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Putting contact details on Wikipedia

hi there I am going to create an article about a writer known to me. I suspect he will want to have contact details such as his email address or phone number included in the article. Is this acceptable practice? many thanks Fiona Stocker (talk) 00:34, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

No. Absolutely not (see here for more detail). Bfigura ^(talk) 00:35, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

No. See here: "articles should not include postal addresses, e-mail addresses, telephone numbers, or other contact information for living persons, though links to websites maintained by the subject are generally permitted". And if you are creating an article about someone you know, see the Wikipedia conflict of interest guidelines. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:41, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Before writing the article, you may want to confirm that the person is notable first. Dismas|^(talk) 02:37, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

And both of you should be aware of our positions on conflict of interest and on neutral point of view. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:41, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

advertisment?

What do I do if i've read all the policies for an article that is violating to be an advertisement, and I still don't agree with it and do not understand why it is considered an advertisement when all i did was update the facts. (I did not use any adjectives that may contradict advertising the subject.) Yoonchip (talk) 01:09, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

to add, could I just delete the banner that indicates its an advertisment? or is that a violation too. Yoonchip (talk) 01:12, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Can you link to the article you are talking about? GB fan 01:26, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

The OP is likely referring to LG Display since that has the advertisement tag and it's the last article they've edited. Dismas|^(talk) 02:35, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Other editors have removed most of the advertising content: "Main Products" lists, links to press releases, and the like, which have no place in an article like this. Your edits would lead the reader to suspect that you work for LG Display in some marketing capacity, Yoonchip. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:46, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

thanks everyone!! Yoonchip (talk) 05:04, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Nomination deletion for Al Allen Schwartz 208.185.19.114 (talk) 01:38, 14 November 2013 (UTC) I am confused..I was contacted by NatalieN

Al (Allen) Schwartz (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I would like to respond to NatalieN. I do not want to have my biographaical material deleted I do not know how to respond to requests regarding problems with my information...How do I provide linqs... how do I verify included information...I need somoeone to talk to ...to assist me in making the needed corrections...I do not know how to reach NatalieN. or anyother editor... Can someone help me?

Al Allen Schwartz 208.185.19.114 (talk) 01:38, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

I think you mean User:MelanieN. I'll ask her to respond here. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:46, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Al! Thanks for your note. I was the one who suggested deleting your article, because it does not seem to meet Wikipedia standards for notability. The problem with your article is that it does not currently have significant coverage by independent reliable sources. Things like IMDb and blogs are not considered reliable sources. Ironically, even your own personal statements about your biography are not enough, because they are not independent. When I searched Google News Archive for coverage, I found you mentioned in many news stories, but only mentioned; I could not find significant coverage. But here is what I will do: let's move this conversation to my talk page. (Click on "talk" after my signature.) If you can show me some actual significant coverage from independent reliable sources, I will re-evaluate. If the sources are good enough, I will add them to your article and withdraw my nomination. Meanwhile, you can post your own comments and objections at the discussion about your article, which is here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al (Allen) Schwartz. Good luck! --MelanieN (talk) 02:44, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

By the way, you should log in when you comment. Then we can see your signature instead of just an anonymous number. --MelanieN (talk) 02:46, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Later: some of the people at the discussion are coming up with good sources. I'm pretty sure we will be able to save your article. Talk to me. --MelanieN (talk) 03:17, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Reviews

I've received notifications that a couple of pages I created have been "reviewed", which presumably refers to peer reviews, but clicking on the notification only takes me to the article. So how do I actually see the reviews, in case the have constructive criticism? Yellow Mage (talk) 02:33, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

We don't work that way. All "review" means is that some harmless drudge like myself has taken a look at them and not noticed any totally horrible problems that would prohibit the continued existence of those articles in this Wikipedia. If you're lucky, they may have added some tags suggesting ways in which the articles (not "pages", by the way) could be improved. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:50, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

There is a process where you can request another volunteer editor to come look at your article, see the instructions: WP:PR. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 04:16, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Help needed.

• LG Display (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I want to know if its okay for a certain user to bully someone by deleting and being unreasonable. They may be reasonable, but don't i deserve an explanation? I've clearly asked why the user deleted my edit for being an advertisement because clearly, I did not understand WHY. .............are users allowed to be so rude? This is what the user wrote back to me.

"I deleted materials because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a free webhost for advertisements for your employer. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 04:40, 14 November 2013 (UTC) Just because something is a "fact" does not mean it is appropriate for a encyclopedia article. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 04:42, 14 November 2013 (UTC) If your company wants to list its products on the web, they can build their own damn website, but you have no say over what appears in the Wikipedia article. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 04:51, 14 November 2013 (UTC)"

-- Yoonchip (talk) 04:58, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Is this the edit of TheRedPenOfDoom to which you are referring? I think the 04:51, 14 November 2013 post above needs some clarification as it is not how TRPoD normally replies. -- Jreferee (talk) 05:19, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi @Yoonchip: Let's not throw around the word "bully" as if it were a fact, because all users, including you, have to assume good faith of other users. The frustration you seem to be feeling is one of the reasons why we discourage people who have a close relationship with a subject to edit articles, because they tend to get personally tied-up in the content, and sometimes forget that this is a community project, not a personal project. Of the last few edits I saw from TRPoD, I noticed the removal of WP:PEACOCK phrases such as "one of the world's largest" TRPoD also removed unnecessary detail about the vastness of variety of displays produced by LG Display. "Wide range" might be perceived as subjective phrasing. TRPoD also made the lead a little more succinct. As to the removal of the "Key technology and products" section, it might be best to ask TRPoD what the justification was, but I could see an argument being made for it being an indiscriminate product list, which could be perceived as promotional, particularly if there is no context for understanding why these products are "key". Monitor panel wattage, for example, seems a bit strange to include in an article about a company. Further, information has to be significant and provided from reliable independent sources. See WP:42 Hope that helps. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:21, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

(e/c) Hey Yoonchip. The edits you made did read as quite promotional and more importantly, they were blatant copyright violations of this. Accordingly, I have reverted much deeper to cleanse the article of that problem. The response you received is hostile. I can't speak for TRPoD but we do spend so much time dealing with a never ending tide of advertising, spamming, casual copyvios and the like that people can get a bit raw around the edges. By the way, if you're going to bring up the conduct of a specific user somewhere, you should inform them. I will do so by linking the user's name at the end of this post. @TheRedPenOfDoom:--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:23, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you all for the kind explanation. I now understand why some parts may seem like an advertisment or promotional, like all of you have explained to me, but for some parts im still being confused, and I clearly asked TRPoD for an explanation and the above answer was what I got fromi it. All i needed was a explanation to an edit I made. Thanks. Yoonchip (talk) 05:29, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

BTW, YEs, Thats how TRPoD replied to me, if you want to check, please go ahead and see that Talk page. User:TheRedPenofDoom — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoonchip (talk • contribs) 05:33, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

I dont feel the need to be very kind to someone who asks a question [1] , gets 2 answers [2] [3] and then proceeds to ignore them both [4] . -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 05:48, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

And you should note that the media has been covering the conflict of interest editing at Wikipedia quite a bit lately- LG would probably not be very happy if that media spotlight started shining them. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 05:57, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

is translating a sentence possible in Wiki?

is translating a sentence possible in Wiki? Whether I can find out the language of a particular text? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.62.74.194 (talk) 07:45, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

I am not sure what you mean by "in Wiki". There are thousands of web sites that use Wiki software to allow users to edit their pages, Wikipedia is just one of them. And Wikipedia has many language versions: this page in part of English Wikipedia. No part of Wikipedia does translation. Maybe you could tell us the URL of the sentence you want translated, and someone here could advise you what language it is in. Maproom (talk) 08:13, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Google Translate will detect the source language of most langauges if the language is not known. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:27, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Visual I uploaded is not embedded

I uploaded an image yesterday to Wikipedia Commons. The image is a satellite imagery loop over the Colorado area during the 2013 Colorado Flooding. It can be accessed HERE.

The image is not embedded like a similar visual seen to the right.

any thoughts on why this is happening? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonathanhoffmann225 (talk • contribs) 07:54, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

I observe that the image visible to the right is specified as "File:Typhoon_Haiyan_2013_making_landfall.gif", and is at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Typhoon_Haiyan_2013_making_landfall.gif. But the image you want to use is at https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/Water_Vapor_Systems_Seen_From_GOES-15_and_GOES-13_Satellites%2C_12_September_2013.gif. I don't know how to use an image like that, with no "File:", and more path after "commons". Maybe someone else does? Maproom (talk) 10:14, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

The correct link is Commons:File:Water Vapor Systems Seen From GOES-15 and GOES-13 Satellites, 12 September 2013.gif but that isn't loading for me at the moment. It might be because the file is nearly 10MB. Bencherlite^Talk 11:02, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

See commons:Category:Animated gifs exceeding the 12.5MP limit. The category is added manually so your image isn't currently in it. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:08, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Water Vapor Systems Seen From GOES-15 and GOES-13 Satellites 12 September 2013Reduced

Try uploading it to a different page, but without the comma "," in the page name, such "Water_vapor_systems_animation_over_western_North_America_on_12_September_2013" or, even better, "WaterVaporSystemsAnimationOverWesternNorthAmerica12September2013". -- Jreferee (talk) 13:48, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

That won't help. The problem is the 12.5 MP limit. The image is 1385 × 932 pixels × 23 frames ≈ 30 MP. It should display a single frame but doesn't even do that for some reason. Reduce the resolution and upload again. With 23 frames there should be room for 898 × 604 pixels. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:49, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Oh - MP, not MB. I saw "1,385 × 932 pixels, file size: 9.8 MB, MIME type: image/gif, looped, 23 frames, 6.9 s" and thought 9.8 was less than 12.5. -- Jreferee (talk) 14:56, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

@Jonathanhoffmann225: I chopped the file way down and now it works. I did it on a different location but can upload it to the orginal and then request a deletion of mine or is there a way to merge image files. XFEM Skier (talk) 20:57, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

How to upload images

Hi,

I am trying to upload images but this is a true puzzle!

I do not understand how by writing File:Example.jpg|Caption1 this can help me? I type into the EXAMPLE section the name of the photo but nothing happens when I try and look at the preview. How can one paste an image? or what is the right way to do so? step by step? sorry for being ignorant.

Thanks, Neil Huddyhuddy (talk) 08:43, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

You have uploaded an image Leon_Paweł_Marchlewski.jpg to English Wikipedia. (There may be a copyright problem there. You have claimed the image as your own work; but it is a picture of a Polish document dated 1927, which I assume is not your own work. I know nothing about Polish copyright law, but it may be that for works created after 1922, they remain the copyright of the creator until 70 years after the creator's death.) It might have been better, assuming that there is really no copyright problem, to have uploaded it to Wikimedia Commons instead, so as to allow it to be used in all language versions of Wikipedia, not just English Wikipedia.

You then tried to add the image to Leon Marchlewski, but you got the filename wrong. You edited what you had done, and got the filename right, but you left off the extension ".jpg", so it still didn't work. Then User:Phil_Bridger saw what you had done, and fixed the link so that it worked. The image is now visible in the article.

I hope you won't be disheartened by this. Uploading and using an image for the first time is really difficult, and you got almost all the way there by yourself. You will find it much easier next time – I hope you will use your newly-learned skills! Maproom (talk) 09:24, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

As their edits to Leon Marchlewski were back in February, I suspect the editor may be trying to do something else - especially with the phrase "Paste" an image. Huddyhuddy - where is the image you are trying to use? on your computer, on Wikipedia or on Wikimedia Commons? Arjayay (talk) 09:32, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Picture tutorial explains how to insert pictures into Wikipedia articles using wikitext. -- Jreferee (talk) 13:31, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Jaffa–Jerusalem railway

Reference help requested. I cannot identify the problem. How shoud I proceed? Thanks, Grid1312 (talk) 10:46, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

See WP:REFB. If you put the reference next to what it is being used to cite, the error message will not be valid. For now, I have removed it, but it is still visible if you click "edit". --Mdann52talk to me! 11:13, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Your problem was that you had <ref>...</ref> tags after the {{reflist}} template. The {{reflist}} needs to come after all the <ref>...</ref> tags. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:18, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

The edit in question is this one and the very bottom of the page showed the error in read. Another problem with the edit was that when an editor used cite id="refMerrill" to cite the "The Jaffa and Jerusalem Railway" reference, your "Current Flow" reference piggy backed on to that usage, which was fixed.[5] -- Jreferee (talk) 13:22, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Can I have an opt-in please for the feedback tool for 1 article ?

Here is says "On the English Wikipedia, it was disabled (made OPT-IN) on March 5, 2013, following an RfC.". Please can an administrator apply the feedback tool to abuse only. I think it will be useful in helping decide if the article needs structural changes.--Penbat (talk) 14:03, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Comment 17 by Nemo here notes "AFT is on all pages, first in the toolbox and then with the usual box at the bottom after one click." Per Wikipedia:Article Feedback Tool/Version 5, simply click "Enable feedback" in the column to the left of the article under the "Tools" heading (Tools>Enable feedback) to enable feedback on articles you are working on. I tried it for Eutricha capensis and it brought up a change protection level for "Eutricha capensis" page, with one option being "Article feedback" which shows "Disable for all users" (likely by default). The feedback took generally was turned off for all articles due to abuse. There is Category:Article Feedback Blacklist, but there probably should be a category for articles where the Article Feedback option has been turned so editors can review it for abuse. I don't see anything at Wikipedia:Article Feedback/Help about how to opt-in or what it means. Perhaps Nemo or Nemo bis can explain the opt-in option. -- Jreferee (talk) 14:34, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I switched on feedback on abuse and it just asks did you find what you were looking for and prompts you to enter a comment. What i had in mind was basically just the star rating info for trustworthy, objective, complete, well-written as it used to have before March. --Penbat (talk) 15:17, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

From looking through Wikipedia talk:Article Feedback Tool/Version 5 it seems that the stars were dropped in the change from v4 to v5 of the feedback system and that there was much controversy over the whole thing. DES ^(talk) 16:05, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

It all seems a sham to me. I found the star system in V4 to be useful. It was harmless and innocuous. The controversy seems to be centered on the ability in V5 to enter feedback comments which is pretty much what the talk page does and therefore fairly pointless. BRING BACK VERSION 4.--Penbat (talk) 16:30, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

I have no strong views on the matter myself. Such a change would have to be done by the Wikimedia Foundation developers. They might act if a significant nubmer of editors here asked them to, but they seem convinced that v5 is an improvement over v4. I think that Wikipedia:Article Feedback Tool and its talk page and subpages is probably the place to raise the matter. DES ^(talk) 17:13, 14 November 2013 (UTC);l

serial number or VIN for vehicle prior to 1980

I have been told that Wikipeda has a list of serial numbers or VIN for vehicle prior to 1980. Can you help me find that list??15:12, 14 November 2013 (UTC)~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.209.93.36 (talk)

That sounds like some kind of misunderstanding or urban legend; Wikipedia is not a directory service, and that kind of things is not appropriate content for an encyclopedia. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:59, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

I thought "no way" also, but I think maybe what you heard about was the books at our sister site, Wikibooks, in Category:Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes), and maybe the articles that were deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/VIN Codes. There's one article still here: Porsche VIN numbers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:11, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Allan Sharpe and Fifth Estate Theatre Company

Could someone please review my latest articles. They are both connected. Many thanks, Gomach (talk) 15:50, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

They both look pretty good to me – but I know nothing about drama. I think it would help if, in the list of plays, you italicised the actual names of the plays, so as to distinguish them from the following text. Maproom (talk) 17:48, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks, plays italicised. Gomach (talk) 17:58, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

I have made several comments on the sourcing at Talk:Allan Sharpe DES ^(talk) 18:06, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Biographical articles on wikipedia

Hello, I am relatively new to editing here. 1. I wanted to know if a personality's personal website or blog can act as a reference source for his page on Wikipedia? For example, if his personal website mentions that a person is doing charity, can that be mentioned in his wiki entry? 2. Also, I am concerned that some biography pages have a particular editor (the same user or ip address) who removes any neutral referenced information, and adds only a particular perspective. I doubt that it may be the case of a conflict of interest from the editor, as these accounts work only for maintaining a single page. Msec109 (talk) 15:52, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

What we call "self-published sources", i.e. sites and blogs controlled by the subject, are not generally considered reliable sources, as people naturally tend to want to make themselves look good. As to the other: we hold fairly strict standards for biographies of living persons. The best place to address these matters, at least to start, is on the talk page of the article in question. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:03, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks, will do that. And I was talking in context of this user, ip-address and article. I was sceptic about this user's identity as his/her only contributions have been writing non-neutral and unreferenced stuff about a single personality. Msec109 (talk) 16:43, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

There is a term "SPA", or "Single-Purpose Account", for editors who are here not to help improve Wikipedia but to promote (or sometimes discredit) a single person or organisation. Maproom (talk) 17:31, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Sometimes, personal websites are used for early life biography information (date of birth, mom and dad's name, elementary and high school attended, a childhood interest that has some relevance to their adult notability). All the other information should come from reliable sources (think newspaper articles, books, and magazine articles) that are independent of the topic. The K. D. Singh (politician) article is more of a -- I'm not sure we have a name for it -- a hit piece? than a biography. I'll add a request at WP:BLPN to take a look. -- Jreferee (talk) 03:11, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

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Hi,

I registered an account on wikidata but not with the same user name as on wikipedia (though with the same email--I just wasn't thinking when I made an account). Then I thought I'd link it with the unified login but it's showing linked accounts already and it says my home wiki is ru.wikipedia and that is definitely not right (and if I try to unify I get an invalid password message), though there does seem to be a user with my wikidata name there. Is there any way for me to make it work? If I login on wikipedia then I get en.wikipedia as my home page.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcsmom (talk • contribs) 16:00, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

What is the Wikidata username? Is it OK if Mcsmom becomes your unified name? Unified login requires that the same username is used. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:55, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Mcsmom is fine, the name on wikidata is Elin. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcsmom (talk • contribs) 20:55, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

wikidata:User:Elin has no edits. Accounts are not deleted but you can just abandon the account and use Mcsmom instead. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:18, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

The right to unified login goes to the wiki with the most edits. https://toolserver.org/~quentinv57/sulinfo/Elin shows that is the Russian Wikipedia where the name has 64 edits. If you wanted Elin as unified login then you would have to make more than 64 edits at one wiki, but after that you would also have to request usurpation at all wikis where the username is already registered and you want it. The English Wikipedia is one of them. You already have the unified login for Mcsmom, noone else have registered accounts with that name, and noone can when you have the unified login for it. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:28, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

information about footwear sole

i couldn't find out the information about footwear sole i.e what is P.V.C. or EVA sole? what kind of contain its carry? what is the procedure of making such sole's? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.95.29.70 (talk) 16:46, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:55, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

I believe that the OP is, not without good reason, drawing attention to the paucity of our coverage of this topic at Shoe#Parts. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 00:53, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

EVA - Ethylene-vinyl acetate, P.V.C. Polyvinyl chloride. P.V.C. or EVA sole: Google books search. -- Jreferee (talk) 03:00, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Uploading images while edit

Hi,

I am trying to upload images but this is a true puzzle!

I do not understand how by writing File:Example.jpg|Caption1 this can help me? I type into the EXAMPLE section the name of the photo but nothing happens when I try and look at the preview. How can one paste an image? or what is the right way to do so? step by step? sorry for being ignorant.

Thanks, Neil — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.19.81.58 (talk) 17:00, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

You may wish to read the answers to the identical question asked earlier today, at #How to upload images. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:06, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

It would be easier for us to help you if you would

• Always sign in before you do any editing. Earlier, you signed in as User:Huddyhuddy.
• Sign your postings here, and to talk pages, by writing four tildes "~~~~" at the end of them.

Then we could see what you have been trying to do. Maproom (talk) 17:43, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict)On the off chance that this IP and the previous registered user are the same person, I posted a talk-back message to the user's talk page so that they might learn that they have a response here instead of wherever they might think that they're going to get a response. Dismas|^(talk) 17:45, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

If you are trying to upload images, you need autoconfirmed status to do so, which means you have to:

1. Register an account and
2. Have your account be at least four days old and made 10 edits.

If however you are simply trying to put an image on a page, then type [[File:ImageNameGoesHere.jpg]]. For more complex syntax, you can see WP:FILE or WP:EIS. Darylgolden^(talk) 06:02, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion

Dear editors: I have been working for about 30 minutes so far, following the instructions and trying to nominate a page for deletion. At times I needed three tabs open at once on my browser in order to read the instructions, copy complicated text and edit summaries, substitute the file pathname, etc. I'm only part way through the process - no wonder we have so many pages that should be deleted but haven't been. At any rate, it didn't work, and now I have no idea how to fix the problem, which you can see at the top of the list on the above page. I have two questions: (1) How do I repair what is probably some missing brackets on a page I can't find, and (2) Is there no more streamlined process to get rid of an old sandbox draft? —Anne Delong (talk) 17:49, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

If you turn on Twinkle in your preferences, a handy menu appears at the top of every article that allows you to choose a deletion option. After that, it's just a few clicks and entering a reason for deletion. Dismas|^(talk) 17:52, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

• (edit conflict)Hey, Anne! I think I've fixed it. You're right, the problem was missing brackets, but the missing brackets were on the MfD discussion for the article, not the general MFD page. The thing is that what you do on the general page is transclude the discussion page onto it, so that anything that's on the discussion page gets inserted into the general page. That's why it looked like the missing brackets were on the general page when they were actually on the discussion page. Here's the diff of the fix, for future reference. As for easier ways to do it, Twinkle should take care of all this for you, but other than that, I don't think so. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 17:55, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks. I already have Twinkle; I keep finding out more things that it will do. May I respectfully suggest an addition to the MFD instructions to the effect that there is a less labour intensive process available? I realized that it was a transclusion problem, but couldn't work out how to get to the right page. —Anne Delong (talk) 18:05, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Looking for feedback/advice about Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Bhargav Sri Prakash

Hi, I would greatly appreciate any help or feedback for the article I am creating/editing. I am a nutritionist and health-ed teacher with an interest in education technology/startups/silicon valley innovation etc.

Thanks,

(Chippadum (talk) 17:54, 14 November 2013 (UTC))

I have changed the URL in your question to a wikilink. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:19, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

It comes across as promotional waffle. The references that I followed did nothing to indicate that he is notable. It would help if you removed most of the references, then readers could more easily find the ones that to indicate his notability (if there are any). References like this just make the article look even less convincing. Maproom (talk) 18:43, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

It rteads like a resume or a speaker's entry in a conference program, not an encyclopedia article. Too many primary sources, too many unreliable sources (esp social media) and passing mentions, to many minor events, not enough focus on what the person has done that is significant, and who considered it significant. Maproom had some good suggestions. DES ^(talk) 21:07, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Put your references in Template:Citation. Also, don't just use any website that mentions Bhargav Sri Prakash. Try only using books, magazine article, and newspaper articles for your sourcing. Facebook is not a reliable source. Also, per WP:LEAD, the lead paragraph should be a summary of the body of the article, so you should not need footnoted in the lead paragraph. You also are using wp:original research to write your article. You personally identify him as an inventor then try to prove it by linking to his patents. Just summarize what the source material says and don't worry about describing Bhargav Sri Prakash how you personally think Bhargav Sri Prakash should be described. A biography basically has two sections - early life and career. The article instead highlights "Entrepreneurship" (which is WP:POV) and Public Speaking. He makes his money by owning a company. A reason to highlight his public speaking by placing it as one of two subsections is to use Wikipedia to advertise that Bhargav Sri Prakash is available to speak "at your next event." Bhargav Sri Prakash obviously spent much time in everything he does to become so accomplished. How do you think Bhargav Sri Prakash would feel about the effort that went into learning and complying with Wikipedia's only three core content policies to present Bhargav Sri Prakash to the world through Wikipedia? -- Jreferee (talk) 02:40, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the detailed feedback! I only heard Bhargav Sri Prakash at two different conferences recently and hence do not know any thing about his early life or career. I have used his bio in the conference program at the Bloomberg Conference where he was a speaker and other sources I could find online, which is probably why it reads a lot like a conference program bio! I am however hoping this will be a start to documenting his ongoing contributions to nutrition education, for which I have a lot of passion and expertise. I will make the suggested changes and will circle back for any more suggestions. (Chippadum (talk) 07:21, 15 November 2013 (UTC))

Please note that you MUST NOT add to Wikipeida text which has been published elsewhere, unless it has been released under a free license. Even if it has been released, it is usually best to start with a blank slate for a Wikipedia article. A biographical article ought to describe in neutral, objective terms the life and accomplishments of the subject. It should NOT function as an advertisement for the subject, or for the subject's business, products, or services. "Early life" and "Career" are common divisions, but other patterns are possible. But all the information should be supported by reliable sources, preferably via citations to references. The various cite templates ({{cite web}}, {{cite news}}, {{cite book}}, etc) may be used for this purpose. DES ^(talk) 16:01, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Got it! Thanks again. I have written the article only from a blank slate and my goal is definitely not to create an advertisement. I am only writing original text based on news reported on reliable online by reputable sources such as Bloomberg News, The Hindu, VentureBeat, American City Business Journals etc. I will also try to add references per the cite templates. I would greatly appreciate your continued advice, as well as would really welcome any edits to my draft article itself. Thanks! (Chippadum (talk) 05:57, 16 November 2013 (UTC))

Removing links from footer

I have a link in the footer that links to a page about my organization.

I have removed all other links from the footer by putting a "-" in the contents.

When I try to delete the article that this link goes to, the article is deleted, but the link remains.

I need to remove this link. I've looked every where!

Help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.162.202.3 (talk) 18:07, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

If you tell us which page you are trying to change, then we may be able to help. Your IP's contribution record shows no previous edits other than a rather impolite message on another IP's talk page. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:17, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

I cannot figure out your request. Are you talking about the What links here feature to the deleted article? The use of brackets [[]] to link pages? Is the link in the footer that links to a page about your organization a link to a URL external to Wikipedia or internal to Wikipedia? By putting a "-" in the footer content, are the footers now showing up as dashes instead of citing a source? -- Jreferee (talk) 02:18, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Search for sources used in WP

Hello. I want to find all the citations in WP where "Los Angeles Times" is used as a source. How would I do that? Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 20:10, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

That wouldn't be easy. You could search for the text "Los Angeles Times", but that would find mentions as well as citations, and wouldn't find citations via bare URLs. You could look through the what-links-here on Los Angeles Times, but that would again find wiki-linked mentions and would not find cites that didn't use a wiki-link. and both of those would probably be very large lists. You could also search for their web domain to find bare web links. Pruning each of these long lists to remove mentions that aren't cites and then combining them might give you something close to the result you want. I think it would take many hours of work. What is the purpose of such a request, anyway? DES ^(talk) 20:59, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Glad you asked. The Los Angeles Public Library has been allowing patrons to access its file of Los Angeles Times articles from their home computers—until just about six months ago. Now the LAPL requires patrons to go to a branch library to access the files. I have been in contact with the LAPL to rectify this situation. I have used this service from my home computer to a great extent over the past many years to help in writing Wikipedia articles. I thought that a list—or anyway a sampling—of such references might help persuade the LAPL of the utility and importance of restoring home access. (For them, it is a matter of cost. They have to make a new agreement with Proquest, and it appears that it would be very expensive for the city,) Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 22:35, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

@GeorgeLouis: It certainly is not a complete list, but this search (just as DES suggested) is a start as most of these I would think will be from citations. I don't know if there is any way to 1) make it only show one occurrence per article so you don't get an article with ten links showing up ten times, and 2) whether there is a way to restrict it to the mainspace. Maybe someone else can shed light.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:32, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

this search is the samew but 5000 at a time instead of 500. DES ^(talk) 00:02, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

This Google search may help - [6] Hack (talk) 07:59, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Need a page deteted asap

please help - created page a year ago ... lost password and login - orginal user name "doesnt exist" need to delete b/c brand changed name - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlo%C3%A9_comme_Parris — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lindsaytt (talk • contribs) 21:57, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

We don't need to delete the page just because the brand changed its name. We can move it so it has the new name. You should post the new name at Talk:Chloé comme Parris, preferably with a reference to a source confirming the information. Rojomoke (talk) 22:14, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

The article was created by User:Nancy423. After a Google search I have moved Chloé comme Parris to Beaufille and mentioned the name change with a reference. I also updated the link to the official site. They were foolish enough to let the old domain expire so now it's full of unrelated ads instead of redirecting. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:15, 15 November 2013 (UTC)