other rules). For example, your username suggests you might be trying to represent an online graphics stream by the same name. Are you? We don't allow usernames to promote organisations, so we require all editors to abandon promotional accounts and edit under a more anonymous username. So an admin could well issue a 'softblock' to your account, and ask you to re-register under a different account name instead. If you need further help or advice on this or any other issue, just ask. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 21:29, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Rose to fame

I've been on Wikipedia for almost a year, but I've never seen any guidelines concerning the phrase "rose to fame". Can someone direct me to the WP page about the phrase and how to avoid it, if such a page exists? (something like WP:ACCESS for example) – DarkGlow (talk) 09:47, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

WP:IDIOM? 09:50, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

WP:PEACOCK? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:44, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

@DarkGlow: While the exact wording is used here: MOS:CONTEXTLINK, in a description about contextual links (not as an example of what should or should not be done with the phrase), there is no page that specifically addresses it. In general, it usually comes across as puffery as pointed out above. Orville^talk 13:26, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Coming from LtCorbis or Belle Delphine by chance? The latter still has it, the former 13yr old rose to fame by the speed of which she rose to fame, or similar, IIRC, fortunately deleted now. –84.46.52.13 (talk) 16:10, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

@DarkGlow: I'm unclear which article(s) you're referring to when you talk about that phrase being used. But I'd suggest that WP:EUPHEMISM might explain why saying something more explicit and neutral is preferable, like "She became well known in 1989 when her album 'You For Me for Euphisms' was released, selling tons and tons of copies". You'll see I left another euphemism in there just for special effect! Nick Moyes (talk) 21:58, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Views on notability please?

I'd like to write a concise entry for Reach Community Projects (https://reachhaverhill.org.uk/)

Can I have views on notability please? Plenty of coverage about them in the regional press. Ride the Hurricane (talk) 11:48, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

My personal opinion is that this is too small and regional an organization - providing counseling and donated food and furniture to people in need - to warrant an article at Wikipedia. David notMD (talk) 12:01, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Founder was awarded an MBE for it last year - don't know if that adds? Ride the Hurricane (talk) 13:24, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Ride the Hurricane Notability is established by the existence of reliable, secondary, independent sources giving the organisation significant coverage. Take a look at WP:CORPDEPTH - if you believe that you have sources meet the requirements there, then the organisation would be notable. Ping me if you'd like me to look at the sources you've got. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 13:50, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

The notability of the founder and the organization are completely unrelated issues. See WP:INHERIT. You may however find significant coverage of the organization in articles about the founder. However (and without seeing the sources, this is a general guess), I too would guess that a regional organization like you describe would be notable. John from Idegon (talk) 13:58, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks both for the pointers/guidance. I'll take a good look at the suggested sections, ta. Ride the Hurricane (talk) 23:14, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library

Helped

How does the Wikipedia library work, and how can I use it? Does it have an FAQ page, or some introduction for users that are not familiar with it? --Puzzledvegetable|💬|📧|📜 21:48, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Puzzledvegetable, and welcome to the Teahouse. It takes a while to find it, but lower down on the Wikipedia Library page, there's a rather cryptic link to this 'About' page which should give you the information you seek. In essence, it allows editors to request access to online library resources that are not normally made available to the general public. Often, a rationale as to why you need access to a particular information dataset is required before your application for access is considered. I'm going to notify Ocaasi who has edited that page in the past and who helps run the project to suggest that a more visible FAQ/About link might be useful. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:28, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

declined edit for a new draft page

Hello,

I'm stuck and I don't know how to resolve the issue. I work at an agency, and this client wants his page up on Wikipedia. After creating content for it, I published it and added references. Everything got declined. The page is still a draft.

Page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Toufic_Maatouk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Copywriter961 (talk • contribs) 14:28, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Per comments at Draft:Toufic_Maatouk, you must declare a Paid relationship, the draft has no references, and the draft may contain copyright material copied from a website. David notMD (talk) 15:11, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi Copywriter961 good day. First of all you are have a conflict of interest here as you are a WP:PAID editor who recieves a fee to write an article for your client in a volunteer project. Wikipedia strongly discourage paid editor to write/edit effected article for it is very hard to write a neutral point of view content. Secondly, you need to disclose your COI on (1) your user page HERE-1 and the article talk page HERE-2 by following the instructions at WP:DISCLOSE. There is a comment made by the reviewer on the "grey panel" of the draft page and please click on blue colour text for additional information. In short, for an article to be accepted by Wikipedia, the subject need to deem notable and the content claimed need to be supported with significant coverage from WP:SECONDARY, reliable published sources for verification where by the sources talk about the subject "directly" in length and in dept. Sources from major newspapers and reliable journal are good sources and source can be in any languages. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 15:25, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Copywriter961 Please note that any article(not just "page") about your client is editable by anyone; it cannot be locked to the text your client might want to see there, you cannot prevent others from editing it, or exclusively dictate what appears there any more than any other editor. We are not concerned with whether an individual wants a Wikipedia article or not; we only have articles about subjects shown with significant coverage in independent reliable source to meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability, or more specifically, notable people. There are, in fact, good reasons to not want a Wikipedia article; any content, good or bad, can be in it as long as it appears in an independent source. 331dot (talk) 15:42, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

I would add that your draft has been deleted as a copyright violation. Please read WP:COPYVIO for more information. 331dot (talk) 15:43, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

@Copywriter961: Sorry to "pile on", but perhaps you and/or the client misunderstand the purpose of Wikipedia, or what Wikipedia is not, more specifically that it is not a means of promotion. Perhaps you can point the client to that article if they need an "official" explanation. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 23:59, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

References

It's been 8 months since I started editing, but they were all minor changes. Adding a full stop there, capitalizing a letter here, you know. But now I want to start making major changes, I know that major changes require references, but I cannot grasp how I can do references. Benjamin Borg (talk) 16:41, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Benjamin Borg - I take it that you're having difficulty with the technical bit of adding refs, rather than identifying reliable sources? Have you clicked on the 'Cite' button, just above the editing window? That presents you with a 'Templates' menu - select the right option (web for a website, book for a book, etc), then fill in the relevant fields. Give it a try, and feel free to drop me a note on my talk page if it's not making sense. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 17:39, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Welcome back to the Teahouse, Benjamin Borg. Although I and others always point to Help:Referencing for beginners, I actually think it's the worst help page we have here, as it's so long and off-putting for beginners. So here are some very basic instruction for inserting a new reference to an article that already has a section at its bottom headed "References":

• Every editor will inevitably be using one of our two editing tools ("Source Editor" or "Visual Editor") to add text. Both of these editing options have an obvious tools menu at the top of the page, albeit in slightly different positions.
• When editing a page, just look for the button labelled "Cite".
• Then position your cursor at the end of the factual statement in the article that you want to add a new reference to. Simply click the "Cite" button to reveal a box (or to select a simple template) into which you can enter all the author, title, date, publisher, url details, etc., etc. of your reference.
• Each editing tool varies slightly in how they operate. In Source Editor (which you will have used for editing the Teahouse page) you do have to click "Cite" and then select a further Template button on the left hand side of the editing toolbar. This lets you choose the best template into which you paste your reference details, according to whether you're citing a journal, a book, a newspaper or a website. There's also a Preview button to let you see what your details will look like before you decide to click the "'Insert" button to add your reference into the page.

Alternatively, in the Visual Editor, if you click the 'Cite' button it starts by offering to let you paste a url or ISBN number and attempts to automatically look up the reference details for you. Neither work perfectly, so manually checking and tweaking to get the best reference is always advisable. But being aware that you can add reference details from within either editing tool is something that's not really made terribly obvious in the help page referred to above.

Be aware that, whilst the content of your reference is actually inserted after the factual statement you added to an article, the full reference text appears automatically at the bottom of the page in a section marked "References". All that appears "inline" within the article is a small number in square brackets at the end of the relevant sentence. This corresponds with the number that appears in the References section. So please don't try to add your references into that section ... it won't work like that! Do give these guidance notes a try, and let me know how you get on. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 21:48, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

To expand slightly on the above, in the "source editor", after you bring up one of the cite template windows, you'll see a button beside some fields (e.g. URL, ISBN), which is a good way to quickly fill out some of the fields. This means that you can put a value (like a URL copied from your browser) in the field, click the button, and it will look up and fill in some of the fields for you (sometimes after a delay of up to 20 seconds). Most of the time, it does not correctly grab the date fields, but if it does, you may have to edit them to the correct format to agree with the format used by other cites already in the article, per MOS:RETAIN. Use Show/hide extra fields to reveal the Date and other fields. Sometimes, the author fields are wrong/missing as well. Use Preview to see the result before it is inserted. Note (in case it's not obvious) that you have to position the cursor in the right position where you want the cite to appear, which should be immediately after the material you are citing (no space in between). Thanks! —[AlanM1(talk)]— 00:24, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

More than one infobox

Can a single person have more than one infobox in the same article? Case is Claude G. Bowers. He has an infobox as officeholder but he was mainly known as a writer and I'd like to add the writer infobox. deisenbe (talk) 01:32, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Generally no, but you can embed one infobox in another, for an example see Tessa Violet. –84.46.52.119 (talk) 03:03, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

How exactly can you create an infobox when there is no infobox in a Page?

--Benjamin Borg (talk) 09:54, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Just find a similar article with infobox, copy the infobox from it and change the fields accordingly. Ruslik_Zero 10:15, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

To add, if you want to find out all the fields for the infobox, including ones that might be missing in the one you copied, search for "Template:Infobox [Name of the infobox]"; such as Template:Infobox officeholder. The infobox in the template page has all the fields listed. The page also provides other information about the template.Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 10:43, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

How to decide which subject should be added to Wikipedia?

I have been thinking this days that should I add a new Wikipedia article about a very big internet trend event in Myanmar(Burma).The event start from a child abusement in Capital city of Myanmar,NaypyiTaw.The trial for that case has been made to man but Myanmar people thinks that it is not a justice movement for the Government.So the started making hashtags in facebook #JuscticeForVictoria.An acronym for the victim toddler.Demonstrations in some cities are about to be made.So my curious question is,should I create an article about that event? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lwin Moe Hainn (talk • contribs) 15:51, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

@Lwin Moe Hainn: Welcome to the Teahouse! To answer your question, see Wikipedia:Notability. To determine if a subject is worthy of being included in Wikipedia, make sure it has “significant coverage” in other reliable secondary sources. Look up the abuse event you want to make an article about online for reliable sources. I hope this helps. LPS and MLP Fan (LittlestPetShop) (MyLittlePony) 16:46, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Adding content onto a Wikipage

Hi! Although I created my account early last year, I really haven't had much experience with the functionalities of Wikipedia (I'm trying, though!). I was recently tasked by my employer to update and create Wikipedia pages for members of my faculty at my university. I recently found out, however, that Wikipedia guidelines suggest that someone in my situation is strongly discouraged from editing articles about my university's faculty and that I should instead suggest changes to articles using their talk pages and let an uninvolved editor evaluate the suggestions. My question is, how do I provide suggestions on their talk pages? Thank you for your time! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikijg (talk • contribs) 18:04, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Wikijg. First of all, you have to comply with the Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure, and familiarize yourself with our guidelines regarding conflict of interest. If the faculty member already has a Wikipedia biography, follow the procedure at Wikipedia:Edit requests. For those that don't, please read the notability guideline for academics and Your first article. Use the Articles for Creation process. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:20, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

verifiability on the site

dear Wikipedia,

would you allow a page on the grading system of games by letter? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.189.154.152 (talk) 22:33, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. There is an article on Video game content rating system if that's what you mean. 331dot (talk) 22:50, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Problem with a map

Hi - could someone who knows more than me about templates that automatically add maps take a look at Ballindalloch Castle? The map is a regional one showing Aberdeenshire and parts of Moray, but it has an insert showing where the region is within Scotland. The problem is that the pushpin for the castle appears in a part of the map that is obscured by the insert - so it looks like the castle is actually located on the border between East Lothian and Northumberland. The map is, I think, being inserted automatically by the template, so I'm not sure what to do for the best. Thanks for any advice GirthSummit _(blether) 18:34, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

I don't think it's a template issue. It's the wrong map to use. The map is meant to show stuff that are in the light region that's completely uncovered, Aberdeenshire, I think that one's called. The castle is located in the dark one, Banffshire or something. So, need to change the map to Banffshire map and copy the coordinates from this infobox. Best map I could find was the whole of Scotland. Is that OK? You know the country better, I'm assuming. So, maybe, you could find a better map with some browsing. Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 19:55, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Usedtobecool, Ah - thanks, I'd overlooked that field, that's what was causing it. The map you've used is certainly better than what was there before; there might be a better map available, could you point me at a link where I could review available maps and maybe choose a more locally relevant one? GirthSummit _(blether) 20:18, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Girth Summit, unfortunately, I do not have a great deal of knowledge/experience in that area, either. I use/d a lot of educated guessing. For example, both the previous image and mine are an SVG map, so we know SVG works for sure, whatever else might too. Both images use the word "location" in the filename so it's supposed to be a location map in SVG format. What I did was simply try Banffshire in place of Aberdeenshire in the first edit, when that didn't work, I used Scotland, coz that's a significant enough place to have to have one. One way to start an exhaustive search could be to start from Category:SVG maps at wikimedia commons and narrowing it down from there. Other way might be to search on google image for "Scotland", etc. with "site:commons.wikimedia.org" and "ext:svg" parameters. Another way would be to look at authors of a few of the svg images of UK or Scotland and ask them if they made one that you could use or would consider making one you could use. A more difficult but sureshot way would be to look at a tutorial and make one yourself since it can't be that hard, and could be as easy as cutting out a portion from the map of scotland that I used. Since it's a vector image, cutting it doesn't reduce it's resolution, it ought to be an easy/straightforward process for someone who knows how. I can be of no better help here, unfortunately. Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 20:51, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Usedtobecool has done an excellent job there. I am a connoisseur of incompetently-done location maps, and that one displayed a form of incompetence I had not come across before. But Usedtobecool has replaced it by a most praiseworthy location map. Maproom (talk) 21:01, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Maproom, UsertobecoolUsedtobecool thanks for the feedback. Sorry if I was insufficiently effusive in my last post - the map currently used is massively better than the one that was there before, and I'm perfectly happy for that to be the one we use. If there was an easy way to search, I thought I might noodle about trying to see if there was a 'Moray' or 'Speyside' one that might give more local detail, but I have no problem at all with the Scotland one. (I'm glad to have discovered a new and interesting form of incompetence - that makes me feel kind of special.) GirthSummit _(blether) 21:39, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Maproom, high praises indeed! So, Girth Summit, how did you find the Moray one? Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 23:10, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Ah, well - after you told me how you found the Scotland one, I tried the same approach and typed in a few different options after the word 'Scotland' - this seemed like the best one to me. Thanks again for the help! GirthSummit _(blether) 23:15, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

LOL! So, it did indeed help to be more familiar afterall. I could never have known to search for Moray instead of Banffshire and so wouldn't ever have gotten anywhere. Haha! See you around!Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 23:22, 5 July 2019 (UTC)