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!helper Can you help me to complete the article? (adding a logo to the information block)

Hello, I face a problem with adding a logo to the information block on the right side of the page. The system declines all kind of jpeg pictures that I tried to upload there.

Could you tell me, why the site keeps on declining all pictures and photographs submissions there?Nat.johnson (talk) 11:31, 13 October 2017 (UTC) Nat.johnson (talk) 11:33, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

To use an image on Wikipedia, follow these steps:

Ascertain carefully the copyright status of the image. If in doubt, ask. As a rule of thumb, images that you did not take yourself are almost always under copyright, and images that you took can be released under a free license.
If the image is in the public domain, or under a free license compatible with Wikimedia Commons' license requirements, or if you hold the copyrights and are willing to release the image under such a license, upload it on Wikimedia Commons using the Upload Wizard.
If the image is neither public domain nor available under a free license, check whether it satisfies all non-free content criteria. In particular, photographs of living people almost never qualify. If it does not, it cannot be used on Wikipedia; do not upload it. If it does, upload it on Wikipedia (not on Wikimedia Commons).
Once the image has been uploaded to the Wikimedia Foundation's servers (either to Commons or Wikipedia), follow the steps in the picture tutorial to place the image in an article.

Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 11:47, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

How do I get from my User Page to Edit Request Rcatownsend (talk) 11:13, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

I have written a biographical article on a cocktail mixer and creator and wish to know whether this would be acceptable in its present format Rcatownsend (talk) 11:13, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Rcatownsend and welcome to the Teahouse. You have correctly created Draft:Massimiliano Romano where there is a button for you submit for review, but don't do that yet because there are two problems. First, the text of the article is currently on your user page which is not an approprite place for it. Please copy it to your draft (and also to somewhere on your hard drive so that you have a backup copy), then delete the inappropriate text from your user page. Secondly, you need to read WP:References for beginners and add some in-line references to WP:Reliable sources where the subject has been written about in detail. If you cannot find these, then your subject is not sufficiently notable in the Wikipedia sense to have an article here. Dbfirs 12:29, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Where to go with a correction from here

I have edited Wikipedia pages in the past and as I have written in the past I have studied the life of Herman Armour Webster for many years. Webster's Wikipedia page contains at least one error of fact. Webster did not die in New York but died in Paris. I left a note about this on the article's talk page. My note includes includes references. The page's author seems to be ignoring my comments. Is it proper Wikipedia practice just to make the correction since the author of the page, despite references which are fairly unassailable, does not seem to be interested in doing so? Nicodemus (talk) 23:50, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Hey Nicodemus. One of the great things about Wikipedia is that we're all the authors of every single page. No one person is tasked with writing any one article, and no one person is tasked with maintaining it either. Looking at the page's history, I'm seeing about a dozen or more authors over the past couple of years. Most of the time, when you spot a problem, the appropriate thing is to be bold, become one of those many authors, and fix it. GMG ^talk 00:20, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. One of the questions was whether or not WP:Bold (I believe) is the term is really an acceptable procedure. I will get to it within 72 hours. Nicodemus (talk) 14:28, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

create a quiz question template with mulitple choice radio buttons

I'd like to create a template which allows the input of multiple choice questions and gives a result immediately upon the choice being selected by the user.

I think it would be a good idea to have quizzes as an extended part of the PAG pages, to help users understand practical application of our guidelines and the range of flexibility that they allow. I'd like to start sandboxing some material and would like some help with the markup. I'm not a coder and would get it wrong, but I can usually understand it once it's been written. Edaham (talk) 07:15, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

@Edaham: That functionality doesn't exist on Wikipedia. There are two options I can think of as workarounds:

Use the method at User:Ahecht/sandbox/quiz to fake it.
Create an interactive webpage at Toolforge

--Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 15:47, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Nervous about trying again with article about Hillier Parker May & Rowden

I have asked whether it might be worth trying again with my attempt to contribute to Wikipedia. I have been told that the article might be a good fit. The article is about a company mentioned in several academic text-books, and in Estates Gazette, the trade journal for commercial property, almost every issue for 100 years.

But I feel anxious. I am afraid of the "New Article Patrol" and the "Deletionists".

The first time, I made a lot of newcomers' mistakes. Some of the dismissive comments were "Did little for 100 years, before being bought by another company, delete." "A non-notable company" and "This is not the place for your 'in memoriam'".

After improving it, I then got feedback saying it "might be notable" (hurray) but then there could be "too many references". Too many. That's because I went to Reading University Library to look at archive copies of Estates Gazette and this seems to count against me?

I could put it in my "sandbox" and ask you if you'd like to look at it? But how do I know, if I try again, am I going to run into exactly the same people again who have given me so much grief the first time? I don't know if I have the emotional strength to attempt this. Advice appreciated. Philjones573 (talk) 13:59, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the teahouse @Philjones573:. My advise (and I say this all the time to new users) is to first focus on editing existing articles. There is a HUGE amount of work that needs to be done on existing articles. You can use User:Suggestbot to give you suggestions as to articles that need work, what needs to be done to them (e.g., add references) and how to do what needs to be done. I edited for several years before I created my first new article. But if you do create a new article you shouldn't think of the process as giving you grief. It's not personal, no one is trying to attack you, we are all in it together trying to make Wikipedia as good as it can be. Your idea of putting a draft in your sandbox and then asking for feedback is probably a good one but first I suggest you try editing existing article. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 14:37, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Philjones573. I'm sorry you had such a bad experience last time. I do sympathise with you: a lot of editors are completely tactless when they've got it into their head that an article doesn't belong, and apparently forget that, 'notable' or not, it is the product of someone else's hard work. However, I'm afraid I don't think that trying to recreate Hillier Parker May and Rowden is a good idea. It was deleted after a well-attended AfD, which means that there is a strong consensus that we should not have an article on the company. It is a kick in the teeth to have your work deleted, I know, but at the end of the day this is a collaborative project and that means we sometimes have to accept the community's decision even when we disagree.

If you do recreate the article, whether directly or via your sandbox and AfC, the fact that it was previously deleted via AfD means that it's highly likely somebody will try to delete it again. And since I assume nothing has changed since the last AfD in terms of the notability of the company, it's likely that will again result in the article being deleted. I'd hate to see you waste your time like that. It sounds like you have a lot of knowledge and access to some high-quality research resources; why not take MadScientistX11's advice and try editing a different topic? – Joe (talk) 15:35, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Ask for an undeletion for the original and have it moved to your userspace, rather than type it all from scratch. - X201 (talk) 15:42, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Here's the original deletion discussion, it may help others point out some of the concerns people in the discussion had. - X201 (talk) 15:52, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

What's the policy on users removing warnings from their talk page?

I just noticed that @121.52.149.146: removed a warning I put on their talk page for an unconstructive edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:121.52.149.146&diff=next&oldid=803754568 I know that a user's talk page is pretty much theirs to do with as they please but I thought warnings were an exception. Is that more of a guideline (so just let it stand) or is it a firm policy (so I should revert the edit)? MadScientistX11 (talk) 14:27, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Removal of the warning is taken as an acknowledgment that the user has read the warning. Guidance is at WP:Talk page guidelines#User talk pages. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:36, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

OK, thanks. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 14:39, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

I have a quick follow-up question, if MadScientistX11 doesn't mind -- Editor gets a warning for vandalism/unconstructive edit/etc and then deletes it from their talk page. The next time a warning is being given, is it upon the reverting editor to then view the entire history of their talk page to ensure that a previous, short term warning hasn't already been given? (*so instead of getting a second warning for back-to-back violations, it'd be seen as a first strike*) - NsTaGaTr ^(Talk) 14:50, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

@NsTaGaTr: You are kind-of supposed to look through the page history to check, but even if you don't, a second level-1 warning is not considered a "first strike" for WP:AIV purposes. WP:AIV may require an unheeded level-4 warning before taking action (and even that I am not sure), but that is all; 3 level-1 warnings for the same kind of issues can certainly push you to escalate the next one right to level 4. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 15:14, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

@NsTaGaTr: Generally, you only need to look at the past month's edit histories (and the edit summary should indicate that a warning was placed, so it's usually just a quick glance at the history page), as warnings shouldn't escalate based on very old behavior. This is especially true of IP addresses, where the user of an IP address a month ago may be a completely different actual person. It's also a good idea to look at a user's contributions before warning them, because if the vandalism is part of a consistent pattern of vandalism you can start higher than level 1 (see WP:UWLEVELS). --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 15:16, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks for the useful information. I've tried to remember to look at Recent Contributions to ensure that there wasn't more cleanup to do along the way, but it never even occurred to me to check the Talk Page history :) /insert "The More You Know.gif" here/ - NsTaGaTr ^(Talk) 15:42, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

and, to make life easier for subsequent editors who look at the offender's talk page, you should make it clear in your edit summary that you were adding a warning. I'm pleased to see that you've been doing that :-) Maproom (talk) 15:46, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Great additional info. Thanks! --MadScientistX11 (talk) 16:25, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

how to add something (a ISBN number) to a reference

I would like to add an ISBN number to a book someone else quoted as a reference. When I try to edit the article I do not get the text of the paragraph 'references' (article: Suspended chord) Frankwiebenga (talk) 14:15, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. If you try to edit the "References" section you'll indeed get nothing because all you get is the reflist template, which aggregates all the references found in the article. You'll need to edit the article body, where the reference is found. Some of the references are in text mode, so you could just type in the ISBN on those. If a reference template is used, say template:cite book, then you can add the isbn field, "|isbn= ". Is that what you're looking for? 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 14:23, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Oh yes, if you're not familiar with it, I recommend Referencing for Beginners. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 14:24, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello Frankwiebenga. The references are actually defined in the main body of the article, and the 'References' section is automatically generated afterwards, which is why you can't see it while editing. So assuming you're using the Visual Editor, simply the find the place in the text where the reference you want to edit is cited, click the superscript number, and then click "edit". This will open a form where you can change the ISBN and other details. – Joe (talk) 14:26, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps one variation too many but for references not using a citation template (or other times you simply want to insert an ISBN) there is an ISBN template. Insert it following the reference text: <ref>reference text{{isbn|978-0679437222}}</ref> Gab4gab (talk) 17:25, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

New article

How I can make a article and please tell me that , from where I go to page where I easily make directly article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by نواب صفی محمد اللہ (talk • contribs) 17:53,13 October 2017 (UTC)

@نواب صفی محمد اللہ: Read the page WP:YFA, which explains how to create an article, and it includes a link to the article wizard to guide you through making a draft which you can work on and then get reviewed when it is ready. RudolfRed (talk) 19:09, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Renaming pages

Hi! I'm a new editor and i wanted to know how to rename a wiki page. Specifically, this is for the Robert Zagone page. I wanted to add "N." for a middle initial. I can easily do it w/ in the text but i cant figure out how to change the whole page. Cauldroncakes (talk) 20:12, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Cauldroncakes. It sounds like what you are looking for is the move function. – Joe (talk) 21:24, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you very much!

Cauldroncakes (talk) 00:13, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Archive box

Hello, can someone please help me, my archive box isn't working on my talk page User talk:Nikolaiho. Thank you!NikolaiHo^☎️ 03:18, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. Part of the confusion is that you asked the archive process to start with a counter of 10, instead of 1, so your first archive is at User talk:Nikolaiho/Archive 10 and your current one at User talk:Nikolaiho/Archive 11. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:11, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks David Biddulph, I think I fixed that problem, but why is the archive box still displaying no archives yet (create)? Thanks. NikolaiHo^☎️ 03:56, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Presumably the archive box is looking for archive files starting at User talk:Nikolaiho/Archive 1, which you don't have. I guess that you need to rename /10 to /1, /11 to /2, change your counter from 1 to 2, and (to avoid future problems) delete the redirects which would be left at /10 and /11. Alternatively you could presumably revert your talk page to the unarchived version, delete the existing archives at /10 and /11, set up the archive request with counter at 1, and let the bot start again from square 1. --David Biddulph (talk) 06:22, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

This charity has some outside articles...can i write about it?

Shesupply is a recent charity organization, with a google search I have found 3 articles not written by the company, but I don't know if that makes it notable enough to write about on wikipedia.71.40.71.8 (talk) 01:16, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, IP editor 71.40.71.8. That depends on a lot of factors. My preliminary opinion is that a "recent" charity with only three independent sources is unlikely to be notable. The quality of those sources needs to be studied. If these are lengthy, detailed and very different articles devoted to Shesupply published in respected publications in London, New York and Tokyo, then perhaps the charity is notable. On the other hand, brief, routine, repetitive coverage in local newspapers is probably insufficient to establish notability. There is a broad continuum between these extremes, and this is a matter of editorial judgment. Please read Your first article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:43, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi, 71. I searched your subject on Google also. Keeping in mind that Google results are weighted to your locality, the only hits I got were the organization and its Facebook page. Got numerous hits on Gnews to a newspaper collum called "The Amish Cook", but it appears the author simply has style where she writes "you can ask that she supply...". In order to show notability for a 501c3, you'll need multiple articles in journalistic or academic sources that are completely independent of the organization (ie, no press releases or interviews) that cover the subject in detail. Additionally, at least one source has to be a widely circulated (think Pacific Northwest, not Seattle) source or be from a distant geograpic location. John from Idegon (talk) 04:15, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank You71.40.71.8 (talk) 11:28, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

just want to know that how should we make our own company wiki pages

just want to know that how should we make our own company wiki pages RVF Production (talk) 13:31, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

@RVF Production: Hello and welcome. The short answer is that you should not make a Wikipedia article about your company. Wikipedia is not social media for companies to have pages; this is an encyclopedia, which has articles about subjects shown to be notable with independent reliable sources. Wikipedia has no interest in what an article subject says about itself, but in what third parties state about it. You have what Wikipedia calls a conflict of interest (please click WP:COI to learn more) and as such you should not directly write about your company. Not every company merits an article here. If your company does, you should allow uninvolved people to write about it.

I would also add that you will need to change your username, as usernames that are the same as a company name are not permitted. I will post information about this on your user talk page for you to read. 331dot (talk) 13:35, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

I would lastly add that if you are a paid representative or employee of "RVF Production", you are required by Wikipedia's Terms of Use to review and comply with the paid editing policy, which you should read about at WP:PAID. 331dot (talk) 13:38, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Creating new page

I try to create a new page, but I can not create it. How to create a new page in wikipedia ? Please help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Masum sheikh (talk • contribs) 18:13, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Use the Article Wizard. Dysklyver 20:23, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Agreed, A Den Jentyl Ettien Avel Dysklyver, but Masum sheikh I would strongly advise you to study Your first article before you try. --ColinFine (talk) 22:25, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Testing

Test test test. this is a link. this is a link to stuff. this is confusing.

Hi, Wikipeedia is so freaking awesome, and welcome to Wikipedia! If you want to do more testing of the editing syntax (which is a great idea!), I would reccomend doing it in the sandbox, which is a page created just for testing stuff out. Let me know if you have any questions! Margalob (talk) 03:09, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Coool! I figured out how to make that link go to swiss cheese instead of the sandbox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikipeedia is so freaking awesome (talk • contribs) 03:11, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

I reverted your redirect, because WP:Sandbox should be there for other people to use. If you want to experiment you can use your own user sandbox, which you can create at User:Wikipeedia is so freaking awesome/sandbox and which is accessible via the "Sandbox" list at the top of any page while you are logged in. --David Biddulph (talk) 03:25, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Why do you redirecting me to Wikipedia:New user landing page

I can't create an article, it say that I need to setup my account!?!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ToTheYolos2 (talk • contribs) 07:02, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Dear, Welcome to teahouse! it is a new wikipedia policy that autoconfirmed users (who are here for least 4 days and have made at least ten edits) can create an article. After becoming autoconfirmed user you will not be redirected to new user landing page, but make sure you have read this page before trying to create an article here. Also remember to sign your posts by tying four tildes (~~~~) whenever you leave a message on any talk/ help page.Don'twasteTime (talk) 07:32, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Top of page banners.

How do I add and what are the guidelines for using those banners at the top of a page that warn about spelling or grammar or the like.

I assume it's using some form of {{whatever}} in that format.

"I feel like we need a song... to sing... while editing" (talk) 10:03, 15 October 2017 (UTC) (Do I have to sign here? Sorry :P)

I think you are talking about {{copy edit}}. Don'twasteTime (talk) 10:14, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi TraumatikII. Yes, they're templates. There is a list and guidelines at Wikipedia:Template messages/Cleanup and the general format is to put e.g. {{cleanup|Date=October 2017}} at the top of the article you want to tag. However a far easier way to use them is to enable Twinkle, which will add a small menu to the tabs on the top right of a page that (among others things) lets you pick cleanup templates from a nicely formatted list. Happy tagging! – Joe (talk) 10:19, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for helping! "I feel like we need a song... to sing... while editing" (talk) 10:23, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

How to post an article about temples.

Hi!I am Manojjainpapriwal & want to add an article about Ruphari Jain Temple , Ruphari.Please help me out of it.Manojjainpapriwal (talk) 15:53, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello Manojjainpapriwal. You can find instructions at Wikipedia:Your first article. – Joe (talk) 16:06, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Again help

How to protect my user page with semi protection.Pl98^{Send me message} 16:04, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Pl98. All user pages are automatically semi-protected. See WP:UPROT for more information. – Joe (talk) 16:09, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

And how to the put User page Request and where.Pl98^{Send me message} 16:12, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

And Sorry for the wasting your time.Pl98^{Send me message} 16:13, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

No worries, Pl98, that's what the Teahouse is here for. To clarify, your user page is already semi-protected. You do not need to request it. It only needs full protection if it is (repeatedly) vandalised. As nobody has edited your user page except yourself, you do not need to request full protection. – Joe (talk) 16:34, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you So much Joe Roe. Nice to talk to you. Pl98^{Send me message} 16:39, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

How do i post a message on Wikipedia?

I dont know. Usercat13 (talk) 10:06, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

You have just posted a message here, Usercat13. You even signed your message: well done! There are many different places where you might want to post a message: who do you want to communicate with, for what purpose? (Note that I replied to your message by editing the same section, and indented my answer by strting with a single colon (:). If you want to reply further, I suggest you put your answer below mine, starting with two colons. --ColinFine (talk) 10:15, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

: OK.

That was a space and a colon. I've used two colons. If you reply to my message, use three (and no space). Dbfirs 12:03, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

What happens if Iam not signed in and I create a page and sign it with this: RCNesland (talk) 12:49, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello, RCNesland, and welcome to the Teahouse. First, if you are not signed in, your signature will display your IP address, not a username. Second, you should only sign pages you create if they are talk pages (with the prefix Talk:, Draft talk:, User talk:, etc. in their URLs) — not articles or even your user page, where the attribution is found on the article history tab. Lastly, if you are the same person who posted above as Usercat13, you should choose one username and only use that one; if you are not the same person, you should have placed your question under its own section heading. If you are a different person, just say so and a Teahouse volunteer will create the heading for you. —GrammarFascist _contribs ^talk 19:06, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi

I am looking for anyone with an interest in Spies, Espionage or Mass surveillance to join Wikipedia:WikiProject Espionage. We are a group of Wikipedians devoted to improving articles related to espionage and global surveillance. If you're interested, consider adding yourself to the list of participants and joining the discussion on the talkpage. Dysklyver 21:44, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

MY NAME NOT REPRESENTED IN RITCHIE VALENS WIKIPEDIA...

I am the musical biographer of the following: RITCHIE VALENS, FIRST LATINO ROCKER (Beverly Mendheim--I am on GOOGLE), Bilingual Review Press, Arizona State Univ. (1987,2002),yet my name was not represented in REFERENCES nor REPRESENTATION IN SOCIAL MEDIA. I requested this correction in 2016; it h as yet to happen. Verification of this work is available on GOOGLE.Beverly Mendheim24.143.100.60 (talk) 01:34, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello IP User, I think you are mistaken on what the reference list on Ritchie Valens page is. The list is references used to write the article on Richie. Since your book was not used as a reference in the writing of the article, it won't need to be added to the list. NZFC^(talk) 01:54, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

But, it is good to know there is another source that can be used to expand the article in the future. I would recommend framing your comments on the talk page that way, because then editors who work on the article will know to look into your work to write additional content on Valens' biography. I JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 01:57, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Note: Mendheim's talk page comments from 2016 can be found here. I JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 01:58, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Help

How to Reverted editing. And i can't Reverted editing so please help me.Pl98 (talk) 13:08, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

@Pl98, welcome! Your question does not tell what you really mean by "reverted". Edits are reverted from page history's "undo" option. Please let us know what you really want to ask.Don'twasteTime (talk) 13:22, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

How do such How to do this Reverted.Pl98 (talk) 14:41, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

@Pl98, I suggest use wikipedia in desktop version. When you open its page history, it gives you an option to revert an edit. Press 'undo' to the edit you want to revert. It will say undo that revision. proceed to affirmate. So there you can easily save the page in its previous version. Don'twasteTime (talk) 15:30, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Just A minutes, I'll try..Pl98^{Send me message} 15:33, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

@Don'twasteTime Sorry i can't doing.. only show Undo, not showing revert.

Pl98^{Send me message} 15:41, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Pl98. The thing you click to revert doesn't say "revert", it says "undo". Sorry that that's a bit confusing. —GrammarFascist _contribs ^talk 18:55, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Sorry! Pl98 ^(Talk) 04:19, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Why was my article rejected?

Hi. I am a new user to Wikipedia. I tried to submit my first article today (October 16) and I wanted to know why it was rejected. If you have the answer, please let me know. I have been working very hard on trying to learn about Wikipedia and I have been working hard on my page. Thanks.

Sincerely, Ezra Costa (NerdyGamer429)NerdyGamer429 (talk) 02:21, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello NerdyGamer429 and welcome to the Teahouse.

I'm assuming we are talking about Draft:2018 Mobil 1 Cup Series. Since you signed as Ezra Costa, it appears you are writing about a subject for which you have a conflict of interest. This connection should be disclosed on your user page or on the talk page of the draft.

The main reason your draft was rejected was because it is not based on reliable sources. In fact, it has no citations at all. Unless and until this competition is written about by someone independent of you and the contest, and published in a place where interested readers can verify the information, it cannot have an article on WP. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:31, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Create a page

Please telle that how can I create aWikipedia page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fajar Shaikh (talk • contribs)

@Fajar Shaikh: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Please understand that successfully creating a new Wikipedia article is one of the hardest things to do here. It takes time, practice, and effort. Many users edit here for years without creating an article. New users who are most successful at creating new articles worked their way up by starting to make small edits to existing articles, to learn how Wikipedia works and what is being looked for. Users who dive in to creating articles often end up disappointed and with hurt feelings when their articles are not accepted or even deleted. I would encourage you to hold off on creating articles and take some time to learn about Wikipedia, which you can start doing by using The Wikipedia Adventure, a tutorial structured like a game.

However, if you still want to start creating an article, you should read Your First Article, located at WP:YFA, to learn how to do so. 331dot (talk) 11:51, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

How to get started

I'm new on Wikipedia and i'm trying to create a profile but it says what I've written is advertising and should be deleted. Can anyone assist me on how to start my article and where to edit my details? Jyzle RightNow (talk) 13:08, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

@Jyzle RightNow: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Your use of the language "profile" suggests to me that you have a common misunderstanding about what Wikipedia is, which I will try to clarify. Wikipedia is not social media like Facebook for users to have "profiles". Wikipedia is an encyclopedia which has articles about subjects shown to be notable(click WP:N to review) with independent reliable sources(WP:RS). Wikipedia is not interested in what an article subject says about itself, but in what third parties state about it. As such, autobiographies are highly discouraged(though not forbidden). If all you wish to do is post information about yourself for the world to see, you should use actual social media to do so. If you have reviewed the notability guidelines for biographies located at WP:BIO and believe that you merit a proper Wikipedia article, it is highly suggested that you allow others to write it. It is possible to indirectly create an article at Articles for Creation, but again, if that's not what you are interested in doing, please go to actual social media.

I would add that you created your page on your user page, which is not article space, but a place to describe yourself within the context of your Wikipedia editing. See WP:USERPAGE for what is permitted on your user page. If you have other questions, please ask. 331dot (talk) 13:21, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

@Jyzle RightNow: You say "it says what I've written is advertising", but there is no doubt about it at all: the page was a completely unambiguous attempt to use Wikipedia for advertising. The page was peppered with such language as "one of Bloemfontein’s most talented upcoming stars", "soon to be pronounced as one of the greatest", "excellence", and you even gave an email address for "bookings". Wikipedia is not a medium for promoting or publicising yourself, your career, or your work. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:54, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

About the page Emilian Vettath CMI

Respected sir, I have created a page on beloved late Rev. Emilian Vettath CMI, a saintly priest. I want to publish the page. I am creating a page for the first time. So there are confusions. Also I need to add an image,which I don't know how to add. Please help me to create this page.

Yours sincerely,

Eapen Varghese — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eapensramp (talk • contribs) 15:16, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Eapensramp, and welcome to the Teahouse. Creating a new article in Wikipedia is one of the hardest tasks we have; but please understand that articles must be neutrally written, and based almost entirely on reliable published sources that are completely unconnected with the subject. Wikipedia has little interest in anything the subject of an article says or does, except as commented on by independent parties; and no interest in what their friends or associates say or think about them. The fact that you describe Vettath above as "beloved" and "saintly" suggests that it is going to be difficult for you to write in a sufficiently neutral way. I suggest that you study Your first article, and then spend a few weeks or months editing other articles and learning how Wikipedia works. After that, if you think that it is appropriate for you to write an article about him, you can use the article wizard to create a draft and get it reviewed by indpendent editors. --ColinFine (talk) 15:55, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

What might qualify as Independent Sources

I recently sent a page on a noted Neuro-otoloogist (Gerard J. Gianoli, MD). He was a primary focus of a book (which I cited-"A Hole In My Life, by Phillipa Thomson ISBN: 978-0-9935989-0-6). The book summed up a portion of his career. My pending Wikipedia page was rejected for not having "Independent" sources. The Doctor has been published in numerous medical journals, authored book chapters in many medical textbooks and given a number of classes and seminars. The mainstream book that I selected was written by an independent author and also the focus of an article by The Guardian (UK) newspaper. I am now poised to put"independent sources" into the Wikipedia page, but do not know exactly how to proceed. My thought had been that a book about an American Physician/Scientist by a British Author and a British newspaper would qualify as "Independent." The Doctor's Published writings are voluminous and have been published in a variety of outlets. Are those what is being sought, in order to qualify the page for inclusion in Wikipedia? Sharon Prokop (talk) 16:05, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

@Sharon Prokop: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Independent sources are sources which are not written by someone associated with the subject, or the subject themselves. If you have independent reliable sources(click WP:RS to review what reliable sources are) as you state, they just need to be incorporated into your draft in such a way that they support the content of the article. I see you have a link to a Guardian article in the draft, it needs any other independent sources you have. If you haven't already done so you may wish to read Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 16:15, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

If you need help in citing sources, you may wish to read WP:CITE. 331dot (talk) 16:16, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Looking for help to publish an article on HIP (Honouring Indigenous Peoples)

my submission was declined on 16 October 2017 by WikiDan61 (talk). I am looking to publish a non-bias article about HIP (Honouring Indigenous Peoples) organization. Please let me know if anyone can assist me.

HIP (Honouring Indigenous Peoples) is a partnership between Canada's Indigenous Peoples and Rotarians. HIP envisions a Canada where every Indigenous person has the same educational opportunities as other Canadians, and every Canadian resident is engaged in building positive Indigenous relationships. HIP is aligned with the Truth and Reconciliation calls-to-action[1] and their mission, goals and activities are initiated by the First Nations, Inuit and Métis people they serve.

HIP is incorporated under the Corporations Act (Ontario) as a not-for-profit organization and is a registered charity (BN: 885709212RR0001[2]) under the income Tax Act (Canada)

HIP is a not-for-profit registered charity and its Board of Directors is comprised of 50% Indigenous People and 50% Rotarians.

HIP believes that education is the ticket out of poverty and that First Nations, Inuit and Métis people should have equitable access to education opportunities. HIP’s Indigenous Ally program is a movement that helps break the cycle of poverty and eliminate social isolation[3] through education while enabling strategic change, building long-term relationships and establishing resources for First Nation communities.

HIP strategically builds relationships and connects Allies (Rotary Clubs, Schools, Churches and other community groups) with First Nation Communities to remove education obstacles and inspire learning. Through fundraising and collection activities, these Allies provide winter clothing[4] to make it safe for children to attend school, nutritional food to allow students to focus on learning, books, technology and supplies to support First Nation classrooms and bursary’s for continued education. HIP encourages Indigenous youth to stay in school and achieve their full potential through sports and cultural activities including, but not limited to, hockey equipment, playgrounds and coaching clinics, such as training camps and canoe trips. Having partnered to successfully deliver a third canoe trip, HIP’s “Paddle for Truth & Reconciliation”[5] program has been expanded to include and build relationships between Indigenous and non-Indigenous youth. Additionally, HIP has launched a new Indigenous financial literacy program designed to help students make the transition from school to work or college.

HIP works in partnership with many groups including the Lieutenant Governor of Ontario, Trucks-for-Change, Wasaya Air, The Gord Downie & Chanie Wenjack Fund‎, Detour Mines, Tides, INAC, Soul of the Mother, KAIROS, Kids Against Hunger, One Laptop Per Child Canada, First Nations Chiefs, Councils and School Principals, Chiefs of Ontario, French Catholic School Boards of Ontario, The Bridge Prison Ministry, Kawartha Mission, Canadian Council for Aboriginal Business, Dunbarton-Fairport Church, Value Village, Kawartha Truth and Reconciliation Support Group and Ontario Camps Association.

Thank you - johnJohnCurrie (talk) 17:19, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia @JohnCurrie: the draft you are referring to Draft:HIP (Honouring Indigenous Peoples) needs more references to independent sources that cover the organization in some detail. Some of your current references seem to mention activity that, while it might involve HIP, do not mention the organization by name. Gab4gab (talk) 17:53, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

An Issue

Hello, me again. I recently looked at the most reccent edit on one of the pages of my watch-list,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrgophorus_coronatus. I noticed something disconcerting. Somebody, for no apparent reason, has deleted a reference [which refered to a published article] without explanation. No explanation. Certainly, the most irksome factor is that, given the user-name of the editor, and the name of one of the writers of that article, the editor may not have deleted it due to lack of quality or relevance, but out of personal interest. I am at a loss as to what to do. Should I revert, or should leave it alone? Which is why I ask for help in resolving this (perceived) issue. AWearerOfScarves (talk) 20:37, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi AWearerOfScarves it was deleted from the References section as it was a duplication of an existing inline footnote reference, thus it's still there. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:48, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Oh. Sorry for wasting your time.AWearerOfScarves (talk) 18:53, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Help creating a page for an Actor...

Hi everyone, I'm not sure how to go about creating a wikipedia page for an actor who has been in a few world wide released movies. Can someone help? I'm not sure why it's not on here already... (talk) 19:57, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. As you are editing under your IP address, you will not be able to directly create an article. I believe that even if you registered a username it would take time for you to be able to create one on your own.(other users, please clarify) You will be able to use Articles for Creation(click those words to access) to create one, but I would give you fair warning that successfully creating a new Wikipedia article is probably the hardest thing to do here. New users who dive right into article creation often end up disappointed and with hurt feelings. I would suggest starting small by editing existing articles to get a feel for how Wikipedia works and what goes into articles before attempting to create one You should also read Your First Article, which describes the process, and use The Wikipedia Adventure, a tutorial structured like a game.

Even if an actor appears in widely released films, it doesn't automatically mean that they merit an article here(though it's possible). The actor will need to meet the criteria listed at WP:NACTOR, the notability guidelines for actors. If you have independent reliable sources that show that, the person likely would merit an article. 331dot (talk) 20:03, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for replying. Is there anyway that people that already are active users to be able to create the page? The actor seems to meet the criteria for WP:NACTOR. I just don't know how to go about starting as it's all very confusing... Please help. Thanks Charliejiujitsu (talk) 20:08, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

@Charliejiujitsu: You could post to the appropriate section of Requested Articles, but it is so backlogged to the point it is almost useless. You could ask at the WikiProject for Films to see if someone there was willing to write such an page. 331dot (talk) 20:34, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Delete a page

Hi There, I was hoping to delete a page that i tried to submit multiple times and it will not be accepted. Are you able to assist?

Chloesnyder (talk) 20:52, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Chloesnyder, if you are the only substantial contributor to the page, you can add {{db-author}} (complete with the curly brackets) to it, and it will gracefully disappear within a few hours. In the case of Draft:Jared Paul, where there's been a certain amount of input from other editors, it's just possible that your request will be declined; if so, please come back here and say so – more advice will follow. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:10, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

References

Hello!I have created a draft for an article, but my submission was declined and now I'm trying to improve it with the suggestions of the revisor. About this I'm wondering if the references only in Portuguese are something that could forbid athe approval or if I translate the titles of them could enable this, does somebody here can help me, please? The original article, wich was accepted, is in portuguese at brazilian wikipedia and I did it with the same text and references, so maybe it could just a question of translation, but I'm also working on updating the content of both pages! I'm just not sure about what i must change and how do it, because the wikipedia in english is a little different and I would apreciate if you have any tips for me. Thank you very much for the invitation to this space and for your attention, ok?

Anna Maria Amorim (talk) 21:05, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

@Anna Maria Amorim: Hello and welcome. I can say that references do not need to be in English, as long as they are verifiable and reliable. 331dot (talk) 21:45, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Translation of titles

Sorry, I forgot a question: is it usual to translate titles of artistic works and exhibitions? Thank you again!

Anna Maria Amorim (talk) 21:45, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Anna Maria Amorim. It depends entirely on how the work is best known in English; or on what the sources say if it is not widely known. See WP:MOSTITLE#Translations. --ColinFine (talk) 21:57, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Just wondering why my article got deleted?

Hi, can you tell me why my biography got deleted? Just wanted to know what part of the biography I needed to change? Thank you!Erikrbrown (talk) 21:37, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

@Erikrbrown: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I can't see it, but I assume you are discussing the content you posted to your user page which is now deleted. Your user page is only meant for posting content within the context of your Wikipedia editing, and it is not article space. Please see userpage policy for information about what is acceptable userpage content. It seems that the page was deleted because the content you had written did not seem relevant to Wikipedia. If you were attempting to write an article about yourself, you should know that writing an autobiography is highly discouraged per the autobiography policy(WP:AUTO). Wikipedia is not social media for users to write about themselves; this is an encyclopedia. If you have reviewed the notability criteria (WP:BIO) and truly feel that you merit an encyclopedic article, there are ways to see one written, but you should not do it yourself. 331dot (talk) 21:43, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

You had an answer, which you deleted in this edit to your user talk page. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:46, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello Erikrbrown. As an administrator, I can view the deleted page. The purpose of your user page is to describe your activities as a Wikipedia editor. Your deleted user page was written to promote your real estate career, your recent book and your local TV show. That isn't allowed. If you want to learn what is required to write an acceptable encyclopedia article, then please read and study Your first article. Thank you. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:04, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Editing Help!

Hello! Can I undo the misspelling edits? Pl98 ^{(Talk to me)} 05:50, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

If you are referring to the spelling error which you introduced in this edit, another editor has already reverted your change. --David Biddulph (talk) 05:54, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

CSD Log

Hi there, I hope everybody is doing great! May I know if there is anywhere I could see my CSD Log (there is a tool for AFD Log, so I wonder if there is one for CSD Log as well)? Thanks a lot! Adityavagarwal (talk) 06:13, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

If you use Twinkle it can generate a CSD log. It is controllable through Wikipedia:Twinkle/Preferences. --David Biddulph (talk) 06:19, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

David Biddulph Yep, gotcha! Thanks a lot. I still remember that you were the same person who told me what minor edit was, long ago! :D Adityavagarwal (talk) 06:43, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

@Adityavagarwal: There is also Special:Log/pagetriage-deletion, e.g. [1], but it only shows cases where you used Page Curation. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:44, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

PrimeHunter Thanks a ton for your help! :) Adityavagarwal (talk) 11:47, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

@Adityavagarwal: As an administrator I can see your edits to deleted pages. You only have 36 so I could quickly make a list of deleted pages nominated by you if you want. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:59, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, surely it would help. I am planning to contribute more on CSDs, AFDs, PRODs, etc, so the list might be helpful! Also, thanks a ton for all the trouble. Adityavagarwal (talk) 12:01, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

PrimeHunter Pinging. Adityavagarwal (talk) 12:12, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

@Adityavagarwal: You nominated these deleted pages for deletion: Behrang Namdari, Family Center for Recovery, IdriX, Moya Woodside, Template:Did you know nominations/forrest's pika, Template:Did you know nominations/alpine pika, Antonios Karatzis, Miltiadis karatzis. If you want to know about pages which were not deleted then you have to go through your visible contributions, e.g. using a Ctrl+F browser search on edit summaries. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:27, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, PrimeHunter! So, would it be appropriate if I manually add these article to my CSD Log page? It would be better to have all my CSDs at one place I guess. Yeah, knowing about the pages not deleted might be really helpful to prevent any such mistake in the future. Could you say any keyword which might result in the showing of non-deleted pages? (this, this, and this are definitely not the correct keywords, as they do not even show the articles pointed out by you which were deleted) Adityavagarwal (talk) 12:42, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

@Adityavagarwal: I doubt anyone cares but if you edit User:Adityavagarwal/CSD log manually then I suggest adding something like "These entries were added manually to this page because automatic logging by Twinkle was not enabled at the time:". If you place it at the top then I guess it will not interfere with Twinkle edits to the page but I don't know. You could quickly test it. Your linked tool doesn't search deleted edits and the Wikimedia Foundation doesn't want non-administrators to have access to them, even if they cannot see the page text. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:57, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

PrimeHunter Gotcha! I have done the manual updating, and I hope it is fine. Thanks a ton for all your help. Also, have a wonderful rest of the day. :D Adityavagarwal (talk) 13:02, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Why can't I edit my theme anymore?

I chose Minerva theme and begun customising it. I then returned to edit it further but it no longer allows me. I go to preferences > appearance > Custom CSS (next to the theme) and I can see the CSS. It won't let me edit it. Please help. Thanks. 161.12.35.161 (talk) 11:22, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi 161.12.35.161, welcome to the Teahouse. You must be logged in to edit your CSS. You were not logged in when posting here so maybe you were logged out after going to the page but before trying to edit it. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:38, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi PrimeHunter, thanks for the response. I don't know why it's saying I'm not logged in, I definitely am. On both here and the CSS editor. Is there anything else I can do? Colinstewart (talk) 12:06, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

@Colinstewart: You have blanked both User:Colinstewart/minervaneue.css and User:Colinstewart/common.css so I don't know what you mean by "I can see the CSS". If you have an edit tab on User:Colinstewart/minervaneue.css then try clicking it and see if you can click a "<>" icon at the top left of the editor to change between the css/js editor and the wikitext editor, in case your browser has a problem with the former. If you want to restore code from an earlier version then click the "View history" tab first. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:18, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

PrimeHunter Sorry for my ignorance (I know a little HTML/CSS and that's it). I recently reset hence why it is blank (and back to default theme). I have put it back to Minerva, so if you can go to the link you provided and see what I mean. There is no CSS there, of course, but when I click the edit icon to add some, it won't allow me to type in the box. Hope I'm being clear enough. Thanks. Colinstewart (talk) 12:37, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

@Colinstewart: Did you try the "<>" icon at the top left of the editor? I can type in User:Colinstewart/minervaneue.css with both editors (only administrators like me can edit the css and js of other users). PrimeHunter (talk) 12:43, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

PrimeHunter The "<>" icon is only available when my theme is set to default. This means I would have to switch to default, make CSS changes and switch back to Minerva every time. I want to edit while set to Minerva, which I used to be able to do. When in editor (set to Minerva), there is only the language, star and edit page icons. (Edit page doesn't allow me to edit either. The URL changes to /editor but nothing else happens.) Colinstewart (talk) 12:57, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

@Colinstewart: I see the problem now. You can manually add ?action=edit to the url, or you can click "Mobile view" at the bottom of the page and use the mobile version to edit. There is also a trick to view a page in a skin without changing preferences: Manually add ?useskin=vector or &useskin=vector to the url. Here it would give you a working edit link with ?action=edit. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:15, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

PrimeHunter Thank you! That works. It would be great if there was a permanent fix to save from doing this every time, but if not, I'm happy enough. Thanks a lot for your help! Colinstewart (talk) 13:42, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Help with an article

Hi

Can someone please check if William L. Van Deburg meets WP:AUTHOR, he has written on antebellum slavery, on the history of black nationalism, and on contemporary African-American popular culture. He may also be a proffessor.

Dysklyver 11:46, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Dysklyver, This biography of living person was created on 30 April 2007, about 10 years ago and yet not has any source to support its content. The user who created it has not made any contribution after creating this article and i don't hope their return. This article should immediately show sources or face deletion. Don'twasteTime (talk) 12:10, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Dysklyver Don'twasteTime Several sources are listed in the References section, so at worst the article's major issue is the lack of inline footnotes. However, I have found that the subject was the holder of a named chair thus he is clearly notable per WP:PROF. I've added an inline citation to support the named chair claim, so now it has one. Google delivers many hits to book reviews and other information about the subject. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:51, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Ok that's good. Dysklyver 13:59, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Need Help with Francisco Nocete

This article may not meet Wikipedia's guidelines for inclusion in the encyclopedia, specifically the WP:NPROF notability guideline and verifiability policy. The article has been BLP no sources tagged or many years.
The article previously stated [2] the subject was stated as being "chair of prehistory at the University of Huelva. He is one of the most influential Spanish speaking archaeologists." However I can't source this, the chair seems to be occupied by Prof. Dr. José Manuel Jurado Almonte [3] and his profile just says he is a 'professor' [4]. I do not speak Spanish so probably haven't checked everything. He is listed as the author of 21 books on Worldcat [5]. Does this meet NPROF or not? Dysklyver 14:25, 17 October 2017 (UTC)