Wikipedia:Good article mentorship/Archive 1

Samoht27

I'm looking to help with the backlog of Good Article Nominations. I think that seeking a mentorship would be a good way to learn the ropes of GAN reviewing.

Samoht27 One of the mentors might be better able to help you if you said what subject area you're most interested in. Reviewing an article about an album is a little different than reviewing an athlete's biography, for example. Also don't forget to sign your posts! :) Thebiguglyalien (talk) 18:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

My apologies for not signing my post! I am most interested in elections and politics. The articles i've written have, for the most part, been directed towards this topic. Samoht27 (talk) 18:06, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done Left a message on your talk page. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 02:05, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

48JCL

I really want to make articles that can contribute to Wikipedia. I’m not too experienced, however I would definitely like to start making GAs of biographies or politics. 48JCL (talk • contribs) 02:39, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

48JCL, did you read the mentorship page before submitting this request? Thebiguglyalien (talk) 23:38, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

shit, I meant reviewing. I want to start reviewing stuff and I am currently trying to review this article so yeah. 48JCL (talk • contribs) 23:56, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

had a brain fart while writing. 48JCL (talk • contribs) 23:56, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, no worries lol. I've got a lot on my plate right now, but presumably one of the other reviewers should come along shortly. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 00:10, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

 Done left a note on your talk. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:00, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I passed the article. 48JCLTALK 22:49, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Tesseractic

I am interested in the GAN/FAC process, and I feel that reviewing will help make me more confident in my future work as a GA editor. Italian music is my major area of interest, with science (chemistry) and video games coming close after. > Tesseractic: talk? ✎ 22:47, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

 Done - see your talk page! ~Adam ^{(talk · contribs)} 22:41, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

The Sharpest Lives

Hey, I'm Sam. I am currently reviewing the article Where the Angels Fall here: Talk:Where the Angels Fall/GA1. I was wondering- am I doing this right? Any pointers/tips/criticism on my review so far? Anything helps! Thanks. The Sharpest Lives (the deadliest to lead) 20:40, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

 Done peep your talk page. PSA 🏕️🪐 (please make some noise...) 03:37, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Wuju Daisuki

Hello, I'm planning to make a review for Super Shy, which is currently a GA nominee. I've read through all the stuff I need to and I have all my points lined up, but I'm just not sure how I... do it. Like, organize my bulletpoints and stuff. It'll be my first time reviewing an article, and I'm worried if I just go into it I'll trip on my feet, so I'm requesting a mentor. Wuju Daisuki (talk) 01:09, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Finished the review (the nominator hasn't replied yet). Tell me if I did anything wrong. Wuju Daisuki (talk) 23:17, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi Wuju Daisuki, as for formatting it looks great at just a glance! It's late at night here but in the morning I can look again, just to see if there are any procedural/criteria missteps. If you end up being unsure of the review or whether the issues have been addressed you can also tag the article for a second opinion as well! ~Adam ^{(talk · contribs)} 03:03, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

SupremeLordBagel

Hello. I've been reviewing Minecraft – Volume Alpha (see here), and I'd love some feedback to see if I'm on the right track. Thank you! SupremeLordBagel (talk to me) 10:58, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

SupremeLordBagel, I'm sorry no one got back to you while you were working on the review. I've looked it over, and I don't see any issues. It looks like you did everything you needed to. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 17:39, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

SunriseInBrooklyn

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I'm looking to help with the backlog of Good Article and Featured Article Nominations. I think that seeking a mentorship would be a good way to learn the ropes of GAN reviewing. Music related, and Television related. Let start with reviewing Law & Order: Special Victims Unit and Angel in Disguise (Brandy song)

Sunrise In Brooklyn ✉ 05:35, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

SunriseInBrooklyn, I'm glad you're ready to help with the backlog! You might have some trouble reviewing those articles though, because they're not actually in the backlog. No one is nominating them as good articles. The articles waiting for reviewers are listed at Wikipedia:Good article nominations. If you'd like help finding nominations suitably for a first-time reviewer, I can look through and message you on your talk page. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 17:37, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Just put Angel in Disguise (Brandy song) on nomination and another article on currently review, Battle Angel Alita: Mars Chronicle. Sunrise In Brooklyn ✉ 18:29, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi SunriseInBrooklyn, may I ask what you understood this process to be?. This page is for users who want help reviewing GA nominations to ask, but you have only posted your own nominations, which you are not allowed to review (and one of which is currently, already being reviewed). I first thought you understood this because of your first post, but now I realize that you copied that from someone else's request. In the future, please don't copy and paste other people's posts as your own. ~Adam ^{(talk · contribs)} 14:01, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Copy?! There's no evidence of that. Sunrise In Brooklyn ✉ 16:16, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

You're implying that you did not copy this post? Forgive me if I'm off-base asking this but is English your first language? ~Adam ^{(talk · contribs)} 16:36, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

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Apollogetticax

I am an autoconfirmed user with around 500 edits and 200 mainspace edits. I have never reviewed an article, and I would like to learn how to. Could someone please be my mentor? Apollogetticax|^talk 07:10, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello Apollogetticax, it's great to see you're looking forward to reviewing! I notice that most of your edits are antivandalism. If you wanted to, you might consider getting some practice adding content to articles so you know what you should be looking for. But if you have a lot of writing/editing/research experience outside of Wikipedia that can help, then we could look through the articles needing review and find some in your area of interest. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 01:06, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

TheNuggeteer

Hello! My first time here! I'm requesting a reviewer to help me know how to know to review GANs.
I'm asking a mentorship because of my first stint of reviews. (Which did not go very well). All help will be appreciated! TheNuggeteer (talk) 06:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

LeónGonsalvesofGoa

As part of this competition (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:2024_Developing_Countries_WikiContest/Eligible_reviews), I'd like to review this article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tamil_culture/GA1). As this is my first review, would someone be willing to offer me advice as I get started?

LeónGonsalvesofGoa (talk) 03:17, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi LeónGonsalvesofGoa, thanks for signing up for the contest and volunteering to review a Good Article Nominee. You've bitten off quite a big bite with this first one! Tamil culture is an immensely complicated topic, and as a first review it will certainly be a challenge. I am sure that myself and the other GAN Mentors would be happy to help you, but I just wanted to make sure you understand the requirements of the Wikipedia:Good article criteria, and have perhaps looked at some other reviews of similarly complex topics before you dive into this one. Fritzmann (message me) 16:23, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

The topic is of interest to me, so I'm willing to put in the time to do a proper job. I reviewed the six Good Article criteria and recent reviews (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_articles/recent) and had a few questions.

1. 1 To identify plagiarism, do I need to check that all cited content matches the reference?
2. 2 How can I add this template (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Karl_Freiherr_Haus_von_Hausen/GA1)? I think it will help me ensure I don't overlook anything.
3. 3 Can multiple people review an article simultaneously? What if they disagree? LeónGonsalvesofGoa (talk) 17:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

1. Not necessarily. I use Earwig as a first sweep. Then, I usually "spotcheck" several carefully, looking for plagiarism or close paraphrasing. For this article, I would check at least 5-10. If you don't find anything major, it should be fine. If you find no issues, then that is sufficient. If you do find any plagiarism or have other concerns, then doing a larger number of reference checks is probably warranted.
2. See Wikipedia:Good article nominations/templates for a bunch of different ones like that. Pick your favorite one, and then copy/paste into your review.
3. Typically one person reviews a GAN at a time. Reviewers can request second opinions, or mentors can help guide the process. However, the burden of the review largely falls on one person. If someone passes a review, and another editor comes in and disagrees with that pass, it usually airs on the side of not promoting an article. It is a lot less work to re-nominate a failed article than it is to GAR a passed article that does not meet the criteria.

Hope that clears some things up, Fritzmann (message me) 22:28, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Also keep in mind that Earwig can have false positives, so if it warns about a copyright violation, take a look to make sure it's not flagging something that should be the same like names or quotes. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 22:40, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

TheNuggeteer

Hi! My second time asking for a GA membership, (My first request got archived without any answer.) I would like to learn GA reviewing, so that I could help the ever-growing backlog.
Thanks, 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 11:10, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Mgp28

Hello, I am working on my first good article review. I've been through the article a couple of times and made comments at Talk:Horseshoe crab/GA1. I'd be very grateful if someone was available to take a look and give me any pointers about things I've missed or mistakes I've made. Thanks Mgp28 (talk) 17:58, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

On it :). Will reply at the GA review. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 19:07, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

InformedFellow

Hi, I'm brand-new to the editor role of Wikipedia.

I would like to create my first Wikipedia page for content that is named in other pages but does not itself yet exist. It needs to include a "Title" box and a "Part of a Series" box, but am unsure how to get started such that these boxes are included.

Is there a mentor available to perhaps create an initial empty page and boxes which would then allow me to fill in the content?

Let me know, thanks! InformedFellow (talk) 16:42, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia, InformedFellow! This page is for requesting mentorship specifically for reviews of good article nominees, so you may instead want to ask at the Teahouse, where an experienced editor will assist you with your question. You may also be interested in the help pages for infoboxes and navigational templates. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 17:41, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

It is a wonderful world

Hi, I just finished by first GA review at Talk:History of education in Wales before 1701/GA1. Could somebody take a quick look at it to make sure I have done everything correctly and not missed anything?

It is a wonderful world (talk) 11:16, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

I'm replying in the review. First glance, it looks good :). —Femke 🐦 (talk) 16:07, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Sir MemeGod

I want to start getting into GA reviewing, and since my last reviews have all been either quick fails or quick passes, I think I should get a mentor for a longer one. I'm currently working on reviewing Talk:Eunus/GA1, and need some help. Thanks! :) SirMemeGod  12:40, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

@Sir MemeGod, do you still need a mentor? It looks like you've passed this review already. Elias / PSA 🏕️🪐 ^{[please make some noise]} 23:09, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

The Kip

I'm interested in reviewing sports articles, specifically hockey, to help speed up the backlog. That said, to put it bluntly, I don't exactly trust my own critiques/feedback, so I'd greatly appreciate having someone "double" for my first few reviews; i.e. take a look at the review to make sure I haven't missed something, messed up, or been too harsh, among other things. The Kip ^(contribs) 22:06, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Hey The Kip, happy to do a "double", just ping me in when needed. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 22:25, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

@Rollinginhisgrave Appreciate it! The Kip ^(contribs) 00:46, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

LeónGonsalvesofGoa

I completed my first review. Should I wait for the editor to fix the errors before issuing the final assessment?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tamil_culture/GA1

LeónGonsalvesofGoa (talk) 03:10, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi LeónGonsalvesofGoa, do you still need help? I see another editor has jumped in to give more feedback. As a general rule, yes, you should give the editor ample chance to fix the errors unless it's severely bad and needs to be rewritten. One thing I'll note is that you should make sure you're scrutinizing original research and copyright violations. You'll want to look at a few of the sources and make sure that they actually support the content, and that the editor didn't accidentally use the sources incorrectly for things they don't support. It's good practice to list which sources you checked in case anyone needs to go back and look over issues like this. You can also do extra checks for copyright violations at this time, because Earwig can miss things if a few words are changed, even though that's still plagiarism. I know that's a lot, so feel free to ask any follow up questions if you're unsure about anything, or to ask for one more look at your review if you think you've done everything. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 03:37, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice. I identified one reference which may not be appropriate for scientific information and highlighted it in the tabled analysis. I will review a few more to ensure I don't miss anything else that needs to be corrected. LeónGonsalvesofGoa (talk) 02:38, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

@Thebiguglyalien While I was awaiting a response to one of my critiques, another user raised several concerns about the content on the page and requested to take over the review. As I learn more from active participation, I politely declined the offer. I believe the article can be improved through discussion with both the nominator and the other user. How do you recommend I proceed? LeónGonsalvesofGoa (talk) 02:59, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

@LeónGonsalvesofGoa, I haven't read the full review in detail yet so I can't usefully answer your question, but I do want to point out that the MOS issues you've observed aren't problems for GA reviews. You're welcome to point out any suggestions you have, but no nominator is obligated to fix anything except the five issues mentioned in the criteria (lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, lists). -- asilvering (talk) 05:44, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

That's helpful to know about the MOS. The other user has also added tags to the articles to highlight issues that I believe can be resolved through discussion. Please let me know what you think after you've had a chance to review further. LeónGonsalvesofGoa (talk) 04:07, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Resurfacing to see if anyone is available to clarify how to proceed. If I believe the article can be improved through collaboration, what implications does that have for the review I started? LeónGonsalvesofGoa (talk) 02:52, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Ah, I've been in that trap before. I'd advise against complicating things. The simplest way forward is probably to fail the review, citing TrangaBellam's criticisms, then collaborate with the nom to address them and resubmit. -- asilvering (talk) 03:22, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Leafy46

Hello, this was my first review and I decided to come here per WP:GAI to have someone look over it. I quick-failed the article, however I believe that it's justified under the criteria; was I being too harsh? Thanks for your time! The review: Talk:Mixtape/GA1 Leafy46 (talk) 19:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Leafy46, I personally fully concur with that quickfail. I think you did an excellent job of pointing out what needs to be improved, and what didn't meet the GA criteria. Thank you for your good work; I hope we'll see you around doing more GANRs in the future! Fritzmann (message me) 20:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

RFNirmala

I'm going to do a GA review for the first time. May someone mentor me in writing a review?

It's for a 2024 Philippine pop song, so better if a Filipino might review this for familiarity.

Article: Cherry on Top (Bini song); 2024 single by Bini

Article was nominated earlier for GA, but was rejected. Some feedback was followed, some wasn't. I tried providing a response, but I'm not yet confident on doing it right and giving a verdict.

RFNirmala (talk) 09:34, 3 November 2024 (UTC)