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Help me!

Hi I hope I'm doing this right? I'm writing my first wikipedia article, Lilias Armstrong (hopefully I'm not off to too bad a start...) and I'm confused about Template:Cite Journal.

So I was using |pages to let the reader know what pages of a volume the article in question was printed on. So a concrete example, for my first note: I have |pages=127–135, since those are the pages which my source Jones (1948) was printed on in Z. Phonet.

But now I see in the page for Template:Cite_journal:

pages: A range of pages in the source that supports the content.

So since the information I'm citing only is on page 128, I should use |page=128 then, right?

But then the reader doesn't know what pages the article itself spans. Am I missing something? I know it's frustrating if I want to, say, put in an ILL or scan request for an article and I don't know what pages the whole article spans.

Umimmak (talk) 07:02, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

• I believe the trouble is the months need to be English, since the templates are English-sensitive. SwisterTwister talk 21:04, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

@SwisterTwister: That's a separate issue. And it's not because the months are in French but rather because the issue has a range of months instead of a single month (I see a similar error message if I change it to January–March), but my question wasn't about dates; it was about pagination. Umimmak (talk) 21:10, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

It should be |page=128. If the readers can find the page with the relevant information, they'll generally be able to figure out on their own where the article in question starts and ends. Particularly for longer articles, however, finding the relevant information within the article can be a pain.

On an unrelated note, the "date=" parameter accepts ranges, but in English there are no commas if just month and year are given: |date=January–March 1938 works. Note that that's an en-dash, not a hyphen. Huon (talk) 22:22, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

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I've gone ahead and accepted the list...

Go ahead and trim the parent article, and add a link, etc., of course. If there's a push to merge it back that can easily happen, but there's no reason for me to hold you back on trying to make good editorial judgments here. Best of luck! --joe decker^talk 16:37, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Joe Decker :) Umimmak (talk) 16:47, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Citing book reviews

Hi Umimmak. Did you get anywhere with working out how best to cite book reviews in journals, or devise a system that you were happy with? I just went to look if there had been any further suggestions at the Teahouse, but the topic seems to have fizzled out and been archived. Cordless Larry (talk) 16:42, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

@Cordless Larry: even though it's inelegant and not technically right according to various style guides, I'm just doing |title=[Review of such-and-such]. You can see how they look in reviews I've cited here. Umimmak (talk) 16:48, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

quick addendum, I'm still not happy though, since sometimes you get reviews with an actual proper title, which should me mentioned in addition to a description of the work being cited, and this system conflates them. But it's the best I can do now. Umimmak (talk) 16:50, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

I've been trying to think of better places to ask than the Teahouse (it was perhaps a bit specialist for there). Help talk:Citation Style 1 might be a good place (it appears to serve as a central discussion page for citation templates and attracts lots of posts). The folks at Wikipedia:WikiProject Academic Journals might also have views on this. Cordless Larry (talk) 16:56, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

@Cordless Larry: Hrm... well if there's a sufficient demand I suppose someone could request a new template be made. But I also imagine most will say to just use the {{cite journal}} template and just deal with the description of the review being in quotation marks. Thanks for the leads though; those will surely be useful. Umimmak (talk) 21:06, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

They might have experience of how best to use {{cite journal}} for reviews, though, or know some tricks that we don't. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:08, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

@Cordless Larry: well, let's see if this is more useful than the Teabox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Citation_Style_1#Way_to_override_.7Ctitle_requirement.2C_or_to_replace_title_with_a_description.3F Umimmak (talk) 21:53, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

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Bfpage  let's talk...  22:43, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Lilias Armstrong

Hi Umimmak, it appears we got off on the wrong foot over in IRC. To give a bit more context to my statement, I appreciate you doing great work and Lilias Armstrong is an achievement to be proud of. I was trying to convey that although you may "technically" be right in the way you're formatting things, you have to remember, there's no ownership so if people are reverting it, you should let them. Then discuss. If consensus comes to a conclusion, I'd hope you'd respect it. I know I didn't convey that as well as I could of in our conversation, but I do appreciate your contributions. The only way to become a better editor is to follow the advice of those who already made your mistakes. Anywho, I welcome you back with any more questions, either here or in IRC. Drewmutt (^ᴥ^) talk 05:15, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

@Drewmutt: I fully understand I don't "own" the article, and I apologize if the shorthand "my article" for "the article which I've been working on" came across that way. I'm happy when other editors make changes, but instead of just saying what I had is "wrong" and a "mistake", maybe try to see things from my perspective.

The articles I linked to in IRC (Logic Theorist, Chinese room, etc.) had "Citations" as the section name for the shortened footnotes and "References" as the section name for the full bibliographic information. This usage has precedent. The Manual of style (WP:FNNR) also reads: "Title: Editors may use any section title that they choose." and "For a list of full citations or general references: 'References'"

So, from my perspective, it seems like editors are making changes for no reason. And when those changes include naming the section with the full bibliographic information "Further reading", which I don't see precedent for, and which other editors change, you'll forgive me if I want a second opinion on other changes that seem to go against what the MOS says.

I still don't appreciate the sass of calling it my "patented" indenting technique. That's not how you encourage people to ask questions or to stick around. Umimmak (talk) 05:33, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Monnow Bridge

You make a very good point re. the Welsh pronunciation, and looking back at the last Welsh TFA I worked on, Castell Coch, I see we did put the guide in. I'll do it, but I need to be careful to ensure that it's right so I doubt it will be today.

All the best. KJP1 (talk) 18:47, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

@KJP1: or even the word "Monnow" -- the article River Monnow lacks a pronunciation and to me, at least, it isn't clear. I'd guess it's pronounced like mono(nucleosis), something like /ˈmɑnoʊ/ but I realize there are other possibilities. Just something I was curious about, but obviously no rush, and maybe I'm the only one unsure how Monnow is pronounced :p. Umimmak (talk) 19:59, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

My sister-in-law, Welsh speaking almost from birth, tells me the single "f" is a "v", Pont TreVnwy, while the double "ff" is "f", as in Llandaff. Whereas I, despite being educated almost within spitting distance of the bridge, have not a word of Welsh. I just need to get it right in Wikipedia's phonetics. It'll be done shortly. Now the Anglo-pronunciation is a much more contentious issue and the debate over whether Monmouth is "Monmouth", as in "gone", or "Munmouth", as in "bun", is one into which I will not get. KJP1 (talk) 20:23, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

My sister-in-law has now provided a pronunciation guide which I hope meets the need. Regards. KJP1 (talk) 07:40, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

I just made a tiny change since phonetic transcription shouldn't be capitalized; you wanted p and t, there are no IPA characters P or T. Thanks! Umimmak (talk) 08:20, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

No, thank you. Glad we got there. KJP1 (talk) 10:08, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks!

Thanks a lot for correcting few of my edits! Do you think the Natal red rock hare is ready for a GA? I think everything available about the species is covered in the article now. Adityavagarwal (talk) 14:14, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

@Adityavagarwal: I don't really know much about what makes a species article qualify for a Good Article; I just like adding/fixing references. That said I have some minor notes regarding your references. For instance, the Mammals oF Africa source, you just cite the editors of the entire 6 volume book series, but don't note that David C. D. Happold was the author of the chapter "Pronolags crassicaudatus Natal Red Rock-hare". Also David C. D. Happold, in addition to being the author of that chapter, was the sole editor of Rodents, Hares and Rabbits, which is volume 3 of that series. I'm not sure how you want to deal with this since the citation templates don't allow you to easily have both book series editors and book volume editors. But at the very least I think you should specify the volume since pagination resets each volume so consequently there are six page 716s in Mammals of Africa.

Furthermore IUNC requests people cite specific assessments as they would an online journal, not as a website. [1], so that's how I've been citing it, but I suppose there's room for variation. But if you do use the cite-web, I think |dead-url=no would be useful since the main link isn't dead.

Maybe clarify a bit on P. c. bowkeri, that Hoffmann & Smith 2005 consider that to be a a subspecies of P. rupestris instead of just not a valid taxon at all?

But as for the content, I think it looks fine? But like I said I don't have much experience with animal species good articles. Umimmak (talk) 20:16, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

P.S., I just noticed there's no citation for "Its natural enemies are leopard, caracal and Southern African wildcat" -- that might be useful for your application?

Thanks a ton for your help! I have fixed all the points mentioned by you above. Adityavagarwal (talk) 04:03, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Sure, P.S., one of the books you only linked to Google books is freely available from the publisher: https://portals.iucn.org/library/node/6047 Umimmak (talk) 04:54, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Yeah! Is there anything about the link to add on the reference, or you mean the google books reference should be replaced with this one? Adityavagarwal (talk) 04:59, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure if there's a better way. But I'm more confused about using that book to discuss "Smith & Hoffman" (the authors should appear in the other order, I believe), as that book only talks about how Smithers views bowerki as a synonym of rupestris. I dunno, personally I'm just not a fan of second-hand citing, so it might be useful to add a citation to Hoffman & Smith and Duthie & Robinson -- I added them to the page for the genus some time ago. Umimmak (talk) 05:09, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks for creating Basilia fletcheri, Umimmak!

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If possible, kindly add link to this article from another articles (without spamming). Thanks :)

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Autopatrolled granted

Hi Umimmak, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the autopatrolled right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! Alex Shih^Talk 12:57, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

I "thanked you" for the edit, but figured I should thank you in words too! Cheers, appreciate the sign I'm doing an all right job with article creation :) Umimmak (talk) 23:21, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Secondary sources

A more fastidious editor than me would say that you were a bit ahead of the game in updating Spintharus. The problem is that the species list is based on a single journal article – and one that doesn't seem to have been published yet, it's just a preprint online. This isn't in line with WP:RS or WP:PSTS. I'm sure that the World Spider Catalog will accept these species, and when it does, it can be used as the appropriate secondary source.

Authors of taxa should be based on a secondary source, not the primary one in which the name was published. This is because the name might have been found to be already in use, but overlooked by the author(s), or the name might not be accepted by arachnologists for other reasons, or in the case of a species it might have been transferred to another genus. It's fine to give the primary source in addition once there's an acceptable secondary source. Peter coxhead (talk) 21:34, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

@Peter coxhead: thanks for the friendly comment. :) I'm still a bit confused though about what are and aren't acceptable sources. So I now understand one needs a reference to a secondary source for confirmation of a species's existence and its author reference, but can a species description or other scientific papers based on first-hand examination be cited to discuss its characteristics and biology and whatnot? It seems like for the vast majority of taxa, nearly all the information about them is going to be written by people with first-hand experience examining specimens (not necessarily only the author of the original species description), so it would be hard to only use secondary sources.

Thanks for any clarification. :)

P. S. I randomly selected a spider stub you wrote, Aphonopelma madera, and its only source is the original description, and the article was written six days after publication -- a month before the species was added to the WCS. And if you only used the WCS as a secondary source you'd only know its distribution is "USA", not the state of Arizona. ;) I don't mean to tu quoque, but hopefully the "more fastidious editors" you refer to realize everyone starts off not knowing everything.

P. P. S. It might behoove editors to be explicit about this in the WikiProject:Spiders Style Guide. It presently reads: "A reference should always be given for the author citation", but I think I'm not the only one who would have benefited from it explicitly saying that reference shouldn't be the original species description. Just a suggestion :)

—Umimmak (talk) 23:29, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Ok, now you get my personal views. WP:PSTS was written for history, social science, and similar topics by people who work on them. It doesn't really work for science topics and certainly not for organisms, if journal articles are regarded as unacceptable (which, to be fair, isn't what the guidelines say, but are often taken to mean). So you're not the only one who is a bit confused though about what are and aren't acceptable sources – in my view, so is the English Wikipedia.

So a certain amount of pragmatism is needed. What you wrote is, again in my view, correct: one needs a reference to a secondary source for confirmation of a species's existence and its author. After that, again in my view, it's right to use journal articles as sources for details. Even if you use secondary sources, like books covering the species found in a particular country or region, you need to check their original sources, since such secondary sources frequently make mistakes in copying from the original, as I know from experience.

You make a very good point about WP:Spiders advice. The problem is that this project hasn't been active for some years, and in some cases its advice is rather out-of-date. The core of the guidance given to plant editors at Wikipedia:WikiProject Plants/Template#Taxonomic history seems right: "[the] original description does not constitute a reliable source on its own. To complete the [references] requires an authoritative source that says this is the accepted authority." I'll look at the WP:Spiders page. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:31, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

I've now updated the project page: see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spiders#Guidance on referencing authors of taxa. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:25, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Different point: you're quite right about species counts and "extant". It's been the norm all over spider articles, including the lists of species in the families, not to include "extant" when the count comes from the World Spider Catalog, which doesn't include fossils in the main database. I'm as guilty of this omission as everyone else, but will try to remember in future. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:25, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Great, thank you so much for your clarification :) The part where you write you need to check their original sources, since such secondary sources frequently make mistakes in copying from the original, as I know from experience definitely removed any qualms I had -- that's one of the biggest issues I have with only using these "secondary sources" such as databases. I'll make a note to have at least one secondary source for a taxon's existence and proper author citation in the future. Cheers! —Umimmak (talk) 00:11, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

The great strength of the World Spider Catalog is that they list all the taxonomic sources used. Other taxonomic databases don't. Peter coxhead (talk) 06:56, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

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Conquered lorikeet

Hi Umimmak: You recently altered the conquered lorikeet article to indicate that a reference was a dead link — but it isn't; the link works perfectly. Not sure what happened there, but I've removed the tag. MeegsC (talk) 19:55, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Oh strange; it was definitely dead when I checked it before. Thanks for checking it.Umimmak (talk) 20:10, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks, Adityavagarwal! Same to you! :) Umimmak (talk) 01:11, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

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DYK for Bassettia pallida

On 23 November 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bassettia pallida, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the gall wasp Bassettia pallida induces oak trees to form galls, but has its own behavior altered by a chalcid wasp? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bassettia pallida. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Bassettia pallida), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

Congratulations

Congratulations on the featured article. Nice work! --Coemgenus (talk) 17:35, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Coemgenus! And thank you for your advice :) Umimmak (talk) 19:45, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

Pings

Hi, just a note that this ping didn't work: for a mention to trigger a notification, it must be on a new line that ends with a signature, see WP:ECHO. – Uanfala 00:19, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Oh, thanks for the heads up Uanfala! So if I forget to ping someone what is the best way to fix it? Just a new line like

@Uanfala: whoops, I forgot to ping you before! Umimmak (talk) 00:33, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Umimmak (talk) 00:33, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Yep, this should work. Of course, you can always remove that line afterwards if you'd like to. – Uanfala 00:50, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Aha (wasp)

Hello! Your submission of Aha (wasp) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! SounderBruce 19:58, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

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QpQ for Cabaret du Néant

Hi Umimmak. I have done it. Can you please restore the tick mark? Thank you. Dr. K. 18:39, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Cyclocephala nodanotherwon

On 8 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cyclocephala nodanotherwon, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the rhinoceros beetle genus Cyclocephala already had over 200 species when C. nodanotherwon ("not another one") was described in 1992? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cyclocephala nodanotherwon. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Cyclocephala nodanotherwon), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:04, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Megachile chomskyi

FYI - signed off on this one as good to go, with recommendation to use the hook over the ALTs. For the article, I suggest that text be added to the description specifically stating that tongue length more than half body length (for the math impaired who cannot look at the two numbers and figure that out for themselves). And I added common names for C. hartwegii. David notMD (talk) 16:21, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Lilias Armstrong scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that the Lilias Armstrong article has been scheduled as today's featured article for January 4, 2018. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/January 4, 2018, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1100 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:03, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

@Jimfbleak: Thanks! So to clarify I don't need to do anything else now, right? The lead should already be short enough. Umimmak (talk) 00:35, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

No, in fact on the whole we prefer to do the blurbs ourselves, and given how recently this was promoted it's unlikely that the article itself needs any polishing. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:44, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Aha (wasp)

Hello! Your submission of Aha (wasp) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:53, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

@Yoninah: responded there (sorry forgot to ping you in that reply until after I signed) Umimmak (talk) 00:34, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for This (fly)

On 12 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article This (fly), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that This is found in southern Australia, is attracted to decomposing seaweed, and has an unusual mating position? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/This (fly). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, This (fly)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:23, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Congratulations on making the 15,000 views list! BTW I also added the entry to the December statistics list. Yoninah (talk) 13:56, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Yoninah! By any chance did you see my question on the WT:DYKSTATS page? I've had a few hooks go over 5,000 but I'm not sure which is the "right" number since different websites provide different answers, so I've held off on adding them all. Should I just use the Pageviews Analysis instead of the DYKstats tool? Umimmak (talk) 14:03, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Yes, that's the one I use. Yoninah (talk) 15:46, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Methylophaga muralis

On 14 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Methylophaga muralis, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Methylophaga muralis, a species of bacteria, was first discovered on marble in the Moscow Kremlin? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Methylophaga muralis. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Methylophaga muralis), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

	Wish you a Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year 2018!
	A very Happy, Glorious, Prosperous Christmas and New Year! God bless!  — Adityavagarwal (talk) 17:04, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

@Adityavagarwal: Thank you! I hope your holiday season is going well and that you have a great 2018! Umimmak (talk) 00:16, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Megachile chomskyi

On 23 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Megachile chomskyi, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Megachile chomskyi (pictured), a species of bee named after the linguist Noam Chomsky, has a tongue that is more than half the length of its body? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Megachile chomskyi. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Megachile chomskyi), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Ba (gastropod)

On 25 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ba (gastropod), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that you won't find any Ba humbugi on Christmas Island? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ba (gastropod). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ba (gastropod)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 00:03, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Again, thanks for bringing a little more humour to WP. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) ✐  ✉ ^{and Merry Christmas} 23:20, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

@Barbara (WVS): thank you! I'm glad you liked it! Would you believe people on WP:ERRORS (permalink: [2]) found it "meh"? Good to know there are people out there who appreciated it :) Merry Christmas to you as well! Umimmak (talk) 00:26, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

I left a note. Barbara (WVS) ✐  ✉ 12:49, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		The Barnstar of Good Humor is awarded to you, a light-spirited Wikipedians who, by unshakably good humor, consistently and reliably lighten the mood, defuse conflicts, and generally make Wikipedia a better place to be. Don't listent to the meh-sayers. Barbara (WVS) ✐  ✉ 12:38, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Aw, thank you Barbara (WVS)! This definitely brightened my day! (To be honest I had started to become a bit frustrated with my experience, but it really feels nice to know at least some of my efforts have been appreciated :) ) I really appreciate your comment and the barnstar! Umimmak (talk) 13:14, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Aha (wasp)

On 27 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Aha (wasp), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that an entomologist cried "Aha!" when he discovered a new genus of Australian wasp, and that became its name? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Aha (wasp). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Aha (wasp)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:04, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Edit summary

Bit misleading considering how you completely re-factored the sentences! The Rambling Man (talk) 20:37, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

I don't see how it is misleading. I didn't like the version you changed it to; you clearly didn't like the original version. Instead of reverting it to the version you didn't like, I chose to split it up again but in a different way so it wouldn't have whatever issue you thought it had. Umimmak (talk) 21:38, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Cartwrightia

On 1 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cartwrightia, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that an illustration (pictured) of the Cartwrightia scarab Cartwrightia cartwrighti was printed on the invitations for entomologist Oscar Ling Cartwright's retirement party? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Cartwrightia), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Cartwrightia cartwrighti

On 1 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cartwrightia cartwrighti, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that an illustration (pictured) of the Cartwrightia scarab Cartwrightia cartwrighti was printed on the invitations for entomologist Oscar Ling Cartwright's retirement party? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Cartwrightia cartwrighti), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Precious

insects, snails and historic people

Thank you for quality articles such as Lilias Armstrong and Homer Franklin Bassett, for taking us to Christmas with Ba humbugi and into 2018 with Cartwrightia cartwrighti, brightening our days with humour, for a stunningly clear user page, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Aw, thank you Gerda Arendt! I'm honored; seeing this really made my day :) Umimmak (talk) 17:14, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Chanbria

On 5 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Chanbria, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that arachnologists think juvenile Chanbria camel spiders locate their prey through a combination of smelling and feeling for them? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Chanbria. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Chanbria), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Idiogramma elbakyanae

On 7 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Idiogramma elbakyanae, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that when the wasp Idiogramma elbakyanae was named in honor of Sci-Hub founder Alexandra Elbakyan, she took this as an insult? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Idiogramma elbakyanae. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Idiogramma elbakyanae), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 00:02, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Arocatus melanocephalus

On 30 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Arocatus melanocephalus, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the elm seed bug produces an unpleasant smell reminiscent of bitter almonds? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Arocatus melanocephalus. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Arocatus melanocephalus), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:03, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

gopher DYK

Just realized that I was also the reviewer of your chomskyi DYK. Keep at it. You appear to find interesting articles to expand upon. David notMD (talk) 23:07, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Unusual symbols in Passy's 1921 IPA chart

Hello, since you seem interested in the history of phonetics, I would really like you to take a look at what I posted at Talk:History of the International Phonetic Alphabet § Unusual symbols in Passy's 1921 chart. I would really appreciate if you had something to add, or, even better, had access to the second edition of L'Écriture phonétique internationale, but I'm sure you'd find it interesting anyway. Thanks! Nardog (talk) 17:37, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this to my attention -- I just checked, my library doesn't seem to have that volume, but I'll see if I can find anything else about it :) Umimmak (talk) 21:03, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! Nardog (talk) 21:41, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Oriental Basin pocket gopher

On 1 March 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Oriental Basin pocket gopher, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Oriental Basin pocket gopher was designated a species in 1895, demoted to a subspecies of Merriam's pocket gopher in 1968, then restored to species status in 2005? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Oriental Basin pocket gopher. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Oriental Basin pocket gopher), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Seycellesa

On 16 March 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Seycellesa, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the spider genus Seycellesa and the nematode genus Traklosia were both originally named Robertia, but had to be renamed? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Seycellesa), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Traklosia

On 16 March 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Traklosia, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the spider genus Seycellesa and the nematode genus Traklosia were both originally named Robertia, but had to be renamed? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Traklosia), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Vatusila

On 23 March 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Vatusila, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the land snail genus Vatusila was named after a Fijian tribe known for killing and eating the missionary Thomas Baker in 1867? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Vatusila. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Vatusila), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

RfC re sci-hub

I tweaked the question a bit at Talk:Sci-Hub#Website_and_IP_in_infobox_for_Sci-Hub, after you !voted. Am notifying you and the other person who has !voted. 23:08, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Macrobiotus shonaicus

On 16 April 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Macrobiotus shonaicus, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Macrobiotus shonaicus, a Japanese water bear, was first found in the parking lot of the apartment building where one of the researchers lived? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Macrobiotus shonaicus. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Macrobiotus shonaicus), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Trogus (wasp)

On 22 April 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Trogus (wasp), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that parasitoid wasps in the genus Trogus emerge (pictured) through the side of swallowtail pupae after using liquid to soften the hard casing? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Trogus (wasp). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Trogus (wasp)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:06, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Trogus (wasp)

If you're not already doing so, I suggest you activate context-sensitive highlighting in your profile. In addition to numerous red-links, the rest of the article is a bloody mess. Reverting my edit with the glib excuse of WP:NOTBROKEN is simply an expression of laziness. — Quicksilver (Hydrargyrum)^{T @} 01:38, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

• @Hydrargyrum: Edit summaries can be terse so long as they explain the reasoning for the edit; WP:NOTBROKEN explains why pipe-links should not be used to "fix" redirects as per your edit. Red links are fine when they are for topics that are notable and warrant inclusion, as is the case for genera and species. If you think the article is "a bloody mess", you're welcome to use the article's talk page to provide specific suggestions or edit the article in ways which align with standard Wikipedia editing guidelines. It is unproductive to go to a user's talk page and uncharitably accuse them of making "glib excuses", writing "a bloody mess", or making "an expression of laziness" simply because you disagree with a revision of an edit. Umimmak (talk) 01:56, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Brachyanax

On 29 April 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Brachyanax, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the binomen of the type species of the bee fly genus Brachyanax can be translated as "little chief nipple twister"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Brachyanax. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Brachyanax), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:20, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for China (insect)

On 1 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article China (insect), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that China can also be found outside China? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/China (insect). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, China (insect)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Afropolonia

On 2 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Afropolonia, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the species description for the mite Afropolonia tgifi was likely only approved because the journal's editors were unfamiliar with the expression "TGIF" ("Thank God It's Friday")? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Afropolonia. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Afropolonia), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Dyk nomination Leucospermum cuneiforme

Hello, I'm unsure what you want to know or what you would want me to do. I did not nominate and merely extended the page. I didn't source the hook either. There is no photography that shows what the hook is stating anywhere on the internet, plenty of flower heads but no seed heads of this species. The source I added, anticipating your remark has the same information as the description from the revision that was cited earlier, but the words are not the same. It suggests an other author has had a look at the plant and basically arrived at the same characters for the plant. I did not respond since I interpreted Casliber's comments as that it was bad behaviour to interfere as an "expert" in an Dyk nomination. I hope this is any help. Dwergenpaartje (talk) 20:11, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Dwergenpaartje well in theory you don't need to do anything as it's not your hook -- it just concerns an article you worked on. The words shouldn't be the same -- when you write an article the words should be your own, but if the information is in both that's all right. I'm a bit worried that you seem to imply some other editor did WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH, basing the description off the plant directly..., but at least there are now citations. Honestly at this point I guess I'll go approve it; I was just waiting for the nominator to add a hook alternative specifying it was Afrikaans and suggesting a better picture. Umimmak (talk) 21:03, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Citations

I removed 2 of your 3 citations, as one citation was not a WP:RS and the text was not supported by the other. UW Dawgs (talk) 18:36, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

UW Dawgs Which do you think was not a reliable source and which do you think did not support the text? I don't see why them. or the HuffPost UK″s entertainment section are unreliable when discussing a word associated with television show, and both also used the word, with the them. article also mentioning the word. I'm not sure how those two differ from the Popbuzz article. Umimmak (talk) 18:57, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Aquaria- Biographies of living persons

Hi Umimmak. In response to your edit summary, how about we add references instead of deleting content, WP:BLP requires that poorly sourced and unsourced contentious material be removed.

Thanks for finding the video and identifying the quote and timestamp. I changed the timestamp to the very beginning, realizing that timestamps can be imprecise and that 9:08 may be the beginning for a different hardware/software combination. I'm unaware of discussions or general consensus on how to address timestamp variation, but expect there may be some if this is a common problem.

As for including Fashion Institute of Technology in the infobox, I think it's a stretch to say that two semesters at the school is relevant to Aquaria's notability strongly enough to include. Perhaps in the article body.

Quickly looking over the article, the mentions of non-notable persons in the article may be problematic as well. --Ronz (talk) 23:08, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Pose TV Show

I noticed you removed two links from See Also, you noted that links should not be repeated if they appear in article body or the navigation boxes. I did not see a link to either Paris is Burning or My House in the body or the navigation boxes. Could you let me know where they are so I can be sure to edit wiki pages correctly? Thanks CircuitousLogic (talk) 10:29, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

@CircuitousLogic: They're both in the Ball culture navigation box, in the "Film and television" section. I agree that they're both probably important enough to write out in the article itself though -- Paris Is Burning somewhere in Production > Development, and My House maybe in critical reception? A lot of reviews have made connections to the two as they aired at the same time (e.g., [3], [4], etc.) Umimmak (talk) 10:33, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Plato (spider)

On 28 July 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Plato (spider), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that spiders in the genus Plato have cubical egg sacs? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Plato (spider). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Plato (spider)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 28 July 2018 (UTC)